1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Philly Show. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez dazzled again on Tuesday night, seven scoreless sittings, 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 3: but has starting pitching inched a little bit closer to 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: the top on your August third trade deadline priority list. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: Ruben Lamarrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky It's the 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: Philly Show. It's time for first Pitch. First Pitch is 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: powered by Monster Energy. So, guys, Christopher Sanchez great again 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: on Tuesday Night. He'll find out on Saturday that he 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: has made the National League All Star Team. But Monday 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: night eron NOLA, another really rough one. And we talked. 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: We spent last Wednesday talking about the trade deadline lot 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: kind of what we all thought. And I think Rubin 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: you were like, you want that bullpen arm. Jim, where 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: were you on that? 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: Well, I want a bullpen arm, I want a bat 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: And I think the rotation is something they need to 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: address as well. 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a big wants all over the above. 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: You want the above. 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: You know there's a big drop off after three and 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: if you don't address it, you're not getting enough innings 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: out of four and five. You're gonna your bullpen is 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: gonna become even a bigger weakness because you're gonna wear 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: their asses out. 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: Well, that's and that's my question is does watching Aaron 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: Nola pitch on Monday, Jim Ruben, does that do you 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: feel more strongly about that, Jim than you did last 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: week when you made your position. 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: I've been concerned about the four and five spot all along. 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: I've been concerned about Nola all along. It's hard to see. 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: We talked about it two weeks ago. Guy's been an 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: unbelievable Philly, a great Philly. He's gonna be on the 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: Wall of Fame. He's been a workhorse. He threw a 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of pitches, a lot of innings 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: for bad teams, threw a lot of pitches and a 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: lot of innings for good teams. But from the start 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: of seventeen through the end of twenty four led to 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: majors and innings pitched by a wide margin. And I 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 4: just think it's all kind of catching up with them. 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: Every baseball player, every pro athlete, has that kind of 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: career cycle or a life cycle, and I'm afraid it's 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: we're seeing decline right in front of our arm. 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: It's tough to see. 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: Solution for me is you piggyback them with Alan rang 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: Hall and you try to get three four out of 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: them on a given night because the stuff was good early. 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: So you piggyback him and go out and get a 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: number five starter or swing man would be ideal, somebody 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: who could help in the bullpen here and there, maybe 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: in October. 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 5: But I think it needs to be addressed. 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 6: Yes, what about did O Jim Almost right on point, 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 6: and that's why Jim should have been one of my 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 6: area scouts. 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: But the reality of it is this, it's all about. 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 6: Pitching all the time. You see Tray Turner starting to 58 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 6: turn it around. That's the right handed bat they need, 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 6: and he's the guy that actually has to play and 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 6: have to have success for this team to go anyway, 61 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 6: because he's sort of irreplaceable. They've you know, they've committed 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 6: a whole lot of money, a whole. 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: Lot of time to the guy. 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 6: They have to expect that he becomes Trey Turner again, 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 6: and it looks like he's becoming more athletic. I thought 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 6: a lot about what he has After one of one 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: of the games he had on the road, he just 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 6: talked about just being athletic at being himself and not 69 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 6: thinking so much. I think that's exactly what he needs 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 6: to do, and you start to see him doing that 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 6: a little bit more, a little bit more lately. On 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 6: the Aaron Nola thing, I just feel very concerned about 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 6: the fact that he just he really literally runs out 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 6: of gas after three or four innings and that's you know. 75 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 6: And and to me, he was super sharp in the 76 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 6: early part of the game. He looked exactly like Aaron 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: Nola should look. I just don't think he can sustain 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 6: it for five or six innings. And so, yes, Jim 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 6: I totally agrees. He becomes sort of a piggyback guy. 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 6: He also becomes massively, massively affected by the ABS system. 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 6: ABS system becomes something that really affects him. It's not 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 6: an excuse, it's just a reality that he's the guy 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 6: who lives on the edges. He doesn't get the pitches 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 6: he has. He has the reputation if you're an umpire, 85 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 6: he has the reputation to get pitches on corners that 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 6: that other pictures may not. He's been around a long time. 87 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 6: He never pitches and complains about stuff. He's got a 88 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 6: good rapport with the umpires. He's around the edges a lot. 89 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 6: He gets some of those pitches and it changes very often. 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: It changes his ability to be successful. And I think 91 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 6: the two things, the pitch clock and the ABS system, 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 6: of all the pitchers in the Philly staff and maybe 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 6: in a lot of staffs in baseball, Aaron Nola has 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 6: probably been affected. 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 5: The Yeah, we've. 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: Been watching this for a couple of years now. He's 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: got what a six two yearly the last two seasons 98 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: over thirty four starts, and you know, watch JT. Real 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Muto said something the other day kind of kind of 100 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: reinforced what both of you guys just said, which was, 101 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, kind of what happened, because he got twenty 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: three swings amazing, and that is that says something that 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 3: says like there's something still there. He has an ability 104 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: to get out. But then what JT said was the 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: stuff just diminished quite a bit, and it just kind 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: of after the third or fourth inning, it just it 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: just it just went away. And so Jim that that 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: piggyback idea makes a lot of sense. I was looking 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: at this up. I don't know if this makes any 110 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: sense to you guys, but this is percent of pitches 111 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: that Aaron Nola has thrown season by season in the 112 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: sixth inning or later. This season, only four point eight 113 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: percent of all of his pitches have come out six 114 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: inning or later. Now, from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four, 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: you can see those numbers there. When he led Major 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: League Baseball and innings pitch by like one hundred innings 117 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: over everybody else, over twenty percent of all of his 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: pitches came in the sixth inning and later. So that 119 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: is a significant drop off. This is a guy who 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: for years was a ridiculous reliable workhorse, and now he 121 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: just cannot get that deep into games. And what you're 122 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: seeing there is it's you know, you're seeing the trickle 123 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: effect in those four and five spots. You're seeing Nola 124 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: get out early. Then you're seeing them use an opener 125 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: for Ron. Hell, if you can get him through five, great, 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: But now you're using all of your bullpen guys twice 127 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: a week four or five innings, and then you run 128 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: in a situation like Monday night where they're down or 129 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: run and you're like, do we use Bowland? Yeah, do 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: we use one of our plus guys? Do we use 131 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: He was a minus guy like Chase Sugart and Don 132 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: Mangley said, like, I was kind of in a tough spot. 133 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: I had to use somebody in it, and we can't 134 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: keep chasing wins all the time. And maybe if they 135 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: had some guys pitching deeper into games, those guys are 136 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: a little bit better rested. Maybe down a run, maybe 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: use another up more of one of your more plus 138 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: relievers so that you guys know it's it's that trickle 139 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: in the night starting pitch. 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: And it hurt him that they only got five from 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: Loizardo on Sunday in New York. But Ruby, you're so 142 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: right about the abs. I'm watching Monday Night's game. Early 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: in that game, he threw a front hip sinker to 144 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: a left handed batter. It was a gorgeous pitch. He 145 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: didn't get it. Like the same inning, he throws a 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: spike curve just off the plate to a right hand 147 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: or maybe on the block. 148 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: Didn't get it. 149 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: And I'm like, he gets those pitches earlier in his career. 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: We had John Smoltz on last year, and John Smoltz 151 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: drew a comparison style of pitching, not the same guy, 152 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: but style of pitching to Greg Maddox and he's you know, 153 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: the combination of workload age catching up up with him 154 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 4: and the abs because when he has to when he doesn't, 155 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: when he falls behind, and now he has to come 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: over the plate and that's when he gets killed because 157 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: he has stuff to get it by people. It's tough 158 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: to see. 159 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, he teases a guy that cannot make mistakes. He 160 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 6: makes mistakes in the middle of the plate and he 161 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 6: gets nailed for home runs. 162 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. 163 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about so Phillies only have so many 164 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: resources to trade guys. I mean, this is a tough 165 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: spot for the Phillies front office because you got to 166 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: figure out what you want to get. I don't know 167 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: if they could get all three. I don't know what 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: the quality will be if they address I've got one. 169 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: I've got one big one. I got one huge one. 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: But go ahead, we'll go for it. 171 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 6: Talk about it, and I'm gonna go bold Man. Go 172 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 6: get Ranger Suarez. Go get Ranger Suarez from the Boston 173 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 6: Red Sox. I guarantee he'll come back. I don't know 174 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 6: if he's has any no trade stuff on there, but 175 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 6: go get him. 176 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: Come here, Just get him, come here. Go get Ranger 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: Suarez problems solve that though. It would take Andrew Paynter 178 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: Andrew Painter, okay, and I would do it. 179 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 5: I probably would do it too. 180 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Wow, I would do Andrew Paynter for Rainger Suarez. Absolutely, 181 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: I would do it. 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he's had a very nice year with the 183 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: Red Sox. I was looking at his numbers the other day. 184 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: He's being I would do it. 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 6: He solves so many issues if you want to put 186 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 6: him or Lozardo in a bullpen, if you don't need 187 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 6: that four starter in the playoffs either way, right there and. 188 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: All those guys are signed, it gives you that depth 189 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: that you need. 190 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 6: I don't know if they have the money to do it, 191 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 6: but if they do, that's the move. 192 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 5: Do you think if you would would paint to be enough? 193 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 6: If he's got a big he's got a big contract, 194 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 6: and some people would say it's a good contract, but 195 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 6: it's a big contract. I don't know, who knows. Maybe 196 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 6: we'll see. I wonder if he's kicking the tires. 197 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 5: Ooh, you sound like you got a little intel. 198 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 6: Oh no, I have no, I don't have any I'm 199 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 6: just I'm literally I'm literally just throwing spaghetti against the 200 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 6: wall here and hoping it sticks. 201 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: It's good spaghetti. Because this is a year like no other. 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: You got an aging team that's just you know, the 203 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 4: odometer is turning. You don't know what the hell next 204 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: year is going to look like. 205 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: You gotta win now. 206 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: I almost would do that trade just for the now 207 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: and worry about all the rest down the road. 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 6: Well, then, and then they create some pitching depth. I mean, 209 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 6: they still have depth. They're aging arms, but they're still 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 6: effective arms. 211 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: And I don't. 212 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 6: Mind having Lizardo, Wheeler, Ranger, and Christopher Sanchez in my 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 6: rotation for the next several years, or at least in 214 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 6: the next one year, and then we'll see what happens 215 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 6: with Wheeler. 216 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: Well, why not make it a freaking blockbuster and bring 217 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 5: Chapman too? 218 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: Why not? 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Rentals that are 266 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: available if the Phillies want to go on the cheaper side, 267 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: the theoretically cheaper side. Zach Gallon, Casey Miz Robbie, Ray, 268 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: Freddy Peralta Sunny Gray is kind of a rental. There's 269 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: a He's got a twenty twenty seven mutual option with 270 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: the Red Sox. But he's also making thirty million dollars 271 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: this year. There's a payroll consideration there. Brady Singer, any 272 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: of those guys float your boat. 273 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 6: I get a little flow from Sonny Gray, and I 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 6: get some flow from Zach Gallon, believe it or not, 275 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 6: even though he's not having a great year, He's been 276 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 6: there and done it. Robbie Ray excites me a little 277 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 6: bit too. But Sonny Gray, I would go, would be 278 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 6: the top of the list there for me. But he's 279 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 6: going to take a lot. 280 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've got to spread out some of your 281 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: resources other needs. What about those any one of those 282 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: guys would kind of fit what you're looking for. What 283 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: about like that Kansas City team they're going to see 284 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: this weekend. 285 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: They have a couple of guys like Walk had had 286 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 5: a long. 287 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: Reliable it seems like a reliable career. I wonder about him. 288 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: You know, Brady Singer has always had upside. I don't 289 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: think the price would be that steep on him. 290 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 5: You never know, but you gotta do something out there. 291 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: Try to think who else? 292 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: What about that kid from Ryan from Minnesota? Is that kid. 293 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 6: That's going to cost It's gonna cost a lot, But 294 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: you know, that's an Andrew Paynter type of a deal, 295 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 6: and would you do that. 296 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many years if an they have 297 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: on Ryan. 298 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 6: If I have a couple of years on control on him, 299 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 6: I would absolutely consider him. 300 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: Joe Ryan is signed through twenty twenty seven. I did 301 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: have that prepared as well, but it's not I can't 302 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: find it. But here's some controllable starting pictures. I'll just 303 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: read you the list. You know, Sandy al contract club 304 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: option through twenty twenty seven. Jimmy mentioned Seth Lugo through 305 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. Waka is signed through twenty twenty seven 306 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: with a club option for twenty twenty eight. Joe Ryan 307 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: I mentioned Red Debt Meers and Jose Soriano with the Angels, 308 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: they're under team control through twenty twenty eight. 309 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: They could be moved. 310 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: We go from trade and Painter for Ranger Suarez. So 311 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: this observation or a question might sound ridiculous, but one 312 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: of the chances that in three weeks. 313 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: Painter come back and be the number five guy. 314 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 6: I mean, he threw once already, right, he went out 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 6: and performed once and just did okay, not great. I 316 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: didn't go and see his stuff I didn't see his mechanics. 317 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 6: I don't know that much about it except that he 318 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 6: did he pitched. Okay, but okay he's not good enough. Okay, 319 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 6: he's not going to be good enough because okay, he 320 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 6: did last year and it did not translate into major 321 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 6: leagues this year. 322 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: This kind of reminds me of way back when when 323 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: you tried to get Cliff Lee back. 324 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: That is correct, Why not. 325 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 6: If it makes you better man, whatever makes you better, bro, 326 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 6: whatever makes you better. 327 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: So you ended up not yeah, that's that, getting Royal. 328 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: He went to Texas. 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, he ended up getting ended up getting Roswalt and 330 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 6: and and and you know, obviously you want to try 331 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: to get if you're going to move a guy like Painter. 332 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 6: I don't know that they even would consider doing that. 333 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 6: But if to move a guy like Painter, you really 334 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 6: want to try to get a guy who you could 335 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 6: have under control at least for a year after twenty 336 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 6: twenty six. 337 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: Sure, I forgot about that. Cliff Lee can't can't do 338 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: the rental. 339 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: You never got close with bringing Cliff Lee back July 340 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: of twenty ten. 341 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: I do not believe. 342 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 6: So. 343 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was fun though. 344 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: Those were fun years. 345 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: Every July. Something big happened was. 346 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: A July July thirty, July twenty ninth. 347 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: July twenty ninth, Oswald cliff Ley the first. 348 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: Time, right, Elda de Jubio. 349 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you guys? When I was smart? That's 350 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 2: when I was smart and the beginning an idiot. 351 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 5: It happens in life, It happens all of us. 352 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: What did you guys think of us? So we've been 353 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: talking about how to fill the rotation at those bottom 354 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: two spots. But would you think of Sanchez on Tuesday night? Oh, 355 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: that's back back to his old self. Little little little 356 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: little scarre of there, a little brief scare at the 357 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: top of the seventh, the thing when he see him 358 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: going like this to the training staff to come out 359 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: to the mound. 360 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 6: But you're just hoping he's not about his elbow or 361 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: his shoulder. I think the cool thing about this guy. 362 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, his numbers at home are just ridiculous. 363 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 6: I think he's got under a nine e r A 364 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 6: at home and eleven starts. He's having a historic season. 365 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 6: After the in the post game, he's like the fourth 366 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 6: guy he has He has eight scoreless games? 367 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: Is that something like that? Eight scoreless games. 368 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 6: I mean the names that are that are popping up 369 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 6: in the history of the game. For this guy at home, 370 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 6: the way he's pitching is just insane. He loves his mound, 371 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 6: he loves pitching in front of the fans. His fastball 372 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: command was back and sharp on the inside part of 373 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 6: the plate, and it opened up all types of stuff. 374 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: And he is perfecting his slider. 375 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 6: My fine feathered friends, that slider's getting tighter and tighter. 376 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 6: He's getting wings and misses on that sucker. And look 377 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 6: out the rest of the National League. If that gets 378 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 6: to a like a fifty five to sixty five pitch 379 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 6: as far as grading it, lookout, because he's got to eighty. 380 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 6: He's got an eighty fastball and an eighty changeup, So 381 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 6: you you couple that with like a sixty slider. 382 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: It's say good night, my friends. 383 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he had like twenty three twenty three missus. 384 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, no, the forre his first five strikeouts for 385 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: sliders last night, and then and then he started throwing 386 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: getting everybody out of the change up later in the game. 387 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 5: Dazzly. 388 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just phenomenal. 389 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 5: How about the pirates sick of looking at him? It's 390 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 5: like sixteen innings, no runs, twenty three k's. 391 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like now they get they get Zach Wheeler tonight. 392 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of other stuff going on today 393 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: and this weekend, Rubin, do you care to share with 394 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: all of us? 395 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 6: You know, there is a really interesting stuff going on 396 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: in the world of football, I mean soccer. The United 397 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 6: States with a not the United States with a knockout 398 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 6: round match tonight at eight pm Eastern against Bosnia and 399 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 6: Zevigina Givina. 400 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know how to say that word. 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Go Jimmy yet, if you have something. 437 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: Last thirteen games, six two hit games and won three 438 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: hit game last thirteen. 439 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, bad, three forty five in his last thirteen games. 440 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: And then what about Justin Crawford? 441 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, this last yeah? 442 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: Batting three seventy five. 443 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: Last yeah. 444 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 6: And so I got to say, and I got to 445 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 6: give some love to cole Wine Troub. I guess a 446 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 6: couple of days ago he put together a story about 447 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 6: some adjustments that Crawford had had made and he has 448 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 6: sort of gone to a no stride to eliminate some 449 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 6: of the movement he's been late on the fastball. It's 450 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 6: a really hard thing to adjust in the middle of 451 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 6: a season for a young player who's just trying to survive, 452 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: right He's trying to figure out a way to stay 453 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 6: in the big leagues and to be a contributor. And 454 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 6: you know, credit to him, you know, I sometimes question, like, 455 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 6: why does it take so long for guys to make adjustments? Well, 456 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: the guys had success doing hitting a certain way for 457 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 6: a long long time in the minor leagues, and you 458 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 6: sort of have to let him fail for a little 459 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 6: while before you can really get in his brain and 460 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 6: get in his soul and be able to make the 461 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 6: adjustment and say, listen, you're probably not going to be 462 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 6: able to hit like this in the major leagues. You've 463 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 6: got to make a little bit of an adjustment. I 464 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 6: think that they've gotten to the point with Crawford to 465 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: be able to do that, and I'm sure they're talking 466 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 6: to the hitman Mike Eastler, who's one of his mentors, 467 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 6: and talking to his dad about making those adjustments. There's 468 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 6: a lot of things, machinations and things that have to 469 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 6: happen with Kevin long that relationship to make that change. 470 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: He's made the change. He looks like he's a little 471 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: bit more crisp to the baseball. Has a huge base 472 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 6: hit yesterday to break the back of the Pittsburgh Pirates. 473 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: In the second inning with a two. 474 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 6: Out RBI after a tough at bat, guy throwing one 475 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: hundred and two miles an hour fastball at him, foulling 476 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 6: him off, and then you know, picking off a little 477 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 6: breaking ball in the back door and put it in play. 478 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 6: That kind of stuff is huge for his huge for 479 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 6: his ego, it's huge for his confidence. Gets another couple 480 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 6: of hits, puts a great bunt down does a bunch 481 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 6: of stuff really really well. And that's huge for the 482 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 6: Phillies because if they get some production out of that 483 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 6: nine hole, and with the way Trey Turner swing in 484 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 6: the bat, you got a nice little duo there that 485 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 6: that can create some havoc. 486 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 4: That's the type of hitter he should be lined a 487 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: line slash, drop one down. Usual wheels, you know, like 488 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: William McGee used to do wheels. 489 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: Jimmy mentioned Zach wheels. Wheeler is facing sixty ninety Paul 490 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: Skeins on Wednesday night. That's going to be a fun 491 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: one at Citizens Bank Parking Gym. You had a little story. 492 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 3: I read an interesting story on Zach weed season so 493 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: far and what might be to come in twenty twenty 494 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: seven and beyond. 495 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 4: Well, he's you know, obviously he's he's chasing you know 496 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 4: that Cy Young, which I think he which I know 497 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 4: he wants so badly, And he'll get to qualify for 498 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: the Era lead in about a month or so. 499 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 5: And uh, you know, we. 500 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: Talked a little bit about the possibility of Cooperstown because 501 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: when you look at his numbers since he arrived in 502 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 4: Philly in the seven six plus seasons. He's the best 503 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 4: starting pitcher in baseball, and that's approaching an era, and 504 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 4: that's how a lot of voters look at it, the 505 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: dominated era. So he's getting very close to that. And 506 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 4: he did admit, you know, he signed through twenty twenty seven. 507 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: He has always said he intends to retire after that season, 508 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: but he admitted to the possibility of some wiggle room 509 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 4: after twenty twenty seven, maybe continuing to pitch a fee, 510 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: depending on how he feels and depending how things go. 511 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 5: Nothing certain, but open minded. So but I'm really looking 512 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 5: forward to seeing him face schemes tonight. He's on an 513 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 5: unbelievable role. They're ten and two in his starts to 514 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: twenty and four in his and Sanchez starts since Zach 515 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: returned on April twenty fifth, So this turnaround has been built. 516 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 5: It's sprung from Zach Wheeler's return. It's the team. 517 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: You get performances like that in October. You never know 518 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: what can happen. 519 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: You never ever, No, it. 520 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: Would be absolutely amazing if if Zach Wheeler would decide 521 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: to keep this thing going bon twenty twenty seven, because 522 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: he has so much fun to watch, and I do 523 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: believe he's a Hall of Fame. Murphy puts in another 524 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: couple another feud. 525 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 5: You get a sag. I have another big October two. 526 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, people are looking at Hall of Fame. 527 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: People are just start looking at pitchers in the Hall 528 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: of Fame differently. The three hundred wins and all that stuff. 529 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: It's gonna be looked at differently. He is one of 530 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: the best for an extended period of time. I believe 531 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Fame candidate. 532 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 4: And Todd do you remember twenty twenty one, so he 533 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: loses the finishes second to Burns in the cy Young 534 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: by right, yes, yes, And so do you remember talking 535 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: to him in clear Water in February of twenty twenty 536 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: two he was chapped that. 537 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 5: He pitched two hundred and thirty two hundred thirteen innings. 538 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 5: The other guy pitched sixty seven. 539 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 4: But Zach projects to have about seven about one hundred, 540 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: and the other guy pitched one hundred and sixty seven. 541 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: Zach projects have about one hundred and seventy innings this year. 542 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be poetic justice if he could win the 543 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: cy Young on that innings total when he kind of 544 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: got jobbed on it in twenty twenty one. 545 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do remember that we were standing right outside 546 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: the clubhouse between Speck Bright or what is it Baker Ballpark, Yeah, complex, 547 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 3: and we're talking to him and you could tell he 548 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: was irritated, as he should have been, because, as you said, 549 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 3: he threw like sixty more innings. 550 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a joke. It was a joke. 551 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 6: And I remember going on MLB Network and having an 552 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 6: argument with Jim Bowden about it, and he was trying 553 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 6: to tell me that the other guy deserved it more 554 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 6: like bull shit. 555 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it was ridiculous. He's pitching an extra month 556 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: and a half, an extra month. 557 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: Jason Stark had at Jason Stark had a great stat 558 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: that you're like, if you took Zach Wheeler out of 559 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: the game in the sixth inning, like Corbyn Burns left 560 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: every game, their numbers were literally identical. Like Zach Wheeler 561 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: got penalized for being a guy. 562 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 6: That was It was the stupidest, ridiculous decision in the 563 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 6: history of writing. 564 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys, it was bad. 565 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: The right I voted. 566 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 2: I wanted it up. 567 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: I voted for the guy. 568 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 6: Writers have it up and it's a disappointment. He would 569 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 6: have won it last you know, he would have wanted it. 570 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: I mean obviously he had sale yeah, sale deal top 571 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 6: five last year, two. 572 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: Years yeah, two years ago. Yeah yeah. But it should 573 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: be a fun game to night. There's a lot of 574 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: great stuff going on in the area, right, Ruben, Do 575 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: you have anything else? Yeah? 576 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: You know what? 577 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, don't forget about the slug Ball All Star 578 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 6: Classic in Philadelphia August eighth, twenty twenty six. It's going 579 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 6: to be happening at Tony lasorda Field University of Pennsylvania. 580 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: We're going to have a whole bunch of alums there 581 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 6: from the Phillies. It's benefiting the Darren Dalton Foundation and 582 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: the Ruben Tomorrow Senior Foundation. I mean, you're gonna have, 583 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 6: you know, a whole bunch of guys that are scheduled 584 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: to be there, including Cole Hamills, Mike Liberthal, Mickey Morandini, 585 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 6: Kevin stock Er, Milt Thompson, Dominic Brown, myself, even Charlie 586 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 6: Manuel and Larry Bow will be there as honorary managers. 587 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 6: Please join us eleven am to one pm that the 588 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 6: gates will open at ten thirty. Get your tickets at 589 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 6: Playball plateslugball dot Com. I appreciate you guys throwing a 590 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 6: little Let me do a little plug on that. 591 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, man, we had a great time doing a slugball. 592 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: That's right, you guys doing a little slugball. Yeah, it's 593 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: going to be a cool competition. 594 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 6: And I think we're going to have a whole bunch 595 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 6: of folks sort of covenant done. The NBC is going 596 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 6: to be there, there's going to be all a bunch 597 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 6: of stuff that It'll be a fun day, no doubt. 598 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 599 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: All right, guys, Well Zach Wheeler, Paul Skins on Wednesday Night. 600 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: Philly Show will be back on Friday. 601 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: Smelling lator boys, Smell you Jimmy. 602 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 603 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 604 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts.