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Speaker 1: Oh, Tasker gone, touch down, touch down TCHT TCHT time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, coming to

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Speaker 1: it from Orchard Park, from One Bill's Drive and here

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Speaker 1: we go with three hours on a Tuesday to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Bills in the NFL. We are happy to

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Speaker 1: be here, happy to have you along with us. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our one Buffalo studio alongside the AD Pro Sports

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Speaker 1: Training Center. Off day for the players. Are those several

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Speaker 1: of them in there? A lot of them in yoga.

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Speaker 1: They do yoga, several players every Tuesday, Steve with aptified

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Speaker 1: Yoga and story. I think it's a lot of what

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Speaker 1: they do these days. I've talked to a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams around it. You know what the amazing thing is

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Speaker 1: now it all used to be about getting ready for this,

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Speaker 1: getting ready for that, you know, getting in shape, standing shape,

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Speaker 1: lifting hard, run and how much you do and a

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Speaker 1: lot of what teams do now all over the league

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Speaker 1: and the Bills are no different, is recovery. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking the exact same thing. It's recovery. Yes, this new

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Speaker 1: ad AD Pro Sports edition they're putting on, this huge edition.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have like napping pods. They're gonna have sensory

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Speaker 1: deprivation stuff in there, and it's all about and we

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Speaker 1: used to spend a lot of We used to say

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Speaker 1: this a lot when I was playing Monday through Thursdays,

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Speaker 1: more about healing than it is, you know, it's more

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Speaker 1: mental preparation and physical healing. And now everybody's on board

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Speaker 1: with that. They're doing these. They have napping pods for

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Speaker 1: crying out loud, napping pods like the sensory deprivation. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a standing little appointment over there. You

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Speaker 1: are right, I was thinking about not together. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: we're just separate pods. Last week, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: how much time has spent on recovery though during the

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Speaker 1: course of the week, by all players, by the entire unit.

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Speaker 1: When you played twenty five years ago, so I'm all

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Speaker 1: the time, Well, you probably recovered, but it wasn't organized

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Speaker 1: their structure that you hurt all the time, You go home,

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Speaker 1: oh kid with it. Well, they got a better understanding

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Speaker 1: of how not only how important it is it used

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Speaker 1: over it. You know, it's like you get over it,

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Speaker 1: you know, start lifting getsn't work the soreness out. That

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. Now there's there's protocols, and there's techniques

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Speaker 1: There's a regular massage session. They got massage like I

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Speaker 1: never like a lot of massage was just kind of

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Speaker 1: know you're doing it just because it feels good, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm I never did that. I never never got a massage.

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Speaker 1: I've had one massage in my whole life. And now

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Speaker 1: the napping pods or a thing this float tanks. Those

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Speaker 1: taking a yoga class today, which is all part of recovery.

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Speaker 1: You guys needed to recover. But it just wasn't what structured.

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Speaker 1: getting set to play. They do have another game. In fact,

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Speaker 1: twelve games left this season. The season's not over yet.

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Speaker 1: Although many people, just as we said, after a week

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Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills, thinking they got it all

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Speaker 1: Four games in. We got a good show today. But

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Speaker 1: let me talk first about what we want to make

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Speaker 1: the topic of discussion. And we need your input on this.

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Speaker 1: Four games in a quarter of the season, twenty five

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest surprise to you from the first four

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Speaker 1: what happened in twenty eighteen. This is the first four games.

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Speaker 1: What surprises you about the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills. That's

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. It's up right now on Twitter. We've

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Speaker 1: a couple of topics. You may have something else, But

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Speaker 1: They had their defense. Defense was slow to start. It

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Speaker 1: it's it's a risk. It's a risky move. Surebel's risk

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Speaker 1: and I accept his explanation. And when he says he'll

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Speaker 1: some days like this for this quarterback all this season.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have times. And I think the frustrating thing

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Speaker 1: gonna be games where you think, man, oh man, he's

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Speaker 1: just not getting better. You know, he's just not making

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Speaker 1: any progress. There's gonna be days like that. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. If I want to look at it like that,

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Speaker 1: I would think there's gonna be ups and downs. There

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Speaker 1: will be a steady curve straight to the top without

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Speaker 1: any letting you know. Oh yeah, I don't know. And

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Speaker 1: that's the problem when you when your roller coaster and

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Speaker 1: you hit those low spots on the roller coaster. Those

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Speaker 1: are gonna be some hard days, sure, but there's also

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Speaker 1: gonna be some really good days. Yes, And I think,

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Speaker 1: and I've told you this before, I make the analogy, Uh,

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Speaker 1: those bad days will come become less bad, and they'll

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Speaker 1: become less frequent. Um, he'll put together a couple of

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Speaker 1: nice series and then it'll be a nice half, and

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Speaker 1: then it'll be a nice complete game. And then he'll

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Speaker 1: have a bad game or a bad half or a

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Speaker 1: bad couple of series, and then he'll come bounce back

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Speaker 1: from that and he'll be that kind of progress. But

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Speaker 1: let's face it, last last Sunday, he had he had

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Speaker 1: an entire game that just wasn't up to snuff, and

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Speaker 1: you know, and it was half of the starts he's

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Speaker 1: made or not quite. That's not right. Two of the

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Speaker 1: starts he's made and the uh, the La Chargers start

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Speaker 1: middle start was okay. Now, how long is it gonna

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Speaker 1: before we see another good start? And that's the question? Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: Annie are there is a roster move today by the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Just announced they have released a defensive end

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Speaker 1: Nate Orchard, and signed a defensive back, cornerback Dante Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Signed just now by the Buffalo Bills. They worked him

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Speaker 1: out yesterday. We got a chance to get a look

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Speaker 1: at him during the workout. He's good size. Dante Johnson

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Speaker 1: released on September twenty seventh, just last week by Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Suffered a groin injury before the start of the season

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Speaker 1: the injured reserved list by Seattle. Dante Johnson was going

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Speaker 1: to be starter for Seattle this year before the opening

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Speaker 1: of the season before he was injured. Spent the first

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Speaker 1: San Francisco in twenty fourteen. Four years there got some

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Speaker 1: starts there. He's played a little bit and then started

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Speaker 1: all sixteen games last year for San Francisco. One interception,

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Speaker 1: seventy seven tackles, seven passes. Dante Johnson, free agent cornerback

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Speaker 1: signed by the Bills six two, two hundred pounds. We'll

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Speaker 1: get a sense tomorrow how they plan on using him,

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Speaker 1: but he has been signed in The Bills have released

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Speaker 1: released pass rusher defensive end Nate Orchard that just came

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Speaker 1: down moments ago by the Bills. Let's hear from you

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Speaker 1: what's the most surprising thing about the Buffalo Bills so

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Speaker 1: far this season? We got a Twitter poll up. Many

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Speaker 1: of you think it's the lack of a running game.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the options. You can vote on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you on the telephone nine

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, and on the tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: and we got some tweets in here. Team any twenty

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Speaker 1: two says he voted other for the most surprising thing

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Speaker 1: about the Bill so far. He says others Other. The

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Speaker 1: biggest surprise, he writes, is how bad we've looked on

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Speaker 1: both sides. Embarrassed opening day game over at halftime of

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Speaker 1: the home opener, first shout out in ten years against

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Speaker 1: an at best average defense. It's how we are losing.

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Speaker 1: It's the biggest surprise concern for me. That's um, I

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Speaker 1: get it. You know, I hope that it doesn't maintain

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Speaker 1: that the Bills don't maintain that level of production. They

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Speaker 1: have been blown out a couple of times. You look

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Speaker 1: at the average points for the first four games. The

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Speaker 1: Bills are giving up twenty six and a half points

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Speaker 1: per game in the first four games, an average of

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Speaker 1: twenty six and a half points per game. They're scoring

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Speaker 1: an average of thirteen points per game in the first

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Speaker 1: four games. So, in other words, they're being outscored two

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Speaker 1: to one overall for the first four games on an

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Speaker 1: average basis. That does not make for great football to watch.

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Speaker 1: Certainly is a prescription for foot bad football too. As

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Speaker 1: far as wins and losses, and you know, Team Many

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Speaker 1: twenty two makes a pretty decent point. It's it's how

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Speaker 1: the Bills are losing that's the biggest surprise slash concern.

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Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. It would be different if

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Speaker 1: they were losing by a late field goal, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: if even by a possession where the other team kneels down.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but they've been They got taken to

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Speaker 1: the wood shed for a couple of weeks to start

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Speaker 1: the season, and that and then again this last week.

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Speaker 1: Although they got shut out, their defense and we I

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Speaker 1: said a certain the defense gave him a chance last

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Speaker 1: week holding the other team to twenty two points. That

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Speaker 1: was that was You can kind of live with that

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Speaker 1: in this day and age in the NFL, twenty points

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Speaker 1: is kind of that threshold. But you got a score. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And as of yet, their offense really hasn't. And you know,

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Speaker 1: that may be something we have to wait on, but

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Speaker 1: they've certainly got to find a way to win games.

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Speaker 1: With that being the case, their defense has got to

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Speaker 1: have a stellar outing every week. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: hang their hats on it. But I get it too.

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Speaker 1: That's the way they have lost has been the disconcerting,

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Speaker 1: a real disconcerting factor of this season. Even though it's

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Speaker 1: obviously disappointing to lose any time, the way they've lost

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Speaker 1: has been, Wow, that makes you shake your head. Let's

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Speaker 1: get we've got another from the tweet sheet. Brian Cook

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Speaker 1: definitely the run game. It's completely non existent. For a

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Speaker 1: guy that reaches matchups, he means preaches matchups. How is

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Speaker 1: it day Ball hasn't been doing everything in his arsenal

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Speaker 1: to get forty touches per game. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: we're down forty versus the Titans. Find a way to

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Speaker 1: get him the ball in space. Well, yeah, there's and

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Speaker 1: there's no one. We said this yesterday. There's no one

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Speaker 1: magic bullet that's gonna fix the offense. Getting Shady forty

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Speaker 1: touches is only gonna make the defense think, well, wherever

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Speaker 1: he goes, that's where the ball is going to go.

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Speaker 1: But no question, all of us believe Lashawn McCoy's got

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Speaker 1: to drive the offense. Now he's got to get some

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Speaker 1: help too. Just like Josh Allen needs help, Shady needs

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Speaker 1: to help Josh Allen. Josh Allen needs to help him.

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Speaker 1: In return, they need to get some completion so that

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Speaker 1: the defense has to play honest. They can't put eight

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Speaker 1: guys in the box and bring all kinds of pressure

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Speaker 1: in any passing situation. Knowing that the Bills can't protect,

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Speaker 1: They've got to help each other and Shady he's the

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Speaker 1: best player on their offensive side of the football. That's

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Speaker 1: not gonna change overnight. They got it find ways to

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Speaker 1: use him, and you know, as creative as you can

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Speaker 1: possibly be as what Brian Dave is going to have

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Speaker 1: to do to get find ways to get him in

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Speaker 1: the football. But he's got to get some help too.

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Speaker 1: They've got to find a way to help each other.

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Speaker 1: Get the run game going, get the passing game, get

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Speaker 1: some completions, and protect the quarterback they've got. They've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of issues over there. They're just not playing well.

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Speaker 1: And it's amazing too, because because you've seen him, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've seen him play better all of these guys, yep.

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Speaker 1: And that's the frustrating part. And you know that's and

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Speaker 1: that's why I think you see Sean McDermott up there

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Speaker 1: with smoke coming out of his ears and his press cuffs.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no really no excuse for it. All right,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Give us a call? Most surprising

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Speaker 1: part of the Bills through the first four games this season,

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Speaker 1: we got phone lines open eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Not a lot to like

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Speaker 1: about the Bills start to the season. But what's most

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Speaker 1: surprises you about the way they've started this season? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call, let's discuss. You can vote on a

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll on that you can send in a tweet

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Speaker 1: and we may read it on the ear on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. The most surprising part of the Bills through

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Speaker 1: the first four games of the year. We'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about that when we come back. Time now to introduce

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Speaker 1: you to the Buffalo Bills Player of the Week, powered

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Speaker 1: safety Jordan Poyer. He got forty two percent of the votes.

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show. John Raffec tasker,

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Speaker 1: Nobody Cares, One goes live from one Bill's Drive and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about something else the debate during the break

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Speaker 1: do you care what Steve drinks during the show? Some

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Speaker 1: people chime in about my cans and my cups, my thing,

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Speaker 1: your overconsumption of diet Doctor Pepper and really what it

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Speaker 1: does to you during the course of the show. So

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Speaker 1: Steves has switched. There is no discernible difference in what

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Speaker 1: I drink and in my conduct on the show. Oh,

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Speaker 1: there is no discernible difference. So you've throttled down a

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Speaker 1: little bit. The Diet Doctor Pepper is out for today,

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Speaker 1: and you're into I hate to say it, I'm into

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Speaker 1: hot chocolate today because of the weather outside. It's that

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Speaker 1: kind of vibe. And I'm I don't want to I

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Speaker 1: don't want to pull the rip chord on the summer

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Speaker 1: just yet, but I do my favorite I'm My wife

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Speaker 1: always says this and I'm and I kind of become

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Speaker 1: the same opinion. My favorite season of the year. You're

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Speaker 1: ready for this, Murph fall, No, it's the next season.

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Speaker 1: What yeah? See in Buffalo we get four really good

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Speaker 1: seasons and I'm one of them. One of them is

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Speaker 1: way too long. By the time you know that you

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Speaker 1: get to the end of this season. The next season

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Speaker 1: is always my favorite one because I remember I right now, listen,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo people know how to have fun every season. So

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Speaker 1: right now you're looking forward to winter. No, it's fall,

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Speaker 1: you said, the next season. Yeah, we're into fall, I

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Speaker 1: know barely though. Okay, we're like a weekend to it.

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Speaker 1: That's my that's my thing. I'm I like all four seasons.

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Speaker 1: I like certain things about all four seasons in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: and the fall I'm I'm kind of stoked for I

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Speaker 1: always wish spring was linkedier and winter was a little

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Speaker 1: bit shorter, right, I wish spring was a spring instead

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Speaker 1: of you know, late winter, instead of you know, but

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Speaker 1: the mud season. It's hot chocolate season. It is. I

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Speaker 1: hope I'm not making anybody bum out that the weather's changing,

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Speaker 1: But what do you do today? Many of us are

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Speaker 1: concerned at what you're gonna be like at two o'clock

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Speaker 1: without the caffeine boost from the sixteen diet doctor Peppers

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Speaker 1: that you're normally well. They're putting in napping pods. So

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Speaker 1: I'll be a part of the show. Yeah, the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: bills one and three. At this point of the season,

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Speaker 1: we want to know for you, what's the biggest surprise

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Speaker 1: to you? Through the first four games of the season.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of the season complete, big the season

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Speaker 1: left seventy five percent, Well, what surprises you about what

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Speaker 1: you've seen from the bill so far? On Twitter, we've

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Speaker 1: got good response, almost a thousand votes in already half

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Speaker 1: of you say the ineffective run game is your biggest surprise.

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Speaker 1: Fifty percent say that, I'm right there with you. Twenty

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Speaker 1: six percent say slow start for the defense. I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to overlook that. I mean, I think they remounted nicely

645
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Speaker 1: starting with the second half a couple of weeks ago

646
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Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Twelve percent say Josh Allen starting early.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen percent, Now, it is a bit of a surprise.

648
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Speaker 1: I thought they might wait a little longer, but they

649
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Speaker 1: were forced into it by the poor play from Peterman.

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Speaker 1: Ten percent have something else in mind. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Let's discuss eight oh three five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty Ready for

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Speaker 1: phone calls. I want to take a few phone calls,

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Speaker 1: all right, Charlie and Buffalo on the line. Hello Charlie,

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Speaker 1: Hi John, Hello Steve, how are us this afternoon. Good Charlie.

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Speaker 1: My concern is and I heard you Scot. You know

657
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Speaker 1: you guys are talking about it with a running game,

658
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: and my thing is watching them players. There are a

659
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: problem with the coaches and the players not being in

660
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: sync with each other and make it the adjustments. Receivers

661
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: are not being open, they're not catching the ball and

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00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: it's hurting us all out. With a young quarterback. We

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00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: need to get that running game, especially when it starts

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Speaker 1: getting cold out more and we got to simplify everything

665
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: and help the kid out more. That's playing for us.

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00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: That's all I got to see, guys, And yeah, I

667
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: get you, Charlie, and you're right. I mean, the coaches

668
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: are going to have constant conversations about how they can

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Speaker 1: make it easier on Josh out and give him chances

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Speaker 1: to succeed. There's only so far. There's only so far

671
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Speaker 1: you can go with simplifying everything. In this day and

672
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Speaker 1: age in the NFL, there is a certain, you know,

673
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: fundamental level of offense you've got to be able to do.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be able to change some things at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You've got to be able to

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Speaker 1: make some checks and some adjustments after the play is

677
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: called at the line of scrimmage, by what you expect

678
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen to the defense and what

679
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: they're going to show you. You have to have a

680
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: certain level of that and they can only go so

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Speaker 1: far in and simplifying it now. And I hear this too,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can. Coaching does make a difference, no

683
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: question about it. Even the coaches will tell you that

684
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: it makes a huge difference. Look what happened, and it's

685
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: been a big story on the NFL in the last

686
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Speaker 1: twelve months about what happened to Jared Goff in Los

687
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Angeles with the Rams. He stunk as a rookie. Then

688
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: they switched head coaches. He got a head coach in

689
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Speaker 1: that was also an offensive play caller, and they started

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Speaker 1: to handle Jared Goff in a different way, and all

691
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, his career took off. You've got a

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Speaker 1: really well respected coaching staff here and they're doing everything

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Speaker 1: they can to slow things down for him. But this

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00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: is the guy that's three starts into his career, four

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Speaker 1: complete games into his career, and he's got a long

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Speaker 1: ways to go. You knew it, We knew it. They

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00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: knew it, he knows it, everybody knows it. The question

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Speaker 1: is how fast is he going to get better? What's

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Speaker 1: it gonna look like when he does get better, what

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Speaker 1: the players around him can do to make him better,

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Speaker 1: and what the opposing defenses are going to be able

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Speaker 1: to do to keep him from getting better. That's it,

703
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be a mix of all of

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Speaker 1: those things. As to how fast Josh Allen becomes the

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Speaker 1: player we're gonna see that we're gonna know after his

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Speaker 1: career is over. And that's that's the big question. We

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Speaker 1: don't know how good he's gonna be, right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: find out as the season moves along. I don't and

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Speaker 1: his point about sync and sync between coaches and players,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to measure that. When you're losing,

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Speaker 1: you're obviously not in sync. Certainly the coaches have a

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Speaker 1: better have an idea of how to win a game,

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Speaker 1: and if it doesn't come through, then you're not in sync.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what that means to say that

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Speaker 1: that's why they're losing because they're not in sync, or

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Speaker 1: they're losing to obviously the synchronization can't be there. Here's

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Speaker 1: Cam in New York. Hello, Cam, you're on the era. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going today, guys? Okay, good? You know about

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Speaker 1: the question about what I'm most surprised about is how

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Speaker 1: much rip Josh is getting when I just don't think

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is stepping up to whether he's you know,

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Speaker 1: if you can't pass the ball, you ain't getting your

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Speaker 1: blox and if you can't run the ball, you ain't

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Speaker 1: get your blocks. And then when he did move the

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Speaker 1: ball this week, kind of he's killed it, brought it

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Speaker 1: back and you know, he'd get on a drive and

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00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: they extended driving a third down and he'd lose it.

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Speaker 1: By penal league, I think we got to get strict

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Speaker 1: around the penal league parts of defense. I think they're awesome,

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Speaker 1: you know, for what how much they had to play

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Speaker 1: this last game and to hold it all through the

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Speaker 1: whole game to a ninth twenty two point game, I

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Speaker 1: thought they did act so but that's what I got

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Speaker 1: to say. You guys have a great day, all right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Cam? Yeah, I mean the defense really showed up

736
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Speaker 1: in the last GET two games, two and a half games.

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Speaker 1: I mean they made a big difference in them. In

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Speaker 1: the Viking game, they gave the Bills a chance in

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Speaker 1: this game in Green Bay. I mean, you'd like to

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Speaker 1: see him get a bunch of turnovers. Yeah, but you know,

741
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Speaker 1: you gotta give the other guys some credit to They've

742
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Speaker 1: got one of the best quarterbacks in the league over

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Speaker 1: the last fourteen years, if not the best one over

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Speaker 1: the last ten years, and he was getting healthier. They

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00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: were getting better in Green Bay offensively than they were

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Speaker 1: when he got his knee hurt on opening night. He's

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Speaker 1: a month away from that, so he didn't look hampered

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00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: at all by his injury, and the defense held him

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Speaker 1: to twenty two points. They made him kick field goals.

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Speaker 1: Two of those field goals were over fifty yards. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a really good effort by the defense, and

752
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: it gave the offense a chance and the offense couldn't

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Speaker 1: do anything with it. That's where that's where you're sitting,

754
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: and you got to find a way offensively to get

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: guys open, get the ball out of Josh Allen's hand

756
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: and let him have a throw that he could make.

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Speaker 1: They don't seem to be there yet or that, at

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Speaker 1: least they weren't against the Packers, And let's face it,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to get easier against the Titans.

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00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: I think the Titan defense, while it's not you know,

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00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: it's not the eighty five Bears, it's as good or

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Speaker 1: maybe better than the defense of the Green Bay Packers

763
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: in a lot of areas. So I think it's not

764
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: going to get easier on the offensive side of the football. Defensively, yeah,

765
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Speaker 1: they may have a better outing this week against Marcus

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Speaker 1: Mariota than they did against Aaron Rodgers. I would expect

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Speaker 1: them to. I've just looked up because you mentioned it,

768
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: green Bay defense and obviously helped along by Buffalo's and

769
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: aptitude Sunday, but Green Bay has the sixth ranked defense

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Speaker 1: in the league right now. Tennessee is the sixteenth, So

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Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, we'll see, Yeah, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they if they can turn that into some points. There's

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Speaker 1: a call from a Steven Michigan. Hello Steve, Hell you

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00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: guys love the show. It's a painful week. But and

775
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: especially since I listen to Howard and Jeremy this morning

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: with the top of the Patrick Mahomes fear Bunker, I'm

777
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: sure you've heard the term, and there's a freak out

778
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: that now should have taken Mahomes at ten and twenty seventeen.

779
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: I understand why the Bills didn't, because I don't think

780
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: we were ready for the quarterback yet at that point.

781
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: But my question is this, that's disregarding the years that

782
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: they came out. If you'd switched Josh Allen and Patrick

783
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes around, how well would Josh Allen be doing in

784
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: that Kansas City offense under Andy Reid, where the weapons

785
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: he has, And how well would Patrick Mahomes be doing

786
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: here at Buffalo with the line and receiver problems. That's

787
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: a good question, Steve. And let me just say I

788
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: did hear a little bit of that in my way

789
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: in to work out. I don't understand what the fear

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00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: bunker is that they refer to, and I kind of

791
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: think if I were a fan, I would reject the

792
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: notion that you should live in fear that some other

793
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: guy on some other team might be better than your guy.

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: First of all, Josh Allen is two and a half

795
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: games into his NFL career. Patrick Mahomes has a year

796
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: on him. Let's revisit that. If you want to compare them, fine,

797
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: but can we wait until they get at least Josh

798
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: gets his feet on the ground underneath them. I don't

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00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: know what that means. Fear bunker. Do you walk around

800
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and say, oh, my goodness, maybe somebody else got a

801
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: good player that we didn't get. Look, yeah, there's there's

802
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: a draft every year. People are adding good players to

803
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: the roster. But Steve, you make a good point. Um uh,

804
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Mahomes has great skill position players around him, right, the

805
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: NFL's leading rushier last year. Hill. Um, you know, they

806
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: have great skill position players around him. And he's got

807
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: a bonafide offensive guru and Andy Reid and and a

808
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: system that's proven to be good. So it's hard to

809
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: compare the two. And you would live in fear that

810
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: your team may have selected a guy when they should

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Speaker 1: have selected another guy. Then you can go right there

812
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: today after Kansas City's win last night, Go ahead, Steve

813
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: what Stephen Michigan and then Steve Teska. Yeah, the field

814
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Speaker 1: bunker business, of course, is only because Mahomes was selected

815
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Speaker 1: with our pid that we traded to kids today and

816
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: the Bills traded down and got an extra first rounder,

817
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: got tradevious White. They used the extra first rounder to

818
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: help them get their quarterback. And it wasn't like the

819
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Bills were like, oh, who's Pat Mahomes. They knew Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I told Steve this this morning. I know that Pat

821
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Speaker 1: Mahomes was high on their list. A year ago. They

822
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: made the decision, and I talked to the decision makers

823
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: a year ago. They made the decision that we could

824
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: get Mahomes we liked Mahomes, or we could entertain some

825
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: offers and maybe add some more people because we have

826
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: a lot of needs. That's how it went down in year.

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Speaker 1: You live in fear if you want. But I find

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Speaker 1: that offensive. I think, yeah, go ahead, Steve anything upright

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Speaker 1: before anything else? Steve what else? Well, No, I just

830
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: totally agree with that. And to say that that Patrick

831
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes would be doing here at Buffalo now what he

832
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: is doing in Kansas City, I think it's ridiculous. So

833
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Speaker 1: I agree totally with what you're saying. I think the

834
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Speaker 1: Bills are gonna be all right. I think we've seen

835
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: a good build up on the defense. Look at allowing

836
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: twenty two points to Green Bay, who's a Super Bowl contender,

837
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Speaker 1: after we laid seven of twelve three and out eggs

838
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: in that game on offense is impressive. I think the

839
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: defense isn't good shape. I agree with what Sal says.

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Sala Capaccio indicates that, yeah, if you want long term success,

841
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: build up the defense, and I think that's exactly what's happened.

842
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: Alan take his lumps. I think he can take it.

843
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: He's a big kid. And then I think, get go

844
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: out and find the weapons and make good selections next year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going crazy with this is a lot of

846
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: people are worried about that we've made a wrong decision

847
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: or whatever else. I think people have drought effects. I

848
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: think some people, think Steve. I think people some people,

849
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: not many, thankfully, but some people like to wallow in misery, like,

850
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: oh we blew it again. They got they got Mahomes

851
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Speaker 1: and we want to listen to Josh down. Can we

852
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: let these guys play a little bit too? Can we

853
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: let their careers established himself, both of them, including Mahomes,

854
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: before we start, you know, crying and living in the

855
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: fear bunker. Go ahead, man, listen. Mahomes is gonna be

856
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: a good player, yes, and Josh could be a good

857
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: player too. Right, here's the problem. You're right in one respect,

858
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: the Bills had more holes to fill in their roster

859
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: than uh one quarterback was gonna help and by getting

860
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: an extra one, actually two ones for the pick at ten,

861
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: Let's face it, the Chiefs were rolling the dice too.

862
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: Now they had Alex Smith who could get him through.

863
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: Even if Mahomes turned out to be a guy uh

864
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: like Hackenburg in uh uh in New York could turn

865
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: out to be a bust. But he's not going to

866
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: going to But here's the thing that the Chiefs are

867
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: not the Bills. The years leading up to where the

868
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs were last year to take Patrick Mahomes with Andy

869
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: Reid is a lot different than the Bills were in

870
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: that at that same point in time. The Bills have

871
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: huge had huge cap issues they were gonna have to face.

872
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: They're getting that under control. They wanted to get that

873
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: under control. They wanted to line themselves up to get

874
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: a quarterback in a year where it looked like there

875
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: was going to be more than a couple, more than

876
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: one or two guys available to get They got extra

877
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: draft picks to get it, to fill some holes in

878
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: their roster. And they're they're in the middle of getting

879
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: to exactly where they want to be. They've got they're

880
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna wipe off a huge amount of debt or dead

881
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: cap money this year. They're gonna have a lot of

882
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: money to spend next year. They've already filled a couple

883
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: of holes on their roster. They've got some others they

884
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: would like to fill, and maybe they'll be able to

885
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: do that, or maybe they'll be able to coax some

886
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: better play out of the guys. They have. All of

887
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 1: that stuff put together puts the Bills in a much

888
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: different place twelve months ago, fifteen months ago, eighteen months

889
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: ago than the Chiefs were in. Yeah, you can't. They're

890
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: two different teams in different points of their process of

891
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: building and the process of trying to win games, of

892
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: where their roster is, where their cap money is, where

893
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: their salary cap is, all of that, and so it

894
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: it's crazy talk to go back and say what could have,

895
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: should have, would have could have been? It's crazy talk.

896
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: All Right, we got a break, We're coming back with more.

897
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker One Bills Live from One Bill's

898
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. One Bills Live

899
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: from One Bills Drive and assigned for Reds Milestones presented

900
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Speaker 1: by Reids Jewelers, the official jeweler of the Buffalo Bills

901
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: starlet Tulay has started fifty consecutive NFL games. Is consecutive

902
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: game started streak ranks fifth among NFL defensive tackles fifty

903
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: consecutive starts, going for fifty one this Sunday. That's Reids

904
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Speaker 1: Milestones presented by Reichs Jewelers, the official jewelers of the

905
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Roster moved by the Bills today, Steve they

906
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: signed a corner. Saw him working out a little bit yesterday.

907
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: He's big, six two, two hundred pounds. Dante Johnson who

908
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: played with the Niners. He was gonna be a starter

909
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks this year and he got a groin injury.

910
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: It's not like he gotta He got a groin injury

911
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: right at the beginning of the season. Then they're rookie

912
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. Trey Flowers started to play really well

913
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to wait on Johnson to get healthy,

914
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: and they cut him or actually put him on IR

915
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: and now he's now he was They cut him after Trey, Yeah,

916
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: they released him after Flowers started to play well. But

917
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: this guy was gonna be a starter for the Seahawks

918
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: this year. Six two, he's kind of got that Seahawk body,

919
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: six two two hundred, big, tall, lanky guy. And it's interesting.

920
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: And that's you know, you think how things change, Murf.

921
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: We've seen it. We saw it in training camp. These

922
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: guys get hurt. You don't know how it's gonna happen.

923
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Then a guy starts to play well and all of

924
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, you go from being a starter for the

925
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and you're done. You're released, Yeah, the club.

926
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: And now he's gonna be in Buffalo. Played last four

927
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: years for San Francisco and now he's a Buffalo bill.

928
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, be interested to see how fast he can

929
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: assimilate the defense and get on the field. If you know,

930
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: if he can, I mean they may. We've been talking

931
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: about the cornerback spot they got every week. Yeah every

932
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: week he again, thinking who's down at corner this week?

933
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: So maybe this provides some relief, an't It isn't as

934
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: if Dante Johnson has been hurt a lot four seasons,

935
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: played in sixteen games three of those seasons including last year,

936
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: and fifteen games a couple of years ago, So it's

937
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: injuries are not an issue or have not been an

938
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: issue with him. But he was available to the Bills

939
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: after being released by Seattle's out their injury reserved list.

940
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: Dante Johnson. More about him coming up. We got a

941
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: lot more to come. Stick around. We're back with more

942
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: in a moment, including Peter King from a Football Morning

943
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: in America. He's coming up next. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

944
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

945
00:44:51,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh on what time Steve clasp them.

946
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: Don Bastie backs down tax dollars four times. We go

947
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: rolling hour two of the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker

948
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: from our one Buffalo studio. We're coming to you live

949
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: on a cloudy, rainy d really rained hard this morning

950
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: here Steve right yea on East r as well as

951
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Archer Parker Yards. It was thundering about five am, big

952
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: time loud and then uh yeah it was it was

953
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: a bad day. It was cold, yeah, yeah, it started

954
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: shame as you said, fall is here. That's why I'm

955
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: drinking hot chocolate. Follows here. Peter King from Football Morning

956
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: in America is going to join us momentarily. We're trying

957
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: to hook up with him, and that's why we start

958
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: the hour right now. We got a lot to talk

959
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: with him about. He got heap into the Tennessee Titans

960
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: and they're three and one start there, three street wins.

961
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: We'll talk with Peter about that. We'll talk about the

962
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: explosion of passing offense. And I get it, and I

963
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: understand the frustration. Look, the Bills got shut out. That's bad.

964
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: And they have not had a good offense so far

965
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: this year. That's bad too. And and this makes it worse,

966
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: I think, Steve. The numbers that came out today from

967
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: the NFL passing touchdowns through four weeks, a brand new

968
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: NFL record two hundred and twenty eight passing touchdowns in

969
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: the first four weeks of twenty eighteen, most in the

970
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: modern ear of the Super Bowl. They were of football.

971
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: You know, many passing touchdowns your Buffalo Bills have through

972
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: four weeks too. Well, that hurts. And then and I

973
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: understand the Mahones trans fiction Moans has what fourteen fourteen

974
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns? Yeah, Andy Dalton, R Fitzpatricks got nine eleven,

975
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: you know he's got eleven eleven. Jared Goff has eleven,

976
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton has eleven. Thrown it around fourteen, right, And

977
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: the Bills aren't even close to the we're in the

978
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: we're in the rookie quarterback business with the Jets, with

979
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, with the Browns. All of those four young

980
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks all went oh and four this last weekend. They've

981
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: all had moments where they've all looked good and then

982
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: they've all had moments where they turned it over and

983
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Uh, Darnold, I don't think turned

984
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: it over this week, but he still couldn't get the win.

985
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: They had that nice win on opening night in Detroit

986
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: and then they've struggled from that point on. Baker Mayfield

987
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: got his first start, couldn't win that, although he came

988
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: in and took him past the Jets on a Monday

989
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: night in the second half, came back from fourteen points down.

990
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: And Rosen a lot of people said Rosen played extremely

991
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: well in his first start for the Arizona Cardinals, but

992
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: couldn't get the win there either. So a lot of

993
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: those you know, teams are in the rookie quarterback business

994
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: and some of them have got the guy they like,

995
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: and it's there's so much on that position, which is

996
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: why we watch it and why you draft these guys,

997
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: why they try to develop them. I think two, we

998
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: haven't talked about this much, Murph, And maybe I'll ask

999
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: Peter King this. He's gonna come on with us right now.

1000
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: Why the league is so different now in developing young quarterbacks.

1001
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: It's different than it was when Jim Kelly came in,

1002
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: as different than it was when Peyton Manning came in.

1003
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's this is a much different league to

1004
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: have a young quarterback starting than it's ever been. Good

1005
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: question for Peter King. He joins us right now from

1006
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: NBC Sports, and he writes the Football Morning in America

1007
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: column every Monday. Have it to have Peter Ron with us. Peter,

1008
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve up here in Buffalo. How you

1009
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: doing today? I'm doing great, guys. How about you? We're

1010
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: good s. Got a quick question for you, go Steve. Yeah,

1011
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: you might have heard me just a moment ago, asking

1012
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: how much of a different league is it these days

1013
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: that a young young quarterbacks have to get acclimated to.

1014
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: You got Rosen, Darnold, Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen. These

1015
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: four young quarterbacks are trying to make their way in

1016
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: a league that's very different than the league that's say

1017
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and Dan Marino broke into Steve. I think

1018
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: the biggest deal is and Andy Dalton is very very

1019
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: bullish on this. You know, when Andy Dalton was in

1020
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: high school in Katie, Texas, he spent most of his

1021
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: off seasons. He didn't play ten sports or anything like that.

1022
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: He really was focused on being a great quarterback. He

1023
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: played seven on seven football and he played it with

1024
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: some of the best receivers in the state of Texas.

1025
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: And so when you do that in the winter, when

1026
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: it's still nice enough to do it, when you do

1027
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: it in the spring, you know, in the offseason of football,

1028
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: you do it in the summer, you get used to

1029
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: playing with really good players and also players who were

1030
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: probably going to be going to Division one schools. And

1031
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton said, that's the reason why I was able

1032
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: to walk in whatever year was, I think twenty eleven

1033
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: and be able to play right away at you know,

1034
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: I could have played right away at TCU, and why

1035
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: I was able to play so early with the Bengals.

1036
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: So I think that has something to do with it.

1037
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: And I also think the one other thing is that

1038
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: with all the spread offenses the colleges are playing right now,

1039
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: when you come to the NFL. It isn't like every

1040
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: team in the NFL is saying, Okay, we're lining up,

1041
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be under center ninety percent of the time.

1042
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a fullback and a running back in

1043
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: the backfield, We're gonna have a tight end, and then

1044
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have two wide receivers. I mean that might

1045
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: happen three times a game, and it used to be

1046
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: that happened forty three times a game. So I think

1047
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: the game really has changed, and I think the quarterbacks

1048
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: are getting acclimated to playing football earlier than they ever

1049
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: have been. Is it a better game, Peter? I think

1050
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: it is potentially a more explosive game. I don't know

1051
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: if it's a better game. I enjoy watching a wide

1052
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: open game with a spread field, but Steve, I do

1053
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: not enjoy watching it if you can't touch the quarterback

1054
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: or can't I'm not saying touch him, but I'm not

1055
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: going to enjoy the game. If plays like Clay Matthews

1056
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins in Week two, which was a natural, normal,

1057
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: regular tackle of the quarterback is called roughing the passers.

1058
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: That's wrong. That's if they if they call that and

1059
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to Steve, but if they

1060
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: call that consistently, football will be irrevocably changed. Peter King

1061
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Speaker 1: is on the line with this. Peter, and you wrote

1062
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: about this in your Football Morning in America column today.

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: The four hundred yard passing games so far twelve thirteen. Now,

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00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: I guess, right after last night, let me do the

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Speaker 1: two d and twenty eight passing touchdowns and twelve individual

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Speaker 1: performances of four hundred yards or more passing. That's what

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00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: the league wants. It appears, huh. I think it's what

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00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: the league wants. Brian McCarthy the other day, in writing

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00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: about this, I think, in tweeting about this, he's one

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00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: of the NFL vps of communication. He wrote, Hey, four

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00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: hundred is the new three hundred and so I think

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Speaker 1: people in the league like this, and there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with this. I'm not I'm not criticizing it. It's fun

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00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: to watch the aerial show. But I'm just saying that

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00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: if you protect the quarterback too much, I think you're

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00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: going to do harm to the game. Do you think

1077
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: it's becoming too easy? Yes? But I do think Steve

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00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: that defenses will adjust to this and the way they'll

1079
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: adjust to it, at least, in my opinion, is getting

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: linebackers who can turn and run and turn and cover

1081
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: better than they do right now. I think that there

1082
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: are linebackers right now who are being used. I mean,

1083
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr got exposed by the Rams the other day.

1084
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr should not be covering wide receivers, but he

1085
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: can cover backs, he can cover tight ends. But I

1086
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: think it puts a premium on absolute premium, and in

1087
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: drafts going forward, in choosing right at the cornerback position,

1088
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: there's where it's going to be crucial. I think. Well

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00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the line with Peter King, NBC sports columnists covered the

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00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: league for more than thirty years. He writes Football Morning

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Speaker 1: in America. Peter wrote yesterday about a conversation he had

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00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: looked like Sunday night. I guess with Mike Rabel, head

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: coach of the Tennessee Titans, bringing them to Orchard Park

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00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Rabel has become a risk taker, and you

1095
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: write about kind of he was taking his cues from

1096
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and the Eagles. How did that work? Peter?

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00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: I think what's happening right now, guys, is that Doug

1098
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: Peterson has become a really popular guy for young coaches

1099
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: to look at because instead of just saying right now,

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00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: I think the knee jerk reaction when Frank Reich has

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: a fourth and four at his forty three yard line

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Speaker 1: and there's whatever thirty three seconds left, I forget how much,

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00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: but the automatic knee jerk reaction is going to be,

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00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: you gotta punt the ball. And I think that's understandable.

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00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: And if he had punted the ball, I wouldn't have

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00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: killed him for it, because basically he would have been

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00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: ensuring a tie, almost ensuring a tie, and in my opinion,

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, a tie is not horrible. But I do

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00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: think that when you kick for a tie, which is

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: what he was doing, or when you play for a tie,

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00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: which is what he was doing, you know, you really

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00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: wonder whether on fourth and four, when you have a

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00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: quarterback at that point Andrew Luck who's completed forty passes,

1114
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: he's forty of sixty one at that point, so and

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00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: you're just asking him to complete a short throw and

1116
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: the receiver on the play, by the way, was open,

1117
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck threw a ball into the ground. He

1118
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: made a bad throw. That doesn't mean the decision was bad.

1119
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: It means it wasn't executed well in my opinion. And

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Speaker 1: then Mike Vrabel, obviously, you know, went forward on fourth

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Speaker 1: and two instead of kicking a fifty yard field goal. Basically,

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Speaker 1: what I would say is that in that particular case,

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that the Mike Vrabel decision was

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: that controversial. I think the Mike Vrabel decision is what

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Speaker 1: anybody would have done. I mean anybody. I shouldn't say that.

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Speaker 1: I think most people would have done that if they

1127
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: thought about all the alternatives. And in my opinion, when

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Speaker 1: you think about the alternatives, that is the right play

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00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: to make. Rabel did the right thing. And you talk

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: about the Titans are coming into Buffalo this weekend. They

1131
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: just in the last two weeks they went on the

1132
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: road and beat a Jacksonville team nine to six, and

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00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: then in overtime beat the defending world champions. The Titans

1134
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: have got to be feeling really good about where they're

1135
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: sitting right now, not only the three in one record,

1136
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 1: but who they've beaten. I think one of the things

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00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: that Rabel told me on Sunday night, you know, I

1138
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: think is really important. He said, these two games have

1139
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: really boosted the confidence of this team that they can

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00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: go into any place in the league and win. I

1141
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: think one of the interesting things when you look at

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00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: how a coach approaches his team, Rabel told me in

1143
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: training camp. He says, I'm always going to be honest

1144
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: with every player on my team. I'm never going to

1145
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: sugarcoat anything. And he told me Sunday night after the game,

1146
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: he goes, look, we're not the most talented team in

1147
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: the league, but there aren't many teams that play harder

1148
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: than we do, and probably no other team that plays

1149
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: harder than we do. So he views the job of

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00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: a coach as to is to put his team in

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00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: the best possible position to win. And I know that

1152
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: sounds like a cliche, but in Week three of this year,

1153
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: when they were oh and two and they're playing the

1154
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: Houston Texas, or Week two rather, I'm sorry Week two.

1155
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: They start oh and one and they're playing the Houston Texans,

1156
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 1: and he has his up back on the punt team,

1157
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Bayard throw a kind of a wobbly, high arching

1158
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: pass that ended up being a sixty one yard touchdown pass,

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00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: and everybody said, oh my god, that that really took

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: guts and in fact it did. But sometimes because the

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00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: majority of games in this league are decided by a

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00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: touchdown or less than what is wrong with making that call?

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00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: I think it's in essence a smart call. Peter. Last

1164
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: question we have for you deals with the Buffalo Bills

1165
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: shut out in Green Bay the other day. Very rough

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Speaker 1: day for rookie quarterback Josh Ellen. Should we get ready

1167
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: for many more days like this with Josh at least

1168
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: some days like this and up and down rookie quarterback campaign?

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Speaker 1: What do you see? I think what I see most

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00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: of all is a guy who really wants to be good,

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: who's got the right approach to the game, who understands

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00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: it's a marathon, not a sprint. You know, Josh McCown

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: is the backup now to Sam Darnel with the New

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00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: York Jets. I think he's really a smart guy. He's

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00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: one of the most intelligent and realistic, pragmatic quarterbacks I've

1176
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: ever met covering football. And he has this mantra where

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: and it's a cliche, where he says, hey, you know,

1178
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: it's a marathon, it's not a sprint, But he also

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00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: says about that it doesn't mean you can't play great

1180
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: right away, But don't draw every conclusion from your first game,

1181
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: from your first series of games, from your first half year, whatever.

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: This is a long, involved process. Josh Allen is going

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00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: to be a good NFL quarterback, I believe, but you've

1184
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: got to give him time. You've got to give every

1185
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: one of these guys time. If you do, I think

1186
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you'll be rewarded. But

1187
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: impatience is really kryptonite free young quarterbacks perspective, that's what

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: we're looking for. That's where we got from Peter. Thank

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: you very much. We appreciate that guy. You have a

1190
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: great week. Thanks See Peter King, NBC Sports count Odescy

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00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Rights Football Morning in America. It's up on the NBC

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00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: Sports Pro Football Talk website. Peter joined us on the

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00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: Subway Fresh saycotline, presented by Subway Restaurants proud to be

1194
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: locally owned and operated. I'm blown away. I think Peter

1195
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: nailed it. I wish I was that articulates. It's perspective.

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: It's don't draw inclusions based on one game, four games.

1197
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: Don't go into a fear bunker and say, oh, now

1198
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: what they have mahomes and we have Josh Allen, let's

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00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: wait and tail it plays out. Can we wait? And

1200
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: it is a long drawn out process and get a

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00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: quarterback who's really good. It takes a long time to

1202
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: master an offense. It takes a long time to understand

1203
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: the defensive that you're going to be facing, and it

1204
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: takes a long time to understand the players that you're

1205
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: playing with and what their strengths and weaknesses are. And

1206
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: it takes a long time to know all of that

1207
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: well enough that you don't have to think about it.

1208
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: You just do it. You understand it that well becomes

1209
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: second nature. It takes a long time to get to

1210
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: that point, and too often nobody is patient enough to

1211
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: wait on a guy to get there. They expect a

1212
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: guy to come in and do it right away, and

1213
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: when he does play well, they think he should play

1214
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: well all the time, no matter what. And when he stinks,

1215
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: he's never going to be able to play well because

1216
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: he's just not good enough. So, particularly in this culture

1217
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: and this day and age, with the social media and

1218
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: how everybody's got an opinion right away, it's hard to

1219
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: sit back and say, whoa, whoa, Just wait just a minute,

1220
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: let's let him get a sea Eason under his belt,

1221
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: and let's let's ride some waves with him before we

1222
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: make any conclusions and maybe get into a second year

1223
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: or third year, before we even start to see some

1224
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: steady progress and start to put some pieces around him

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01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: that he can use and make him successful. I'd just

1226
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Speaker 1: like to hear that kind of perspective, and we strive

1227
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Speaker 1: for that sort of reason perspective here on the show.

1228
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: Steve rarely rarely achieve it, but we do strive. Yeah,

1229
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: we're usually talking about recipes or doctor diet, doctor Pepper

1230
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: or something like that. It's about time you need a

1231
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: little caffeine. Now, Hey, how about our Twitter poll? What

1232
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: do you think? The season is? Four games complete? Twenty

1233
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: five percent of the season complete. What do you think

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: What's been the biggest surprise for you for the Buffalo

1235
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: Bills for you? Give us a call the The Twitter

1236
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: poll is up and it's getting pretty good action. The

1237
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: biggest surprise or the first four games or the Bill

1238
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: season so far? About half of you fifty one percent

1239
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: say the ineffective run game is the biggest surprise you've seen.

1240
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Twenty six percent say the way the Bill started slowly

1241
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: on defense surprises you. Fourteen percent say, Josh Allen getting

1242
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: the start into the starting lineup as early as he did.

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01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: We two surprised you nine percent have something else in mind,

1244
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: Give us a call. We'd love to talk here. We've

1245
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: got phone lines open eight oh three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Biggest surprise for the first four games of the season,

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01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: what do you guy? Yeah, Brian Greer from the tweet sheet,

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: Our O line was no surprise. That's why the QB

1250
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: and running backs struggle. But the D was supposed to

1251
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: be our strength. With the edition of Edmonds, the D

1252
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to be stronger, and that's why I think

1253
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: he says, you know, it's got to be the defensive.

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Speaker 1: Slow start was probably a little bit of a surprise,

1255
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: although I think everybody feels like the defense kind of

1256
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: caught their win. Yeah, I think it was a surprise

1257
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: that they got off to a slow start, though, and

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Speaker 1: they're fifteenth ranked in the league in defense. Last year

1259
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: they were twenty six, and we're not going to say

1260
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: that's the way they'll finish, but that's significant improvement. Fifteen

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Speaker 1: ranked twenty six or yeah, it was twenty six last

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: year and then, and this is a and that's a

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01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: defense too, is fifteenth ranked in the season in the

1264
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: league right now, in a season where they're not getting

1265
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: much help on off other side of the barn. It's

1266
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: not much complimentary football going on there. And that's four

1267
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 1: games against the likes of Aaron Rodgers and Chillip Rivers. Flacco, yeah, Flacco, Cousins. Okay,

1268
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: but those are two at least premiere quarterbacks. Look, can

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Speaker 1: they get better on defense, you bet absolutely. They signed

1270
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: a corner today in an effort to do that. But

1271
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: I have a hard time saying that the Buffalo defense

1272
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: is a surprise, and I would say I'm prepared to

1273
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: argue that they are on the verge of being stronger

1274
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: than they were a year ago. You think about it,

1275
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: those four quarterbacks toom have won a Super Bowl. One

1276
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: of them is going to the other ones going to

1277
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Philip Rivers and Kirk Cousins just

1278
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: signed at what time when he signed it was the

1279
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: biggest contract for any quarterback in the league as a

1280
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: free agent, and he got franchised twice then, guys, So

1281
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: they they've got some quarterbacks in their rear view mirror

1282
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: that have really got some credentials in this in this

1283
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: day and age of football. More from the tweet sheet,

1284
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: what's the most surprising part of the Bill through the

1285
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: first four games? Marked Layer says the ineffective run game

1286
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: should not be a surprise. Rookie quarterback, opponent's defensive coordinators

1287
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: loading the box to stop the run, lack of online talent,

1288
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: dariness to pass while bringing five and six man pressures

1289
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: an easy formula to stop the run might be right.

1290
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: You might be onto something there. I still think with

1291
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: the with LaShaun McCoy and with an offensive line that

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: has done this for the most part in the past,

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01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that they're not better at running the football

1294
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: than they have been the first four games. They're not

1295
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: locked into that the rest of the year. It's interesting too.

1296
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: And this is what is the biggest surprise for you

1297
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: about the Bills and from John Whitfield. And this is

1298
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: something that you chimed in on because of your job

1299
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: covering the Bills. I was expecting a lot of close,

1300
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: low scoring games, and all four games have not been closed.

1301
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: All four, even even the Bills win wasn't even closed.

1302
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about second half over at halftime. Yes,

1303
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to broadcast. I'm not complaining, but it's it's

1304
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: it's not the ideal broadcast situation. Not ideal for fans too.

1305
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: It's unusual fans. I talked to my family, They're like, uh,

1306
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: the second half was kind of awful, you know, And

1307
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: what'd you do in the second off? I went for

1308
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: a run. On the second half, I went off for

1309
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: a walk into the grocery store. The second halfs have

1310
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: been awful for the Bills for the most part, right

1311
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: through four games. Even when they went at Minnesota, it

1312
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: was great. It was a celebration, but you know, there

1313
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot going out in the second happen. Yes,

1314
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and go. You know. Yeah, it's

1315
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: just if you're in the lead. If you're not in

1316
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: the lead, it's like, oh my gosh, it's hard to

1317
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: suffer through it. And I and I get it too,

1318
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: And I know there are a lot of people that

1319
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: watch those games and when your team's way down, you know,

1320
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: you're out pushing a lawnmower. Honestly, you know, yeah, I

1321
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: gotta go do you can't stand it. You gotta leave

1322
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: the room. You go out and you can start shooting

1323
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: baskets in the driveway or something, you know, because you

1324
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to take because just like the fans,

1325
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: just like the players, the fans kind of invest you know,

1326
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: they're all invested emotionally. They getting there, You're excited, you

1327
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: got in. It's a in its event because all football

1328
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: football games are events because they don't happen all that often,

1329
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, once a week, so you kind of gear

1330
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: your day around it. And then when it starts to

1331
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: go south on it's like, oh man, that's a that's

1332
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: a big belly flop. And these blowouts both both ways, Uh,

1333
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: the takes all the eye. It kind of takes the

1334
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: fun out of it a little bit and half times,

1335
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, because now you feel you kind of feel

1336
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: obligated to watch the rest of it, and there's like

1337
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: I can't do it and they can't do it, And

1338
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: I get it. I understand that, I get the frustration.

1339
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: I feel it. It's not to say that it's gonna

1340
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: be that way the rest of the year, by the way,

1341
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, thinks James Peter King mentioned it, I believe it.

1342
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: It is a week to week league and teams getting better,

1343
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: teams get worse. Um, we'll see, We'll see how it

1344
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: plays out. I don't there no guarantee the Bills are

1345
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna get better, but it's hard to play as poorly,

1346
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: especially on offense as they played the first four weeks UM.

1347
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: Yesterday his news conference, Bills head coach Sean McDermott talked

1348
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: about the first four weeks and talked was asked about

1349
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: his patience with the way they've lost and losing three

1350
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: the first four. McDermott was asked if his patience is

1351
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: wearing thin, and here's his answer. I just know that

1352
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm not into when we don't When we don't play

1353
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: smart football, we don't play tough football. Um, we don't execute.

1354
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: It's hard to win games. Even even as we develop

1355
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: and girls a football team and get this thing right

1356
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: in this build, there are steps along the way that

1357
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking to see and I saw some of those yesterday.

1358
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to overlook those. Whether it's offense, defense,

1359
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: or special teams. There were moments as far as the

1360
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Jay, I'm looking for for

1361
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: certain things as we build this thing, and it's number one,

1362
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: it's intelligence, It's it's smarts, it's tough. And when you

1363
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to establish a line of scremens joining

1364
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: the football game, we've got to get that done. And

1365
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: then when we throw the football, we got to make

1366
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: sure everything's on time in the right spot. Um, it's

1367
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: just the execution as it relates to the passing game.

1368
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: So you know, my patience hasn't weren't thin. My patience,

1369
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm not a very patient. Got to begin with. When

1370
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: I see things that are up to our standard, we

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01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: celebrate those and that's what I'm That's that's what I'm

1372
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: all about. But when it's not up to our standard,

1373
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, my tolerances is not very high. That's what

1374
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: you want to hear. Steve right, he should tolerate the

1375
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: way they played an offensive called accountability. I mean, it

1376
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: goes all the way around, and it starts it starts

1377
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff and his the guys on his staff,

1378
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: and it goes right down through the players, all of

1379
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: them one at a time. And you know that there's

1380
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: been some individual conversations to all those guys. Offensive line,

1381
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: running backs, Josh Allen, of course, um wide receivers, everybody.

1382
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's an atmosphere that we've seen here.

1383
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: Uh we saw it here last year take shape in

1384
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: the accountability of these players not only have to their

1385
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: coaching staffs and but to each other. Um. And when

1386
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: you're successful, it makes it because of that accountability. It

1387
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: makes it so that you can replicate it again and again.

1388
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: And that accountability is a big part of it. And

1389
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's what he's getting to there when

1390
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: he's and you can you could sense the frustration of

1391
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: where the teams that where he is with his teams.

1392
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: Take a phone call here Ray and only anazon the line,

1393
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, Ray, welcome to the show. Yeah, when my

1394
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: job can do no. Well, This is John Murphy Ray

1395
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: and Steam here with Steve Tasker. Oh John, Yeah, I'm

1396
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: watching you and what's your name? No, I've watched every day.

1397
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: I liked your program. Thank you. Thanks. All I'm saying is,

1398
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: don't don't hurt the guy. Don't don't hurt Ellen. Are

1399
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: you going to get him hurt so bad he's gonna

1400
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: get so that he won't realize to be able to

1401
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: function the way he should. Another thing, he's he doesn't

1402
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: read the field. I know he's young, he don't read

1403
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: the fields. He misses places. Boy, he should go get

1404
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quick enough. Right, Well, he needs

1405
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: development Ray and that's kind of what the Bills are

1406
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: talking about this year. In fact, McDermot talked about it yesterday.

1407
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Sean, the head coach of the Bills,

1408
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: was asked, does he have concerns moving forward the offense

1409
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: and how it might impact Josh Alan long term. Here's

1410
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: what the head coach had to say, Well, you know,

1411
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: I think one of the goals out of this out

1412
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: of this year, number one is to win games, but

1413
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: it's also to the about these players, and Josh being

1414
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: a big part of that. That we get to the

1415
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: end of the season, you know that we can say

1416
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: he's exponentially better because of the reps he's gotten. And

1417
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: the only way you're going to get reps is if

1418
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: you're healthy. And so we have to start every game

1419
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: plan really met with that in mind of how do

1420
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: we protect the quarterback first and foremost, and then where

1421
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: we go after that falls in line because this this

1422
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: is a quarterback driven league, as you've heard me say before,

1423
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: So in order for the young man to play, he

1424
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: needs to be healthy. And in order from to be healthy,

1425
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: you can't stand back there and take hits. So now

1426
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: some of that falls on him as well, you know.

1427
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: So you got it's timing in the offense and continuity

1428
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: in the offense and so on and so forth. But

1429
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: that's where we go back to work today, and then

1430
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: we work back to work last night to try and

1431
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: try and get this thing going in the right direction. Here.

1432
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: That was Sean McDermott talking about Josh Allen in the

1433
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: long term ramifications of him being in the middle of

1434
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 1: a bad performance or a bad year. Is there a

1435
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: danger to getting him damaged in some way, shape or

1436
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: form beyond repair? And I don't think so. We've got

1437
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: some people who've chimed him on Twitter that said, you know,

1438
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: they asked me if I was surprised that Josh Allen

1439
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: wasn't taken out of the game, because there's no coming

1440
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: back from the way the Bill's Office was playing and

1441
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: the way the Packers defense was playing. There. You're worried

1442
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: about getting Josh hurt or are you worried about him

1443
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: getting emotionally scarred? No, let him play through it. And

1444
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: in fact, it's how you handle him after these losses

1445
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: that are just as important as how you handle him

1446
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: after the wins. You've got to make sure that he

1447
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: doesn't his confidence doesn't get broken, that you see what

1448
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: he did wrong. You let him know that you understand

1449
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: why he's making the mistakes because it's hard job to do,

1450
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: and there's no reason for him to come out of

1451
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: the game unless he's physically unable to go. He'll hang

1452
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: in there. He's a big kid, he's a strong kid.

1453
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: He's well grounded. He knows how difficult it's going to be.

1454
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: He wants to get better and he's gonna work hard

1455
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: to do it. You got to give him every opportunity

1456
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: to do that, and that means leaving him in the

1457
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: game at in these situations, even when the score is

1458
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,959
Speaker 1: out of hand. And I think I heard the appropriate

1459
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: amount of concern from coach McDermot on that sound bite,

1460
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: and I'm interested in your take on this, but the

1461
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: appropriate amount of concern about his well being physically, But

1462
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't care about being you know, mentally impacted. Right,

1463
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: You're a tough guy. You gotta be tough and hang

1464
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: in there. You go back to what Bill Parcel said

1465
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: to us on the show about his conversation with Josh

1466
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: Allen about hanging in there, bouncing back from a bad game.

1467
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: But there is concern that he takes so many hits

1468
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: that you know, he might suffer physical consequences. Right, he

1469
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: sacked seven times the other day, probably hit another three

1470
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: to five more times, some of them violent hits. The

1471
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: good news for Josh Ellen and he's big and strong

1472
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: and well put together. He can't sustain them all. But

1473
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: I don't get I get the sense from mcdermot's answer

1474
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 1: that he's aware of the risk that they're taking with him,

1475
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: but they're prepared to take that in order to enhance

1476
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Speaker 1: his development. Yeah, you got to be ready to do that.

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01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: And plus, let's face it, I mean, this is a

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: league about protecting quarterbacks anyway, So he's probably better off

1479
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: than a lot of quarterbacks have been in the past.

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01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: I think he needs rep after rep after rep. He

1481
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: needs to get stuff on films so he can go

1482
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: back and look at it critically and say, what did

1483
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: I see? What did I think I see? And what

1484
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: actually happened? And where should I have thrown it? What

1485
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: should I have done pre snap? What call should I

1486
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: have made? All this stuff goes into it and it

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01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: means so much more when he can actually go back

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: and remember that he's that guy on the film and

1489
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: what he was thinking. It's not so effective when he's

1490
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: watching Nate Peterman in there telling you what he was

1491
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: thinking on that films. It's different and it's more valuable

1492
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: to Josh for him to be the guy on the field,

1493
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: no matter how what situation is in the game, no

1494
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: matter how far up or how far down they are.

1495
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: It's imperative to me that he's the guy on the

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01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: field taking the snaps and learning from every rep that

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Speaker 1: he gets. All Right, Hey, we got a special guest

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: coming up with surprise guests, Eric Wood, longtime Bill cent

1499
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: are going to join us in a couple of minutes

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: to talk about the Bills where they're at Buffalo's offensive

1501
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: line place. Eric Woods going to join us at a moment.

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01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: I want to salute at this point the ad Pro

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Speaker 1: Odessa Montur last week. The high School Coaches of the

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Speaker 1: Week presented by ad Pro Sports. Steve and I back

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01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: with Moore. One goes line from One Goals Drive on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, John Murphy and Steam Tasker. We're the

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: halfway mark of One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: From One Bill's Drive, we go to three o'clock today.

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: We got a good we have always good guests. Ron

1522
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: McDole is going to join us in studio at two o'clock.

1523
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: The Dancing Bear. He's got a book. What do you know,

1524
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: It's called The Dancing Bear. We'll talk with Ron mcdoel.

1525
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: He's in town for a couple of days. We'll have

1526
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: a couple of book signings. We'll talk with him about

1527
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,959
Speaker 1: his career with Buffalo, played in a Super Bowl with Washington.

1528
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: He's got some great stories to Ron mcdoe coming up

1529
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: at two o'clock today. I'm looking forward to talking with him.

1530
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: Look forward to talking to our next guest. He's been

1531
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: a regular contributor to the show, among other things. Eric

1532
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: Wood ended his NFL career this past year and now

1533
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: he's kind of dipping his toe in the media water.

1534
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: Were happening to him on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: right now, Eric Wood, longtime Bill Center, Hi, Eric, John

1536
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve here and Buffalo. How you doing good?

1537
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for me? Yeah, great to have you. You write

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: a regular what weekly column now for the Athletic the

1539
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: great website The Atlantic. How's that going for you? It's cool. Well,

1540
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: it's been fun. It gives me a purpose in watching

1541
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: the game Sundays to prepare a call them earlier the

1542
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: next week. And I've enjoyed doing it. It's been a

1543
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: good experience, and I've had awesome feedback from people on

1544
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: Twitter and some other media outlets around the country reaching out.

1545
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: When do you write Eric on Mondays? I'll knock it

1546
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: out and it'll be generally bills based but you know

1547
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: this weekend, the way of the Bills game kind of

1548
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: wine and then the Earl Thomas middle finger incident gave

1549
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to stay away from, you know, the

1550
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Bills game this week and hop on that and some

1551
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: injury related holding out related topics. Yeah, I do want

1552
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: to ask you about those topics you wrote about, but

1553
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: I have one Bill's question. Seem I have one as well.

1554
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: So when rough game for the Bills, seven sacks, and

1555
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: when we hear coaches and others say, well, it's not

1556
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: just the offensive line. What else goes into the creation

1557
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: of a sack or the surrender of a sack? What

1558
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: else could it be besides offensive line play from your

1559
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: perspective offensive line perspective, Yeah, a lot goes into a sack.

1560
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, it could be receivers not getting open. It

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01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: could be the quarterback not recognizing a list, not getting

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: it out on time. And then you know, ultimately there

1563
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: are sacks that are credited to the offensive line. It

1564
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: could be a running backer, tight end and protection as well.

1565
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: So there's a lot that goes into it. But seven

1566
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: sacks is never what you're looking for in a game.

1567
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: Way too many negative players coming from a game, but

1568
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: when you look at it, most of the game they're

1569
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: coming from behind, they have to throw the ball a

1570
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: lot more. You know, very few runs calling in the game,

1571
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: so those numbers are too high for the Bills. Yeah,

1572
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: one of the things, And I don't know how much

1573
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: of the game you saw, it looked to me like

1574
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: there was a couple of times when they just had

1575
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: the protection set wrong, and a lot of times that

1576
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: can be both on the quarterback end on the position

1577
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: you played, the center. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I watched

1578
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 1: the whole game Sunday and then watched it back, and

1579
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, if it was last year's offense, I would

1580
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: have been able to really telling you who's the blame

1581
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: on each play when I saw sax, just being so

1582
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: familiar with it. There's sometimes now where I don't know,

1583
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: if you know, the old line should have taken over

1584
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: that protection, if it's Josh Allen who should have redirected

1585
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: the line, or if it's simply someone Josh was supposed

1586
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: to throw hot off of and feet to throw with.

1587
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: But when I saw what you saw it, you know,

1588
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: struggling with some blitz concepts that in the past we

1589
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: hadn't always struggled with. But like I said, when you

1590
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: get down in the game, sometimes Green Bay can do

1591
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: some things defensively that you might not have expected because

1592
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: they're digging pretty deep in their playbook. You then look

1593
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: like Mike Petton defense that you may have been familiar

1594
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: with that Josh Ellen was going up against Sunday. Yeah.

1595
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 1: I used to have a lot of fun with Mike Petton,

1596
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: and I've always prided myself on being very prepared, and

1597
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, especially when I got to control the snap

1598
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: count myself on the road, I would have a lot

1599
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: of fun with an opposing defensive coordinator trying to really

1600
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: figure out what they're trying to do, get our old

1601
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: line to get there, really use up as little of

1602
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: the running backs and protection as I could. And me

1603
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: and Patton when he came to the Bills, we had

1604
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: we had a good relationship. We had a mutual respect

1605
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: from when he was with the Jets and then he

1606
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: came over to Buffalo and you know, he uh he

1607
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: name the Blitz after me. One day in practice he

1608
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: said this was called the wood Blitz because he's not

1609
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: ever going to figuring it out. And he got me

1610
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: with it that day, which which hurt because I didn't

1611
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly when it was coming, and then

1612
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: it happened one play and he got me. But uh,

1613
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: Petton's a great defensive coordinator, very creative. Comes from the

1614
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Rex Ryans tree, so you kind of get guys coming

1615
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: from everywhere. Eric, I want to ask you about one

1616
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: of the articles you wrote having to do with these

1617
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: guys that, like levy on Bell about Earl Thomas, the

1618
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: guys who are kind of holding out are in a

1619
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: tough spot that they feel that they're not getting compensated

1620
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: the way they should, and rather than hold out, they

1621
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe coaxed back to play, or maybe hold

1622
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: out for a while and then come back like Levy

1623
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: on Bell's gonna do. But uh, certainly Earl tom Us

1624
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: and the way he was carried off the field on

1625
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: a cart the other night and his gesture towards his

1626
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: own sideline, there's a lot of stuff in play here

1627
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: and you speak to that in your article. Why don't

1628
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: you tell us your point of view about these players

1629
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: who want to get paid and have no other leverage

1630
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: other than to hold out or to play and hope

1631
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: for the best. Yeah, you know, truthfully, I see both

1632
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: sides of the story. And I was a union rep

1633
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: with the Bills. I'm pro players, you know at all times,

1634
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: but I do see both ends of the spectrum. The

1635
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: teams are saying, hey, you sign this contract, you know,

1636
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: honor it. And then you have the players saying, look,

1637
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: you could cut me at any time. Yes, this is

1638
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: a contract, but it's only binding on by end. So

1639
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: I see, you know, I understand the frustration Earl Thomas had.

1640
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: You know, I did that Lake break in twenty sixteen

1641
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: with one year left on my deal in Buffalo. This

1642
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: past year coming up, and you know in the article

1643
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: I talk a little bit about you know, last year,

1644
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: we didn't strongly consider it, and it's not something I

1645
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: would have ever done, just with my relationship with the

1646
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: team and the reputation I had in Buffalo, would have

1647
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: been very detrimental for me to hold out on a

1648
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: training camp. Plus with my position as a center, I'm

1649
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: kind of running the show as a leader new coaching staff.

1650
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: There were was a lot of things that went into

1651
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: There's not any way I was going to hold out,

1652
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: but you know, we started going through a contract negotiation

1653
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: and training camp, and there were days I walked out

1654
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: in the field after turning down a pretty significant contract extension,

1655
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: hoping for more thinking. Man, I just really hope I

1656
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: don't break my leg or tear my ACL today, because

1657
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: that's all off the window. Eric. I get what you're saying,

1658
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: and I get Earl Thomas being upset, and yes, he's

1659
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: in a bad spot contractually, But when you're in a

1660
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: stadium with sixty five seventy thousand people with national television

1661
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: cameras on you, it is not right to flip the

1662
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: bird to give the middle finger salute, just as it

1663
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: wasn't right a couple of weeks ago for Isaiah crowe

1664
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: Owl to do that the Jets running back in Cleveland

1665
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: who pretended to make a move with the football and

1666
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: flash it at the crowd in Cleveland where he used

1667
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: to play, if for nothing else. And I know it

1668
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: sounds maybe trait, but they're little kids watching. They think

1669
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: that's appropriate behavior. Now, yes, no, what do you think? No,

1670
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. I would look

1671
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: pretty bad walking into my next FCA board meeting room

1672
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: if they saw me flip a bird a national TV.

1673
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: But in the same sense, if they heard some of

1674
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the things I said on Sundays in fits of rage.

1675
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't be too proud of me either. But

1676
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: but that's not naturally broadcast though his finger was for sure. Yeah,

1677
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: and I don't support that, and you know, I'm sure

1678
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: he regrets it as well. And you know that's that's

1679
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: something now he'll be known for throughout the remainder of

1680
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: his career is the one middle fingering flip. And that's why,

1681
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's an important lesson for kids. Now, Hey,

1682
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: you can do one thing and ruin your reputation or

1683
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, negatively affect your reputation for the rest of

1684
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: your life one one bad decision. So you really have

1685
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,480
Speaker 1: to be you know, even you could say the frustration

1686
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: filth and you know you're you're in an emotional state

1687
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: during a game, especially after injury. But um no, I'm

1688
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: with you, John, it's it's a bad look for the league,

1689
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: for the player, and I'm with you. There are so

1690
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: many kids watching. It's it's sending the wrong message. Yeah,

1691
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I agree with Eric, And it

1692
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: is unfortunate that that for a lot of people outside

1693
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: of Seattle, that's gonna be the way and what they

1694
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: know about Eric, I mean, that's what they're gonna know

1695
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: about Earl Thomallens. They don't. They won't know anything else

1696
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: that he was in the middle of a contract dispute

1697
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: that he would had come back and played under a

1698
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: contract that at the time he signed it was the

1699
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: best one in the league, and it grew outdated very quickly,

1700
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: and he wanted out of it and couldn't get out

1701
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: of it. And but the only thing they're gonna care

1702
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: about is the is the gesture he made as he

1703
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: as he got carted off the field, maybe for the

1704
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: last time as a Seahawk. But um, you had some

1705
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: really great insights, uh. And you would also, like you said,

1706
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned a moment ago, you were in that same

1707
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: position you were gonna sign a contract extension. You hadn't

1708
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: done it yet, and yet you were still trying to

1709
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: play and continue your career as normal without the contract extension.

1710
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: And there was a significant amount of money at stake,

1711
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: for sure. And it's there's some sleepless nights in training

1712
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: camp when you know how much money you're turning down

1713
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: because it's not fair market yet, and then you got

1714
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: to go out and practice next morning, and there's guys

1715
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: falling on the ground around you and you don't know

1716
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: when the next ankle tweak is coming and what that

1717
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: can possibly affect you. And I mentioned it in the article.

1718
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: I've signed my contract right before a third preseason game

1719
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: in my uniform in Sean mcdermot's office, and then I

1720
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: go out during the game against the Ravens and separated

1721
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: my shoulder. And you know, it probably wouldn't affected anything,

1722
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: but they could have held it over my head if

1723
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: we would have turned that one down and then rode

1724
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 1: it into the last week of the preseason. You know,

1725
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: I could be sitting there and they're saying, well, look,

1726
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: we will know what's up with your shoulder going in

1727
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: the next week. Let's let's hold off on our end.

1728
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Now I get it. I understand that. Er. Can I

1729
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 1: ask you more bills question? If you were here and

1730
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: you're in a meeting room and they say, Eric, we

1731
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: got to start running the football. What should we do?

1732
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: What would you tell them? Oh? Man, you know they've

1733
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: had some great runs so far this year, and they

1734
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: you know, they got a new scheme, and you know

1735
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: last year we were kind of wide zone to start

1736
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: the year and then we got back to some inside

1737
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: zone and power game that kind of got us going

1738
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know, I think with this group,

1739
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: that's what they're kind of used to, and that's more

1740
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: shady excels and maybe you get back to some more

1741
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: of that. You know, at times, I've really liked how

1742
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: quickly Chris Ivory's getting downhill continue those types of runs.

1743
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: But you know, I think a big part of the

1744
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: run game right now is not digging yourself in early

1745
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: holes in these games. You know, they're they're playing the

1746
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: whole second half in a pretty pretty much a hurry

1747
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: up offense trying to get back in these games, which

1748
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: just really excused the rushing numbers and should skew the

1749
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: passing numbers. But we're still thirty second in the league

1750
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: in passing, so um, you know, they're still trying to

1751
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: find their footing and with a new OC and a

1752
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: lot of the turnover on offense, Um, we knew that

1753
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: the defense was going to have to carry us early

1754
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: on in the season and hopefully the offense will catch

1755
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a stride here. All right, Hey, Eric,

1756
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: thanks for this, We appreciate it. We know a short notice.

1757
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for being with us. Absolutely my pleasure, guys.

1758
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: Thanks Eric Wood, longtime Bill Center, writes for the Athletic website.

1759
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 1: Gonna do a little broadcasting as the season moves along.

1760
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: I think I saw where he's planning on coming up

1761
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: this weekend for the Bills game to be up there.

1762
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo were going to lead the charges. He oh, yes,

1763
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: that's what. We didn't even ask him about that. Leader

1764
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: of the charge. You think, why don't you ask him?

1765
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it until the charge. He's gonna

1766
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: lead the charge and a huge ovation. He should, he should.

1767
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: He was a great player for the Bills for his

1768
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: entire career and would still be there. Yeah, had it

1769
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: not been for an injury. Yeah, Leader of the charge

1770
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 1: and sent I totally forgot about that. Eric John just

1771
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline presented by Subway Restaurants,

1772
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: proud to be locally owned and operated. We got McDonald

1773
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: coming up at two. Steve and I back with more

1774
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: in a moment. One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health

1775
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

1776
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. John Murphy's steam Tatcher. We've

1777
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: got the Ron mcdonal's standingbody's going to join this right

1778
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: after two o'clock written a book, The Dancing Bear, My

1779
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: eighteen Years in the Trenches of the AFL and the NFL.

1780
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: Ron McDonald was an important figure in the nineteen sixties bills.

1781
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: Steve he was going to a FL All Star Games.

1782
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: He was a big part of that great defense. And

1783
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited that he's coming in here. He's in town

1784
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: for a couple of days for a book sign him

1785
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to talking with this. We just said hide

1786
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: to him out in the lobby. Hey, this came up

1787
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: this week. This Doug Marone, right, always seems to find

1788
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: his way into issues like this. The Jaguars, the Jets,

1789
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: Jags one leading late in the game, they went for

1790
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: two points after t J Yellnin's one yard touchdown run

1791
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: on fourth down twenty five seconds left. Jaguars went for

1792
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: two points up nineteen up by nineteen seconds late. Well,

1793
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: Maron was asked about it yesterday. Here's what the head coach,

1794
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: Doug Marron or the Jacksonville Jaguars, said about his decision,

1795
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: and he said he was angry that anyone would think

1796
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: he was trying to run it up. Here's what Doug

1797
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: Maron said. We said, Hey, if we score, it's gonna

1798
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: be nineteen. This is way before we're gonna go for two.

1799
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: So when we scored, it was just natural for me

1800
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: to go for two. And what is me off? Honestly,

1801
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: people that do know me know how much I respect

1802
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: the game and I have a ton of respect for

1803
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Coach Bowls and Mike mccagne is one of my good friends.

1804
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: And whatever happened in the past or the past, that

1805
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the people or the game itself.

1806
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: That's on the field. So for me, that's exactly what happened, right,

1807
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: wrong or different. And I would never do anything, you

1808
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying like that. I just wouldn't because

1809
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I respect the game too much. It has nothing to

1810
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: do with you know, any other crap that people bring

1811
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: up would be why not just keep doing one? Though?

1812
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: I tell you this, when you're when you're on uh,

1813
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: when you change and you go upstairs and and we

1814
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: have all that stuff. It's just it's just what we

1815
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: normally have always done. I mean, it never even came.

1816
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: It was like two. We said too, we're going for two,

1817
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: and that was it to be twenty one. You know,

1818
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: if we don't score, I mean, you know, hey, the

1819
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: odds of winning the game. Yeah, I could understand that,

1820
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, if I had to do it all over

1821
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: and I knew this was going to happen. Yeah, I

1822
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: wish someone would have said something, because the one thing

1823
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to do is get my you know,

1824
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: my character attacked, which happens, happened in the past, and

1825
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: it happens again. Well, here's the thing, here's what all

1826
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 1: that was about. The thought was that Doug Morone thought

1827
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: he was going to be the Jets head coach and

1828
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: then did not get to be the head coach of

1829
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: the Jets. And the question was was he trying to

1830
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: rub the jets noses in that as coach of the

1831
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: Jaguars and go for two? I doubt that happened. What

1832
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: I doubt that happened. Why? I think it was just

1833
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: like he said, we're gonna go for two, and they

1834
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: decided they're gonna do that early on, and then they

1835
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: just kept it there and they'd already told him coaches

1836
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: make those calls on the fly in seconds. Yeah. I

1837
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: don't know, No, I don't he's listening. Going for two

1838
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: is hardly rubbing somebody's nose. Have you met Doug? I

1839
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: liked Doug too. I talked him with the combine every year.

1840
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: I get along with him. But yeah, I would think

1841
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: he would carry a grudge like that what happened with him,

1842
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: You know what, I think it out on him just

1843
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I think, perfect, You know what,

1844
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: I think it's more likely, you know what, I think,

1845
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: it's more likely. He's got a head coach up he's

1846
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: got a hit. He's got a general manager president of

1847
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: the company upstairs in Tom Coughlin, who does stuff like that.

1848
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: And he probably got an answer to Tom about why

1849
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: he didn't go for two in a nineteen point lead

1850
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: where there's twenty five seconds left or not. I think

1851
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: it had more to do with him have to answer

1852
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: to Tom Coughlin than it did. Well, why would Coughlin

1853
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: want them to go for two? Because Tom buy the book?

1854
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: What book? What? The book says to go for two

1855
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: when you're up that by that amount, to get up

1856
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: for by three scores, look at the clock matter and matters.

1857
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: Of course it matters. Now, I think I do think

1858
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: he had a little uh moment when he got a

1859
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: chance to rub their nose in a little bit, and

1860
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: he took it. That's the way, Doug is I believe,

1861
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I do believe that. Hey, when we come back, Ron

1862
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: mctill's going to join us, the author of the book

1863
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: The Dancing Bear, My eighteen years in the trenches of

1864
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: the AFL and the NFL, of course, many of those

1865
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: great years right here with the Buffalo Bill. He's going

1866
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: to join this live in studio when we return. Command

1867
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: back for that One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health,

1868
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker from One Bill's Drive and

1869
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Hills Radio Network Story day

1870
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. Back to work for the

1871
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Bills this week. Coaching staff today trying to figure out

1872
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: how to get the offense going. Head coach Sean McDermot

1873
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: said yesterday the offense was not good enough at all

1874
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: in the laws at Green Bay two days ago. McDermott

1875
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,799
Speaker 1: says the inability of the Buffalo offensive line to establish

1876
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage one of the big problems he

1877
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: encountered in the loss of the Packers. Bills with some

1878
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 1: injury concerns. Micah Hyde gonna be week to week with

1879
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: a groin injury he suffered on Sunday. Bill signed a

1880
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 1: corner today. Dante Johnson, who's got some experience a couple

1881
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: of years with the San Francisco forty nine ers, worked

1882
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: out for the Bills yesterday, signed today with the Buffalo Bills.

1883
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Dante Johnson six two, two hundred pound cornerback in his

1884
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: fifth year in the league. He played at North Carolina State.

1885
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: He was added to the roster and the Bills released

1886
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: defensive end Nate Orchard to make room. Dante Johnson now

1887
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. The NFL released stats today. Through

1888
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,839
Speaker 1: four weeks, football fans have been treated to a deluge

1889
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: of high scoring games, including a number of passing touchdowns.

1890
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 1: According to NFL research, there have been two hundred twenty

1891
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: eight passing touchdowns in the first four weeks of the season,

1892
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: the most in the Super Bowl era. Patrick Mahomes tacked

1893
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: on his share yesterday. He brought Kansas City back from

1894
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: a ten point fourth quarter defensit to keep their undefeated

1895
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 1: season alive. They are four and oh after a twenty

1896
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: seven twenty three win over the Broccos in Monday Night

1897
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Football last night in Denver. Steelers running back Labyon Bell

1898
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: tells ESPN he is going to play football this year

1899
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: and does not expect to be traded that despite the

1900
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: fact that the Steelers say they're exploring trade options for Bell.

1901
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: Bell says he hopes that he'll still get a long

1902
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: term contract, but a source says Bell is expected to

1903
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: report during the week seven week eight time frame the

1904
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Steelers on a buy in Week seven. Sabers opening night

1905
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 1: roster is due by five. Jam Today made some moves

1906
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: yesterday as signing Alexander Nilander, Brendan Gooley, and Brandon Hickey

1907
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: to Rochester and what they're likely to be the final cuts.

1908
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: The season opens up on Thursday, the Sabers home against

1909
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: the Boston Bruins and Major League Baseball playoffs tonight. The

1910
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: wild Card Round starts tonight the Rockies, and the comes

1911
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock tonight on ESPN. And that's the update

1912
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our

1913
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: One Buffalo studio, we have a very special guest. We're

1914
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 1: happy to welcome him back to Buffalo, longtime Buffalo Bill

1915
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: and Washington Redskins defensive linement, the author of the book

1916
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: The Dancing Bear, My eighteen Years in the Trenches of

1917
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: the American Football League in the National Football League. Happy

1918
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: to welcome the great Ron mcdol back to Buffalo. Ron,

1919
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Bye. We appreciate it. Thank you been

1920
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: a pleasure man. You are here for the weekend, right,

1921
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: you gotta come stuff and us is there alumni weekend.

1922
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to mating. Say a lot of

1923
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: the guys that sure I played with, and so it's

1924
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: good to be good bye and god saying, but I

1925
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,560
Speaker 1: played enough. Yeah, yeah, you come back to town and

1926
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 1: traps around this place and you played in the It's

1927
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 1: interesting you played in the first game here at the

1928
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: new air of field back then it was rich Stadium. Yea.

1929
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: And but you were playing for Washington at that time, right,

1930
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: you had played at the rock Pile your entire career here,

1931
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: went to Washington, came back as remember their skins right

1932
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: here in the first game here. Yeah. I was very fortunate.

1933
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Ralph Wilson always took care of me. Believe it or not.

1934
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 1: It seems like you know I when I was trying

1935
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: to get started in the league here many years ago,

1936
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 1: when I was with the Carter, he gave me a

1937
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: job and I had a lot of problems of migraine situation,

1938
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: and everybody and then they just blackballed me in the

1939
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: league so that no one would touch Man. So Ralph

1940
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: well Lou Lou Saban called me on the phone because

1941
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: I played against the Buffalo Bills when I was with

1942
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: the Oilers at that time, and they kind I got

1943
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: got to get playing against San Diego and ended up

1944
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: with a migraine seizure deal and they didn't know what

1945
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: we were wrong with Man and I spent more times

1946
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 1: with wires on my brain and anything else. And uh,

1947
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: he called me up in the phone when I got

1948
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: h while I actually went by Minnesota for the training

1949
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: camp and Van Brocklin, I mean he didn't even know,

1950
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: he didn't even I never played on the special teams

1951
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,879
Speaker 1: there anything in the start, and so then they released

1952
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: me and I uh Luke called me up on the

1953
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: phone and said, if we could if we could get

1954
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: a another good of course I played against them and

1955
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 1: I played all the line positions. Didn't make different was

1956
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: offensive defense. And he said, he said, if we can

1957
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: get another if we can get another group defensive lineman,

1958
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: a good one, he says, we can win the championship

1959
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: in the AFL. And I kind of said, I said, uh,

1960
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I says, I think i'd believe you

1961
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: if you're talking about a quarterback. But I said, I'm

1962
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: a defensive life. He was right, he said, no, that's

1963
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: not a problem. He says, you can play and you

1964
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 1: can help us. We need players. No matter what you

1965
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: played on that defensive line, you had done away right.

1966
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 1: You had Tom Day and Tom says that that's about

1967
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: as good as it gets even now. Oh, it was

1968
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: a great drunk a bunch of guys and we did

1969
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: very well. And uh, it was just the right place

1970
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: at the right time. So when you come back, So

1971
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,839
Speaker 1: when you come back to to Buffalo now, the city's

1972
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: vastly different than it was. Yea, And I tell people

1973
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I played in the rock pile too, but I played

1974
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: charity softball. You played when it was when it was

1975
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: a real football, stating, yeah, it was really damn it was.

1976
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: It was just as I say, it was amazing and we, uh,

1977
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: it seemed like we couldn't do anything wrong at the beginning,

1978
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:59,919
Speaker 1: and then as we worked away through every year, every situation,

1979
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: and then Lou would make moves that helped hid Like

1980
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: he moved Tom Bay over the defensive end and then

1981
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: moved me to the other defensive end, and he told

1982
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: us that there are our jobs as long as we

1983
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: kept him, and we never lost him. So yeah, that

1984
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: was the big thing. So with Ron mcdold, his book

1985
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: is The Dancing Bear, chronicling his time in the AFL

1986
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: with the Bills, in the NFL with Washington. Uh Steve

1987
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: mentioned War Memorial City him and I went to games

1988
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: there as a kid. You tell a great story in

1989
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: the book about pigeons who showed up one day and

1990
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: how the Bill tried to get rid of him. Can

1991
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: you tell us that story? Oh yeah, that was a

1992
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: fun thing. That's what the book was about. Is that.

1993
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: A friend of mine, Mark, who helped helped write over

1994
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: him him. He he said, I said, I'm my daughter

1995
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: had a lot to do about it. And he said,

1996
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: I said, I really don't want to write a book.

1997
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: I says everybody ivery time I did, everybody ask you

1998
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: about O J whatever on you didn't. I don't want

1999
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: to get in that kind of situation. And so he says, no,

2000
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. A lot of people

2001
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: don't realize what the AFL was like and what the

2002
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 1: NFL was. There was a lot of difference. I mean,

2003
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: we had you know, pigeons on the field type of

2004
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: like with that type of thing. We had roommates. Everybody said, well,

2005
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: that's not too about the air, but I said, just

2006
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: keeping track of the roommate. There was a big problem.

2007
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: And we traveled. We traveled like a basketball team because

2008
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 1: they booked the game so that when we if we

2009
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: went to California the area to play, we'd end up

2010
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 1: playing everybody in a row three one year we played

2011
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: five teams. You know, we went to Oakland, San Diego, Denver, uh,

2012
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 1: Houston and home. And they didn't know your kids. They

2013
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: just had to travel around. That type of thing. You know.

2014
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: He was played card most of the time on airplane

2015
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: and because they give you a pretty the money the

2016
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: used during the week, which you're going to be there

2017
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: all week and that town, and then what happened is

2018
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: that you'll be broke trying to get home. It's playing cards.

2019
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: And then they didn't everything go with eat. We'd have

2020
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: to borrow money from teammates or whatever pigeons to kill

2021
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: them somehow or what did they do? Well, what they

2022
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: did is we had a problem with the birds driving

2023
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: us nuts. We had crazy things go on like uh

2024
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: uh like Jack Jack he would say, we practiced in

2025
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: the armory there one a couple of times, type of thing,

2026
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: and he tells his receivers, Now I have to realize

2027
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 1: this is the national football and you have to tell

2028
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: his receiver as well. Get down to the tank and

2029
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: turn left. Now hit you buy the jeep on the right.

2030
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,560
Speaker 1: You know. That was kind of how we practiced, and

2031
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: we found a lot of things. Get on a bus

2032
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: and drive around looking for a place to practice. That's

2033
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: what you do when you found the place. I remember

2034
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: McGuire uh Ralsh would get so Madam McGuire he to

2035
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 1: get out and take the bag of footballs the pond

2036
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 1: all the time, and then he just punt them all

2037
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: over to the kids in the park where we were at.

2038
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: We didn't anything to play with. Then we leave. That

2039
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: was it. There was a lot of crazy things like that,

2040
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: do you know what I like? And you played obviously

2041
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: in the AFIL, the back to back AFL championship teams

2042
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: with the Bills in the mid sixties. And when you

2043
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: wrote about that team, you said there were no stars.

2044
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: There were names, but he said everybody sort of took

2045
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: turns starring. It's right. I mean, we just was amazing

2046
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: when you had the players like Warlick and all the

2047
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: guys we had mentioned at a fantastic Cookie guild. Christ

2048
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: he didn't know if he's gonna show up or not,

2049
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: that the type of thing, but he did and then

2050
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: did do those things. And uh, we were just able.

2051
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 1: It seemed like we always made the right move. I mean,

2052
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: and of course that is uh Saban's big thing, and

2053
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 1: uh it was we just happened to make right moods

2054
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: at the right time, and so we thought we could

2055
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: do it all. But eventually we just couldn't get by

2056
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: those that key game I talk a little bit about.

2057
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask you about your relationship with the

2058
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: fans and the fans and the team back in the

2059
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and and well it was that like it

2060
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: was great. I mean, the fans were always great, but

2061
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 1: we had we had to work around a lot of things.

2062
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: You know, we had Remember we used to park They

2063
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: let us park our cars in their yards and stuff

2064
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: and things like that. But they didn't tell you they

2065
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: were going to steal anything. I'm in George a roommate

2066
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: when you're it was Christmas time Towards the other they

2067
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: stole a brand new jacket he had he bought, you know,

2068
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: that type of thing. But uh, there was those type

2069
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: of things that a little along and uh they biggod

2070
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: ride on you pretty good. They'd stay on you. And so, uh,

2071
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: then we had the thing that you were mentioned about

2072
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: the birds. And then we had there was a situation

2073
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 1: where Jack but we had we didn't. We were posted

2074
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: to level the infield, you know, the pitchers mount, and

2075
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 1: we never did that. And so when people would come

2076
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: into playoffs, Jack was always stolen the ball. He'd hit

2077
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: the guys over there because the mound created a hill.

2078
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: And so when you're trying to run back, run backwards

2079
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: or the left to catch a ball, you can't keep

2080
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: your balance and people would fall down and they start

2081
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 1: bitching about that. I said, hey, the fields, the field,

2082
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: you know what, leave the pictures on it. Yeah, we

2083
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: leave it on or so and they got and the

2084
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: defensive back at all the time trying to cover somebody.

2085
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: Ron Niccold talking about his book The Dancing Beer here

2086
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: on one of the there's a lot of the book

2087
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: about the Halloween parties that you and the Bill's head.

2088
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your house, Yeah, yeah, I bought an old

2089
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 1: brewery over there. And eat in New York Swiecart Brewery

2090
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: brewer and old. Yeah, it was an old you know,

2091
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 1: no eighteen twelve or something, Swiecart Brewery and it's it's

2092
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: still there. We remodeled that. I was in the alb

2093
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Miller and I were in the h building business. Uh

2094
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: and uh. Anyway, I remodeled it for the family and

2095
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: that one and the barns or anything else, and so

2096
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 1: we'd have we'd started to have a Halloween party one year,

2097
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: and we had to schedule it so you didn't it

2098
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 1: didn't end up on the night before the game or

2099
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 1: something like that, because you had to get these crazy

2100
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: everybody to do the Halloween and it would take the offense. Uh.

2101
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 1: One year would be the would pick the band or

2102
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: the group that would come and entertain, and then then

2103
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: would switch it over to you know, the defense type

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01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: of thing, and so everybody would eventually come over. Main way,

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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: I had another old house, and so mainly I had

2106
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: the old houses to have the party, and and everybody drucks,

2107
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean Jack Hemp dress up and these on crazy

2108
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: outfits and and and everybody it was like no one

2109
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 1: didn't Joe O'Donnell, he'd be in a ladies outfit and

2110
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. So it was really successful. And

2111
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: the good thing about it was that it was kind

2112
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: of something that we kind of really needed it because

2113
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 1: normally order November that part of the counter you've been

2114
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: running pretty hard on the field and kind of take

2115
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 1: the edge. Yes, it gave you a big break, and

2116
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 1: everybody accepted it that way. There's no one was allowed

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01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 1: to come except the players. Yeah, there was no bye

2118
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: week back then. You week after week after you just

2119
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: how many preseason games did you play back then as well? Uh,

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01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: normally we played pretty well the same amount. It was

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01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: like six games, was it. Well, yeah, you could play

2122
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: in six games. They changed things around sometimes, did they. Yeah,

2123
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: And uh it was Uh, it didn't really be that.

2124
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't that much of the thing. I think the

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01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: hardest part was this, uh keep going and keep from

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01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: getting hurt and stayed stay in shape the best way

2127
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: you can and that type of thing. And h you

2128
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 1: you started out working that way, you thought that way,

2129
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: your minded. Like me, I never officially other than my

2130
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 1: head problem, I never got hurt, I never got I

2131
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: never broke anything. You know, poor Abramowski had had anything

2132
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: to do big product all about to him. He used

2133
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 1: very little table in me. This status in the book,

2134
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: and this blows me away. Your defensive tackle, interior defensive linement.

2135
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: And you had twelve or you say thirteen. The record

2136
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: book says twelve interceptions. How does the defensive tackle get

2137
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 1: thirteen interceptions? Well, well, the first thing you do is

2138
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 1: you work at things. You know, so many people young

2139
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: at that age and that time we were all playing

2140
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys. You know, you have to attack,

2141
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: and to the fact that everybody's out there to knock

2142
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 1: at each other head off one day or another, but

2143
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: you always want to. I ran all the time. I

2144
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,439
Speaker 1: just figured run run, run, run, run, run, run, run

2145
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: across the field, run back to the field. But all

2146
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And you didn't make those stupid

2147
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: mistakes like jumping off sides. You know, you know all

2148
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 1: the penalties that are involved, and of course that was

2149
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: really terrible working with George Allen. Well, you don't even

2150
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 1: think about doing something wrong or making a mistake that

2151
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: would cost him five yards and that type of thing.

2152
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: So you just concentrate on certain things and figure out

2153
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 1: how you can do it. I mean, you know, if

2154
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: you if the guy's supposed to block. It runs away

2155
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: with it runs away from you. You better guards chasing him.

2156
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: So many people stand and watch you played special teams.

2157
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: Would you say fifteen blocked field goals in your Career's

2158
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of well, Marvel Leavy when he joined us

2159
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 1: and watching it. Marve was savior for me because he

2160
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 1: was he was our special team coach. So we worked

2161
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: every all week long. He would break the films down,

2162
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: and I mean he worked on the field with us,

2163
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: but he would break the films down in his time

2164
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 1: and then I I would get the films on Tuesday

2165
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 1: or Wednesday. We had to day maybe whatever day it was,

2166
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 1: and we had agree on it, and then we sat

2167
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: and go over the films and we just doesntate, uh

2168
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 1: where where the we could add attack a groove or

2169
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: one of the favorite places between the between the guards

2170
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: and the center and you could overload one of the

2171
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 1: other sides and get a help from the other side

2172
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: and he could get through and get through there and

2173
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: block kicks. It's a great way to make a living.

2174
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: That's what we get it wrong. And hey, that's right,

2175
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: George jump I blocked. I don't know which one I was.

2176
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 1: The moment about my stuck a third kit uh with him.

2177
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: I blocked most I blocked a lott of mirror. But

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01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: he said something to me about we start started to

2179
01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 1: sere the year off and he said, he says, you know,

2180
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 1: you got an act to get those things out. The

2181
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 1: ball was blocked on all that kind of stuff. And

2182
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: I said, ah, you gonna pay for things like that.

2183
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: George was the type of guy he says, hey, I'll

2184
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: pay you. So that was the beginning of the year.

2185
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 1: And in our first game I blocked the first kick

2186
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: and uh a field goal, and so then I blocked

2187
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 1: another one two weeks later. I gaus it was and

2188
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 1: he was We're out practice, and he always he used

2189
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: to come out and while around and talk to you.

2190
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: You tried to avoid him because he drive you nuts.

2191
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 1: He just talked to you about football, football, football and everything.

2192
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: He was a big sportsman. He knew who who led

2193
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 1: the league in batting, who did it, who's the best boxer,

2194
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, and they drive you nuts.

2195
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: So he was talking. So he's always trying to give

2196
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 1: me a pep talk type of thing, you know, and

2197
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: you gotta if you yeah, you gotta. I got like

2198
01:48:56,120 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: a pen attention. So they said, he come around moment

2199
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: long us and they said, well, you go off to

2200
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,440
Speaker 1: a great start this year. We've got we're doing fantastics

2201
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: is great. And he says, I know it's about the

2202
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: third or fourth game maymen where he said he says,

2203
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: he says, you're off to help step. He says, do

2204
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: you realize you've got three interceptions? We'll say I'd put

2205
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 1: a clause that past season. He put a clause in

2206
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 1: my contract five thousand dollars for every block field goal.

2207
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: I say, can kick. So I said to him, I says,

2208
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: he was telling me how great it wasn't ever and

2209
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: we got to keep that up. I said, yeah, I know,

2210
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: as long as you keep paying me my five thousand dollars.

2211
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 1: He said, don't worry about that. I'll bet you're here

2212
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. And so that's how I made money.

2213
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's how you do it. I mean

2214
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: you try to do it. Block kicks classes and no

2215
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: matter what it was, there's a lot of things you

2216
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 1: could do though. It's very simple. And the book is

2217
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,680
Speaker 1: called The Dancing Bear. Where did that nickname come from?

2218
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 1: Who called you? That? Actually came from Jergerson Son J Yeah, well,

2219
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, like anything else, we'd spend our time in

2220
01:49:56,120 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Georgetown and Washton and Standpoint and for the nightlife. Yeah,

2221
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 1: we just chuck dings out. But yeah, sure, but anyway,

2222
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: we h one night we don't know, and he said

2223
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 1: he could dance on the um one of those little

2224
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: cocktail tables like you stand the bar anything out And

2225
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: he said I can dance. I said, I you can't

2226
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: now dance me? And I had no idea. I'm good

2227
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: hugging if I could dance or not, but I knew

2228
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: I could move faster and the good anyway. Uh so

2229
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: he fell off, so I won, and so he started

2230
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: calling me, you know, the Dancing Bear. I'm just stuck. Yeah.

2231
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: And then when he got into the golf season type

2232
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: of thing and in the off season, uh, it stuck.

2233
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 1: And so that's basically where that comes. Here, you go,

2234
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: it's a great nickname Heron, It's it's a great book.

2235
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: I've gone through it a lot over the last few days,

2236
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be signing it around town, including tonight

2237
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 1: at the Buffalo History Museum starting tonight from six pm

2238
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 1: to eight pm. The Dancing Bear in my eighteen years

2239
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 1: in the trenches of the AFL and NFL. And then uh, Thursday,

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01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be at Danny South right across street here

2241
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: on Abbot Road in Orchard Park, five pm to seven pm.

2242
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 1: And then on Friday, lunch with the Bills at the

2243
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo History Museum from eleven to one. You and several

2244
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: of your former teammates who you are most looking forward

2245
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: to seeing of your former teammates when you get together

2246
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: with him, well, right now, any of them can't be right.

2247
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: People don't realize the average person. It's fans of ours,

2248
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 1: it's great and no anything else. But guys you've picked,

2249
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 1: are we This is not just me. We'ressing losing players unbelievable.

2250
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean some of my closest friend, my roommate done away.

2251
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: He passed away about two months ago. You go to

2252
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: call somebody up and there's no one there, type of thing.

2253
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: And we've had the same problem back in Washington. We're

2254
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 1: losing people up. I'm fighting and I got Alzheimer's. I mean,

2255
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 1: we're all fighting the same thing in the town point.

2256
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 1: But some guys are doing better than others. And but

2257
01:51:55,800 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: it's just unfortunately, it's the stuff that we yeh, did

2258
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: I guess it is something I'll be we're importing to do. Yeah,

2259
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's a great book. It's available, by the

2260
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: way at Amazon dot com. And if you really want

2261
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: a special treat for the book and go to Ron

2262
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 1: mcdold dot com, you can get a free autographed edition

2263
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: of the book, which is a great benefit. Ron mcdold

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01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: dot com. The books not free, free, the autograph is free. Yeah, yeah,

2265
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 1: the books not free. Amazon dot com is also available. Ron,

2266
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: thanks for this. Welcome back to Buffalo. I hope you

2267
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 1: have man. Thanks for stopping by. It's good to be here.

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01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Ron mcdoweld. His book is The Dancing Bear, My eighteen

2269
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 1: years in the trenches of the AFL and the NFL.

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01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more. It's One Bills Live

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01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: It's time now for New York State Lottery. Inside the numbers,

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Speaker 1: corner Terren Johnson each got sax in Green Bay on Sunday.

2275
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: That's the first game in Bills franchise history where two

2276
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: rookie defensive backs came up with sacks. Didn't know that

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Speaker 1: a break from the expected play scratch off games from

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Speaker 1: the New York Lottery. Welcome back to the show, John

2280
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker want to get going again about

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01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 1: the bills where they stand four games in and that's

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01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll. That's what we are taking your calls about.

2283
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: What do you think after four games? What's most surprising

2284
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 1: to you about the twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills after the

2285
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: first four games. Give us a call at eight oh

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01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Twitter at one Bills Live. Vote in the Twitter poll

2289
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: or send in your comments Steve. He's gonna read some

2290
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: of the second I do want to say I really

2291
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to Ron mcduel. Some great stories Steve, most

2292
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: of them that he told today. You're in the book

2293
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: The Dancing Bear. He's gonna be around town for a

2294
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,759
Speaker 1: couple of days here doing the book signings, including tonight

2295
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,839
Speaker 1: six pm to eight pm at the Buffalo History Museum

2296
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: six pm. You can say hi to Ron. He'll sign

2297
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 1: a book for you. And then Thursday at Danny South

2298
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 1: right here on Abbott Road and Orchard Park five pm

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01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: to seven pm. And then on Friday he and several

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01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: of his former teammates lunch with the Bills the Buffalo

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01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: History Museum again eleven am to one pm. I thanks

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01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: to Ron mcdoll. How about Steve the connection. The two

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01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: of you have two of the Let's say, you're not

2304
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna like this, but you are a major figure in

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01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: franchise history. I submit that Ron mcdoll is as well.

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01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: And what do you both have tom when you were

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01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: both coached by Marv Levy, that's amazing. Yeah, he was

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01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: coached by Marv. Marv was one of the first special

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01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: teams coaches in the league. Not the first, I think

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01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 1: Dick vermil was the first with the Philadelphia Eagles. Marv

2311
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: closely followed him in Washington for George Allen and Marv.

2312
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: And you heard Ron say Ron, Ron said Marv was

2313
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of his savior. He came in, taught him how

2314
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: to film studies, started getting things together, and taught him

2315
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: how to block kicks. It was like seventy one seventy two.

2316
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 1: That didn't go on back then him. I guess not,

2317
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 1: and Ron had a ton of block kims, making five

2318
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: grand a block kick, and and uh Georgeohn said yeah,

2319
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 1: I keep doing it. And Marv was a big, big

2320
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: part of that. And of course, for those of you

2321
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know Marv, I was the first new player that

2322
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill signed when Marv Leavy got hired. Marv

2323
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 1: got hired on a Monday, and then on Friday or

2324
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 1: on Thursday night, my name came up on the procedural

2325
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: waiver wire from Houston. Houston was trying to activate me

2326
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 1: off the waiver list to the injured list to play

2327
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 1: for them. I was on their team, and Marv saw

2328
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: my name on the procedural wire and said, hey, pick

2329
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 1: that guy up. And I showed up here on a Saturday,

2330
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: and I was Murph, I'm sitting here. I'm still cashing

2331
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: that lottery ticket, right. It's true. It's true. It was.

2332
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: I walked in and there were five Hall of Famers

2333
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: already in the room nobody knew about. So I'm riding

2334
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 1: that wave even today, thirty twenty five years later, thirty

2335
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: years later, I think it's cool that you and mcdueah

2336
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: both share that Marv Leav's influencing your career. I mean

2337
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's i'm gonna guess thirty forty years

2338
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 1: older than you. Yeah, and I hold your arm back,

2339
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: So he's probably thirty years older than you. Thirty five,

2340
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 1: maybe played in twenty played an entirely different era. That's

2341
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 1: a testament to how long marvels Around two he credits

2342
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 1: Marvel Levy for prolonging his career. Right, no credit for

2343
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: teams giving me my career. Pretty cool. Basically, it is

2344
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's a good book, and it is and

2345
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Ron's a great guy, and you're right for whatever I

2346
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 1: was to this franchise. Ron McDowell was a big name

2347
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: on their sixties teams. He was it was. He was

2348
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 1: a dynamic NFL player for eighteen seasons. Can you imagine

2349
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: that playing for eighteen ye he sat there and told

2350
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 1: us he goes at never got anything broken. Fine, Yeah,

2351
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: they all say, and Ron says in the book, how

2352
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: supremely talented His linemate teammate Tom Sestak was. Sestak passed

2353
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 1: away in an early age. But they all say, I've

2354
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: heard Bills players that theyre say Sestack was the man.

2355
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Ron mcdoll was a man too, and the fourth. I mean,

2356
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: seventeen consecutive games that Bill's team played without allowing a

2357
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown. That's like more than a full season in

2358
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 1: today's NFL. Seventeen consecutive games no rushing touchdown against him.

2359
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 1: Mcdo had a big had a big role in that,

2360
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure, absolutely, And he did all that other And

2361
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: this was back in the day when the rosters were

2362
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: very small. There's like thirty three or thirty six guys

2363
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: on the roster, and you played special teams as a starter,

2364
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 1: and McDole was blocking kicks and blocking punts, and he

2365
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 1: was also, as you say, making interception. It's thirteen career

2366
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 1: reception played for Washington, played in a Super Bowl. They

2367
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: ran up against the undefeated Dolphins team in the early seventies,

2368
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 1: so they lost that game. But really good book The

2369
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Dancing Bear Run. And he's in town for the next

2370
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: few days. You should catch and go out and say hello.

2371
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a piece of Bill's history walks in

2372
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: town this weekend. All right, we're talking about the history

2373
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: of the first four games for this Bills team. What

2374
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: do you think what surprises you about the way they've started, Steve,

2375
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 1: you got some contributors from the tweet sheet. We got

2376
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: a ton of people vote. We had like sixteen hundred

2377
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: votes on this thing today, which so which is nice,

2378
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: but also some people chiming in from Buffalo Wingwear. The

2379
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: disappointing run game gets my vote. They should have two

2380
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,879
Speaker 1: tight ends in most of the time and the fullback

2381
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 1: end to make holes for shady Ivory and Murphy put

2382
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 1: in a more conservative pass game like they had with

2383
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: Tyrod until Alan learns well. And I get that. The

2384
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 1: problem is there's no one and I've said this, I

2385
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 1: said this yesterday, there's no one answer to what ails

2386
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: the bills. Even Josh Allen getting better is not gonna

2387
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: solve everything. Even the offensive line, you know, Josh Allen

2388
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: get better, getting better, it's not gonna make the offensive

2389
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: line that much better. And the offensive line getting better

2390
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: is not gonna help Josh Allen learn any faster. And

2391
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: neither one of those things is gonna make the wide

2392
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: receivers play better, get better separation all that. So you're

2393
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do a bunch of things better

2394
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 1: to play better and get a better result. And certainly

2395
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is going to improve their offensive line you'd

2396
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 1: hope they're gonna try and improve there, and in fact,

2397
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: they have played better than they did last week against

2398
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 1: the Packers. The wide receivers, Josh got to be more accurate.

2399
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: He's got to help them, and they've got to help

2400
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,080
Speaker 1: him as well. So there's a lot of things have

2401
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 1: to get better. But there's no one magic bullet to

2402
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 1: solve all the Bills offensive problems. And that's why we're

2403
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 1: asking the question. We are what's the biggest surprise of

2404
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: the first four games? How about this one tweet cheat

2405
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: from William Conley says, I chose slow start on defense

2406
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 1: because of the additions they made and the continuity of

2407
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. The ineffectiveness of the run game is

2408
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 1: easy because they did not address the loss of two

2409
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl players and traded away Corty Glenn. They drafted

2410
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: defense heavily. A couple of points, Courty Glenn was not

2411
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: a starter here last year. Was not a starter, was

2412
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: not going to start, was not a star. Wasn't one point,

2413
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 1: but he got benched. He was not a starter by

2414
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 1: the hand of the year. They did draft defense heavily,

2415
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 1: and I would submit and we're talking about the four games,

2416
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: but two and a half games. The last two and

2417
01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: a half games, I would tell you I think the

2418
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense is pretty much turned it around. I really do.

2419
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 1: The first game and a half ridiculous, the blowout loss

2420
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: of Baltimore, the first half of the Chargers game. But

2421
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 1: since then and it's two and a half games now,

2422
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 1: I think the defense has found its feline. I think

2423
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: they're doing okay, not great, but okay. They're right in

2424
01:59:57,320 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the league defensively, sixteenth after that brutals start.

2425
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the defense is the right answer there,

2426
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: the slow start that was a factor in the first

2427
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 1: two losses. But I think they've solved that issue. Yeah

2428
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 1: they might. Well, we'll see. If we move forward, things

2429
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: are going to change. It. We say it over and

2430
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 1: over again on this show. And it's a week to

2431
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 1: week league. It'll be interesting to see this week. Trevor

2432
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: Davis also chimes in from the tweet sheet defense of

2433
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: Jekyll and Hyde most surprising the first It's most surprising

2434
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 1: the first six quarters. I can't imagine any NFL defense

2435
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,800
Speaker 1: has looked so bad six consecutive quarters. Then to go

2436
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 1: to the other extreme, it looks so good against Minnesota

2437
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 1: and then hold Green Bay to nineteen points through three

2438
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 1: quarters of play. He's right, it has been a little

2439
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 1: bit of a yo yo, And luckily the Bills have

2440
02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: had been on a high the last two weeks, last

2441
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks, two and a half games.

2442
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 1: So I think that is for me, that's been the

2443
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 1: most surprising thing because we really expected this defense to

2444
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 1: be better. Now they have been the last two and

2445
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: a half games, but their slow start was I mean,

2446
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 1: let's face it, we were in a dark place after

2447
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:00,800
Speaker 1: that Charger game. Didn't make any sense. It was I

2448
02:01:00,880 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: think everybody was in a dark place. Let's take a

2449
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,400
Speaker 1: phone call from Joe and North Town. I Wanda hid

2450
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: Joe go and you're on the air with us. Yeah,

2451
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 1: I just want to know why doesn't Dable come down

2452
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 1: from upstairs to be there with Josh Allen to go

2453
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: over all this stuff, so, you know, to clear his

2454
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,520
Speaker 1: mind a little bit and help him out. Yeah, I'll

2455
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: tell you that, Joe. That's a good question. I think

2456
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 1: that comes down to if the coordinators come more comfortable

2457
02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 1: up there, and how much benefit he gets to come

2458
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: down and actually looking the guy in the eye. Certainly

2459
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 1: he can sit there and Josh can put a headset

2460
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 1: on or pick up the phone and they can talk

2461
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 1: voice to voice, and they do all the time. And

2462
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,480
Speaker 1: Cully is there, the quarterbacks coach. They can all talk together,

2463
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: they can have voices, but you can't look the guy

2464
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,120
Speaker 1: in the eye. And a lot of people I've heard

2465
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 1: coordinators and other guys say they think that's really important.

2466
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:51,720
Speaker 1: I've heard other guys say just the opposite. It's not

2467
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: that big a deal, And I think it comes down

2468
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 1: to the desires of the coordinator. Maybe it does come

2469
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 1: down to the desires of the quarterback as well. But

2470
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: a lot of coordinators, because they watch so much film

2471
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: and they spend so much time studying the game from

2472
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 1: the eye of the camera, they see it better, They

2473
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 1: recognize it quicker, and they can make better adjustments when

2474
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 1: they see it up high live like they see it

2475
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 1: on film, and it just helps their digestion of what's

2476
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 1: going on. It helps them dissect what the defense is

2477
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 1: doing against him, helps them game plan better when they're

2478
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 1: up high. I agree with you, though, you do trade

2479
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 1: something by not being able to come down out of

2480
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 1: the booth, sit there on the bench and look your

2481
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 1: quarterback in the eye and see how he's feeling and

2482
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: talk to him. You can't talk to him, But you

2483
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: can't you're not there, you know what I mean. So

2484
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 1: I get that, Joe, And that is a question. And

2485
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 1: when things aren't going well, you think about everything. But

2486
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 1: and there's both both sides of the story. But if

2487
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 1: they if if Dave all feels more comfortable up there

2488
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: and he's doing a better job up there than he

2489
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 1: would on the field, I think he's got to stay

2490
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 1: up there. But no doubt they've talked about that as well,

2491
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 1: about whether he's up or down. He experimented both ways

2492
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 1: in the preseason. They call from and in Florida. Hello, Dan,

2493
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey guys, Hi, Sorry I was

2494
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: taking you off hands free sum Yeah, exactly, so listen. Um.

2495
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: You know, I guess my commenting question would be that,

2496
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what we need to do

2497
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 1: with Alan other than just giving them more experience, you know.

2498
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, like to be honest with you, I

2499
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 1: don't understand why when we were so successful with Ivory

2500
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 1: in week two with short passes, why we're not continuing

2501
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 1: to do that because we didn't do it at all

2502
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 1: last week and or this week or whatever, you want

2503
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 1: to call it, And I guess I just wanted you

2504
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: guys to comment on Alan and on Ivory and kind

2505
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 1: of go from there. We all know the offensive line stinks.

2506
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 1: We all know that the freaking wide receiving core stinks.

2507
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 1: So you know, it is what it is. And you know,

2508
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 1: thanks so much for everything you do. And Steve, I

2509
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:03,440
Speaker 1: hope you get in the Hall of Games soon, all right.

2510
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 1: See by appreciate it, yeah, I mean the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

2511
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:11,879
Speaker 1: it's listen. The offensive line is to work in progress.

2512
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think they stink. Uh, they played too

2513
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: well in Minnesota to say that they're you know, there's

2514
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,640
Speaker 1: not some talent in there that they can't play well

2515
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: against these teams. They didn't play well against the Packers,

2516
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: no question. Didn't play as well as they should have

2517
02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 1: against the Chargers either, and of course not Baltimore and

2518
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver is the same story. But by the

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Speaker 1: same token, this thing about going back to what they

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02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 1: has been successful against another team in a different game,

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Speaker 1: and why don't they do more of that in the

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02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: in the present game. There's no way to know why

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Speaker 1: that didn't happen, because there's so many reasons why it

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Speaker 1: would or would not happen. Either they didn't call the

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Speaker 1: plays like you suspect like it says, they just didn't

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Speaker 1: try to, or they were they had it called and

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02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 1: something came up better, or that something happened that caused

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Speaker 1: him to go in a different direction with their offense.

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Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with a short passing game

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Speaker 1: and Chris Ivory. But believe me, if they thought they

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02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: could have been successful with it, they would have tried it.

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Speaker 1: And there might have been instances where they tried it

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02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:07,840
Speaker 1: a couple of times and bad things happened on every

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02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: every time they tried it, and they just stayed away

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Speaker 1: from it because of that. It could it could have

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02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 1: been something like that. All that stuff is possible and

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02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 1: there's no telling. But believe me, if they're successful running

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Speaker 1: something in one game, they're not going to get away

2539
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 1: from it just to get away from it. There's gonna

2540
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 1: be good reasons for it. But you're right. I mean,

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02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 1: it's frustrating when you see him be successful one week

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02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 1: like they were in Minnesota, and then come back and

2543
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 1: look like they're running a different kind of offense with different,

2544
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 1: completely different plays. They don't try to the same plays

2545
02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: again Now I get that's frustrating, but there's a lot

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02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 1: of that goes into that. Yeah, I mean, and part

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Speaker 1: of it. We talked about this a lot, especially after Minnesota.

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02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 1: It's it's day bows matchup theory, right. He wants to

2549
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 1: create matchup, so it would stand a reason his offense

2550
02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 1: would look different week to week. It's hard to say

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02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 1: that they're not using Ivory enough. He's got thirty one,

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02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 1: carries Shady his twenty one. I think the last time

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Speaker 1: I looked, of course, Ivory was in the one game

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02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 1: at the winning game when Shady was not there. Yeah,

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02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: every thirty one carries McCoy as a twenty one, and

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02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of catches too. He's played just

2557
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 1: about as many snaps as Lashawn McCoy. So it's hard

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Speaker 1: for me to say that they're not using I'll tell

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02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 1: you this, even even though the seat they're won and

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02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 1: three on the season. I like the way they've used Ivory.

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02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 1: I like his what he brings to the offense, the

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02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 1: game he put together, all the runs he's had. I've

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02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 1: liked even this run last week, this this game last

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02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 1: week in Green Bay when Shady was in there and

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02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 1: Ivory was in there, and there was a handful of

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02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,240
Speaker 1: snaps when they were in there together, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have said, hey, why don't they do that

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Speaker 1: or do it more. I like what Ivory has brought.

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02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:46,080
Speaker 1: And I thought Lashawn McCoy and Ivory, and we said

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02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 1: this yesterday, we thought they both got about as much

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02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 1: out of the run game that was there. There wasn't

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02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 1: much there, no question about it them. And they didn't

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02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: get them very many opportunities because of the score. But

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02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 1: when they got the ball handed to him, they were

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02:06:57,720 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 1: getting about every yard coming to him. Sometimes it was

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02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 1: only three yards, and those were great three yards to

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02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 1: get because I didn't think they were gonna get three yards.

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02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: And other times, you know, they would snap off a

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02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 1: seven yard run and all that. But there just wasn't

2580
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 1: enough opportunity in a game the way that was going

2581
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: against Green Bay, and they just ran out of opportunities,

2582
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 1: ran out of time, and the game got away from

2583
02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 1: and they had to start doing different things offensively. But

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02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 1: I like what Chris Ivory has brought. I liked there

2585
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 1: was some questions when they brought him in. He's a

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02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:29,480
Speaker 1: thirty year old back, was he gonna be able to

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02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: contribute and I think he's laid those criticisms to rest.

2588
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 1: He has really helped this club. One more from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, and this one I liked because it offers

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02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: some perspective from Kevin. Scott, says Murphancy. Biggest surprise to

2591
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 1: me is people overreacting to Josh Allen's performance. We knew

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02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 1: he was a row talent. It's gonna take time, and

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02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: I have faith he'll get much better. Give the kid

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02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 1: a chance. Most rookie quarterbacks and even second year struggle

2595
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:55,400
Speaker 1: go bills Kevin and Rhode Island. I think he's right right.

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02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:57,200
Speaker 1: You knew what we said yesterday. You know what you're

2597
02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 1: signing up for when you plugged in Josh Allen and

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02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,840
Speaker 1: week do. That is not originally what they wanted to do.

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02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:05,240
Speaker 1: Forced to that because of Nathan peterman struggle in Baltimore.

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02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 1: But you kind of know what you're signing up for.

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02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 1: You're signing up for rough times like Sunday, You're also

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02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 1: signing up for much better times like Minnesota. I expect

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02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:14,440
Speaker 1: more of the same. Down the stretcher, Stephen or remaining

2604
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 1: twelve games upsite and down. A question isn't I don't

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02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 1: know if I'll ever put this on a Twitter poll.

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02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: But you know, how patient are you willing to be,

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02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, with Josh or with everything with everything with

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02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 1: a Josh with with uh you know McDermott and and

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02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 1: being listen. They inherited a mess uh Rex Ryan and

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02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,760
Speaker 1: that group did not do Bill's fans in the future

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02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: of their organization any favors. They signed some guys who

2612
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 1: are not here to some I thought some warped contracts

2613
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 1: who that they were never going to get the value

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02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: out of those contracts from the guys they signed. Um.

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02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 1: I thought the philosophy wasn't gonna work. And so they

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02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 1: got McDermott and being in here and they they have

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02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: started to clean the slate and they've started to build

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02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 1: it from the ground up. And let's face it, they

2619
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 1: tore it down. They tore down on those contracts. They

2620
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 1: tore it down with some talent. They tried to stockpile

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02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: some draft picks. They did it. They climbed the ladder

2622
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:15,080
Speaker 1: with a number of different moves and draft picks and

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02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 1: players to get into a position to get a franchise quarterback.

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02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 1: They got blindsided by a couple of departures that they

2625
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 1: couldn't anticipate and didn't have any more assets to cover

2626
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 1: those holes that they got this year that they got

2627
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 1: saddled with. So they're kind of behind it in a

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02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of respects. But I have really been when I've

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02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:37,000
Speaker 1: at the time that those some of these decisions were made,

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02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 1: or all these decisions were made, I was on board

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02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:42,320
Speaker 1: with it. Now I'm not saying they're all gonna work out.

2632
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,960
Speaker 1: I can't say that Termaine Edmonds and Josh Allen are

2633
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,040
Speaker 1: going to be stars for fifteen years in the league.

2634
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:49,760
Speaker 1: But I liked it. I got the logic when they

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02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 1: drafted them. I got the logic when they made the

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02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 1: moves to jump up and get those guys. And for me,

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02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 1: I'd rather be patient and go through days like this

2638
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 1: knowing that there's that they're getting and better and I

2639
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 1: can see the price. And it's more fun when I

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02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,480
Speaker 1: see the progress, not like last Sunday when you take

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02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 1: a step back, But it's more fun to know that

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02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:10,800
Speaker 1: we've got a plan and it's and we can watch

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02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 1: it grow, rather than you know, pulling some star of

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02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 1: the off the off the free agent market, giving him

2645
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 1: a ton of dollars and okay, we've got one good

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02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 1: defensive lineman now, or we've got one good corner, or

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02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 1: we've got this, uh for instance, look at the like

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02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:30,520
Speaker 1: the thin back, like the Terrell Owens thing. You got

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02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:32,200
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer at wide out who's got a

2650
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 1: lot left in the tank, and you've got him for

2651
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 1: one year. You know, I don't want to do that anymore.

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02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather draft guys I like who can play and

2653
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,680
Speaker 1: watch them grow and stick with them through the tough

2654
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: times in that growth. I like this plan better, no argument. Hey,

2655
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 1: we've got football here Friday night once again. High school

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02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,160
Speaker 1: football coming to New Airfield this Friday night. Mind Senior

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02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,760
Speaker 1: Martin League this Friday, eight time in Saint Jude against

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02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:59,760
Speaker 1: Cardinal O'Hara seven o'clock kick off this Friday. If you

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02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:02,240
Speaker 1: can again here, come on. They'll sell tickets there. You

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02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: can purchase tickets from the schools or available to the

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02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 1: day of the game here at the Bills Ticket office.

2662
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 1: And also these games are going to be streamed across

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02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:11,960
Speaker 1: Newer Fields Facebook and Twitter channels as well as one

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02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo dot com. Chris Brown calls play by play longtime

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02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 1: Lancaster's coach Len Janko, which provides the color High school football,

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02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: back at New Airfielders Friday time and seeing Jude against O'Hara.

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Speaker 1: Remember that as you make your weekend playing Steve and

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Speaker 1: I coming up with more in a moment, One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Good Show Today. Peter King joined us early round.

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Speaker 1: He talked about Josh Allen and his performance against the

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02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. I think what I see most of

2677
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 1: all is a guy who really wants to be good,

2678
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:11,840
Speaker 1: who's got the right approach to the game, who understands

2679
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 1: it's a marathon, not a sprint. You know, Josh Allen

2680
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 1: is going to be a good NFL quarterback, I believe,

2681
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 1: But you've got to give him time. You've got to

2682
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,560
Speaker 1: give every one of these guys time. If you do,

2683
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:26,320
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, you'll be rewarded.

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02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:31,520
Speaker 1: But impatience is really kryptonite for young quarterbacks love that

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02:12:31,640 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 1: from Peter King. We also had Eric Wood on the

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Speaker 1: show today, longtime Bill's offensive lineman. We asked him what

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Speaker 1: would you do to fix the Buffalo Bill's anemic run offense.

2688
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:43,040
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. You know, they've had some great

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02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:45,160
Speaker 1: runs so far this year, and they you know, they

2690
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:47,360
Speaker 1: got a new scheme, and you know last year we

2691
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 1: were kind of watch zoned to start year, and then

2692
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:52,680
Speaker 1: we got back to some inside zone and power game

2693
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:54,960
Speaker 1: that kind of got us going a little bit. And

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02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think with this group, that's what they're

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02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:01,440
Speaker 1: kind of used to, and that's Marshady excel and maybe

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02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:03,400
Speaker 1: you get back to more of that. You know, at times,

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Speaker 1: I've really liked how quickly Chris Ivery's getting downhill continue

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02:13:08,240 --> 02:13:10,760
Speaker 1: those types of runs. But you know, I think a

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Speaker 1: big part of the run game right now is not

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Speaker 1: digging yourself in early holes in these games. You know,

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02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:18,760
Speaker 1: they're they're playing the whole second half in a pretty

2702
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 1: much a hurry up offense trying to get back in

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02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 1: these games, which just really excused the rushing numbers. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to hear that from Eric to Steve. Tomorrow we

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Speaker 1: start a new week, right really a practice week. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: we put Packers behind us to start to look at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, you think of the

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Speaker 1: next three games. They got Marcus Mariota, Deshaun Watson, and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. They all kind of stumbled coming out of

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Speaker 1: the gate. But now you know, I think Marcus Mariota,

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02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:41,760
Speaker 1: they're at three and one on a three game winning stream.

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Speaker 1: He threw for over four hundred yards. He had one

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Speaker 1: of those twelve four hundred yards games and seems to

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Speaker 1: be on a hot streak. So it's not getting easier,

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Speaker 1: but it is a new week. We'll get easier. It is. Yes,

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