Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jet and Gee arms rang Strong.
Speaker 3: Happy Independence Day everyone, It's the fourth of July and
Speaker 3: it's the A and G replay featuring bits and pieces
Speaker 3: of our podcast, Armstrong and Geddy.
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Speaker 3: I understand you're going to interview me on the topic
Speaker 3: of my milestone birthday, just so I can get from
Speaker 3: Do you have a style in mind? Are you gonna
Speaker 3: be like Scott Pelly, slow talking and making me repeat everything?
Speaker 3: You're gonna make me cry like Ellen DeGeneres. Do you
Speaker 3: have more of Charlie Rose approach in mind?
Speaker 2: Katie?
Speaker 5: Joe and I were working together. Joe and I have
Speaker 5: basically the same birthday. My birthdays in ten days, and
Speaker 5: I'm turning the same age, so we are in the
Speaker 5: same reflective age situation of turning sixty. His birthday is today.
Speaker 5: Joe and I were working together when we turned thirty,
Speaker 5: when we turned forty, when we turned fifty, and now
Speaker 5: when we turn sixty, that doesn't seem possible.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, but it really doesn't seem possible.
Speaker 2: No, that's particularly given the hatred of each other that
Speaker 2: we share.
Speaker 5: Just from a time standpoint, the one thing you can't
Speaker 5: you can't. This is gonna be one of the things
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about. Okay, well, I'll just
Speaker 5: ask you instead of giving an answer first. That would
Speaker 5: be a dumb wait to interview.
Speaker 3: Innovative got a couple of questions. Okay, what does sixty
Speaker 3: feel like compared to what you thought it would feel
Speaker 3: like when you were thirty, emotionally, physically, whatever. Well, that
Speaker 3: that question assumes that I remember what I thought.
Speaker 2: When I was thirty or any point when you're no,
Speaker 2: I see your point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think fairly similar. Uh. I was never never
Speaker 3: particularly afraid of aging. I've never been particular and particularly
Speaker 3: enthusiastic about the idea either.
Speaker 5: It would be enthusiastic about aging past like twenty one,
Speaker 5: who would be enthusiastic about aging?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I think.
Speaker 3: One of the formative aspects of my life is that
Speaker 3: I've always been a golf freak, and even when I
Speaker 3: was thirty five, I played golf with guys who are
Speaker 3: seventy who were having fun and good players, and we'd
Speaker 3: have a couple of drinks afterward and a hoot, and
Speaker 3: so I saw. I don't know if you'd call them
Speaker 3: role models exactly, but I didn't fear that.
Speaker 5: You have a thought, Katie before I jump in, Oh no,
Speaker 5: go ahead, I'm listening. I'm the exact opposite. I've always assumed,
Speaker 5: like when I was in my twenties, I assumed there's
Speaker 5: no way anybody over the age of thirty was having fun.
Speaker 5: And uh, and I felt that way by my whole life.
Speaker 5: I thought, there's no way you're having fun in your forties.
Speaker 5: Fifty year olds aren't having fun. Certainly nobody's gonna have
Speaker 5: fun in their sixties. And if they're like smiling and laughing,
Speaker 5: like you say, you see people they just don't remember
Speaker 5: what fun was. This is as good as it gets
Speaker 5: for them, but they're not actually having fun. If there's
Speaker 5: one thing I could tell younger me, well, maybe that's
Speaker 5: the question I want to ask. If you could tell
Speaker 5: thirty year old you, forty year old you, whatever, twenty
Speaker 5: five year old something, what would it be?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Okay, you know me, I quibble about every question you do?
Speaker 3: Does this like include do you tell yourself? Don't quibble
Speaker 3: so much it's a waste. It could be so quibblesome people.
Speaker 2: Don't like it. Wisdom or.
Speaker 3: I'll just stick with wisdom for now because I will
Speaker 3: the reason I asked that question, and I can picture
Speaker 3: it so vividly. It's causing giant emotional changes in my
Speaker 3: brain right now. It was around in Gladys Doon't Bother
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight to two thousand, two thousand and one,
Speaker 3: when the talk show had just started because we realized
Speaker 3: we had no future in music radio. We were doing
Speaker 3: a talk show between the records, and it was stupid,
Speaker 3: but we'd started at our now home station in Sacramento,
Speaker 3: Toxics fifty KST and of the forty five rated radio
Speaker 3: stations in Sacramento, it was forty fifth when we took
Speaker 3: over the morning show, and it was taking longer than
Speaker 3: we had hoped to really grow it, just because the
Speaker 3: mathematics of it.
Speaker 2: Lord knows, we had no marketing at that time.
Speaker 5: I don't have you every very honest or a show,
Speaker 5: Katie with no listeners, but I have you can say
Speaker 5: to your listeners, tell your friends to tune in.
Speaker 2: But they got no friends. They aren't listening. There's nobody
Speaker 2: to tell anybody. I feel, that's my soul. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And we had taken a fifty percent cut and pay
Speaker 3: to get started in talk radio. And I had three
Speaker 3: little kids, including a baby, and I was so stressed
Speaker 3: and so concerned that I was not going to be
Speaker 3: successful in the one field I had chosen. And you
Speaker 3: know this is not some sort of dumb, humble brag,
Speaker 3: but I was one of those kids who people would say,
Speaker 3: he has so much potential, Oh, you could do this,
Speaker 3: or you could do that. And here I was going
Speaker 3: to be a dead ender who couldn't support his family.
Speaker 3: Miserable amounts of stress.
Speaker 2: Oh. I dealt with it the best I could.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if I could just whisper in my
Speaker 3: young ear, it's can work out, okay that Oh my god? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know I'm gonna blove her. That would have been
Speaker 3: enormously helpful. But wisdom wise, stay out of the sun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh my god, yeah, yeah, hey the sunscreen thing.
Speaker 2: Take that seriously. Dip show videos of uh.
Speaker 3: I'd show videos to myself look at this, and young
Speaker 3: me would say, what is that device you're holding, I'd
Speaker 3: say it's a cell phone.
Speaker 2: Do't worry about it anyway.
Speaker 3: Watch this video of a dermatologist cutting a chunk out
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I'd say, what's what's your point?
Speaker 3: Why are you doing this? I'd say, be careful with
Speaker 3: the sun. Anyway, it would probably be you know, probably
Speaker 3: be parenting advice. You know you never get. You'll never
Speaker 3: regret being patient. If you got to bring the hammer down,
Speaker 3: you can bring it down in an hour. Take a while,
Speaker 3: calm down and think about what's the smart thing to do.
Speaker 3: Probably because I was very young parent by modern.
Speaker 5: Standards, if you're an older parent like me, your tea
Speaker 5: is so low you can't really get worked up about anything.
Speaker 3: Right, don't let me take off my supplort hose and
Speaker 3: hitch you with them, son, And you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know if they decided to run off,
Speaker 2: I couldn't catch them. So yeah, you come back here
Speaker 2: if you'd like.
Speaker 5: Eh, the old the whole perspective on time thing, the
Speaker 5: way it changes when you get older, it's just impossible.
Speaker 5: There's no point in trying to explain it to somebody
Speaker 5: who's younger. Nobody could have I'm sure somebody tried to
Speaker 5: explain it to me. I was like, whatever, old man.
Speaker 3: Well, and you can believe it, but you can't relate
Speaker 3: to it. The idea that no five years goes by
Speaker 3: in the blink of an eye.
Speaker 4: You have to live that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 5: I know my kids in this they've got a particular
Speaker 5: reason to feel like this because I was an older parent,
Speaker 5: so when I was a kid was a really long time.
Speaker 5: You know, if you have kids in your twenties like
Speaker 5: you, you're only talking about a twenty year gap in now
Speaker 5: and when you were a kid. For me, it's you know,
Speaker 5: nearly a forty year gap or whatever it is. Yes,
Speaker 5: so they can they really have good ammunition for what
Speaker 5: you know about what high school is like is completely
Speaker 5: irrelevant to me, but it's not. I look around their
Speaker 5: high school, I see the stuff. It's the same thing, really,
Speaker 5: just you know, clothes are actually exactly the same. They're
Speaker 5: wearing the same clothes, same hairstyles as when I was
Speaker 5: in high school. But so much of it is the same.
Speaker 5: But you can't convince young people that you have like
Speaker 5: really any understanding of their what they're going through.
Speaker 3: And between most of my child raising in yours was
Speaker 3: the giant.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like the ADBC dividing line of smartphones. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: how that's changed everything.
Speaker 5: But the you know, but the so wanting to have
Speaker 5: a girlfriend and being nervous about asking them, just all
Speaker 5: that sort of stuff is just Yeah, it doesn't seem
Speaker 5: any different.
Speaker 2: I get.
Speaker 5: But I just remember hearing years ago we did a
Speaker 5: big show and we turned forty, which is freaking twenty
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that.
Speaker 5: But anyway, we did a big show when we turned forty,
Speaker 5: and I remember hearing somebody say something about I think
Speaker 5: it was ancient wisdom, but just.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 5: You can tell people you know how this is going
Speaker 5: to turn out, or what your experience is shown, They're
Speaker 5: still going to do it their way and find out
Speaker 5: for themselves. It's just it just seems and that seems
Speaker 5: to be way more true than not true. There's some exceptions,
Speaker 5: but it's way more true than not true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very little of the.
Speaker 3: Wisdom and conventional wisdom about conventional thinking about aging and
Speaker 3: what you're going to go through that has not been true.
Speaker 3: But you do have to confront it on your own
Speaker 3: and deal with it on your own and it's it's
Speaker 3: it's fine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's just to backtrack for one second. Joe, by standards,
Speaker 6: did you have older, younger parents.
Speaker 3: At the time, very typical. My mom was twenty four,
Speaker 3: so twenty three or twenty four when she had my
Speaker 3: sister than me a year later, and then in her
Speaker 3: early thirties when she had her last kid.
Speaker 5: My little brother now was practically everybody back in the
Speaker 5: day so young ish.
Speaker 6: Because I was thinking about your outlook on life and
Speaker 6: not really being worried about aging, and I was thinking,
Speaker 6: my parents are older her standards about same with Jack
Speaker 6: and his kids, almost forty years, and I think that
Speaker 6: kind of made it so I do I'm not really
Speaker 6: worried about aging because I'm seeing them in their older
Speaker 6: years and they're having a blast and everything's good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Maybe I was wondering if that contributed, But you had
Speaker 6: young parents, would have to.
Speaker 5: Would be like similar to your story about being around golfers.
Speaker 5: But if you're around your parents and you see them
Speaker 5: in their sixties or seventies and doing stuff, right, I
Speaker 5: have to think I would think yeah.
Speaker 3: And oh god, I was just going to say in
Speaker 3: a weird way. When I was having those excruciating back problems.
Speaker 3: And I'd say this with great sympathy to people have
Speaker 3: ongoing back problems. Mine are much much better through a
Speaker 3: combination of never ending physical therapy and workouts and stretching
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. I was so miserable the last
Speaker 3: six months of being like fifty eight in the first
Speaker 3: six months of being fifty nine, and I feel so
Speaker 3: much better now.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've deaged five years.
Speaker 3: So the idea that the calendar says otherwise, I just
Speaker 3: it's internally. I know that's correct, but I feel really good.
Speaker 3: But you're doing my recent standards.
Speaker 5: But you're doing that thing where they drain the blood
Speaker 5: out of young homeless people and they put it in
Speaker 5: your right.
Speaker 2: Not all homeless.
Speaker 5: Some of them have a volunteers, but most of them
Speaker 5: are homeless because they need the money.
Speaker 2: Draining the blood of the young and injecting it into
Speaker 2: my greedy veins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad that's working for you. If I could
Speaker 3: get that going, man, I would you have a question, Michael, No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't about this though. I was just thinking about
Speaker 3: the training the blood of the homelessness.
Speaker 2: That does nothing about that about that.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking about what Joe said.
Speaker 7: You know, you guys started in two thousand and that's
Speaker 7: when I started, and I was gonna tell Katie that
Speaker 7: the show show you how low they thought of the
Speaker 7: radio station. They used to tell me that, wouldn't you
Speaker 7: like to come work on some other show or whatever?
Speaker 7: And I refused to do it because I believed in
Speaker 7: this show. I really did, and it drove them nuts.
Speaker 4: They hated me.
Speaker 2: Oh bless you for that. Yeah, not us them. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The bosses were like, you know, you're pretty good talented,
Speaker 5: which Michael is obviously.
Speaker 2: You know, you should come work over here in a
Speaker 2: real radio station.
Speaker 4: Michael's good call on not it was a great call.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Just before we started nineteen ninety eight, they had a
Speaker 3: serious meeting about just shutting it down and taking it
Speaker 3: off the air to save the electricity and so they
Speaker 3: wouldn't have to bother employing nice people or were trying
Speaker 3: hard but weren't getting anywhere. It's like, this is not
Speaker 3: worth the trouble. Why don't we just shut that radio
Speaker 3: station off? And it took several years, but what was it,
Speaker 3: four or five years later we were number one in
Speaker 3: the market and have been a good bit of the
Speaker 3: time ever since that is awesome.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't want to do it again, Sweetheart.
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Speaker 5: I'm a regular at the gym now for like the
Speaker 5: last six months since I moved because I got a
Speaker 5: gym membership with this place I live, and I hadn't
Speaker 5: been a regular and a gym for not a regular
Speaker 5: for like thirty years, so it's been a long time
Speaker 5: pre cell phone era. Now they got signs everywhere, you know,
Speaker 5: don't sit there staring at your phone on the equipment
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah blah, because I see that happened
Speaker 5: all the time. People do a set, then they start
Speaker 5: scrolling and they don't realize ten minutes has gone by
Speaker 5: before they get back to their second set. Yeah, you're
Speaker 5: not working out hard enough. If you've got time to.
Speaker 2: Do that, you're not serious the hell out the way.
Speaker 5: I actually texted a buddy of mine who's like super
Speaker 5: hardcore into working out all the time. My main complaint
Speaker 5: I'm going to get to in a second, but he
Speaker 5: hates stacks too much weight on there and can't actually
Speaker 5: lift it guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know why that bothers him. That is kind
Speaker 2: of funny.
Speaker 5: There is a super ripped guy at the gym I's
Speaker 5: noticing the other day, and he does about the lightest
Speaker 5: weights of anybody in there. But his form is perfect,
Speaker 5: and I thought all these other muscleheads should look at him.
Speaker 5: They're trying to because they got to show how much
Speaker 5: they're doing, but they're like swinging their body around, which
Speaker 5: is not you know, isolating the muscle you're trying to wear.
Speaker 5: But this guy who uses the lightweight, he is so
Speaker 5: perfect with this technique and he's really ripped. So I
Speaker 5: think that's the key. But younger guys like to show
Speaker 5: how much they can lift. But here's here's my least
Speaker 5: favorite guy that I wanted to bring up this topic
Speaker 5: for the slams the weights down guy to show how
Speaker 5: freaking intense you.
Speaker 2: I guess all the time. Oh no, that's a lifetime ban.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: In this gym I go to, it's a private gym,
Speaker 5: and they've got signs up that say do not slam
Speaker 5: the weights. They didn't have those signs until like a
Speaker 5: week ago, and he's new. I think those signs are
Speaker 5: aimed purely at him. It has not worked at all
Speaker 5: because I've seen I saw him in the gym again
Speaker 5: last night, and I don't think anybody's got the guts
Speaker 5: to go up to him and say, hey, could you
Speaker 5: not slam those weights down? Because he looks like he
Speaker 5: would attack you and punch you in the face if
Speaker 5: you said anything to him.
Speaker 2: He's just so intense.
Speaker 5: Sure, and he stops around and he lifts heavy and
Speaker 5: he drops him on the floor, bang, bang klang, and
Speaker 5: everybody jerks like you know, because you get startled when
Speaker 5: you hear a loud noise like that. Oh, it's just
Speaker 5: so uncomfortable being around him. But Robin Tench, you started
Speaker 5: tens Robin tense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get kicked out of You'll get kicked out
Speaker 6: of Planet Fitness for that.
Speaker 5: Really, good for you. You're so freaking intense, you weirdo.
Speaker 5: Quit slamming the weights around. Geez, we get it. You
Speaker 5: care about being tough guy or something. You lift a
Speaker 5: lot that needs yeah, needs exactly yippy, But he just
Speaker 5: does it every time.
Speaker 2: And it's it's more just like I don't like big loud.
Speaker 3: Noises, right, yes, sudden loud noises, Yeah, they're kind of annoying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's always that guy that makes extra loud noises
Speaker 7: just so everybody looks over at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a combination of his grunting and he's dropping.
Speaker 4: Boom.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, we get it.
Speaker 5: Can you go to some heme man women haters club
Speaker 5: gym where you all strut around about how cool and
Speaker 5: testosterone laden you are and I don't know what you do,
Speaker 5: count your chest hairs or do something but a different jim.
Speaker 2: Oh he's totally shaved. But anyway, oh yeah he is.
Speaker 3: Actually call it a holes, Yeah, just you know, and
Speaker 3: have the the O of the hole be a plate
Speaker 3: on a bar bell A holes. The big guy lifting
Speaker 3: it'll and form the own.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: Have a gym called a holes and you like encourage
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. And everybody wears the tank top
Speaker 5: with the big loop so you see their entire body.
Speaker 2: They all have. That's the uniform that comes at the
Speaker 2: A ole.
Speaker 3: Gym, right, and they're all gonna hit on the first
Speaker 3: woman who walks in exactly one never will you know?
Speaker 2: It's right there on the sign. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Lots of mirrors, lots of posing in the mirrors. And
Speaker 3: if somebody doesn't drop the weights. The other guys have
Speaker 3: come over.
Speaker 2: What the hell's the matter with you? Man?
Speaker 4: You gotta drop those ways.
Speaker 2: You don't seem intense.
Speaker 8: Or you're not in tent, Jack, Armstrong and Joe The
Speaker 8: Armstrong and Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5: Yesterday we got on the topic of the fact that
Speaker 5: I take my coat off like a woman.
Speaker 2: As my son said, you take your coat off like
Speaker 2: a girl. Confirmed.
Speaker 5: I checked with a friend who's known me for twenty
Speaker 5: five years who said, yeah, you do take your coat
Speaker 5: off like a girl. Thought, really, okay, that's interesting. Then
Speaker 5: yesterday took off my coat during the show for Katie.
Speaker 5: She said, you absolutely take your goat. It's the way
Speaker 5: I rolled my shoulders apparently. So we made a video
Speaker 5: of it and put it up for a vote, and
Speaker 5: we posted on Twitter, and it's running sixty about two thirds. Yes,
Speaker 5: I lack authority and otherwise in other words, I take
Speaker 5: my coat off like a girl or no, about a third.
Speaker 5: So most people seem to agree, and a lot of
Speaker 5: comments on the video. For instance, Dave who weighed in
Speaker 5: he may take his coat off like a lady, but
Speaker 5: he takes his pantyhose off like a man.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that.
Speaker 5: It's the way he puffs out his boobs. That's what
Speaker 5: my son said. It's like you're trying to push out
Speaker 5: your boobs but you don't have any Okay, you're like
Speaker 5: a Ponzi hairdresser.
Speaker 2: This person said, Oh, Karen's Henriady. Who's the insults?
Speaker 5: Huh, Karen Henriady, a fabulous human being in a long time.
Speaker 5: A friend of the Armstrong and Getty show said, Michelangelo
Speaker 5: is a National treasurer. That's for Michelangelo's participation in the video.
Speaker 5: And she takes his jacket off like a man compared
Speaker 5: to my taking it off like a girl.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: I went into this wanting to back you Jack, But
Speaker 2: yeah you do.
Speaker 6: Oh uh big popular vote that your jacket's too small?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it wasn't when I bought it.
Speaker 3: Did you see Jamie's comment, our beloved former newswoman Jamie Coffee,
Speaker 3: I did not, She said, not sure. It's like a girl,
Speaker 3: but definitely more fluid and more flair than Michaelangelow's cave
Speaker 3: man esque distrobing of his coat. So and you do
Speaker 3: you boo boo? She writes, that's a very Jamie thing
Speaker 3: to say. Uh, yeah, so Michael coming in for.
Speaker 2: A little criticism. Yeah, I don't know why I rolled
Speaker 2: my shoulders like that. It's really made me think a
Speaker 2: lot about a lot of things, giving you a japlex.
Speaker 3: I have been a flaming heterosexual since early in my life.
Speaker 3: I just knew it's girls for me from a very early,
Speaker 3: you know, point in my life, and I have observed
Speaker 3: girlishness and femininity in many, many different pursuits. I've never
Speaker 3: thought about there being a feminine way to take off
Speaker 3: one's coat.
Speaker 5: Now until people started posting gifts of women taking off
Speaker 5: their coats. And that's the way I take my coat off.
Speaker 2: Huh. Jack is an effeminate.
Speaker 5: Man who seeks recognition and approval from others, especially the
Speaker 5: opposite sex, for self esteem fulfillment.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, good psychoanalysis. That's no charge either. It's the
Speaker 3: shoulder roll, everybody says, so I'll work on it. I
Speaker 3: guess more of a shimmy.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do about that. Okay, So
Speaker 5: tell us your story, Katie or Joe has a prelude.
Speaker 4: To Yes, Joe had something.
Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna.
Speaker 3: Say, we Uh, I'm not even sure this person's with
Speaker 3: us anymore.
Speaker 2: Are our first age.
Speaker 3: We were not thrilled with the job he did, and
Speaker 3: indeed we asked him to take his leave in favor
Speaker 3: of Eric, the world's greatest agent. On the other hand,
Speaker 3: the one thing that he did that I really appreciated,
Speaker 3: he'd say, guys, call me, it's urgent.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, So he would always make it clear, hey, I
Speaker 3: got to see you.
Speaker 2: Don't worry.
Speaker 3: Everything's cool, because he knew that anybody who gets that
Speaker 3: summons is like, O A crap all So, bosses, I've
Speaker 3: always wondered this, when you say I'd like to see
Speaker 3: in my office at one o'clock, do you get a
Speaker 3: kick out of people being scared to death? Or does
Speaker 3: it or does it not occur to you that unless
Speaker 3: you say it's a good thing, everybody's worried they're about
Speaker 3: to be fired or something bad. Every time, not sometimes,
Speaker 3: not occasionally, every time, bosses, you say I need to
Speaker 3: see in my office. You're scared depth you're losing your job.
Speaker 3: So if it's not bad and and and unless you
Speaker 3: get a kick out of them being freaked out, you
Speaker 3: should say, as our agent used to say, it's a
Speaker 3: good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no big deal. We just got to deal
Speaker 2: with something. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Of course, if they weren't going to sack you, roll
Speaker 3: in your life and cast you out into the poverty,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't tell.
Speaker 4: You that, all right, of course, real quick here.
Speaker 7: But if you call your agent, he says, it's a
Speaker 7: good thing, and he says, guess what, guys, I got
Speaker 7: a new car.
Speaker 2: That doesn't help you.
Speaker 3: I'm watching the video. I haven't watched the whole video yet.
Speaker 3: I had a crazy busy day, Michael. That's not cave managed.
Speaker 3: That's a man taking off his coat.
Speaker 2: Michael.
Speaker 3: I apologize for even report repeating that that idiotic criticism.
Speaker 4: I appreciate.
Speaker 3: That's going to take off his coat. It's uh, it's
Speaker 3: it's PONSI. It's hard to describe why, but it's.
Speaker 2: I know, I wondering how I picked that up. Weirdly deliberate,
Speaker 2: that's exact. That's funny. That is really weird.
Speaker 5: Let me read the quote from and this is somebody
Speaker 5: who hadn't seen me take a jacket off in twenty
Speaker 5: five years. And I ask them, I mean, it's just
Speaker 5: weird that they'd have any memory whatsoever. If somebody from
Speaker 5: who I haven't seen take a jacket off in twenty
Speaker 5: five years, texted me and said, do I take my
Speaker 5: jacket off?
Speaker 2: In an effeminate way? I would say, what the hell
Speaker 2: are you talking about? What I said?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're very particular and intentional when removing your jacket,
Speaker 5: very feminine.
Speaker 4: They use the very word.
Speaker 2: That you used. That's so strange. I know it is.
Speaker 3: This is this is a topic I have never spent
Speaker 3: a single second thinking about.
Speaker 5: No in my many decades on this planet. But you're
Speaker 5: in agreement with two thirds of people. Okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I've got to admit I was I was tasked with
Speaker 3: having because I did after the show yesterday. But I
Speaker 3: was tasked with having Judy videotape me taking my coat off.
Speaker 3: But she was insanely busy yesterday and we never got
Speaker 3: it done. And now I'm a really curious about my
Speaker 3: coat removal style, although nobody's ever mentioned it to me,
Speaker 3: so it's probably more normal. But I'm also totally aware.
Speaker 3: Now I'll be hyper aware I won't be able to
Speaker 3: do it naturally.
Speaker 5: I wonder if I've ever sea blocked myself with your
Speaker 5: pardon the expression, having met a woman who's kind of
Speaker 5: interested in me, and then I take my coat off
Speaker 5: and it's a deal breaker. It's like, no way I
Speaker 5: could be with that guy.
Speaker 3: And maybe she's not even conscious of why. She's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not a lesbian.
Speaker 7: There's probably a dozen beautiful women out there. Jack that
Speaker 7: this has happened.
Speaker 5: I was like, I can't be with a guy who
Speaker 5: takes off his jacket like me. They thought to themselves.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: Anyway back to Katie is this is just a silly
Speaker 6: story that I had actually forgot about until this conversation
Speaker 6: came up. One of my top favorite bosses of all time,
Speaker 6: and I think you know him, Paul Hawsley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul, what a good dude. Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 6: So I get off the air in San Francisco and
Speaker 6: he comes into the into the studio and he goes, hey, Katie,
Speaker 6: I need to talk to you in my office for
Speaker 6: a second. And he is stone serious, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 6: oh boy, what did I say?
Speaker 2: What did I do? Whatever?
Speaker 6: So I go into his office and he sits me
Speaker 6: down and he goes, so, what is going on with
Speaker 6: your car?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Exactly my reaction. I'm like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You get out of your car like a dude, and
Speaker 2: it's just weird. Yes, it's yeah, that was it.
Speaker 6: And he goes, you're the pictures on your car and
Speaker 6: I'm like, the pictures on my car? The only thing
Speaker 6: I have on my car is a blink one eighty
Speaker 6: two sticker on my window. And he goes, Okay, let's
Speaker 6: let's go to the garage.
Speaker 2: So in the license plate.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So we walked down to the garage and we go
Speaker 6: to the back of my car, which is parked right
Speaker 6: next to the elevator, and at this time it shows
Speaker 6: so this is like ten thirty in the morning, Okay,
Speaker 6: all over the back of my car, below the windshield
Speaker 6: or below the windshield so I couldn't see it, are
Speaker 6: triple X porn photos ripped out of the magazine. Oh
Speaker 6: it went all the way up to just about as
Speaker 6: triple X as you can get.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 6: Mortified. I looked at them, like Paul, I have keep
Speaker 6: in mind, my drive to San Francisco was about.
Speaker 2: Thirty five minutes.
Speaker 6: So I drove from home over the bridge into San Francisco.
Speaker 2: With this on the back of my car. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: So I go.
Speaker 6: Into my text messages because I hadn't checked, and people
Speaker 6: used to text message me at ungodly hours, and I
Speaker 6: see a text from one of my friends that says,
Speaker 6: hope you have a good work morning. And I knew
Speaker 6: I from this the second I saw it went it
Speaker 6: was him. He came up and walked to my house
Speaker 6: and he taped these things to the back of my car.
Speaker 6: So Paul and I had a little bit of a
Speaker 6: laugh about it. We go back up into his office
Speaker 6: and Paul goes, hey, let's call your friend. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: So I call him. I call him and I start,
Speaker 6: you know, fake crying. I'm like, Ryan, dude, my boss, really,
Speaker 6: my boss.
Speaker 2: Would like to talk to you. O my god.
Speaker 3: So this is this is the appropriate vengeance. This is
Speaker 3: making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: This is justice.
Speaker 6: So Paul has him on speakerphone and he goes, Hi, Ryan,
Speaker 6: this is this is Katie's a program director here in
Speaker 6: San Francisco, and I just wanted to discuss the images
Speaker 6: that you put on the back of her car. We
Speaker 6: actually have security from the building here as well. And
Speaker 6: you could hear Ryan going oh no, no, no, and then
Speaker 6: Paul start busting up laughing.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that that's pretty good. The reason this.
Speaker 6: Story came up is because we were talking about the
Speaker 6: weirdest reasons we've ever been called into our boss's office,
Speaker 6: and my brain went, oh, my god, that happened.
Speaker 5: Oh that is that is a good way to get
Speaker 5: back at somebody, though I would not have thought of that.
Speaker 2: That's good. God. Oh it was mortifying. Anyway.
Speaker 3: If you are doing this job and you get called
Speaker 3: into the boss's office and you're not fast forwarding through
Speaker 3: everything you said in your head, you're not doing the
Speaker 3: job right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It was a short walk to Paul's office.
Speaker 6: But I'm going, Okay, what did I I did this
Speaker 6: news story a comment?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I had no idea at all. Wed go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, we've like had serious stressful
Speaker 3: issues with people completely freaked out and pissed off some
Speaker 3: of them performatively about things we've said. And I'd say
Speaker 3: two of the three I never saw coming. No.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, every time I've gotten in trouble
Speaker 5: for saying something, it's like something I didn't even remember.
Speaker 5: I say edgy things sometimes and they go, oh boy,
Speaker 5: that might get me in trouble. That's not the one.
Speaker 5: It's the thing I didn't even think of for some reason,
Speaker 5: that usually ends up with the TV cameras outside the
Speaker 5: radio station, and.
Speaker 3: Then there is I need to come up with a
Speaker 3: name for it. It's like my white whale. It's the
Speaker 3: one thing I said once that I thought, that's it.
Speaker 3: I've ended my career. I shouldn't have said that. Whoops,
Speaker 3: And I was. I was. I was virtually certain it
Speaker 3: would be devastating, and nothing ever came of it. And
Speaker 3: you can ply me with booze. You can put me
Speaker 3: on the rack. You can the other thing, Well, the
Speaker 3: other thing might get me. I don't know, try it,
Speaker 3: but I gotta go to church. I need to get
Speaker 3: to go to church and have my ears wa washed out.
Speaker 3: And I will never admit it. I will never repeat it.
Speaker 3: It will not be repeated.
Speaker 5: Had one time we angered the Asians and every TV
Speaker 5: station sent their Asian girl reporter to the radio station
Speaker 5: to and that.
Speaker 3: Was the funny part of it. And we've seen that
Speaker 3: sort of thing. If you say something insensitive about like
Speaker 3: affirmative action for black people or something like that, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you find out every station in town
Speaker 3: happens to have a black reporter too. Wow, and they're
Speaker 3: reporting on this story. It's hilarious once you become aware
Speaker 3: of it. It's it's like one hundred Italian Americans are
Speaker 3: angered at the cancelation of the parade. We go to
Speaker 3: Luigi Praconi for a report. Come on.
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Speaker 2: What's your story?
Speaker 7: Michael, My wife has looked in the closet and says,
Speaker 7: I need to throw away all my old clothes.
Speaker 2: Basically because of fashion or size.
Speaker 4: I don't wear them and it's just taking up space.
Speaker 7: But yeah, do I I guess the question I have is,
Speaker 7: for example, we have some old towels.
Speaker 4: She wants to change out the towels.
Speaker 7: But I've told her, hey, just wash them, we can
Speaker 7: give them away to Goodwill or something like that. She
Speaker 7: wants me to throw them away. And how often do
Speaker 7: you change out towels for example? I mean, do you
Speaker 7: guys change them out?
Speaker 4: Ay rid of them?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean do you change them out every six months?
Speaker 3: No? When we're ashamed of them, that's why you you
Speaker 3: get rid of There's I don't know, you're embarrassed for
Speaker 3: people to look at them.
Speaker 5: I realize my lifestyle is not like most people's, but
Speaker 5: I don't know that I ever have in my life
Speaker 5: other than like they just get lost or something.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like you, Jack, I just keep the same
Speaker 4: towels and keep rewashing them.
Speaker 5: Yah, yeah, I've never I've never kept thirty years. I've
Speaker 5: never kept a towel long enough to wear it out.
Speaker 5: I don't think can how.
Speaker 2: Do you lose them? Like a bass? Tell what happens
Speaker 2: to them? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't have the same towels I don't have. Oh,
Speaker 5: I don't have the same towels I had when I
Speaker 5: was twenty five. But I never act, That's what I'm asked.
Speaker 5: What I'm wondering too, I've never actively gotten rid of them.
Speaker 5: You know what I do a lot, and this is
Speaker 5: not good. Is I've moved a lot in my life.
Speaker 5: I'm I had it unpacking. I'm doing this right now
Speaker 5: in my house. I have an unpacked since my last move.
Speaker 5: Like I bought some new a new screwdriver last night
Speaker 5: at the store because I don't know where my screwdriver
Speaker 5: is from the move, so I probably do that. I
Speaker 5: got boxes of old towels. I've never opened the boxes,
Speaker 5: so I had to get new towels. That's probably what
Speaker 5: I do. But no, I have never thought, does your
Speaker 5: wife do this because she wants a different look, like
Speaker 5: a different color, or is it because she thinks they're
Speaker 5: worn out?
Speaker 7: She thinks they're worn out, well, then get new towels.
Speaker 7: But what's what I'm trying to save money? And so
Speaker 7: what's a worn out towele? What is a worn out towel?
Speaker 3: It looks kind of threadbare and just blah, doesn't look
Speaker 3: nice anymore, unraveling.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't.
Speaker 7: I just figure if it washes my body and I'm
Speaker 7: happy with it, I wash them and that's it.
Speaker 2: You wash yourself with your towel.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, you dry yourself with the towel.
Speaker 2: But there you go.
Speaker 7: As far as saving money, though, I just, I just
Speaker 7: I don't want her to keep buying new stuff.
Speaker 5: And it's just well, this sounds like a thing between
Speaker 5: you and your wife. But wow, yeah, I'm not wanting
Speaker 5: to get involved in. I have opinions, but it just
Speaker 5: doesn't seem like a good idea away. And although I
Speaker 5: buy high quality towels so they would last, practically forever.
Speaker 5: I'm one of the few things and I've always been
Speaker 5: willing to splurge on. I love the feel of a good,
Speaker 5: high quality towel. Huh yeah.
Speaker 7: She wants me to throw them away, not give them away.
Speaker 7: She says, you can't give those two goodwill And I said,
Speaker 7: why not, They're perfectly fine, and she says, no, no,
Speaker 7: we've been using them.
Speaker 4: And I say, well, just wash them.
Speaker 3: You know, I would say, bring them to said charity
Speaker 3: or a charity of your choice, and if they want them,
Speaker 3: they'll take them. If they don't, they will heed them.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Katie, I've got comments, but.
Speaker 6: No, I'm just I mean, how bad of shape are
Speaker 6: they in?
Speaker 2: Michael read the newspaper through them.
Speaker 4: No, no, they're in good shape.
Speaker 2: So and I do not want to weigh in this
Speaker 2: on this at all.
Speaker 3: I'm only asking the lady wants new towels, all right, Katie.
Speaker 2: I'm only the lady or.
Speaker 5: Tells I'm only asking for information purposes. So she doesn't
Speaker 5: want to give them away because she doesn't think it's
Speaker 5: it's cool to give somebody a used towel. Correct, Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 5: by definition, I mean goodwill stuff tends to go to
Speaker 5: people that are pretty down and out usually, and I
Speaker 5: think they'd rather have a used towel of than no towel.
Speaker 2: But you can always do them.
Speaker 6: I was sorry to like the SPCA or something for
Speaker 6: the animals.
Speaker 2: Dogs don't use towels. I've watched dogs over and over.
Speaker 2: They just shake. I wish they would.
Speaker 3: Um boy does bashirt like if we walk him in
Speaker 3: the rain.
Speaker 2: Boy does.
Speaker 3: He liked to get toweled off, so it's a win win.
Speaker 3: He's not resistant to it because it feels really it's.
Speaker 5: A race between getting the towel on the dog and
Speaker 5: them shaking. And they're standing in the doorway or something
Speaker 5: like that and they shake. You got hair and splacker everywhere.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, pro tip towels in the garage. You gotta
Speaker 5: be prepped, you gotta be ready.
Speaker 2: Uh where were we?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Let the free market function, missus, Mike Lengelo.
Speaker 3: If somebody wants to buy the towels, let them. That
Speaker 3: is a coming together of a need and a fulfillment
Speaker 3: of that need.
Speaker 2: Of course, I I'm a guy.
Speaker 5: Who buys you use shoes off of eBay and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, so I mean, I think a shoe is
Speaker 5: way grosser than a towel, wash a towel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, whenever my parents go through a towel or whatever,
Speaker 6: my dad cuts it in half and uses them for
Speaker 6: the gym.
Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
Speaker 5: Or use it just for like cleaning my car, washing
Speaker 5: my car and d something like that. Yeah, that is
Speaker 5: I've done that with towels before. That's true.
Speaker 2: I have done that. They move from the drying my
Speaker 2: body to the drawing my motorcycle.
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, yeah to the garage. Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 3: win win Michael out to the garage.
Speaker 4: Huh Hey, thanks guys. So I'm not throwing them away,
Speaker 4: That's that's the bottom line. I'm not gonna throw this.
Speaker 2: You're willing to die on that hill?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I am in a couple more years out
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: Michael Tonight on DC Towel Hoarders, TLC whatever it is now.
Speaker 2: PHC is pot, that's ver well to TLC is fine.
Speaker 5: We don't want this to move to a Judge Judy
Speaker 5: situation where you got Michael and his wife yelling at
Speaker 5: each other.
Speaker 2: She wants to throw the towels.
Speaker 5: They're disgusting, she says.
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