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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the solid verbel

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Speaker 1: I woke up cold. It was mid thirties here. I'm

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Speaker 1: and the subscribers thereof or Monday Tuesday. Whatever. I am here.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska fans. We're gonna warm you up. We're gonna do

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Speaker 2: We are gonna do our level best. Every week now

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Speaker 2: seems to have a little bit of crazy in it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry in advance, Iowa fans, the reverbs got a

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Speaker 2: little aggressive this week. Oh no, your boy was in

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Speaker 2: charge of the reverbs this week. We had a little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens.

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Speaker 2: We both did the reverbs. So you're gonna get Ties

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Speaker 2: version much like Taylor's new upcoming version of Red. And

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Speaker 1: I love the Taylor Swift illusion. Tie just Taylor's version,

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Speaker 2: Without further ado, here are those week seven reverbs. Have

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Speaker 3: As an Iowa fan, I find myself begging for the

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Speaker 4: All right, This is Adam in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: This is Colin and Lincoln again.

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Big Mike from Atlanta. This is Evan

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Speaker 3: from Stowwater, Oklahoma. And I just got one thing to say,

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Speaker 3: right them Cowboys? You know I gotta say, with all

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Speaker 3: these blown league really bad off that to the second half,

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Speaker 3: don't you think it's about time Texas fires Tom Herman

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Speaker 1: Pack This is back up to doing what they do

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Speaker 1: every year, winning an early season game.

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Speaker 3: The high train gets started and then they inevitably implode

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Speaker 4: Can we please get a dramatic reading of Virginia Tech's

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Speaker 1: I don't know how, but despite our best effort that

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Speaker 3: Joined me on the list of things that disappoint my parents.

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Speaker 4: But I guess go docs win.

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Speaker 3: You're clunkers, although at this point I'm just kind of

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Speaker 3: alerts from mister Dylan Doyle today two touchdowns receiving and rushing.

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Speaker 4: Well, which you know, it's the only sure things in life.

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Speaker 1: Texas and Colorado State beating in New Mexico, Go Rams.

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Speaker 2: The two thousand and seven number two killer in Iowa

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Speaker 2: After he shut down, I would dream of a perfect season.

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Speaker 3: What the heck happened to Purdue? I mean, did Drew

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Speaker 1: But imagine how bad they would be beating them if

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Speaker 2: that Purdue always finds himself in this situation, I think

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Speaker 2: we need to talk about twenty four to seven Perdue's

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Speaker 2: Iowa Hawkeyes. Over the last seven weeks. Now, Iowa is

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Speaker 2: officially the sixth Top five team to lose. They join Alabama,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Clemson, Oregon, and just Penn State from like

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Speaker 2: a week ago. Yeah, how much of this game did

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Speaker 1: It was mentally, emotionally and spiritually exhausting. Other than watching

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Speaker 1: David Bell, Holy Moley, you know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: it was a letdown spot for sure for Iowa after

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Speaker 1: with the positivity of Purdue, and then it's something that

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Speaker 1: is not unique to us. This is not a unique

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Speaker 2: I wrote literally the exact same thing down on my

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Speaker 2: losing the turnover battle, right, and they are not getting

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's a wonderful way to win when it's

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Speaker 1: matter if that's your strategy, if that's your if that's

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Speaker 1: he was forcing things late? What four picks in this

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody believed Iowa was the number two

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Speaker 1: Where where is that for Iowa? I mean, far be

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Speaker 1: It's in a very strong place, sure, but you score

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Speaker 1: seven points at home against Purdue with attention on you,

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Speaker 1: your offense isn't ready. Your offense is not ready for

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Speaker 1: that type of close up. It was. It was a

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Speaker 2: It again, when you don't win the turnover battle and

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Speaker 2: that's the issue. And they finally played a team that

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Speaker 2: They force opposing offenses into bad spots. Yeah, that didn't

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Speaker 2: You mentioned an O'Connell David Bell eleven for two forty.

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Speaker 2: They outgained Iowa by a four sixty four to two

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Speaker 2: you want to shade it like this is what went down.

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Speaker 2: Perdue beat him straight up. And Purdue is an interesting

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Speaker 2: case now moving forward. You know, I'm not gonna sit

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Speaker 2: here on this altar and a test to Purdue going

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Speaker 2: you know, nine wins whatever. But for all their flaws,

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Speaker 2: it's not a bad defense. Between David Bell, between George carloftis.

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Speaker 1: Whoo big George is so good.

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Speaker 2: Maintains a dominant force up front. You're right, there's a

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Speaker 2: serious pluck factor there for the Purdue boiler Makers. They've

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Speaker 2: got Michigan State, They've got Ohio State left on the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Not saying Purdue's pulling more upsets, but beware of the Boilers.

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Speaker 2: This is a plucky team. They play hard. They played

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Speaker 2: this is not the first time that I've seen Purdue

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. Maybe it was just

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Speaker 2: Iowa's time for the luck to run out, But twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven. It was a thorough beatdown of the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely when I said big drum, big letdown, was not

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Speaker 1: expecting this. I don't know what do you translate twenty

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Speaker 1: eight thirteen I think this is? I think it was ugly.

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Speaker 1: Late late late late, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: any shot in that game. I would expect that we're

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Speaker 2: going to see more Anthony Richardson now moving forward because

435
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: ls's defense has been like very average thus far. They're

436
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: hurt beyond all belief. And for emvery Jones to look

437
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: as poor as he did against this defense, I'll be

438
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Speaker 2: it on the road. Just not a very encouraged to

439
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: play to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's I mean, the tenicles on this story

441
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: are going in all sorts of directions between Florida fans

442
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: and their relationship with Todd Grantham. And you know, worse

443
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: than being consistently bad is being inconsistent. And you see

444
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: them make plays against Alabama and really take it to

445
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: Alabama upfront, even though they do lose that game, but

446
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: for long stretches that Florida defense look very strong upfront

447
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: against the Tide, and then to come out and look,

448
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: seasons happen, guys get beat up. I get all of that,

449
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: but it's just Todd Grantham is a coordinator you can't

450
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: count on if you're a Florida fan. Grand lives, learning,

451
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Grantham lives and happy for LSU. It seems like they're

452
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Speaker 1: going in a direction where they're going to be looking

453
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Speaker 1: for a new coach sooner rather than later. But to

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Speaker 1: get a win against Florida ranked team. And by the way,

455
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Speaker 1: I've never seen a quarterback jump as much as Max

456
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Speaker 1: Johnston jumps. He's happy to jump as he throws the ball. Yeah.

457
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Speaker 1: I came away impressed with LSU's ability to regroup after

458
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Speaker 1: really really sluggage start to the season.

459
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the old Miss Tennessee thing.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah again.

461
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Speaker 2: Ole Miss wins thirty one, twenty six. He may have

462
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: read some headlines about this. Here's what went down. Ole

463
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: Miss stops Tennessee one yard shy of a first down

464
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Speaker 2: on a fourth and twenty four pass with like just

465
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: over a minute left something like that. After the play,

466
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Speaker 2: they go to the review, they confirm the spot of

467
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: the ball. It was very close, but indeed Tennessee was short.

468
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Speaker 2: Tennessee fans at that point start throwing stuff in the field. Yeah,

469
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: they're throwing bottles, they're throwing golf balls, which is not great.

470
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Speaker 1: Why do you have golf balls in the stadium to

471
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Speaker 1: begin with, unless they're giving them away at the door,

472
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Speaker 1: which I kind of mask. They weren't orange or.

473
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Speaker 2: No, unless they're they're playing the yellow balls that I play,

474
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: or unless they're selling them in the gift store somewhere

475
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Speaker 2: in the stadium. The only reason to bring golf ball

476
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: to the field is to throw it at clean gifven right.

477
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: What else? Empty mustard containers or maybe full mustard containers,

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Somebody pointed out that may have been a flask a flask, Okay,

480
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Speaker 1: I respect the creativity of the unusual flask. You know,

481
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: the sunscreen bottle, the mustard bottle, whatever not. The flinging

482
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Speaker 1: thereof correct, correct.

483
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: So all mayhem breaks loose. They try to get folks

484
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Speaker 2: off the field. It was like a twenty minute delay

485
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: in the last minute of the game. Here not a

486
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: good look for Tennessee fans. I'm not gonna do the

487
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 2: whole holier than now thing. Obviously, don't do it.

488
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Speaker 1: Do it now.

489
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Speaker 2: It's a few clowns. It's a few clowns that.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, here's only the reputation.

491
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Speaker 2: For a bunch of good fans who were there. It's

492
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Speaker 2: the same deal as the Iowa thing from a week ago,

493
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Speaker 2: with the booing of the injuries. Like sure, you hate

494
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Speaker 2: to paint with a broadbrush, but it was it was

495
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Speaker 2: bad luck. It was really bad luck.

496
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Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about the football first. The football

497
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Speaker 1: thing is, it was a really good game. It was

498
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Speaker 1: a really entertaining game, which I know we were very

499
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Speaker 1: hopeful for given Tennessee's offense improving and the defense improving

500
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Speaker 1: and the running game improving. Now, obviously Tyon Evans beat

501
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: up and doesn't play in this game. I thought Jamori

502
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: Small Jabari Small did a nice job, made plays for Tennessee.

503
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker had a very nice game and made plays.

504
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: And then there were a few moments of I would

505
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Speaker 1: say referee anger from Tennessee fans. Right, you had the

506
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: Matt Corral fumble, scoop and score that was then in

507
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: retrospect determined that he had finished his forward progress. But

508
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: there was never a whistle. So I'm not sure what

509
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: ole Miss or excuse me, what Tennessee defenders should be

510
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: doing if they don't hear a whistle and a quarterback

511
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: gets the ball strip like that's I get the frustration

512
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: from Tennessee fans. Now, the spot seemed okay to me

513
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: on the fourth and twenty.

514
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Speaker 2: Fourth, I think it was a right spot.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it seemed okay, and not to mention,

516
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: even not converting that Tennessee still had a shot. Joe Milton.

517
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Speaker 1: Eventually he comes in because Hendon Hooker's beat up and

518
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: he throws the ball that's just a little bit high

519
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: in the end zone for what would have been potentially

520
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: a game winning touchdown and then at the gun runs

521
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: it out, which was a little bit odd and all

522
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: all things, because I thought, you know, Matt Carrall had

523
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: a sensational game when they weren't able to get much

524
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: going on the ground. Otherwise, he was extending drives, he

525
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: was making plays with his arm. He basically willed ole

526
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Speaker 1: Miss to a win in this one on the road.

527
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: In clearly a hostile environment, which sucked because leading up

528
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: to that moment, like you have the checkerboard stadium, like

529
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: there was a terrific energy to this game, and then

530
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: you have bottles being thrown onto the field, objects being

531
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: thrown into the field, the band cheerleaders evacuating the old

532
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: Miss sideline coming out to the field to avoid getting

533
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: pelted even more, and ty, we all know that this

534
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the entire crowd. There weren't one hundred and fifty

535
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: thousand bottles on the field, but there weren't four bottles, right, Yeah,

536
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Like it was a It was a more sizable chunk

537
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: than is a couple bad apps.

538
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: It was like a Conker Calf qualifier, is what it was.

539
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: It was.

540
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: It was not just one section. They were coming from

541
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: all over the stadium Like it's we all know time

542
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: it's a sub sect of insane fans. But this is

543
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: not a fan base that needed this. No, this is

544
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: definitely not a fan base that needed another black eye

545
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: on its reputation. So if you're a Tennessee fan and

546
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: I saw, you know there's like some radio clown, you know,

547
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: marking with Pat.

548
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: Ford, and that guy's a rough morning that's a rough.

549
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Turn your attention to the terrible terrible fans,

550
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: not to other people saying those are terrible fans, Like

551
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know, it's it's awful. It's all

552
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: like that's just there's no place for it in the sport.

553
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: And like when when you see like the SEC, it

554
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: just means more. I saw somebody tweet this is not

555
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: my line that like, it may might just mean too

556
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: much in Knoxville. It might just mean a little bit

557
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: too much. We know it wasn't one hundred thousand fans

558
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: two too too too too many.

559
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Though, all right, well, good win for old Miss. By

560
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: the way, Matt Corral, you mentioned he willed the team

561
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: to victory totally. One hundred and ninety five yards rushing

562
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: for Matt Corral thirty.

563
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Carries incredible talent.

564
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: We're not We're not kidding. He had a really good game.

565
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: There's a reason why I think he's the front runner

566
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: for the Heisman at this juncture, although things could change

567
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: in a hurry. We'll talk about Caleb Williams in a

568
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: little bit when we get to Oklahoma.

569
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Speaker 1: Right.

570
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: The only other thing I want to mention here in

571
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: the SEC the Auburn Arkansas game. What a game here,

572
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: I came here. This is a great I loved it.

573
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: And we got good bow knicks in this game, which

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to say we've gotten more of good bow

575
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: knicks this year than bad bo knicks, which we had

576
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: seen in spots the previous two seasons. But the Tigers

577
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: came back early in the second half. There was a

578
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: three minute sequence of events that swung momentum completely in

579
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: their favor. They got a scoop and score after a

580
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: strip sack, they got a stop on fourth down, and

581
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: then a long touchdown pass to Demetris Robertson. The story

582
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: for Auburn was really big plays because they were outgained.

583
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: Arkansas won a lot of the big categories that you

584
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: would typically look at if you're going through the box

585
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: score trying to do a post mortem. But Auburn won

586
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: those moments which we like to talk about here on

587
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: the show, and they made big plays when it counted.

588
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks just superb. Probably his best game of the year.

589
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: Twenty one to twenty six, two ninety two and two

590
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: touchdowns through the air. Also ran for forty two, including

591
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: a long touchdown run thirty eight to twenty three was

592
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: your final really nice win for Brian Harson.

593
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: I would go as far as saying the best win

594
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: of bow Nicks's the best performance and win of.

595
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: Bon Nickx's career easily easily.

596
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: The difference to me is and it's always impressive when

597
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: he runs around and extends a play and finds a

598
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: guy in a scramble drill or picks up a long

599
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: game with his feet, whatever. But he was making plays

600
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: in rhythm. In the passing game, he had time he

601
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: stepped into the pocket. That was one. What to Demetrius

602
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: robertson one too. I think it was Javarius Johnson caught

603
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: another one of the longer touchdown passes like he was

604
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: operating within the offense, and you know, credit the offensive

605
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: line for giving him time even though they weren't opening

606
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 1: up lanes consistently for Tank Bigsby and Jarques Hunter. I just,

607
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, to go on the road to be to

608
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: have been benched not super long ago, to have faced

609
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: Georgia and had the struggles that Auburn did offensively against

610
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Georgia like everybody will, and to go to Penn State

611
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: and I thought he was fine against Penn State, but

612
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: it was just it was a disappointing loss, for sure,

613
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: But to go on the road, you know, a narrative

614
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: where you know bon Nicks is especially bad or disappointing

615
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: on the road, whatever, But to go on the road

616
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: against the defense that has had struggles in the back end,

617
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: for sure, but an Arkansas team who has been in

618
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: and won big games and perform like he did, I

619
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: thought was just crazy impressive. So good for Auburn, good

620
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: for bo Nicks. I think I thought the defense made

621
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: plays when needed. You know, Arkansas was able to drive

622
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: the field and Trailon Burks is an absolute force. kJ

623
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Jefferson is good. But for the Auburn defense to make

624
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: plays when it counted in those high leverage situations, I

625
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: just top to bottom, came away really impressed with Auburn.

626
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: A very quiet five and two. And you know, losing

627
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: to Penn State on the road in a white out

628
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: and losing to Georgia, there's no shame in either of that,

629
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: but to respond like they have really good for Auburn

630
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Speaker 1: War Eagle.

631
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, an incredible showing. Yeah for bow Knicks again,

632
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: And I think if you're an Auburn fan, like you said,

633
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: five and two, very quietly five and two. There are

634
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: some games on this schedule upcoming, I mean not the

635
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: lease of which is the Iron Bowl, that could again

636
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: give this season a boost. And I think the larger

637
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: takeaway here is that if bow Knicks can continue to

638
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: show his good qualities more often than not, you got

639
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: to feel good about what the future under Bownix looks

640
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: like at quarterbacks because he still has eligibility. I don't

641
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: expect boon Nix is leaving any time soon, so I

642
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about that.

643
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: If I'm an Auber and they have a bye week

644
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: before what Ole miss and A and M, so it works.

645
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: The schedule works out nicely, just in terms of how

646
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: it's all laid out. So yeah, something to watch.

647
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: Let's jump over to the Big twelve because there was

648
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: some interesting story lines on that side. We'll start with

649
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma State Texas game that was thirty two to

650
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Speaker 2: twenty four. How much of this game did you watch?

651
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: I was back and forth with this in LSU, Florida

652
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: for the most part in the early.

653
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: I tried to watch most of this game. Because you

654
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: may recall on the previous show I talked about how

655
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: I just I couldn't get a feel for either of

656
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: these teams. I think I took points, but maybe Texas

657
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: to win. I honestly don't recall, Yeah, but I did

658
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: take the points here. And Oklahoma State on their side,

659
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: you know, they got better. I think as the game

660
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: went on they ended up winning this one sort of

661
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: the way they've won all their games this year, with

662
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: good defense and a running game behind Jalen Warren, who

663
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: went off one ninety three on thirty three carries. He

664
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: had a really good game. And on the Texas side, again,

665
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson did what Bijon Robinson does, but not a

666
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: great game for Casey Thompson, probably his roughest go yet

667
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, through two picks, one of which

668
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: was really bad. We talked about that one this morning. Yeah,

669
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: went back eighty five yards for a touchdown. I came

670
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: away kind of blase on both of these teams. The

671
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Yeah, the Oklahoma State went to me. They're six

672
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: and zero. It's the first time since twenty fifteen you

673
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: feel good about where you're at, certainly in the Big twelve.

674
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: I think they feel confident about how they're positioned and

675
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: how they fought through all sixty minutes of this football

676
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: game to knock off Texas on the road. All that's good.

677
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: The defense in the running game, for sure, are for real,

678
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: but they're a rough watch man, They're a rough watch

679
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: Spencer Sanders. I don't know, if I don't know if

680
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: it's new. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention over

681
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: the Spencer Sanders era. Maybe it's because he's barely on

682
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: the field. But yeah, there's a little bit of old

683
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: school filled your COVID in that delivery. When he's throwing passes.

684
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: It's now you're right, it's a long release. I just

685
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: the receivers can't catch. At some point the luck's gonna

686
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 2: run out for them.

687
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: It's still, of course, but it's still so weird that

688
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's offense has fallen to the depths that's fallen two.

689
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, they to go from having bolitannikoff quality receivers

690
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: to like the great seasons of Chewba Hubbard, and they

691
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: just can't put it together. And there is something too.

692
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: It feels like Spencer Sanders has been all over the

693
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: place for seven straight years. Right, there's like a Tommy

694
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: Armstrong quality too, just like, oh it's Spencer Sanders again,

695
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: where like, Okay, he's gonna flash something that makes you

696
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: think he's turned the corner. Like the back half of

697
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the season will be crazy, and then he'll throw. He'll

698
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: have a three pick game. And so it seemed that

699
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: way at times against Texas. And there is something to

700
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: Texas fully slowing down in the second half. I mean,

701
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: to blow the game they did against Oklahoma and now

702
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: to do it against Oklahoma State and consecutive weeks. I

703
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: thought it was another game where they had six or

704
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: seven three and outs. Like there's there's the opening quarter,

705
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: the opening salvo, quarter and a half, half whatever for Texas,

706
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: and then there's the second half and second half. Steve

707
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: at the top. I hope it doesn't become a thing,

708
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: but we're seeing this offense become I don't know if

709
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: it's predictable. I don't know if it's the offensive line

710
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: wearing down, which it kind of seems like at times.

711
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: But this is not a team ready to play four

712
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: winning quarters against good teams consistently, and at least not

713
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: right now. The offensive line looks pretty shaky. The back

714
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: part of their defense looks shaky at times. The linebackers,

715
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I just they haven't been putting it together, and it's

716
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: eer one, it's whatever. My expectation for Texas was not

717
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: I think where yours was. But still the disappointing that

718
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: they're able to show what they show early on in

719
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: games then just quickly fade.

720
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the story of two teams going in

721
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: opposite directions in this game. But the way Texas started out,

722
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to blow the doors off

723
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma State. But it took Oklahoma State a little

724
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,479
Speaker 2: bit to settle into the game. Spencer Standers did get better,

725
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: to his credit, to get better as the game we're on.

726
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to demean the win. This was a

727
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: good win on the road. There's just a quality to

728
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State that I don't fully buy into yet. My

729
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: guess is just from read some of the Oklahoma State sites.

730
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: Plenty of Cowboys fans feel the same way. But they're

731
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: going to take an undefeated season however they can get

732
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: it right. It's in Iowa complex here, We'll take it.

733
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how.

734
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, No, I mean we're not giving the

735
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: defense enough credit. They were swarming. Jim Knowles has done

736
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: nothing do a great sensational job with that dsse great.

737
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: What did I call him, Sir Blitz a lot when

738
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: he came over from Duke. Yeah, he's been great, He's

739
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: been really good.

740
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay, on the other side of Oklahoma, we had the

741
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: Sooners knocking off TCU fifty two to thirty one. So

742
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 2: we got some storylines to talk about here. First off,

743
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: I think that pretty much does it for the Spencer

744
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Rattler era in Norman. Are we in agreement?

745
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: You drop fifty against TCU? Granted, maybe the worst TCU

746
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: defense of the Gary Patter scenario, unless I'm forgetting something.

747
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: They came in one hundred and fifteenth in points allowed

748
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: per drive into the game, right, and gave up what

749
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: fifty two in this one to a freshman, a true

750
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: freshman quarterback who is incredible. Obviously, he looked ridiculous. He

751
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: is the first true freshman at Oklahoma to get a

752
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: start since Cale Gundy remember him in nineteen ninety. His

753
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: final line was eighteen of twenty three for two ninety

754
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: five and four touchdowns. He also had nine carries for

755
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: sixty six yards on the ground, including a long forty

756
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown run.

757
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: So he can do it all right. Definitely seems to

758
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: have that it quality where the Heaven's part a little

759
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: bit when Caleb Williams walks out there, and it's just

760
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: really hard to see Lincoln Riley having any reason to

761
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: go back to Spencer Ratler at this point. I can't

762
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: envision a scenario unless there's an injury, you know, God forbid.

763
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: I can't imagine with the momentum he's been able to

764
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: capture through a game and a half, any reason to

765
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: go back to Spencer Ratler.

766
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Right, and I still think there is going to be

767
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: a game, be it against Oklahoma State's defense, you know,

768
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't What is the remaining schedule in terms of defenses,

769
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: look like it's probably nothing crazy other than Oklahoma State

770
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: where they have Iowa State as well. Right, Yeah, We've.

771
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: Got and we've got games against Kansas and Texas Tech

772
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: over the next two weeks, and then after the bye

773
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: it gets hard. Final three weeks are at Baylor home

774
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: against Iowa State. Sure, yeah, on the road for the

775
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: Bedlin game in Stillwater.

776
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: So one of those teams, just from Caleb Williams being

777
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: a true freshman, one of those teams is going to

778
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: throw an entirely difficult half at least at him and

779
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: whether not Oklahoma wins the game, whatever, But to see

780
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: how he'll respond to that, we'll be fascinating because right

781
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: now he looks electric with his feet, with his arm,

782
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just like here's your one read and go.

783
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: He was going through progressions at times, he was looking

784
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: off safeties at times, he was making plays outside of

785
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: the pocket at times. For a true freshman, and he

786
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: is I'm almost positive he's going to have struggles because

787
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: that just seems like it's what happens with these freshmen

788
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: put into big spots for big teams, in big scenarios.

789
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: But man with his legs, with his arms downfield, the confidence,

790
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: the decision making. I mean, yeah, poor poor Oklahoma that

791
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: they had to turn to their backup when their preseason

792
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: Heisman front runner didn't fully work out. But man, Caleb

793
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: Williams has all the makings of somebody special.

794
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, Kirk curb Street was dropping the

795
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: H word too, sure, I'm sure he was dropping the

796
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: heisman referenced in reference to Caleb Williams beca.

797
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: Any Oklahoma quarterback is going to get that benefit of

798
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: the doubt. With Lincoln Riley.

799
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: There, any Oklahoma quarterback gets the benefit of the doubt.

800
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: But it is a crazy year. It's a weird year.

801
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: There are no true front runners. Maybe Matt Corral after

802
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: what we saw in the Tennessee game, but it's not

803
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: so far beyond the realm of possibilities that that this

804
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: could be a thing. For what it's worth, I threw

805
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: five bucks on him at fifty to one earlier today.

806
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: Hey why not?

807
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 2: Because by the way, was there because I could other.

808
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: Side of the ball. Zach Evans doesn't play. Max Duggan

809
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: plays without a broken bone in his foot, so complete

810
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: worry he had. I mean, if you have the losing

811
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: efforts sound at the ready, he was great. Yeah, And

812
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: that's the other thing here. Oklahoma with an offense is great.

813
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: And Oklahoma's defense has.

814
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Improved under Alex Frinch. I think we agree that. But

815
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: the defensive showing for Oklahoma is a little bit hidden

816
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: by the gloss of Caleb Williams because they got torched.

817
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: They got torched through the air man Max Duggan and

818
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: Johnston Man. Max Duggan went off. I get that Oklahoma

819
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: is banged up in the secondary, but it's just something

820
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: to take note of because again, they've got they've got

821
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: some teams who have shown an ability to throw. They're

822
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: still in the schedule, They've got the Texas Tech game.

823
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: They can throw. We know Baylor, Gary Bohannon's had a

824
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: good year, even Brock Party and we're in b October now.

825
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: But Rock Purty looked really good in his game. So

826
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: throwing it out there, don't forget about this Oklahoma secondary

827
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: as they move forward.

828
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Something Oklahoma did, by the way, really impressively. And this

829
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: is something I think I think Dabo I don't know

830
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: if he coined the term or has just really leaned

831
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: into the term, the middle eight term the last four

832
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: minutes of the first half, the first four or the

833
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: second half. It's a seventeen to fourteen game. Oklahoma TCU ball.

834
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: They do nothing a couple minutes before halftime, and Oklahoma

835
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: immediately gets it back, drives the field, touchdown, gets the

836
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: ball at the start of the second half, touchdown, and

837
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: it goes from being tight to a looser, little looser.

838
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: And so that is a to me, a hallmark of

839
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: a very strong team, because there's nothing more infuriating as

840
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: a fan of a team than to have the ball,

841
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: to have that opportunity and to squander it and see

842
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: your opponent who you know you have to give everything

843
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: to beat take advantage, and that's what oh you is

844
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: able to do. So hopefully this is this is a

845
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: sign of more growth from the Sooners and TC. You

846
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: can go back to the drawing board and figure out

847
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: better situational play.

848
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: It might be time to move on from Gary Patterson. WHOA,

849
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: it might be time.

850
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean this defense you look

851
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: back at like so they peaked probably in twenty fourteen

852
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: with the team that was playoff ish, that was right there,

853
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: and that defense was a calling card for him, right

854
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: of course. And I don't know if it's a lack

855
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: of evolution. I don't know if it's bad development. I

856
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it's bad evaluation, bad whatever, bad injury luck.

857
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: But it's been a defense. It's been twenties, thirties, forties,

858
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a nineteenth in the country like an

859
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: impressive but then you have a step back forty to

860
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: fifty whatever. It's a bad defense right now. It is

861
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: a bad defense that gives up way too much. And

862
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you get get rid of Gary Patterson,

863
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: but I think you go back to the drawing board

864
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: in a big way about the architecture of this defense.

865
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: There's something that is amiss because we keep waiting, we

866
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: keep waiting for that tribute album to show up and not.

867
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: It's just not been good on defense. So anyway, now,

868
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: big win for Oklahoma, big game for Caleb Williams. Elsewhere

869
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve, waid Iowa State winning the Pharmageddon

870
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: game thirty three to twenty. I watched a good chunk

871
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: of this game because it was a lock of the

872
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: Week week.

873
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: No, you got this, you nailed it for yours. Truly.

874
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: K State had a chance to screw up the cover late.

875
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: They had a chance. It was a six and a

876
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: half points spread a kickoff, but wild Cats ran out

877
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: of time. Otherwise, I thought a really sound effort from

878
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: Iowa State. Rock Party missed three throws all game, no picks,

879
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: bres Hall close to two hundred yards, two touchdowns on

880
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: the ground. I am warning everybody now. I am warning

881
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: everybody now, Iowa State, when they run the table, you

882
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: have them beating oh you, when they run the table,

883
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: when they beat O you. I want you to remember

884
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: all the way back to week seven, when I told

885
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: you it was going to happen, and.

886
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: You will react accordingly. Will you will show it off.

887
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: I will pat myself on the back as I always do.

888
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: I like it your cuckoo for the Clones, and I

889
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: respect it. You've planted your flag. Yeah, Iowa State, you

890
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: were right about this that you know the results against

891
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: with a result against against Baylor, which was unfortunately a

892
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: characteristic loss for the Clones with special teams. But no,

893
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right that they deserve fear from the Big

894
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: twelve at this point if their act is relatively together

895
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: and they still have Breece Hall, they still have Breeese

896
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Hall tote in the rock. It's the same team, Gary.

897
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: It's the same team. Just don't forget about Iowa State.

898
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: You mentioned Baylor. Also luck of the week, my second

899
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: lock of the week, despite the fact that I can't

900
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: pick Big twelve teams. It turned out okay this week.

901
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: Baylor thirty eight BYU twenty four. This is a good

902
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: win for Baylor. We both had this one, at least, yeah,

903
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: both had Baylor. Gary Bohannon finally threw his first pick

904
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: of the year early in the quarter, first quarter, right,

905
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: but then pulled it together and had a pretty damn

906
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: good game. He's just really been good so far this season,

907
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: and you combine that with the tortive force of the

908
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: Baylor ground attack behind Abram Smith and Tristan Ebner thirty

909
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: eight carries for two eighty three between those two three touchdowns,

910
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: all three of them came from Smith on the ground,

911
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: a really solid effort offensively. No penalties for Baylor, no penalties,

912
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: which is helpful. They're a disciplined team. They're playing well.

913
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: They are off next week, but they finish out with

914
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Texas TCU, Oklahoma, Kansas State, and Texas Tech, So we

915
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: will find out much more about Baylor. That story is

916
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: not written fully yet, but in the early going here,

917
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: for Baylor to do what they've done, it's just damn impressive.

918
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with the job that David r And

919
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: has done with this team.

920
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I like to point out every time they

921
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: have a big win, Ty was ready to barry Gary.

922
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: He was wary of Barry.

923
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: I was wary of Gary.

924
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here we are celebrating airy Gary as he

925
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: throws the ball downfield. I have notes, I have yarn

926
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: on my walls with adjectives. Now, Baylor's good, and you

927
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: know it doesn't bring me any joy to say it.

928
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how long Dave Randa is going to

929
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: be for Waco if this thaps up.

930
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

931
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: That's interesting enough. I think his daughter goes to Baylor,

932
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: but that can all change. But we heard for a

933
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: long time that his aspirations were in the NFL, and

934
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: so I don't know if he follows Matt Rule into

935
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: that kind of world. But it's when you start, when

936
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: you look this good in year two, given what Baylor

937
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: lost after twenty nineteen, and when the offense is as

938
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: together as it is with him having his defensive background,

939
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: which to me clearly means he has delegated things. He

940
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: isn't meddling with the offense and letting Grimey do his thing,

941
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: and you have a confident offense. They're running well, they're

942
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: making places, they're not getting penalized.

943
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: Tie.

944
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: No, that's good coaching. That is discipline. That is a

945
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: staff and a personnel group that are on the same page.

946
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, it doesn't bring me joy, but Dave might

947
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: only be there for another year.

948
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: No penalty is in a big game, Yeah, big game. No,

949
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: lest don't forget this is a big game. TOTALU BYU

950
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: is undefeated until a week ago. Now they've got two losses.

951
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: So good game for Jaron Hall. By the way, we

952
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: should overlooked that.

953
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: Close start ish, but yeah, they scored early but then

954
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of went away. By the way, did you see,

955
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: speaking of just coaches, I like Kalanie Sataki on the

956
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: sideline running with Jaren Hall. Yeah, when he pulled the

957
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: zone read and say like losing his mind. I love enthusiasm, TI,

958
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: so I love seeing it from Klonie Sataki.

959
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: And he's done a good job too totally this season.

960
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: Don't don't overlook the fact that BYU had some challenges

961
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 2: coming into the year. They were one of those teams

962
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: that you know, there was some turnover there. We don't

963
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: need to talk any more quarterback. Yeah, losing your losing

964
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: your starting quarterback to the NFL and the manner that

965
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: they did. But they've put together a nice season. It's

966
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: going to remain a good season, regardless of which direction

967
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: it goes from here on out. So Baylor wins by fourteen,

968
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: thirty eight to twenty four over BYU. And finally we

969
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: had Texas Tech forty one Kansas fourteen, two hundred and

970
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: forty four yards and four touchdowns on the grind On

971
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: four Texas Tech.

972
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Dan awesome, Yeah, a quiet nice story. Is Henry Columby

973
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: coming in Columbia? Excuse me, I always screw up his

974
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: last name Colombie coming in and making plays and the

975
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: offense looking good with Matt Wells on the hot seat

976
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: coming into the year. I hope it keeps up for Tech.

977
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, didn't mention Dylan Doyle. By the way,

978
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: for Baylor, well the honorary. Every year we get a

979
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: linebacker who ends up in the backfield. Is either a

980
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: full back? Who is god? What was the guy for Stanford?

981
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Obviously we had the guy at West Virginia. They're usually

982
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: named Owen. They're usually named Owen. This was Owen Schmidt,

983
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: thank you, And this was uh, this is Dylan Doyle

984
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: who ended up in the end zone and had a sack.

985
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: So always like to see it. Let's go over to

986
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: the big ten.

987
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Couple games worth discussing. Michigan State twenty, Indiana fifteen. So

988
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: I ran up to Mamma H's yesterday.

989
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: Owen Mariesik. They are always named Owen. They as Stanford. Yeah, sorry, continue,

990
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: I was in the car.

991
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: A little bit yesterday. Ran up to Mammy h's hadn't

992
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: seen he in a while. Yeah, And so it is

993
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: listening serious XEM Channel eighty four College Football. Blitzer Boy

994
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: always Stevie speed Run, giving us the lowdown on what

995
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: goes on in college football. And he kept referring to

996
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: this game as big ten football with kind of like

997
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: that shrugging tone in his voice, you know what I mean, Like, well,

998
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: it's big ten football.

999
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: M hm.

1000
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 2: And he couldn't have been more right, Dan, Yeah, could

1001
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: not have been more right. The final was twenty to fifteen.

1002
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: The point spread was always a little weird here, just

1003
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: three and a half in favor of the Spartans. A kickoff,

1004
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: and if you've been paying attention, you get the impression

1005
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: that Vegas does not take Michigan State all that seriously.

1006
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, given the second half of the Nebraska game,

1007
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: given some struggles on offense, although I've thought Peyton Thorn obviously,

1008
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: and Kenny Walker, can we call him Kenny? Does he

1009
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: prefer Kenneth? I never know. I prefer Kenny Dubbs, but

1010
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: Kenny Dubbs sure either way. Yeah, there is part of

1011
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: the Michigan State experience that there are going to be

1012
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: offensive slogs and so doubting the undefeated potential of Michigan

1013
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: State is realist.

1014
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: It's absolutely realist. And look, this was a clunker. That's

1015
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: else he phrased it. This was a clunker. Two hundred

1016
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: and forty one yards of total offense for Michigan State.

1017
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: Peyton Thorn threw two picks. Had an awesome catch, maybe

1018
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: the catch of the day. I don't know if you

1019
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: saw that it was.

1020
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: I did see it on a trick play. He catches

1021
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: it falling backwards out of bounds, toe taps in. Yeah,

1022
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: for a nice special teams completion. Yeah, it's great. I

1023
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: would love to.

1024
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: See the numbers. I don't know if Bill Connolly has

1025
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: this on those reverse passes, the number of times the

1026
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: receiver decides are going to throw it. Yeah, because more

1027
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: often than not they should probably either just take a

1028
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: knee or throw it out of bounce or not do anything.

1029
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: But in this case, backfoot throw, heave it up. Peyton

1030
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Thorn thankfully goes up and gets it and does the

1031
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: toe tap and comes down with a really nice catch.

1032
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 2: But you know, he had a bit of a rough day.

1033
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: Two picks Walker, the third whatever you want to call him,

1034
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: held to just eighty four yards on the ground. Sparty

1035
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 2: had twelve penalties, so a clunker. It was a clunk.

1036
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: Michigan State's on by next week before they host Michigan

1037
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: on Halloween weekend. That will be a battle.

1038
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: A battle to seventeen points.

1039
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, a battle to seventeen points two weeks from now

1040
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: is going to be nuts. Clear your schedules accordingly, just oh,

1041
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: putting you on notice next week is you can kind

1042
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: of settle into it. You could be okay next week

1043
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: if you don't watch it in college football, it's fine,

1044
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: we'll give you. But it's gonna be nuts before. So

1045
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: that Halloween weekend, Halloween weekend before w and on the

1046
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: Indiana side, look, yeah, the resume is comical at this point.

1047
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: Comical comical from the standpoint of who they played. All right,

1048
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm not making fun of Indiana. They've played Iowa, Cincinnati,

1049
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: Penn State in Mission in state, and they host Ohio

1050
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: State next weekend and they still get Michigan in November.

1051
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: That's a very tough schedule. Yeah, so Tom Allen's got

1052
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: his work cut out for him. I promised I'd play

1053
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: this for Bradley or boy. Micah McFadden the defender for

1054
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: Indiana single handedly putting a bit of a dent in

1055
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: the Kenny Walker the Third Heisman campaign. Mike mcfatton had

1056
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: a really good game for the Indiana defense. But Indiana,

1057
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: they started Jack Tuttle in this game.

1058
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: Did Did you see the historic fact about Jack Tuttle?

1059
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 2: I did.

1060
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: Actually, he was one of three. He's one of three

1061
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks since two thousand. It was Tuttle Tanner. Oh, now,

1062
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: I forget his last name. The wake Forest quarterback Tie Tanner,

1063
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: and I always want to see Stanner Morgan. But it

1064
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: was Tanner, Price and Brady Quinn who have thrown the

1065
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: ball at least fifty two times but were held under

1066
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: two hundred total passing yards.

1067
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: Crazy.

1068
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: That's rough. That's rough.

1069
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: Any other thoughts in this game before we move on?

1070
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: No good for Michigan State for winning a clunker. You

1071
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: get the pick six to make it comfortable. I mean

1072
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: they get the pick six early on. But no good

1073
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: for you know, you stay undefeated, do whatever you can.

1074
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: Minnesota thirty, Nebraska twenty three.

1075
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: PJ. Fleck was fired up.

1076
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: He jumped into the eager arms of a big old

1077
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: police officer after the w here big bro hug, I

1078
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that Tanner Morgan threw two

1079
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: picks but was damn near perfect otherwise, Yeah, he was

1080
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: really good. He got Chris Autman bell back. Do you

1081
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 2: have the bell side? Thank you?

1082
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: You know I do.

1083
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: Eleven for one to oh three and a touchdown through

1084
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: the air.

1085
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Minnesota is fourard two.

1086
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: Now. I've been talking them down all year saying how

1087
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: bad this team is. Yeah, they're definitely not great, but

1088
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 2: they've had injuries. They're much better than I've been giving

1089
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: them credit for. And listen to the next six games Maryland, Northwestern, Illinois, Iowa,

1090
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: Indian in Wisconsin.

1091
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: Can they win two of those?

1092
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: Yes they can. Can they go to a bowl game?

1093
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 2: Yes they can't, so they were or five of those.

1094
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: Keep your eyes trained on Minnesota. Do not forget about Minnesota.

1095
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: They're a good reason not to be and same with Purdue.

1096
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: To be absolutist about September. Right that teams are going

1097
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: to just disappear for a week. The best teams don't.

1098
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: But most teams are going to mail in a couple

1099
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: weeks for whatever reason, because of injury, because of lack

1100
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: of focus, because of distraction of some kind. They're college kids.

1101
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: It's going to happen impressed by Minnesota. This was a

1102
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: game they you know, they Nebraska moved the ball, but

1103
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: they came up big in big spots in the red zone.

1104
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: Nebraska had opportunities and they were squandered. And that's you know,

1105
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: what is Scott Frost now five and seventeen in one

1106
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: possession games in Nebraska? I mean, what is the perception

1107
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: of him if he is eight and eight, if he

1108
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: is ten and eleven, like five and seventeen. I mean,

1109
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: my math tells me that he would have been eleven

1110
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: and eleven if we're going to talk about twenty two games.

1111
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just does there never seems to be

1112
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: a plan. The red zone has been quite ugly. The

1113
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: last five minutes of games have been quite ugly. Not

1114
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: saying anything Nebraska fans don't already know.

1115
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: No, they had I counted three real opportunities in the

1116
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: second half here yep, where they were in Minnesota territory.

1117
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: They got stood up at the goal line, they missed

1118
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 2: a kick. What they had a turnover on they turned

1119
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: the ball over on four downs deep inside Minnesota territory

1120
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter as well.

1121
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the story against Michigan early right, Well,

1122
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: that was, you know, driving the field and not picking

1123
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: up a fourth and short deep in Wolverine territory.

1124
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, frustrating. Okay. Wisconsin twenty Army fourteen. Yeah, I didn't

1125
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: watch any of this, so look, I watched a little

1126
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: forgive me.

1127
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: It's okay.

1128
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: Wisconsin had control of this game because of their defense.

1129
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: That's been the Wisconsin story. And the defense forced a

1130
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: really big fumble deep in Army territory late in the

1131
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. They ran it in from a yard away

1132
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: that sealed the deal for Wisconsin. This is still a

1133
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: very broken offensive team. Yeah, and Wisconsin had almost as

1134
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: many rushing attempts as Army did. Yeah, so they need

1135
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: to figure this thing out. They should be beating Army

1136
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: by more than six, granted a bit of a garbage

1137
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: time score for Army, but nonetheless, you've come to expect

1138
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: more from Wisconsin. But I think what we know of

1139
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: this season is that it's not going according to the

1140
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: plan for Paul Chris. So I look for improvement week

1141
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: to week. I don't know if I've seen it quite yet. Right,

1142
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: twenty to fourteen does not leave me feeling all that satisfied.

1143
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: It was God's a football fan, but you'll take the

1144
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: w Yeah, I mean, there's been at least what one running.

1145
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Berger was just dismissed from the team,

1146
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I didn't see the details of that,

1147
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: but Wisconsin certainly trying to find solutions on offense wherever

1148
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: they might be. Graham Hertz was I don't know from

1149
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: what I could tell. Okay, I mean, Army is a

1150
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: decent enough to fam. It's a very tricky team to

1151
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: beat if they're operating. But yeah, I suppose good for

1152
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin for winning this game, But you know, were there

1153
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: were other games that took priority, and for my own

1154
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: mental health, not watching the Wishounson offense was beneficial.

1155
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go through the PAC twelve here quick,

1156
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: and then we'll close out with the ACC. We had

1157
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: five games of note in the Pac twelve. We had

1158
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: Utah thirty five twenty one over Arizona State. We had

1159
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: Oregon twenty four to seventeen. This one was played on

1160
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: Friday night over cal Ucla twenty four to seventeen, over

1161
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: Washington Wazoo thirty four, Stanford thirty one, and Colorado blanks

1162
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: Arizona ooh thirty four. To nil. That one played fulsome field.

1163
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: He had a caller, Yeah, call in say no, he

1164
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: scores at fulsome fields. So there you go. Where you

1165
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: want to start here, Dan, you want to start with Oregon?

1166
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have much to say. I went

1167
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: through this game relatively quickly. I didn't stay up Friday night,

1168
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: because again, when you don't have to watch an offense

1169
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: and it'll help your mental health, maybe you should take

1170
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: that opportunity. Yeah, I watched this. I skim through this

1171
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: game yesterday morning early, and I don't know, it seems

1172
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: like it's more of the same. I know Organ's beat

1173
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: up on defense, but Oregon right now is around a

1174
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: cal Stanford Arizona type team. Given their results in the conference,

1175
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: it's not a difficult Pac twelve by any stretch. Oregon

1176
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: is the most talented team. They are a team that

1177
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: has not fired their coach, and they cannot distance themselves,

1178
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: especially at home, from games where they just can't seem

1179
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: to get up. Anthony Brown made a couple more plays downfield,

1180
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: but missed too many throws rocketing short crossing routes. The

1181
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: defense had untimely penalties, and I don't know, I'm we're

1182
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: in year four of Mario Cristobal and it's more of

1183
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: the same, something like five of five and fifteen as

1184
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: a favorite ad Otson covering the spread that just with

1185
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: a more talented team, they don't distance themselves from clearly

1186
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: lesser teams. They make mistakes late, They're in these tight

1187
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: games against these struggling teams, struggling defenses like Callen Stanford,

1188
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: and I'm nearing the point if I'm not already there

1189
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: where Oregon just is what they are under Mario Christobal.

1190
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: They're unable to figure things out at quarterback when they

1191
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: have a great one or a less than great one

1192
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown and I don't know, it just seems

1193
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: like a very specific strategy for Mario christaball teams. And

1194
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're playing way off the ball on defense

1195
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: and giving receivers space. Doesn't seem to be working out.

1196
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: That just this is what it is. Oregon's gonna win

1197
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of games. And I don't really look forward

1198
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: to watching Mario cristaball Oregon games. I don't know what

1199
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: to tell you.

1200
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the end of this game, and uh,

1201
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: callut a chance to win or at least a tie.

1202
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: Let's say, yeah, they were deep, ready, deep in there.

1203
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they had an opportunity. They weren't able to convert,

1204
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: but they had it. They had a run at it,

1205
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: and I was surprised as well that this game was

1206
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: as close as it is. But you called it. You

1207
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: said they're gonna win by seven. So cal plus the

1208
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half points cash the bet.

1209
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: Pretty happy Oregon got Ohio State when they did, because

1210
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: that's seeming more and more like an aberration that, you know,

1211
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: Mario Chris ball teams get up for huge games and

1212
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: just try to draft the rest of the way. I

1213
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: don't know, It's not fun.

1214
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: Utah won thirty five to twenty one. They trailed twenty

1215
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: one seven at half and then decided they were going

1216
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: to mount a second half charge. They scored twenty eight

1217
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: unanswered points to knockoff ASU. What a turn of events, man,

1218
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: I tell you. A big part of this was Cam Rising.

1219
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Cam Rising, who our very own Travis Mayonsliverble dot com.

1220
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: If you don't go out every Tuesday and read speaky stats.

1221
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: He talked about Cam Rising and how the Utah offense

1222
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: was thirty percent more efficient under him than it was

1223
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: under Charlie Brewer. Cam Rising goes thirteen of fifteen in

1224
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: the second half to lead this charge back and to

1225
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 2: ultimately win by fourteen points. An incredible tale of two

1226
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: halves here, ASU. If you watched any part of this

1227
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: game early had Utah on their heels in the first half. Yeah,

1228
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: and they were chaining together, big plays, explosive plays. You're thinking,

1229
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: how is Utah going to put this thing back together?

1230
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: But totally different story after halftime. You got to give

1231
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 2: Utah credit again. We've called out a number of times

1232
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: now the adversity that they're going through as a team,

1233
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: but just a sound coaching effort from Kyle Whittingham to

1234
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: first off, get Cam Rising on the field and then

1235
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: secondly to not give up at halftime when things clearly

1236
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: did not feel like they were going in the Youth's way.

1237
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: So good for them. We had a caller talk about

1238
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: Youth being a first place to pack twelve souths, So

1239
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: good on them.

1240
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Utah coming on strong. I mean, it would be

1241
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: nice if they played two halves in some of these games.

1242
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, Lvi Bunkley Shelton had a hell of a

1243
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: play for ASU. They ran the ball well in the

1244
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: first half Jayden and Daniels was dealing thirteen penalties for ASU.

1245
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: They thought they had kind of turned a corner in

1246
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: terms of discipline, and penalties didn't happen against Utah. And

1247
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose good for the youth surviving those

1248
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: couple picks from Cam rising and seem like a pretty

1249
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: complete performance. You got the Briton Covey play that you

1250
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: always like when a receiver is going to throw the

1251
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: ball but then decide, m let's not and picked up

1252
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: a first down doing so. And Utah I would say

1253
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: that they the Utah Ucla game is going to decide

1254
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: almost maybe the conference after UCLA beat Washington the way

1255
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: that they did. But I don't even know. These two

1256
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: teams are so inconsistent. Ucla gets kind of blown out

1257
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: by ASU. Utah has some issues still in playing complete games.

1258
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: But Utah certainly one of the teams that has has

1259
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: been ascending in the conference and good to see for

1260
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: a conference that needs it badly.

1261
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: Do you have anything to add on the UCLA win,

1262
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: the Wazoo win, or the Colorado shutout of Arizona.

1263
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: No, I mean, the Washington offense is a mess, remains

1264
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: a mess. UCLA did a pretty good job. They got

1265
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: beat you know, downfield a couple times. But yeah, Zach

1266
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: Charbony is crazy fun to watch. The UCLA defense made

1267
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: plays in the passing game especially, and got after Dylan Morris.

1268
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: ZTF came back for Washington by the way, yeah out

1269
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: of nowhere? How I mean Jimmy Lake has mentioned it,

1270
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: but like just an achilles injury to come back as

1271
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: quickly as he did six months something like that. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1272
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 1: I have been over spring Wazoo with a really nice

1273
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: comeback win against Stanford. Stanford tries like hell to sort

1274
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: of generate those those PI opportunities, those receivers, but a

1275
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: really nice comeback win. They fall down relatively late, but

1276
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: Jaden de Laura leads a charge. Max Borgi had a

1277
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: really nice game. He and Dion McIntosh have been splitting

1278
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: time in that backfield. It feels like Max Borgie has

1279
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: been around forever. Don't know what Nick Rolovich's future is

1280
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: going to be, given all that that swirls around the

1281
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: vaccine mandate in Washington and his refusal to get it.

1282
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: But really nice for Wazoo to to sort of stay

1283
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: in a game for four quarters. They've been fading early

1284
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: on in the season and mount the comeback that they did.

1285
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Speaker 2: Let's close it out with the acc DAN.

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: We had Pit.

1287
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: By twenty one over Virginia Tech. We had NC State

1288
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: by twenty six over Boston College. We had the Clemson

1289
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: three point win in the Carrier Dome, which you heard.

1290
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't have the sound, but it's fun.

1291
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: Seventeen to fourteen. This one was played on Friday. Virginia

1292
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: blanks Duke forty eight to nil. And as we talked

1293
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: about on the Solid Saturday live stream, it wasn't a

1294
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: marquee matchup. It looked like it could have been one

1295
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: at the start of the season before we got into

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: this thing. But North Carolina Miami was a fun game.

1297
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,959
Speaker 2: It ended up being a very fun game.

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it was fun for either North Carolina

1299
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: or Miami fans for the rest of us, for the

1300
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: rest of taining, for.

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: The rest of us. Forty five to forty two. Let's

1302
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: start at the top here with the Pit game. This

1303
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: was not close. This was not a close game. Pit

1304
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: led twenty eight to nothing with about nine minutes left

1305
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, one hundred and forty yards on

1306
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: the ground for Israel. Abbana Kanda love the name and

1307
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: the Pitt Panthers Virginia Tech out gained four eleven to

1308
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: two twenty four rough outing for Braxton Burmeister, really rough outing.

1309
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: Windy affair in Blacksmith, very windy affair. Pitt is now

1310
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: in this spot where they're five and one. They play

1311
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: host to Clemson next week. They've got Miami, Duke, North Carolina, Virginia,

1312
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: and Syracuse left on the schedule. Stands to reason, Hm,

1313
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: you get by Clemson, who I still think is probably

1314
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: the best of those teams that are remaining on the.

1315
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: Schedule without evidence appearing quite clearly right now, But okay.

1316
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 2: You could talk yourself into an eleven to one pit. Sure,

1317
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: it's not that, I mean, what is Kenny Pickett? Is

1318
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett clearly the best quarterback in the ACC. He

1319
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: might have to be Dan I don't know.

1320
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean Devin Lear, Sure, and Devon gets to throw

1321
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: to a Devon and Devin Carter who makes ridiculous catches

1322
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: every week, it seems so, I don't know if Kenny

1323
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: throws to a Kenny, so there's an advantage there. But eitherwise,

1324
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: on Sam Howell's season, not necessarily his fault, but it

1325
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been Sam Howell's season. It hasn't been you know fully,

1326
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Tracks arms Street Milton season. Jeff Sims Briton Armstrong

1327
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: has been fine, He's been impressive. But I think Kenny

1328
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: Pickett is It's hard to make a case against Kenny

1329
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: Pickett is the clear best quarterback in the ACC right now, right.

1330
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: Pit one by twenty four, Sam Hartman by twenty one. Yeah,

1331
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: we had NC State by twenty six. This was the

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: kind of game that NC State needed to win. They

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: needed to prove that they could go on the road

1334
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: and play against a decent team, at least in Boston College.

1335
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: Sort Of a slow first half, but they picked up steam,

1336
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: leaned on their defense, created turnovers and short fields, and

1337
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: then they were really good at executing in the second half.

1338
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: Twenty three unanswered points for the wolf Pack. As they

1339
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: go on the road to win, we will have to

1340
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: follow their plate now moving forward, because NC State seems

1341
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: to have something of an inside lane in getting to

1342
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 2: that ACC championship game. Oh yeah, the Clemson game. We

1343
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: sort of alluded to it earlier in the show, and

1344
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: if you watched any of the live stream we did

1345
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: on Saturday, we talked about this game, but Clemson was

1346
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: outgained on the road at Syracuse. Syracuse had Sean Tucker

1347
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 2: go for one p fifty six on the ground, which

1348
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 2: in and of itself I think was a feed against

1349
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,440
Speaker 2: this defense. It's a team that's banged up in Clemson.

1350
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: It's an offense that I think we've acknowledged at this

1351
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 2: point is somewhat broken. We don't have to dunk on Clemson,

1352
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: but sure Syracuse had their opportunity here to knock off Clemson.

1353
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: They weren't able to get the job done. But this

1354
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 2: it just does not feel like it is getting better

1355
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: per se at Clemson. DJU, as one of our callers

1356
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: pointed out, has Clemson to a point where they're just

1357
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: sort of interesting adjacent and that's not where the Tigers

1358
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: thought they were going to be at this point through

1359
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: seven weeks of the college football season.

1360
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: When people throw my silly terms back at me in

1361
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: serious ways, it makes me unreasonably happy. I'm so happy

1362
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: when that happens. I saw somebody, I don't know if

1363
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: it was on Twitter or some site or whatever wherever,

1364
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: it was, somebody in a thought exercise, what is Clemson's

1365
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: record with a replacement or even just slightly more than

1366
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: replacement level defensive coordinator, Like, do they if they have

1367
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: the twenty eighth best national defensive coordinator, are they one

1368
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: in five?

1369
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: It's a great question. It's a great question.

1370
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: Getting by BC with a backup quarterback, barely, getting by

1371
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech barely, Yeah, losing to Georgia getting by Syracuse barely.

1372
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: No, it's a great thing.

1373
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 1: Point, are not good?

1374
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's not good. Clemson wins, but it's not.

1375
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily getting better on offense.

1376
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: Has has a coach ever saved his job by losing impressively?

1377
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: Because Dino Baber's at this point, with the way they

1378
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: lost to Wake, with the way that they lost to Clemson,

1379
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: Dino may have saved his job by simply I mean, look,

1380
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: the Tony white Hire defensive coordinator was unquestionably very strong.

1381
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: The move to Garrett Trader has been very strong. The

1382
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: running game with Sean Tucker has been very strong. But

1383
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: it is kind of interesting. I don't know what his

1384
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: biot is. Maybe he wasn't getting dismissed anyway, but it's

1385
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: interesting to think about.

1386
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: And we'll close out the acc with the UNC Miami game.

1387
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: Sam Hall accounts for four touchdowns. Again, he's the primary

1388
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 2: focal point of this offense. He had one four and

1389
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: two touchdowns through the air. On the ground, seventeen carries

1390
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: for ninety eight yards. Yeah, and two touchdowns. He is

1391
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: the offense. I feel like Miami's kind of on the

1392
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: verge of collapse at this point. Both of these teams

1393
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: are they're they're They're now down to Cameron Harris, who

1394
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 2: left on the first drive of the second half. They're

1395
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: leading rusher. Has not been a good season for Manny Diaz,

1396
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: Coral Gables.

1397
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: No, no between the injuries obviously highlighted by Derek King.

1398
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a ton of this game. I skimmed

1399
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: through it pretty quickly this morning, and I was entertained

1400
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: by it. But yeah, two teams absolutely reeling that I

1401
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: really didn't see.

1402
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: Now, no one did, No one did, No what.

1403
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: Else do we got here?

1404
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: Otherwise? We mentioned the Cincinnati win earlier. San Diego State

1405
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: needed double overtime.

1406
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: It was sixteen thirteen. What was the final?

1407
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: It was?

1408
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the final was nineteen thirteen. It was six six

1409
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: at the end of regulation. What else do we have?

1410
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: Billy Zappie another man create we have to get Billy Zappie.

1411
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: On the show.

1412
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if he does podcasts, but you need

1413
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: to talk to me.

1414
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: And I have a sound for him. We had a

1415
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: Tuesday night game. Louisiana obliterated app State. Yep, right, otherwise

1416
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. Marshall quietly has gotten to four and

1417
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: three and they lost there. It's Purdue's defensive coordinator, Brad

1418
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: Lambert was the one who was doing such a good

1419
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: job for the Thundering Herd. So a nice little addition

1420
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: there for the Boilers.

1421
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: Yukon won a game tie, Yes they did.

1422
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: Was it against an FBS team? Don't ask, you're asking

1423
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: too many questions. It was against Yale and they kind

1424
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: of snuck by Yale twenty one to fifteen. Tulsa improving

1425
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: once again. They win late in a comeback win against USF.

1426
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo wins late or they win close anyway, Sorry, I

1427
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: lost the score. There was twenty seven to twenty six,

1428
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: and it was a furious comeback for the Bulls over Ohio.

1429
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: Who ARMANI Rodgers had a long run. That's about as

1430
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: much as I can say that's good about Ohio this year.

1431
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 1: You mentioned Virginia Duke, I don't know how much else.

1432
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: And Toledo's having a disappointing year. And I used running

1433
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: back Jay Ducker had a dude game. He ran for

1434
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards. Fresno State blanked Wyoming. I got

1435
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: some suggestions for making this divorce act. I don't think

1436
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: I will, but yeah, Fresno State five and two, right, yeah,

1437
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: that's the thing. To Fresno State playing playing well. I

1438
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: don't know how much else. Colorado State had a great

1439
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 1: kicking game, if that impresses you, as they beat New

1440
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: Mexico UNLV so close to finally winning a game at home.

1441
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that, Like the players

1442
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: get around a what's it called a slot machine. That's

1443
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: like their big celebration thing. But they lose to Utah State.

1444
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: Otherwise I don't know. Liberty lost as like thirty two

1445
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: point favorites. Did you see that to Monroe?

1446
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I did. Oh my god, that's not good.

1447
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: And UTEP is ball eligible tie Louisiana tack they be

1448
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: law Tech nineteen to three. Air Force by the way,

1449
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: gets to six and one as they beat Boise in Boise.

1450
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: Nevada beats Hawaii, and I'm pretty sure didn't youtsa blow somebody.

1451
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: Out utsa won forty five to nil.

1452
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: They won forty five Roadrunners they're seven and oh Jeff

1453
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: Trailor's road runners. Ty, come on, sincere McCormick, you're feeling good.

1454
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: Huetting great, feeling great? Okay, shall we go to our

1455
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: dood alerts and close this out? Let's who were our

1456
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: dudes four weeks there?

1457
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: Dan, it was I mentioned Ducker for NIU, but Ty

1458
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: Davis Price is at the top for me. David Bell,

1459
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: Chris Ottman, Bell, Double Bell, Bo Nicks, Caleb Williams, Oklahoma

1460
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: States Defense. Just in general the way that they got

1461
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: better over the course of that game, Matt Corral, Bailey's

1462
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: Appy Breese Hall, Drove Ford, and I have here Quintin

1463
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: Johnston for TCU as well, who, by the way, had

1464
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: a touchdown catch on a ball that went through his

1465
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: arms that he kneed back up into his chest and

1466
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: caught and continued running with. So yeah, the Max dug

1467
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: In Quintin Johnston connection was impressive, but again in a

1468
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: losing effort. So those are my dudes. Oh and Dylan

1469
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: Doyle once again, come on, I'll mention him twice. That

1470
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: went two ways. I always appreciate that, especially when he's

1471
01:14:59,200 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: not named Owen.

1472
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: Alrighty, well, we appreciate everybody stopping on by. We had

1473
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: a ton of participation this week through social media. Our

1474
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: discord over on for bawlers dot Com was just teaming

1475
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: with college football fans talking about the games. On Saturday,

1476
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 2: we had a ton of calls to four oh eight

1477
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: Verbal one. I would encourage everybody to go on out

1478
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: to our Instagram, go and follow the soliverbal Instagram maybe

1479
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: Tuesday afternoon ish Tuesday morning, we'll post the extended cut,

1480
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: the Dylan version of our reverbs because there are other

1481
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: callers that I know he's featured on his that I

1482
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: did not have an opportunity to feature online. So if

1483
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: you called Dan, and if you didn't hear yourself, follow

1484
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: us on Instagram. We'll post that version of it. I

1485
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 2: don't want that to go to waste, because he did

1486
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: a really good job mixing all your calls together. Yes,

1487
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: late last night.

1488
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: Did Owen Schmid play linebacker? I know he was a fullback,

1489
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: and now I'm questioning myself. I've been thinking about it

1490
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: for like a half hour. I think he may have

1491
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: just played fullback.

1492
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,520
Speaker 2: Either way, I don't remember. Still impressive either way, damn impressive.

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Speaker 2: Week eight we will discuss on our preview show again.

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Speaker 2: That previews show is going to be available early to

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Speaker 2: our Patreon subscribers at for bawlers dot com. You can

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Speaker 2: get that on Tuesday afternoon. Everybody else you'll be able

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Speaker 2: to hear that on Wednesday morning, as we've been dropping

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Speaker 2: all of our previous shows and all of our shows

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Speaker 2: this season, six am Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

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Speaker 1: Dan, there are two and a half, three and a

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Speaker 1: half interesting games next week. I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: I mean, USC Notre Dame. I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: feel about that. It's a it's a different kind of

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Speaker 1: slate next week got lsu ol miss Oklahoma State, Iowa State,

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Speaker 1: Oregon UCLA with Chip Kelly matchup. I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: it's different, that's all I am. We'll have fun with it.

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Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: for myself, Ty Hillebrand, thanks so much for downloading, for listening,

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Speaker 2: for supporting the show. We will be back in just

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Speaker 2: a few short days. In the meantime, has always stay

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Speaker 2: solid peace MHM.