WEBVTT - Jimmy Patsos joins Heat Check

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, come home, Come home, Come home, Come home, Come.

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<v Speaker 2>Home.

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<v Speaker 3>On this episode of the Heat Check, we are joined

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<v Speaker 3>by our favorite coach, coach Jimmy Patzos, former Coldgate coach

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<v Speaker 3>who is also our basketball insider, here to break down

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<v Speaker 3>the final playing games.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've got some doozies here.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul George apparently isn't playing he got COVID as well

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<v Speaker 3>as give us some insight into this year's crop of

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<v Speaker 3>rookies and how they played out this season. So do

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<v Speaker 3>me a favorite rock and drop that beat?

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect pray?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you going on?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>First and foremost, welcome coach to the show. What are

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<v Speaker 3>you looking at? You got getting up out of your seat?

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<v Speaker 5>We loved you.

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<v Speaker 4>We've muted yourself. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not muted?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Am?

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<v Speaker 5>I good? Yeah? All right, let's go. We're ready. I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, all right? So where'd you go? You went

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<v Speaker 4>and got a book?

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I keep lists, I keep I use I'll use

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<v Speaker 5>Lindy's Sports for college and pro. I'll read the New

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<v Speaker 5>York Post. I do stuff online, but I also keep

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<v Speaker 5>my own lists. Like on draft night, so it was

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<v Speaker 5>running to get my folder. We're gonna talk about Draft night.

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<v Speaker 5>Should we have taken Scottie Barnes ahead of sug It's

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<v Speaker 5>clearly a good decision.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's like, that's a main one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's first and foremost talk about these playing games, because

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<v Speaker 3>I have so many questions about last last draft class.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many good like intriguing storylines. But first and

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<v Speaker 3>foremost Istlanta Hawk's played Cleveland. Uh, Cleveland is a two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half point dog. This is not a betting show.

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<v Speaker 3>This is but I just wanted to say what the

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<v Speaker 3>line was. And you know, here's the interesting thing. Cleveland

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<v Speaker 3>is going to give it a go. Apparently Jared Allen

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<v Speaker 3>is going to play right, and that's who knows how

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be. You got bogged on who's questionable with

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<v Speaker 3>an ankle sprain? Obviously no John Collins because he has

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<v Speaker 3>a finger issue as well.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think happens? Like, how do you see this?

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<v Speaker 4>This game?

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<v Speaker 3>This you know, winner go home game playing playing out,

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<v Speaker 3>especially since Atlanta has only really played well in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Atlanta has size though with Capella. Now, Bogdanovitch

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<v Speaker 5>is important because he's great out. He's a great, great

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<v Speaker 5>shooter off the bench, Gallinari gives him some experience. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's about Trey Young Herder and DeAndre Hunter. They're tall

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<v Speaker 5>and herd Her and Hunter big guards that can defend

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<v Speaker 5>by the way Herd her That's the steel that they

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<v Speaker 5>got in the twenties. A couple of years ago, was

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<v Speaker 5>at that combine when he played well. Day one shut

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<v Speaker 5>it down. Day two went to the Hawks because he

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<v Speaker 5>got a great move. DeAndre Hunter will always play defense

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<v Speaker 5>because he's a Tony Bennett guy. Another good pick took

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<v Speaker 5>him a year or two. Some guys like Scottie Barnes

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<v Speaker 5>play right away. You got Mobley on the other side.

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<v Speaker 5>Can he score enough? Can he step it up? It's

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<v Speaker 5>about Jared Allen. Jared Allen has to play. He's been

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<v Speaker 5>out six weeks with a broken finger. You have to try.

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<v Speaker 5>I got three of the plans right, Trista and I

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<v Speaker 5>got the Hawks one wrong. I thought the guards. I

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<v Speaker 5>thought the Hornets might come up with Gordon Haywood doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>play what I don't understand. I guess I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 5>with this. It's a one game survive in advance. A

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<v Speaker 5>couple of years ago, we were all kind of making

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<v Speaker 5>fun of the playing is it good enough. What's the deal?

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<v Speaker 5>You know where out of the summer league you hear

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<v Speaker 5>about it, and last year was a little quirky, although

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<v Speaker 5>the Wizards took advantage of it. I think it's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually think whoever thought of it was I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>They were right. I thought it should be seven ten,

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<v Speaker 5>eight nine, a little play in that way, blah blah blah. Nope,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a good format. Cleveland gets to go home.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't look terrible against the Nets, but Marketing missed

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<v Speaker 5>too many shots. I saw the Calves this year against

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<v Speaker 5>the Whiz, I thought they were gonna win the whole

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<v Speaker 5>championship because it was one of those nights. Okoro Garland,

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<v Speaker 5>Ricky Rubio was still playing market and making threes. Jared

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<v Speaker 5>Allen defended the paint mobley free to Rome Kevin Love

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<v Speaker 5>making threes. They had seven guys with Rubio and Love

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<v Speaker 5>off the bench. Now they had injuries. They've hit a

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<v Speaker 5>wall and Marketing can't score anymore. They're going home, backs

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<v Speaker 5>against the wall. Chance to survive. Go play the Heat,

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<v Speaker 5>who we all know is a little vulnerable. Probably the

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<v Speaker 5>best team that doesn't have a star is the Heat.

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<v Speaker 5>So like all this comes into play back to we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to talk about the draft. You got Mobley and

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<v Speaker 5>you got Hrder, Trey Young and Hunter. The only person

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<v Speaker 5>the Hawks missed on the last three years was Reddish,

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, Reddish has some flaws. He doesn't really

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<v Speaker 5>like basketball that much in my opinion. Sorry, that's what

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<v Speaker 5>I think. I don't think he loves the game. But

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<v Speaker 5>you got Hurder, Hunter and Trey Young. You hit good.

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<v Speaker 5>Coral is pretty good for the Calves. Solid armor guy,

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<v Speaker 5>but now they're hitting on Mobile. Who's gonna get Rookie

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<v Speaker 5>of the Year, So like it's gonna be a fascinating game.

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<v Speaker 5>Who can take over? Like you said, the Hawks don't

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<v Speaker 5>play well at home, but they do play defense, and

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<v Speaker 5>Nate McMillan has always gotten guys to play d and

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<v Speaker 5>they played defense. The other night. They locked up the Hornets,

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<v Speaker 5>Rosier and and Ball couldn't score. You know, they just

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<v Speaker 5>didn't look good. But they didn't have going Haywood. If

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<v Speaker 5>Jared Allen plays tonight, I think the Calves can win.

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<v Speaker 5>They're at home, they're tough. What do the Hawks have,

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<v Speaker 5>Nate McMillan, They got experience from last year. They've kind

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<v Speaker 5>of been waiting around. They started slow, but they need

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<v Speaker 5>Bogdanovitch because that guy A he's a feisty defender, he

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<v Speaker 5>makes jumpers, and he's got experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that the injury to Jared Allen like

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<v Speaker 3>he should even be playing? Because the thing that's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to me is like when Trey played against the Calves,

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<v Speaker 3>all these four games that they've played, he's gotten to

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<v Speaker 3>the line like a crazy amount of I want to say,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gotten to the line like eight to ten times

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<v Speaker 3>in each of those occurrences. He's scoring on average like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two and a half points. Like Jared Allen obviously

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<v Speaker 3>helps them be able to defend without without fouling Trey,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I guess, do you think the X factor of

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<v Speaker 3>this is all about Jared Allen and how effective he is?

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<v Speaker 5>I do. I loved him. I liked him in Texas,

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<v Speaker 5>but I loved him on the nets. I saw him,

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<v Speaker 5>like I said, I do the Wizards pre and post

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<v Speaker 5>game and back in the day. You can go to

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<v Speaker 5>the games, you know before COVID we'll be back there too.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been in the studio the last two years. I

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<v Speaker 5>saw Jared Allen warming up. I saw how tall along

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<v Speaker 5>he was. I saw his attention to detail on defense.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants to be a I love his hair. He

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<v Speaker 5>got a great throw and all that. That guy wants

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<v Speaker 5>to play d He's super pride. He's taken the next step. Sure,

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<v Speaker 5>he broke his finger and the one game thing, I

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<v Speaker 5>think both him and Collins. If you can play, he

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<v Speaker 5>should play. If that's what they because they're missing a

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<v Speaker 5>little depth at the four. Yeah, Hawks and Jared Allen

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<v Speaker 5>if he can help. Look, it's just no replacing a

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<v Speaker 5>guy like Jared Allen back there. Trey Young when he

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<v Speaker 5>gets to the line, that's one thing. When he gets

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<v Speaker 5>to the paint period, good things happen for the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 5>But Garland's quick enough to stay with him. I just

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<v Speaker 5>think Jared Allen back there marketing to tog Iban. He

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't block shots, will see mobiley. I like them. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a little raw. He's still he's just not like there yet.

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<v Speaker 5>He had a great start. He got figured out a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit. He can play some defense. I love what

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<v Speaker 5>he did with usc and and the enfield. He got

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<v Speaker 5>him to the Elite eight. Those days are over. This

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<v Speaker 5>is the NBA A surviving advanced game against an Hawks

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<v Speaker 5>team that's very experienced, but so far the home team

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<v Speaker 5>has pretty much had their way. If Jared Alleen walks out,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying it's Willis reed the Knicks, but he

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<v Speaker 5>remotivates that team. I'm bickerstaff. I say, hey, man, if

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<v Speaker 5>there's one game you can try to play, it's tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Now is it long term damage? I'm not a doctor,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's been six weeks. I hope he plays.

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<v Speaker 4>Who do you think has the best chance of beating

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<v Speaker 4>the Heat?

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<v Speaker 3>If they win tonight, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>A great see you ask good questions. This is why

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<v Speaker 5>you're a world famous journalist.

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<v Speaker 4>Haha, you're a world famous fluffer. Is what you are

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<v Speaker 4>coaching at Oregon.

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<v Speaker 5>You got the dog, you got Emma, you got the

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<v Speaker 5>em of the dog. You got You, you got Quinn,

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<v Speaker 5>and you got Ryan. You're all over the place, barstool,

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<v Speaker 5>back to DC, up to New York. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 5>you're on the fan because New York City needs you.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you this. If John Collins plays, and look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going on what the Hawks did last year, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean they beat the Heat. I mean they beat the

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<v Speaker 5>Sixers in Game seven. They dismantled the next four to one.

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<v Speaker 5>No problem. All Right, that wasn't the best next team

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<v Speaker 5>in the world, but they were still They still went

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<v Speaker 5>me in there and won, and they meet the Sixers.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't care what Ben Zimmons did. They

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<v Speaker 5>still had to meet Zeth Curry and Tobias Harris Day.

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<v Speaker 5>Mcmellan's got guts. That guy can coach. Now gotta play defense,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't think they wanted to play defense in

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<v Speaker 5>November and December. But just like you did the year before,

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<v Speaker 5>he brought him in and said it's January. They were hot.

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<v Speaker 5>They had a really good February. They had tough. I

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<v Speaker 5>haint the Hawks seven better chance. But if Jared Allen

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<v Speaker 5>was to be healthy with I sik, I said Garland.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, they have the biggest lineup. When it win

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<v Speaker 5>Achorrol marketing.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get four to seven footers.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just but the Heat's resiliency and the way that

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<v Speaker 5>Heat play, I think the Hawks have a better chance. Actually,

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<v Speaker 5>if I had upon reflection after watching ten minutes of

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<v Speaker 5>the Hawks won its game, I couldn't believe I took

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<v Speaker 5>the Hornets, And I don't want to be saying the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing tonight. So even though it's not a gambling show.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Hawks go in there and find a

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<v Speaker 5>way to win, and then they give the Heat all

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<v Speaker 5>they want. How about that the Heat are gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>the Hawks who went to the finals last year, and

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<v Speaker 5>the Celtics are gonna get the Nets. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be too compelling. First round series one in two seeds. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 5>the Bucks are going to cruise from the three seed

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<v Speaker 5>against the sleeping Bulls that took they ripped van winkled

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<v Speaker 5>it from.

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<v Speaker 4>February on, Yeah, they did.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's talk Clippers now versus the Pelicans. Pelicans went

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<v Speaker 3>one to twelve to start the year. We were just

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<v Speaker 3>throwing massive amounts of shade on them that looked like

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<v Speaker 3>a tanking team. Zion of course hasn't played all year,

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<v Speaker 3>despite him doing windmills in practice and pre game all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff. And then of course they trade for my guy, CJ. McCollum,

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<v Speaker 3>Love them love him.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it true too?

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<v Speaker 3>It appears right looks like he's more of a point

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<v Speaker 3>guard in this system, especially with big long wings next

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<v Speaker 3>to him, with b I Herb Jones, Jackson Hayes and

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<v Speaker 3>of course JV.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and then the biggest news is like five minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 3>we find out that Paul George contracted COVID, so he's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna play tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, this is news to you. This is brand

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<v Speaker 4>new news to you too.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow. I didn't know he was not gonna play. I

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<v Speaker 5>was out getting my little lock in with my dog

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<v Speaker 5>and get a piece of chicken.

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<v Speaker 4>Come home, George Pg. Thirteen is not playing tonight, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's Norm Powell and the others.

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<v Speaker 5>Away.

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<v Speaker 3>So now the line is probably let me look and

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<v Speaker 3>see what it is now. I think it's a pick

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<v Speaker 3>them one and a half. Yeah, so one and a

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<v Speaker 3>half Clippers are at home. The line is still two

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen and a half as the total. Just a fascinating,

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<v Speaker 3>fascinating matchup. Just give me how you see this going

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of like matchups.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, let's review, let's review. Yes, love you and your trailblazers.

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<v Speaker 5>You're trying so hard to fail. After what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 5>from a column. You might have traded the wrong guy.

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<v Speaker 5>A he's taking a leadership bro. If you read I

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<v Speaker 5>do this show with Bobby Aber, remember the quarterback Bobby

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<v Speaker 5>who that good guy. I do this New Orleans show

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<v Speaker 5>with him and Christians really good and they talk a

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<v Speaker 5>lot about the Pelicans. He had to do some LSU

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<v Speaker 5>and some other stuff, but it's about Pelicans. Really interesting team.

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<v Speaker 5>David Griffin's been absent because he doesn't want to take design.

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<v Speaker 5>He Ingram's hurt. They're doing the tanking thing. Whatever you say.

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<v Speaker 5>Valancenis keeps it together. Ingram is good. Herb Jones is

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<v Speaker 5>why Alabama one. He is why Alabama one. They whooped

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<v Speaker 5>Maryland to go to Sweet sixteen. It wasn't the young guys.

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<v Speaker 5>It just wasn't okay. I like Josh Primo. I liked

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<v Speaker 5>those other guys. Herb Jones was the leader in that

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<v Speaker 5>locker room. He was a tough guy, plays defense. All

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<v Speaker 5>of a sudden, he picks up Alvarado, who led Georgia

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<v Speaker 5>Tech to the ACC title. They came in last this

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<v Speaker 5>year without him last. Josh pass is a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not his fault, but Alvarado New York tough. Will's

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<v Speaker 5>Will's Georgia Tech to the NCAA. Well, he's playing well.

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson Hayes has grown up. I love Valentiunis, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>all about McCollum. I guess he went to lunch and

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<v Speaker 5>dinner with all these different guys. He's spending a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of time with Willie Green. He's like, I can help more.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember he went to Lee High, so he's really smart guy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's basically an Ivy League school Patriot Leaguers.

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<v Speaker 4>Also NBPA president CJ.

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<v Speaker 5>McCollough and right, see, like this is a bright guy

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<v Speaker 5>who's like, we're not that far off. Instead of everybody

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<v Speaker 5>making ben ye jokes and fat jokes and all this

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<v Speaker 5>about Zion, let's get him involved because he shoots sixty

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<v Speaker 5>percent from the field. I'm a big Zion guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he's got to grow up. Sure, maybe his boys are

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<v Speaker 5>down there and they're hanging out, or it's his first

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<v Speaker 5>year in New Orleans. Hey, I was just there. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't do well there either. It's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a lot of talents.

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<v Speaker 5>They got food, Begnet's with Chris, drinking at night. I've

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<v Speaker 5>been there, beads, beads, they had everything. Hurricanes. Here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 5>what does CJ. McCollum do gets the Scion Now Zion's

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<v Speaker 5>back on the bench, Like c J. McCollum has brought

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<v Speaker 5>them together. But I think Trey Murphy was a really

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<v Speaker 5>good pick. I thought Corey Kisper was a little better

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<v Speaker 5>than him. He went to Rice, who's smart, Trey Murphy

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<v Speaker 5>than Virginia. So Murphy Alvarado Jones. There's your young guys, McCollums,

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<v Speaker 5>your leader. Valance Unis is just a really good, big ingram,

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<v Speaker 5>super talented. And Jackson Hayes, we know it's grown up he.

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<v Speaker 3>Had and of course JV has that Toronto blood in him,

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<v Speaker 3>right because he played for the Raptors for a long

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<v Speaker 3>period of time and he ended up well. He was

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<v Speaker 3>like one of the leaders when they were trying to

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<v Speaker 3>build things. Lowry and and DeRozan people.

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<v Speaker 5>They won it. And by the way, I just I

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<v Speaker 5>might take them in the futures back next year to

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<v Speaker 5>like go to the conference finals. This team is like

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<v Speaker 5>right there and they're gonna get a.

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<v Speaker 4>Decent They feel kind of like Memphis a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>to you was last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Very trista, very good. Yes they do. Who has Desmond Maine,

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<v Speaker 5>who's tougher than you think, who took you know, John

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<v Speaker 5>Morian has been fantastic, there's no there's no question there.

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<v Speaker 5>But all of a sudden they got Dylan Brooks and

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<v Speaker 5>Desmond Maine and all these other guys that are better

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<v Speaker 5>than you think. And they got a little family atmosphere too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>they throw in Steven Adams, So it's a mix. You

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<v Speaker 5>gotta have salary cap that works, but you gotta have

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<v Speaker 5>some young guys because they're cheaper on the tax. But

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<v Speaker 5>really you got to have a guy that could lead,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's McCollum. McCollum has got a fantastic job. And

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<v Speaker 5>I've been hearing Dame. He has been voicing his support,

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<v Speaker 5>following them and saying how much they already miss them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I heard Dame is gonna come up to it

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<v Speaker 3>the CJ mccollingers, And just like Patrick Beverly did for

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<v Speaker 3>Eva Zubah at a joke, I don't think so. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>we couldn't have had them both. They were making too

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<v Speaker 3>much money. Dame's gonna get an extension. CJ's making thirty

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Nirk wants his. And then you're in a

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<v Speaker 3>bad CA situation. So sometimes you have to just let

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<v Speaker 3>the birds that.

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<v Speaker 4>You love dirt.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't we playing dirt by the game? How many games

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<v Speaker 5>he plays?

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<v Speaker 4>We need to get rid of him, Coach, he's got

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<v Speaker 4>to go. We got now.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember when he was picked in the first round.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know who he was. Comes around, he's always injured, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Is, he is well.

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<v Speaker 3>We shut him down this year because we didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>him winning any games for us.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was that was Simon's is coming around for

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<v Speaker 5>your Trailblazers. Now there is an interesting draft pick out

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<v Speaker 5>of IMG. I wish that he went to college. I

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<v Speaker 5>wish they all went to college for a year. I

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<v Speaker 5>think he had helped him, helps them marketing, it helps

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<v Speaker 5>him grow up. And what Simon's showed what he can

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<v Speaker 5>do this year. But can't you do it on a

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<v Speaker 5>winning team? Is what you have to ask yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's pivot now, because so your pick is, your pick

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<v Speaker 3>is Pelicans, Pelicans. Let's pivot. Let's hard pivot now. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this draft, this last year's draft. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people coach telling telling me the twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>draft class might be the best since nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty eighteen obviously is elite. This court class, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is deeper than that.

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<v Speaker 4>For you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've got just it's just stacked. You literally

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<v Speaker 3>can just go through the list and we'll go through

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<v Speaker 3>some of them. I'm very curious. The first thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I want to where the where the mock separated was

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<v Speaker 3>the Jalen Sug Scottie Barnes pick. Everybody thought, Jalen Sugg's kid,

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<v Speaker 3>who's like multi sport athlete from the you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Minneapolis area, best friends with Paige Becker's.

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<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah, A born.

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<v Speaker 3>Winner, goes to Gonzaga, stands up on the table when

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<v Speaker 3>he beats UCLA in that game winner, that he should

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<v Speaker 3>have been the one to go to Toronto. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people thought that was like the very easy, safe

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<v Speaker 3>pick because he's a proven winner and they needed a guard.

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<v Speaker 3>They end up going with Scotty Barnes instead, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people thought that was like pretty befuddling.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you think about the pick then? And then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, what do you think went wrong with Suggs

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<v Speaker 4>when he ended up going to Orlando?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it just like a depth issue with all the

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<v Speaker 3>guards that they had. Could they have passed on him

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<v Speaker 3>and gone with someone else? So much going on with

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<v Speaker 3>those two picks.

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<v Speaker 5>I've known Suggs since he was fifteen because he was

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<v Speaker 5>on the under Armoured Circuit competitor Hits Game Winners. I

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<v Speaker 5>talked to Mark Few about when he hit the game winner.

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<v Speaker 5>He does that in practice all the time. Big fan

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<v Speaker 5>of Sugs. Feisty, but he's only six y three. Barnes

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<v Speaker 5>is tall. This guy Messi knows what he's doing in Toronto,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's Van Fleet, Siakam, all the players that picked

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<v Speaker 5>picking up Kawhi for a year knowing that was probably

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<v Speaker 5>all you're going to get out of him. He was

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<v Speaker 5>right about that too. This guy Messi is like he's

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<v Speaker 5>got It's like he's got a little crystal ball. Scottie

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<v Speaker 5>Barnes played for Leonard Hamilton. He basically came off the bench,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and waited his turn and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Devin Vass was doing well this year. He did the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing. I like Leonard Hamilton's guys. Scottie Barnes has

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<v Speaker 5>always wanted to win. It's always been about the shot

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<v Speaker 5>and it actually goes in. It doesn't look great, but

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<v Speaker 5>it goes in. But his intangibles with Siakam, Van Fleet, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>they have there. Now you may not have needed Suggs

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<v Speaker 5>as much as we thought. We did brilliant play and

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<v Speaker 5>now he's in purgatory because I think the magic's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a while. Even though they have fans. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not a huge fan of because when you lose by thirty,

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<v Speaker 5>someone's got to score. The Magic are a long way away.

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<v Speaker 5>Bonds goes to a winning situation like Florida State, fills

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<v Speaker 5>In doesn't have to be the guy shows has worked

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<v Speaker 5>on defense, rebounding, understanding how to play, happy to pass,

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<v Speaker 5>happy to be a role player, and quietly, he really

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<v Speaker 5>probably should have been the MVP MOBILEI, as we know

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<v Speaker 5>in our society, got off to such a quick start.

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<v Speaker 5>Caid came along too, But it's just hard when you

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<v Speaker 5>lose every game. Okay, I like what cunning him does.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got to shoot the ball better. Suggs broke and

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<v Speaker 5>hurt his wrist. He's down there in the Magic which

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<v Speaker 5>is just not a good situation. It's going to take

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years to clean up. And Jalen Green

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<v Speaker 5>in the Rockets, they were trying to lose. Okay, they

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<v Speaker 5>were trying to lose. So at leaves Barns as a winner.

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<v Speaker 5>B he's playing in meaningful games. I really like Dute

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<v Speaker 5>two and the Pacers, but they lost. Corey Kispert really

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<v Speaker 5>didn't play until the end. Like you can vot.

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<v Speaker 4>Bars could be coach because like the.

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<v Speaker 5>Shawn Prince, Tayshawn Prince. My point is because you guys

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<v Speaker 5>weren't playing in meaningful games, and he was screaming well

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<v Speaker 5>in meaningful games making a playoff run. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 5>play the Raptors right now. Sixers got their handsful. So

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<v Speaker 5>Scottie Barns to me, answered the bell. He did it

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<v Speaker 5>the whole season. He did enough on the on the

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<v Speaker 5>stats thing, but he won and played meaningful minutes. I really,

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<v Speaker 5>if I was voting and waited until the last day

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<v Speaker 5>of the season, he gets it for me.

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<v Speaker 4>No chance. I mean, that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the thing that's crazy is that everybody was saying

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<v Speaker 3>that he wasn't a true scorer, but he had thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one points seventeen rebounds on fourteen for twenty one shooting

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<v Speaker 3>when they played the Lakers. He had five double doubles

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<v Speaker 3>since the All Star breaks, averaging fifteen right foraging eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>on fifty eight percent true shooting since the All Star Break,

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<v Speaker 3>and scoring was supposed to be the weakness.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think they say Tayshawn Prince because we played

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<v Speaker 5>him in the NC Double A and he looked a

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<v Speaker 5>little funky with his left handed shot and like all

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<v Speaker 5>of a sudden, Larry Brown figured out, hey, that's the

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<v Speaker 5>last team that won it without a top ten player.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, it was the Pistons. Gary Brown figured

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<v Speaker 5>out all the things Tayshawn Prince did well instead of

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<v Speaker 5>complaining about what he didn't do well. I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>the Raptors have done the same thing. Nick Nurse has said,

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<v Speaker 5>look at all the things this guy does and helps

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<v Speaker 5>us win and happy to do it. But he can score.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you said twisted eighteen. Since the All Star Game,

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<v Speaker 5>what do.

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<v Speaker 3>You think happened with James Bookknight Because everybody was excited

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<v Speaker 3>about you always did.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm known Booknight

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<v Speaker 5>since he was young, and that was all that was joke.

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<v Speaker 5>He visited Sientle when I was there, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>the first scholarship offer he has. James brook Knight's a

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<v Speaker 5>New York kid. He's very talented. He lost to Maryland.

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<v Speaker 5>Eric Coyella outplayed him in the NCAA. I was this

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<v Speaker 5>go to the I was going on all the nc

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<v Speaker 5>double A games. That's when I saw herb Jones, who,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, was a great first pick. First round

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<v Speaker 5>pick for the Pelicans, like you gotta find guys that

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<v Speaker 5>can win book Knight got out played by Ayela, But

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<v Speaker 5>he's a nice kid. Stephen Cruz was his high school

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 5>coach who was on the bench for Saint Peter's. See

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<v Speaker 5>it's always connected.

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 4>We love to connect Twista for sure. Why do you

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 4>think he played at all or played in play?

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.959
<v Speaker 5>He's got some look, first of all, they got other guys.

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 5>Second of all, I don't they weren't going to pick him,

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.119
<v Speaker 5>but he was left on the board, and I heard

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.360
<v Speaker 5>I heard conjecture, yep that the big boss down there,

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 5>we all know who that is, said, why is the

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.879
<v Speaker 5>number six ranked prospects still on the board? Take? And

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 5>we've all been in those I've been in the rooms

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 5>with bosses when I know it's a bad idea, and

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 5>I go, oh, yeah, that's a great idea. Boss Like

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.200
<v Speaker 5>that wasn't a great idea. They didn't need that position.

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 5>They got Rogier and LaMelo, they took him. I think

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 5>he's got a little growing up to do. Like he

0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 5>just didn't shoot the ball well against I saw Connecticut

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.159
<v Speaker 5>twice last year, two years ago. He didn't shoot the

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 5>ball well. He's got a good pace. His crossover getting

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 5>till the rim is excellent. But they'll block that shot

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 5>in the NBA. Yeah, Devin Woters, you just said Cleveland

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 5>has three of them. I think this is a huge offseason.

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 5>Just like in college. I thought the jump from year

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 5>one to year two was big. I go to Summer League.

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 5>I want to see book Knight. Can he grow up?

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 5>Can he spread back on d Is he contempt to distribute?

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 5>Remember New York City guys, they are a little like Alvarado.

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 5>Like I love his feistiness, that's what makes him good.

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.679
<v Speaker 5>But he took four years in college. Like book Knight

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 5>wants to go back at guys when they scored him.

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 5>I saw this up close in Summer League. Doesn't work

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<v Speaker 5>in the NBA. Like if Kyle Lowry crosses you up

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 5>or somebody hits a Jay in your face, you can't

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 5>take it personal. Because they're really great players. I think

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Booknight is gonna be a really interesting one to watch.

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 5>He was picked eleventh for a reason. Some guys saw

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 5>the flaws. But I will tell you this, I wish

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 5>the Wizards got him because they need a point guard.

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Like I like Corey Kissy. He shoots the ball he's

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 5>a good player, but they could have used bookmank because

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 5>they don't have a point guard. Like he's gone to

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 5>a place where they have two point guards. And yeah,

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 5>with most New York kids, it ain't so happy he's

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 5>sitting on They're not real cool. Was sitting on that bench.

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Playing another another place that had multiple point guards, multiple guards,

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 3>and then somehow head scratchingly took someone that they didn't need.

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 4>Was Sacramento and Davey.

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 5>On the course. He plays hard. I gotta give Davian Mitchell.

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 5>He plays hard. Now. I don't know what they're gonna

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 5>do with Deanon Fox and them him and McBride, Damian

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 5>Mitchell and McBride for the Knicks with the two guys

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 5>I saw at some league that played tremendous defense. Is

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 5>that enough? I don't know, But he really Bobby was

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 5>coaching the team out in uh Sacramento with some Bobby

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 5>Jackson who played that he reminded him of him, like

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 5>he's really good. But the Kings they sort of can't

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 5>get out of their own with either. Can they dwist them? No?

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it just feels like same thing with Charlotte.

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 3>You've got you've got despirate, you know, opinions, and then

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 3>you've got a hierarchy of power, and then you get

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 3>guys that like do what the owner wants.

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 4>Now, now it.

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Looks like, uh, my man in Charlotte's gonna get clipped

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Mitch cup check.

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<v Speaker 5>Here. Well, I don't think the boss. I don't think

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 5>Michael Jordan's gonna take the blame. Here's the thing. If

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 5>Gordon Haywood plays, they probably could have won the other night.

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 5>But he can't stay healthy either. I don't think he's

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 5>a dog. I don't think it's anything personal. He's just

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 5>had some injury problems. Bok Knight. You can't waste picks

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 5>like that, and they didn't need And when you look

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 5>at like whether it was Desumo, I love Dwate, they

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 5>could have had him, Za Wins, bones Hiland, who's an

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 5>under armour guy. He's played Troumatta Love bones Hiland, long rangey,

0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 5>great personality, twenty third pick playing yeah, ruggets. All these

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 5>guys that could have helped them, and they just took

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 5>a guy that was ranked higher.

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Heb Jones would have been really good for them.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 5>Herb Jones would have been great. They could have used

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 5>the three man defender. But here's the problem, Trista. People

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 5>like Herb Jones is like Social Security guy. Because he's

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 5>a senior in college, they moved down. Duarte was a

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 5>better player than book Night, but he moved to the

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Pacers because the one knew he was twenty four and

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 5>twenty three. They don't want that. You know, Desmo had

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 5>a good year for the Bulls. He moved down because

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 5>of that. Meanwhile, all he did was winning Illinois. But

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 5>there is that X factor. If he's younger, he's under twenty,

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 5>he moves up five or six slots because he's under twenty.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 5>Couldn't be interesting to see. So you did hear Mitch

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Kumpchick's gonna get clipped.

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 4>That's what I heard.

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I heard he was on the chopping block. You know,

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>so we'll have to see how that all comes to fruition.

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 3>You think that's smart that they not only overvalue young guys,

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>but they undervalue old guys in this league.

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 5>Great question depends what you're looking for. You know, Brooklyn

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 5>took Cam Thomas, who I really like, because he's an

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 5>unbelievble scorer. I'm not going to pass it leading scorer.

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 5>I would oak Hill. They're a winning team. We can

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 5>be patient on a young guy who can score. The

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 5>Celtics Peyton Prichard finally worked out a little bit for him.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 5>Dee Smith Langford terrible pick. I never liked him from

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 5>in Neana. Didn't think you get a good skill set

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 5>picking that. Picking twelve to twenty is tricky. Pick in

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 5>twenty to thirty. I actually think it's easier because you

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 5>can kind of take a little more of a risk

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 5>or say we just need a guy to help us

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 5>win a few games. You know, if the Warriors were

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 5>picking two years ago in any other spot but two,

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they take Wiseman. They just didn't want

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 5>to miss on a seven to one unicorn. Well, he

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 5>hasn't been healthy. I'm not sure how much he loves basketball.

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 5>Good kid, I've met him before. Nice, smart, speaks Chinese,

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 5>plays a piano, all that stuff.

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 4>How can you tell?

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 3>How can you tell whether somebody likes basketball? Because remember

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 3>there were a lot of people who said that about

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Aunt Edwards as well, And it turns out like he's

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 3>ready for every moment, shows up when you know the

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 3>lights get the brightest, and he's probably one of the

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 3>more charismatic guys that we have in the association.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 5>I like Anthony Edwards. He was on an enormous circuit.

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 5>He was in the Curry game too. And I say

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 5>that full disclosure. I worked for on Durma. But we

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 5>also get to see kids at USA basketball at McDonald's

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 5>and the Curry campus is not just on d Rhymer's.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 5>Everybody Chad Holgrom, you know his Florence. Their son is competitor,

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 5>Jalen Green, you know, talented but needed to grow up.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 5>You see things you could tell Wiseman was really smart.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 5>I just sometimes when someone has too many interests off

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 5>the corner, like Anthony Edwards loves basketball all right. I

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 5>also think Anthony Edwards got the benefit of being picked

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 5>by Minnesota perfect place, you know why, because it's about

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 5>as far away from Atlanta as you can be. And

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 5>for someone that age, we've all been there. I am certainly.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't have my eighteen to twenty one year old

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 5>years out there publicity wise, but there was no cameras

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 5>back then. The drinking age was eighteen in DC. When

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 5>I went to college, it was chaos mix for anarchy,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 5>and we were you know, and we were you know,

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 5>playing ball, and GW was good going to Hoya's games

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 5>and Maryland games could go to the bars and all this. Well,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 5>they probably have the same access now because of their status.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 5>I think it's fantastic Anthony Edwards went to a team

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 5>that really needed them. They could be patient. Last year,

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 5>they weren't going to be any good. Let him make mistakes.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 5>This year. What a what a fantastic atmosphere. Loved to

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 5>see him play the Grizzlies. But I always thought Anthony

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 5>Edwards liked basketball. I just didn't know if the other

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 5>stuff was a distress. Like he loved basketball, I just

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 5>didn't know if the other stuff was a distraction. I

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 5>was a little disappointed in how poorly he played at Georgia,

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 5>but in fact, he didn't play poorly. Tom Crean just

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 5>couldn't get that team together. That's why he's not the

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 5>coach there anymore. Yeah, Like there's a lot of factors

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 5>that go into these.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 4>Young guys situation.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Situation, But like you better love basketball on Golden State

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 5>because the guy run on the whole team, Curry loves basketball.

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>And on top of that, and on top of that,

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>basketball Edwards probably wouldn't have flourished at Golden State because

0:28:58.280 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>of the type.

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Of sets that they want to run.

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 3>You need to be ready to run these complicated things

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 3>right away, and you can't get in the way of

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Curry too.

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Like that's the number one thing.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think they wanted to get LaMelo because

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>they said they didn't think LaMelo was going to pick

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>up on the offense as fast, and they didn't want

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 3>somebody to compete with Curry for touches, which Aunt probably

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>would have competed with Curry for touches.

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 5>And you knew Klay Thompson was coming back. Raggins is

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 5>actually see I think Wiggins has been a beneficiary of

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 5>being around Steph Curry's workout, the love of the game.

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 5>But Jordan Poole's gotten a lot better, so they didn't

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 5>need him. They needed it big. They took a risky.

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Maybe those guys are so big and so talented. If

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 5>it ever clicks, and maybe Wiseman little click, you know,

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 5>maybe just I just didn't. Here's what I'm saying about Wiseman.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 5>I watched them ten weekends, twist to ten. That's you know,

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 5>a rough estimate. He never played a whole weekend. Wow,

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 5>it was USA Basketball Curry Camp McDonald's in high school AAU.

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 5>He just he didn't wait. Here's how this stuff works.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 5>Usual it as a game Friday night to Saturday. One

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 5>Sunday a practice, so this he never played the whole weekend.

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 5>He never completed one weekend, which made me a little

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 5>concerned because sometimes you just want to do it for

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 5>peer pressure. Second of all, you just want to be

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 5>out there so bad at this level, getting McDonald's jersey

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 5>and I didn't see it. Anthony Anthony Edwards, he wanted

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 5>to play the big moments, saying he had a game

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 5>winner over Nico Mannyon who is now in Italy. I

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 5>mean him and Josh Green couldn't stop the guy and

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 5>he wanted the ball. And this is a Sunday morning

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 5>meetingless game at AAU. They've already qualified for the playoffs,

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 5>and Anthony Edwards drops forty. You gotta give him my credit.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 5>So that being said, I also think your system think

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 5>it's correct. It's too bad though, because LaMelo I was wrong.

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't get him all right. I didn't think he'd

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 5>be that good.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 4>He is good, Yeah he is.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Were you surprised at how deep this draft ended up

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 3>being In terms of all the top end talent. Like,

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I know you don't like Franz Wagner, but we have

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 3>ten rookies that have played over fifty I give him credit.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 5>I just be I'm just what I'm saying on that,

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm careful of guys dropping buckets when they're losing by thirty, right, right, right,

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 5>You and I have both seen there's a lot of

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 5>different defense when it's a two point game than when

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 5>it's a twenty five point game.

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>So we've got ten rookies that have played ten games,

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 3>and they have played over fifty games and average double figures.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that this was like kind of stunning

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>how deep it ended up being because it was actually

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>considered ahead of the draft a slightly weak draft.

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 5>I always thought Mobley was really good. I liked Trey Man.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 5>There was some guys like that that I liked.

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>You've got Zion Williams, Quinton Grimes, Bones.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 5>Hirings, Williams coming into the perfect culture. I didn't think

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 5>Zion Williams is going to be that good. I did

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<v Speaker 5>like Tray Burdon. Hey, my guy, Aaron Wiggans Maryland play.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Aaron Wiggins is a perfect example Trey Man dessume move.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say this though the NBA is not the

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 5>old NBA starters. The average guys are playing sixty sixty

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 5>five games, not eighty games. Right, Well, there's room for

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 5>some rookie stuff. But yeah, they score on the ball.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 5>If they've had a good run, they've had a good

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 5>they've had. This has been a good draftless. Like I said,

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 5>Duarte is good. I just happened because AI work for

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 5>you guys and cover the NBA. I happened to dig

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 5>into the Pelicans and there's Trey Murphy, who I wasn't

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 5>sure on him, and then I was wrong. Chase Hughes

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 5>was right. He wonted Trey Murphy for the Wizards. It

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 5>was close. He's got a big upside, he's long. He

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 5>made a big, tough basket the other night. It's been

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 5>a lot of different guys with talent, and they can

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 5>score the ball. I do want to see how it

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 5>shakes out. And it's interesting that book Knight's the biggest disappointment.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 5>We'll see if he can bounce back bones Highland. He's

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 5>had a few issues up and down, but he's in

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 5>a team with Djokis, solid coaching staff, Conley's the President,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 5>Booth's the GM like they're very organized. They can put

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 5>up with some of Bones and stuff. He's got Will Barton.

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 5>When they get Murray back and all that, it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be interesting. But bonesheiland got to go to a

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 5>winning situation, Scotty Barnes's winning situation. The King Cunningham one

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 5>was the most interesting. I just didn't see him play

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<v Speaker 5>that well. They lost to the Wizards both times. One

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 5>time he played terrible. One time he's went pretty good.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he has enough to turn that

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<v Speaker 5>one around. You know, it's funny because I want to

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 5>see if Sons can turn around the Magic with his

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 5>competitiveness because he's so tough. I'm not down on Wagner.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 5>I just he's just sometimes I set up before he

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 5>didn't make big shots at Michigan. I want to see

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<v Speaker 5>how that goes.

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 4>But they're being related to Mo. Him being related to

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<v Speaker 4>Mo did not help him either.

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 5>Most kind of a feisty, dirty guy. But he's hung

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 5>around the league and now they're on the same team.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 5>But you're right, because he's a very different player. You're right.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like you see Mo and you're like, oh, it's

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 3>another Wagner, like don't take him in the top fifteen,

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Like he's like a second round guy, and he ended

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>up being obviously like had a bunch of triple doubles,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 3>like really helping this team stay in it at least

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 3>you know who do you think is not being talked

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>about enough? It ends up being in the long run

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 3>like shockingly elite. Because I like the upside of Shangoon.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I really like the upside of Herb Jones, Like he

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 3>impacts winning defensively in ways that.

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 4>We haven't seen in a long time.

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>He had like in fifteen seconds he had what like

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 3>two steals a block and got caused a foul like

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>fifteen seconds in that playing game. I also really like

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 3>kaminga A lot of people like him.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 4>How about Reed made athletic.

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 5>But first of all, I want to talk about my

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 5>guy Desmond Gain from two years ago, another twenty four

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 5>year old from TCU know one would take He looks

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 5>at you. You can play running back tomorrow for the Ravens.

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 5>He's a guy that's not only taken the first step,

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 5>he's taking the second step. Was a leader in Summer League.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 5>I want to see Josh Getty take the next step.

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 5>They're not built the same. I think Josh Getty's really

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 5>good before he got hurt. He's like a triple double

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 5>machine where he's close to it. He's really good. I

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.959
<v Speaker 5>think he's got a little bit more savvy to his game.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 5>I really like Josh Guiney. He's saying good. I'm careful

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 5>on that Rockets team. Jalen gree to them. They were

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 5>taking some bad shots. Ye look, they're in it for

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 5>the long run. We all know that them and the Magic.

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 5>I actually like the Thunders plan better, Like sometimes certain

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 5>guys take a lot of shots and then they're out

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 5>and they let the second team. Eric Meder is a

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 5>friend of mine, playing VCU five years in the league,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 5>assistant coach. Like the Thunder could make a quick jump.

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 5>Josh Giddy is a guy I think. I don't want

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 5>to go crazy here because it's a Friday, it's happy Eastern,

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 5>and I'm gonna go have a good Friday beer right

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 5>after this podcast. But I will tell you this, my friend,

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<v Speaker 5>in three years, when they remock this draft, Trista, don't

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.439
<v Speaker 5>be surprised if he's the number one pick.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 4>Wow. Yeah, his court vision is insane.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Telling you he's a little don chicky without the bit

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 5>his builds to like in three years everyone he might

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 5>be saying, why didn't we take that guy?

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 4>No doubt?

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Who who finally is in your all rookie team? Because

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 3>you remember Bill Simmons was just like you hating on

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Green because he does an impact winning same situation

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.760
<v Speaker 3>than I had. You'd have to say with Bronz Wagner.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 3>So who's your on your on your all rookie team?

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I'm putting Josh Gideon because I just

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 5>said it. The mobiley things really easy, the mobiley things

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 5>just because of I mean, he really did impact.

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 5>It's funny I talk about all my old stories of

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 5>USA basketball and all that, but it's interesting to see

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 5>kids in different settings. And Mobley's just tremendously talented. He's

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 5>never been like an alpha dog Suggs is. Suggs ran

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 5>those teams, you know, and he was like the guy

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 5>and all that stuff. Chet Holger Max. He has a

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 5>little more of that than you. Moby very content. He

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 5>was thrust into the spotlight. He handled it pretty well.

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 5>But him and Scottie Barnes clearly have had the most

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 5>smooth seasons for winning teams. I'm putting Josh Giddy, I'm

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 5>gonna go. I'm gonna know Herb Jones because they're in it.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna put throw him in there. And because I'm

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 5>not a Wagner fan, so I can't, I can't do that.

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 5>And as much as I want and I do, I'm

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 5>gonna go with my guy Desumo. So my team would

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 5>be my starting team would be Desumo Giddy at the point,

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Desumo at the two, Herb Jones at the three, Scottie

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Bonds at the four, and Mobile at the five. Would

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 5>be my rookie team to play any other rookie team

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 5>you want.

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I love all those guys because they've all

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 3>impacted winning.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 5>And back to winning. They stayed a little longer some

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 5>of them. Whatever, I just I just Desumo. Maybe it's

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 5>me because he came down to the Marriyland Illinois game

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 5>and his jersey was retired after three years, and he

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 5>was like a kid on the bench. Yet he talked

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 5>about how lucky he was to be a bull. I

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 5>travel a lot, when I read a lot of papers.

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 5>When I travel, and you go through Chicago a lot, Trista,

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 5>so I get a lot of Bulls, either watching picking

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 5>up the newspaper or listening to people. He's handled it

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 5>really well. He helped them. You know, they were they

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 5>were really off to a hot start, the Bulls. They

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 5>ran out of gas with no ball. But so I'm

0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 5>gonna go that. Yeah, I'm gonna go to sumo at

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 5>the Herbert the three, Gideon at the one, Bonds at

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 5>the four, allbe at the five, and I'll play any

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 5>team you want. You can, you can have your you

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 5>can have your guys, you can have the other kid

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 5>Connehan and Jalen Reed and those dudes. I'll take my team.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 4>I like that. Thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach catch him at at Coach Patsos on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 4>That's all the time that we have for this episode

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome lady.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not not on parting