WEBVTT - “I GOT A CEASE AND DESIST FROM POKÉMON”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Rob? Rob?

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<v Speaker 3>Rob? You said that you're being sued by the Pokemon company,

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<v Speaker 3>not stude.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta stop selling my product stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here we go. I got hit by the Pokemon

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<v Speaker 3>company for a cease and desist because my blankets were

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<v Speaker 3>making good money. And now my Etsy store is closed

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>do in life. Okay, great call topic. I'm very very

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<v Speaker 3>invested in this. Tell me about how you got started

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<v Speaker 3>making Pokemon blankets.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, I was just trying to like figure out

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<v Speaker 4>my own kind of side hustle, and I started designing

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<v Speaker 4>stuff through AI and I really love the Pokemon stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like sleeping Pokemont flapping me on some blankets.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have instantly, I think this is about one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent less school. Now okay, all right, you totally

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<v Speaker 3>all okay, Okay, Oh wow. I thought this was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be I thought I was gonna be I thought this

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna be awesome. And now I'm like, you absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>you deserve the cease and desist you. I'm glad your

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<v Speaker 3>atsy store has been closed. And uh, He's like I

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it. I talked about AI a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>talked about a fair amount on the show. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>like like I use the chatbots and stuff like, I

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<v Speaker 3>like there's helpful ship in there, but I despise generative AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Like AI like can be helpful for certain ship, but

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<v Speaker 3>like generative AI to like make art I despise that,

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<v Speaker 3>did you like do what? Like what did you what

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<v Speaker 3>did you do? Like did you make any changes or anything?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd go on a little there right, because like it

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<v Speaker 4>can only go so far, so beyond programs and edit

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<v Speaker 4>it and stuff like that, but just like the general

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<v Speaker 4>basis of like the artwork and stuff, I take that

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<v Speaker 4>and then kind of intermulate with different backgrounds or change

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<v Speaker 4>what they did a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, I'm so disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I read that text. I thought this was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be like fighting the man.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I know I'm going to get caught eventually,

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<v Speaker 4>and here it is, and I was like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like this is a little bit cool where it's just

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<v Speaker 4>like I got noticed a bit about my favorite game company.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that is the interesting thing about the

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<v Speaker 3>C synthesis is like, yeah, you got noticed.

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<v Speaker 4>One. I'm like, damn, must have did something right besides you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ai no no, I think this was how much money

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<v Speaker 3>did you make doing this?

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<v Speaker 4>What was it through the about a half a year?

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<v Speaker 4>About thirty grand?

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<v Speaker 3>You made thirty grand in six months? Yeah, by making

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<v Speaker 3>AI generated Pokemon blankets.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>You You deserve that ceason desist so much. You deserve

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<v Speaker 3>that ceason desist. Like like this is what like cause

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<v Speaker 3>you know, okay, because like sometimes right, like people will

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<v Speaker 3>make like like like like I'm I'm a huge Smash Bros.

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<v Speaker 3>Fan and people will make like cool mods of like

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<v Speaker 3>Smash Bros. Or they'll make like their own like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like there's all this like fan Pokemon games, right and

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<v Speaker 3>like like there's people who are like they really care

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<v Speaker 3>about the like they really care about the IP, they

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<v Speaker 3>really care about the games, and they're like making these

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<v Speaker 3>really cool like fan games or this really cool fan

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<v Speaker 3>art and they get hit by season desists, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's a bummer that makes you go, like, fuck Nintendo.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the kind of person who the ceason desist is

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<v Speaker 3>totally for that Fox hit up for the people who

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<v Speaker 3>are like actually trying to make it.

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<v Speaker 4>No one hundred percent. God, I was just doing it

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<v Speaker 4>while I was bored. I'd like, pump one out once

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<v Speaker 4>in a while, ago once in a while and see

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<v Speaker 4>what happens, And yeah, now it's here. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, what do I do now?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I'm also I'm very surprised by this because it's

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<v Speaker 3>so dumb that you made thirty thousand dollars doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>Because ay, there must be eight hundred trillion. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>there must be eighty billion people out there who are

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<v Speaker 3>like making Pokemon fan merch like that are like actual

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<v Speaker 3>artists that are like making shit that's like good, and

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<v Speaker 3>like why and a wouldn't why wouldn't people buy their

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<v Speaker 3>shit instead of your ship? And then b there's probably

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<v Speaker 3>like eighty billion scammer guys like you making like an

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<v Speaker 3>AI fucking like bullshit thing. Why wouldn't they buy Why

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<v Speaker 3>would they buy your AI bullshit and not some other

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<v Speaker 3>person's a bullshit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, like one thing I think is just like

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<v Speaker 4>what it looks like too, right, Like the design of

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<v Speaker 4>it maybe is what drew it. Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 4>crazy process.

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<v Speaker 2>For the year. I was like, damn, dude, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude? Every time I meets every fucking time I meet,

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<v Speaker 3>I meet I like in New York, I meant I

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<v Speaker 3>meet a lot of like AI folks who are like

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<v Speaker 3>and like I like, I like, I'll be real like

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<v Speaker 3>I you, I you. I don't use AI to like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like generative AI. But like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I when I have like a weird bump on my

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<v Speaker 3>phone foot, you know, I'm not gonna say, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>go into Gemini and be like, what's this weird bump

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<v Speaker 3>on my foot? But uh, when people are like there's

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<v Speaker 3>some of the people all the time are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm developing an AI app that does this thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>they'll tell me about it, and I'm like, there's that

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<v Speaker 3>does not need to fucking exist. Like there's so much ship,

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<v Speaker 3>there's so much AI shit where it's like I, I

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<v Speaker 3>just can't. I have no respect for like they're not

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<v Speaker 3>like making anything or doing anything. They're just making these

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<v Speaker 3>tools that don't fucking do anything. There's no art being made,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a community being made, there's no like story being told,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no like it's just there's just there's just like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm not a total doomer and I'm not like

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<v Speaker 3>total anti like like I'm sure that like in the

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<v Speaker 3>fucking medical field or the the whatever, like there's applicable,

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<v Speaker 3>good uses of the technology, but the techn I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not like completely utterly fully anti AI everything, but

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<v Speaker 3>like there's so many industries and what I really fucking

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<v Speaker 3>hate is that it's applied needlessly to everything, and people

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<v Speaker 3>think that like not every fucking industry is enhanced by technology,

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<v Speaker 3>especially like the arts, and like it'd be ignorant to

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<v Speaker 3>say that there's no use for it, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like whatever, like the medical field, fucking I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>like bullshit accounting, what like law shit, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some shit where it's like, yeah, I would trust

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<v Speaker 3>a computer more to do shit than like a human.

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<v Speaker 3>But like the the fact that like people apply it

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<v Speaker 3>to everything, like, oh, there's an AI dating app, there's

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<v Speaker 3>an AI friend maker thing, or an AI like you

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<v Speaker 3>know general or like AI generated Pokemon shit. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff. It doesn't need to you know, like the

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<v Speaker 3>technology just people have this stupid way of feeling like

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<v Speaker 3>it literally must be applied to every facet of human existence.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hopeful, I am. I am hopeful that like the

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<v Speaker 3>facets of human existence where it actually can be applied

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<v Speaker 3>for some form of benefit. Will be the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>are left over, and then the ones that are total bullshit,

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<v Speaker 3>like like AI Pokemon blankets and like AI movies and shit,

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<v Speaker 3>will people will Like I do, I do think that

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<v Speaker 3>like the human taste will prevail and that shit will

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<v Speaker 3>not be around anymore, you know, like the actual use

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<v Speaker 3>cases that are good for society that people actually want

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<v Speaker 3>will will remain. But like the AI slop shit, I

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<v Speaker 3>think people get tired of it and it'll bring back

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I hope that your cease and desist like

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<v Speaker 3>somehow clears room for like other you know, like there's

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<v Speaker 3>some motherfucker out there who's been drawing Charizard since he

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<v Speaker 3>was like three, and now he's like thirty two, and

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<v Speaker 3>he draws, and now he's thirty two and he draws

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<v Speaker 3>like the coolest Charizard shit in the world. Like that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully like that all the AI bullshit, Hopefully hopefully your help,

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<v Speaker 3>like by by putting out some AI bullshit thing, Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>you're making people so burnt out by that bullshit that

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<v Speaker 3>you're actually, in a weird way helping the guy who's

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<v Speaker 3>been drawing Charzard for thirty years because they're like, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to buy a real thing from like a real artist.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's true. Anyway, I went on

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<v Speaker 3>a whole rantom at ai instead.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the worries. I get it, and like the craziest

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<v Speaker 4>part too, is like, you're right, it's everywhere and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>how it's progressed, Like I'm starting to get stuck on

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<v Speaker 4>those TikTok stories where it's all Ai generated and just

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<v Speaker 4>how it progressed in the two years. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 4>can see how Netflix is hopping on this bandwagon, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just we're gonna have to go through so much

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<v Speaker 4>crap to get polish stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You're contributing to it.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta hop on some band wagon. And that was

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<v Speaker 4>one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we do we do. We do live in

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<v Speaker 3>a society where it's like, yeah, if I have an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to make money by we do live. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>fully blame you because we do live in a society

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like, if I have the opportunity to make money,

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<v Speaker 3>uh uh in by fucking you know, doing a Pokemon

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<v Speaker 3>blankets like whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Another example I use, Oh, I don't mean to cut

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<v Speaker 4>you off.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I'm just it's more on my ramp. But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like how Netflix Netflix AI. Yeah, that's just another example

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<v Speaker 3>of like every company needlessly I mean, dude, it happened

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<v Speaker 3>with like I feel like it happened with like Web

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<v Speaker 3>three and like nft S and shit like that, where

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<v Speaker 3>like it was it was so hot, and every company

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<v Speaker 3>in everything in the world, like everyone on the planet

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<v Speaker 3>was like, how do I integrate this ship into my ship?

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<v Speaker 3>Because just because it was hot? Right, And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's doing right now with AI. But I don't I

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<v Speaker 3>think I think people will come to realize that not

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<v Speaker 3>every facet of human society has made better with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there will be some facets of human society

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<v Speaker 3>that are made better with it, but like not not

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine point ninety nine percent as people like to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>But go ahead, sorry what we're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just curious where it goes because like I

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<v Speaker 4>bring up the example like I Kia furniture, right, like

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<v Speaker 4>that's for the mass consumerism of it, and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people would be like, well, that's taken away from

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<v Speaker 4>people who do it by hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I mean they're they're there. I see a world

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<v Speaker 3>where like I mean yeah, I see. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean if I don't just see a world, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>we we we we we we live in this world

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<v Speaker 3>where like AI slot bullshit like does coexist alongside actual art.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like people I'll do go to see movies

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the theater, like there is still value

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<v Speaker 3>placed in actual art on the very same day that, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a person can be on the toilet looking

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<v Speaker 3>at TikTok bullshit, they can like you know, still go

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<v Speaker 3>to a play or whatever. Wait, so what are you

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do with your life now?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right now, I'm back to just working away and

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<v Speaker 4>raising the kids until I kind of start something else

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<v Speaker 4>out of the side hustle. But yeah, that was the

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<v Speaker 4>craziest one, was just playing around with that stuff and

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<v Speaker 4>seeing it grow and then try to do some parenting

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<v Speaker 4>kind of products. But that didn't work out so well,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm just taking a break from side hustles.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be very funny if your children were just like

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<v Speaker 3>AI chatbots that you programmed to call you dad.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I see the lamp.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I see the lamp. Yeah yeah, yeah, how

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<v Speaker 3>old are your kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Are?

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<v Speaker 4>Seven and five?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, do your kids like Pokemon?

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<v Speaker 4>They're getting more into but I think it's just more

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<v Speaker 4>of a they know their dad loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you buy an ai uh Pokemon blanket for your kid?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we got a few at home on my own,

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<v Speaker 4>but I mean if it looked good like my kind feel,

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<v Speaker 4>I probably would.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, what did you I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 3>told me this? Sorry? But what did you do for

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<v Speaker 3>like to make money before this?

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<v Speaker 2>I just warehouse?

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<v Speaker 3>And okay, why don't you like? I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 3>make you can make more money doing a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like I'm still doing warehouse and it's just like

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<v Speaker 4>it's been ten years of it and it was like

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<v Speaker 4>I was ready to do something else from that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of boom, I'm like, ah, back to square one.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's what's your next scheme?

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<v Speaker 4>What's my next scheme?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at financial advisory that seemed like pretty

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<v Speaker 4>sneaky stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But what do you mean financial advisory?

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<v Speaker 4>You know the people who sell you like life insurance

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<v Speaker 4>or r R sps. I can get a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people are like you should join this, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh the pyramid, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, dude, why don't you do a like why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you do a real thing. By the way, this is

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<v Speaker 3>this goes out to by the way, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm okay, hold on, I'm gonna get on my

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<v Speaker 3>like on my fucking I'm gonna get on some entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 3>bro shit right now with this because I do I

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<v Speaker 3>fully mean this, and this is just like this is

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<v Speaker 3>my experience in my own life. You will, I do believe,

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<v Speaker 3>like long term, you will make more money, Like if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to do your own thing, you will make

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<v Speaker 3>more money doing something real. Like before I like before

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing the therapy Gecko, and I was like

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<v Speaker 3>before I was doing therapy, I was like nineteen. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny ten years ago when I was like eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen selling a if like AI was booming at the

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<v Speaker 3>time that I was like nineteen, I probably would have

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<v Speaker 3>been the kind of guy who was selling AI Pokemon

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<v Speaker 3>blankets because like I remember at that age, I just

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<v Speaker 3>remember having this feeling that I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people have now, this feeling of just like oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about to enter into the world and like I

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<v Speaker 3>need to find a way to have money or else

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fucked. So like, let me just scheme around endlessly

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<v Speaker 3>and try to find out like what the best scheme

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<v Speaker 3>is to like make a living, and like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think any of those. Like I was like

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do anything schemy, but it was like it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, I'll make like social media videos for

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<v Speaker 3>dentists or whatever, or I'll like you know, or like

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<v Speaker 3>airbnb arbitrage or just like stuff that's like schemey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that like there's no real value to it that's

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<v Speaker 3>being created. It's just kind of like a scheme. And

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<v Speaker 3>then like the scheme that ended up like working out

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<v Speaker 3>for me and making me able to make a living

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<v Speaker 3>is like you know, do it inter having having conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with people about like having having conversations with real human

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<v Speaker 3>beings about like shit and like you know, expressing myself

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<v Speaker 3>and making videos I wanted to make and like it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was the and I've probably made a way

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<v Speaker 3>better living like doing a thing that felt like real

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Then I would have made like doing some

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<v Speaker 3>crypto real estate fucking like bull bullshit fucking thing. So

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<v Speaker 3>like what the whole like schemey, I do think the

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<v Speaker 3>whole like scheme me, let me figure out a thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do this is just for money. Thing you I do,

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<v Speaker 3>I end up you feel like you end up making

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<v Speaker 3>less money than if you just like are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>what do I actually want to do? And like what

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<v Speaker 3>would actually be like helpful or expressive of mine or

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<v Speaker 3>or like you know, is there a local business I

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<v Speaker 3>could start or a thing like you know, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just right back to step one, right, Like what

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<v Speaker 4>is it? The wife just quit her job, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>just staying floating and then working weekends. I just have

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of time. But I'm just lookings and that

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<v Speaker 4>is that popped off. I was like, oh, this would

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<v Speaker 4>be funny to tell GEK, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Way just for for your next venture. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only I just that's the only thing. Like

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<v Speaker 3>for the next venture is like is it like what

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<v Speaker 3>what like is there anything real that you want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Right now? I was looking into early childhood education.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there we go, you know, take care and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that was one of them, like starting a daycare.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just been a slow process. That is, like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, the light just had to switch her job

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<v Speaker 4>and we're figuring stuff out. But get the education going

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<v Speaker 4>and see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 3>See that'd be great. Like if you see if you

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<v Speaker 3>started so you're not gonna get a fucking That would

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<v Speaker 3>be hilarious if you had like pictures of Pikachu up

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<v Speaker 3>on this because this happens to people, like if you

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<v Speaker 3>start a daycare and you have like pictures of Pikachu

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<v Speaker 3>up on the wall or whatever, like and you get

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<v Speaker 3>like a cease and desist from Pokemon again.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh right, we're shutting down your facilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry kids, dude, that does happen.

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<v Speaker 3>That happens to people with like did like you'll have

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of like Simba from the Lion King up

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<v Speaker 3>at like your preschool, and like Disney will come and

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<v Speaker 3>take it down.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard stuff like that. I even heard that. Uh

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<v Speaker 4>I think my stuff got caught because they went through

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<v Speaker 4>a huge thing towards to everybody, like if you have

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<v Speaker 4>Pokey in it, they were just like ceason desist.

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<v Speaker 3>But I like the daycare because that's a See that's

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<v Speaker 3>a if you if you told me, like, oh I

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<v Speaker 3>run a daycare, it's like that's a real thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll probably make I really like what you were making,

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<v Speaker 3>like five grand a month doing the AI. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was that was that in revenue or profit.

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<v Speaker 4>Revenue?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you'll probably make more money and hate your life

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<v Speaker 3>less doing a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair enough. Even right now I'm doing like before or

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<v Speaker 4>after school care and it's crazy money there too. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, it's just that was a silly thing that

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<v Speaker 4>popped off, and I was like, oh shit, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the daycare idea. That's cool. So this it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Physical it's like a physical space. There's like art. There's

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<v Speaker 3>like cool fun, interesting ways to be business y about

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<v Speaker 3>it and be creative about it. It's cool. I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is I think this is an evolution

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<v Speaker 3>for you. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, a picture and being on the like

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<v Speaker 4>in Hawaii or something. But no, you're right, there's more

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<v Speaker 4>satisfaction between like the difference between it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name again? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Rob? Rob? Rob?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 3>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, live life, enjoy it to your fullest, and peace out.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Rob, see around the universe, see you get. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I did a lot of ranting on this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna probably put this call before the call. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So I recorded this call before the call that you're

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<v Speaker 3>a wait. No, I recorded this call after the call

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<v Speaker 3>that you're about to hear. And I ranted a lot

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<v Speaker 3>on that one too. I felt like ranting a lot today. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>next episode, I'm gonna it's not rant as much, or

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<v Speaker 3>I will. I'm not sure. Okay, all right, let's let's

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<v Speaker 3>take the other call.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Holy shit, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>What is my name? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Your name is Tim. I'm calling you Tim. Here's what

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<v Speaker 3>I've noticed is people tell me their names. I forget them.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I make up a name, I remember it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a that's a strategy making up someone choosing a

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<v Speaker 3>name for someone so that you remember it is a

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 3>strategy that you can only really use if you're hosting

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<v Speaker 3>an anonymous call in show. You can't really do it

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<v Speaker 3>if you're at a park, like your friend. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>your friends invite you out to like a show or something,

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<v Speaker 3>or like a bar, and you they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come meet my friends, and you know, you meete

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<v Speaker 3>a guy and he goes, hey, my name's Adam. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't go, oh, your name is Tim. I'm gonna say that,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna choose you all over it. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>can do that. If I met someone at a bar

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<v Speaker 3>and I told them my name was Lyle and they said, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna call you Brian because I can remember that easier,

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<v Speaker 3>I would totally roll with that. I would be like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the most interesting I don't know. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not the kind of person that I could really keep

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<v Speaker 3>around in my life for a long amount of time,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would roll with it. I would be like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an interesting person. I want to know more

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<v Speaker 3>about them for an evening and then probably not have

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<v Speaker 3>them in my life recurringly, but at least I would

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<v Speaker 3>be interested in them for that one bit of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the kind of person who does that, Like, who

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<v Speaker 3>is that person?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I disagree with that. I feel the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite a.

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<v Speaker 3>Way really tell me more?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I don't know. I feel like there's some scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>where I could I could be interested in that.

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<v Speaker 4>I could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on the vibe of either the person or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>than myself or the environment. But I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>might be disrespected.

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<v Speaker 3>Interested. Well, well, that's because you're taking it. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>there's no reason to take that personally. You understand that

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<v Speaker 3>right like it, like they might, you might feel disrespected,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's that's stupid to feel disrespected in that moment

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<v Speaker 3>because clearly whatever's going on. Like if you meet someone

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time and you say my name is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever your name is, and they say, I'm actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm bad at remembering names. I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 3>you Brian instead so I can remember that, and you

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<v Speaker 3>feel disrespected by that, I think, I think that's dumb

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<v Speaker 3>because clearly that person is like a little insane and

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<v Speaker 3>has that has nothing to do with you, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like you can't. I it's pretty impossible,

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<v Speaker 3>I think to be disrespected by a person that you

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<v Speaker 3>have zero relationship with, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I see your point. I see that's very understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>But I and if someone did, I'm I love. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I do the show. I guess is I

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm interested in crazy folks. I met a woman

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<v Speaker 3>at a bar. Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think I'm I feel disrespected by you?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I think that you feel disrespected by me by

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<v Speaker 3>me calling you Tim?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and I'm not really interested in that

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<v Speaker 3>because this isn't an because our relationship in this is

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<v Speaker 3>that of an anonymous call in thing and name I

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 3>don't like, the names are not really important to me

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<v Speaker 3>in this space.

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<v Speaker 1>That's alpha male behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, I was. I met a lady at a

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<v Speaker 3>bar the other day and she was talking about how

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 3>homosexuality is a sin, and I was like, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>and like, you know, you know that those people exist, right,

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 3>you know that they exist on like the Internet and stuff.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, but I was like, oh, this is interesting.

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I maybe it's because I grew I didn't grow up.

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know people grew up in like, uh,

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, more rural parts of the country and stuff.

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, oh, it's in I've never met

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:46.239
<v Speaker 3>a person who actually believes that, and I want and

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm very curious why you think that,

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I don't know if there's a thing

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 3>of like just when people display behavior that's like bizarre

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 3>are or uncout. I don't know if it's a word

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 3>or not. But I'm like, oh, why are they?

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Who? What is I'm like, I've become observational, you know,

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't take anything. I try not to take shit,

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 3>uh personally at all. I just want to observe them

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 3>and cure I mean, I guess that's the thesis of

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 3>the podcast is like, I'm just curious. Yeah, well, I

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 3>mean we can get I'm sorry you get interrupted. Well,

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 3>we can we can get into it. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel disrespected by me calling you? Tim?

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely not, Lyle, Lyle. I'm a longtime listener. This

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is actually my second time taking a call from you.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>The last time we took a call, it got dropped

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>because I was using to somebody else's phone and they

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>called that phone during the And it's happening again right now.

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 3>What's happening again right now?

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>If somebody is calling me while you are on the.

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Phone with me, go to voice, Yeah, let me go

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 3>who wait o guess the last So we didn't really

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>get we didn't actually really talk whenever you last called. Okay, great, great,

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 3>but you know I I okay, So Tim, Uh, you

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 3>texted me a lot of stuff. You've texted me a

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff. We can talk about all of it?

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Why not?

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Fuck, I don't know if we should talk about

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see, Okay, well, the first text you sent me

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 3>was a year and a half ago. You said, the

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>amount of weed my grandfather smokes makes me feel like

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll be seventy five years old still smoking weed. Okay,

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>he hung up again. All right, See he did the

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 3>thing where the call dropped. Hold on, we're not I'm

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>not even gonna cut this part out because this is

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 3>central to the story of talking to this caller. We'll

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 3>call them back. Hold on, I have their Sometimes I

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 3>can call people back. Sometimes they can't. What the hell

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 3>happened to this guy? Why is he doing this? It's

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>going to call dropped? Hello, Hello, Lyle, Hey, are you back?

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I am back?

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Wait, why did that happen again?

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Because people keep calling me? I don't know. It's like

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a universal sign that we can't talk to you.

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.959
<v Speaker 3>What do you What do you mean that people can

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 3>That's not how a phone works, that people call you can.

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Phones give you the authority to choose Your phone can't.

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Force phil and somehow the phone call dropped. I don't

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>know what to tell you. I don't know to tell you.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Your phone can't force you to talk to someone.

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't. I didn't accept the call.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 3>All right, we're gonna do this whatever. I'll just keep

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 3>calling you back. I don't care. We're gonna have this

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 3>conversation and I'm not And every time the call drops,

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna edit it out. We're just gonna, I mean,

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 3>we'll stitch it all together.

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, those are actually, as a viewer, my

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>favorite type of call.

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Okay, good, good, good? What what the calls were? The

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>calls where nothing happens and it drops a lot.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, I like I like to hear your unfiltered thoughts

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>on you know, whatever situation is happening.

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's what you said. All right, here's what you

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 3>really Here's what you said on Thursday. You said, Lyle,

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>how are you not angry listening to all these stories,

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 3>going to these corners of the world, to the miraculous

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 3>bits of humanity outweigh the stain left by the majority.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I have a feeling I know how you'll answer, if

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 3>at all, why do you choose peacefulness overrage?

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I did? I did say that because, quite frankly, I

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>just I'm tired of a lot of aspects of the

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>world and of society.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you sound misanthropic.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know what that word means.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh misanthropic is like someone who has a general distaste

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>for people in humanity.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that kind of describes me.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, why do you have a general distaste for people

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 3>in humanity?

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like maybe maybe it has

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to do with I never fit in I guess widely

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>accepted by peers or even family.

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we're talking now about a dissatisfaction with your

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 3>place in the world rather than the world itself.

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think they kind of feed into each

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>other for at this point in my life.

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, But okay, so I want to I will

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 3>get into your place in the world. But this thing

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>of like do okay, this part of your message, do

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 3>the miraculous bits of humanity outweigh the stain left by

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 3>the majority? What do you like? What do you mean?

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 3>What kind of stain? What is the stain?

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's just all the and the aspects

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of maybe socializing or even communicating with other people that

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>just I find unnecessary, unnecessary and quite frankly grueling to

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>go through.

0:33:56.080 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh just socialization. Socialization is agonizing, oh for sure? Mm

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 3>hm And how long have you felt that way?

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Most of my life, I would say, I don't really

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>remember not feeling that way.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you have any people in your life that you

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 3>like talking to?

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>A few?

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, who are they?

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I have some friends from you know, high school or

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>even college. You know, people I play video games with.

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't really go to see them anymore. It's kind

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of tough. I don't really I hate I hate. I

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>hate driving too. I know you don't. I don't know

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 1>if you don't like driving, I know you prefer walkable areas.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I hate driving so much. It's the one time in

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the day you're gonna die, right, Yeah, I think about it.

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 1>That's statistically most likely to perish, and we're all forced

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to do it.

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I feel that so deeply. I think it's so

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 3>insane how much we've normalized. Uh, this thing that is

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 3>so easy to die doing is such a daily part

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 3>of our existence in America.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I won't I won't like act naive and say like

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>we haven't improved in terms of safety and regulation and

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>manufacturing the cars themselves. They're you know how they're like

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>collapsible now so that you're more likely to live. I

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>guess that's the science.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Hm hm, I keep hearing. I know I'm keeping in

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 3>all you know, by your request, I'm keeping in all

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>of these technical difficulty questions. I keep hearing myself like

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 3>a feedback every time time I talk.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Lyle, can I can I just that's because

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like actively doing something for my mom.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on? You can't, if you're all right, just

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 3>if we're gonna you can't, I can't. You can't apologize

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 3>for the phone but then also be doing something.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>What do you? What do you do? What do you?

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 2>What do you?

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 3>What do you do.

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>To the girl?

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 3>You're a walking contradiction. You hate people, and yet you're

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 3>talking to me while also talking to a bunch of

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>other people on text.

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Not my choice, not my choice, choice, you're my choice.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Why do you have hold on? Okay? Who's texting you

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 3>right now? And why do you have to respond to

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 3>it right now? Genuine is a genuine question.

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>It's my mother and she needed something for my father

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>related to is related to his work. So and it

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>was immediate. They were at they were at he does

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff with cars, so they were at a business. They

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>were at like this tire place, and he needed a

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>picture of the size of his tire.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 3>All Right, that's a good enough that's a good enough

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 3>explanation of that.

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Lyle.

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to. You don't have to, you don't

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 3>have to apologize. Wait, well, am I on the speakerphone?

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 3>Still we're not cutting any of this out? Am I

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>on the speakerphone?

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>No, not anymore?

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, who do you? Who do you talk to the

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 3>most in this life? Is your mom?

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Who do you talk to the most?

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question at this point. Probably this one

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>friend I have that I play video games with?

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, or do you like them?

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, what the hell?

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.439
<v Speaker 3>All right, we're you know, we're doing this podcast. I'm

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 3>not letting whatever the fuck is going on with this happen.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>We're doing it.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm sorry.

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I so you know what I forgive you. We're gonna

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 3>do We're no, we're doing this. We're doing this phone call.

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm determined. I will find where you live. I will

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 3>walk there and we will have the We're doing this.

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>I can do anything I set my mind to. In

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 3>soaking you. Okay, you have one friend, you play video

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 3>games with him, but you're in so you Okay, this

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 3>text and by the way, just so you know, because

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 3>you sent me at the end of the text, you're like,

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 3>why do you choose peacefulness over rage? And just so

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I totally I totally uh all the time.

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you listen to this show. You know, I

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.919
<v Speaker 3>have an insane amount of existential dread and shit.

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 3>All the time, all the time, I do genuinely look

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 3>at the world and I look at like crazy shit,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 3>and I do wonder. I'm like, how is like is

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 3>life worth living for a lot of people, like because

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 3>most people because like I don't know, Man, I live

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.280
<v Speaker 3>in fucking I mean, we live. Do you live in America?

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I do? I do. I live on the East Coast

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 1>as well.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 3>You live on the East Coast? Are you like, how

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 3>did you did you grow up? Like Dick? Did you

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 3>have enough money to like, did you have enough money

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 3>to like eat food and stuff?

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I I didn't grow up you know, poor or

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like low class. I'm saying that poorly. I meant that

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I grew up fortunate lucky.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, well, I know I feel like most of

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the I feel like I do get existential about the

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 3>thing of like I most you know, I grew up

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 3>like decent. I grew up pretty good in America, and

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 3>it's like for most of human history in most places,

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 3>I think like life has low key sucked, but I

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 3>also think, yeah, life is oky sucking, and I have

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 3>wonder I'm like why is like oh fuck, that's kind

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 3>of crazy, like is that not? But also like society

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 3>has kept going and people keep living and like there

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 3>is good. There is like things that are like inherent

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 3>about the human experience and about just like the body

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 3>in general, that make it want to keep being alive.

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 3>And like, I don't know, there's like probably like there's

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 3>some dude living in like you know, poverty in India

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.720
<v Speaker 3>who like their life, like I guess on paper sucks,

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 3>but they're not like I don't but like are they

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're in I don't know. I

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know if but they but they there are What

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 3>am I trying to say? There are probably people who

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 3>still figure out just figure out to like live life

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>and figure out like their own version of happiness that's

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>much less less complex than like whatever the you know,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 3>western modern American you have everything. Everything's great version of

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 3>finding happiness is you know, I don't know what do

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 3>you think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I get what you're saying too. Honestly,

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it feels very relatable. The more I think about it,

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the more I feel about it. It's it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Has, you know, everybody else has well.

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Has like a you know, they have the guide. They

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>have like the video game guide, or they have the

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>they have the rules, they have everything, some sort of

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>collection of knowledge that I don't.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh, what are you looking for a guide to?

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>What am I not looking a guide for? While socializing?

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 2>For one? Mm hmm?

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>What isn't there a guys wealth building? I know that's

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>like you're not a Dave Ramsey type, but you kind

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of are at the same time, you know whatever. I

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>know you always talk about going to a spot, finding

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a spot to go to, going there and developing friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it's great.

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like you. But I don't know. It's

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just like I hate driving. I hate people. No matter

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.760
<v Speaker 1>where I go, I find a reason I hate them.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh. Well, I'm actually I actually am familiar with

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:53.760
<v Speaker 3>the idea. I'm very familiar with the idea of feeling

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 3>like everyone else has the guidebook on how to live

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 3>like I definitely I Yeah, I'm very familiar with the

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 3>idea of like, oh fuck, why why do I why

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 3>does everyone else feel like they're a normal human being?

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 3>And I just don't know how to fucking do it.

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 3>But I don't really have the answers. But like, but

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 3>there is there really is no guidebook, you know. I

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>mean you know this, you know that there's no fucking

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>like guide. But I can tell, I can tell that

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>you're a I can tell you're an existential motherfucker. You know.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 3>There's no objective way to you know, there's no objective

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 3>way to do anything right. I mean, you can decide

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.919
<v Speaker 3>how you want to live your life. Now Listen, if

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>if you want to like let yourself be, if you

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 3>want to like feed the wolves of all of your

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>worst shit, then you're probably gonna end up like alone

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and isolated. And that's I don't know if that's like healthy.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 3>But you also can't. Yeah, but you also the thing

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 3>of like, I it's hard because I'm not I naturally

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 3>am someone who like wants to be around people, not

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 3>like one hundred percent of the time all the time.

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm a very ambiverted I guess is the fucking word.

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 3>But uh, like I'm trying. I think that like a

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 3>space for you to exist and like a group of

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 3>people that you identify with is out there. It just

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 3>must be created or found in some way, you know,

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 3>because I don't know, dude, we're like I get, I

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 3>get being like anti social and being an introvert. Like,

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's a thing. I know that it's like

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 3>it's like kind of it's kind of popular, like like

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like a it's like a millennial cringe core thing

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 3>to be like, ugh, I hate people. People suck, you

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:04.879
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's the worst part. It's like you can't you

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 1>can't exist in that space publicly because then it's like

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>it's millennial core. Like you said, it's cringe. No one

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to be around it, and no one wants to

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be perceived in it either.

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think I don't actually think that that's

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 3>an I don't think that like, oh people's people suck

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 3>is an unpopular sentiment. I think a lot of people.

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I actually think it's more. I think it's popular to

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, people suck, life's the worst. Uh, you know,

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I love I got my TV at home and and

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I order a takeout I got my cat and life

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 3>is good. Like I think that that's a I think

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.359
<v Speaker 3>that's a popular sentiment. And and by the way, if

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 3>you're if you are saying that ship and like you

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 3>are happy and you genuinely are happy. That to to

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of tie it back to like the guide, right,

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.240
<v Speaker 3>like if you have your fucking cat and your pizza

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 3>and your TV and you are genuinely happy with that,

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 3>like that's the rhythm. Like you get to decide what

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the rhythm of your life is like. And if that's

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the rhythm of your life that you fuck with, like

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:23.720
<v Speaker 3>that's fine, but I is that? But is that the case?

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Like when you think about that rhythm of life? Like

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 3>do you actually did? Did? Did?

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you?

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Are you whole? Do you resonate with that?

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'd like that rhythm of life if you

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>know my all my dolls were paid and I had

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>money and I lived alone mm hmm, you know, and

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a fucking harem.

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Shut the fuck up, dude, what are you talking about?

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if everything else was in line, then yeah, I'd

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>love to be Oh.

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I thought, I'm sorry, you want to have I'm sorry.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I thought you said I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>thought you said you you had it, you have a harem.

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 3>I thought you want to have it? You okay, okay,

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 3>never byd I thought you said you. I thought you

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 3>said you have a harem.

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you want to have a haram. Okay, that's way

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 3>more reasonable. Okay, uh hmm, Okay, but like I don't

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.720
<v Speaker 3>know where but yeah, but like sure, yeah, sure, but where?

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 3>But like, where are you? Where are you at?

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck in the job that I just got laid

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>off from that I have to finish my contract out

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in my parents' house that you know barely tolerate my presence.

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Your parents barely tolerate your presence.

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm over exaggerating. They listened to this podcast.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Your parents listen to the podcast.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>My mom does.

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's funny. Who discovered it first?

0:47:58.719 --> 0:47:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Me?

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>That's funny. Hold on, you have other things you wanted

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 3>to talk about. Okay, here we go.

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh, maybe don't read all those.

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Uh, well, I don't know which ones you want

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 3>me to not read. You said, daddy issues.

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't even know what I said, to be

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, I'm not looking at the text. I'm

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>just like trying to keep for the best listening experience.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not moving my hand.

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 3>All right, I have about this. I'll have this. I'll

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 3>read a text and if it resonates with you, we

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>can talk about it. Does daddy issues resonate with you

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 3>in this?

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 3>All right, you send me that two years?

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 3>All right, how about this, I'm being guilt tripped into

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 3>going to a wedding. Does that resonate?

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, that resonates me?

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Are you still going? Did you end up going to

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 3>the wedding?

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I had to?

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>How was it awful?

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Why was it awful?

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't like my family?

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Is family like my immediately Yeah?

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>It was my immediately immediate family, and I don't really

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>appreciate or care for them.

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Com feelings YouTube, So why did you go to this wedding?

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I depend on my parents' household and I was

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 1>told either go or get kicked out.

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So all right, so you're trying to you you're

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to get You're trying to you're trying to like

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 3>start living your own life. It sounds you want to

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 3>get out of your parents' house. Okay, I feel like

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 3>this conversation is going to dive us into a Dave

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey conversation, which.

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I know and I know you kind of hate that.

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And I don't really want to bring you there if

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go there.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:07.399
<v Speaker 2>But that's just.

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>That's that's my situation. A lot of things.

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll go.

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's say about a lot of things politically, economically, financially, whatever.

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to talk to you about traveling to

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Japan as a teacher. Oh, did you do the Japan

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 3>teaching thing?

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You are?

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Waitless? What is it? The jet program? That's the English

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 3>teacher span thing. Did I have a friend in real

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 3>life that I actually you know, it's funny. I have

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 3>a friend in real life that you remind me exactly of.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>We probably would be friends in real life.

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know you're.

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Close enough to my age's.

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm twenty eight. There's a friend of mine. Yeah,

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 3>there's a friend of mine. He went to be a

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 3>teacher in Japan. He dreams of having a hairum, he's

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 3>got a cat. He doesn't. He's a little bit of

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 3>an introvert. Now, okay, you know what all right, all right?

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 3>How about this?

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 3>You?

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Hm?

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Which?

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>What? Let me? What's Tim?

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>There? We go?

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Tim? Where what happened to? Would you like this conversation

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 3>to go down preferably to you?

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:34.240
<v Speaker 2>How do you cope?

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>How do you cope? Last?

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 3>How do I cope?

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not skilled?

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Uh well I have I have many I have My

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 3>life as is. Actually perhaps existence as a whole for

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 3>everyone is a series of coping and no, no, no, no,

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I take that back. I take that back, you know,

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 3>I take that back. I'm tired of this nihilistic fucking bullshit,

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 3>the existential fucking bullshit. I'm tired of it. I don't

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 3>want to do it anymore. I feel bad spreading it

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 3>on the podcast to other people, like a fucking virus.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 3>The I don't think life is just coping. I don't

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 3>think existence is suffering. I don't think any of that

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:23.479
<v Speaker 3>shit at all. But uh I do. Yeah there, But yes,

0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 3>life is hard. I undeniably do think that life is

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 3>like hard. I don't know if it inherently has to be.

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 3>But to answer your question, the way I cope is

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 3>either through uh insanely destructive uh behaviors that just like

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of fuck my life up and get me further

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 3>away from the person I want to be or uh

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 3>through positive behaviors like doing meaningful work and engaging in

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 3>meaningful relationships. And a lot of my life is a

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 3>struggle between the ideal version of myself that primarily copes

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 3>through engaging in meaningful work and meaningful relationships versus the

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 3>version of myself that copes with destructive behaviors. So that

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 3>that's my answer to that question. I don't think existence

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 3>is suffering. I don't think that life is a series

0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>of coping. I hate all that nihilistic shit. I think

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:49.240
<v Speaker 3>it's stupid. I want to, Yeah, I think it's stupid.

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 3>After like marinating in it for so fucking life, I

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 3>just think it's fucking so dumb to be like nihilistic

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 3>and existential.

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Is this people like positive nihilism? I know sometimes you

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:05.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of ride that high.

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I try to, but I just don't want to. Just

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 3>don't want to. Is this exhausting? Is this dudie? It

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 3>has no you know what? I actually did you watch

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 3>the I made this documentary in Ukraine? Do you you

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't watch that? I did you?

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually haven't yet.

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I've been I watched I made this document I went

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>to Ukraine to make this documentary and I I this

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:31.319
<v Speaker 3>guy Roman was showing me around and he went on

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:35.240
<v Speaker 3>this whole rant to me about like why he thinks

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 3>that nihilism and extentialism is so like stupid and why

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 3>he like, uh whatever. He just went on this rant

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 3>to me about it. And I was like, man, this guy, like,

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, his fucking like family is dying in a war,

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 3>and like he's seen like he's like his like this

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:56.840
<v Speaker 3>guy's childhood was so much more fucked up than mine.

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 3>This guy's like seeing so much more fucked up shit

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.439
<v Speaker 3>than I have, and like he's still is and he's

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 3>not like a wallower or like a oh life is

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.080
<v Speaker 3>suffering and how do we cope with it? He's just

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 3>like living his life and like doing shit and making

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:17.919
<v Speaker 3>art and like being and existing and like just having

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 3>a good time. And like that's what That's what I

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 3>want to be. I don't want to be like a

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 3>fucking nihilistic wallower anymore. It's just not.

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess for me. That's where you get back to

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>the guidebook.

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, it feels like he has the guidebook. That's

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a guy that has the guidebook. And I kind of

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 1>have a person like that in my life who who's

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely like, yeah, I've had way more shit happened to

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:49.760
<v Speaker 1>me than the work than regular people or other people

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>who are like me. And it's like, if I could

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>do it, then you can do it, you.

0:55:56.600 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Know, dude, I uh, listen, listen like this, this is

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:04.400
<v Speaker 3>like a work in progress for me. So yeah, the

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm just I'm just chalking it up to a decision

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 3>at this point. And again, the coping thing is like, uh,

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 3>when I when I when I engage in meaningful when

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I engage in meaningful work, or I engage in like community,

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:25.320
<v Speaker 3>or I engage in like relationships, all that ship goes away.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like there, you know, So that that's

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 3>how I try to cope. That's what I'm trying to do.

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:38.879
<v Speaker 3>But you can't, well you don't want to. You can't

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 3>just wallow for for that long because you'll just it's yeah,

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 3>it's not it's it's just kind of a brand of bullshit.

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 3>There's no point. And and you see people all this,

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:57.319
<v Speaker 3>I know, look, we're all fucking we all we all

0:56:57.400 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 3>live in the same world, and like you see people

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 3>like you know, all this dude, like, like we all

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 3>live in the same world. You see people every day

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 3>who like manage to like be yes, the guidebook people. Yes,

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 3>the people who you believe have a guide book of

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 3>some kind, who just like live their life and they're

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 3>like on Mondays, I go to the gym and on Thursday,

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I uh do like you know, I don't know whatever.

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Just people who like who don't live like that, like

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 3>if they can, I do genuine believe if they can

0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 3>do it, you can do it. Like you know, you're

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 3>just just just just be here, man, I don't know.

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:46.919
<v Speaker 3>That's all I That's that's the best I got on

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 3>that for now.

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, thank you.

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just just just just be here just being grossed

0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 3>in something. I mean, I I I just I just

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 3>got tired. I'm not like I don't know if it's

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 3>like okay, it's a it's a work in progress, but

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 3>I just got times as tired of like being in

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 3>like a depressive nihilistic thing.

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 3>I just want to be like a normal person of

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 3>the world and like engage and I don't want to

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 3>like I don't want to like wear nihilism or existentialism,

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 3>like even the positive nihilism. Shit, it's like like, I

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 3>don't want to wear this ship as a badge. I

0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 3>don't wanna have it be part of my ID. I

0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 3>just don't want anything to do with it.

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel very similarly. That's the most relatable thing,

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Let's see you wrote, oh were you wrote? I want

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 3>to tell you a story of gluttony. Okay, let's hear

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the story of gluttony before we go.

0:58:59.320 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Is that it is that all it said?

0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 3>No, you said I have three stories for you based

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 3>on your mood. A story of heroism, a story of gluttony,

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and a story of rage. And I'm choosing a story

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 3>of gluttony.

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what I could have been talking

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:21.919
<v Speaker 1>about at that time. I'm sorry to let you down.

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have I don't have a story of gluttony

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what, you should go out there today

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and uh and make one box of pop tarts or something.

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I will I will allow just just for you.

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Good.

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what, it's not for you.

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, Tim, yes, Tim?

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:59:55.400 --> 1:00:01.439
<v Speaker 3>Wait what the fuck? Hold on wait wait wait wait

1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 3>wait wait wait did you tell me your name was

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Tim or did I give you that name?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you gave me that name.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on. Fucking two years ago you texted me

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<v Speaker 3>and you said, my name is Tim. I'm twenty four

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:16.600
<v Speaker 3>years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, it is totally a fake name. It is not

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 1>my name. However, what people use that for me as

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a fake name?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, so wait, you're telling me that the fake

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.840
<v Speaker 3>name that I gave you is the same as the

1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 3>fake name that you use.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in the first call, but when you took when

1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you took my first call, my fake name was Murray.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not forgeting out. I'm talking about this. There is

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<v Speaker 3>no first like this this call, this call.

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<v Speaker 2>This call, yeah, this call.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole time it was Tim, all right, the fake

1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 1>name that you gave me. And then I think I

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:50.240
<v Speaker 1>texted you a fake name.

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<v Speaker 3>You texted me that your name was Tim. You texted

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:55.080
<v Speaker 3>me your fake name was Tim. But then I'm just okay.

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<v Speaker 3>All I'm saying is it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a massive coincidence.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a massive coincidence. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little crazy. Tim. Yes, Wow, join the fucking

1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:17.120
<v Speaker 3>living dude. We're gonna join the living, Tim, Tim, are

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<v Speaker 3>you there? Tim?

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<v Speaker 1>I am there.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna join the living, Tim, I'm tired, you're tired.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna join the living. That's my That's been my

1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 3>fucking motto for myself. It's just like, join the join,

1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 3>join the join the living. That's all. Listen. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have a guide, right, they don't. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a guide, Tim, They're just the living. When you look,

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at those people who who have a

1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 3>guy who you think have a guide, recognize that they

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:55.800
<v Speaker 3>don't have a guide. Uh, they're just the living, and

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<v Speaker 3>join them. Just join the living.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try my best, get I know.

1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna try my fucking best to do. We're gonna

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 3>join the fucking living, Dude. That's what I want to do.

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I want to join the living. I want to stop

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 3>being a fucking crazy person.

1:02:12.520 --> 1:02:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I really want to stop being a

1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy person, because it's it's hard being a crazy person.

1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Had a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 1>An angry person.

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<v Speaker 3>But also, dude, I'm but I I know, but like,

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<v Speaker 3>but Tim, Like, here's the thing, sorry, this is another rant,

1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:33.760
<v Speaker 3>but like, here's the thing about here's The thing about

1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:38.880
<v Speaker 3>being anti social is that like I do look whatever,

1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a real therapist, but I'm just like, this

1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:43.720
<v Speaker 3>is just this is just all the ship I say

1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.840
<v Speaker 3>on here is just me pontificating on my own experience

1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:50.800
<v Speaker 3>of life. But like, you also have to realize that

1:02:50.920 --> 1:02:58.920
<v Speaker 3>a change in your environment mm hmm mh Like, a

1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:08.120
<v Speaker 3>change in your environment will prompt like changes in your

1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:11.480
<v Speaker 3>behavior and shit. So like, if you want to like

1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:16.200
<v Speaker 3>discover new versions of yourself, perhaps even a version of

1:03:16.240 --> 1:03:20.720
<v Speaker 3>yourself that feels more aligned with the living and more

1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:25.520
<v Speaker 3>aligned with the guidebook, you have to put yourself in

1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:28.320
<v Speaker 3>situations where you're talking to new people and you're in

1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:33.720
<v Speaker 3>new environments, because you can't unlock new versions of yourself

1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:38.080
<v Speaker 3>alone in a room. I mean this is a documented experience,

1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:42.400
<v Speaker 3>like the like you can have a conversation with someone

1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:44.600
<v Speaker 3>and then the way that person's talking to you like

1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:51.080
<v Speaker 3>unlocks versions of yourself and like feelings about yourself and like,

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<v Speaker 3>like you like you can be talking to someone and

1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.360
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, I'm actually funny, I've been just been

1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:56.800
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with people who like, don't bring that out

1:03:56.800 --> 1:03:58.800
<v Speaker 3>of me. Or you can go somewhere or be a

1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:02.120
<v Speaker 3>part of something that like just brings new versions of

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<v Speaker 3>yourself out of you. And if you sit.

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<v Speaker 1>At home because some of this stuff, this is where

1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna bring me on a rant, because some of

1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:15.000
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that makes me feel live. Honestly, all the

1:04:15.040 --> 1:04:16.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff that makes me feel like I'm part of the

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<v Speaker 1>living is locked behind such a financial wall. And to

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<v Speaker 1>change the environment locked behind such a financial wall. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is where you You don't want to

1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:29.280
<v Speaker 1>get Dave Ramsey, uh, And I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>you Dave Ramsey. But it's just something. Not all of

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<v Speaker 1>it is existential dread. Some of it is financial dreads.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that's that's that's just me right now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, sure, that stuff is that stuff is that stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is realist. You're you, you are you are being real

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<v Speaker 3>as fuck right now? Like what like going to like oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just the thing of like, oh, if I want to

1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:55.920
<v Speaker 3>go to a place or talk to a person, I

1:04:55.920 --> 1:04:58.760
<v Speaker 3>gotta fucking like put put you know, seven dollars a

1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:01.320
<v Speaker 3>gallon gas in my car and go to the fucking

1:05:01.360 --> 1:05:03.640
<v Speaker 3>thing and pay the due and like just all that ship.

1:05:04.840 --> 1:05:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of, but more like, oh, if I want

1:05:07.080 --> 1:05:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, doing stuff like that that costs

1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:12.960
<v Speaker 1>money or you know, living. I love traveling, like like

1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you said before all and I said that I wanted

1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to be in the jet program. I've been to Japan

1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:23.680
<v Speaker 1>before and it was awesome, so I wanted to teach

1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:27.120
<v Speaker 1>their right. And even though that's not great pay right,

1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:30.720
<v Speaker 1>everything else is you know, less expensive. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>way to experience it and have the experience I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, a less rate, a cheap rate. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like saying I'm a cheap aster. But it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know it don't make the most.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you mean, I I I I get you.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand. I understand that there is a financial barrier

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<v Speaker 3>to putting yourself out there to do new ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. But but I don't know, Man, where

1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:07.760
<v Speaker 3>do you live?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to dos myself. I kind of already

1:06:14.560 --> 1:06:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have for you know, because my mom listen to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>But are do you live in like a city?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I live in like a suburb, like a moderately

1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:30.440
<v Speaker 1>middle class maybe upper middle suburb. Okay, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like I'm like a whiney baby, right, Like, Oh,

1:06:33.320 --> 1:06:35.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy lives at his parents.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think you're being a whiney, but I

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I I uh the viewers wile I'm thinking about the viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>But sure, but I interrupted you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I I would I listen. I could

1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:51.680
<v Speaker 3>get all Dave Ramsey on you for sure and the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, I don't know, man, at the end of

1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:56.800
<v Speaker 3>the day, I do feel like you got Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my job even though I got laid off.

1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I love I love it. I love it low I teach.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing the dopamine I get from when when somebody

1:07:19.760 --> 1:07:24.400
<v Speaker 1>gets something right, or they understand something, or they're able

1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:26.720
<v Speaker 1>to to, you know, do something. They have a skill,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a you know what I mean, they create

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<v Speaker 1>something amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now, you're not entirely you're you're not like you

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<v Speaker 3>have like you're not like a hopeless lost cause of

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<v Speaker 3>a being on the planet. You have you have meaningful work,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have the desire to engage yourself in meaningful

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<v Speaker 3>relationships and community. But you're you're not there yet. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it an accurate read?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yet just feels far away.

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<v Speaker 3>Hm hm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm. Phone dopamine addiction, you see everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, no, it's it's uh. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 3>form a parasocial relationship with a cat online or a

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<v Speaker 3>lizard or a lizard. Mm, Tim, Yes, how do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like this phone call went?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's everything I've ever wanted get and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's not everything you've ever wanted. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you want for more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, especially after the first time where my call dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was and then it was I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening again.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim, is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 3>the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer. The people of the computer should

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<v Speaker 1>get off the computer and learn a skill, become valuable.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. I think I think it's good to do stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Get off the computer, go outside, don't kill yourself, and

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<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, look at a dog or some ship. Thank you, Tim,

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck man, good luck man. Try to figure some

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<v Speaker 3>ship out. Trying to figure some ship out, man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>good okay, good, okay, good.

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<v Speaker 1>Join a living Tim, I will, I will, while I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you come to my area. I am on the

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<v Speaker 1>text chain.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Okay, cool? Where's it what they living? You

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<v Speaker 3>can't give me the state.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I should. All Right, I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>agent of the state, I teach.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, you are an agent of the state. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so good. All right, I'll see you around the universe. Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, Lyle. I have a great have

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<v Speaker 1>a great more calls today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Tim. That was Tim. We're joining the living folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I know if I feel like I've like

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<v Speaker 3>bummed everyone out in this pipet, like I don't, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to do like existential fucking bullshit. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really care about it. That's not true. That's not I

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<v Speaker 3>can care about It's like I'm like, I just I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to be done. And it's okay to engage

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<v Speaker 3>in conversations about it every now and then, but it

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<v Speaker 3>just feels like a thing that I don't I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be like a recurring It's such a

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<v Speaker 3>fucking it's like a it's such a crazy thing. Because

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<v Speaker 3>I do I do think that like exploring that stuff

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<v Speaker 3>it makes for like better art and like good conversations

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<v Speaker 3>and like better understanding of the world. But like it,

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<v Speaker 3>there's got to be like a way to approach it

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<v Speaker 3>that feels less crazy. I suppose. I don't know, we

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<v Speaker 3>can talk like I'd rather like talk about the best

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<v Speaker 3>flavor of dog treats for you know, seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 3>my life. I know, it's where I mean this, Hold on,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to gather my fucking dumbass thoughts. But like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes it feels like some people like like existentialism and

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<v Speaker 3>all this crap, like you know, maybe it's like ten

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the thoughts and the other ninety percent are

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<v Speaker 3>just like, oh, what are we having for dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And like I'd like to be if right now my

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<v Speaker 3>life is like ninety percent existentialism and ten percent what

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<v Speaker 3>are we having for dinner? I'd like to get to

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<v Speaker 3>like I'd like to have a good you know. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like with like in all of life, you have your

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<v Speaker 3>your pie chart, I suppose, and I'd like to spend

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<v Speaker 3>about Uh. I'd like to spend like eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>my life like existing and being in it, and then

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty percent can be reserved for thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to spend way more time existing in life

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<v Speaker 3>than thinking about it, is how i'd put it. Say

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<v Speaker 3>you can still think about it, but it's more time living.

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<v Speaker 1>It never goes on the line taking your phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>every nine, goes to just teaching you loud in

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<v Speaker 3>The Memorial life really an expert