1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: We have got a loaded Thursday edition of the program 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: for all of you. Miranda Divine going to join us 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: here in the first hour to talk about secret airlifts 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants rolling into the United States. In the 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: second hour, sorry, third hour, Jeddadada Baila Jedidiah Bila Man, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm Jeddadiabela god I have. That's like one of the 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: most complicated names out there. I've only known her ten years, 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: so I've had to get her name right over the years. 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: But it is hard, I agree, and I'm probably gonna 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: screw this one up too. Just to right off the 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: top of Raheem Kasam, did I get that right? Nailed 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: that one, all right. He's a fancy British guy, so 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: you gotta get his name right, all right. So all 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: of those are our guest. In the near future, Joe 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Biden is going to be appearing in the White House 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: with Stephen Bryer to announced that Stephen Bryer stepping down, presumably, 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: although it hasn't been a officially announced. At the end 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: of this term in the Supreme Court, which will end 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: at the end of June, right as summer officially begins. 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: So there will be a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing and 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: there will be a nominee coming forward soon. This news 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: broke yesterday, and Buck and I discussed the political ramifications 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: of it. But as I think more and more about 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: this situation, and I know the same is true for you, Buck, 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: as I look at all of the finalists, and as 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: I have since heard re echoed the campaign promised that 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden made that he would put a black woman 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court if he had an opportunity to 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: do so. Jensaki yesterday in the White House confirmed that 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to put a black woman on 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Here is what she said in responds 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: to a question about the potential opening. This was yesterday. 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I've commented on this previously. The President has stated and 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: reiterated his commitment to nominating a black woman to the 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and certainly stands by that for today. Again, 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to be able to say anything 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: about any specifics until, of course, Justice Brier makes any 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: announcement should he decide to make an announcement. So Buck, 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: here's what jumps out to me about this, and this 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: is me putting my lawyer head on. If you are 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: a lawyer, theoretically the highest office to which you can 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: aspire is to be sitting on the Supreme Court. I 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: understand maybe some people want to be the Attorney General, 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: but if you want to have a public facing job, 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, one of those nine seats is the 48 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: highest level of acumen in the legal profession that you 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: could aspire to. What Joe Biden is doing here is 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: truly unprecedented in a post civil rights era, in the 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: modern era that most of us have grown up in 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: and lived in in the United States. He is saying explicitly, 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: I am not going to consider ninety four percent of 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: the American public for this job. He is specifically saying 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: that the six percent of the population that is black women, 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: and much smaller percentage of those black women that are 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: theoretically have legal and judicial experience, are the entire list 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: from which he will be picking his Supreme Court nominee. 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: I think, first of all, this is everything that's wrong 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: with the idea of affirmative action, of diversity and inclusion 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: of the entire process of selecting people for office, primarily 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons here and then, I want 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: to get what you think Buck. First, whoever Biden selects 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: now is going to be seen as a quota selection. 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: That's unfair to her because there are likely twenty five, 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: thirty forty five fifty people we know a list as 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: substantial of people who would be eligible to be the 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: next Supreme Court justice. Some of those people would be 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: black women. If your list is from across the entire 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: landscape of judicial potential nominees, then people don't look at 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: it and say, oh, the only reason you got this 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: job is because you're a black woman. The way that 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden buck has made this selection makes it such 74 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: that most people are going to say that. Second, we 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: have coming up soon a Supreme Court case dealing with 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina and Harvard primarily focused on 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: Asian applicants. That is going to say, I believe the 78 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: use of race to make decisions as it pertains to 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: college admissions is wrong. Here we have a clear quota 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: being applied by Joe Biden. This is wrong. You may 81 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: have Joe Biden's one and only appointment to the Supreme 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: Court on unconstitutional and illegal illegal principles. Really, and when 83 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: you think about it, especially if the Supreme Court ruling 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: is as I think you are correct, that you can't 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: actually make distinctions about race and admissions in hiring, in 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: any of these things. The whole system and anybody who's 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: gone to college in the last well, probably the last 88 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty or forty years, but certainly the last twenty years 89 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: has seen the way this is applied is premised upon 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: essentially dishonesty, right, the dishonesty, and this is what goes 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: to the heart of the Harvard case is we have 92 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: this holistic admissions process, we look at all these different factors. 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: But that's actually not true. That's just the lie. It's 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of like saying when people are applying for a 95 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: country club and everyone says, well, hold on a second, 96 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: you don't allow people of this religion or this race 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: in your country club. They say, oh, but there are 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: so many factors, we're not discriminating against people. Well, hold 99 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: on a second, are you or are you not right? 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can pretend that it's also vague and complicated, 101 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: but what's the end result. The end result at places 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: like Harvard and naming elite school across the country. Is 103 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: that there are some people of certain racial backgrounds who 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: get a substantial advantage. And this has proven in the 105 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: numbers based upon skin color flat not equal protection under 106 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: the law, unconstitutional, And even the Supreme Court decision that 107 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned yesterday, Grutter v. Bollinger. I think it was 108 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: Sandra Day O'Connor right that we won't need this in 109 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: twenty five years, or was Kennedy? He said, yeah, that's absurd. 110 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Think about a constitutional right where the Supreme Court declares 111 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: there's an expiration date and on, which is exactly what 112 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: they did and on. And that's just policy from the bench. 113 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: That's just legislating for the bench. On the notion of 114 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Biden announcing this, you know, I actually it took a 115 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: little bit of processing when when we broke this on 116 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: the air together Clay and then I went almost said, 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: hold on a second, how is this if Biden said 118 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: if you want on TV and he said, hey, you know, 119 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I've got this great property in Delaware, I'm only going 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: to rent it out to Asian Americans because I'm I'm 121 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: upset about you know, aapi discrimination or whatever right people 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: say you can't do that. That's illegal. If he said 123 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: I'm only going to hire if you were running a 124 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: company you said I'm only going to hire a you know, 125 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: an Asian female CEO because I want to make a 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: people would say that's clearly discrimination and illegal. So what's 127 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: the way that they actually go about this. They say, well, 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it that explicit. We're gonna have 129 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: a stealth quota is what I call it. Clay. We 130 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: all see what's going on here, and you're totally right 131 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: by the way. It undermines because obviously there are brilliant 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: black female jurists who could completely take this role, take 133 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: this job. But why create this perception that they essentially 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: got an affirmative action assistance in the process. Right, It's 135 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: because it's explicit quit pro quol for Biden politically, he's 136 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: undercutting the legitimacy of his own pick by saying, I'm 137 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: only going to consider people of this particular race in 138 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: this particular gender. And I went to a fairly high 139 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: end law school. I graduated from Vanderbilt, you know, top fifteen, 140 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: top twenty law school. And what I found interesting when 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I was there Buck and I graduated what two thousand 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: and four, so it's been over twenty years ago. But 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, those affirmative action cases came down 144 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: while I was a student at Vanderbilt Law School. Is 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Law School is an incredibly diverse place, such that 146 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: when we would do our on campus interviews, I remember 147 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the people that would interview those not 148 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: surprising high end lawyers at that time, a lot of 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: old white guys, right. They would come in. They had 150 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: these little rooms you would go in, and I remember 151 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: there being conversations about in those firms. They would say, oh, 152 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: we need a lot more female attorneys. And what I 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: found to be so interesting, and this is my generation, 154 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: there were more women in my law school class at 155 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt than there were men. That was a seismic shift 156 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: in terms of the legal profession. I believe that is 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: consistent now across all of all of the legal profession. 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: Right in terms of law schools, I think more women 159 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: go to law school now than men, and women are graduating. 160 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this on the show while 161 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: back buck. At a rate around sixty percent of all 162 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: college degrees now are being earned by women in the 163 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: United States. Men have fallen down to around forty percent. 164 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Those numbers are roughly accurate. What I'm getting at is 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: the idea that you would have to establish a quota 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: based on this generation and I'm counting myself at forty 167 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: two as a generation that would include people up to 168 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: the ages of fifty two fifty five. Places like that 169 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: where the Supreme Court era is being considered, is totally 170 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: without merit to say you have to only pick someone 171 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: based on their race and gender. Because as you said, 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: there are many black women who are eminently qualified to 173 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: sit on the Supreme Court. You are essentially saying that 174 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: they aren't able to compete with other jurists. When you 175 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: say I'm only going to pick a black woman, You're 176 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: not allowing them to compete head to head with all 177 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: the other people of different races and genders out there. 178 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: And this is what Clarence Thomas has referred to, including 179 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: in his own autobiography, and Clarence Thomas refers to how 180 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the left actually undermines a lot of high achieving minorities 181 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: there with their political pandora and with their desire to 182 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: pat themselves meeting white liberals on the back for oh 183 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: look at us, We're so good. We're pushing for more 184 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion all the time. So that's that's one 185 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: issue with this. And then also in the context of 186 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: how it's playing out in the courts, it is fascinating, 187 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: by the way, because I do think you're going to 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: have someone who was appointed for the exit, you know, 189 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: with the explicit promise of their skin color must be 190 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: a certain thing, their gender must be a certain thing, 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: and then it's likely the Supreme Court will soon thereafter, 192 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: by a six three or maybe a five four decisions 193 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: say you can't do that. That's actually that's actually unconstitutional. 194 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: Beyond that, though, how do you explain? I mean, I 195 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: went to a scholarship school here in New York City, 196 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Clay where everybody wanted a full ride in high school. 197 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: It's a unique place. Don't hate it because of Fauci everybody. 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: There's good things going on there, nonetheless, and because he's 199 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: an alumni, he whatever. And the reality of a student 200 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: body there was you had a lot of first generation immigrants. 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: And I just know because I had classmates who were 202 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: brilliant who were first generation TOMESE immigrants, first generation, we 203 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: had a lot of Korean immigrants. Why is it that 204 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: when they're applying to colleges, their parents speak no English, 205 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: they come here with nothing in their pockets. They're told 206 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: you get you get lesser treatment by the Harvard Admissions 207 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: Office than the son of the you know, ambassador of 208 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Botswana to the United States, who gets chauffeured to school 209 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: every day in a rolls Royce Like, how does that 210 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: that is the reality of the modern admission system because 211 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: that individual, again, assuming we were talking about somebody who's 212 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: who's black, that individual is given the equivalent of two 213 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: or three hundred points on the SAT the Asian applicant, 214 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Asian American applicant has about one hundred and fifty point reduction. 215 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: It's gross and we need to talk about this more 216 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: in the context of the UNC and Harvard decision that's 217 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: going to be before the Supreme Court. But again, the 218 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: element year that I think is so wildly worthy of 219 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: discussion is how much and I don't know how much 220 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: the left wing is even going to touch this, but 221 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: how much Joe Biden is delegitimizing his own selection by 222 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: already having said I'm only going to consider six percent 223 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: of the American population, when you say ninety four percent 224 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: of Americans. That's everyone who is not a black woman 225 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: is not eligible to be my nominee. How is it 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: buck that in any way this person, whoever they may be, 227 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: is going to be given a fair shake here, because 228 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: a huge percentage of the American population is going to 229 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: look at that selection and say, the only reason you 230 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: were picked is because you're a black woman, because Joe 231 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: Biden specifically said he would only pick a black woman. 232 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: That's why quotas are so so rejected under the constitutional 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: law because of all the delegitimizing factors associated with quotas. 234 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: And I got to say, John Roberts got this one 235 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: hundred percent right back in two thousand three or for 236 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: whatever it was when he said the way to stop 237 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: discriminating on race is to stop discriminating on the basis 238 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: of race. I think it was Aldo who had a 239 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: line about I don't think it was Scalia. But again, 240 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: correct McClay if I'm wrong on this one. That what 241 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about now is a racial entitlement states. The 242 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: leftist created a that was a line from one of 243 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court justices and a decision on this matter. 244 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: We have a racial entitlement state where some groups are 245 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: given elevation at the expense of other groups because of 246 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: what they historical oppression, or representation, or whatever the case 247 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: may be. That is flatly unconstitutional. Not only that, to 248 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: your point earlier, it also presumes that that person is 249 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: not able to have success on their own. It undercuts 250 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: the entire element of the meritocracy. And there are certainly 251 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: many people who proved that the meritocracy works of all 252 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: different races every single day. As I've said on this 253 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: show for a long time, the highest earning people in 254 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: America today are Asian men. If this were a fundamentally 255 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: white supremacist country, that would be impossible. Contending with paying 256 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: no easy matter. 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Several people that I talked to yesterday 276 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: ultimately told me that yesterday was not the day for 277 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: this announcement. Justice Farer was not planning it, and his 278 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: emotions were described to me a lot of different ways. 279 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: There was some consternation, but there were more surprised, I'm 280 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: told from a lot of people that listen. He made 281 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: this decision firmly some time ago. There was no change 282 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: or pressure, he said, on him, but he had decided 283 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: this was the right time for him, at the age 284 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: of eighty three, after decades on the bench, to step down. 285 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: But he was not ready for the announcement yesterday, although 286 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: we were told it is imminent, and he was, I'm 287 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: told by one person blindsided by what happened yesterday, blindsided 288 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: by the Libs welcome back the Clay and Buck show. 289 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: They let it out. Usually a Supreme Court justice has 290 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: the ability to make his own decisions about when he 291 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: or she says that they're going to retire, but not 292 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: in this instance. Not in this case. You know, Clay, 293 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think there's going to be 294 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: a big fight over this. We talked about that, but 295 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: yesterday I don't see how there will be a big 296 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: fight over it, as long as the person is, you know, 297 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: basically qualified, as long as we don't have, honestly a 298 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: Harry at Meyer situation, which you know, that was a 299 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: bush that was a bush thing. Everybody um, that was 300 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: not good. That was not a good moment for that administration, 301 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: among some that were pretty challenging. This was interesting, though 302 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: Fox's own Haraldo yesterday to go into the theory, Clay, 303 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: that you've brought up about the big Kamala switch of roles. 304 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: I thought that Kamala Harris would be a great idea. 305 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Is the first name that jumped into my mind. She 306 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: could be a terrific Supreme Court justice, and an appointment 307 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: for life. Is only in her fifties, she'd be there 308 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: for thirty years. I think she'd be a trip. It's 309 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: a it's a role fit for her. Clay, can I 310 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: just can we just put aside whether we think I mean, obviously, 311 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't think she's meant for the Supreme Court in 312 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: terms of her abilities as a jurist. I doubt you do. 313 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: I won't speak for you. The politics of that, though, 314 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I think, are much more fraught than it may see 315 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: him at first. You're gonna bail on the first female 316 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: African American Vice president to make her Supreme Court justice. 317 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. She has to ask for it, right, 318 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and there's no suggestion. I mean, she was 319 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: the Attorney General of California, but there's no suggestion that 320 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: she has aspired for her entire life to sit on 321 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court bench. If she did ask for it, 322 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: and she made it clear that it was her choice, 323 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: I think that that would be a decent choice for 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden because it would solve one of the issues 325 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: he has right now, which is she is a drag 326 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: on his overall administration, particularly if he's planning to run again. 327 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Whether or not that is, we don't really know for sure. 328 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't think we'll know till after the midterms. But 329 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: she'd have to ask for it, and I don't think 330 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: she's going to ask for it. I also think she 331 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: wants to have that if she's not going to be 332 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: president post VP one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a speech, 333 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: five million dollar advance for a book nobody reads about 334 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: her times VP she wants. I know the Supreme Court 335 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: different ethical considerations, but anyway, come back into the flights 336 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: across the country with illegal migrants in a few moments here. 337 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: You know, you don't just vote in November or every 338 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: couple of years. 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From your cell phone, dial pound 348 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: two fifty and say pure Talk, you'll save an additional 349 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: fifty percent off your first month. Again, that's dial pound 350 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: two five zero. Say pure Talk you can save up 351 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: the fifty percent off your first month. Support a great 352 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: American veteran operated company that's not going to give dollars 353 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: to the left. Just agenda, Welcome back in Clay Travis 354 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: buck Sexton, show go a lot going on, spree. Court 355 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna be filled now that Justice Bryer is appearing here 356 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: momentarily in the White House. But yesterday there was also 357 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: a discussion about the way that illegal immigrants are being 358 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: resettled and repatriated in some ways in the United States, 359 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: and Jensaki was asked about that. We're about to talk 360 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: with Miranda Divine, who had a fantastic article about that 361 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: in the New York Post. But first here was Jen 362 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Saki being asked by Peter Doocey about that yesterday. Why 363 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: is the administration's lying thousands of migrants from the border 364 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: to Florida any you're in the middle of the night. Well, 365 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it's in the middle of the night, 366 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: but let me tell you what's happening here. It is 367 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: our nine Well, very early in the morning. Here we 368 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: are talking about early flights, earlier than you might like 369 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: to take a flight. It is our legal responsibility to 370 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: save care for unaccompanied children until they swiftly can be 371 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: swiftly unified with a parent or a vetted sponsor, and 372 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: that's something we take seriously. We have a more right 373 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: obligation to do that. Deliver on that. That was actually 374 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: from October, and they tried to cash it as this 375 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: is just people being reconnected with their families. Well, Miranda, 376 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: you've had some video, you wrote an article. What is 377 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: actually going on? What should people know about the Biden 378 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: administration and what they're doing with these illegal immigrants? High 379 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: clan Buck, thanks for having me on last October. That 380 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: was our story the New York Post. We went out 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: to White Plane's airport. We've got a chip off saying 382 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: that there were these secret flights coming in at two 383 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: three in the morning, and that they were disgorging a 384 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: whole bunch of illegal migrants who were then being bussed 385 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: around the Tristate area. So we followed a few of 386 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: those buses. We watched some of these migrants being dumped 387 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: at a rest stop at the New Jersey Turnpike, and 388 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: then cars would come up and so called sponsors or 389 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: so called family members would pick up these so called children. 390 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: We don't have their birth certificate, but looking at them, 391 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: a big proportion of them, to my eyes and to 392 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: my photographer's eyes, looked like adult males. The others maybe 393 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, sixteen nineteen year olds. So the federal government 394 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: is basically orchestrating under the nose of the American public, 395 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: this mass movement, this mass transportation of illegal migrants from 396 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: the southern border as fast as they can into unsuspected 397 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: communities all over the country. It's not just New York, 398 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: it's California, it's Louisiana. We've got we've traced on flight 399 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: radar twenty four a number of charter flights is same aircraft, 400 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: the same four or five charter companies that are making 401 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars from the taxpayer for doing 402 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: this secret business. And what we have, the new material 403 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: that I have in my column today is a bodycam footage, 404 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: about an hour of it from a Westchester County cop 405 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: who was doing his job last August when these flights 406 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: first started coming into Westchester. He went out there. He 407 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: knew that the airport is supposed to be closed and 408 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: under curfew from midnight, and he wanted to know why 409 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: there was a plane at Blowing seventy three seven had landed, 410 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: what all this activity was on the tarmac. He went 411 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: out there and was completely astonished at what he found. 412 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: And he was told by a dozen federal contractors who 413 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: were there with one hundred and forty two migrants, illegal 414 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: migrants that they'd brought in, that they weren't allowed to 415 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: show their ideas to him. He asked for their IDs, 416 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: and he said to them, well, I can stop you 417 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: leaving this airport. You know, I'm supposed to be in 418 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: charge of security on this airport and the TSA had 419 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: certain rules about how many people are allowed onto the tarmac, 420 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: and you're breaking them all. This goes against all our 421 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: security rules. He got them to show him their ideas 422 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: and they told him where they were from. There were 423 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: bus drivers there. They had all been sitting around waiting 424 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: for about six hours. Because this is such a shambolic 425 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: operation that they didn't even call the bus drivers until 426 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: over an hour after the plane had arrived at Westchester. 427 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: This is going on every night, and it was only 428 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: after our story in October ran that they stopped most 429 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: of those flights coming into Westchester, I'm told, and it's 430 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: only because Rob Astino, who's the former Westchester County exact 431 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: and a candidate for the governorship in New York. He's 432 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: one of the only Republicans who cares about this. He 433 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: got this footage, this bodycam footage from this Westchester cop 434 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: under freedom of the information, and he's provided it to me, 435 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: and it is really damning. If you watch the entire video, 436 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: you can see how the federal government is doing this 437 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: in secrecy. They have federal contractors who have been sworn 438 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: to secrecy. They have contractors in the bus companies who 439 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: aren't even told their destinations until they're behind the wheel 440 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: and ready to go. It is an absolute scandal, and 441 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: it's disgraceful that the Republican Party isn't screaming blue murder 442 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: about what the Democrats are doing. Well, Miranda, we're trying 443 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: to get the word out. We appreciate you bringing all 444 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: this expertise in background of the conversation. We're speaking to 445 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine. She's the author of Laptop From How I 446 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: come from a CIA background, Miranda, So I have some 447 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: idea of how the government secret world works. And when 448 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm reading all this and I see you're reporting on 449 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: it and all of this what looks almost like cloak 450 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: and dagger stuff. Oh, we won't show the ideas, and 451 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: we're not told people are involved in this, aren't told 452 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: where they're even going. What possible justification does the government 453 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: have for this? I mean, this isn't the way you know, 454 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: this isn't the way that government operations and a whole 455 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: range of other areas are conducted. So why aren't they 456 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: saying why aren't they telling people, Oh it's great, we're 457 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: doing these fantastic migrant flights. I mean, what's the justification 458 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: for the secrecy? Do we have any idea about that? Well, 459 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting you asked that question, because that is the 460 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: exact question that this valiant Westchester County police officer asked 461 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: the federal contractors. And it's all recorded on his bodycam 462 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: video and he says, you know, why do you know 463 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: why the secrecy? What's the big secret? And the federal 464 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: contractor who's from this company called MBM Inc. Which used 465 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: to quite a controversial company, which used to work for 466 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: the federal government in Iraq, used to work for the 467 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: CIA in Iraq. Now they're working for the federal government. 468 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: They just signed a one hundred and thirty six million 469 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: dollar contract to transport illegal aliens around the country from 470 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: the southern border. This federal contractor from MBM replies to 471 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: the cop who is asking why the secrecy. He says, 472 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: you know why. Look who's in office, that's why. Come on, 473 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: And then he continues, you know why because if this 474 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: gets out, the government is betraying the American people. Everyone 475 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: involved in this clandestine operation knows that the reason for 476 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: the secrecy is because Americans don't want this. They don't 477 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: want their borders to be erased. No sovereign country can 478 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: have its borders rased. Do you have Joe Biden and 479 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and Anthony B. Lincoln all jumping up and 480 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: down about Ukraine's border, the sea, the sacracanct, Ukraine's sovereignty, 481 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: and they're sending American soldiers over to Europe to protect 482 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: Ukrainian sovereignty, Ukrainians borders, while at the same time they 483 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: are actually facilitating the invasion across America's border. That is 484 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: not hyperbole to say that that is exactly what is happening, 485 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: and that is why they are keeping it secret from 486 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: the American people, because of course, nobody wants their country 487 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: to be invaded by illegal migrants. You're talking about last 488 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: year two million illegal migrants that the government is admitting 489 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: came across the border. If it doesn't accelerate, which I'm 490 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: sure it will, you're talking about eight million by the 491 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: time Joe Biden's out of office. Minimum That is another 492 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: New York City, that is four Chicagos. That is something 493 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: that does irrevocable harm to the country, and it is 494 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: something that is aided and abetted by, it has to 495 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: be said, Republican donors who want cheap labor. Maybe that 496 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: is why the Republican Party is so silent on this matter, 497 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: and only a few of our elected representatives on the 498 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Republican Party are actually speaking up about this, including rob Astino, 499 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: who I have to say, you have to give him 500 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: credit for getting this information and staying on it doggedly. Miranda, 501 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: fantastic stuff. As always, Laptop from Hell is the book, 502 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: and people can read your work at the New York Post. 503 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: We will share this article from the Clay and Buck 504 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Twitter account as well. 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We've got a lot going on today. 528 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Ukraine and are people really 529 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: pushing for US military intervention in the event of a 530 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Russian invasion. Our friend Rahinkasam from the National Pulse will 531 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: be with us in the third hour of the program. 532 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: We also have my friend Jenna Diabela, who just wants 533 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: to fight for the kids all across America to be 534 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: able to live normal lives, normal lives in school. I 535 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: would just note right now you have two senior citizens 536 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: on the screen of the news channels across America, Biden 537 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and Brier. They're talking to the country at this point 538 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: in time. And note that Brier, of course has an 539 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: N ninety five mask on, because that's now, you know, 540 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: that's the new cool thing. Gotta have the N ninety five. Biden, 541 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: of course has no mask on. And what does this 542 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: mean does the virus? Say, hold on a second. You 543 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: know it's important, the president's important, and he's speaking, so 544 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: we're not Look, no one should have to wear masks 545 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: inside the Oval office. Nope, quadruple vaccinated or triple vaccinated. 546 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: A person should feel like they have to wear masks 547 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: because we've done it. We've done all that. I don't 548 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: even care when people want to argue about what works, 549 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't work. We've done it. And we're also seeing 550 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: the downsides. And you know, this was from something we'll 551 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: talk about tomorrow is a piece in the Atlantic that 552 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: Clay has pointed out. We'll have one of the authors 553 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: from the case against masks in school. There's real downsides 554 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: to all this. We've been warning you about this for 555 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: a while. A lot of you know this already from 556 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: your own children their experiences. This is from a WPBFTV 557 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: news report in early November. People are paying more attention 558 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: to this now, mask mask causing and over three hundred 559 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: percent increase, the speech therapist says in speech delays among 560 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: very young children. We've seen a three hundred and sixty 561 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: four percent increase in patient referrals of babies and toddlers 562 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: from pediatricians and parents, and they are children that are 563 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: having a difficult time speaking, speech delayed. Baby start learning 564 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: how to speak by reading lips as young as eight months. 565 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: So what happens when lips and faces are covered up 566 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: by masks? All therapists say, for some kids they can 567 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: work around the mask and still learn to speak perfectly fine, 568 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: but for others it can cause speech delays. There's no 569 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: research out there yet to say that this could be 570 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: causing speech and language delays, but most definitely it's I'm 571 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: sure a factor. We're seeing a lot of things that 572 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: look just like autism, Clay, there are there are reports 573 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: like this now all over the country. First of all, 574 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: we know for a fact that remote learning causes enormous 575 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: learning laws, particularly among children from you know, financially underprivileged 576 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: minority minority children from financially low income backgrounds. Okay, now 577 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: we're trying to specialize. This is near and dear to 578 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: my heart because not only don't want to help kids obviously, 579 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: but I had a speech impediment as a kid. This 580 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: is horrible what they're doing to kids. For what it is, 581 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: Buck and I was reading this morning, Flint Mission is 582 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: basically going to go to remote learning indefinitely. Eighty percent 583 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: of the kids in Flint, Michigan are minority, and no 584 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: one is standing up for them. And I'll just say 585 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: right now, I mentioned this yesterday in Tennessee. If there 586 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: are high levels of COVID infection among the teaching staff, 587 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: they allow schools to take a couple of days to 588 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: go remote. So my kids are on remote learning for Wednesday, Thursday, 589 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: and Friday of this week. And the amount of work 590 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: that is required for a parent, I'm at home for 591 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: a parent to get a kid on, even if you 592 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: have really good WiFi in your house, even if you 593 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: have a reliable laptop that they can use, and then 594 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: you sit and just watch it, as I know many 595 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: parents have. They're doing their best, and the idea that 596 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: you could even call it remote learning is to me 597 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: a fundamental repudiation of what's going on. And I've been 598 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: saying this since they shut down schools in March of 599 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and then didn't follow the American out of 600 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: me A pediatrics recommendations to come back in August and 601 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: September of twenty A lot of kids were remote for 602 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: most of that year. That this was and will be 603 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: the biggest lasting impact in the generations ahead is the 604 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: kids than what we have done to their education and 605 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: how much we've cost them and Buck. The kids that 606 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: are going to bear the brunt of that cost are 607 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly public school kids of poor backgrounds, who don't have 608 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: reliable Wi Fi at home, who don't have parents to 609 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: get them on Wi Fi. I mean, for a while there, 610 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what the latest numbers are. There were 611 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: a million kids that were enrolled in school in March 612 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Buck that just disappeared. They didn't come 613 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: back when they had another year of remote schooling. They 614 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: weren't able to track them down. And we know what 615 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: the significance is for kids who are unable to graduate 616 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: from high school their entire lives, They're going to have 617 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: much lower overall success rates. And we did this volvoluntarily 618 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: to our kids. It's the biggest American public policy failure 619 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: sense Vietnam. I don't think there's any doubt school is 620 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: obviously more and all the educators I know there are 621 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of teachers who are listening to us right now, 622 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that a lot of fantastic teachers listening 623 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: to us right now, and they all know it's more 624 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: than just a lesson plan on a screen. I mean, 625 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: there's a reason why you could right now go and 626 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: have There's all kinds you know, with Khan Academy and 627 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: these different and these online learning tools are great, by 628 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: the way, if used as a supplement or used in 629 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: a certain way for people who already, for example, have 630 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: had substantial education, it can be great to further your education. 631 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the democratization of educational information 632 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: out there. But there's a reason why people still want 633 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: to go to high school, still want to go to 634 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: four year universities. I mean, you know, not everyone does, 635 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: but people do choose to do this because it's about connection, 636 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: it's about socialization, it is about the actual human interaction 637 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: the learning process. It is different over a screen. We 638 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: all know that. I also think, just Clay, this is 639 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: a reminder the one you know, Nancy Pelosi when she 640 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: announced you know why, she said she's running Did you 641 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: see this? I wanted to play this on the show. 642 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get this for later, you know act she 643 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: said she's running for Congress again. I'm not kidding for 644 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: the children, That is her answer. Democrats love to say 645 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: they care so much about kids, when it comes to 646 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: this pandemic. The Democrats have done more to harm children, 647 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: to mandate child abuse than at any time I would 648 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: have thought possible in my lifetime. And the kids who 649 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: are most suffering are the youngest. To your point, Buck, 650 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: when you think about the impact of not being in 651 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: kindergarten and not being in first grade, that's different than 652 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: not being a junior or senior in school when you 653 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: can do a lot of the reading and studying on 654 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: your own. Acclimatization, the culturalization of what school represents for 655 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: those young kids, we've lost it. I don't think it's 656 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: a surprise that the speech issues are up three hundred percent. 657 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: We want to talk about maybe Rhonda Santists throwing some 658 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: roundhouse kicks at the propaganda from the right house fly kick, 659 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: maybe flying elbow, want to get into it, Let's do it. 660 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: Come right back. You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck 661 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: Sexton on the EIB Network.