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Thirty 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: minutes from now, we're gonna have Sean King. We're gonna 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: be down with the King, former NFL quarterback Fox Sports 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Radio NFL analysts. We'll talk to him about some of 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: the NFL headlines and some college football action that will 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: be happening over the weekend. 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: Looking forward to that as well. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of big time conversations again, some 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: NFL things that have happened over the last few days 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: to get to here before we jump back back to 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Jerry and of course what's happened with Micah Parsons. And 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: we've gotten some more revelations Martin. This with the trade 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: that has happened more conversation. We talked about the last hour, 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: about the fact that this was a unanimous decision, and 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: so if you have missed last hour, go check it 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: out on the podcast and don't forget. We're excited to 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. It's right, 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: we got the Odd Couple and then we have our 29 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. All you have to do is search 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash at odd Couple FSR. If you're 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: already in YouTube, just search ourt Couple FSR. 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Your body's not cooperating 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: on those days. 42 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: Luckily, there's a lead. 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: With just one pill of lead provides up to twelve 44 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: hours of pain relief, so you can keep moving. Please 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: use as directed, all right, Martin. So we've been chatting 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: about all different aspects of this trade. One of the 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: things that we talked about some yesterday is David I 48 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: call him moulac Getta because that's what he've been doing. 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: But David Mullaghetta and just his roll in this. And 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: we've heard Jerry say. We just had Nick Harris last hour, 51 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: who's connected of course with the Cowboys. He talked about 52 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: it and maybe there was some missing I don't want 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: to call it misinterpretations, some backdoor dealing between Jerry and 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: Micah that we know can't happen. By the way, duh 55 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: with the CBA, we know that's something you can't do. 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: And Jerry Sperry familiar with. 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: That, do you know, Kelvin. 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 5: I got a call yesterday from Brian Donaldson, who's both 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: known the NFL. 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's not true. Per him. 61 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: He says, there's nothing in the CBA that says an 62 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 5: agent has to be involved in these negotiations. Now, if 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 5: a player has an agent, that agent must be certified 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 5: by the NFLPA. 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: But he called me yest night and sent me straight. 66 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: He said there's nothing in the CBN that says an 67 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 5: agent has to be involved with the negotiations. 68 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: Now, a player has the right to have an agent. 69 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: But let me let me Yeah, that makes it, And 70 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: I'm obviously Brian's our guy and I trust him on that. 71 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: But I will add this though, if you sign with 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: an agent, if you're MIC in this case, which clearly 73 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: they know his agent because they've had to do dealings 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: before you, he can't do a deal without his agent 75 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: because he is signed with his agent. 76 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: Agree. 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: So I just wanted to make it clear like he 78 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 5: actually was the point of clarification, like they should. Really 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: the NFLPA needs to really figure this out in the 80 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: next CBA, because you wouldn't have this conversation otherwise. 81 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Right, No, that's a fair point. Shout out to Brian Downson, 82 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: our guy. Both of us know him. But I will 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: stand on the point that you knew you had to 84 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: do a deal with the guy, especially a big time agent. 85 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Right let's back of a small up and comer. Okay, whatever, 86 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: you know who this guy is and what he's about. 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: So the idea that we're gonna just sign something on 88 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: an act and dap each other up and act like 89 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna move forward. 90 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: You know that wouldn't happen. 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: So but you you believe that maybe Jerry's telling truth 92 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: that hey, Mike and our great relationship. We had Nick 93 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Harris who came on and said that Michael was one 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: of the only three guys ever to have the direct 95 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: line to Jerry and that maybe we look at it, 96 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: gotten away and screwed this up. 97 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: So this is my this because this is what I 98 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: just had to think about this Jerry. 99 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: I watched all forty six minutes of Jerry Jones' press 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: availability yesterday after we got off. 101 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: Of the year, and I was I know, it's very 102 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: popular today to be like Jerry Blewett. 103 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 5: And if we're gonna talk about what Jerry could have 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: had did last year and the year before, and that's 105 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: where we're gonna have the conversation, then I agree. But 106 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: if we're gonna talk about to yesterday and right now, 107 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 5: it did Jerry Jones did not have to me a 108 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: lick of like any type of animosity towards Michael Parsons 109 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 5: had several opportunities. He only took what I took it 110 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 5: as like one veiled kind of shot at what could 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: have been condemed the deem does a shot at Michael 112 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 5: when he said about hopefully if we play the package, 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 5: we'll get a lead and run the ball right, because 114 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 5: but that was it, And he said a million different 115 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: times in that presser, I offered Michael Parsons a contract 116 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 5: which had the most guaranteed money for a defensive player 117 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 5: in NFL history. And I get that Jerry does a 118 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: lot of bluster. Jerry does a lot of this and that. 119 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: But if in fact that handshake deal, right, which we 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 5: both agree, is far from locked in. Right, it's far 121 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: from locked in, but they had it all went out 122 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 5: at that conversation. If Jerry goes to Micah and that conversation, 123 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 5: MIKEL appreciate your patience and waiting to get this deal done. 124 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: We want to make you the highest We're going to 125 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: give you the most. 126 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: Guaranteed money of any defensive player in NFL history. We see, 127 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 5: we got the quarterback, you see we got the receiver. 128 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 5: To me, making a move like that says we want 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: you to be a part of our team. Michael Parsons, 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: who at every point prior to that August first trade demand, 131 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: said I am a cowboy for life. I am a 132 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 5: cowboy lifer giving up with we would have deemed to 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 5: be like the leveraging negotiation. 134 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: Right. He never once played at Koy. 135 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 5: That's Dak Prescott was the one who played at Koy 136 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 5: a bunch of times. He said, I don't listen to 137 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: Jerry Jones. I don't do this and that. Yesterday, for context, 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: Jerry was asked, do you how do you feel about 139 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: moving forward with big contracts? 140 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: You know, do you feel like there's gonna be an issue? 141 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: He said, Ask Dak how it goes, because, to the credit, 142 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: we never saw any near the animosity with Dak in 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 5: his situation as we did with Jerry and Micah in 144 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: this situation. Every step of the way, Jerry said, the 145 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: agent got in the way. Michael Parsons up until Monday, 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 5: or up until August first explicitly said he wanted to 147 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 5: be a cowboy. Jerry Jones offered him a contract. If 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: you believe what Jerry said in his press conference. I 149 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 5: don't know why you would lie. There's plenty of reasons 150 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: why he would lie, but like I feel like it's 151 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 5: too easily refutable to just flatly lie. And if I'm wrong, 152 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 5: then the journalists who are covering this on a day 153 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: to day basis, should probably figure that out and out it. 154 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: But if Jerry wanted to offer Michael the most guaranteed 155 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: money the defensive player has ever gotten in the NFL, right, 156 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 5: and apparently Rob he was telling me was reported at 157 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: forty then again at forty five, which would have topped 158 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 5: all the deals currently at the times that they were offered. 159 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: It feels like Micah got this deal from Jerry said 160 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: this sounds good, went back to David Mulagetta, who is like, hey, no, no, no, bro, 161 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: We're gonna blow the top off of this thing. And 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: then Jerry said, oh, why was the agent trying to 163 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: get this headline when I'm trying to build a team, 164 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: And I get that. Just to me, it seems like this, 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: you have an agent. I don't have an agent, but 166 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 5: I have an understanding of how agents work. I believe 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 5: you have an agent. I don't mean to talk out 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 5: of turn, but that agent works for you, and it's 169 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: supposed to represent what you want. He will give you advice, 170 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: but if you want to stay where you're at, that 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: agent is supposed to negotiate the best that you can 172 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: get for where you're at. If you want to leave, 173 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 5: then he's supposed to negotiate the best that you can 174 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: get for you to leave. If Michael Parsons' goal was 175 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: to have the most money possible, then this is a win. 176 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: If Michael Parson's goal, which it seemed to be from 177 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 5: everything he has said up until August first, I want 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 5: to be a cowboy for life, seemed to be. I 179 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: wanted to be a cowboy for life, and so that's 180 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: why I find it fascinating. He's talking right now, and 181 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: I know I've been long winded, but I'll pin it 182 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: in this. He's talking right now, find I can't hear 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: what he's saying. Obviously, I'll go back and listen to 184 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 5: this whole thing. I would love to know what he 185 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: says about the Dallas Cowboys in this pressure because to me, 186 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: if it's anything but I'm a Green Bay packer now, 187 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 5: they made the investment in me, I'm not looking back. 188 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: If he says anything about how I wanted to end 189 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: my career in Dallas. I wanted to stay in Dallas. 190 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 5: I wanted to be a cowboy. I love the cowboys 191 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: growing up. Any of that reminiscing thing. If he's not 192 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: moved on like a true mercenary, then I feel like 193 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: we're looking at Tyreek Hill two point zero on a 194 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 5: lesser scale because the Cowboys didn't have the same success 195 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 5: as the Chiefs. You had a guy who was on 196 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame track, and Michael Parsoner is still 197 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: on a Hall of Fame track and Tyreek Hill is 198 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 5: still the same. But a guy who really liked where 199 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: he was at wanted to get paid more than the 200 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 5: team that he was at was willing to offer him 201 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 5: and looks back a few years later and. 202 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: Says, man, I kind of wish I was where I 203 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: was at, so you. 204 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Said a lot. Let's let me backtrack on a few things. 205 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: One if we have our first conversation meeting Jerry and 206 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: Mikah and they're talking about the contract, as we just 207 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: had Nick Harriens talking about and it's been out there 208 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: that we know. The first time they had this conversation 209 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: was in March at a game. They're kicking it, they're 210 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,119 Speaker 1: hanging out and blah blah, they're talking about the contract. 211 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: My goal and job as an is to say cool. 212 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: I understand y'all might have chopped it up and in 213 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: the contract came up and everything. I get that, but 214 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: it's March. It's early and I'm not ready to have 215 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: that deal. And yet I should have been involved in 216 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: that right. Also, I believe Michael wanted to. I believe 217 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: he said, we meant what he said, what he said, 218 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: I willing to take less money, blah blah blah. But 219 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: once in the process of negotiations, Martin, you talk about agents. 220 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: I know Kelvin Washington knows, let alone a professional one 221 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: of the best players in all the football that should know. Like, 222 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: there's a process that goes back, that happened, there's negotiations. 223 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: We want this, we want that. Okay, the money's right, 224 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: but we want another year. Oh we're not gonna give 225 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: you another year. Okay, the money's right, but we want 226 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: more of an incentives. So if he gets twelve fifteen sacks, 227 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: you give him an extra two milk. 228 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: You get what I mean. There's back and forth. 229 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: It's not as easy as just here's a dollar amount, 230 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: cool sign. There's a lot that goes into this. That 231 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: that's why money can get hired because of incentives or 232 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: that's why we have outs, little small clauses in the 233 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: contract where we can get out. Trust me, I've I've 234 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: had the been beneficiary of some of these things, it matters. 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: And so if in the process of us going through 236 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: the negotiations, and again, I don't mind being a bad 237 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: guy if I'm David mulah. 238 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: Getta, here's the issue. 239 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: If all of a sudden, the guy who wants to 240 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: be here in Micah, now Jerry Jones, starts taking personal shots, 241 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: start questioning you know all he's missing games, making it 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: like he's all injury prone, and makes him out to me, Oh, 243 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: we had this deal. 244 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't know why he's got to do that. That's 245 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: all about us. 246 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: And now you put me in weird positions with my 247 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: agent when you know how business goes, Jerry, why would 248 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: you now put me in this weird thing where I'm 249 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: going Again, it's the guy who is being advantageous for me, 250 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: who's helping me. 251 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: Now you're trying to make it where I might have 252 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: beep with him. 253 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: And then again now things start to get weird in 254 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: personal between Micah and Jerry. This is where again to me, 255 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: David Mullagetta says, all right, we might need to start 256 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: exploring some other options. So in the process of doing business, 257 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: things are gonna get tricky, Things are gonna get dicey, 258 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to get personal. And I think that's 259 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: where Micah started to want to kind of shut tapping out. 260 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: I wonder at what point, because we we as the 261 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: talking heads here on the radio, we remember things as 262 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 5: they get reported and may not be able to because 263 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 5: we're reacting to things as they're happening. You got to 264 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: slot things in a timeline. If that first meeting, like 265 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: Nick Harris said, was where it all went south because 266 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 5: he went back to the agent and the agent was 267 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 5: not pleased with everything that happened. Jerry went on that 268 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 5: podcast with Michael Irvin and said, Bulagat, can you say 269 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 5: that on the radio? Mulagat had said to stick it 270 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: up my Yeah, he's sticking up his ass like that 271 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: at no plate if Jerry I heard it as blufter 272 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 5: initially right, But if what if he's not. 273 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: What if it's let's say he really said it, What 274 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: does that matter? If so, that's my point. 275 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: If he really said it, If your agent went to 276 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 5: your boss and told you to shove something up his ass, 277 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: then like I can understand where the negotiations might fall 278 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 5: apart of it, Like I can understand where two interested 279 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 5: parties who were trying to get a deal done and 280 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 5: the middleman in between. 281 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: If he's I mean, and I haven't heard. 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 5: I heard Ryan Clark say that David Mulla get it 283 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: and said Jerry Jones said he said it to him right, So. 284 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take him. Let's take him 285 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: at his word, Martin. Let's take Jerry is worth. He 286 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: said that, you don't think at eighty two years old, 287 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: an oil tycoon, a man who was dealt with many 288 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: a big time deals with some violatile players and viol 289 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: Charles Haley was on the team, you know, and and 290 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: violtle guys and violatle agents over thirty plus years owned 291 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: the team that it ain't got real. We ain't said 292 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: some talking, some smack, but at the end of the day, 293 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: if business need to get done, business need to get done. 294 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: Let me also add to this, David Moulah get a 295 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: The reason why I say that is because what he 296 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: does is set. 297 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: The market for his clients. Go over this again. 298 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Love in twenty twenty four, negotiating for four year 299 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: deal two undred twenty million dollars after like eight games, 300 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: were like, hold on, wait he got that extension. 301 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: We're like, should is he deserve it yet what doesn't matter. 302 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: He got it Antwine will Winfield Junior big time deal, 303 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: which had him be the highest paid defensive back at 304 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: that time last year twenty twenty four when he signed. 305 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: We already know what de John Watson did. So my 306 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: point is, it seems like he knows what he's doing. 307 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: It seems like he isn't able to get guys the 308 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: big money, including Micah. And all I'm saying is if 309 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: he says he didn't say it, Jerry says he said it, 310 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: let's put it in the middle somewhere. Maybe he said, Jerry, no, 311 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: that's a terrible deal. He can shove it without the 312 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: a word or something. I didn't go there. Maybe he 313 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: didn't say that. Point is, dude, we're talking about millions 314 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and hundreds of millions of dollars and contracts and negotiations, 315 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and they can get tight, they can get contentions. 316 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: They can get ugly. 317 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: I think Jerry is mad enough to be able to 318 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: be like, all right, like that shouldn't be the thing 319 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: of all the things of forty years of dealings, that 320 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that's the thing that set him back. 321 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 5: Well, I have a rebuttal in response to that, Kelvin 322 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: and I'll tell you why I agree with the premise, 323 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 5: but maybe not the person. 324 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: We'll do that next. 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Go to expresspros dot com. 371 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: All right, Martin, you said you had a thought of 372 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: rebuttal to the conversation about David Mullagut of the agent 373 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: for Michael Parsons in this trade and Jerry Jones, and 374 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: the concept we were talking about was just maybe he 375 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: did get in the way, Maybe Micah and Jerry had 376 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: something and maybe the agent blew it. 377 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: I don't buy it, but you had a thought to 378 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: what I was saying. 379 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, my thought comes from a quote from Michael Parsons. 380 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: A quote from Michael Parsons December nineteenth to twenty twenty four. 381 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 5: I don't need forty million per year, Parsons said in 382 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 5: the locker room on Thursday. Understand that, you know, me, 383 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 5: Chauncey and Osha might have to separate. That's devastating, being 384 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: here for four years, building our relationships to where it's been, 385 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 5: it's devastating. 386 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: You can't help but root for all of them though. 387 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: You want to see everyone get paid and everyone get 388 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: the maximum of their value. 389 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: But you know, he goes. We've all been really locked in. 390 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 5: I've been trying to tell him where the sacks are, 391 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: where the one on one opportunities are, because I want 392 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: to see these guys have success and do things. 393 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: That's what brotherhood is. 394 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 5: And then we can vacations somewhere in the offseason after 395 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 5: they get paid. It's nice to be surrounded by good players, 396 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: players that are going to help you win championships. I 397 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: want to keep as many guys as possible. I want 398 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: to work with them as much as possible. Then he 399 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: goes on to say, I want to say that, you know, 400 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 5: having forty million dollars and being chipped every play and 401 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 5: hit with two three four people. I don't think that 402 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: sounds too fun to me. So for me, it's about 403 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 5: people that can keep making a difference. That was Michael 404 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: Parsion's December nineteenth, twenty twenty four. 405 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly when it was. 406 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 5: Probably the Cowboys had a couple more games after that, 407 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 5: but I know this, they were done playing by January 408 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 5: of twenty twenty five, and that was just eight months ago, 409 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 5: and so I don't understand what possibly could have changed here, 410 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: especially if Jerry was saying, listen, I'll give you the 411 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 5: most guaranteed money of any defensive player in NFL history, 412 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 5: because that seems to me like a deal that matches 413 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 5: every side of things when you just kind of just 414 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: talk about it in general, the most guaranteed money without 415 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: looking at the terms, or just if you just said 416 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 5: that was the tag on the chefter tweet you've been 417 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 5: I think as a Michael Parsons would have been good 418 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: with that at any point prior to that March meeting. 419 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: It seemed, or at least at least even after that 420 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: March meeting, according to Jerry Jones was good with it. 421 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: He just finished talking. 422 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what Michael Parsons had to 423 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 5: say about the money today and what he had to 424 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 5: say about Dallas today, because to me, this sounds like 425 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: a guy who wanted to be a cowboy, and for 426 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 5: whatever reason they couldn't get those negotiations done. But this 427 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 5: is a guy who wanted to be a cowboy, and 428 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: Jerry wanted to give him the most defensive money that 429 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: and most guaranteed money any defensive players got. 430 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: But the ire of Micah was on who Jerry and 431 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: also the cowboys, and so his disdain was for them 432 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: over the last few weeks a couple of weeks so 433 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: my thing would be clearly, I meaning, if this was 434 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: something he really felt like my uh, David Bill got 435 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: it messed up. We'd be sitting here and maybe, hey, 436 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: you and I have had a chance to hear it, 437 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: so maybe said it. Not to my knowledge, we didna say, hey, man, 438 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: I fired my agent. I got a new agent. 439 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: So that is something he didn't say. This is what 440 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: he did. 441 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: This is what I did here in between Robb g 442 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 5: annoying me about things over the week, and I was 443 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 5: trying to listen to some of this press conference because 444 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 5: you know, anyway, he did say he was asked if 445 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 5: he had talked to any of the cowboys since he 446 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: had left, and he said, I just talked to David. 447 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 5: So there was that was that was the only answer 448 00:20:59,240 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 5: to that question. 449 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's gang gang. They clicked up. 450 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm saying to me, this feels as 451 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: if michaeh, Yes, he might say some things kind of 452 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: giving us a little Wan solo vibe, like looking back 453 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: at my old boo talking about the cowboys in this case, 454 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: because I believe he wanted to be there. He said 455 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: it month a go. You just read some quotes we 456 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: heard him on his podcast. I don't think he ever 457 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: wanted to leave. I think he again one of the 458 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: three people that could call Jerry on his personal line. 459 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: That's why you know who hurts you most, the people 460 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: you're closest to. And I think that's why he was 461 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: so hurt and took things so personally because he felt 462 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: like this started to go awry, this started to go left. 463 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: Why isn't Jerry, you know, take. 464 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: Care of me. 465 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: He took care of Dak, took care of city, took 466 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: care of the guys when it comes to me, who 467 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: I again, he probably felt personally connected to why is 468 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: this not the case? And so I think that's why, 469 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: more than the David Mullagetta end of it. To me, 470 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: I just think somewhere along the line, the gambler gam 471 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: and maybe gamble with the emotions of Micah, and Micah 472 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: had had enough and I told Rob g and Rob 473 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: Parker that this could happen, that this could finally be 474 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: the one that got away. 475 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: And again maybe six months from now we're looking at it. 476 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: They're all happy there Evervon Packer's happy, Michael's happy, Jerry's happy, 477 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: the cowboys have. Everybody moves on, But as of right now. 478 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of like any relationship the ends. It's a 479 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: little rough, all right. 480 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: Sean King on the other side of trending right. 481 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Now, Mante Milanio is gonna hook you up on everything 482 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: that is popping in on the updates. 483 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: What's up, Monci. 484 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 485 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern, 486 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 487 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: It is The Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington. 488 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: We got Martin Weiss and for Rob on this funky 489 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: flashback Friday. Achy knee stiff back joints not cooperating. Some 490 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: days your body is just like nope. And all those days, 491 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: luckily there is a lead. With just one pill Lee 492 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: provides up to twelve hours of pain relief so you 493 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: can keep moving. Please use as directed. It is time. 494 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: Now we're joined by our guys, Sean King. We are 495 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: down with the King head. Talk to him in a 496 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: little bit. Former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts, 497 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: What up said, man? 498 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: How you doing? 499 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: Brother? 500 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 8: Football is back. I can switch channels watch different games. 501 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 8: What a time to be alive. 502 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: Feels good for sure, and hey put a button on 503 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: this for now. Obviously it's the biggest story in sports 504 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: right now. Just your initial reaction mikeah gets traded to 505 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the Packers just boom? 506 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 3: What was Sean thinking when he heard that? 507 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 8: We won't know who got the best of the trade 508 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 8: until down the line. I mean, getting two first round 509 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 8: picks is big. That means the Cowboys have four picks. 510 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 8: The money they didn't allocate the Parsons they can use 511 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 8: now to help supplement other areas on the roster, whether 512 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 8: it be retaining key components now or adding in free agency. 513 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 8: So I'm not completely down on it from the Dallas 514 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 8: side simply because if they give parts the money, I 515 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 8: still don't know anybody that thinks Dallas is a super 516 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 8: Bowl team this year. 517 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 518 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 5: I think that's kind of what it's kind of bothered 519 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: me about the national conversation, Sean. It's everybody's making fun 520 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: of jars are getting fleece in this trade. But I 521 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 5: also think if Jerry had signed Michael Parsons put five 522 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 5: million over any other defensive player that we've seen in 523 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 5: the NFL right now, everybody will be on TV saying 524 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: you got the highest pay quarterback by a mile, highest 525 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 5: paid defensive player by a mile, and you missed the 526 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 5: playoffs last year. And when you made the playoffs, to 527 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 5: Jerry's point, you could to stop the run against the Packers, 528 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: and in this group Packers and forty nine ers in 529 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 5: that stretch, I feel like Jerry's catching. 530 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: It from both sides in the way that's a little unfair. 531 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's the narrative on him what it 532 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 8: has been. I'm a guy that thinks press is productive, 533 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 8: but I don't think he's as impactful as he was 534 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 8: early in his career. I don't think he's a football 535 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 8: first guy. I think there are a lot of other 536 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 8: things in his life that are just as big a poverty. 537 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 8: So I'm not upset with j getting two ones and 538 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 8: a Pro Bowl defensive tackle at Kenny Clark. I mean, 539 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 8: long term for Dallas, this may end up being a 540 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 8: super blessing. On the Green Bay side, it still all 541 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 8: comes down to who and what is Jordan Love. I mean, 542 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 8: two years ago, Jordan Love looked like Aaron Parent, Aaron Rodgers. 543 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 8: He's ready to take the metal. Continue that lineage of 544 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 8: excellent quarterback play at Green Bay took a huge step 545 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 8: back last year, hesitant, you know, not really willing to 546 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 8: throw the ball with velocity down the field. So regardless 547 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 8: of what they do defensively, Jordan Love has to go 548 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 8: back to looking like the guy from two years ago. 549 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 8: So we'll see if it works out for them. But 550 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 8: it was a move they felt like they had to make. 551 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 8: We'll find out. I'm not with the national narrative that 552 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 8: this was a terrible decision by Jerry at on any front. 553 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: He is Sean King, former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio 554 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: NFL analysts. 555 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: All right, Sean, let's go to We have a got 556 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: do you know what. 557 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: We ain't talked about this in a couple of days 558 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: because of how big this has been, but I want 559 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: to go up to Cleveland. We've been having a conversation 560 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: about there with the quarterbacks. You've played the position, you 561 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: know it, you've coached it. How do you go into 562 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: that quarterback room and say how do you feel about it? 563 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 4: Now? 564 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: With Flaco one, we got Dylan Gabriels two, and then 565 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: should do at three? And if you're maybe a personal 566 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: coach to Shador, what are you coaching them up? 567 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: What are you saying? 568 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 8: Just be ready? You know, don't give an your feelings, 569 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 8: don't get emotional. A lot of times when things don't 570 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 8: go your way. As an athlete, how you handle it 571 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 8: determines how successful you are moving forward. I don't think 572 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 8: Cleveland mishandled the competition. We thought coming in that Joe 573 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 8: Flacco probably would be the starter. Kenny Pickett, whether inconsistency, 574 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 8: in practice or injury, didn't do enough for them to 575 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 8: say he's our future, so they traded him. Now you 576 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 8: got two young guys, and if we're being honest and 577 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 8: you take all the extras out of it and just 578 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 8: evaluate the tape, it's a pretty close competition between Gabriel 579 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 8: and should Do. In the preseason. Gabriel, he probably didn't 580 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 8: play as well, said do it the first time. He 581 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 8: played better than should Do. At the same time, he 582 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 8: was the highest draft pick. Whether you agree with it 583 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 8: or disagree with it. You know, RG three made a 584 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 8: post the other they talking about how it is unfair. 585 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 8: I had responded to him post, like they give Kirk 586 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 8: Cousins an equal opportunity to compete with you, weren't y'all 587 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 8: both drafted in the same draft, Like the guy who 588 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 8: gets drafted earlier. Regardless of the position generally gets the 589 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 8: benefit of the doubt, rep opportunities. All of that stuff 590 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 8: doesn't mean that long Talm should do. It won't be 591 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 8: the starting quarterback. It'll just be how he handles this. 592 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 5: Sean, I know you're all over football in general, especially 593 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: since your flipping channels today. They're not watching pros hit 594 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 5: each other. You're watching the kids hit each other. And 595 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 5: we'll see a highly anticipated kid playing kids, not college debut, 596 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: but it feels like it almost as an unquestioned starter, 597 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: with arch Manning the kid really making his college football. 598 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: They view Julian saying, on the other side. 599 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: Of the quarterback side for Ohio State and Texas, what 600 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: do you to see in the shoe on Saturday? 601 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 8: I am going with a completely blank campus. And I 602 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 8: think one of the biggest issues with the football narrative 603 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 8: on our big platforms is how in the hell could 604 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 8: or respect to the valuator to have arch Manning as 605 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 8: the number one pick in there Mott Draft next year. 606 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 8: I'm saying he won't not saying he won't play himself 607 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 8: into that position, but he hadn't played enough. Like I'm 608 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 8: really giving arch a fair shot. I'm looking at arts 609 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 8: the same way I'm looking at Julian saying I'm not 610 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 8: going to annoy him the Heisman winner. If they play well, 611 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 8: I'm not gonna say they're a bus if they don't. 612 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 8: It's the collective. It's all of the plays, all of 613 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 8: the games that determine the evaluation. Tough environment, I'm sure 614 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 8: the horseshoe will be rocking. Sayans under a lot of pressure. 615 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 8: Arch is under a lot of pressure. I think the 616 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 8: one thing I would like to stay in the forefront 617 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 8: of is Arch. Manning is not Eli or Payton in 618 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 8: any way shape, form of fashion. He's more like a Josh. 619 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 8: He's a bigger body, jumbo athlete. He can extend plays 620 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 8: with his legs. He can run for yardage, he can 621 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 8: throw the full out. He's a different talent than his 622 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 8: two uncles. So it's gonna be fascinating to watch him 623 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 8: pulling for the kid Ohio State, different oc different quarterback. 624 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 8: We'll see. I'm really taking a wait and see approach 625 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 8: on this game because I want to be fair to 626 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 8: both of them. 627 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Sean, I want to stay 628 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: in college football, but not so much the ex's and 629 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: o's on the field. 630 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. 631 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: You've got Dion Sanders, coach Prime, talking about he's come 632 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: up with an idea away for college football players and 633 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: college playoffs to help as far as getting the money, 634 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: but the way in which they do it. He was saying, 635 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: pay them more when their team wins. And if you 636 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: do that, he said, quote, that's gonna be a quality. 637 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Now it's even and every player is making the same 638 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: amount of money. He was talking about doing. How kind 639 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: of NFL does with the playoff style bonuses. You got 640 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Nick Saban talking about in ways they need to fix 641 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: this as well. Daniel and people are begging him to 642 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: be the commissioner. But do you think it's a broken 643 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: system right now? Nil transperportal? If you do, how do 644 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: you fix it? If you don't, then tell me why 645 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: you like it. 646 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 8: It's absolutely broken. But I don't want to hear it 647 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 8: from Don. I respect everything Don's done in the game 648 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 8: of football, but if you didn't say it when Shador 649 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 8: and Tavis Hunter was making all that money, don't say 650 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 8: it now that they're gone. I don't want to hear 651 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 8: from him. But it's an easy fix. First of all, 652 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 8: high school kids shouldn't be eligible for NIL at his core. 653 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 8: Nil means name image likeness. A high school recruit has 654 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 8: not done anything at the university yet, so they haven't 655 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 8: profited or benefited from his name image likeness at all. 656 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 8: So that's the first thing. Take it out off the 657 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 8: high school kids fragonally. If you transfer, you're not allowed 658 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 8: to get NIL at the school you go to. It's 659 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 8: very easy. I don't think you put a chap on it, 660 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 8: but force gods, force gods, okay, or teams that develop 661 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 8: and evaluate well, don't punish them because they don't have 662 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 8: as big a budget as some of their competitors. Everybody. 663 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 8: Everybody talks about everybody talks about arch Manning. You know, 664 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 8: they don't say about arch Manning. Arch Manning backed up 665 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 8: quinn Ewan for two years. The rect of these kids 666 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 8: that they get bent for one game they leave like, 667 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 8: it's a lot to be said about how arch and 668 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 8: his family have handled this situation. 669 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I completely get you on that, and I've been saying that. 670 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Rob Gi knows, I've said this. One of the things 671 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: that's been what I don't like about the transport, and 672 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: you know this and Mark everybody's had to push through 673 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: and persevere. Is where it gets tough, right, Like, if 674 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: it ain't great, you're gonna. 675 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: Have to just leave if it ain't going your way. 676 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: You know, that's sometimes in life. 677 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: You got to push through and you got to make 678 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: something happen, and that'll be part of your storyline for sure. 679 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: Uh Mar, you got. 680 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: Let me. 681 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 8: I also want to I also want the people that 682 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 8: are listening to understand they're all still on full scholarship. 683 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 8: So the amount of NIL is all just extra. It 684 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 8: doesn't They still don't pay for a thing. So all 685 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 8: these people in this country that are working their butt 686 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 8: off to have student loans that's still trying to pay back. 687 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 8: Now it's not applicable to any full scholarship athlete. So 688 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 8: I'm not against, you know, putting some kind of cap 689 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 8: on the conference or making it a salary cap for 690 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 8: the teams in that conference. So you got to make decisions. 691 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 8: But I just don't like the fact that and I'll 692 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 8: use two lane because that's why I went. I don't 693 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 8: like the fact that they can evaluate well out of 694 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 8: high school. Get a Darien Minza, bring him the two lane, 695 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 8: develop him, be able to give him seven hundred and 696 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 8: fifty thousand dollars a year in nil and Duke can 697 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 8: swoop in and give him two years eight million because 698 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 8: they had the same chance to saying come, I mean 699 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 8: for mensa coming out of high school. So like, I 700 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 8: just think that's the part of it that's unfair overall. 701 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: I actually really think that's oppression point. 702 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: Like South Alabama's quarterback from last year is not going 703 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 5: to starting the ACC. I think they'd rather have him 704 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 5: than you know what I mean, Like that's who they 705 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: that's the reason why they went and drafted or up 706 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 5: drafted him, but recruited him and got him and now 707 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: he's gonna be starting. 708 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: For Bill Belichick. Joe Opus. 709 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 5: I think that's a really good point, Sean, and speak 710 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: up for the little guy every so often, like the 711 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: two lanes and and and so on. So I respected 712 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 5: a ton shot. 713 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 8: They still they're still on full scholarship. That's why I 714 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 8: think if you put in the portal, if you transfer, 715 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 8: you're not eligible for n I L. It'll cut down 716 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 8: some of this unnecessary movement. 717 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, hey, Sean man, that's a great idea. Brother, 718 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they're listening. We appreciate you, Sean King. We'll do 719 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: it again, and. 720 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 8: Football's back, all right, guys, enjoy yourself. 721 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: No doubt real Sean Kig on the Socials, make sure 722 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: you give him a follow. 723 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 7: There. 724 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: We we were just talking a little bit about Shador. 725 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: How did we get to where we got to with Shador? 726 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: And now the right decision has been made? 727 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: Were we duked? Martin? 728 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: And I will tell you it is the odd couple 729 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: On a free, f funky flashback Friday. 730 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 731 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 732 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 733 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 734 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: listen live. 735 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Fox Sports Radio. I'm Kevin Washington, He's Martin Wiss. 736 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: We are the odd couple. He's in for Rob on 737 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: this funky Flashback Friday. With iHeartRadio app, you can stream 738 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: us wherever you happen to be. 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So ken Ward, number one pick Tennessee Tights quarterback, 749 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: obviously has a good relationship with Shador. They trained throughout 750 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the summer and out. Here's something he had to say 751 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: recently about he and should I. 752 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 4: Don't have a rivalry rhythm. That's my boy. 753 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 9: So at the end of the day, this whole process, 754 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 9: we thought me and him were gonna be one to 755 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 9: two the whole time, whether he's one, two worn one 756 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 9: he's two. So that's just always been, you know, our mindset. 757 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: It didn't go that way. I thought he's one of. 758 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 9: The better quarterbacks in the draft as well, even throughout college. 759 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 9: A lot of stuff out there all him ain't really 760 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 9: you know the truth, just because they spend it different ways, 761 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 9: like they spend stuff about me different ways. But I 762 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 9: mean when when he gets his chance become a starter, 763 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 9: I know he's gonna make the most of it. And 764 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 9: all ready to get back to work with him, you 765 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 9: know after the season, you know, talk some more stuff 766 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 9: to him, you know, say some crazy stuff. 767 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 4: I mean, we just go keep on pushing each other. 768 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: Because you know, Calvin, you remember watching cam warden should 769 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 5: Door working out like summers were summers prior to this, 770 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: and there was like an element of trash talk and 771 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 5: all this, but I kind of a healthy respect type 772 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: of thing. I just wonder, Calvin, is cam Ward the 773 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 5: only person who remembers this time a year ago. 774 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: Because it seems like the idea that. 775 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 5: People are upset that people are covering Shador Sanders and 776 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 5: and like as Vihetma Lely as they are right now 777 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 5: is laughable to me because consensus he was a top two, 778 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 5: top five quarterback in the class. The idea that he 779 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: was a fifth round pick is absolutely news. For a 780 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 5: long time, and I mean a long time, like up 781 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 5: into the draft, they were debating is cam Moore better 782 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 5: than Shador Sanders? 783 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: Like is it right? 784 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 5: There is like kind of there were one and two 785 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 5: neck and neck the entirety of the time until draft day. 786 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: That is a story, all right. I went to Jay 787 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: school just like you did. 788 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 5: You know, it's not a story when a dog bites 789 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 5: a man, when a man bites a dog. 790 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: That's a story because something everybody was wrong. 791 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 5: And so yeah, that's exactly why everybody is locked into 792 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 5: whether or not should your dance. Shador Sanders is going 793 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 5: to actually get an opportunity to play because everybody wants 794 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 5: to know just who was wrong? Was it all the 795 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 5: mock drafters who, to Shaun King's point, have arch manning 796 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 5: atop the thing right now? We'll touch on that at 797 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 5: the bottom of the next hour, But like, is it 798 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 5: the mock drafters? 799 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: Is it the NFL? 800 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 801 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: Kelvin. 802 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 5: You will you do the morning news if the weather 803 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 5: man says it's gonna be eighty five degrees in sunny 804 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,479 Speaker 5: and it's a tornado in southern California, whose fault is it? 805 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: Is it God who made the weather? It's the weather man. Listen. 806 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: What you're not gonna do is make it like I'm 807 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: crazy and I'm not talking to you because I'm one 808 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: thousand percent with you, and Rob g knows this and 809 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: I would scream this at the Rob Parker we were 810 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: talking about there was a shot that they could have 811 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: two top ten picks in Travis Hunter baby in Colorado 812 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: and also Shadure And yes, Shaduor was not playing sec 813 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: talent every week, he wasn't playing Big ten talent every 814 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: single week. But that was the consensus that he would 815 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: be right up there, one of the first one to 816 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks taken, and all of a sudden, that switched up. 817 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: And that's why people were invested in the story, and 818 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: people had the right to be dumbfounded. And we have 819 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: had analysts, we've had scouts, We've had everyone say, well, 820 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: I ain't really feel right, and if all of a 821 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: sudden in a week or two because some bad interviews 822 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: allegedly that changes, that is absolutely worth being confused and 823 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: want and a half conversations about. So I have problems 824 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: all those drafts. 825 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: We're going to make this a big story moving forward.