1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. The amount of technology that's out there 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: really constitutes the need for the person doing the repair 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: to know what he's doing or what she is doing. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Please control yourself. We are not on the car Doctor. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: My son goes to school Wisconsin. I kind of insist 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: on his zero twenty or something like that. When he's 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: out there with that. I will say this, extreme temperatures 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: push all kinds of cars, regardless of manufacturer, to the extreme. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion, not automotive repair. If 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage doors are open, but 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: and now he running. There's always new ways to use 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: technology to diagnose technology. We had a two thousand six 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Nissan Frontier Nismo, which is their fancy pickup truck UH 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: mid two thousand's two thousand six. It was come into 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: the shop with a low power complaint. Let me tell 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: you when this. When I say low power, this thing 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't pull a fact guy off a bicycle going backwards uphill. 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: It just it had no get up and go, and 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: it just sat there and it just became like, wow, 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: where is this? And I drove it and I said, 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: this car's got a clogged cat? How can I prove it? 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: How can I prove it quickly? A little bit of 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: history on it. I knew the customer had. I had 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: talked to the customer and in my pre diagnosis interview, 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: always an important part of it, right when you're trying 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: to do the research beforehand. He said that he had 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: a P zero four twenty cat efficiency code about six 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: seven months ago. Didn't really pay attention to it all. 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I can get away without it, you know, and uh 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: it kind of didn't work, and you know, here he 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: is now, and I just you know, that cat crumbled, 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: is what I said. But how do I prove it quickly? 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: On an older car with a hundred and fifty thousand 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: or so miles? You know? How do I get to 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: the root cause of that? Diagnosis? Technology? Launch makes a 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: launch Tech USA dot com makes a thermal imager. Thermal 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: image technology is not it's not something new. It's it's 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: not even new to auto repair. It's been around a 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: couple of years now, and there's a lot of cameras 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: on the market, and we've been we've been road testing 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: the launch Tech USA version of it for a while now, 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: and the one thing I like about it is it 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: gives you the ability to very precisely pinpoint within oh 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: an area the size of the head of a pin, 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: exact temperatures. And I sat there and I thought about 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: the tools in the arsenal in the shop, and I said, 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: I bet I can take the thermal imager, let the 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: car run and look at the heat difference or lack 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: of in the exhaust system. And I was right, uh 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: um uh. It was kind of neat right. The the 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: right side exhaust pipe started out at about four hundred 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: degrees neck down, neck down, neck down, nick down, and 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: by the time it got to the clogged part of 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: the cat it was a hundred degrees right on the 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: other side of the clock, whereas the other side of 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the exhaust system started out at five hundred degrees and 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: was participated slowly down and it got down about three 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: fifty by the time it joined the other cat at 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: the white pipe connection. We actually shot a video of it, 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get it up on Facebook. Sometime this week. 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: It's a two part interview or two part video because 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: we had some you know, I had to shut it off. 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Got the cat. I wanted you to see everything as 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: it happened, so I don't want to, you know, do 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: a time delay. So we'll we'll get that up on Facebook. 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: But it was really kind of neat the way thermal 71 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: imaging sat there and went banging. It was so called. 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: That cat was so called. I could lay my hand 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: on the right side cat and not feel any pain 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: at all, but the left side cat was really hot 75 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: to the touch obviously. So just you know, how fast 76 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and how well can you use technology? Sometimes you gotta 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: use it, and it's it's to your advantage if you 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: stop and you think about it. Approach every diagnosis with 79 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of research, and research is all part 80 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: of that. Here something to think about. Um, let's get 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: over the phones. The phones are crazy right now. Let's 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: go over to Robin, Delaware, seventy Mustang and some questions 83 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: about emissions. Rob, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir. How 84 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: can I help? Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call. 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: You're welcome. What's going on? Questions? I have I recently 86 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: restored a seventy Mustang says back, with a three oh 87 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: two two barrel carburetor. Basically um sent the block out, 88 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: had all the machine work done, overhauled the engine myself. 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: When I went through in missions in the state of 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Delaware on my hydrocarbons, my limit is nine hundred. My 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: readings were seventy five. On the CEOs my limits nine 92 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: and I went through at a point of point four. Okay. 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: My question is is I've got quite a few Mustang 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: fox bodies and oh seven, Mustang can't get those cars 95 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: that goes through emissions even getting close to those numbers, 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: even with cats, and you know all the emissions. The 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: seventy has nothing on it. And I'm wondering, when I 98 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: adjusted the carburetor, could I be a little lean? And 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: it does sound, it does sound a little to the 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: lean side. That's that's number one. You know, if you 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: were using if you were doing a five gas emissions test, 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: they would also give you air fuel ratio um or 103 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: you could you could look at lambda as a as 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: a as a calculation of fuel enrichment or lack of 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: and I would definitely, I would definitely fatten that up 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. But the question I think the question 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: you're also asking me is is why is the seventy 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Why does a seventy vehicle appear to be cleaner than 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: a two thousand seven? Right? Yeah? Um? And my my 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: first thought is is it are you doing a telpipe 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: test on that oh seven in Delaware? Um, on the 112 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: seventy of the seven seven? Yeah, they do the tailpipe. 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: They do tailpipe not O B D two Yes, tailpipe, tailpipe? Okay? 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: And what are your limits for? What your what are 115 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: your limits for an oh seven? They're like, all right, 116 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: and what are you going through at I'm going through 117 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: about one uh one fifty. It's a supercharged motor, which 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that has a whole lot to do 119 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: with it right now. I don't think so either not 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: not not as a they're doing an idol test, correct 121 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: or not? This isn't a loaded Dino test. This is 122 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: an idol test, you know. And I mean there's a 123 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: hundred questions here, Rob, you know, is the engine warmed 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: up or the cats working at peak efficiency? How many 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: miles are on the car, what sort of whil change 126 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: maintenances the car had? What sort of you know, fuel 127 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: system cleaning? Has that vehicle had. You got to remember 128 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: you're looking at a fresh motor in the seventy and 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: how many miles are on the oh seven? Um, I've 130 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: got about thirty two thousand. Okay, so it's a car 131 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: that's not driven a whole lot. So yeah, um you 132 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: ever do ever do a fuel system cleaning to it? Ever? 133 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Do you know a carbon cleaning? Have you ever done 134 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: a carbon cleaning to it? You know, fuel system maintenance? Um? No, 135 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Basically I just run additives to it to um, you know, 136 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: keep the gayest fresh like that. Okay, you may see 137 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: you might see a difference, and you know, there's a 138 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: I always tell everybody fuel additives are great. Fuel additives 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: are kind of like that that that that vitamin B 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: shot that we get every now and again. But they 141 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: don't replace a a formal cleaning, all right. There a 142 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: supplement there, and they're they're an additive, all right. So 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: if you were to go through and do a fuel 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: system cleaning from any one of the various kids that 145 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: are out there, um, you know, you might see a 146 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: difference in a way that vehicle runs. You might see 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: a difference in idle quality. Do you have a do 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: you have an O? Riley out of parts nearby someplace. 149 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: You can go down and look at the different fuel 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: system cleaners out of the marketplace today. They are actually 151 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: not in my area. We're basically more advanced. All now, 152 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: go see if you can find um go take a 153 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: look at the stuff from Berryman all right, or you 154 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: can find them online. We we matter of fact, we've 155 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: been using their kids in the shop quite a bit lately. 156 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: If you go at the Berriman Products dot com you'll 157 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: see what they've got, what they're talking about, and their 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: method of fuel system cleaning is really kind of painless, 159 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: and we've seen some very good positive results, and there's 160 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: a there's an annual maintenance that can be done by 161 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: the do it yourself for without a lot of pain, 162 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: and you'll see some differences in the way that vehicle 163 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: operates much less. You may also see differences in fuel 164 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: economy as well. So, uh, you know, I'm not saying 165 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with either Mustang. I just think 166 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: we're comparing a fresh motor to a third two thousand mile, 167 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: fourteen year old motor that's probably got some carbon deposit issues. 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I also think you've got that seventy 169 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: must thang running a little on the lean side, all right, 170 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: because keep it, Yeah, I've fatten up a little bit, 171 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: because keep in mind you're looking at numbers on the 172 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: O seven after the cat. All right, that cat's work, 173 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: and that cat's doing its job. It's probably a little 174 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: tired to a Barriman fuel system cleaning will likely uncoat 175 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: the cat if it's got any car to deposits on it, 176 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: and help it work more efficiently too. But you've always 177 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: got to compare, you know, You've always got to compare 178 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: apples to apples. Right, You've got to compare before the 179 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: cat on the O seven, before the cat on the 180 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: O on the seventy, which doesn't have a cat. So 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: how would you do that? All right? The seventies sounds lean. 182 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: I'd probably bring that up to uh. I'd look at 183 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: CEO and bring c up around probably two two s 184 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: where that sits, and um, see how it runs, and 185 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: then kind of work my way backwards from there. Alright, sir, 186 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: all right, you're very welcome. You have yourself. We good rest, 187 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: the welcome, glad to be here for you. Eight five 188 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero running in the car. Doctor 189 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: coming back right after this, whether it's a little red 190 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Corvette or you go. You've come to the right place 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: to get that car fixed. Ron Andy in the car 192 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: doctor eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 193 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Now back to Ron. Let's get over to Terry in Tennessee. 194 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: O to Buick Century Terry. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 195 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh, Rod, You're welcome pleasure. Uh. 196 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: My daughter has a two thousand two Buick Century Custom 197 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: with the three point one later And the problem we're 198 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: having is, uh, she lives in Nashville, Tennessee, and uh, 199 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: she works like one point two miles from where she lives, 200 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: and about every month or a little over every month, 201 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: the battery was DAYD in her car. Okay, I've checked 202 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: the alternator is charging fine. Um, I've checked for parasitic 203 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: drawls and I couldn't find any. Uh. My theory is 204 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just curious, is what you saw, uh, is 205 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: that she's pulling more out of the battery and then 206 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: she's putting back in it. Well, well that's obvious, and 207 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: I agree with that statement. The question is why when 208 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: you when you did the Milliam draw test, Terry, what 209 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: what sort of readings did you get there's like a 210 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: point zero too maybe. Okay, so it sounds like you're 211 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: trying to tell me twenty milliams right, So did you 212 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: leave it on there for any length of time? I 213 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: left it on for six maybe six and a half hours. Okay, 214 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: So you did it? You did it over? And did 215 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: you have the meter set to min max so would 216 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: record high and low? Yes? And you never saw it 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: go above You don't. You don't happen to h I 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: don't think a thermal imager would have got thermal imaging 219 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: on the brain right now. But I don't think a 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: thermal imager would help you, um not if you don't 221 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: have the draw that goes with it. How holds the battery? Well, 222 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: I've I've tried to. I got a brand new one, 223 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: um nap, a legend battery, and then I try to 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: also try to interstate which is actually one that came 225 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: in the car, and they both that they're both done 226 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: doing pretty much the same. Um you can get a 227 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: little over a month out of the battery with her, 228 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, with with her her driving the car. But 229 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: after that, I mean, she calls me and says, you know, 230 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: it's it's dead. You know, the dome light, the dome light, 231 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: the door chime, none of that stuff. Do you have 232 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: any head on accessories in the car, or you know, 233 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: she had any like a tape player or anything, or 234 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: anything plugged into any cigarette lighters, power out, it's nothing right, 235 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: straight and clean, okay, So you know, or if if 236 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: if let's go on the belief and I'm not sure 237 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: that it's a fair statement yet, but let's go on 238 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: the belief that there really is no drain. Okay. Um, 239 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: one of the things I would do if it were 240 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: at the shop, because I don't know if it's waking 241 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: up at random. You know, that's the problem. You know, 242 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: if the car, if the car wakes up at random, 243 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: then you know it could it could it could start 244 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: a drain and then go away all on its own. 245 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: She parked the car inside a garage or outside as 246 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: it sit outdoors, No, it's it's a parking garage. So 247 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: one of the things I might do if I were, 248 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: if I had the option. See the key is that 249 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,359 Speaker 1: it takes a month. That's that's really kind of interesting. 250 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I've never I've never seen, just speaking from experience, I've 251 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: never seen a parasitic drain take a month. All right. 252 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: You know, usually the conversation is, hey, once a week, 253 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm jump starting the car. Every three or four days, 254 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm jumped starting the car. That type of thing. So 255 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: I've got to think from what you're saying, what we're 256 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: talking about, we probably don't have a drain. So now 257 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: do we have a charging system issue or is she 258 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: just not driving it enough? And maybe maybe that really 259 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: is the problem. Yeah, you know, um, I don't. I 260 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: don't know how how far you have to actually uh 261 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: daily drive a car to keep the battery at you know, 262 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be the levels. But she's driving 263 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: one point two miles to work and one point two 264 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: miles back back home. And does the does the car 265 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: sit when it's at work? Is it's sitting outside of 266 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: the in the outdoors? Yes? Okay, so let's try this. 267 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: You want to try and experiment it. Spend a little money, 268 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: We'll try and experiment it. Get out on Amazon or 269 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: if I've seen in a bunch of different places. Have 270 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: you ever seen those solar chargers? Yeah, the trickle chargers. Yeah, 271 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: here's where I here's where I would use one. I'd 272 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: get one, I'd leave it on the dashboard, show her 273 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: where the O b D two plug is? All right? Uh, 274 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: this is because this is a No. Five. There's a No. Two. 275 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: It'll have O b D two. And we should be 276 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: able to plug in the O b D two plug 277 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: as a memory saver or as a trickle charger, and 278 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: it should be charging the battery. And when she parks 279 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: the car, plug it in. And let's try that for 280 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: a month and see if that keeps the battery up 281 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: to speed. Okay, all right, Can I ask you a 282 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: question about the solar chargers. Yeah, I had thought about that, 283 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: but I didn't think it would it would do any good. 284 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: It would put enough back in the battery and the 285 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: time limit. And also you can you can buy the 286 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: different watages. Well, I would buy the highest watage I 287 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: could reasonably afford and fit on the dash. We don't 288 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: want to make her a solar collector. Uh you know, 289 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: um uh. And then to answer the first part, would 290 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: have put enough back in. I've got friends that are 291 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: using those on some of the newer, you know, nicer 292 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: cars that are you know, outside in the sun, and 293 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: they're not having an issue. They're actually trickle charging the 294 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: battery and and and that's what they do As a 295 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: matter of fact, I first learned and got the idea 296 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: about solar charging the newer cars doing this type of 297 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: thing from a car carrier. He pointed out that a 298 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: lot of the cars sitting on the docks when they 299 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: come into the country have these solar chargers already installed. 300 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: They're plugged into the O B D because they don't 301 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: know if the cars are gonna be sitting down there 302 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: thirty until they're called for by the manufacturer of the 303 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: dealership sold or whatever. So you know, solar charging is 304 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: a big deal. It's it's it's being used wide and far, 305 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't, then I've got to say to myself, Okay, 306 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: do we have you know, do we have a problem 307 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: with um something else in the car? Let me ask 308 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: you this before we do that. Can you swap cars 309 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: with her? Um? Possibly she lives Uh, I mean, UM, 310 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's a little over an hour 311 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: away from from where I do, and um, she's not 312 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: that's another problem. She's not big on driving, period. And 313 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, I get it. Listen, I don't know if 314 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd want to swap in my 315 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: car with my kid's car either. I understand that residency 316 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: to as a father. Um, but I'm just thinking, you know, 317 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: it's like, let's let's change the parameters of the problem. 318 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Is my is my issue? Terry. So if if if 319 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: we instead of solar charging, if we want to try 320 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: swapping vehicles, if you can run that vehicle for a 321 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: month and not have an issue, then we know it's 322 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: not lifestyle. We know that that or we know it's lifestyle. 323 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: Right if it happens to you when you're driving the 324 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: car in a regular basis, then we know that there's 325 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: something wrong with the car. And then we'll have to 326 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: get a little creative and how we're gonna find that 327 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: electrical draw and um uh, you know, kind of kind 328 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: of take it from there, think about it, chew on it. 329 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Let me know what you find for a solar charger, 330 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: give me call it back next week or calling back 331 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: next week. We'll kick a few more ideas around. But 332 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: the pleasure to talk to you, sir, Good luck to 333 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: you and yours and the happy New year. I'm running 334 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor, We're coming back right after this, 335 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: Frank in New Mexico. Don't go away. Yeah, you wonder 336 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: how that would work out? Running any car doctor. By 337 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: the way, you really want somebody to call up, right, 338 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: we want honesty. So I've got a two thousand three 339 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: pilot junk and here's what I need for, you know, 340 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: instead of I got this really great car and it's 341 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: so I kept it clean for air. Mikey, Let's go 342 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: and talk to Frank in New Mexico. Frank, how are 343 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: you today, sir? Oh, I'm trying to keep it on 344 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: as great show is always wrong than you. What's going on? 345 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: I got a question about what are your previous conversation 346 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: where you were discussing disgusting, disgusting cleaning injectors. Now, my 347 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: little Lady nine niean throttle body injector. It's real simple. 348 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I just sprayed the b G down in there and 349 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: it works great. B G and the tank. But do 350 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: I need to get into the fuel rail or something 351 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: on an eight seven uh Buicks three point eight multiport fuel. Yeah, 352 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: because those that you know, the eighty seven Buick's that 353 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: generation with a port fuel where the injector, if it 354 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: has the original injectors in it, that was the well, 355 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: let's say that was the poster child for clogged injectors. 356 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: All right, that's where it all started. That was that 357 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: was the reasoning why, you know, General Motors back in 358 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: the eighties, I guess back in the late seventies and 359 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: when they were developing port fuel injection. You know, the 360 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: the story goes that the reason that the issues with 361 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: dirty injectors never showed up was General Motors would start 362 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: the engine running for a hundred thousand miles and shut 363 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: it off, and the engine lasted a hundred thousand miles. 364 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: The fuel system lasted a hundred thousand miles. It passed, 365 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: it passed certification, whatever the mileage number was. The problem 366 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: came about when Harry homeowner brought the car and he 367 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: drove the car, shut it off, and drove the car 368 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: and shut it off, and then went to work and 369 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: shut it off. And you know, sometimes it was short trips, 370 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: sometimes it was long trips, and sometimes it was heat involved, 371 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: and sometimes there wasn't. And over time the gasoline would 372 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: break down and in particulate it was left in the 373 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: rail and it would start to build up in the 374 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: injector and it would clog, and by design they did. 375 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: By the mid nineties, I believe they started to come 376 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: out with non clogging or not as bad clogging injectors, 377 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: So it wasn't as big an issue, but it's it's 378 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: still there. Uh So yeah, I mean for what you're doing, 379 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: you should really be in the rail cleaning it. Throttle 380 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: body wasn't necessarily as effected as much because a throttle 381 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: body is located up high in that aluminum body, that 382 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: carburetor style housing, away from the heat x X exposure. 383 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: The way of a port fuel injector would be down 384 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: close to the cylinder head. So you know the line 385 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: of thought processes. Yet t B I not so much 386 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: port fuel or an individual injector. Yes, absolutely. Now a 387 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: newer vehicle we get into you know, oh sevens oh eight, 388 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: O nine and even newer, even a little bit older 389 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: than that maybe, but on up newer, you know, cleaning 390 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: the rail somehow doesn't seem to be as important. It 391 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be as big an issue. You don't 392 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: see the problems that you once saw, and a lot 393 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: of that I attribute to they changed the style and 394 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: the design of the injector. So yeah, I mean you 395 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: should be on the rail on that on that seven. 396 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I got to take it to a 397 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: real mechanic. Yeah, I think it's seeing they're probably gonna 398 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: go in either through the strader, they're gonna take the 399 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: straighter out or do a strader service online, or they're 400 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: going to disconnect the fuel inlet and return and just 401 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, make a separate machine, uh, you know, to 402 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: be the fuel system for it temporarily and do the 403 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: cleaning that one. Yeah, see original injectors in the car, 404 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and it's less than two thousand miles last time I 405 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: started it up. When I would get into it, it 406 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: would it just would be kind of rough, you know. Yeah, 407 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: and that's and that's part of what you'll see. You know, 408 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: injectors make such a difference in the way an engine runs. 409 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: You you don't realize, uh, you know, dirty injector a 410 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: slightly dirty injector. And you know, back in the day 411 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: when we did flow testing of injectors in the shop, 412 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: they came out what we called them buzz boxes. It 413 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: was just an electronic box you plug into the injector. 414 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: You take the injectors out of the rail, put a um. 415 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: I actually made a little beaker um at up two 416 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: by four with some syringes with you know, um the 417 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: measurements the middle of leader measurement on the side and 418 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: actually put the four injectors right and there hit the 419 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: buzz box, a two millisecond pulse, a five millisecond pulse, 420 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: so on, and look to see did they all deliver 421 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: equal amounts of fuel? And I forget the exact number, 422 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: it's been so long with the spec was, but it 423 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: was something like, you know, a point five million leader 424 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: difference um made all the difference in the way the 425 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: car ran. It was just it's staggering how how on 426 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: even the car would run from a partially clogged or 427 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: restricted injector. So you know, they were they were splitting 428 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: hairs in the eye of the needle. I always think 429 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: about that. So, um, yeah, you want to you want 430 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: to clean it all right, my friend. You're very welcome. Frank, 431 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: good to hear from you. So let's go and talk 432 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: to Mark in Tampa seven Nissan Center. Hey, Mark, you're 433 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: on with the car doctor. How can I help? Yeah, yes, 434 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: you're welcome, Thank you, sir, glad to be here. Uh, 435 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: it's a call back my seventh cents. UH had a 436 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: vibration um on the passenger seats when you get to 437 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: about forty five to about fifty five miles hour, and 438 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: it was just vibrate underload UM. And it was quite 439 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: noticeable at the time you You mentioned mounts and drive axles, 440 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: So I I replaced UM one of the acts. I 441 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: inspected the axles, and the driver's side axle had play. 442 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: Uh in the uns joint when when you go into 443 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: the transactor or transmission, it had some It had some 444 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: play there. So I replaced that axle with a new axle, 445 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: not from Nisan but I guess aftermarket, but a reasonable 446 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: quality replacement. UM. You and UM and and the play 447 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: after I put it in all that the place still there. 448 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: So I think that the play it's actually inside the transacts. 449 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know that's vary in there, that it 450 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: might be a little loose because on the other side 451 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have that. All right, Well, if if one side hasn't, 452 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: the other side doesn't, it's it's got to be determined. 453 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Is it normal when you say play, are you talking 454 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: rotationally or that the axle moves in and out against 455 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: the transmission as if you were going to remove it. No, No, 456 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: a sport like rotate like actually like if I was 457 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: totu it up or down a little uh, very very cool, 458 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: very cool kind of play. Not in and out, but 459 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: more like vertical, maybe a little longitude and latitude up 460 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: and up and down and back and forth. So it 461 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: sounds like what you're describing what you might have going 462 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: on here, Mark, is there's there's a bearing right that 463 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, there has to be some kind of way 464 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: to support that axle, and there's likely a bushing or 465 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: a support mechanism inside the transfer or the inside the 466 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: trans case itself. It sounds like you're telling me that 467 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: something is worn out, that it allows lateral up and 468 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: down and forward and back movement. Is that what you're 469 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: describing to me? Yes, yes, sir, okay, if if one 470 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: side has it and the other side doesn't, we've got 471 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, is that you know? And I can't say 472 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna sit here and tell you, hey, Mark, 473 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: I remember this off the top of my head. That 474 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: sounds okay to me. I don't know that it does, 475 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: but I've got to have I've got to tell you 476 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: a trans person or you know, a shop has to 477 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: look at this to determine it. You know, it's it's 478 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, to what degree and how much play is there? 479 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: Two thousands? I'm not worried, about it a quarter of 480 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: an inch. I'm worried, all right, is the axle seal 481 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: leaking on that side? No, it's not. Okay, then you 482 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: know likely if the axle seals not leak in, then 483 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: it's probably normal, all right. And I'll say it like 484 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: that because if once once the latitude or longitude will 485 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: support exceeds the limit. Now, the only thing holding the 486 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: axle square to the trends, if you follow what I'm saying, 487 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: is the s the seals don't. The seals don't tolerate 488 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: abuse very long, alright, right there? Now? The other the 489 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: the other thing I did, which so after replaced the 490 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: acts that size axle it it's still do it still 491 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: did the same thing. But then you also mentioned mounts, right, 492 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: so I had replaced some uh there's four mounts obviously obviously, 493 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: but um, but the transmission amount I didn't. I hadn't 494 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: replace yet at the time because it was kind of 495 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: like under the battery tray under a bunch of stuff, 496 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: so I haven't gotten to it. So I did replace that. 497 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: Uh since since we lost lost call and um, and 498 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: that improved improved so that vibration was not longer as 499 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: much it would better but it has, it has gotten 500 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: kind of increasingly a little by a little kind of 501 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: trust it's coming back. So then that's why I'm going 502 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: back to the The bearing could have actually be the bearing, 503 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: but the amount was helping it. So I'm a little 504 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: bit of a lot. But the main thing is I 505 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: might stay with that bearing. You know, if it can 506 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: something catastrophically go wrong, if that varying inside there goes 507 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: really bad or something hard to answer, somebody's gotta somebody's 508 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: gotta look at it. Like I said, I don't. I 509 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: don't think you are, because the actle seals not leaking, 510 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: it's not taking up. It's not taking up um you 511 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: know slop, it's it's it's not holding it up. So um, 512 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Sit by the give me one second, Mark, 513 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: let me pull over, take a pause. I want to 514 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: come back and addres says, I just don't want to 515 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: rush it off. Sit right where you are, moderating the 516 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: car doctor. We're back right after this. Un welcome back 517 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. Mark, you're still there? Bid? Yes, okay, 518 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: So let's let's just cover the basis, all right. Did 519 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: it change? Did the vibration change anyway? Shape or form 520 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: after the axle replacement only no, okay, and the axle 521 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: you put in was a new aftermarket axle, yeah, all right, 522 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: chance anything. It didn't it didn't have you know some 523 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: uh that Niefan axles have like a damper like in 524 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: between the two joints, right, but this one didn't come 525 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: with it. I think I don't think any opter market 526 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: really come to it. Right, That rubber damper is there 527 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: for pulsation and vibration, just so you know, Yeah, right, 528 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: I figured, but I don't so I can only buy. 529 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: I guess I can buy one from Nison and put 530 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: it on the buy a new act right, and you can. 531 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: You can. And you know, when you see the price 532 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: of the Nissan, actually you're gonna wonder if this vibration 533 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: really worth it. But I just want to point that out. 534 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: So that's that's part of this refresh my memory. You're 535 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: doing fifty going down the road, the seats vibrating. You 536 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: pop this into neutral and the vibration goes away. Yeah okay, um, 537 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: and I I let off of the I let off 538 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: of the of the of the break. I'm not break. 539 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: I let off of the accelerated pedal and it goes away. 540 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: It's underload, all right, it's it's only underload. And it 541 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: happens at fifty five. Okay, it happens around fifty miles 542 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: per hour. In between forty five and fifty five. It's 543 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: it happens there, and then after fifty five it goes away. 544 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: But now run, if you know, you always tell the 545 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: customers thing. They need to tell you the whole story. Now, 546 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: there is also a vibration around sixty five. There was 547 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: not there before before the axle. Yes, and so um, 548 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: there's also a sixty and now that vibration. It's not 549 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: on the seat itself. Let's say I don't feel it 550 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: on the seat, but it's more like in the whole 551 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of like not front end or but the whole 552 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: of heaven. It's more like in the area not necessarily 553 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: only on the seat, steering wheel, dashboard or dashboard, but 554 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: but not not steering wheel. It's never been how are 555 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: the tires on this car? Mark that the tires were replaced, 556 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: There were balanced, they were rotated in different places. They've 557 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: been driven. It's not tired. That that was ruled out. 558 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: And you've you've you've moved, you've moved the tires around 559 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: with no change. Okay, so so we'll eliminate tires. Although 560 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: I never I never believe anything is out of the 561 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: realm until I actually see the car fixed. So we're 562 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: down to we're down to. It's it's likely either mounts 563 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: or axles. All right. What what I'd like to see is, 564 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, and usually it's the driver's side. Actually, usually 565 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: it's the left axle that causes all the grief on 566 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: these cars. All right, I'd like to see. I'd be 567 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: curious if you took that old axle. Do you still 568 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: have the old axle? Yes, take it apart. Take apart 569 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: and look at the inner joint. Look at the inner 570 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: plunge joint. It's gonna be a three ball or tripod 571 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: style inner joint, or it should be. All right, Look 572 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: at the receiver cup that that that the balls sat in. 573 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: Is it notched and worn? If you can take your 574 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: finger and run it down inside the tulip as we 575 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: call it, uh, the three pronged receiver, and it's a 576 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: sharp drop like there's a you know, it feels like 577 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: a clam shell on the inside, then that joint, that 578 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: joint was bad. And I'm just questioning whether or not. 579 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: You've got a good quality replacement, and I'm wondering if 580 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: that's what's holding this up. So um, try that calling 581 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: back next week let me know what happens. I'm running 582 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 1: out of time. I appreciate it. Mark, you hang in there, 583 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. Nine zero. The car doctor is 584 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: coming back right after this, clocking back running into the 585 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: car doctor Harry in New York fifty seven Chevy Bell yere. 586 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: If I'm reading that right, what's going on? Harry? Yes? Well, 587 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I got a two eight three in the car and 588 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: it keeps overheating, but only at an idol. Okay, if 589 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: you've done everything. I changed the radiator distributor, put a 590 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: new thermostats in it. I just can't only in all right, 591 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: if I stop, like in a parade five minutes later, 592 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: ten minutes later, she starts to climb and she keeps climbing. 593 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: All right? Are you? I don't know what else stock engine? Harry? 594 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: The original in it, thinking that would help. I put 595 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: a sixth plade fan in it. No help? All right? 596 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: Your your definition of overheating? Where does the temperature actually go? 597 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: Keeps going? I got it up by two ten and 598 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: I shut it down. I'm worried it keeps on going. 599 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: I put a one I put a one eight thermostad, 600 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: uh one sixty even the one night, and it doesn't. 601 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: And I never start it without the thermostad. Now I 602 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know. One eight is probably where you want to be. 603 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: This is stock to eight three. This isn't a hypo 604 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: two eighty three. There's no modifications to this, right, this 605 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: is the original engine. It's rebuilt. It's been rebuilt about 606 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: ten years ago, and that just required about three or 607 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: four years ago. And I just realized this problem alright, 608 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: So you know, the simple obvious one to me is 609 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: how do you know the water pumps any good? But 610 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's good? Right? Brand new replaced brand new win? 611 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh but a year and you had the problem before 612 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: you replaced it? Well, okay, back up, I've never noticed 613 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: until I was in a parade, and stop and go 614 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: real slow. Okay did the problem that? Did the problem 615 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: happen prior to the water pump replacement? Harry? It did? Okay, 616 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: So let's assume it's not that I'd be curious if 617 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: you could find out was the block board? Did they 618 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: bore it too far? If they did this at three 619 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: and they board it sixty thousands. The water jackets were 620 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: so thin on those on the original blocks. It may 621 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: be overheating as a result of that. See if you 622 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: can find that out, call me back next week we 623 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: can talk about it further. We're just running out of time. 624 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm not anating of the car. Doctor. Mechanics aren't expensive, 625 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you