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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature, feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show Creatures Versus Video Game Bosses,

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Speaker 1: we're matching some of the most iconic video game bosses

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Speaker 1: with real life creatures in a no holds barred match

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Speaker 1: of wits, bron brain and slime, which members of the

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Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom can travel to the Mushroom Kingdom and defeat

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Speaker 1: Bowser is echoed, the dolphin really up to the task

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Speaker 1: of defeating the final boss or could he use some

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Speaker 1: fishy friends? And could a mycologist take down the batties

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Speaker 1: from the most recent Resident Evil game. Discover this more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the age old question parasitic Iapod Got

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Speaker 1: your Tongue? Joining me today is the creator of the

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Speaker 1: wildly popular YouTube channel that translates real life animal biology

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Speaker 1: into video game terms. Patch from tears Zoo.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hi, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I am very excited to have you on for this episode.

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Speaker 1: I think your videos are wildly entertaining. They're really cool.

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Speaker 2: Love.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a secret at this point that

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Speaker 1: I'm a nerd kind of in every aspect of my life.

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Speaker 1: I love video games, I love animals. I really love

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Speaker 1: sort of I don't want to say gamification because I

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Speaker 1: don't like that word, but taking sort of animal biology

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Speaker 1: and putting it into terms that people who love video

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Speaker 1: games can really understand.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. I'm really excited to rank

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Speaker 2: some video game bosses versus animals with you, so uh.

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Speaker 1: First, I mean, we've got to go with maybe the

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Speaker 1: most iconic boss of all time. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: put any video game bosses on blast here, but I

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Speaker 1: think Bowser it right.

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Speaker 2: King Koopa Basa is definitely a big bad that everyone knows.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah. The Mario games feature Bowser as

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Speaker 1: the main antagonist. He's that big, spiky turtle like fellow.

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Speaker 1: He's king of the Koopas, which I guess is what

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Speaker 1: those little turtles are. I only discovered that into my

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Speaker 1: adult life. I just thought they were turtles that you

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Speaker 2: But yeah.

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Speaker 1: He frequently captures Princess Peach, and his life goals are

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Speaker 1: to defeat Mario, become the ruler of the Mushroom Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: and maybe go on a date with Princess Peach, which

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Speaker 1: seems counterintuitive to the whole kidnappy thing.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I agree, maybe not the best way

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Speaker 2: to go about it, and I think some of the

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Speaker 2: recent Mario games have kind of addressed that. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yasa definitely a legend, a.

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Speaker 1: Right, a legend, just not in the dating sphere.

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Speaker 2: So perhaps not.

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Speaker 1: Some of Boers strengths are that he spits fire. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. It's a pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That's a strong ability for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's spiky. He got a lot of spikes, which

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Speaker 1: you know, we know is a good defense mechanism for

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Speaker 1: a variety of animals. He's got horns and claws and

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Speaker 1: that that's good. That definitely helps him out. And he's

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's got a serious size advantage over most of

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Speaker 1: Yes, Mario Mario. Yeah, Mario's kind of a he's a

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Speaker 1: compact Italian plumber.

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Speaker 2: He's a short king.

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Speaker 1: He's a short king. Yeah, he's you know what he

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Speaker 1: does lacks in size, he makes up in I guess

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Speaker 1: stomping ability, right, that's his main power.

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Speaker 2: Stomping, Yeah, I suppose so.

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Speaker 1: Stomping and jumpin'.

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Speaker 2: Yep, he's breaking next, jumping on people's heads.

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Speaker 1: We love a short Italian plumber king who stepped on

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Speaker 1: your neck. So Bowser's weaknesses is, well, there's his unrequited,

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Speaker 1: unhealthy infatuation with princesses, which you know, that's more of

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Speaker 1: a psychological thing. You know, maybe you could get under

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Speaker 1: his skin with some comments about you know, he's he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know how to talk to women. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: his weakness is I think poor agility and flexibility. And

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Speaker 1: he has this spot open on his tail that in

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Speaker 1: spin him around to defeat him. Based on these specifications,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my mind kind of goes to the

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Speaker 2: sorts of animals that are the predators of turtles. Bowser's

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Speaker 2: Really big bird to do that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it when birds of prey, just like it's

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Speaker 2: Exactly, you're letting you're abusing the physics of yeah, real life.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're letting gravity do the dirty work for you.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. It's super intelligent. It's genius. Uh, you know, it

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Speaker 2: works smarter, not harder, right, Smarter, not harder, precisely. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna find any birds that can

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe not, but you know there are animals.

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Speaker 1: So one thing I was looking for is strong grip, right,

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Speaker 1: because you need you're gonna need a strong grip because

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Speaker 1: once you've got Bowser's tail, it's the game's over. Right,

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Speaker 1: You've got his tail he can't get. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the things is even though Mario is teeny tiny, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so are you thinking like crocodiles.

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Speaker 1: Crocodile's is a very good one.

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Speaker 2: Like if a bit a Bowser's tail for sure that

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Speaker 2: Bowser would be in a tough, tough spot, pretty hard

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, so with the crocodile, I think you

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Speaker 1: my opinion, the crocodile would win every time.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, I think, especially because if Bowser

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Speaker 2: decides to use his firebreath attack, the crocodile could just

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Speaker 2: like submerge itself under the water. Absolutely, I guess in

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Speaker 2: this hypothetical scenario, the croc has to also have water

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Speaker 1: There are water levels in Mario, right, There's lots of water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely water levels.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely water levels. So yeah, let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: crocodiles are large reptiles found in aquatic environments all around

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Speaker 1: the world. Most species of crocodile employ a devastating attack

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Speaker 1: the death roll is the crocodile's way of attacking and

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Speaker 1: devouring prey many times its size, such as a will

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Speaker 1: I think even you imagine, like crocodiles are pretty big,

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Speaker 1: but imagine trying to get like a will to beast

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Speaker 1: You've never you've never tried to chug a will the beast.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that, I have no, have you no.

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Speaker 1: I think the closest I've gotten is like trying to

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Speaker 1: get a whole in and out burger, like half of

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Speaker 2: Awesome. I've done that with like donuts. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I've done with a burger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work very good with a burger, but

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Speaker 1: I was really trying like a Guy Fieri bite with

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice, one bye challenge and then so many regrets.

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Speaker 2: I respect it, Yep. The regrets are for later. That's

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Speaker 2: a problem for a future Katie, right.

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Speaker 1: That's for future Katie. Right now, it's in and out

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Speaker 1: Katie time. But for a crocodile. That's a real problem.

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Speaker 1: Crocodiles don't really chew their food, do they. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the chewing muscles that other carnivores. They

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if anything, the crocodile would probably rip

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't really have much other options right to actually

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Speaker 2: which I don't think a croucle will be really able

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Speaker 1: He'd have to hollow out Bowser from the inside, like

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Speaker 2: I suppose is that that could definitely work. Some pretty

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Speaker 1: David Attenborough narrating as you see, like like a hyena

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Speaker 1: that's easy enough. It just chomps down, crushes it, and

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Speaker 1: often for bigger prey, the crocodile will actually drown its

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Speaker 1: its jaws are great for gripping, bad for chewing, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, it's jaw strength has a bite force of

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Speaker 2: You'd have to shake them off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's why when you put your hand inside

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Speaker 2: It's just not do not recommend that.

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Speaker 1: Do not recommend. I did find a video when I

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Speaker 1: I don't want people googling it. But it's bad. Don't

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Speaker 1: put your crocodile mouth people.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it, not getting if you want your hand back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't put it there.

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Speaker 1: If you're not offering your hand literally to the crocodile

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Speaker 1: this death roll so where it just spin, spin, spin,

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Speaker 1: like a video game attack. It's an incredible like because

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Speaker 1: they're in the water, they have some buoyancy, some more

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Speaker 1: I guess agility than you would think such a large

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Speaker 1: And uh so they are able to then disassemble something

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Speaker 2: It would certainly be a pretty gruesome sight to watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Longer camp because yeah, would it not get enough oxygen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nevertheless, they do. They do team up and fight snakes

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think he could not only could

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Speaker 2: I do thank you. I would not want to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, I was just in Costa Rica and even

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Speaker 1: It can hurt, hurt, it can hurt bad.

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Speaker 2: So imagine one that's two thousand times as bigger. Thank

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Speaker 1: So I can't imagine one seven hundred newtons of force?

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Speaker 1: Which yauser's that? Yeah? Quite a strong handshake.

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Speaker 1: A sport, grabs your hand, your vice like grip just

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Speaker 2: because sounds very unique. I haven't heard about this.

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Speaker 1: Queen and rescue the planet and Echoes pod of dolphins.

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00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: So the Vortex Queen is a giant alien head that

433
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: lives in the deep sea with anglerfish like jaws and

434
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: huge black eyes. She attacks her enemies by using strong

435
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: suction to pull creatures into her mouth and devours them instantly.

436
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: She can summon vortex jellyfish and Vortex drones to attack

437
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: the player, all the while trying to suck you right

438
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: into her mouth. So you defeat the Vortex Queen, Echo

439
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: must first destroy her eyes with sonar and then break

440
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: off her jaw and then break her skull.

441
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's so violent.

442
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for a fun game about dolphins, it's

443
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: a pretty violent and uh, pretty intense. Like this Vortex Queen.

444
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: The pixel art of it it's bonkers. It's like it

445
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: does look like a terrifying deep sea creature kind of

446
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: fused with like an alien skull, which is definitely not

447
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: probably what the mini thousands of grandma's who picked this

448
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: game out for their kid like thought was going to

449
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: be and just jumping and swimming and killing alien giant

450
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: heads down deep in the sea, you know, standard marine

451
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: fun times. So the issue I have with this, I

452
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: mean they try to explain away some of the things

453
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: with Echo the dolphin like time travels and picks up

454
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: magic orbs so that he can breathe underwater without Because

455
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: dolphins are mammals, they gotta breathe sometimes, so they can't

456
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: unlike maybe some larger cetaceans like a sperm whale or

457
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: a blue whale. They really can't go that deep and

458
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: spin that much time deep down without surfacing to breathe.

459
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: So Echo really shouldn't be down there. They try to

460
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: explain it away with magic, but that's not good enough

461
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: for me. Also, dolphins, sonar is not a weapon. It

462
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: is a sensory tool.

463
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

464
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: It uses clicks to bounce sound off objects and form

465
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: a map of their surroundings. These clicks don't do anything

466
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: really to harm other animals unless it confuses some other

467
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: cetacean that is also trying to find.

468
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 2: As far as sonic weapons go, there are much more

469
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: dam dress sonic blasts in the animal kingdom, like even

470
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: just like the shriek of a parrot I think is

471
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: potentially almost as loud as like a gunshot, and that

472
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: can definitely mess with your ears if you're too close, or.

473
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: The pinch of a mantis peacock mantis shrimp is gonna

474
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: be sure.

475
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, not really a sonic.

476
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: Weapon, but it's definitely shock wave, Yeah exactly, but no, Yeah,

477
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: the sonar doesn't really do anything. This is very hyped up,

478
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: sort of a Vana syndrome esque situation with act the

479
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: dolphin really promising much more of a sonic weapon than

480
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: and dolphin can really do. So, in my opinion, dolphin

481
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: is not really the best animal for the job, even

482
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: a magic time traveling dolphin. Of course, dolphins have a

483
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: lot of strength that I should not downplay.

484
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: Like.

485
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: They are intelligent, they're great at teamwork, very strong abs.

486
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the abs of a dolphin.

487
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: I can't say that I have no. I mean, I

488
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: guess if you're doing all that, yeah, like you're basically

489
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: just doing crunches in order to move.

490
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Jim goals.

491
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: I guess it makes sense.

492
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: It's up on my gym goals board. I want to

493
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: have abs of a dolphin. They are agile and in

494
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: groups of dolphins, they are capable of forming bubblenuts and

495
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: sand nets, which would be very useful for trying to

496
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: defeat an alien queen. Unfortunately, within the context of the story,

497
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Echo's dolphin buddies have been kidnapped by the aliens. So

498
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: oh right, And so my thinking is that Echo's going

499
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: to need to get a team together and think outside

500
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: of his dolphin group and find like a marine team

501
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: of creepy ocean critters where you have like a cool

502
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: montage of Echo going around to all these different marine

503
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: animals and they're like, God, damn it, I'm in and

504
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: then they play some music and they get in like

505
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: a submarine van thing, and yeah, right, So the team

506
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: needs to be able to defeat the Vortex Queen. In

507
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: the three stages that the player needs to defeat the

508
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Vortex Queen, it has to attack the eyes, the mouth,

509
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: and then the skull.

510
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: So and to be able to deal with all the

511
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: little millions, right, all the little minions the Vortex Queen

512
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: was summoning like jellyfish. So I was thinking, if it's

513
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: got to deal with jellyfish, maybe a marine turtle, a

514
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: sea turtle, Yeah, pretty good for that. They love to jellyfish.

515
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: Maybe clear the way, Yeah, because they eat jellyfish, right.

516
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: Exactly, And so I mean in order to even get

517
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: to the to the final boss, right, you wouldn't want

518
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: to be swimming through jellyfish and take a whole bunch

519
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: of stings and die from poison before you even have

520
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: the chance.

521
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So you got you got your turtle squad

522
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: who clears out the minions. There you go, perfect, and

523
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: then you need something to attack the eyes. I'm thinking

524
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: for that the copapod Omada koita elongata. Have you heard

525
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: of this?

526
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: No? Is just like so a copa pod that's like

527
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: a really really microscopic crustation, right.

528
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: It's they can be microscopic, so they can be zooplankton,

529
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: and sometimes they can be larger such that they're visible

530
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: with the naked eye, usually under about an inch. Still

531
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: very small, okay, so real tiny, real tiny. But copepods

532
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: are a class of crustaceans, and like you said, they're

533
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: often really tiny, like zooplankton size. But this one, the

534
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: oh elongatta, is little like worm size, like under an

535
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: inch long, little pink. They're kind of a weird y shape.

536
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: They look like a worm that has two little noodle legs.

537
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: It's actually kind of funny, and they are parasites that

538
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: attach themselves to the eyes of their host, feeding on

539
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: their eye tissue and impairing their vision.

540
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's horrible. I would not want to be that

541
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: thing's victim.

542
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: Its typical host is one of the largest and oldest

543
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: living sharks, the greenland shark. So yeah, you know.

544
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: These are ones that live like half a millenniu basically,

545
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: like four or five hundred years exactly.

546
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Yes, ancient, ancient, So they'd give like the Vortex Queen

547
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: a run for her money in terms of you know,

548
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: old eldrick creatures that lurk in the water.

549
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: I feel like you could also go for like a

550
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: swordfish or a marlin or something.

551
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just to put the eyes out.

552
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 2: Pokemon the eye if she needs to do.

553
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: That's a much more straight Yeah, that's a much more

554
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: straightforward method. I feel like.

555
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: It might get the chopped on a little quicker if

556
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: these parasites take a little while to start shop and

557
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: destroy the eye tissue. On the other hand, a quick stab.

558
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: Is it as fun though, like to slowly, you know,

559
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: like plant those months in advance, Like you could have

560
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: a spy montage of these little copa pods getting in there.

561
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: You definitely could.

562
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: You're a little bit. You're a little less devious than

563
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: I am. I think you're just like we go in,

564
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: we scoop its eyes out with a swordfish, we go out.

565
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

566
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: So there are some theories actually that the copa pod

567
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: and the greenland shark actually have a mutualistic relationship rather

568
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: than a parasitic one.

569
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: Oh so you think it would betray the team.

570
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: It's possible because the copa pod actually emits a or

571
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: at least the theory. I'm not sure exactly how much

572
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: of this has proven, but they may emit a slight

573
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: level of bioluminescence, and so the idea is, well, the

574
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: greenland shark doesn't really use its eyes much to hunt

575
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: in the first place, so it could use this bioluminescence

576
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: of these copa pods to draw fish closer to it

577
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: and then ambush, using its a sense of smell to

578
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: ambush these fish and eat them. That's a theory.

579
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: It's quite a trade off. I could make that deal.

580
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Have your have your weird living eyeball tassels in exchange

581
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: for slightly easier meals. I don't know, maybe maybe I

582
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: do it.

583
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: That's a tough call. I guess I wasn't using them

584
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: like you said.

585
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they use their sense of smell. It does

586
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: feel like it'd be like kind of annoying, Like it

587
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: always feels like you have something in your eye. Could

588
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: you do.

589
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Exactly, Paris. I always get eyelashes in my eyes, so

590
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: I can't imagine a crustacean hanging on.

591
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: I hate eyeball stuff. I hate looking at think like

592
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: I can't. I have a glasses prescription, and people like, well,

593
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: why don't you wear contacts? It's like, no, never.

594
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Your eye every time you take it out.

595
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, those little peatrie discs that you

596
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: put on there waiting for some kind of voracious bacteria

597
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: to grow in there, no thank you. So either with

598
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: a swordfish poking the eyeball out or the copa pods

599
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: slowly but surely devouring the vortex Queen's vision. Let's say

600
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: we've taken out our eyes. Next stage is taking out

601
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: her mouth. Now echo does this by I guess dismantling

602
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: her jaw with sonar, which we've established is not really

603
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: how sonar works.

604
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: I really strong. Yeah, blast of sonic energy to break

605
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: a bone.

606
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a jaw bone that it would be

607
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: such a strong blast of sonic energy. I think it

608
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: would destroy Echo in the process. It would just explode,

609
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: right if.

610
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: It's being emitted from Echo's like face, I assume, or

611
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: like it's a little it's.

612
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, they use they use the mill in their head

613
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: as like an echo chamber to help with the acoustics

614
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: of these clicks. They would explode its head.

615
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I do think it would take some area of

616
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: effect damage there for sure.

617
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: A little bit of friendly fire. So instead of Echo

618
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: exploding its head with this mystery sonar, I think we

619
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: need a parasitic tongue isopod. One of my favorite parasites.

620
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like where you're going with this.

621
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, the simultheo exigua. It's also called a parasitic

622
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: tongue louse. We've actually talked about this little lady on

623
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: the show before. Have you heard of this beautiful, beautiful

624
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: tongue parasite.

625
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: I have, and it's probably one of the most gut

626
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: wrenching things to ever think about. This is the creature

627
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: that essentially replaces the tongue of its victim.

628
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly.

629
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: So I feel like at this point I'm feeling really

630
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: bad for this pot like it can keep my friends.

631
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm not really go to these extreme measures to torture

632
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: this thing's.

633
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Objecting her to like, and then it slowly devours her

634
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: eyes and then it replaces their time. This is psychological intimidation.

635
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: The aliens are just going to pack up and leave Earth.

636
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you got tongue parasites down here, never

637
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: mind keep stinking dolphins. Jesus. Yeah, so uh see eggs

638
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: we uh or exit exigua. I have so much trouble

639
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: with that name. The tongue laus Uh will enter the

640
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: gills of a fish and swim up to its tongue

641
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: and cut off the blood supply to the tongue while

642
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: sucking on that sweet, sweet fish blood tongue for its

643
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: own self. And once it has consumed enough of the

644
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: fish's blood, it will attach itself to the stub of

645
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: the tongue because as it sucks the blood from the tongue,

646
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: tongue atrophies and withers and falls off, which is fun

647
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: fun visual. And these little isopods, I mean imagine like

648
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: a pale, white, giant version of one of those little

649
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: roly polleys. That's what they look like kind of horrible.

650
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: And when you open up one of these fishes mouth

651
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: that has this is infected with this parasite, you just

652
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: see like this little parasite face staring out like the

653
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: little alien tongue, and aliens like, oh hell yeah. So

654
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: she will live there, feeding off of the fish's blood

655
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes the fish is mucus. She's not picky and

656
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: acts as the fish's replacement tongue because the fish literally

657
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: has no choice. If it's gonna eat, it's gotta use

658
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: this isopod as its tongue. And once she is ready

659
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: to release her brute pouch, she abandons fish and the

660
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: fish actually dies without this parasite because it now has

661
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: zero tongue it.

662
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: You know, really, so the so you're saying, the isopod

663
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: is actually better than nothing.

664
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: It's better than not.

665
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: She help, it helps. Yeah, it's poor victim out at

666
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: least a little bit right at.

667
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: It's better not to get it in the first place.

668
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: But you're screwed once it leaves the host, and it

669
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: will inevitably leave you to lay its eggs, which you know,

670
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: it's just kind of it's kind of cruel to like

671
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: take someone's tongue and be like, I'm your tongue now,

672
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: and then when you finally get used to it, it's like,

673
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: well see you, It's like, but you're my tongue, not anymore,

674
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm not bite. The reason I keep saying she is

675
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: actually does the female isopod that does this, and it's

676
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: got a really interesting life cycle. So they all start

677
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: out as males and enter into the fish gills where

678
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: they'll feed off blood supply near the gills. But if

679
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: a second uh see exegua enters into the gills, the

680
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: first one transforms from being male into being female, and

681
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: uh they mate, and then the male you know, just

682
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: I think, leaves and then the newly transformed female goes

683
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: up and bites on the tongue and does that cool

684
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: magic trick with the fish tongue that I'm talking about,

685
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: So real, interesting little creature, absolutely horrifying to anything in

686
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: the ocean that has a tongue. So yeah, that would

687
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: be horrible My plans for the vortex Queen's tongue. And

688
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: then all you need to do if she's not freaked

689
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: out enough that she just leaves Earth because it's so

690
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: horribly messed up, much more messed up than anything she

691
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: could come up with as this, like alien queen, you

692
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: do need to attack her skull and this is maybe

693
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: my favorite one, which.

694
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: I can't I can't wait to see how you're going

695
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: to this.

696
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: Well, look, so the vortex queen is a deep sea creature.

697
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: She's adapted to the crushing depths of the ocean floor.

698
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: So she can't have a solid, hard skull filled with

699
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: gooey brain like humans do, because it would collapse from

700
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: the massive pressure of the bottom of the ocean to equalize.

701
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: So if we went down, yeah, we went down to

702
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean, our heads would collapse a

703
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, they'd be squished. It might not look

704
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't look like your whole face got squished in,

705
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: but your skull would definitely crack and start letting in

706
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: water to equalize the pressure, which is bad for your brain.

707
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this kills the person.

708
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: This kills the person. So to survive the crushing depths

709
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: of the ocean floor, animals who have evolved down there

710
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: actually often have gaps in their skull to help equalize

711
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: that pressure. So to illustrate this using like balls, like

712
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: if you took a ping pong ball, and somehow shoved

713
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: it down into the bottom of the ocean, it would

714
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: collapse because the huge PSI force of all of that

715
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: stacks and stacks of water would be trying to equalize

716
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: the pressure from inside the ball, which is filled with air,

717
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: which is less dense, and so it crushes the ping

718
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: pong ball. That's like your human skull. Maybe not quite

719
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: because our unless your total airhead literally filled with air,

720
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: would you have such a dramatic effect. But if you

721
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: drop a whiffle ball which has a bunch of holes

722
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: in it, down to the bottom of the ocean, it's

723
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: not going to collapse because inside the whiffle ball is

724
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: just more water, and so the density of water is

725
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: equal to the density of other water, so there's no

726
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: pressure to have to equalize, So whiffle ball.

727
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: Doesn't flow out out. So if you have the actual

728
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: material itself doesn't get impacted like the plastic of a

729
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: whiffle ball.

730
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, pends on the material. So if you have a

731
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: porous material like styrofoam, that actually gets crushed because all

732
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: the air inside the styrofoam gets squeezed, And so you

733
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: can actually take a styrofoam cup, put it down in

734
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean, it comes back a little

735
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: tiny mini cup.

736
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: Oh okay, right, So the material has to be like

737
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: super solid, rigid, no pockets of air inside.

738
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: Plastic that does not have air pockets, and I think

739
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: is sturdy enough to survive the bottom of the ocean.

740
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Bones sometimes may not be because bone is more porous,

741
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: so that might get more pressure. And in fact, with

742
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: these deep sea animals, they often have cartilage instead of

743
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: hard bone, so that they can move around and the

744
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: pressure may kind of bend their bones a little bit

745
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: and push inwards, but they're not as brittle as a

746
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: sort of calcified bone, so that they're just much more

747
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: durable to that underwater pressure. So what I'm saying is

748
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: the vortex Queen's skull has to be made at least

749
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: partially out of cartilage, and it's got to have gaps

750
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: in it. And so that means that these like ramming

751
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: attacks that you do in the Echo the Dolphin game

752
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: to like crush her skull, I don't think would be

753
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: very effective because it's like, dude, I'm already getting you know,

754
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: all of these these this pressure from the deep sea water,

755
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: Like you can't punch my skull in basically, uh, with

756
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: your your puny dolphin powers. Instead, I think we need

757
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: to use a hagfish's ability to bore a hole into

758
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: the soft tissue of the vortex queens skull and eat

759
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: it from the inside out.

760
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: So hag fish.

761
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: Hagfish, Well, they don't specifically look for brains, and typically

762
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: they're looking for uh, dead or dying animals. But by

763
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: the time this poor vortex queen has had her mouth

764
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: and eyeballs taken care of, I think the hagfish would

765
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: step in.

766
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: That makes sense. It's in pretty rough shave at that point.

767
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Hagfish have a horrifying name that matches their horrifying little bodies.

768
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: They're pink, slimy, squirmy, eel like primitive fish with no

769
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: vertebral column and no jaw. They can grow around twenty

770
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: inches or fifty centimeters long, which it's too much for me.

771
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: When I'm thinking about just holding one of these, like

772
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: pink slime worm, they look like worms. It's very uncomfortable.

773
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: They're not worms. They are very primitive fish. So since

774
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 1: they don't have jaws, they don't you know, no non

775
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: eat you know, like a regular fish. They have two

776
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: plates covered in rows, and rows of pointique teeth, and

777
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: they use these plates to grab and rasp flesh off

778
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: of carrion or they're sickly and dying victims. And when

779
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: they've grabbed a nice piece of flesh and kind of

780
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: gotten it sort of secured between these plates of teeth,

781
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: they'll often wiggle around and not like not themselves around

782
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: and rip big chunks off of their target. So a

783
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: group of hagfish. Have you ever wondered, like what happens

784
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: when a huge whale dies in the ocean, Like where

785
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: does its body go? Sometimes it washes up on the beach,

786
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: but we don't have just constant littering dead whale bodies everywhere,

787
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: so it has to go somewhere right right, and it goes.

788
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: You get a good mix of hagfish and crabs and stuff.

789
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: I I kind of always assume there's a bunch of crabs.

790
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Crabs love a big, big cetacean body. They'll they love

791
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: a big whale body. That's that's like, that's like TGI

792
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: Fridays for crabs. So absolutely, the crabs are wonderful scavengers,

793
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: great at breaking down decomposing bodies in the ocean. But

794
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: hagfish are the unsung heroes of waste disposal. They love

795
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: a dead body. They will get all in there. You

796
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: can see sometimes these ghostly corpses of a large whale

797
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: and then just these hagfish darting in and out of

798
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: the body as they kind of like tear out these

799
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: holes and then go inside to the softer bits of

800
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: the whale. Sou and they're very slimy. Hagfish slime. Is

801
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: this really thick? It's almost like egg white texture. It's

802
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: so thick and gooey, and in fact, it's so full

803
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: of proteins. Like some people, I mean have suggested we

804
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: could use that as like an alternative to egg white protein,

805
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: which you know, okay, yeah, just like for breakfast, just

806
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, like, good morning, I gotta got a.

807
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Milk tasty hagfish omelet.

808
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta milk the hagfish for its slime to

809
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: make an omelet. You know, maybe it's more eco friendly.

810
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. That may be our future where you

811
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: just milk a hagfish for your breakfast.

812
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: So I think I so much look forward to.

813
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: What a bright future. Look. Maybe it's delicious, you just

814
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: can't judge. Uh So, yeah, I think that if you

815
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: just set a bunch of hagfish on this poor this

816
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: poor vortex coin. She's she's doomed in a horrifying way.

817
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Yeah, that it seems like it would do it.

818
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there's probably be plenty of crabs

819
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: also following, and yes, all sorts of other bottom feeder parasites.

820
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: A party down there.

821
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: Pour into whatever hole this hagfish.

822
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: Kind of like scrobe lights like an anglerfish, sort of

823
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: using his Laura's for Laura's stroke like.

824
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: Using y yeah by luminescent rave, let's go.

825
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember when that new Resident Evil game like

826
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: Resident Evil Villages came out or Village and that giant

827
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: vampire Lady h Lady Dimitriscue. Uh, it just kind of

828
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: took the Internet by storm.

829
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember Twitter blowing up about that for sure,

830
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: quite a day.

831
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: People love a giant, tall vampire queen.

832
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: I guess apparently there's a lot of simping going on

833
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: on Twitter days. For sure.

834
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: A lot of people had crushes on her. I guess

835
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: it was like because she could crush them and that exactly.

836
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: You know, that does it for people sometimes the thing

837
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: that's their thing, a big giant deadly vampire queen like

838
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: the size of a giraffe that. I mean, look, I'm

839
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: not here to shame people for their preference.

840
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: That's beyond me. But you know, that's if that's their thing.

841
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: But you know, whether or not you want to take

842
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: her out on a date, she definitely wants to kill

843
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: and eat you. So she is a boss in the

844
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: Resident Evil game. Uh wow, that's definitely going to get

845
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: picked up on the audio.

846
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: But whatever.

847
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So, uh so, if you haven't played the Resident

848
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: Evil games, which maybe some of us haven't, including me,

849
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't very good at trying to hide the fact

850
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: I haven't played this game as being like.

851
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: Justin I played like the Oh yeah, I played on.

852
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: There is some version. I didn't play it, but I

853
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: watched my brother play it back when I was a kid,

854
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: and there was like a scene where one of the

855
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: zombies was like slowly going up the stairs and you

856
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: saw it from the zombies perspective, so you knew it

857
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: was coming. I was like scared to use the stairs

858
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: for a week afterwards. So spooky, and I think I've

859
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: got some rain and thunder going on, so perfect ambiance

860
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: for this section, guys. So in this Resident Evil game,

861
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: the giant vampire lady, I think it's Dmitroscu. D'mitra Scuv.

862
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: Looks like a very tall, well dressed woman, and she

863
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: was infected with a fictional parasite called the Cadou parasite.

864
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be trying to be really clear

865
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: here because the video game the Resident Evil games deal

866
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: with a lot of fictional like molds and parasites and

867
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: kind of faux biology terms, and I'll try to clearly

868
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: label that these are the fictional ones. But I'm going

869
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: to talk about some real molds and fungus in parasites

870
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: that I think could counteract these video game ones.

871
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: So the.

872
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Cado parasite somehow mutated her into a giant lady who

873
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: needs to drink blood to survive. There's some sort of

874
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: sciencey schmyancy explanation in the game. Doesn't really make sense,

875
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: but I love it. I'm not criticizing it. I love

876
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: it when video games are like, yeah, and then here's

877
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: this fungus that makes everyone vampires, like right on? And

878
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: then her minions are three lovely ladies who were also

879
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: surgically implanted with the Cado parasite. Again fake this is all.

880
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: This is all fictional parasites which somehow merged their DNA

881
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: with a swarm of blowflies so they can like separate

882
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: into swarms of blowflies and then coalesce back into ladies,

883
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: which you know, it's pretty cool. It's a cool it's

884
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: cool powers.

885
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 2: I like, yeah, definitely useful.

886
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you got if you're there's like some

887
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: doggy doo doo in your house, it's like, don't worry,

888
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: we'll get it. Boom, it's gone.

889
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

890
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: So the Resident Evil series in general often combines folklore

891
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: like vampires and werewolves with a sort of fake biology.

892
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: Like the cause of some freaky powers or mutations, uh

893
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: is caused by something known as the mold, which is

894
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: a fictional fungus that can somehow store genetic information and

895
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: cause specific hallucinations as well as mutations to create horrible monsters.

896
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: So this isn't really biologically feasible, but uh, let's fight

897
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: the weird fantasy fungus with weird real life fungus. So

898
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: I think this whole castle of weird fungal lady vampires

899
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: could have been taken out by a smart micologist. So

900
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: mycologist is someone who studies fungus and there are let's fight.

901
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: Let's fight fungus with fungus. What do you say?

902
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, I can't say I'm super well versed in mycology.

903
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean either of I.

904
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Relied a lot on you know, mycology monthly for this research.

905
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: Excellent, I respect it. Uh. Most of what I know

906
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: about fungus is like pretty much just the cordyceps fungus,

907
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: which is yes, the kind that controls insect brains, yes,

908
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: and the basis for the video game The Last of

909
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: Us Yes, because the zombies in that game, or fungal

910
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: as well.

911
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: That is one of my favorite of the parasitic fungus.

912
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

913
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: So, Actually, those kinds of fungus that will eat insects

914
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: and be parasites on an insect are called intomo pathogenic funguses.

915
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: Into moo, let me try that one more time. Intimopathogenic fungus.

916
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: There you go, entomology and pathogenic disease.

917
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. The Cordyceps are one of many species of

918
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: fungus that kills and eats insects by attaching to the

919
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: insects body is spores uh, and then germinating and colonizing

920
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: under the insects cuticle, which is that exoskeletal structure that

921
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: functions as their skin. So often these into pathogenic fungi

922
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: will use enzymes to bore holes into the insects body

923
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: and then grow throughout the body. Cavity.

924
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Chemical warfare, Now exactly how we're going to beat the

925
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: boss of chemicals. Sweet all right, bring us home atimopathogenic

926
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: fung guy, let's get there.

927
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes you will see like insects barely managing to crawl

928
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: around where half of them have been eaten by some

929
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: kind of fungus. Usually it'll be like a white or

930
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: gray fuzzy mold. It's so creepy. So, like you mentioned,

931
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: cordyceps can infect ant brains and cause them to climb

932
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: up tree branches, like dig into the branch with their

933
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: manibles to get a nice secure hold before they die

934
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: in spectacular fashion as a fruiting body of the fungus

935
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: just explodes from their head. So we've got a lot

936
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: of really interesting species of intomopathogenic fungi, but we want

937
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: one that will be really bad for blowflies, right, because

938
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: we've got these two her minions, the lady dimitrisk who's

939
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: minions turn into a swarm of blowflies, which is hard

940
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: to stab with a knife.

941
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: It's hard to fight, okay, so, but it presents a

942
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 2: unique weakness, right, you can exploit. That's interesting. I would

943
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: have not thought about using kind of turning it's it's

944
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: special ability against itself. Yes, we exactly so. Uh.

945
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: The there's this species of anentomopathogenic fungi called Bovaria bassiana,

946
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: which is a beautiful name. I feel like it like

947
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: sounds sounds like one of these names from resident Evil

948
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: to me, like lady Dimitrisciu. It's like the Bovaria bassiana fungus.

949
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Uh coming in to a right?

950
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. Maybe that's how they got their names. Right.

951
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: If you look up the demetrisou fungus, maybe that's a thing.

952
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: Who knows. Uh.

953
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: So, this fungus, with its beautiful name, is very dangerous

954
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: to blowflies. It is so efficient at killing blowflies and

955
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: other species of flies and pests. It is often used

956
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: as a biological pest decide so it grows throughout the insect,

957
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: leaving behind a hollowed out carcass covered in white mold,

958
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: which often collects and spills out at the joints, if

959
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: not completely overwhelming the carcass of the insects. So I

960
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: have included a picture of a blowfly that looks like

961
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: it's just covered in white fluff.

962
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: I see, it looks like it like it's covered in

963
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: snow or something. Yeah, just when it like tumbled down

964
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: a mountain and.

965
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: Right like in a cartoon, exactly exactly. But no, that

966
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: is white mold that has completely subsumed and devoured this

967
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 1: poor little blowfly. I think this fungus would make quick

968
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: work of the minions and so onto killing Lady Dmitrisci herself.

969
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

970
00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: So, I looked up on another fan wiki thing because

971
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: I have not played these games. I'm a fake nerd.

972
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: I just don't know.

973
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: I haven't played bad game either.

974
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: I simply do not have a PS five or whatever

975
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: you would need for these games.

976
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: PS five is pretty hard to come vice. I don't

977
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: blame you, so uh.

978
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: The fictional Cadou parasite is a parasitic nematode spliced with

979
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: this mysterious powerful mold that causes all these human mutations

980
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: in the resident evil world. So, while the game version

981
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: of the parasitic parasitic nematode isn't necessarily that accurate in

982
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: terms of like, you can't really just splice its DNA

983
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: with mold. I don't. It's two different kingdoms, guys.

984
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: Different for sure.

985
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are real life parasitic nematodes, and of

986
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: course there are real life predators of nematods, and some

987
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: of those predators are mushrooms. It all comes back to mushrooms.

988
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: So in the Resident Evil game, to defeat the big

989
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: bad lady Dmitriskiu, I cannot pronounce that is Dmitriskiu. Is

990
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: it French?

991
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: It seems like it would be French, but I have

992
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: never studied French. I'm not going to attempt it.

993
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: It takes place in Eastern Europe, but I don't know.

994
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: Dimito I did take Russian, but it doesn't look like

995
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: a Russian name to me.

996
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't. There's not enough conflicting consonants in it, so

997
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: you but to defeat her you need a specific dagger

998
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: imbued with monster killing toxins that are never specified. But hey,

999
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: if you lose this dagger or butterfingers and drop it,

1000
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: then you're screwed. Except maybe you could just go out

1001
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: and forage for some nice oyster mushrooms. So, oyster mushrooms

1002
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: make a nice meal for humans, but they like to

1003
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: feed on nematodes. So it seems a little weird for

1004
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: something like a fungus to be a carnivore, but they

1005
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: absolutely can be. So they will use droplets of toxins

1006
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: that paralyze the nematod then slowly digest them using the hyphae,

1007
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: which are these branching filaments that take in nutrients for

1008
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: the fungus. So they're kind of like plant roots. They're

1009
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: not so fungus fungi are not plants. They don't have

1010
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: the same kinds of structures that plants do, but these

1011
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: hyphae do function a little bit like roots because they

1012
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: will suck in nutrients for the fungus.

1013
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does it find these nematods? I mean, neither.

1014
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: Live in the They live in the soil where these mushrooms.

1015
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: Are so okay, so they're just so ubiquitous that yeah.

1016
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: Where exactly. But if that doesn't sound powerful enough, like

1017
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: if you throw some oyster mushrooms at or make or

1018
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: eat some, like you don't think that's gonna work. Uh,

1019
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different mushrooms that are in line

1020
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: to kill nematoads, and they have some really dastardly methods

1021
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: of doing so. Sometimes they will have booby trapped fungal

1022
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: spores that will develop spikes and lodge themselves in the

1023
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: throats of nematodes, killing them and devouring them as they germinate.

1024
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: So the nematot will eat this a little spoor, they

1025
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: think it's delicious, and then it just like starts to

1026
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: like grow out these hyphae into the nema toad's throat

1027
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: and just devours it completely. There's also you could gift

1028
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: a lady Dimitrisku with a necklace of giant arthrow bottyrs.

1029
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: So so arthrow botyrus is perfect for killing a vampiric

1030
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: nematod mutant with a sense of fashion. Uh, because arthrow

1031
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: bootyrus uses fungal spores shaped like necklaces that ensnare nematodes

1032
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: and shoots spikes into the nematod's body as it grows

1033
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: into it and devours them. So you've got options, is

1034
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1035
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, so we have chemical warfare, we have these

1036
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: booby traps, we have so many These fungus are definitely

1037
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: equipped to do some damage for sure.

1038
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the game, you have this mysterious mold that

1039
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 1: gives them all these powers. It's like, well, guys, there's

1040
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: like more than one species of mold out there. There

1041
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: are many fungi out there ready to party, so you know,

1042
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: mutually assured fungus destruction that could definitely take out some

1043
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: of these vampire queens. I don't know, what do you think, Uh,

1044
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 1: do you think these animals could indeed defeat these video

1045
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: game bosses or which of these bosses do you think

1046
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: would actually come out on top.

1047
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: Bowser is definitely, like I would say, fairly evenly mashed.

1048
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: For the crocodile, Yeah, he's got a chance. He's so spicy.

1049
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of ways Bowser can deal damage.

1050
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: But I think if the crocodile's playing his cards right,

1051
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: it could certainly get a good strike on Bowser's weak

1052
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: point or one of his limbs.

1053
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a fair Yeah, it is.

1054
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: Bowser's bigger.

1055
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but nobody's for the situation.

1056
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: Potentially not for the Deep Sea Vortex boss. Vortex Queen,

1057
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: is that what that thing's just in for a world

1058
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: to hurt? If what you're doing is going to come

1059
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: to pass. If these parasites actually can do what you said,

1060
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: uh to the alien creature, I would not want to

1061
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: be that. I think it has no chance.

1062
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: I feel like it would just be psyched out after

1063
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: the first attack.

1064
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was, if I was the vortex queen,

1065
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'll find another planet. It's fine. You

1066
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: can keep your keep your parasites to yourself, dolphins.

1067
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: And your weird eyeball parasites.

1068
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: Exactly. As for vampire lady, I think if you can

1069
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: get the fungus to be the vampire, then you certainly

1070
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: got got a shot, right. Yeah, but considering they're not motile,

1071
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: you need a good of delivering me, right, fungal based toxins,

1072
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: and and.

1073
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: You got to put them in a salad, you know,

1074
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: a nice salad and be like here, sure, nice salad.

1075
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: I know you drink blood primarily, but you know it's

1076
01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: good to get some fiber.

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: Very true, very true. I would not. I'm curious to

1078
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: see how that affects their digestive tract these vamifires.

1079
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: Do vampires need fiber?

1080
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't want to have no fiber

1081
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: in my diet. So yeah, and blood sounds like it

1082
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have much, so I don't think so, No, it'd

1083
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: be tough.

1084
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's gonna do it for video game bosses.

1085
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: I think honestly they're going to have a tough time

1086
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: against these animals. But before we go, I do want

1087
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: to reveal the answer to last week's guess Who's talking

1088
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: mystery animal sound game. So every week I play a

1089
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: mystery animal sound at the end of the episode, and

1090
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: you all try to guess what is making that sound.

1091
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: And so the hint for last week was that this

1092
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: may sound like a machine gun, but unless you're an insect,

1093
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: the only thing you'll really have to worry about is

1094
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: getting smacked in the face by its enormous beautiful tail.

1095
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: To me, that sounds like a like a blaster from

1096
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: like a video game.

1097
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: Like a yeah it does a laser gun. Yeah.

1098
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: What do you think is making that sound?

1099
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 2: I think it's gotta be some sort of like mocking

1100
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: bird h or maybe a parrot, some sort of really

1101
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: really good mimic of sounds my experience tend to be birds.

1102
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: Well, that is a great guess because the answer is

1103
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: that this is the mating cull of a brown sickle bill,

1104
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: which is a beautiful bird of paradise found in New Guinea.

1105
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: Females have a rusty red head and a black body,

1106
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: whereas males have bright blue spots on their backs and

1107
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: white underbellies and super long ornamental tails that are gorgeous,

1108
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: and they are just such a fancy looking bird to

1109
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: be making like machine gun noises. I find the difference

1110
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: in their overall appearance is like, oh, it's a beautiful

1111
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: bird of paradise, and.

1112
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: Then just like right, that's super interesting. It's just out

1113
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: of nowhere, like how did they think of that? Sound?

1114
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 1: To Rake, Congratulations to the first three listeners to guess correctly, Abby,

1115
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: m Anda, La and Jesse Asika. Great job you guys.

1116
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys are better at this game

1117
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: than I would be if I was playing on the

1118
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: other end. So really, great job you guys. I have

1119
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: such smart listeners. Now onto our next mystery animal sound

1120
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: for next week. The hint is that it sounds like

1121
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: a collaboration between a biologist, a heavy metal band, and

1122
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: a hairdresser. So do you have any guesses for what

1123
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: this mystery animal is?

1124
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to say it's a verd again,

1125
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: it sounds like, I don't know a parrot. It's like

1126
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 2: a really angry parrot. My grandma had a parrot and

1127
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: it was always making super weird loud noises. Yeah. Yeah,

1128
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: so I'm going to go with some sort of parrot

1129
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: or some kind.

1130
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: Of angry parrot. Well, the answer will be revealed next

1131
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 1: week if you tune in the day Work Creature feature.

1132
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: That's how I get you.

1133
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: All right, I'll be there, I gotta know.

1134
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining me today, patch.

1135
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: So welcome, thanks for having me.

1136
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:33,520
Speaker 1: The tiers Zoo YouTube channel is absolutely amazing, really wonderful

1137
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: way to learn about some evolutionary biology and feel like

1138
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: you're playing a video game.

1139
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: So glad you like it.

1140
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: Other than the YouTube channel, where can people find you?

1141
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so YouTube dot com, slash tearszoo. You can also

1142
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: find me on Twitter at at at tearszoo. I'm also

1143
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: I also have a few things on TikTok Instagram. If

1144
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: you just search teers that you should be able to

1145
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 2: find them. But that's about it. That's uh, the extent

1146
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 2: of my online presence.

1147
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think it's pretty good to

1148
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, and you can find if you want

1149
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: to write in what you think the answer is to

1150
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: the mystery animal sound or any of your questions or

1151
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: comments or concerns. You can write at Creature Featurepod at

1152
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 1: gmail dot com, Creature feature Pod on Instagram, or Creature

1153
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: feet Pod on Twitter. That's FE eighteen, not feeteen. That

1154
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: is something very different and uh, thank you so much

1155
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: for listening. If you want to rate or review the podcast,

1156
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: I read all the reviews and they bring so much

1157
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: joy to my heart. And thanks to the Space Cossics

1158
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1159
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1161
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Speaker 2: Or Hey guess what where?

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