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Speaker 1: Wow, what an amazing stadium. Thank you, is Aaron Judges

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Speaker 1: ty here?

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Speaker 2: Yet markets are moving a little bit, markets are moving

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I was wearing for crats, something.

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Speaker 2: For listening on audio crats like did the like the

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Speaker 2: tiny tiny gesture, tiny hand gesture. When you start to

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Speaker 2: see some relievers sign which we've actually seen quite a

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Speaker 2: few in the last seventy two hours, then what happens krats,

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Speaker 2: among other things, is teams say, okay, this is the price.

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Speaker 2: Let's all rush to the phones and offer the similar

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Speaker 2: price based on what the prior player got that set

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to pay too much. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any of these pictures are important enough

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Speaker 1: to pay too much for. So what do I need?

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Speaker 1: What do I need a closer? What do I need

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Speaker 1: an eighth inning guy for? We'll just find somebody else.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, one team likes to go against the grain,

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Speaker 2: actually multiple but let's cover the royals at the top here.

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Speaker 2: Let's charge them mound.

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Speaker 1: Charge.

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Speaker 2: Carlos Estevez was one of the better relievers available on

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Speaker 2: the market. Two years, twenty two point two million is guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: There's a club option for Kansas City to be able

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Speaker 2: to tack on for twenty twenty seven. That would make

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Speaker 2: it three years, thirty three million dollars. So it's either

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Speaker 2: Carlos Stevez was damn good with the Angels. He was

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Speaker 2: pretty good with the Phillies. Had really good you know,

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Speaker 2: basic numbers, underlying numbers, pretty good, the walk rates really good.

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Speaker 2: A little different, like he might not have the best

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Speaker 2: stuff in the bullpen, but it's pretty high up there.

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Speaker 2: And the one difference for me, Todd father with someone

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Speaker 2: maybe a little more consistency to that game.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the most important thing. I mean, you do

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Speaker 3: have some guys coming in here, you know, trying to

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a great pickup here. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to ask Cratsy after this what he really

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Speaker 3: thought that what Carlos should have made you know, is

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Speaker 3: it a steal? Is it not? I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: conversation we need to have. I think a guy of

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Speaker 3: had some really good signings and I think this is

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Speaker 3: as a good one. I do think it's a steal

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Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna have a great year, and

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Speaker 3: I think with the Royals on the trajectory that they're going,

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Speaker 3: it's a great pickup, especially this late in spring training.

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Speaker 1: Price wise, I don't know. I mean to me, I

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Speaker 1: feel like, if you're getting somebody under thirteen thirteen million

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Speaker 1: think in twenty three good year. Last year was in

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Speaker 1: the Pennant Race. You know, I guess I get it,

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Speaker 1: you get the Grand Slam to Lindor. But this is

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Speaker 1: a dude that if you're getting for under thirteen a year,

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Speaker 1: because kind of that's where we're at with relievers. You know,

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Speaker 1: Yates was in that range, Presley was more, but then

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Speaker 1: they paid off some of the money. The Astros paid

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Speaker 1: like talk about optimizing your value. Just like Scott said,

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Speaker 1: he's not just elite dominant stuff. He's just the elite dominant,

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Speaker 1: get the job done, and he's going to a huge ballpark.

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Speaker 1: So if there's a place where you're like, man, where

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Speaker 1: guy that would really help a team? Oh wait, that

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Speaker 1: it's just really tough to do against. I just I

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Speaker 1: think it is a great pickup. I think he's okay

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Speaker 1: an underpay great job and another great move by the Royals.

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Speaker 1: And back to back years.

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Speaker 2: Here, remember Kratz. Last year the Royals had a bullpen problem.

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Speaker 2: They were good, they were surprisingly good, and we were like,

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Speaker 2: They got Ersig from the A's and he's under team

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Speaker 2: control still for years, enough years that I don't even

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Speaker 2: in the past you know, eight months, they just fixed

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Speaker 2: the back end of the bullpen with these two moves,

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Speaker 2: Hunter Harvey's got good stuff. Streiber I think was pretty

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Speaker 2: good for them last year. But this is as a

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Speaker 1: I think. I think it's more more than just like

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Speaker 1: you might, you glossed over it, but people weren't listening.

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Speaker 1: They had a bullpen issue. They had a bullpen issue

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Speaker 1: during the season. They addressed it at the at the

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Speaker 1: All Star break, at the trade deadline. Like teams that

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Speaker 1: not afraid. They were not afraid to go make moves.

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Speaker 1: And now they added to it again, similar to the

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Speaker 1: the Guardians adding Paul Seawall to their strength and their bullpen.

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Speaker 1: So this is again I just don't see. My My

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Speaker 1: Where were the Yankees with this deal? Are they really

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Speaker 4: can always add to this team for a let a

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Speaker 2: I think it actually hurt the reliever market ready for this,

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Speaker 2: So last year the Padres had a super bullpen. Then

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Speaker 2: They got Jason Adam, they got help me Tanner Scott. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they were one win over the Dodgers from in my

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Speaker 2: They've got the perfect model. They've got a really good team,

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Speaker 2: but they have a super bullpen. It is the best

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Speaker 2: we would think even more about Cleveland too, even though

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Speaker 2: When you look at those two teams, you're like, there's

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers bullpen was great too, and they actually were

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Speaker 2: you buy into that theory at all Kratz that the

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Speaker 2: this guy, let's let's just pile together, you know, forty

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Speaker 1: So you're saying instead of getting the one big guy,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying Tanner Scott, who might be in a little

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Speaker 2: The Braves have done a little bit of this in

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Speaker 2: Kratz's point about the Orioles. I'm like, what if the

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Speaker 2: a much sexier team to meet what they actually put

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Speaker 3: Agreed, And I think I want to break down a

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Speaker 3: couple of things. If the Padres ended up win the

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Speaker 3: It would have been a whole different Padres team in

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Speaker 3: my opinion, But it didn't happen. As we all know.

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Speaker 3: You the point you bring about having finding three, four, five,

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Speaker 3: Tell me where we're at and find a way to

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Speaker 2: but you're putting one in a spot either way that

431
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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be in or that he's less

432
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Speaker 2: comfortable in.

433
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Speaker 1: Right.

434
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Speaker 2: Okay, So so just to clarify, the Astros did nothing wrong.

435
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Speaker 3: But can I just jump in here though Hater wanted

436
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Speaker 3: to be the closer and Presley wants to be the closer,

437
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 3: right or wrong, that's the problem. So when one person

438
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Speaker 3: becomes a closer, the other bun's going to be like,

439
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Speaker 3: especially after he did so well. So I see the

440
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Speaker 3: side of what Presley is talking about. Like, listen, I've

441
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Speaker 3: been I've been the top dog. I've been you know,

442
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: in World Series Championships, I've been getting last outs. You know,

443
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Speaker 3: why am I? Why am I? You know? It's him

444
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Speaker 3: or I kind of deal. But I know Presley, he's

445
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Speaker 3: a he's a veteran. He understands, he's not going to

446
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: say much. But in that situation, it's all you got

447
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,959
Speaker 3: to pick one or the other. Yeah, that's and they

448
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 3: didn't pick me, meaning you know, so I'm not trying

449
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: to argue be that person. But he's got feelings, I guess.

450
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to understand it.

451
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Speaker 2: I get like the alpha dog mentality, but I'm saying,

452
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Speaker 2: what did the astros do? So if they pick up nothing,

453
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: they pick up pay her? Okay, And I'm on the

454
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: phone with you and you're pressing, I'm like, and they

455
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: did give him heads up, but they didn't say, like,

456
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: can we acquire him? They were like, we're going to

457
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: We're just letting you know that he's probably gonna be

458
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Speaker 2: our guy for the ninth next year.

459
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Speaker 3: Right.

460
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Speaker 2: So if I'm on the phone and I'm like, are

461
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Speaker 2: you cool with that? And you're like, man, I don't

462
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Speaker 2: really love that.

463
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Speaker 3: What do you want us to do?

464
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Speaker 2: If you want us to not sign the player and

465
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Speaker 2: put us in a worst position, we feel like there's

466
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Speaker 2: value here.

467
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Speaker 3: On the market.

468
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Speaker 2: You guys are just saying it is what it is.

469
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Speaker 2: This is just the nature of a competitive player who

470
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: had a position for a while within a team and

471
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Speaker 2: he had to change roles.

472
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Speaker 1: Everybody gets everybody gets replaced, everybody gets replaced, and when

473
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Speaker 1: that stuff happens, you got to look at it and

474
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Speaker 1: be like, well, I'm not spending another five years here.

475
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Speaker 1: So I get what the Orc's trying to do. And

476
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Speaker 1: you know what I get two years with this dude,

477
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Speaker 1: I get two years with the best reliever in baseball

478
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Speaker 1: added to our core. That's down there. I'm game with it.

479
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: Whether it was that fast, no, it probably took a

480
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Speaker 1: few days. But again, you don't have to build that relation.

481
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: Dana Brown and Ryan Presley do not have to be friends.

482
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Speaker 1: Like that's not a that's like, you don't have to

483
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Speaker 1: be friends with your GM. Now your manager and you

484
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: you got to talk it out. Joe Aspata did a

485
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: good job supposedly about sitting them down and talking them

486
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Speaker 1: through it. So that's a relationship. I think that needs

487
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Speaker 1: to be mended and talked through. But your GM, you

488
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: could never talk to your GM, and you guys win

489
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Speaker 1: a World Series easy pas yep.

490
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Speaker 2: Well, of course there's some gms that are around all

491
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Speaker 2: the time and some that barely talk to players. We

492
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Speaker 2: can do a whole segment on that. But in the meantime,

493
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Speaker 2: and by the way, what was I gonna say? Oh,

494
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Speaker 2: Joe Aspata did also mention how you know things got

495
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Speaker 2: fractured a little after that part too, just drawing that

496
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Speaker 2: out there. Yet, there was a lot to it, and

497
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: they had a super slow start, but obviously picked it

498
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: picked it up, didn't get the job done in the

499
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: playoffs because of the Tigers. So let's hit the Tigers

500
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Speaker 2: for a few minutes. Cody Stavenhagen, host oh Tiger Territory

501
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: and the Athletic Tigers beat writer said or posted at

502
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Speaker 2: Scott Haires quote said, I think the bullpen in our

503
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: lineup are two areas that we are going to look

504
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: to upgrade if we can. But we also loved our

505
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: depth on both sides of the ball. I love always

506
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: throwing that line after there, but just in case we

507
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Speaker 2: don't get anyone, please don't kill me. But I'm a

508
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 2: big fan of that move. I'm still a little bit

509
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: underwhelmed with their offseason, coming off such a successful year

510
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: and to me, a division that can be taken, and

511
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: the Tigers had like a little smoke and mirrors action. A. J.

512
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: Hinch even told us that this past weekend to how

513
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: they put everything together to say, season after season, you're

514
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: going to have schoobl and the rest. It's just tough.

515
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Speaker 2: So I like the Glave Torres edition. I think he

516
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: could have a nice replatform season for Detroit. Cainley cool

517
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: Alex Cobb for some veteran depth, so we're getting there.

518
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Speaker 2: But I thought that they were one of those locks

519
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: to get one of the big boys. And Bregman still

520
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: out there, so it still could happen. But I just

521
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: figured Detroit was going to go down that route and

522
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Speaker 2: didn't realize that they had so much PTSD about the

523
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Speaker 2: big money giving out to hobby bias.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, listen from what I saw last year

525
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: with the Tigers and how they came through and took

526
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Speaker 3: care of Houston. I was a masterpiece of what they

527
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: did of putting guys in understand, Listen, no no eye

528
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: guys on this team. One guy would bat first, and

529
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Speaker 3: then the next time he'd bat seventh, he'd bat ninth.

530
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Speaker 3: One game, it just depended on who was pitching, and

531
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Speaker 3: then they figured out what pitchers need to throw in

532
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: what innings and it worked to perfection. And yeah, I

533
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: was thinking, like I, when are they gonna get this big?

534
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: This offseason gonna be great because they got the guys

535
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Speaker 3: in each position. Now you need a big dog to

536
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: come in as well and be a dominant pitcher, uh,

537
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: a reliever. They got Canley, of course, but that that

538
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: one guy that I just feel like they're missing, and

539
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, we don't have much time off Scotty. We

540
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. There's still opportunities to

541
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: grab guys. It's still a destination right now where people

542
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: want to go. Yeah, is it cold. It's not fun

543
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: to play in that that that stadium when it's freezing,

544
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 3: But it's baseball at the end of the day. And

545
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: I think what they have going there is really really

546
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: fun and we're gonna see it fun for a lot

547
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Speaker 3: of years.

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a good core. I just I want

549
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: flarity and I want pregnant, because that's what we do

550
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: on this show. We spend money of other ball clubs.

551
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: But if you look at their payroll compared to what

552
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: it used to be, you're like, yeah, they can definitely

553
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: add those two guys. Anyway, let's give you a little

554
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Speaker 2: bite from uh wait, was it Parker Meadows on It

555
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: was like about to say, Austin, I got my Austin

556
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Speaker 2: my park.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm calling it Ryan Presley, Alex Presley. They're

558
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: not even close to being brothers.

559
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Speaker 2: That's your former Pirates teammate probably. But anyway, let's get

560
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Speaker 2: Parker on Tiger Territory with a few words here.

561
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Speaker 5: I want to know what is that locker room? Like,

562
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 5: what type of dude is Parker Meadows in the locker room?

563
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: I was a straight clown, bro, so so what's park

564
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 5: of Meadows like in the in the clubhouse.

565
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 6: I'm a little bit of a clown too. I don't

566
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 6: like to take everything too serious, but I'm usually the

567
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 6: quiet guy that kind of observes the room and sees

568
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 6: what the vibes like, and once I recognize the vibes,

569
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Speaker 6: I'll kind of fall into place with that. I'm pretty

570
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 6: aware of what's going on. But I'm pretty good at

571
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 6: ping pong. We play ping pong a lot. I'm up

572
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 6: there on the leaderboard for ping pong. Others will probably disagree, but.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I don't know.

574
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: I like to have fun.

575
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 6: I like to try to keep everybody loose.

576
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Nice Parker Meadows, who had, you know, a much better

577
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: second half. You know, he was struggling against the breaking balls,

578
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: which was the same problem the year before, also just

579
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: came back when I was a little more aggressive.

580
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: Who doesn't struggle against breaking ball? No, I know, I know.

581
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm just say yeah, I never could.

582
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: I struggled with them in Little league, so that was

583
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: it for me.

584
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: You still struggle with breaking ball.

585
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: I still do.

586
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a conversation. We're gonna go down here

587
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: in the lab. We're gonna work. But yeah, breaking balls

588
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: are hard to I think I was probably like a

589
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: one fifty average against all speed pitchers. But when they

590
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 3: threw me that fastball, like Cratzy thought he could sneak

591
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: the cheese by the rats. Sometimes all of a sudden

592
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, you know, the glove goes down. Damn.

593
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: I never I never took my off that fastball.

594
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: I like this Tiger's team more obviously on the Tigers

595
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: on Tiger Territory. So make sure you check out the show.

596
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Look it up wherever you watch your team shows. We're

597
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: getting ready for Ti, Oscar Hernandez too. There's your Tiger

598
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 2: Territory part of the FT Network. And if you're look

599
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: into your right and you're like, hey Jackson, that's Austin Jackson,

600
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: mister nice man with the grizzly beard. Part of that

601
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: Kieren Steckley, Cody Stavenhagen crew, go give it a look

602
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: and listen. The ultimate teaser. I saw this the other

603
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: day from Ryan Divish. The Mariners signed Louis Castillo, and

604
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: then people were confused, but it's a different Louis Castillo.

605
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: And if anything, when I see Mariners and Louis Castillo,

606
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys are, but notifications in

607
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: the off season, I'm immediately going, where's he going? Because

608
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: he's been in trade rumors now comb and I was like, ah,

609
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: this is just one of those cute little baby signings

610
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: that are being put out there. There's Hayman signing Luis F. Castillo,

611
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: a right handed pitcher, not to be confused with Louis M. Castillo.

612
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: They're all star, righty, it's minor league contract, MLB camp invite.

613
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: He was with Chibilate and Orrix the last couple of

614
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: years over in Japan.

615
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see how this goes.

616
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's not you know, you know what they

617
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: say when you enter that clubhouse. It's a clubhouse. I'm

618
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: big enough for to Louis Castillos.

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Speaker 3: I think of the combio is they're a good combio

620
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Speaker 3: in there, right? Can he be?

621
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Speaker 2: Castillo? Ste might not be on the opening day roster

622
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: film for the Mariners. A good one, Well, yeah, you

623
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: might get traded.

624
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: A good one. I like that there prove it more

625
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: proven one, Yeah, yeah, I want you to say that

626
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 3: the Louis which one.

627
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: Dude, you're amazing, you're a big league ballplayer, but you're

628
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: not Louise m.

629
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Speaker 3: I hope he is.

630
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: Do you think he gets traded Kratz we call.

631
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Speaker 3: Traded.

632
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Speaker 1: I don't. The only the only reason I don't is

633
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: because I don't think teams just watching the whole Stroman

634
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Saga and even even to the Presley Saga team are

635
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: just in trades. They're looking for that contract to just

636
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: be sliced. They just want they don't want to pay it,

637
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: even though I think Luis castell is a twenty four

638
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: million dollars a year pitcher right now. Like to me,

639
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: there should be teams lined up, there should be the

640
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Orioles lined up, But I just think they're they don't

641
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: want it. I don't think the match will happen. I

642
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: just think the teams aren't gonna line up because nobody's

643
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna want to pay that much for some reason, and

644
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: the Mariners aren't gonna want to eat that much.

645
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm going against you. I think he gets dealt in

646
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: spring training when either an arm goes down or a

647
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: team realizes their arms are not good enough. Oma and

648
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: the chat said teams are hungry for starters. Seattle needs

649
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: better bats house Seattle not trading. Yeah, I mean, this's

650
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: gotta be tough trader. Jerry has a nickname for a reason,

651
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: but he's pretty hamstrung. I do hope that they do something.

652
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: I just think they need to switch it up a

653
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: little bit. There's not been much activity in Seattle.

654
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: But when you got a good the pitching staff, for

655
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: people talking about how good they are, it's tough to

656
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: get rid of those good pitching. Beat's good hitting all day.

657
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: It's not working.

658
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow, he's back.

659
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: Not let's hit the office. Let's hit the office.

660
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: Can I can I help to present the case here

661
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: because I'm going to you're in person, so let me

662
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: take a seat to father to father. All right. You know,

663
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: I got a little problem here. I'm an executive that's

664
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: part of the Tonto front office. I'm not going to

665
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: say who I am. I could be a GM, I

666
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: could be assistant GYM.

667
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Don't show your name on here. I don't you.

668
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything. But you know we're

669
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: having trouble consistently recruiting players to sign with us.

670
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: Notebook place.

671
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is something where you probably need to write

672
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: this down because there's a lot to it. And if

673
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: I start to tell you the intricacies of some of

674
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: the offers that we put together, you're going to need

675
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: to write a whole book just on that Anthony Santander

676
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: deferred contract. So the Jays keep going to the ten

677
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: yard line and then they miss so. Andy Martino, who

678
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: covers the Mets in depth, said that the Jays got

679
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: close last week with Alonzo, but it didn't get finalized,

680
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: hence the potential pivot back towards the Mets. It sounds

681
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of deferral action going on. The

682
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Blue Jays are trying to do their Dodger impressions. So

683
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: how do we get the deal done more consistently. We've

684
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: done a few things. We got ourselves, Jeff Hoffman, and

685
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: we got Anthony Santander. But of course that's not good

686
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: enough for a playoff team this year.

687
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: Here, here, here's the problem when teams are when agents

688
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: come to you, I know you don't want to give

689
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: them the best offer listen, or want to give them

690
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: the offer you really want to do. You want to

691
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: hear what they're doing, but sometimes you got to bite

692
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: the bullet. You got to get out of the way

693
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: and say, listen, we understand this is what you want.

694
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: We're going to go a little more, do you How

695
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: do you like that?

696
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: Pay more? Though, because it's it's just on our show.

697
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: It said that they offer market value just like everyone else.

698
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: They can't. You can't do that anymore. People don't want

699
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: to go up there. It's just the way it is.

700
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: People don't want to go up to Canada. Some guys

701
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: are afraid to. I don't get it. I like Canada.

702
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't have like grizzly bears with no syrp, no ballpark.

703
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: They're in the woods.

704
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: Is it an advertising place to go to? I don't

705
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: think so. Not anymore. These guys, they for some reason,

706
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: they will think about it. Toronto will keep them in

707
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: the back of our minds in case this deal doesn't

708
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: go through. Well, why Toronto starts spending a little morning.

709
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: You know me, money's vital to me. I gotta make

710
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: sure I got minds and you got to make sure

711
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: you got yours. So so understand, make it a little

712
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: more appetizing, that's all so.

713
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: Because our taxes are higher up there, we need to

714
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: pay a player just a little bit more.

715
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: Of the listen, five years for one hundred million, five years,

716
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten million. What's the big difference? Ten

717
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: million dollars? Is that a difference? It's a big It's a.

718
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: Difference, but not much, since you know, we're a massive telecommunication.

719
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: Anthony Santander, Jeff Hoffmin. They got the players, they need

720
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: one more. Peter Lonzo, You're still in the mix, but

721
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a few calls. Eric, don't tell anybody

722
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: about this. The problem will be fixed sooner than later.

723
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I feel like Todd. I feel like Todd kind of

724
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: has some family that works with the Jays, the fact

725
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: that they like swindle swindle their money like around like, oh,

726
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: you know what, the loonies and tunis a Canadian dollars

727
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: strong this year, we're gonna get three percent of your

728
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: paycheck in loonies and tunies and forty percent and when

729
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: the dollar is strong, we're gonna give you sixty percent

730
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: of dollar. Like it's like it's right up, it's right

731
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: up your people's alley there, Todd, make sure make sure

732
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: I get Yeah, your people, you know what I'm talking about.

733
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: Listen, you're gonna get a call after the show. Hey,

734
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: you better be careful.

735
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm driving out there tomorrow. If everybody wants to come

736
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: and see me, they can come and see you.

737
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: Don't say that. Don't you say that?

738
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: Well now we know now, lok.

739
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: You better digress.

740
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't digress. I don't back down. I'm Amish.

741
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't mess with the Amish. They're good people.

742
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: We like the Amish.

743
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: There's another good point here from the chat. The Blue

744
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: Jays need to win and use that as an appealing

745
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: pitch for free agency. So here's the other factor. Okay,

746
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: because I feel like sometimes this show gets a bad rep.

747
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: They it's a good rep with some teams, a bad

748
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: rep with others. Where really, I promise you we don't

749
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: give a flying bleep about which team is thriving or not.

750
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: We want in generally cool storylines. We actually want teams

751
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: that have been struggling for a minute to find success.

752
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: So with a club like Toronto, they need to show

753
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: that they're a good team. Good farm system helps. If

754
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: everything's the same and it's todd that's where players will

755
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: start to look at things. So I have to deal

756
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: with customs. It's just a fact of life, and it's.

757
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: About family too. Yeah, well, my wife, my kids, my

758
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: you know, some have to stay for school in the

759
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: United States. Some God, don't worry. We homeschool will be

760
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: all right. It's that mismatch. There's a whole lot of

761
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: stuff that goes on leaving the country for sure.

762
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: Ten million bucks more. That certainly helps to figure out

763
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: the school system.

764
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get a nanny, then you can bring somebody

765
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: with you.

766
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: Exactly, popcorner quickly here. First off, poll results, which of

767
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: these teams is best in the NL Central. You're only

768
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: allowed to put four options, so we went Brewers, Cubs, Reds, Pirates. Oh,

769
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I guess we didn't include the Cardinals. I would have

770
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: not included the Pirates, but I don't want to think

771
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: with both of them.

772
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: No, Cardinals are worse.

773
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: Are I think the Cardinals are worse than the Pirates

774
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: this coming season?

775
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: No?

776
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: No, well that's gonna be a good one.

777
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Cardinals over Pirates. You might have to place a friendly

778
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: wager on that one. But anyway, Reds Cubs, Brewers, Who

779
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: do you think is the best?

780
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: We talked about the Reds, but you haven't beat the

781
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: Brewers yet, so I'm gonna stick with the Brewers. Right

782
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: as of right now.

783
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's.

784
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: Red should win this, but I'm sticking with the Brewers

785
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: just on past events.

786
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: Crats you got you got to beat the Brewers, but

787
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: I think the Reds have the Brewers have done enough.

788
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well, the Brewers won the poll and then the

789
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: Cobs got second, Red's got third. I voted for the Reds.

790
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: I haven't decided, but for now I'm going Reds next up.

791
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: Susan Sluster reported on Rob Manfred touring the a's new

792
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: home ballpark in Sacramento with John Fisher and Vivek. I

793
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: don't know how to say his last name, but the

794
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: dude who owns the Kings, who I'm sure got a

795
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: little FaceTime with the big boys with the league to

796
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: try and talk them into staying. But anyway, apparently there

797
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: have been some issues there. There's going to be a

798
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: three week road trip to resurface the field in June

799
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: for their minor league team so they can get it

800
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: together because that field's going to take a beating. It

801
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: was not made for that initially. Also apparently last yearne

802
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: construction workers mistakenly started drilling into a weight room with

803
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: a picture working out on the other side of it

804
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: from somebody who actually was involved in a little accident

805
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: once where they were doing construction a place they shouldn't

806
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: and a ceiling collapsed on my body. Yeah that's pretty scary. Yeah,

807
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: true story. Don't have time for it right now, but

808
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: another time. But anyway, hopefully they get their ish together.

809
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: This is how Rob toured Wow the stadium. Thank you?

810
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Is Aaron Judge or Sho Tani here?

811
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: Yet?

812
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: I do think he goes because he has to be

813
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: able to tell players face to face. I went there

814
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: and it looks good enough, So deal with it, like

815
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: you got to go there one time and say that

816
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: you were there, and I know that. You know, the

817
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: players on the other side are gonna be like, yo,

818
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: we need conditions to be up to this standard. So

819
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: we'll see, well, we'll let it play out. We'll see

820
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: what it looks like, and then next up, let's just

821
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: get to let's pick one rumor from Kenny ballgame here.

822
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: Let's because we're gonna talk to Rosenthal tomorrow. But just

823
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: a quick thought on the Reds and White Sox talking

824
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: but not ending up at deal status. I know we

825
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: talked to Jim Bowden about it. How badly do you

826
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: think the Red should push or do you think they're

827
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: better off just waiting for that price to go down

828
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: to one high end prospect and not too.

829
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: Man.

830
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: I just think this is the time if they if

831
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: they feel like Louise Robert is the twenty twenty three

832
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: Luis Robert, and they can unlock that, this is the

833
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: time to make the move. If they don't. And the

834
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: concerns we brought up with Jim Bowden are legitimate. He's

835
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: seeing the exact same things I'm seeing, like, you need

836
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: this guy one under committed because he can play at

837
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: eighty percent health. Everybody talks about health. He's that talented

838
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: to me, you add that to that lineup with Ellie

839
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: whole Baby and I think I think you talk about

840
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: a team that could enjoy or that could really bring

841
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: him into the fold. Ellie is another Latin player. To me,

842
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: that's a thing. He's a superstar. So there's that connection

843
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: there that would help him improve.

844
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: Well said, Well said, I agreed, he would have a

845
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: lot of homers at this stadium, So UH put a

846
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: lot of lot of things in perspective. You know, is

847
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: he going to be that workhorse? That's that's my biggest issue.

848
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 3: Can't be any doubt in hustle and energy and emotion, enthusiasm,

849
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I don't know.

850
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: But if you're buying stock and you do believe in

851
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: the player, this is the time to try and do

852
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: it now. If the asking price is too high, it

853
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: is what it is, okay. But if he ends up

854
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: starring in the first half of the season, there are

855
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of other teams involved. It

856
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: just makes them more difficult. It's both sides of the

857
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: coin here. I could also see a trade happening in

858
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: a few weeks where you kind of get pushed to shove,

859
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: don't want to risk it. They're like, let's do this,

860
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: because they did that last year with Dylan Cees. They

861
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: waited until March thirteenth and then they traded him to

862
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: the Padres. So we'll see at MGM futures. Let's hit

863
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: the Rays eighty point five on the win total for

864
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay half and half, so it's a little under

865
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: the five hundred mark. They just signed Hasung Kim. You

866
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: weren't on with this yesterday, Todd follow I heard a

867
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: surprising little addition for the Rays and their highest paid

868
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: player of course, now and They're coming off in eighty

869
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: one in last year. So at MGM is like, I

870
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: challenge you do they go one up, one down? What

871
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: are we thinking?

872
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: They're playing at a new spot too?

873
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

874
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: More offense there, oh man.

875
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: I feel like you can never count those Rays out

876
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: for getting eighty eighty wins. Man.

877
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: But then I think, is you got to.

878
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: Pick at least one or two teams that are gonna

879
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: suck in the division because not every team's gonna win

880
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: eighty some odd games. So I'm okay with going over

881
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: on the Rays, and I feel like I might do that,

882
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: but I do have to be honest with myself and

883
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: be like, who's gonna suck in the division.

884
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: It's a tough one man.

885
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: Right now, For me, it's it's Toronto, it's any team, man.

886
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: And I know Kratzy probably would agree with that. He's

887
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: he's I don't know. I don't see I don't see

888
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: him getting over eighty. I don't see it. I see

889
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: under five hundred. I see him battling. But the division

890
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: is just too tough. It's just too tough. And I

891
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: would I would say in the mid seventy range.

892
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Krats, I'm taking the under with Todd.

893
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: I think that's what Todd's answer was. But I'm taking

894
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: the under, but I also want to take eighty and

895
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: a half because they're playing in a minor league park.

896
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: There might be a game where you know what, guys,

897
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: like it's the end of the year, this is our

898
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: nineteenth rain out, like each of you gets a half,

899
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: So they might actually be the first team to win

900
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: eighty and a half. But I'm taking the.

901
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: I'll actually take the over. I think that the there

902
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: will be a home field advantage because it's gonna be

903
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: such a pain for others. Thought about the reschedule and

904
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: go through all the rain there and like, yeah, we

905
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: did this every day. So anyway, if you want to

906
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: play poker inside, aer Kratz is your guy. He is

907
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: digitally playing over the next few days in the Gridiron Classics,

908
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: So if you'd like to face him, you can win

909
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: a custom football jersey every night during this little run.

910
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: I entered one quick tournament last night Kratz while I

911
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: was in Jersey, and I was out very quickly, went

912
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: all in ace king against pocket aces. That is a

913
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: pretty trophy, and that is one that you won in

914
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: one of these online tournament. So good luck to you

915
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: coming up over the next few days. And I heard

916
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Todd Father might be playing in a twenty or two

917
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: as well.

918
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, tonight, right, Cratty, You and I it's a couple.

919
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: It's tonight. It's Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The Big Sunday

920
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: is the big one. Sunday's the only five hundred dollars

921
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: buy in twenty five thousand dollars pot. Let's get at onions.

922
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: Friday show will feature Ken Rosenthal, Jonathan Paplevan, and Victor

923
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: Scott the Second, the speedster for the Saint Louis Cardinals.

924
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: Young ball player with a lot of promise. Anyway, let's

925
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 2: slap so first off, let's get quick comments from everyone here.

926
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: We're going to run out of time, but let's do

927
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: this first. Adam Silver talking about how MLB is inspirational

928
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: for the NBA to make changes of their own.

929
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 7: I'm a fan of what baseball did. I'm a baseball fan,

930
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 7: and i think some of those changes have really increased

931
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 7: sort of the engagement, the entertainment value of the game,

932
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 7: and so I'm paying a lot of attention to that.

933
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 7: And in fact, I've used the pitch clock the sort

934
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 7: of the increasing the size of the base et cetera.

935
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 7: In meetings at the NBA to say, you know, if baseball,

936
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 7: which is more locked into tradition, and I don't mean

937
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 7: that negatively than any other sport, and part of what

938
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 7: baseball provides is the tradition, the legacy that if they're

939
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 7: able to make those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid

940
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 7: to look at changes as well.

941
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: And that was on the Dan Patrick Show. We like

942
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: to give credit to everyone for the hard work that

943
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: they do. Please credit your media outlets when they do

944
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: hard work and bring on great guests. Anyway, I like

945
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: the inspiration part. But for me personally Todd Father as

946
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: a long time NBA fan, I don't follow the game

947
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: that closely anymore, but I love going to games. I

948
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: don't want ten minutes.

949
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: That's too damn short.

950
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: I feel like twelve is quick. Especially by the time

951
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: you get all settled in, I'm like, damn, game's over

952
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: and they're in like a two hour fifteen ish. I

953
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: want to say a minute range. And MLB. It's the

954
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: same thing. With MLB. There was a point where they

955
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 2: were like, oh, we should go to seven innings because

956
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: these games are three hours forty minutes. Well, now we

957
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: got the time down because we got rid of the

958
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: dead time. No no, no, no, no, We're nine innings.

959
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: So I see what he's saying, But like, let's speed

960
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: up the free throws in the instant replays. I don't

961
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: want ten minute quarters.

962
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree. It's I love basket Why

963
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: I love watching it? I don't know. Maybe it's just

964
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: something they've been looking into their analytical department, something that

965
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: they have gone on of saying, Man, it's these extra

966
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: two minutes. What is that equal eight extra minutes a game?

967
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it's fast enough. But what

968
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: I'm not the expert in all this, so for them.

969
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: I like how he talks about baseball. It gives a

970
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: new outlook to baseball and how exciting and how some

971
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: people perceive baseball. And I think, as a commissioner, that's

972
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: really cool to.

973
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Hear crats wigh in and you can do krats hats.

974
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: Maybe you can do both things at the same time.

975
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: You can show your hat and tats about NBA.

976
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: There's no teams in Scranton, but there was a thread

977
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: so scrant Wilson Burke and my thing with the NBA

978
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: you want to go to a quicker game, go to

979
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: a JV high school game. Man, the rest just put

980
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 1: the whistles away. Dude, just running up and down the court,

981
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: like you don't want to go. I'm I'm against I'm

982
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: against changing, changing clocks and changing times. I'm going to

983
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: a sporting event. I'm not trying to get out of there.

984
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: I want to watch it. I was kind of against

985
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: the pitch clock. I like it now, but I was

986
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: against it because I don't really care how long the

987
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: game is. I like the game that much.

988
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: You know what they call JV basketball football.

989
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: For real? It is unbelievable.

990
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it taught me a lot about life. I value

991
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: my my ear with JV when I was able to

992
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: commit fouls that then did not work. When you got

993
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: to varsity. They were like, sir, that's a foul. I'm like, well,

994
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't about last year. They're like, welcome.

995
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: What I found.

996
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: Scott only only one year on JV. Some of some

997
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: of us had to play two years on JV. Todd didn't.

998
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: He scored a thousand points and that's all on varsity.

999
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: I played freshman, it was JV, and I probably had

1000
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 3: like fifty points. In varsity that year. But ja, yeah,

1001
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: I just read a little bit.

1002
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: Just a little bit, no big deal. There's a letter

1003
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: from Yukon recruiting him, telling them all the NBA players

1004
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: that they recently had.

1005
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: That was incredible.

1006
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Another that was freaking awesome. That's real too.

1007
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: I coached my kids. I know what I'm I know

1008
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: what I'm doing.

1009
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hoop a little all right. Lastly on

1010
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: that front, let's show todd Fathers Championship. Yes, belt Ish Championship.

1011
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: Clack. I would score a plaque. It's a monster plaque.

1012
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: It's really cool. Raised over forty eight thousand this year

1013
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: for the Children's Specialized Hospital. It was a great showing.

1014
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: We had sixty four teams. There was a buy back

1015
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: tournament where our boys from foul Territory almost won it.

1016
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: They made it to the semifinals, hoping for another good

1017
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: one next year. It was a lot of fun. There's

1018
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: too many thank you as I could do. But again,

1019
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: raised over forty eight k for the children at the

1020
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: Children's Specialized Hospital. So a lot of good money going

1021
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: to a good going to good stuff.

1022
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Congrats. I know you put a ton of hustle into

1023
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: all of that. No love it, and we left to

1024
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: support it. And so make sure you keep an eye

1025
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: on it for next year when Cratsey you're coming next year? Yeah, grats.

1026
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: You gotta make a trip now my bed on bed.

1027
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: Go make it BBW A and I'm there. Who was

1028
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: your partner? Who? Who's that with you?

1029
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: Oh? That was Mark Montenaro of Auto Land. He's he

1030
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: paid for the biggest sponsor, So the biggest sponsor gets

1031
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: to play with with me, so which is great. Mark

1032
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: was on fuego bro, he was on fire.

1033
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: Good for him, all right. Dodger's Territory coming up next

1034
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: with Kyle Glazer and Clintesius Dodgers Padres talk