1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Cool People Did Cool Stuff? The 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: Q and a version of it and the que stance 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: for question. I think I figured this out in the 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: A stands or answer. I'm your host Mariya Kiljoy and 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: my co host today helping me go through these questions 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: is Sophie. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Hi, Sophie, Hey, Magpie, what do we got? These are 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: the questions from Blue Sky. Oh, this is a nice 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: one to begin with, Magpie. Will you create an episode 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: about cool people and their pets? 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Ooh, probably that sounds nice. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I love that. That sounds fun. 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Oh, that's interesting. There's a couple more like specific animal 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: episodes I have in my hopper of things that I 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: want to do. And it is nice to doing animal 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: episodes because then you're like, look, these creatures can do 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: no wrong. We can't hold them to any moral account. 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: They are animals and they're all perfect. 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: This question says for Margaret, they have a question for you, 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: and they have a question for me. 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Question says, have there been any topics for the show 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: that you wish you could revisit and topics you know 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: you will cover but keep putting off because it's too 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: big or a bit scary. 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Oh, there are so many topics that I have been 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: putting off because they're too big or too scary. Mostly, 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of topics that have been covered fairly 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: extensively that I'm still interested in covering because they're so 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: important that I like and I want to do them right. 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: And doing them right doesn't mean I have to have 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: enough original take onlike everyone else's take. When something's covered 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: more and more, there's like more myth building in it. 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: It's like you have to understand who's building those myths 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: and why, and then think about the myths that I 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: build and how to compare them. I'm not actually going 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: to say what the specific episodes are because I don't 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: want to promise that i'll do them, and I have 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: a bunch in mind, and I'm hoping twenty twenty six 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: is the year that I get through a lot of 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: the episodes that I've been meeting to do for a 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: long time. What was the first part of the question. 44 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Have there been any topics for the show that you 45 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: wish you could revisit? Oh? 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: No, See, as I talked about on Monday, always forward 47 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: and never going backwards. But there are things that I 48 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: have learned more about since that, I'm like, you know, 49 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: maybe I'll revisit, but by and large, I honestly kind 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: of clear my head after every episode. I just have 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: to keep going forward because if I pick a subject 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: and stick around that time period, like, I don't think 53 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: that the factual stuff that I'm reading in books and 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: then relaying will change, but my understanding of some of 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: the nuances will change as I keep exploring that time 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: period in place and things like that. So in some ways, 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: I could probably just like do this for ten years 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: and then start all over again with the same topics 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: and they'd be totally different episodes. But life is finite. 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: It turns out. 61 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Their question for me was how much less stressful is 62 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: Magpie or Wringle as a host compared to her evil 63 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: podcast twin Robert. Here's the thing, I man a anarchish 64 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: journalism collective. Nobody's easy to wrangle, but at the same time, 65 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: everybody's wonderful to work with. Yeah, Robert is not hard 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: to I mean for everybody else on this planet, I 67 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: probably would say Robert is hard to wrangle. For me, 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not hard at all. 69 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's also like, he's wonderful he's a sweetheart, 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: and he's really good at his job. 71 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: You know, he's really great at his job, and I 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: can trust him completely to get things done, so there's 73 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: no stress there. 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: He's a good boy except for that one time. But 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: we don't talk about that. 76 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: We don't talk about that. Yeah, okay, Magpie, Well we 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: can both answer this one. I'm so curious what your 78 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: answer is gonna be. You gain the ability to instantly 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: make one currently endangered species no longer endangered. What species 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: do you choose? 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: Oh, my lord, if I picked the like charismatic megafauna, 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: I'd feel so bad. Okay, I know, I just say 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: charismatic MegaFon isn't the key, but I'm still going to 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: say polar bears. I think they're endangered because the specific 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: way in which they're endangered seems to have so much 86 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: to do with, like just specifically global warming, and like 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: when I think about polar bears going extinct, it's specifically 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: around the destruction of ice and the concept of winter 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: and like these things that I'm incredibly existentially sad about. 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Global warming could absolutely destroy my day if I spend 91 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: too long thinking about it. So if you made polar 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: bears unendangered. Hopefully be doing it in a way that 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: like thickens the ice caps and does all this knock 94 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: on effect. That's how I'm trying to play it. What 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: about you? 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Definitely red pandas they make me happy. Also, if Anderson 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: could be another species, she would totally be a red panda. 98 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: She is. 99 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I could see that. 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Red panda energy. They're so cute, their eyes are adorable, 101 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: they love to sleep, they love food. They're so cute. 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: There's not enough of them. That's my answer. Hell yeah, magpie. 103 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: What is your personal favorite potato dish? And why I 104 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: like that? 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: This is the question we get every year. 106 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Every year it changes. 107 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with just I really like 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: roasted potatoes, Like I really like I make this like 109 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: tofu scramble with roasted potatoes when i'm doing like when 110 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm actually on top of my shit and I do 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: food prep on Sunday, I make a sheet pan of 112 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: potatoes and tofu with like a white bean sauce that 113 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: I put in the fridge separate, And it makes me 114 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: really happy because it's like the sign of like I 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: did it, I food prepped, I'm on top of my shit. 116 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: I really like a baked potato because you can dress 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: it up and dress it down, and there's like so 118 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: many different ways to eat it. But you can like 119 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: stuff that thing with whatever you're craving at the time, 120 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: and it tastes good. 121 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: And I do like a potato that admits it wants 122 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: oil and butter instead of the ones that claim to 123 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: only want ketchup, you know, and like I do love 124 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: a thing that I just like very much want to 125 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: put butter on that is very tasty. 126 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Margaret, how were you first introduced to anarchism. 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: I didn't think too much of it when I was younger. 128 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: I was like kind of a lackluster social democrat. Besides, 129 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: like I was in boy Scouts and my best friend 130 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: in boy Scouts was also a girl and came out 131 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: like decades before me. And I remember going to this 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: like old or cool boy in boy Scouts and was like, 133 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: how do you draw a circle? A did the lions 134 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: go outside the circle or not? And he looked at 135 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: me and he went, it doesn't matter. And that is 136 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: the most wise piece of anarchist advice I ever got. 137 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: But I had no idea what it meant. I just 138 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: sort of was interested in kind of an edgy way. 139 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: I took myself way too seriously to be interested in it. 140 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: And then when I was nineteen, I again lackluster social democrat, 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: and I went to an anti globalization demonstration in New 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: York City and it changed my life. I went up 143 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: to someone wearing all black. I had heard that the 144 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: anarchists were going to break the mask claw by wearing masks, 145 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: you weren't allowed in New York City, and I was like, 146 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: that's cool, which it is, but I was especially interested 147 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: because I was like nineteen. It seemed really cool. So 148 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: I go up to those guys wearing all black and 149 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, Hey, what's this anarchist stuff? And he goes like, oh, well, 150 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: we don't like the government or capitalism, and I was like, oh, 151 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: what are you going to do about it? He's like, wow, 152 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: we're going to build up alternative infrastructure while destroying the infrastructure. 153 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: It's destroying the world. And I was like, oh, do 154 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: you have an extra mask? He was like I do, 155 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: and he gave me a black mask. And I was 156 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: already wearing all black because I was a weird goth 157 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: punk kid, and I put on a mask and then 158 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: decided I was an anarchist. And then after that the 159 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: learning curve got pretty steep, pretty quick, because it turns 160 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: out there's more to it than that. But that's how 161 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: I got involved, and it kind of gave me a like, 162 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: it's not the only way to look at the world, right, 163 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: but it gave me like a lot of ideas that 164 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: have been floating around in my head. It was like 165 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: put in on glasses. I could suddenly like all of 166 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: the stuff was already there. All of the things I 167 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: was interested, it was already there. But it brought everything 168 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: into focus. 169 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break. We're back with more 170 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: of your questions. 171 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Whow and we're back. 172 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: This question is what's Rentroll's favorite rainy day afternoon activity? 173 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: Sleeping on the couch. Rentroll likes to sleep with his 174 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: chin rested on my leg. Yeah, and then gets real 175 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: grouchy if I move, And it is very endearing. And 176 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: when he was a tiny little puppy, the first time 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: I was driving him somewhere and he wasn't freaking out, 178 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: he crawled over and fell asleep on my lap. And 179 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: then I got where I was going and I just 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: sat in the car for like thirty or forty minutes 181 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: because he was asleep and I didn't want to move. 182 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: There's a thing I guess in dogs, where like when 183 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: it's rainy out, the pressure changes and they're like calmer 184 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: because my dog is incredibly active and loves being outside 185 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: all the time. And actually, weirdly, one of Rentroll's favorite 186 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: rainy day activities is running around like crazy in the 187 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: rain and still just acting like it's not raining. But 188 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: he only does that for a little while and then 189 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: I open the door and it comes back in. What 190 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: about your dogs? 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Anderson and Truman like to watch the rain from inside 192 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: that got the window and watch the rain. 193 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: They love that. 194 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: We love to do a good like enrichment toy like 195 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: a popsicle or a topple, which you know is really 196 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: great for just any day, but especially in a rainy 197 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: day where you're not able to do as long of 198 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: walks or yeah, running on grass, especially because Anderson has 199 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: had both her knees done where I don't really want 200 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: her running on super wet grass. Oh yeah, it's good 201 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: for mental stimulation. And we just like to hang out 202 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: in my house. There's definitely like a designated play room 203 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: for them where there's just like a fuck ton of 204 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: dog toys. Sometimes we just like to go in there 205 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: and just like not necessarily even like play, but we 206 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: just like to like be in there because it's like 207 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: we know we could like this is like the fun 208 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: this is the happy room. 209 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: Hell I am God. 210 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: I love my dogs. 211 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: God bless dogs. 212 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: That was the fucking best. Okay, do you have a 213 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: cool person you want to cover that you don't have 214 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: good enough sources for. 215 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: Probably Okay, it's really nerdy. No, there's a specific guy. 216 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I did a couple episodes about a woman 217 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: named Isabel Eberhart who was raised by anarchists. She herself 218 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: was an anarchist and she was like this non binary hero, 219 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: trans masculine. I'm using she because I don't think she 220 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: cared or various points in her life she present different ways. 221 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: She traveled around North Africa, and actually people say she 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: converted to Islam. She's very clear that she was raised 223 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: as Muslim, and people are like skeptical of that because 224 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: she's white. But her father was this anarchist who had 225 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: been a priest. But I think was raised Muslim and 226 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: then became a priest and then became an anarchist and 227 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: tried to kill the general of the tzar's main general 228 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: and then kidnapped that guy's daughters with his wife. He 229 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: like cocked to this dude and then took his kids 230 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: and went to Switzerland. I think it's been a minute 231 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: sin study of these episodes. Whereupon he just like got 232 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: really into growing cactuses and orchids. But he also raised 233 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: his kid's gender neutral and that's why is Blabahart was 234 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: very used to dressing up like a boy, and he 235 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: as he aged got really really into Islam and just 236 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: spent his time researching that. But Isabel Eberhart talks about 237 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: being part of these like secret societies when she was 238 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: a kid and like delivering messages and all this shit, 239 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: and it's a society that I know nothing about, and 240 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: it makes me so aware about how there's so many 241 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: people who did so much rad stuff that was just 242 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 2: literally never written down because they were doing crime and 243 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: so they didn't write it down. And so he feels 244 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: like a key into this world. She does too, and 245 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm just so interested in, Yeah, these unknowable lives and 246 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: these unknowable acts and this idea that maybe like we've 247 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: all collectively done so much more than like I was 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: talking to a historian or maybe no, I was listening 249 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: to a book. I was listening to a history book 250 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: and it was talking about the history of the one percent. 251 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: Is a book called Goliath's Curse, I think I just 252 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: started it and talks about how history is written by 253 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: the one percent of the past. So you have all 254 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: of these lives, like if you read ancient documents, it's 255 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: like the things that the rich people wrote because the 256 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: poor people didn't write, and so we just don't know. 257 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: And so there's like all this stuff like Okay, I 258 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: know that people were really excited for me to get 259 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: really wound up by this question. Like, for example, there's 260 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: like new research about how or maybe it's not new, 261 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: but I learned about it more recently that medieval Western Europeans, 262 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: the peasants would only get married when they were like thirty, 263 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: and I'm sure they were fucking before then, but we 264 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: don't know, and like, we don't know shit about their 265 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: fucking lives. Everything we think we know is just through 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: the lens of these rich assholes. That's what I that's 267 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: what I wish I knew. I wish I knew what 268 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: poor people were up to throughout history, because I think 269 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: it's more interesting than we're told. 270 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Much lighter question. If there was a Muppet movie of 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: your life, which Muppet would play you? I always want 272 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: to be played by the dog, So I'm Rolf the Dog. 273 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: Oh amazing. I think I'd be like, oh crap, what 274 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: is the woman who plays saxophone in the band? Ah? 275 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: I think I'd be like her and Animal's kid zuit Janie. 276 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 277 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: You are. 278 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm somewhere between those are the two wolves 279 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: inside me? Is janis an animal? 280 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: I fear that I also might identify as Kermit. 281 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: You would be a Kermit. That's there was a reason 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Kermit's the emotional heart of that whole show. 283 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: But I want to be the dog. 284 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: You can be halfway between Ralph and Kermit. There be 285 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: the two wolves inside you, or the frog and the 286 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: wolf inside you. And then one thing that I've learned 287 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: as i've aged is that when I was a kid, 288 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: like I didn't get Miss Piggy, and now I'm like 289 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: fucking vengeance for Miss Piggy, Like God bless miss Piggy. 290 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Let's take our last Adverrek and be 291 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: back with the last couple questions, and we're back. God, 292 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm just picturing you as a muppet. It's beautiful. Wow, 293 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: that was really good. 294 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to do a muppet dance, but 295 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm in a very small space. 296 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: But the sound effect was fantastic, really great experience for me. 297 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to see the dance. 298 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: Hah haha. 299 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Audio medium. Do you use Mason or other canning jars regularly, 300 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: If so, for what and which is your favorite. 301 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: Oh I'm a poser about prepping and food prep. I 302 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: have a lot of Mason jars and I use them 303 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: to store stuff. But I just store stuff and them, 304 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: like I'm not actually really canning things. Well, sometimes I do, 305 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: like you know, put nuts in them and then use 306 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: little vacuum sailor and stuff to make them store longer. 307 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: I like those WEC jars that are like in the 308 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: tulip shape. 309 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: I like those. 310 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Those are nice. 311 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: Oh I don't think I've seen those. 312 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're nice. They're well only if you get them secondhand, 313 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: because like they're so expensive, like brand new, but you 314 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: can often find them at like a thrift brand new. 315 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: It's like nine dollars a jar, which is inhumane. 316 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: It's too much for a jar. 317 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Way too much for a jar. Somebody had like a 318 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: get all these things for free thing, and they had 319 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of jars, and so I went and got 320 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of them. And they're great if you like 321 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: make bread or anything like that. They're really good for 322 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: like sourdough starter. Oh goodness, yeah, magpie, do you have 323 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: a standard guitar phase or have you always played a 324 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: more obscure stringed instrument? Hilarious? 325 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: They're like, hey, were you ever. 326 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Like not weird? 327 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: I love it. I have never been very good at guitar. 328 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: I have one. I've been playing it since I was 329 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: like thirteen years old. I'm not very good at it, 330 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: and I enjoy it. Right. And then, like when I 331 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: was traveling around full time, I would often be around 332 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: acoustic guitars, and like every train hopper knows at least 333 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: a couple songs on an acoustic guitar so that you 334 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: can like pass one around in a circle and stuff, 335 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: and I could do that. But then pretty early on 336 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: a friend of mine gave me an accordion, and an 337 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: accordion was the perfect instrument for traveling with himbuskiing. It's 338 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: kind of heavy, like it was kind of ridiculous that 339 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: I would have like a full sized backpack. And then 340 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: just like this accordion case that's like from like nineteen 341 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: twenty or whatever, because all accordions are one hundred years old, 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: but accordions are loud and kind of unique, so they're 343 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: perfect busking instruments. And so as soon as I learned 344 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: how to play accordion, I kind of pity my poor guitars. 345 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: They don't get played much. And then my twenty twenty 346 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: pandemic hobby was making weird stringed instruments, sometimes out of 347 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: kids and sometimes out of my imagination, and so I 348 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: like playing those. 349 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: What's a documentary that's personally affected you. I remember seeing 350 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: Shark Water as a kid made me aware of the 351 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: effects of commercial fishing, and Shark Hunter in particular. 352 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a terrible answer. I don't like 353 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: documentaries very much because documentaries I don't feel like I 354 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: always have a good sense of how much spin is 355 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: in them, because I find a lot of documentaries to 356 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: be incredibly full of spin, no matter which side they 357 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: come from, And there are some documentaries that are wonderful 358 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: and honest, and I just literally can't think of any 359 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: off the top of my head. But I will say 360 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: that the book that was aquivalent for that was I 361 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: think it was a book Fast Food Nation that I 362 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: read in the nineties as a teen, and it was 363 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: about the cost environmentally, human rights and animal rights of 364 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: animal agriculture in the United States, and it was a 365 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: big part of why it went vegan. And so it's 366 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: interesting because it's always been as much about human rights 367 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: for me, you know, reading this nonfiction book about migrant 368 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: workers dying as they fell into giant vats and then 369 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: overcome by fumes and stuff like that as I kind 370 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: of sat with me ever since. So that's the closest 371 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: what about you. 372 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: I can't think of like my overall favorite. But I 373 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: did recently watch the documentary I think it was from 374 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: like ten years ago about Amy Winehouse just called Amy. 375 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: Oh was that good? 376 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: It's good. 377 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: It was like really sad, but yeah. 378 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: It examines like fame and like being an artist and 379 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: like having fame and like how it can lead to 380 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: different scenarios such as like her extreme spiral of addiction. Yeah, 381 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: and it has some really good like archival footage. Yeah. 382 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: The most recent one I watched was that prop host 383 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: of foot Politics was like, Sophie, I need you to 384 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: watch the Diddy documentary on Netflix, oh shit, so that 385 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: we can talk about it. Yeah. And it was actually 386 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: a pretty good documentary. Yeah yeah. And the fact that 387 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: they have that footage from you know, right before he 388 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: was indicted, when he didn't think that would happen. Oh 389 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: h Like fifty cent is an amazing hater and I 390 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: love it. One of my favorites though, is like March 391 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: of the Penguins. 392 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: Is that her zog? No no, no, no no? 393 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: That was It was voiced by Morgan Freeman, but it 394 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: was directed by Luke. Oh my god, what's starts with 395 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: a J? 396 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: Is it more of like the Planet Earth style one? 397 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: I do like those? Oh I love those? 398 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, those are those. It's like all about like 399 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: following the penguins from the South Pole Journey and it's 400 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: fucking cool. I love animal things that are not sad. 401 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: Okay, wait to talk trash on documentaries for one second. 402 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: And this isn't the fault of all documentaries. I'm not 403 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: going to name who it was, but a documentary filmmaker's 404 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: team reached out to me years ago to be like, hey, 405 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: we want to do a documentary about anarchism. Do you 406 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: want to be on it? And I was like, yeah, sure, 407 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: I'll talk to a camera about this, that's fine. But 408 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 2: they were like they talked to me for a long 409 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: time on the phone, and slowly they were like, oh, well, 410 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: it's a docu series. And I was like, do you 411 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: mean reality TV? And they were like no, no, no docuseries. 412 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: And it was like all based on the fame of 413 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: like this documentarian who had made a big documentary or 414 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: big lefty documentary. And I was like all right, And 415 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: then I slowly realized that they didn't care about the 416 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: political philosophy or organizing or community work. They were like, 417 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: we want you to take camera crew into like squats 418 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: and train yards and we're all just hanging out and 419 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: they weren't gonna pay me. So cool, and I wouldn't 420 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: have done it even for pay, because those are communities 421 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: that don't want cameras in them, you know, because it's criminal. 422 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: And I've had this bitter taste in my mouth ever since, 423 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: at least for that crew. But they never made the show. 424 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: They offered to unpaid let me basically like host or 425 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: like burn my cred to get them access to places. 426 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: I was unbelievable. Yeah, and now that you mentioned docuseries, 427 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: which is really not what they were trying to do 428 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: at all. 429 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: I was just a scam. 430 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: God. I fucking loved The Last Dance, the Michael Jordan 431 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: documentary about the Bulls. This came out in twenty twenty, 432 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: and I feel like it set the bar for the 433 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: way that sports documentaries need to be done. And it 434 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: was shot so beautifully. 435 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: In the interviews, I think I would enjoy that. I 436 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: don't even follow baseball. I think I would enjoy that 437 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: it was basketball. 438 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: You were close. 439 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I knew that. I want to be clear, 440 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan played baseball. You're also and I knew him 441 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: as a basketball player. That was just a slip up. 442 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: I promise everyone that's amazing. 443 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: I also was never like a Michael Jordan's stand but 444 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: like I'm a fan of basketball. I was like a 445 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: showtime Lakers fan and like a you know, I'm just 446 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: like a gross Lakers fan. Sorry to everyone, I'm you. 447 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: Are not really wearing a Lakers hat and a Lakers sweatshirt. 448 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm nauseatingly yeah, much of a Lakers fan. But it's 449 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: like a whatever, I is. 450 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: It insufferable that you work with all these fucking people 451 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: who only care about dead political figures FO one hundred 452 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: years ago and don't have the same interest as you. 453 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: No, because I like hired Ian Johnson who's a Laker 454 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: fan and props a Laker fan. So I have my team, 455 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: I have my community, I have my bubble. Don't worry. 456 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah good. 457 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Also, like I love basketball, I will never make it 458 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: part at my job. 459 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 460 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: It is something that I just keep for myself as like, 461 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: this is my hobby. I love it so much. I 462 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: enjoy it, but I'm never going to try to like 463 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: make money off of it. I've been asked if I 464 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: wanted to do like some kind of sports podcast type 465 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: thing before many times, and the answer is no, Like 466 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: I want to keep enjoying that for myself. 467 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense to me. 468 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to end with this question, which you answered 469 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: the person directly on Blue Sky, but I really liked 470 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: your answer. They asked, what's one thing you'd tell my 471 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: thirteen year old trans daughter when she's feeling scared and 472 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: angry about the future. Do you want me to read 473 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: your answer or do you want to expand on it? 474 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Because I really liked what you said. 475 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: If you read it, I'll expand on it onto Yeah, okay, great. 476 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: You said gonna answer this ahead of time. This is 477 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: a really good answer, Magpie. I kind of teared up 478 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: when you said it. The world is scary, but so 479 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: are we. There are so many of us, and we 480 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: and our friends are tough as nails, and we will 481 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: fight for each other. 482 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that. I think that one of the 483 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: things that helped me deal with fear a lot, and 484 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: helped a lot of people I know deal with fear, 485 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: is that, like, oh, we are also scary. There's a 486 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: reason that they're afraid of us. And probably they're afraid 487 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: of us because they're cowards, and they're afraid of like 488 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: the idea of people breaking out of gender roles, because 489 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: then it makes them have to question the fact that 490 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: they've lived their lives subservient to gender roles rather than 491 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: figuring out what they want to be. But on some level, yeah, 492 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: we just have to remember that, like they're going to 493 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: call us monsters, monsters of claws, monsters of teeth. 494 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 495 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks for listening to our Q and A, 496 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: and we will be back next week with more cool 497 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: People Who Did Cool Stuff? Oh and People's pre order 498 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: James's book, which is really really good. And then also 499 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: the best podcast I listened to over winter break was 500 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: The Devil You Know by Sarah Marshall. It's so good. 501 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: I thought I already kind of knew the Satanic panic. 502 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: I didn't. I learned so much. And yeah, can't go 503 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: wrong with James's book Against the State, available for pre 504 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: order from Akpress. And listening to The Devil You Know 505 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: by Sarah Marshall. 506 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: That's my best friend. 507 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: Support her. 508 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: She's the coolest person in the whole world. Sarah. If 509 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: you're listening to this, I love you. 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