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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation.

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Speaker 3: It's the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Wes Shuoler

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Speaker 3: and Matt Williamson with you here on the twenty third

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Speaker 3: of December, as we are coming down the home stretch

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Speaker 3: of the NFL season. We are getting right in the

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Speaker 3: thick of the holiday season here, Matt, and of course,

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Speaker 3: although it is a jolly old Saint Nicholas week, it

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Speaker 3: is still standard operating procedures for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And

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Speaker 3: with that, we had a Mike tomin press conference today,

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Speaker 3: as we always.

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Speaker 1: Do on.

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Speaker 4: Reacting to these organically.

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Speaker 3: I like doing this too, when when you know, when

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Speaker 3: you've kind of been doing shows and all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and we can we can get to this and kind

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Speaker 3: of get first type reactions from you. So, as we

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Speaker 3: always do, we'll start at the injury report stuff because

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Speaker 3: that is typically most pertinent.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, no new updates on TJ. Watt or Isaac Samalu.

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Speaker 3: Both kind of gonna have to wait and see what

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Speaker 3: happens this week.

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Speaker 2: But it does sound like.

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Speaker 3: Certainly for Saamalu maybe for Watt as well, a chance

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Speaker 3: of practicing this week.

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Speaker 2: I think, say, it sounds like Samalu.

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Speaker 3: Likely will what possibly will, but both of those guys

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Speaker 3: kind of no new updates. She's just gonna have to

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Speaker 3: wait and see what happens this week.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's early, and so I'm glad we just

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Speaker 4: heard Watt's name. It seems like there's been no news,

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Speaker 4: and I took no news as bad news, you know,

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Speaker 4: up until this point. So when you said there's a

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Speaker 4: chance he practices, I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll take that

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Speaker 4: all day long.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 3: James Pierre worked out this morning, will be limited to

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Speaker 3: start the week, but will be a participant involved here.

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Speaker 3: So that is good because we you know, at different

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Speaker 3: position but still same you know, same unit. We saw

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Speaker 3: Brandon Eckles go down on Sunday and I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're starting to get a little thin and you were

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Speaker 3: already thin in that department and getting a little bit

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Speaker 3: a little bit thinner. Uh. He said he's hopeful about

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Speaker 3: Brandon Eckles, but this week of practice will tell that story.

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Speaker 4: Okay. I mean the reason I was thinking about that,

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Speaker 4: it's like Pierre is great to have back, but he's

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Speaker 4: playing really well. But your outside corner position's okay. You

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Speaker 4: know at the moment at least where the slot means

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Speaker 4: you lose.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you're moving multiple parts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all of a sudden you get maybe not weaker,

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Speaker 4: but you get different than two spots. Yes, which I

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Speaker 4: didn't love.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 3: Uh So Pierre with his calf worked out this week

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Speaker 3: or worked out this morning. Part of me will start

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Speaker 3: the week limited. Hopeful about Brandon Eckles with his groin,

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Speaker 3: but they're going to have to see how the week transpires.

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Speaker 3: Nick Herbig with that hamstring. Mike Tomlin is optimistic about

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Speaker 4: I got the impression like, if last week was a

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Speaker 4: true playoff game, maybe he could have gone.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he'd have played fifteen snaps for something. So that's great.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you're right in that he was

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Speaker 4: He did some stuff last week, that's a lot, or

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Speaker 3: Week exactly right, exactly right, and so I think that's encouraging,

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Speaker 2: And herbig uh and then the good players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, you're gonna need maybe not necessarily Sunday in Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: Saturday goes your way, I would think I would play

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Speaker 4: none of those guys, certainly, not what.

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Speaker 3: Certain anyone with any any type of because they've all

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Speaker 2: Report, I would shut down every one of them one

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Speaker 4: Maybe they get their feet wet a little bit and

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Speaker 2: And maybe you play a series or two.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you don't wait that long but between games.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and then finally, Jalen Warren and Spencer Anderson

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Speaker 3: both will be limited early to start this week. Optimistic

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Speaker 4: Did I miss either one of them, like going out

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Speaker 4: of the game or they just bump some bruises associated

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Speaker 2: It's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I don't Anderson was hard to keep track of because.

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Speaker 2: You know, was he ever?

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Speaker 3: That's right, something the chaos of of of just downloading

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Speaker 3: all of our thoughts yesterday, that's something we didn't mention.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there was a lot of movement on the

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Speaker 4: Which worked great.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it did work out there, It worked

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Speaker 3: much better than it did in LA when when they

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Speaker 4: And that's what funny about our jobs too. It's like

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Speaker 4: they lost the chargers, so it was a bad idea.

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Speaker 4: They win to the Lions. You mention it, they don't

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Speaker 4: even bring it up, you know, like why would they

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Speaker 4: move the guard around? You know, that's because he's better

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Speaker 4: in space. There's a reason why they're doing it. I

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Speaker 4: mean they they move him at a full back like

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Speaker 4: not just anyone can do that. Spencer Anderson extra. You

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Speaker 4: gotta be able to move, guy, you gotta be able

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Speaker 4: to move. I mean, you're you're blocking smaller people. A

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Speaker 2: We got to hit him a smaller moving target.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's usually a tackle. Yeah, and most most

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Speaker 2: Lines up one spot over correct.

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Speaker 4: But Anderson, they pull them and they'll put him in

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Speaker 4: the backfield like it's just like it's not this, Oh

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Speaker 4: put McCollum repeat there or whatever, like that's not an

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Speaker 3: No, it's you've got to be athletic. You gotta be

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Speaker 3: able to move. Yeah, yeah, you got to be able

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Speaker 3: to hit a moving you know. It's not the same

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Speaker 3: of you and like you've got to pick you gotta move.

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Speaker 2: You got to pick your man up. I D find him,

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Speaker 4: Not the best. You gotta be smart, you know, like

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Speaker 4: you do. You usually don't have full back calls if

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Speaker 2: Absolutely do without that absolutely well, I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: mean they catch a pass.

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Speaker 4: They catch a pass.

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Speaker 3: So that's it from kind of the injury forefront there,

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Speaker 3: I would call that mostly optimist. I think it's better,

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Speaker 3: maybe better this week than it was a week or two,

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Speaker 3: you know, the last week or two.

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Speaker 4: I mean, considering it's Christmas week, you're in the hunt

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Speaker 4: you've played a bunch of tough games in a row.

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Speaker 4: That's not too bad considering it sounds like a contingency

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Speaker 4: of that group you mentioned could or will play.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, you know it sounds like and again

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Speaker 3: pure speculation. Things can change so quickly, but it sounds

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Speaker 3: like more of those guys are trending towards playing as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just the tone of it sounded better than worse.

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Speaker 3: Like if TJ is the only one who's not available

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Speaker 3: it sounds realistic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and especially if you have Herbig Matt.

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Speaker 3: Something that we got a lot of questions about tweets

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin was asked about that is something you just

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Speaker 3: touched on, Coach. What happened if the Ravens lose Saturday

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Speaker 3: night and you guys clinch before you take the field

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Speaker 2: How does that work? How do you go about that?

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Speaker 2: Who gets rest?

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Speaker 3: How do you balance that with what would also be

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Speaker 3: a week eighteen? That wouldn't mean anything for you from

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Speaker 3: that standpoint. Mike tom And said, if the Ravens lose

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Speaker 2: It could change the.

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Speaker 3: Plan for some of the players on Sunday, but they

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Speaker 3: have not made any specific plans there yet and kind

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Speaker 3: of that proverbial you know, will cross that bridge if

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Speaker 4: It's funny, I almost cut you off because I thought

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Speaker 4: this is this is a screams coach speak. We're not.

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Speaker 4: We're only worried about the Steelers. Yeah, like every most

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Speaker 2: Just be like Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know they were playing the Packers this week.

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Speaker 4: That's right, I didn't even know. We're not paying any atention.

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Speaker 4: We're just preparing for the Browns, you know, Bell. That's

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Speaker 4: all Belichick would handle, you know, most coaches. But that

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Speaker 4: means that screams to me that Tom would be like, dude, Aaron,

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Speaker 4: you're not I'm hiding your helmet cam. You're not playing

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Speaker 4: if the Packers pull it off, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right, exactly, And so that will be interesting

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Speaker 3: to me though, like I told you, I still I

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Speaker 3: would still like to see the Steelers have to win

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, get it done themselves, cross that finish line,

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Speaker 3: put the hat and the T shirt on and dance

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Speaker 3: a little bit in the locker room to you know,

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Speaker 3: to celebrate winning the division, which obviously is not the

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Speaker 3: they sell hats and T shirts for it.

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Speaker 2: It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I actually made this joke a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 3: with our producer Nathan when when he first started Steelers,

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Speaker 3: it's like, they win the division, who cares?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, While if the.

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Speaker 3: Pirates won the division, I would buy a hat and

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Speaker 3: a T shirt so fast.

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Speaker 2: So it's still it's it means something.

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Speaker 4: Means something, right. I mean, if this was an Arizona

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Speaker 3: Great example it was the last time the Bears won

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Speaker 3: the division, absolutely probably would the one years. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's probably been seven or eight years. It's been a

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Speaker 3: long time since Cleveland. The Jets, when the last time

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Speaker 3: the Jets won a division.

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Speaker 4: Jags might win the division. That's kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 2: There might win the division.

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Speaker 3: So part of me wants to see them, like, we

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Speaker 3: got to do it ourselves. We got to beat this

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Speaker 3: the road. We do that, we get the hat and

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Speaker 3: full kind of one week, shut people down, rest.

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Speaker 2: Them up, bye week. Yeah yeah, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: right into it with you here. Two game suspension came

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Speaker 5: but you know, they got stops they needed to and

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Speaker 5: just on hole. But yeah, the rushing offense and very

443
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Speaker 5: the rushing story, the rushing defense. Rushing offense too. We

444
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Speaker 5: could talk about that, I'm sure, but the rushing defense

445
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 5: and and harm and being there and everything, and and

446
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I still think Benton, you know,

447
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 5: if you go through again with just kind of top

448
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Speaker 5: of my head, the fifteen games they've had, you know,

449
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 5: Benton's been looked like it looked like the guy you

450
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 5: went again when he kind of drafted him. He was

451
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Speaker 5: early second round, you know, the real star wart guy.

452
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Speaker 5: You've probably seen that probably six or seven, eight games

453
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Speaker 5: or something like that. And there's a couple of games

454
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Speaker 5: where he's like, come on, Kean, you know you're kind

455
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 5: of missing that too. But I thought that was one

456
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Speaker 5: of the former games for him that he looked really

457
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Speaker 5: good too.

458
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Speaker 3: Chris, I realized this is probably a difficult question to answer,

459
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 3: I might be putting you on the spot a little bit,

460
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 3: but hearkening back to Sunday Detroit, that that twenty nine

461
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 3: to twenty four victory for the Steelers. Uh, you've been

462
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 3: on the beat now since twenty fourteen, I believe. So,

463
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: you know, you've got a nice, nice chunk of time.

464
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Speaker 3: You know, you're not one of these Mike Persudas or

465
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Speaker 3: you know, Bob Labriolis who's been around since the dinosaur,

466
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Speaker 3: but you've covered plenty of Steelers football in your in

467
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 3: your years. Can you remember any ending, any finish, any

468
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 3: fourth quarter that was as nuts, as bizarre, as back

469
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 3: and forth, as chaotic as what we witnessed, you know

470
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Speaker 3: about forty eight hours ago in Detroit.

471
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you count kind of the back and forth

472
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Speaker 5: nature and the exciting nature of it, and the you know,

473
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Speaker 5: late season. Hey, the crazy part is it wasn't the

474
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 5: game wasn't super duper consequential to the Steelers, right right,

475
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 5: you know. So that's if you take I remember that

476
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 5: Saints game, that had the feeling of that Saints game

477
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Speaker 5: from twenty eighteen in terms until the final play off

478
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Speaker 5: course I'm talking about We'll get to that in a second,

479
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 5: but just me in terms of the fourth quarter going

480
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 5: back and forth and both teams, you know, two playoff

481
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 5: caliber teams, and actually, oddly enough, that Steelers team missed

482
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: the playoffs kind of like these Lions probably well. I

483
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 5: felt like that Stewarts team was a playoff team or

484
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 5: should have been a playoff team, or one of the

485
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 5: top six or seven teams in the conference didn't make it.

486
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 5: And it looks like that happened the Lions too, in

487
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 5: a similar way where the Steelers lost that game there

488
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 5: and to an officiating call for passing interference. So that

489
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 5: was earlier in the game of course of Joe Hayden.

490
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember what I'm referring to here.

491
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 5: I think it was the day before Christmas or that

492
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Speaker 5: on Christmas, and there was the Joe Hayden got a

493
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Speaker 5: one and that one year where they we could challenge

494
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 5: pass interference calls. What a what a what a disaster

495
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Speaker 5: that was. But anyway, so they got a pass interference call.

496
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Speaker 5: It pretty much kind of in some way decide that came.

497
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Speaker 5: Anyway that game sticks out to me is in terms

498
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Speaker 5: of that when you talk about a late season game

499
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Speaker 5: that had that excitement going back and forth and everything

500
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 5: and had meaning in terms of one team that's for

501
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Speaker 5: a playoff and their team fighting for a division title

502
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 5: and two good teams at that matter, that that's the

503
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Speaker 5: one thing would stick out. But but that doesn't even factor.

504
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Speaker 5: And of course the final play where you have the drama,

505
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 5: and then I know, I assume the officials are instructed

506
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 5: like to talk to territory the way they always because

507
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 5: they always annount it that way. Them ruling on the

508
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 5: field is I'm sure they're instructed start with that. And

509
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: no matter what you do, right, that makes that makes

510
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 5: sense when it's a when it's a holding call in

511
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 5: the second quarter, right, or something like that, or whatever

512
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 5: it is, is there's some sort of dispute. But when

513
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 5: you're talking about the end of the game, whenever there's

514
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 5: no time on the clock and it's a five point

515
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 5: game and a touchdown decides the game. When you start out,

516
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Speaker 5: you're not with the ruling on the field is a touchdown,

517
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 5: and and you're the home team at the touchdown, and

518
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 5: then you have to explain the rest of it, and

519
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 5: then they get to and the game is over. And

520
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 5: even though when he explained you anybody thinking or knows

521
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 5: it knows that that's probably not a touchdown. Still wasn't

522
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Speaker 5: out he says, he started out with the rolling on

523
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Speaker 5: the fields a touchdown. He ends it or almost ends it.

524
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 5: Sounds like he's ending it with the game is over,

525
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 5: and then there's like a little pod he says, the

526
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Speaker 5: touchdown and I don't forget the terminology have a touchdown.

527
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 5: Didn't count the touchdowns roll back or Pittsburgh wins or whatever.

528
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 5: He said. It was just a wild way to do that,

529
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: and just to see how that that all went down.

530
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 5: And man, I was thinking about that. I'm having almost

531
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 5: like nightmares thinking about what the narrative would be this

532
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 5: week if somehow that you know, they didn't rule the

533
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 5: forward progress and they did announce that as a they

534
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 5: pitched back in a legal touchdown and the game did end.

535
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 5: If there wasn't an interference flag or something like that,

536
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 5: how that would end and how that would have what

537
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 5: would be talking about right now instead? But uh, yeah,

538
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 5: it was a It was a wild game. And and

539
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 5: further moo, when you started asking that question less, it

540
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 5: was one of the better wins by the Steelers in

541
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Speaker 5: eleven years. You took put everything together on the road

542
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 5: against a team that again they might not make the playoffs,

543
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 5: so it's kind of weird to say that, but against

544
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 5: one of the better teams in the league and the

545
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: way they the rushing offense the rushing defense to have

546
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 5: a lead almost throughout it just in terms of the

547
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 5: you know, if you talk about the quality of the

548
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 5: win somehow, this is like college football and doing a resume.

549
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 5: I think winning at Detroit for the Steelers team at

550
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 5: this time of year was one of the just better

551
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 5: quality wins they've had over the past decade or so.

552
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Speaker 4: So you mentioned the running game for the Steelers. Do

553
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: you think it's gotten to the point now where rolls

554
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 4: for gain Well and Warren are pretty much interchangeable. I mean,

555
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: there was that stretch there where Gameboll played every third

556
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: down which made me crazy, and at the beginning of

557
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: the season he was obviously kind of a spot player.

558
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: From getting the feeling they just kind of use them

559
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 4: both no matter what the situation is.

560
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do wonder, of course, you see some of

561
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 5: the i mean Gamewell lines up more outside or more

562
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 5: in a you know, plastic typical kind of more receiver thing.

563
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 5: But that might be more you know, so when you

564
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 5: say they're interchangeable in a sense. I don't think the

565
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 5: same plays necessarily the care at least are the same.

566
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Speaker 4: I guess the phrase that wrong. I mean like more

567
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 4: like down in distance it doesn't matter anymore.

568
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is kind of something I

569
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 5: you know, I know what I know. Our friend Tim

570
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 5: Benz is really advocating for it. At some point was

571
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 5: pulling his hair out about that that whenever, Oh, I

572
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: don't know this this season everything runs together anymore. One

573
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 5: of the one of the walls in the season where

574
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: the Stewards had trouble on third downs, and part of

575
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 5: that we thought like, well there's third you know war

576
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: and is the these two third don backs and whatever?

577
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 5: But off the field, right, yes, yes, they're that that

578
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: hole there so that that's kind of what I thought

579
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 5: made sense is the point where and that's been one

580
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 5: of the I think on both of those guys. I

581
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: don't know what you thought going into the season. I

582
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 5: was skeptical to different degrees or different levels or different reasons.

583
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 5: I guess almost maybe about gain one and what I thought,

584
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 5: there are both good running backs and good players that

585
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 5: have on your team, and heck, maybe the Steelers thought

586
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: that too. By drafting with their second draft pick, they

587
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 5: took a running back and profile more as a first

588
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: and second down back that I wondered if either of

589
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: them would be effective backs, you know, if you if

590
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 5: you kind of, I don't know, I say, expose them

591
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 5: too much or use them in all situations. And and

592
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 5: here we are and with two weeks left in the season,

593
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 5: and it's kind of the opposite quote unquote problem where

594
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: that where they're both proved adept at every situation, you're

595
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 5: trying to find ways to use them both. And so

596
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: I think that's been one of the better aspects is

597
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 5: both gain well kind of getting out of the shadow

598
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 5: of you know, the always having a Pro Bowl running

599
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 5: back ahead of him in Philadelphia and coming here and

600
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: you know and kind of on a prove it deal

601
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: and show and proven that he can be a much

602
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 5: more utilized player. And the same thing with Warren. You know,

603
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: maybe there was questions about him. He had to get

604
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 5: his contract and he obviously was never the starter here

605
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 5: or anything like that. And I think they both have

606
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: shown it there are capable backs in their own way,

607
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 5: and it can be really good backs in their own way.

608
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 3: A couple more minutes here with Chris Adamski, of course,

609
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: of the Steelers.

610
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: Blitz and the trib buzz.

611
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: A.

612
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: I guess a hypothetical for you here.

613
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Speaker 3: If the Baltimore Ravens go to Lambeau Fields Saturday night

614
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: and lose to the Packers and the Steelers clinch the

615
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: AFC North, how do you proceed on Sunday? Are you

616
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: looking at it as two by weeks? Are you looking

617
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: at it as business as usual? Is it somewhere in between?

618
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: I still want my guys to play because I don't

619
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: want him to have that much time off. But you know,

620
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 3: maybe I'll say I'll say woe as opposed to Sickham.

621
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: You know, once we get into the second or third quarter,

622
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: if the Steelers know when that bus gets to what

623
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: is it Huntington Bank Field there? I think now in

624
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: Cleveland it changes its name every year. When I when

625
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: that bus pulls up at you know, ten thirty eleven

626
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: o'clock Sunday morning, and the Steelers quote unquote have nothing

627
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: to play for because the division is already in the bag.

628
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: But you still have two more games. It's not just

629
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: a one week thing. How do you how do you think?

630
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: How would you handle that? How do you think Mike

631
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: Tomlin would handle that?

632
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: I feel like Mike Tomlin and maybe I'm wrong with this.

633
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 5: They obviously have to game plan like a normal week,

634
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 5: like they need to win the game obviously and treat

635
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: it like a highly meaningful regular season game. So I

636
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: don't know. If you get to the point where this

637
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 5: Saturday night, what you know, you've already developed your plan

638
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 5: with your players, then you also have the whole thing

639
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: where it's not like a preseason game where I mean

640
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: there's only six ers plus injuries, you know, six or

641
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: seven extra guys I guess you'd call up to practice

642
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: squad guys. You can't rest everybody, right, only somebody exactly

643
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: because it was literally impossible to do it. So you

644
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 5: run into that now at some point though, because it

645
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 5: to me, And then it's then you run the problem

646
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 5: if you really want to have a lot of these

647
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 5: guys having what would be three calendar weeks or your

648
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 5: two games off heading into the the playoffs when you

649
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: want to be at your sharpest, especially whenever you know,

650
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 5: I guess both sides of the ball and particularly an offense,

651
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: I feel like that things are kind of rounding in

652
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: the format, right You don't want to. You kind of

653
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: keep that momentum going. So it's definitely a balancing act.

654
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 5: And and my first instinct would be to say, you know,

655
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 5: I'll pretty much treat other than guys that are on

656
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: the fence for injury, right that that's obviously something you

657
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: maybe don't want to. You might if it's a playoff game,

658
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 5: if somebody's right on the fence there, you let them player,

659
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: or a game you had to win for the division,

660
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: you let them player. But it's a week eight game

661
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 5: in the regular season, maybe a little less, but in

662
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 5: this situation, sit them down, right, you you definitely don't

663
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 5: want to have somebody who've got a soft tissue thing

664
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: and you're trying to force them out there, so that

665
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 5: so that that could knock up a couple of year

666
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 5: the season's there. Man, man, it's like, again, you want

667
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: to keep the momentum going, but at the same time,

668
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: what you know, a forty two year old quarterback like

669
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: you kind of just don't want I know Mike Tomlin

670
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 5: doesn't think this way, but it's like, man, can you

671
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 5: imagine the U if he done? You know, Ed Rodgers

672
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 5: gets hurt in that game or in the second half

673
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: of that game or something, and it's just like you

674
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: imagine that the the criticism that would come out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

675
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: So but I would think that Rogers and just be

676
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: my guess what they would do and probably what I

677
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: would do too, is at least start them and you know,

678
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: maybe the whole first half. I don't know, especially at

679
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 5: that point you have a whole extra game, and that's

680
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 5: when it gets real fun. You think, is it is

681
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 5: it a little Howard game? Is it a half Mason

682
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: Rudolph half Otle Howard? And you know, there's a lot

683
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: of ways you can play with that, and I'm sure

684
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: a lot of people would that'd make that very interesting.

685
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 5: All of a sudden they get to watch Will Howard

686
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 5: in a game that week eighteen game. It doesn't mean

687
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: anything because that that's something that you could put in

688
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 5: your put in your memory bank and pocket for how

689
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: you approach a lot of things over the offseason and everything.

690
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: I think, but yeah, I would think something like that

691
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 5: and maybe set a couple you know, obviously, don't you know,

692
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 5: don't maybe may you say them all those shows He's

693
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: ready and all of a sudden, you know what, we

694
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 5: don't need to put say them all the way in here.

695
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 5: Now if this doesn't mean anything, you know, a couple

696
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 5: of guys up and down like that. You know, obviously TJ,

697
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: you know, if he was getting close, maybe it's the

698
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 5: playoff week, maybe you know, he pushes a little more.

699
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: But obviously you wouldn't do that in his situation if

700
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 5: the game doesn't mean anything.

701
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: Would you agree? Though? If the Ravens and Steelers win

702
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: this upcoming weekend, then you'd like treat it like a

703
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: preseason game. I mean, you just shut down everyone for

704
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: one week.

705
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 5: If I see, yeah, okay, what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,

706
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: I think at that point, yeah you hey, it's only

707
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: one week. Then it's just like a bye week, you know.

708
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 5: I think you start getting the two weeks, you start

709
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 5: maybe losing some of your Christmas and things like that,

710
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: and yeah, and it all. You know. Also, you have

711
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: a whole week then to kind of put in the

712
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: game plan for however you want to do it. The

713
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: I would, I would say, my guess would probably Mason

714
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: reure out the first half, well Howard the second half.

715
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 5: But your game plan with the guys you have, whoever

716
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 5: they are, and put together probably obviously you have anila

717
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: game plan to a point in terms of what you're doing,

718
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 5: but at least you you have a whole week to

719
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: kind of, you know, build up to what you're doing

720
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 5: that week, rather than playing plan plan all week. And

721
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: obviously that's not I'm probably making too much of this,

722
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: but at the same time, you know, at that point

723
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 5: you've been revving up for a full week for this

724
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: week and at least start the game with your with

725
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 5: your starters and everything and and execute that.

726
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: For a half or something.

727
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, for a whole week, definitely, I think you

728
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: treat it that way.

729
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: Yes, And frankly they would never admit it, but you

730
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: might have half the coaching staff watching the Bills that week,

731
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

732
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, they would never

733
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: admit it. You're right, and you got to you got

734
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: you're playing to rival and everything, and I'm sure they're

735
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: gonna want to want to win that Week eight team.

736
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: But you're absolutely right. Although there's a lot of ways

737
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 5: that could still we'll see how. We'll know a little

738
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: more clarity after Sunday or Monday here, but I mean

739
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 5: New England still would play as the five. See, I mean,

740
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 5: there's there's at you know, yeah, so Houston's and there's

741
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 5: a lot of way it might not be might not

742
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: be that simple, but you're right. At least start a

743
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: little advanced scouting on the three or four or five teams.

744
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 5: You might still have to be able to play that

745
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 5: next week.

746
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: Always plumbing to ponder. Always good stuff with our buddy

747
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: Chris Damski. Make sure you're checking out his work in

748
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: the trip and of course listening to him and Tom

749
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: at noon on the Blitz every day on the Steelers

750
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: Audio Network. Chris, thanks for the time, partner. We'll catch

751
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: up with you what I guess this weekend in Cleveland.

752
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: But happy holidays, Merry Christmas. Hopefully you are able to

753
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: enjoy some time with the family here.

754
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 5: Thank you too as well. Hopefully thank you that.

755
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: Oh you know, and I get real excited for Cleveland

756
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: in late December. Nothing gets nothing, nothing gets the blood

757
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: pumping like Cleveland in late December. Baby, there he goes

758
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: Chris Danski. Great stuff with him as always. I mean, yeah,

759
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: you ask me, South Beach, no, Southern California, no Texus, No,

760
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: I want to go to.

761
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: Cleveland for the holidays. Baby.

762
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: That is where the Christmas story House is. After all,

763
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: the ya did you know that?

764
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: I did.

765
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: I know. It's somewhere close. I don't know exactly where it's.

766
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: It's in the suburbs.

767
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: Like I don't think it's terribly far outside of the city,

768
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: but it is somewhere in the Cleveland suburbs.

769
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: You'll laugh at this. You know, my wife's from Philadelphia.

770
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: So when we moved back to well back for me

771
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: for her out here to Pittsburgh in twenty eighteen, when

772
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: I took this job, one of the first things she

773
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: said was, Oh, you got to take me to the

774
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: Christmas Store. If we're gonna live that close to Cleveland,

775
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: you got to take me to the Christmas story House.

776
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: And we still haven't done it.

777
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: But it's not that far.

778
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: It's on the list of f it's far from Philly.

779
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about eight hour drive from Philly, not not

780
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: too bad from from where we're at, maybe two hours,

781
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: a little less than two hours.

782
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: You can like pay to stay there the night and

783
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: all kinds of.

784
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: Stuff they do. Oh yeah, yeah.

785
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: So I will have to I will have to get

786
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: that done for her one of the one of these years.

787
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: But this time it's football. They're Steelers and Brown.

788
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: The NFL tho. We have that on a loop all

789
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: even it's great.

790
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: It's great.

791
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: I am not the biggest like raw raw Christmas guy,

792
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: what's your favorite?

793
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, but.

794
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: Christmas story is great, Christmas vacation is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

795
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: all the all the classics. You can't beat it. Let's

796
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: get to break here. When we come back on the

797
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: other side. To close down the first hour, I want

798
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: to do a little Tuesday.

799
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: Rewind with you, Matt.

800
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: I've got perhaps my most specific observation from a Tuesday

801
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: rewind that we've had all year. So I'm excited to

802
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: get into it here. What you have to add there

803
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: as well?

804
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: We'll do that to close down our Number one when

805
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: we return on the other side was Shueler. Matt Williamson.

806
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

807
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network.

808
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

809
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

810
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: This is like a It's Christmas y, but it's also

811
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: Robin Hood esque. I was laughing with you, guys. My

812
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: wife and I were watching The Patriot last night, were like, Oh,

813
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: it's Christmas movie season.

814
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's put the Patriot on.

815
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, not exactly.

816
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: It sounds like the sounds like the Pied Piper music

817
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: that the Americans were playing during the Revolution when they

818
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: were going to fight the British, going to fight the

819
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 3: Red Coats. We're having some fun in here. Final show

820
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: for Matt and nine until Friday will be off Wednesday, Thursday,

821
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: Christmas even Christmas, but we will be back Friday to

822
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: tee up of course, Steelers, Browns and all of the

823
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: week seventeen action for you.

824
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: We actually yes in our programming though, yes, yes.

825
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: There will.

826
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: Everybody else basically is still doing shows tomorrow except for

827
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: you and I, and then they're all off Friday, but

828
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: we're going to do a show Friday, so everybody gets

829
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: two days off and there it's just kind.

830
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: Of worked around so we can keep giving you guys stuff.

831
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because it is crunch time here and there's plenty

832
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: to get to.

833
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Uh and actually before.

834
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: We leave today and hour number two, we need to

835
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: we need to make sure that we do the Christmas

836
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: Day game pick thems because we will obviously right our

837
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: last show before then.

838
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: Not the best slate, which doesn't break my.

839
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: Heart completely agree. In fact, the cynic and me kind

840
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: of enjoys that it's not the best slate me too.

841
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, We've had this conversation times

842
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: to them.

843
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: Might mean obviously for Steelers play, but I've been totally

844
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: if it's you know, like even the Saturday game, we

845
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: were at Christmas stuff at my my wife's family's house

846
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: and the first game is bad, so I hardly watched

847
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: it at all. That's it's unlike me. But I'm like,

848
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: we're here, I'm gonna you know, my kids are home

849
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: from college, blah blah blah. But then I came home

850
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 4: for Bears Packers. You know, I was glued to that.

851
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: Sure, sure there, I've told you that. Like my opinion

852
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: on all this, I'm not naive. I understand it's a business.

853
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: There's money to be made, so you make the money.

854
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: But it's like, no one has to own Christmas. Okay,

855
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: the NBA tried to do it for a decade, the

856
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: NFL's and will be successful doing it now. Christmas the

857
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: next three years is going to be on a Friday,

858
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: a Saturday, and a Sunday. It's only gonna ramp up. Oh,

859
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: It's only like I get it. I'm not naive, I'm

860
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: not dumb, not going away, but like you don't. We

861
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: could just leave Christmas Christmas, Okay that no one needs

862
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: to own Christmas and needs like but I totally digress.

863
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: Different conversation, Matt. Time to get into our Tuesday rewind here,

864
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: which isasically quite simple. Rewatched the game Monday night. You know,

865
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: an extra observation or two that we didn't discuss on

866
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: the on the show on Monday. I've got a specific

867
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: moment that I want to talk about with all of

868
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: you here that I thought changed the game, and in

869
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: all that craziness at the end and controversy at the

870
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: end and everything, we didn't discuss it at all, and

871
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: I don't think many people are. But here you go,

872
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: one key moment on that final drive for the Lions. Okay, okay,

873
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: forty five seconds left, Detroit has the ball. Obviously, it's

874
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 3: second and ten at the Steelers twelve yard line, second

875
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: and tent at the Steelers swell zone danger zone. Big time,

876
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: second and ten twelve yard line. Forty five seconds left.

877
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: The Lions come out and empty.

878
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

879
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: They throw a quick screen to the left to Slaw. However, however,

880
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: the heck he pronounces his name and they if you

881
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: look at the still shot. Detroit could not have drawn

882
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: it up better to Slaw against the ball. He's got

883
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: two blockers in front of them against Assante Emuel Junior

884
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: and Chuck Clark.

885
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: Exactly what smaller defenders.

886
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: Exactly what you're looking for.

887
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: You've got big physical receivers, so you've got.

888
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: The alleyway, You've got the blockers you need. Twelve yards

889
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: to the end zone should be a clear touchdown. I

890
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: mean if you stop it right there, when Goff gets

891
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: rid of it and t slow catches it, I mean

892
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: he's got acres and two blockers and two defenders.

893
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: That's it.

894
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: Screen to the left of the slot. Two blockers against

895
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: the Sante Samuel Junior and Chuck Clark coming down. Should

896
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: be a clear touchdown. You got the ball carrier in

897
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: space with two blockers on.

898
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: Two hats, just the way I drew it up.

899
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: And like I said, if you go back and watch it,

900
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: if you take the screenshot, I mean Detroit would have taken.

901
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: That one hundred out of one hundred times.

902
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: This is the look we wanted, the look.

903
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: We wanted, This is the the defense we wanted. We

904
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: got it. The credit to a Sante Samuel Junior and

905
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: Chuck Clark. They both did a good job of They

906
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: couldn't make the tackle, but they forced t Slaw back inside.

907
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: They didn't let.

908
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: Him get outside. I think you got and funnelments. They

909
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: did do their job in that regard. And then Patrick

910
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: Queen goes from attacking the line of scrimmage and bust

911
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: his hump all the way from the line of scrimmage

912
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: to make the touchdown saving tackle at the one yard line.

913
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: Okay, so they gained eleven of them you can take now.

914
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: And with him screaming from the.

915
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: Scream, I mean, Patrick Queen starts attacking downhill, realizes what's

916
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: going on and bust hump back, and just by Samuel

917
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: Junior and Clark being able to force to Slaw inside,

918
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: can Patrick Queen make the touchdown saving tackle at the

919
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: one yard line.

920
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: If he's a step slower touchdown?

921
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they don't force him all the way inside. Touchdown.

922
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: They gained eleven yards to the one yard line, so

923
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: hey on on second and twelve, you pick up eleven yards.

924
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: Still a successful play.

925
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 4: They still had a time out in their pocket from what.

926
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: They saw a timeout. It was third and one from

927
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: the one, and it's obviously two down territory. So if

928
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: you're the Lions, we got a time out, we got

929
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: two shots from the one yard line here, we could

930
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 3: need to Yeah, absolutely, so you would have obviously wanted

931
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 3: the touchdown there, but you still pick up eleven yard yards.

932
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen saves the day. But this is still a

933
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: great opportunity for Detroit. But then what happens from there

934
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: is the Lions take two penalties on back to back place.

935
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: They get the first o PI ten yard penalty, then

936
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: there's a false start.

937
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: On stop super quick. I do think it's noteworthy that

938
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: on that third and one, with a timeout in your

939
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: pocket on the one yard line, that they chose to

940
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: pass it like they had no faith in the run game.

941
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: Great, you know what I mean?

942
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: Because do you easily could run behind Penn a soul

943
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 4: with Montgomery?

944
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, absolutely, that's a that's a great point, right.

945
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: They had no faith of they even able to get

946
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: a yard.

947
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: So eleven yard passed to Touslaw right to the one

948
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: yard line. Patrick Queen saves the tackle. That also though

949
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: part of me that picked them up a first down.

950
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: So it was first and goal at the un.

951
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, first and goals unlimited downs. You know, basically

952
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: not unlimited, but that's not a problem.

953
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: First of goal with the one twenty five seconds on

954
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: the clock, plenty of time. I mean, Detroit is in

955
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: a great position. Touchdown pass Amon Ross Saint Brown nullified

956
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: though by the offensive pass interference, so that puts them

957
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: back to first and goal at the eleven. False start

958
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: penalty on the Lions one first and goal at the sixteen.

959
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, what looked like a clear

960
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: touchdown for Detroit. Okay, Queen makes the saving tackle at

961
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: the one yard line, but at first and.

962
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: Goal, it's easy forget that. Yeah, you look up and.

963
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: Now it's first and goal from the Steelers sixteen yard line,

964
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: and that completely changes everything. And yeah, they complete a

965
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: seven yard pass incompletion, incompletion, and then the penalty on

966
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: that final play, the game's over.

967
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: But none of that happens. They don't.

968
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: They don't get the offensive pass interference, they don't get

969
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: the five yard penalty back if Patrick Queen doesn't make that,

970
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: and credit.

971
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: To if Samuel and Clark Stall if.

972
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: They get steam and to law scors his second touchdown

973
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: of the game. There, credit to those two for forcing

974
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: him back inside. Credit to Patrick Queen for busting hump

975
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: and saving the day at the one yard line, because

976
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: from there Detroit goes back two straight plays and it

977
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: was a completely different task for the Lions.

978
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 4: So two things to throw in there is really, when

979
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: you watch I mean when you watch any games, it's noticeable,

980
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: but really, when you watch all twenty two, you see

981
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: what kind of athlete and speed player Queen is. And

982
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 4: you guys at the game or TV on the sidelines,

983
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's like, whoa that dude covers ground?

984
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I some blades of grass.

985
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can really move his feet. And the other

986
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: thing is, of course, the observation you just made about Queen,

987
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: Clark Samuel. That's the stuff that coaches love, you know,

988
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: Like I bet Tomlin shows that not just like in

989
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: the defensive film breakdown or in the d back room,

990
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: in the linebacker room, it's like, don't forget what PQ

991
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: did three plays later before, you.

992
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: Know, like, here's the trickle down of every effort.

993
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly.

994
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: You needed all these things to go right. You needed

995
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: Samuel and any one of you guys screw it up.

996
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: Anyone of you screwed up. Samuel and Clark gets steamrolled,

997
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: it's a touchdown. PQ doesn't bust, tump and get back there,

998
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: it's a touchdown. Maybe if we don't get those penalty flags,

999
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: they end up scoring a touchdown. But it took all

1000
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: those things to engineer victory. Those are the inches, Those

1001
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: are the minutia that we need to be buttoned up

1002
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: in all the time.

1003
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: And here's what happens when we do.

1004
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Queen's like, I got too far a feel

1005
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: right the gap or whatever, yeah, or just doesn't give

1006
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: the max effort possible. And it's such a Belichick thing,

1007
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: you know, do your job. Your job, you guys do

1008
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: have I have two jobs as these defensive backs taken

1009
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: on these blockers is force the thing on the inside

1010
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: if you can't make the play.

1011
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: I thought that really stood out in the Sou's.

1012
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: Real good observation that can be easily forgotten, especially on Tuesday,

1013
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, absolutely, you know our listeners.

1014
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: It was not it was not the biggest play in

1015
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: that crazy stretch of the end of the game, but

1016
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: it gave the Steelers an opportunity in that stretch there

1017
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: to win the game because it keeps you alive, even

1018
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: first goal from the one with twenty five seconds left.

1019
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: You were like, this ain't good. It looked pretty bad,

1020
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: but it was better than them scoring a touchdown the

1021
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: play before. It kept you alive. And then you get

1022
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: a couple. Then they they take a dumb OPI and

1023
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: then they take a false start, and all of a

1024
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: sudden it's like gets first and goal to sixteen.

1025
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 4: Now it's a challenge.

1026
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: Now it's a challenge for Detroit. That's how quick those

1027
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: little moments can flip a game.

1028
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: That's a good one and yet worth through a whole

1029
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: segment on that. I mean, it really is. You know,

1030
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: like one play that it can be overlooked, but that's

1031
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: how this game works.

1032
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: That is is al Pacino would say in any given Sunday,

1033
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: the inches that we need are all around us, and

1034
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers needed those inches to get it done in Detroit.

1035
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: Hour in the books, another hour to go, Matt, you

1036
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: want to do a little power rankings an hour number

1037
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: two here on a Tuesday.

1038
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: They get a little weird when teams are eliminated, But

1039
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: I mean it's still fun to do.

1040
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: I think so, particularly the top ten. Yeah, it should

1041
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: be interesting.

1042
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: So one of the bottom teams, including the Browns at

1043
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: least made some things interesting.

1044
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: Percent We'll get into all of that and more an

1045
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: hour number two. Maybe start talking about those Browns a

1046
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: little little bit more as well. West Scheeler Matt Williamson

1047
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: halfway home here on the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

1048
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network