WEBVTT - Drive Time: 2023 Pre Draft Roster Reset - Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Now check your pulse if you're not furt of what

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<v Speaker 1>is up? Dolphans and welcome to the Drivetime podcast, part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Miami Dolphins podcast network covering your team, your

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins. How's it going everybody? I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Wingfield. And on today's shoot show, Shoe, it's part

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<v Speaker 1>two of the Shoe of the Roster Review. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look at the defense, including how one roster evaluator says

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<v Speaker 1>on paper, this is the top defense in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Pass will talk a little bit about Opening Day in

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and my golf game, which I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are all here for from the Baptist Health Studios. Check

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<v Speaker 1>that from somewhere in South Florida. This is the Drivetime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya Gaffe Fish A little bit of a rocky start there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, give your boy a break. I've recording

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<v Speaker 1>this on a Thursday here, March the thirtieth, ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>Opening Day in baseball and ahead of Witness podcast drops

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<v Speaker 1>on a Friday. And two things I want to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>real quick is the opening day in baseball and just

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<v Speaker 1>how fired up I am this year. I tweeted about

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<v Speaker 1>it on Thursday and morning that the Mariners have a

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<v Speaker 1>player who I was born in nineteen eighty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>Kikerfree Junior made his debut in nineteen eighty nine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to grow up with that every night on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Northwest Kinkerfree Junior or seven ten pm in

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<v Speaker 1>my living room, me doing the wiggle every single night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how I fell in love with baseball. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how I modeled my swing after and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how my baseball swing led to what is now

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<v Speaker 1>my golf swing, which talk about here in just one second.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's really cool that my kids now

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<v Speaker 1>are all Manors. Fans of a certain age got to

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<v Speaker 1>watch King Gerfie Junior for their entire childhood. Now get

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of watching Julio Rodriguez. And in that tweet

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<v Speaker 1>I put out from the Player's Tribune a story that

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<v Speaker 1>Julio wrote. He also was featured in GQ. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>the Sports Illustrated cover athlete for the season preview this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone expects this guy to be a multiple time MVP,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just has the charisma and superstar traits that

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<v Speaker 1>you look for across the board in a ball player.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's super cool that my kids get to

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<v Speaker 1>grow watching that guy, and I'm so fired up. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna hit like, probably thirty five home runs this year,

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<v Speaker 1>probably still fifty basses, probably gonna have an OPS around

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand, probably gonna win a Gold Glove. He is

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<v Speaker 1>special and I cannot wait. Speaking of special, you're boy

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<v Speaker 1>in the golf course. I'm just kidding. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a round tonight that I'm very excited to go play.

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned it several times that I am in fact

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<v Speaker 1>on leave right now. Cameron was nice enough to fall

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<v Speaker 1>asleep for a little bit for me to record this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and get it in. But my wife feels bad

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<v Speaker 1>for me because Cameron just kind of cries all day

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been getting my ass kicked all day by

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<v Speaker 1>this kid. So she said, go ahead and get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here for a few hours and I and go

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<v Speaker 1>play golf. I'm gonna go play the Grand Palms in

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<v Speaker 1>Pembroke Pines. I'm just curious. Has anybody ever really started

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<v Speaker 1>golf at age thirty five and made the PGA Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that's kind of where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a joke, but I've mentioned that natural baseball swinging, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it, and I'm consistently getting the driver about

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<v Speaker 1>two eighty off the tea most of the time straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I got a bit of a snap hook that

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<v Speaker 1>it just turns a little bit left more than I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hitting the greens, and regulation is a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty prop position. You never know what's gonna happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>i feel like I'm putting myself in position on most

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<v Speaker 1>holes to hit from about eighty to one twenty, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not getting the ball close enough to The

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<v Speaker 1>putting is very up and down as well, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel close. I feel like I'm close to becoming someone

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<v Speaker 1>that just began golf who was consistently in the one hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like getting a eight as a first

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<v Speaker 1>number on my card is very close. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>shot a ninety the other day, and I think even

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that, I feel like I'm not far away, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years from potentially being able to get

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<v Speaker 1>under double digits in terms of being overpar like plus nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very possible for you a boy in

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<v Speaker 1>the near future. But I want to play as much

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<v Speaker 1>golf as I can this summer. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to get out there, let me know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go play some golf. Let's talk some football, shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday we did the offensive side of the ball, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we turn our attention to the defense. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could argue which side of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>looks better on paper for your Miami Dolphins. And that

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<v Speaker 1>certainly makes for a fun training camp, doesn't it. I

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<v Speaker 1>do Matchup of the Day, Matchup, Matchup, Matchup of the

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<v Speaker 1>day every single day on the Great Training Camp Practice

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<v Speaker 1>podcast reviews or recaps, and like you know, in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to try to manufacture Shack Lawson versus Austin Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple players that were certainly fun to watch, But

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<v Speaker 1>now I got like Jalen Ramsey versus Jalen Waddle, I

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<v Speaker 1>got Tyreek Hill versus Xavier Howard. I've got to Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Armstead versus Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips like who Buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>There are matchups up and down the board that I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wait to get into. And before we look at

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<v Speaker 1>our first position group, this podcast will not be as

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<v Speaker 1>long as the Thursday Behemoth or Wednesday Yeah, Wednesday Behemoth. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably will because I'm talking about baseball and golf now,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot. I think I had four thousand words

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<v Speaker 1>for that one. I got about twenty five hundred for

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<v Speaker 1>this one. But before we get into that, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy at ESPN. He's a fantasy football expert, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think translates to actual football. And I've actually gotten

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<v Speaker 1>into debate to this guy on Twitter in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have a hard time value in an

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<v Speaker 1>opinion from someone that doesn't like, you know, the great

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<v Speaker 1>So the great Mike McDaniel interview with Mike Silver. How

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<v Speaker 1>great was that? By the way, the process of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how we don't just have this quarterback in two

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<v Speaker 1>like Mike with that film session he talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>that story, we're gonna build the entire program around two

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<v Speaker 1>of strengths. Because I believe he's that good. How freaking

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<v Speaker 1>cool is that? But when you had to explain to

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<v Speaker 1>him what a field side out route was, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I can't understand. Like doing this profession and not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing the very basics, it's very weird to me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about this particular pundint. But each year

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<v Speaker 1>he does his positional grading chart and puts a heavier

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<v Speaker 1>emphasis on certain positions, like we talked about last episode

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<v Speaker 1>with more premium spots. But he has the Dolphins is thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Offensively the hell you're talking about so already kind of

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<v Speaker 1>discrediting my own source here, But defensively number one he

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<v Speaker 1>has Miami and that lands the Dolphins is the number

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<v Speaker 1>three overall roster, behind just Philly and Dallas. And to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an idea of the rest of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten, they are the Bengals, Bills, Chargers, Chiefs, Broncos, Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jets. This is under the assumption that Jets get

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. Teams three through ten in the AFC is brutal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's goot Miami better than the Bengals and Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are two teams I think most folks will pick

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<v Speaker 1>to compete with the Chiefs this year, who are even

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<v Speaker 1>lower for potential AFC supremacy in a trip to the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. Let's go ahead and get to the defense, though,

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<v Speaker 1>And as you look at this roster, you can see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Mike Clay's point, each group has starters and

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<v Speaker 1>I use air quotes around that who are really premier

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<v Speaker 1>type of players. And I use the term starter loosely

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<v Speaker 1>because starter just doesn't mean the most snaps. In the

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<v Speaker 1>era of specialization and sub packages, there just isn't as

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<v Speaker 1>much emphasis on that phrase anymore. And a prime example

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<v Speaker 1>of that is our first position group here on the

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<v Speaker 1>interior defensive line. You get, I guess, a mix of

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<v Speaker 1>starters and guys that contribute in different packages, and the

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<v Speaker 1>game can dictate how many snaps they play based upon

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<v Speaker 1>is it a guy that comes in for pass rush?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you behind early like the Detroit game last year

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<v Speaker 1>when Miami fell behind by fourteen points and didn't recapturely

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<v Speaker 1>until the fourth quarter, it's a passing game or I

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<v Speaker 1>should say a running game in that one, and then

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<v Speaker 1>late when they get the football back down, it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>more of a passing game. Right. But you have this

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<v Speaker 1>front for the Dolphins where we talk about starters versus

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<v Speaker 1>sub packages. This group is so versatile and so flexible.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in an even front, you could have like

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Zach and then like Emmanuel Ogball and Jillian Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>as you're four down, but you go odd front incomes

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<v Speaker 1>ray Kwon Davis, outgoes Amanual or whoever. But you get

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of how this group and the depth this

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<v Speaker 1>position group has can make this defense really go this year.

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<v Speaker 1>As we you know, assumed going into the offseason, you

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<v Speaker 1>might see a bit of a shift from focus of

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<v Speaker 1>building back to front to more front to back because

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<v Speaker 1>Vic Fangio's defense, we know the principles of it. Play

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<v Speaker 1>lighter boxes, play a lot of two high structures. There's

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<v Speaker 1>lots of disguise that requires smart, quick processing really across

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, but primarily in that defensive backfield. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you know Javon Holland and Brandon Jones to me

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<v Speaker 1>stand to make a big jump, and that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get a David Long, who was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best processing linebackers in my opinion, in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire National Football League. We break this thing down in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the front on interior, defensive line, and edge,

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<v Speaker 1>and so let's just go ahead and talk about the interior.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, a blue player and Christian Wilkins, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best defensive tackles in the NFL, should have been

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<v Speaker 1>a Pro Bowler last year. If he had just been

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<v Speaker 1>listed defensive tackle, he probably would have gone. Zack Steeler

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<v Speaker 1>to me is a plus starter of the green category

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy five percent criteria. If you didn't catch those

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<v Speaker 1>from If you don't know what that means, go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Wednesday's episode. We explained that pretty in depth. On

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, Ray Kuan Davis I have as a gold

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<v Speaker 1>replacement level and then Josiah Bronson and Julan Twyman, two

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<v Speaker 1>players looking to make their way in the league as

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the practice squad futures contracts. But Wilkins has

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<v Speaker 1>been on this type of trajectory that you want from

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<v Speaker 1>a player truly gets better every single year arrived as

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<v Speaker 1>a premier player last season. I think he wasn't twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one as well, but last year pretty much undeniable.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you have here is Coach Clark's group

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<v Speaker 1>is a pair of really dominant, multifaceted players who are

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<v Speaker 1>so well versed in their craft that they are both

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<v Speaker 1>capable of cheating the scheme a little bit. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean by that is they can play within the

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<v Speaker 1>rules of their job, but they're so smart and talented

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<v Speaker 1>that they can go outside the scheme a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and take themselves into great plays. And we saw that

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<v Speaker 1>with Christian Wilkins really frequently. I'm talking, of course about

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<v Speaker 1>he and Zach Seiler, and that's the benefit of having

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys be so durable, so dependable, and be

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the best condition on your entire football team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed every single week when I pull up the

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<v Speaker 1>snaps on a Monday morning and it says, Christian Wilkins played,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sixty five snaps that was nine of the workload,

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<v Speaker 1>and Zach Seeler played sixty three snaps. Like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy amount of basically going through a full workout every

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<v Speaker 1>snap between you know, your arms and your shoulders and

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<v Speaker 1>your core and your legs, and how you engage every

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<v Speaker 1>muscle on every single snap. It's a testament to their conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, it's built around those two guys who

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<v Speaker 1>can cheat the scheme, who are smart enough to anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>and understand what their keys say and where it takes

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<v Speaker 1>them in a given play. If this guard down blocks

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<v Speaker 1>the center, I know I can shoot that gap and

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<v Speaker 1>get in there and possibly, you know, shut down a

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<v Speaker 1>front side run or pursue a backside run because I

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<v Speaker 1>know we're going to set a strong edge on the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite side. We saw Wilkins do this time and time again,

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<v Speaker 1>backdoor a two gap responsibility and get the running back

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground for a loss. He's just so technically sound,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you watch the way he plays, he just

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<v Speaker 1>keys off the guy in front of him. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool to watch him process the play from pre

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<v Speaker 1>snap to when he makes the play in the backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>like his head's on the tackle, his eyes and the

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<v Speaker 1>tackle or the guard, and he makes his reactions based

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<v Speaker 1>upon that. It allows him to hold the point or

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<v Speaker 1>penetrate and just consistently be underneath his man, which leads

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<v Speaker 1>to stops in the backfield. It leads to record setting

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<v Speaker 1>tackle numbers, it leads to interior pressure from the pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush situation. It leads to a great, complete player who

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be surprised if we see go into the season

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<v Speaker 1>without a new contract. For Christian Wilkins. Both he and

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Seiler are capable of playing all the way inside

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<v Speaker 1>the one technique, which is your outside shade off the

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<v Speaker 1>center's shoulders, all the way out to that wide position

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<v Speaker 1>at the five technique where you're off the outside shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>of the tackle, And that type of versatility is so

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<v Speaker 1>damn important to know that you can draw up any front,

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<v Speaker 1>any technique, and you're gonna have these two guys like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about scheming up this system

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<v Speaker 1>for your players, Like, hey, we're gonna draw us up

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four and ninety two have got it. They're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna play fifty sixty snaps a game invaluable with Seeler.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's the strength and length the fourth down

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<v Speaker 1>and short production from Seiler describes his game in a

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<v Speaker 1>nutshell to me, the plower that he plays with often

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<v Speaker 1>puts guys in their heels, and it doesn't just lead

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<v Speaker 1>to production. It can disrupt the timing of the opposition's

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<v Speaker 1>play to the point that it impacts other people from

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<v Speaker 1>doing their job. Like I took this guard and ran

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<v Speaker 1>him back into the up back and now he can't

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<v Speaker 1>go make his blocks. It has a ripple effect as

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<v Speaker 1>this position group tends to do. Ray Kwon Davis is solid.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there could be more plays made at that

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<v Speaker 1>position off the nose, but it's a thankless job and

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<v Speaker 1>he does a good job of eating up double teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they do get movement on him, but that wingspan,

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<v Speaker 1>sheer size when it clicks for him, it really shows

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<v Speaker 1>up on those plays. But more consistency and more playmaking

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<v Speaker 1>there would be nice at that nose tackle position. I

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<v Speaker 1>think ray Kuan is capable of that, and then Bronson

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<v Speaker 1>and Twineman can push the roles. But you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see where there's a route here to add more players,

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<v Speaker 1>more depth. I thought last year they missed the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of Adam Butler. Finding a guy like that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran nose tackle would be a big addition for

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<v Speaker 1>this Dolphins defense if they can find it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if a Keem Hicks is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I keep thinking of that if he's gotten more

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<v Speaker 1>on the tank, could be a good addition here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still bummed about Ben Stilly getting plucked off the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought he had some good skills to work with and develop,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes that happens. Let's go ahead and take our

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<v Speaker 1>first break right there, come back on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about the edge, the linebackers, the dbs, and

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<v Speaker 1>the specialist. I guess the podcast is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>along today. That's next to Drift Time podcast, your host

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Field, brought to you by Auto Nation. If we

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<v Speaker 1>think that interior defensive line position, gosh, the edge, if

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive. This edge group is to me one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best position groups, not just on the football team,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the entire National Football League. Because I have

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<v Speaker 1>one blue player, a blue chip, top of the line

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<v Speaker 1>caliber player to meet that, Chelan Phillips. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>next two guys have been in that blue category as

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<v Speaker 1>recently as one or two years ago. Bradley Chubb and

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<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Ogba to me are in the green category, the

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<v Speaker 1>plus starters, and then I've got I've got above average

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<v Speaker 1>players as well, and Malik Reed and Andrew Van Ginkl

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<v Speaker 1>in my orange category, my third and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>three categories that if you've got that guy, you're happy

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<v Speaker 1>you have him and you feel good about their role

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<v Speaker 1>in the football team. And then Cameron good goes in

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<v Speaker 1>the incomplete category. Hasn't made his NFL debut yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has some traits to develop there. But this position group,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's embarrassment of riches. Phillips enjoyed that breakout year

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<v Speaker 1>where he was good for several pressures a game, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of run stops every game, give him a sack

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<v Speaker 1>every other game, a hit on the quarterback or two

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<v Speaker 1>per game, some ball production here and there. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Wilkins and Seeler's inside outside versatility. There are not

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<v Speaker 1>many guys in the league do what Jyalen Phillips does

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<v Speaker 1>from a pass, rush and run game perspective that can

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<v Speaker 1>then also kind of not kind of but kick inside

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<v Speaker 1>and produce and just impact the game from in there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And it's again more of a thankless job

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<v Speaker 1>to rush a guard. He can't get production from there,

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<v Speaker 1>but typically when he kicks in there, it's to free

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<v Speaker 1>up another edge outside of him. And if we do

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<v Speaker 1>get this roster with Phillips, Chubb and Ogba. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see a lot of that, like these pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush packages with those three guys. Put and put my

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<v Speaker 1>league read out there, like come on, man, how you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna block that stuff? But the fact that Phillips can

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<v Speaker 1>threaten the edge, force the quarterback to flee to the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the field and then chase him down

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<v Speaker 1>from the back allah Aaron Rodgers. We saw it with

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Pickett. There was another game he didn't I forget

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<v Speaker 1>which one it was, but to do that and then

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<v Speaker 1>one snap later, kick inside to the three technique, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the outside shoulder of the guard and rush and

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<v Speaker 1>get knocked back and create a laying against a three

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<v Speaker 1>d and twenty pound man to open up space for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. This dude's rare. Now. We saw his Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Day workout at Miami back when there was no combine

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<v Speaker 1>that year, paired with the Brett Coleman video where he

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<v Speaker 1>compared on both the Watt Brothers, like watch out. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is a I think this guy's Defensive Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year candidate material in terms of his ability, the

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<v Speaker 1>way he works and the way he puts it all together.

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<v Speaker 1>It just has his head screwed on the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's freaking Walter Peyton, Man of the Your nominee, won

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<v Speaker 1>the or Not the d Block Award, the Nat Moore

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<v Speaker 1>Community Service Award his Rookie Season Special Special Player. His

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<v Speaker 1>hustle and effort paired with rare rare traits like the burst,

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<v Speaker 1>the pass rush arsenal, the mental processing where he can

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<v Speaker 1>attack an opponent one way, see the way the opponent

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<v Speaker 1>refutes that attack, and then adjust his game. His pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush production last year, by the metrics say that he

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<v Speaker 1>could have had a lot more sacks. And now with

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey joined X and Cater, you get Brandon Jones back

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<v Speaker 1>Vic Fangino. Opposing quarterbacks should have to hold the ball

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit longer. And if that happens and

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<v Speaker 1>JP stays in the same trajectory we saw last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna get double digit sacks. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna threaten for a sack per game. Talking about

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen sacks, I think he'll be in discussion for Defensive

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year. I think very highly of this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think highly this defense, and this is a player

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<v Speaker 1>that I think could get national recognition for a potentially

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<v Speaker 1>big award like that. And that's just the first guy,

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<v Speaker 1>because next you've got Bradley Chubb, who was the first

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<v Speaker 1>i think defender taken off the board in that loaded

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen class. How did that one go? It went

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<v Speaker 1>Darnald or rather, I'm sorry Mayfield, who went second? Who

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<v Speaker 1>went second after me, oh Saquon Barkley and then Darnald

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<v Speaker 1>and then Denzel Award was fourth, so he was the

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<v Speaker 1>second defender off the board. There's some live podcasting for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's one of the best pass rushers in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>His speed and counter moves put tackles on an island

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<v Speaker 1>in such peril. And if you want double phillips like

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Chubb, one on one is not a fun matchup. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>having these two guys together is going to force offenses

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<v Speaker 1>on every single play to leave a premier pass rusher

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<v Speaker 1>one on one. And that's how even accounting for what

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<v Speaker 1>happens inside on the interior. And if you go deeper,

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<v Speaker 1>how about a guy who had eighteen sacks in two

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<v Speaker 1>fully healthy seasons here in Emmanuel Ogba went down with

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<v Speaker 1>a triceps injury last year, but he's been the closer

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<v Speaker 1>for this team for a while now, Like any end

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<v Speaker 1>of game situation like go to the Buffalo win. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year Week number three, it was his pass rush that

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<v Speaker 1>caused the hold that really put Buffalo in that position

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<v Speaker 1>where they got tackled in bounds, the clock expires, Dolphins win.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also one of the better run defending edges in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I think where this group could get a

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<v Speaker 1>little better is I saw it with Chubb a lot

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<v Speaker 1>last year. They jump inside sometimes and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>is something you give and take with pass rush. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious to see how much that rushland integrity is part

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<v Speaker 1>of this defense and the core principle of this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it will be, But I wonder how much

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<v Speaker 1>you might be willing to give up in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I give up my yap here to get

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<v Speaker 1>better pass rush production. I don't know. I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of speculating. But we'll see, Kerry's see if that changes

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<v Speaker 1>this year, because there were too many instances last year

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<v Speaker 1>where the edge was kind of folded in and there

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<v Speaker 1>were some big runs off the outside. But wait, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's more. We broke down Mali Reid's game last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, he can get after its speed, I discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>countermoves dropped into coverage. Really nice guy too, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I chance to meet him, like please and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>type of guy, which goes along with me, especially being

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<v Speaker 1>a West Coaster on the East Coast where it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that common I learned over my time here. You get

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew van Ginko back, his spatial awareness and ability to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of matchups when the opposition slides. His ability

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<v Speaker 1>to beat blocks, I thought has gotten so much better

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<v Speaker 1>from his time in Wisconsin, where he can play through guys,

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<v Speaker 1>not just have to get underblocks. Three down player actually

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<v Speaker 1>four down player's great on special teams as well. What

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<v Speaker 1>a valuable addition, or I should say resigning Andrew van

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<v Speaker 1>Ginkl was deepest group on the team. I would argue,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the deepest position groups in the NFL. You've

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<v Speaker 1>even got a nice developmental prospect there and Cameron Good

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<v Speaker 1>coming into year two after a year on the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you work with Austin Clark and what he

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<v Speaker 1>does up front, I wouldn't count anybody out with that

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<v Speaker 1>type of backing in their corner. Let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>move on next to the linebackers. I talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>at length on the Breakdown Pod. I just cannot say

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<v Speaker 1>enough when I think about David Long Junior and this defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in this defense you have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker who can react and beat players to the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to have a guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>beat blocks because of the frequency with which you see

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<v Speaker 1>the two high structures with the light boxes against favorable

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<v Speaker 1>run counts. Teams in the NFL nowadays, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>basically Fangio putting his mark on the entire league, teams

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to give up a little bit in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the running game to better protect against the passing game,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, four yards per carries a good number,

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<v Speaker 1>eight yards per passes a good number. So which one

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<v Speaker 1>would you choose? Give me the four yards every time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take a third and two over a first and

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<v Speaker 1>ten any day after two plays on offense. But David

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<v Speaker 1>Long Junior's ability to both anticipate, get the defense put

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<v Speaker 1>in the right position, and beat blocks makes him the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal linebacker to fulfill that defense. On top of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he can rush and drop into coverage as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So with Long and Baker, you've got two three down

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<v Speaker 1>players who have speed, pass rush ability, and coverage skills. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Long is better in terms of all those

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<v Speaker 1>things we just talked about. More naturally, I think Baker's

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<v Speaker 1>speed takes him to a lot of plays in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I have David Long Jr. As a

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<v Speaker 1>green player, a plus starter, and I think that with

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<v Speaker 1>some more recognition and some more exposure, could become a

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<v Speaker 1>blue player, but we'll have to wait a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>on that. I've got Jerome Baker as an orange player

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<v Speaker 1>that third category, the quality starter, and then I've got

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<v Speaker 1>Duke Riley as replacement level but also such an ace

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams. And then the final linebacker in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>which probably could see some additions here in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and UDFA class is Channing Tendel, who's purple the special

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<v Speaker 1>team slash not there's not enough evidence there yet for

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<v Speaker 1>what he can do. But that's that's a big upgrade

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<v Speaker 1>of what we had in the past. Typically, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>replacement level players pretty much from you know two on

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<v Speaker 1>in that room. And now you've got an adequate starter,

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<v Speaker 1>a plus starter, and some replacement level players beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the two guys that can do multiple things. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just so much more speed in this room now, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a single player here who when the

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<v Speaker 1>offense breaks the huddle, they say, hey, this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>great at this, but what if we can check to

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<v Speaker 1>something else and do that against him and expose his vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think they're also versatile and can fulfill a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of roles within a defensive package. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy out there who's just a B gap to

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<v Speaker 1>B gap plotting run defender who the Bills on a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and two down and there on the goal line

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<v Speaker 1>can check to a run and say, hey, if we

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<v Speaker 1>get single tarry on that linebacker, boom touchdown for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's not gonna happen because they can cover those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it will happen sometimes because football is hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get what I'm saying. It's a better opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for the defense to make a play when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that guy in the field with long The way

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<v Speaker 1>he beats blocks is really going to help in the

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<v Speaker 1>way you try to defend that run from those lighter boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so prevalent for these teams to play that lightbox.

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<v Speaker 1>The VIC Fangio effect, and he pioneered that type of

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<v Speaker 1>defense and philosophies have spread throughout the entire National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>The teams that are best at it have linebackers who

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<v Speaker 1>can take on blocks and still make plays. Not to

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<v Speaker 1>mention that you've got the guys up front. We just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about two ninety four that also do that as

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<v Speaker 1>well as any defensive lineman in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think long opens up so much. We know

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<v Speaker 1>about Baker's speed and the angles that he can take

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<v Speaker 1>to the quarterbacks as a rusher. I think maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>gets more of a rushing role this season in this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And how about how he runs with tight ends and

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<v Speaker 1>backs like Again, I don't think it's the same thing special,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can get in phase and he can just

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<v Speaker 1>run through the route and as long as it's not

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<v Speaker 1>to come back where they come back from the player

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<v Speaker 1>to the football where he gets flagged, he can make

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<v Speaker 1>pass breakups that way. It just gives you multiple options

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<v Speaker 1>for how to attack different teams. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Duke Riley was a big resigning because of his ability

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<v Speaker 1>to slide down off the edge. You can stay running

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>quarterback like Lamar Jackson, but also come back inside and

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<v Speaker 1>come off the bench and play coverage in a pinch.

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<v Speaker 1>His pass breakup against the Pats in Week one was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most impressive reps we had by a

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker all year from my money, where it's a Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>two look and he has to bust his butt down

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:00.679
<v Speaker 1>the seam on it. He was either Hunter Henry or

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<v Speaker 1>John hu Smith and he made a great PBu on

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<v Speaker 1>that play. He's got that type of ability. Then changing tendall,

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<v Speaker 1>he might be the most talented player in the entire group,

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<v Speaker 1>which is saying a lot, just hasn't played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football yet. I'm curious if the light comes on

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<v Speaker 1>for him this year maybe next year because of the

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<v Speaker 1>new defense and how challenging this defensive scheme is to

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>pick up. But he's so explosive, such a striker and

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so fluid moving in any direction. Man, I'm excited about

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>this group in twenty twenty three. I don't think they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be done yet because I think you need more than

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<v Speaker 1>four linebackers to go into a season with. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and take our last break. Comeback on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>do DBS and the specialist. That's next Draft Time podcast,

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, the cornerbacks, the safeties, and the specialists. Let's

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and start in that cornerback room where the

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins went out and once again added another Blue player.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey is a premier cornerback in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the premier cornerback. I have Xavien Howard and

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<v Speaker 1>kater coho Is plus is that green category, that very

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>coveted green category. I've got Nick Needham as a quality

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>starter when he's not even a starter in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>how that goes if you stack it up that way

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>based upon last year's production, and who knows, maybe Needham

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<v Speaker 1>does earn a spot back in the starting lineup. He's

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that good and that capable, But what quality depth. I

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<v Speaker 1>keep thinking about how good of a fourth he can

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<v Speaker 1>be for this defense. I think Trill Williams. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>scheme change, so I'm curious see how that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>changes the way he His perception isn't this defense. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's got skills. I saw all last training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Excited about his return. I'm very pumped up about Bethel

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson coming back. I've got both Trill and Bethel in

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<v Speaker 1>the purple category. Bethel because of his special team's prowess,

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<v Speaker 1>Trill because of the incomplete nature of his evidence his

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<v Speaker 1>film there's just not any of it. But for Bethel

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson like he also came off the bench last year

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<v Speaker 1>into pinch and played good cornerback too. Then I've got

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<v Speaker 1>three guys in that kind of rad category, Noah Eguenogny

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>keyon Crossing and Tino Ellis. But how about this room

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<v Speaker 1>looking where it does right now compared to back in December,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get need Him back, you get Trill back,

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<v Speaker 1>and you drop in probably the best cornerback in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. Just from those top three guys alone,

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the tackling at the position is so good, which again

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the idea of playing too high requires the skill to

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<v Speaker 1>be sharp. And as listening to Daniel Jeremiah on the

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast earlier this week where he talked about how the

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<v Speaker 1>days of Dion Sanders saying you pay me to cover,

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>not tackle, are long gone because teams will scheme up

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the running game to basically leave the corner that can't

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<v Speaker 1>tackle unblocked and force that guy to be your force

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<v Speaker 1>defender and come up and make a play with kator

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Coho never have to worry about that. With Xavien Howard

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about that, and Jalen Ramsey, you

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>sure as hell don't have to worry about that. But

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>kater I can think he can play anywhere. He was

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<v Speaker 1>great in the slot last year. The way he can

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<v Speaker 1>fit the run from that nickel position, it reminds me

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>of Ron Johnson and Buffalo and what he affords that

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<v Speaker 1>defense that never leaves its nickel package. Then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>main part, the coverage skills. Think about your ability to

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<v Speaker 1>match up against a given opponent. Last year, most weeks

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>we were lucky to have three healthy corners for a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can really pick and choose. We don't know

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>how the roles will work out. But Jalen Ramsey and

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<v Speaker 1>that potential star role is super intriguing for his ability

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to move around. Like I think back to the Belichick

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>with you Know Vas days when it was like, hey,

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they're best receivers are tight end. Why don't we have

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Revas cover the tight end? Okay, like Ramsey can do that.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I see him with you know that Gilmore Durell Revas

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<v Speaker 1>type of influence for the Patriots defense and how they

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<v Speaker 1>would use that guy in their best player. I think

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Xavian Howard's ability to lock down one side of the

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>field pairs perfectly with that, like, hey, go cover the

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>number two receiver. X can do that as good as

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>anybody in the National Football League. And then cater Co,

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>who's sticky coverage inside on top of rolling help to

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>those various positions like good luck man. I feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same way right now that I felt about the offense

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>last year, where it's like I don't see the solution

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>outside of injuries for the opposition to overcome this team.

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that good. This is where this team

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>can really really get after it. Getting those three guys

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>playing up to their skill level with this pass rush

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>watch out man, then the depth is just so much improved.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of a better fit for that fourth

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>role than Nick. Need him. He can play any position

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and you can just basically have him wherever you need

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to come into a game, like hey, Jalen's down, Nick,

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>get out there, Caters down, Nick, get out there, Trull Williams.

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of upside, we just haven't had

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>a chance to see it yet. His injury was so

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 1>early that he'll be twelve months removed from the injury

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>come training camp. And then again, don't sleep on the

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Bethel Johnson resigning special teams ace but great in coverage

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>last year. Then you've got crossing an Igbo who played

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of snaps last year and got some valuable

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>experience and also have some special teams value there as well.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>So deep room one year after it was the opposite

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>with the attrition the way it wore it down in

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the secondary or the final part of the secondary. Here

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the defensive backfield, the safeties. Five of those guys as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a blue player in Javon Holland, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a green player, a plus starter, and Brandon Jones Deshaun

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Elliott I have in the orange category as a quality player.

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>And then I've got purple on Elijah Campbell and Ron

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>McKinley for the fact that they haven't played a lot

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of defense and just early in their careers and wet

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>behind their ears and special teams. Primarily, just getting Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Jones back alone is such a huge plus to the

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<v Speaker 1>room because his ability to time up his runs and

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<v Speaker 1>blitz both the run and the passes something I think

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>he does better than anybody else the entire roster. That

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>on top of his ability to play multiple roles and

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>how you have to be interchangeable at safety with Javon

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Holland go back last year and watch the defense before

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Jones got hurt and after, and it changed completely.

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<v Speaker 1>The way they communicate with each other is going to

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<v Speaker 1>help in terms of how this defense can play faster

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and the way they prepare that is invaluable in this

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>defense that we've heard described as a safety's defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought last year Javon had to play so far back

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to help mitigate some of the injuries outside. But with

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>x Ramsey and Cater, I think you could see him

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>freed up to do more blitzing, to buzz the middle

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of the field, to spy the quarterback. He can do anything,

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think Vic Fangio and this defense and the

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>personnel around him can unlock that. It's like samething to

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about toua yeah to confidence help to take his

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>game to the next level. We saw the confidence Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>May be it waned a little bit it was back

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and it helps him make those tight window

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>throws and ripped that thing time and time again, even

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>if you have a miss, go back to up rip

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>bit shooter, shoot play with confidence. You'll get the best

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of yourself. I see the same thing with you know,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Javon Holland in terms of putting guys around him, putting

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it Tyree Kill around him, Jalen Ramsey around him like

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna make his game even better. To Sean Elliott

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>fulfills those roles in a similar way. Also getting to

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>know him a little bit here, He's got the mentality

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you want and it matches with his play. A striker,

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>explosive as hell, kind of a dog off the bench

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>who comes in and gives you a different level of

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>energy and spark. Elijah Campbell's a tremendous special teamer. I

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>love his addition to some deep sub packages. You're half

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>dollar and dime packages. And Verne McKinley got some experienced

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>last year. Is that true backup safety? He's kind of

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the only true backup safety on the roster. It's just

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>crazy how much the depth has really improved here and

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>everywhere across the football team. I've got Sanders and Bailey

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in the orange category for specialists, in Blake Ferguson in

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>the yellow category. I don't know much about the fine

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>up points of kicking, punting, and long snapping. We've now

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>got the twenty twenty All Pro Team kicker and punter

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>first team. Both guys have plenty of distance with powerful legs,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and I don't recall a botch snap last year, but

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>there was lots of snaps on the ground that Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Morse had had to scoop up like a shortstop. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that gets better this year. But there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do it again at some point later in the summertime.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's hard to not be excited about what they

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<v Speaker 1>have right now on this roster. And that will do

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode. But I had to log back

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<v Speaker 1>in to talk some golf, and I'll keep it too

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<v Speaker 1>about a minute here. But I wrapped up around at

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Palms and Pembroke Pines and I wasn't aware of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd only played there in the morning one time before.

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<v Speaker 1>I played at a four o'clock tea time on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night and the course was almost empty. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>play alone, didn't have to go with a partner up

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody. I did pass through two groups of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course you're going to say, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you play by yourself, Travis. But I shot

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<v Speaker 1>a pr a personal best eighty two at the Grand Palms,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely crushing the ball off the tea, getting my hybrid

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<v Speaker 1>going on the fairways as well, just getting lots of

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<v Speaker 1>distance on those two clubs. Absolutely dialed on the chipping.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this Bryson d Shambo tutorial I know Worre

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<v Speaker 1>Sky to watch. Everyone says that to me, might tell

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<v Speaker 1>them that, but he taught me about closed face chipping.

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<v Speaker 1>I instituted that and was putting the ball next to

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<v Speaker 1>the cup all day long. Just felt really good a

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<v Speaker 1>man around. That took about two and a half hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was with taking several videos to share with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of my buddies at work and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of friends. I could have gotten that round in under

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. About to play a little bit more tempo,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more speed, but having that rhythm to play

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<v Speaker 1>off of man freaking awesome and an eighty two at

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<v Speaker 1>Graham Palms. Your boy has the bug PGA Tour coming next.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's gonna be my timehal on Draftime podcast.

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