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Speaker 1: for getting into a quick Jim in may focus and

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I've got a two thousand one Jeep Wrangler.

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Speaker 1: Suzu parts, You drive down here, you tell us what

422
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: you want us to order, You pay us, we'll clip,

423
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 1: will cast the check, when the check clears, will order

424
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: the parts, and when they show up, we'll call you.

425
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: I was like, right, right, boy, I said, boy, where's

426
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: Joe's Is it what I need him? I mean, you know,

427
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: maybe that actor passed. Maybe I shouldn't say it like

428
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: this kiddingly around, but where is that guy? Right? You

429
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: don't see him on TV anymore? He just vanished. Um

430
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 1: that was his claim to fame. He did, he did.

431
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: Those are Suzu commercials. I think he appeared in one episode.

432
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: I think he appeared in one episode of Married with Children,

433
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: But that's a whole another story. Um, he did anyway.

434
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: I've even posted I've even posted this problem to Australian forms.

435
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking we're zoos is actually selling vehicles. Um in Australia.

436
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: They sell him as Holden's and uh, I'm getting nothing. Um,

437
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: no one's coming back, you know, with any kind of uh,

438
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: you know, with any kind of help. So anyway, go ahead,

439
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, so let's go back. So did

440
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: they clear the memory to turn in the light out?

441
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: That they did? They cleared the memory at the Chansfer

442
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: case they jumper pins one in twenty nine and thirty

443
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: to thirty six and they turned the switch on and

444
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: it it cleared the jump and it went through all

445
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: that nonsense. Ye okay, and the light and the light

446
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: was out, so you know they was out right. So

447
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: they realized at that point they've got a check. They've

448
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: got to go through them. They've got to go through

449
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: the checks for the actualator. Did they realize that has

450
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: it right? Has anybody done that? Or we are we

451
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: just assuming that? You know, I don't think I don't

452
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: think they have. UM. I think you know, the guy

453
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: just said, you're probably gonna end up bringing it back

454
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: more than once, okay, Um, he uh. He actually solved

455
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: a uh, solved the long term problem where it just

456
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: shuts off on hot water or hot weather. Okay, not

457
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: that we have that much of it here in North Dakota,

458
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: but occasionally it does get hot. Yeah, I think. I

459
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: think the third Tuesday of July, you guys get gets warm.

460
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: The snows melted by then. Uh, every once in a while,

461
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I heard a joke where somebody had

462
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: to chip apart out of a glacier, um, you know,

463
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: in order to get it because it was the only

464
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: one left in the whole United States. Then you're in

465
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 1: the state anyway, I get it. Um, do this, do

466
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: this before I let you go, Jeff, not that I'm

467
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: trying to get ridy. I love you. UM, send me

468
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: an email. Send an email Ron at car Doctor show

469
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: dot com. I I know there's more than a few

470
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 1: commentaries on this in the database. Um uh. And I'll

471
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: be glad to convert him into PDF and send him

472
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: to it's test procedures for the actuator. But okay, that'd

473
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: be great, you know, but the you know, the David

474
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Leisure was the actor's name. Um, but don't ask me

475
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, they just come back to me. You know, um,

476
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: but you know the real question is where are you

477
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: gonna get parts? It's it's insane, uh you know. So

478
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Is you're a GM engineer?

479
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? Did I hear you right?

480
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: Did you say that? Did I Did I hear you

481
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: say that right? I'm not a GM engineer? No? Or

482
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: you didn't? Or did you work? I'm actually by trade

483
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: on an aircraft mechanic okay, a frame, power plant instrument. Okay,

484
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: all right, well good for you. Listen. Some of the

485
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: smartest guys I know were aircraft mechanics. So, um, you

486
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: know it's you know, it's along the line of your

487
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: dad fly you know what I mean? What the heck?

488
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: So you gotta start somewhere, and that's we're back in

489
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. I became a mechanic. Listen, and I

490
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: think I think the aircraft mechanics have a lot more

491
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: pressure on them because, as my father always said, you know,

492
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: when the engine starts to run rough at ten thousand feet,

493
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: you can't pull over and park on a cloud to

494
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: check it out. So you've got to be sure you're

495
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: right every time, and when you go low. It may

496
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: get worse, right, yeah, it's who Usually it does. Um,

497
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: usually it does. So alright, brother, you send me an

498
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: email Ron at Card Doctor Show dot com. I'll get

499
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: some information to you. Yes, sir, I surely will. Thank

500
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: you for all your help. You're very welcome, Jeff, good

501
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: luck to you and keep us posted. Umy. As a

502
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: matter of fact, David Leisure, I'm gonna show you how

503
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: much the way. I don't know why I remember that.

504
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: You know, when I get old and I get when

505
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: I get like when I get older, ha ha, beat

506
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: you to it. You're old and crotchety, like you said,

507
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: when I get older and I and I get Alzheimer's

508
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: and I start spitting out things. Um, it's gonna be

509
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: weird what comes out of my head. But I remember

510
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: David Leisure. He was that episode of Married with Children

511
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: when Bud was on the dating game and he was

512
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: trying to Bud was trying to get a date, and

513
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: um David David Leisure was the host. And every time

514
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: I look at that commercial, I go, Joe is Suzu

515
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: no wonder The company fell apart eight five five five

516
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero running nay of the

517
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: card doctor coming back. That's right. If you call and

518
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: we're not live, you can leave a message and we'll

519
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: call you back to get you on the air with

520
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: Ron zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron, there

521
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: he is. Oh, that must be me. Let's get on

522
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: them and talk to Ken across Wisconsin O three for Explorer. Hey, Ken,

523
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: how are you today? What's going on? We're doing good.

524
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: I've got a forward explored it. All of a sudden

525
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: it started just started missing. When you come to an idol,

526
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: when you come to a stop sign, missing really bad.

527
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: And I had an autopart store plugging a computer on

528
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: check it out and it says B one S one,

529
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: B two S one stuck lean. Alright, so so bank

530
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: one oxygen sensor stuck clean. Now, now let me just

531
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: black up a second. Which engine is? This is the

532
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: eight or the six? Is the four oh or the

533
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: four six six? This is the this is the this

534
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: is the the four oh six. So so so it's

535
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: set a fold code that that the bank one censor

536
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: one was stuck lean? Was it? Both banks are just

537
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: bank one? No, both of them, both of them are stuck.

538
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: That's why I'm actually calling you because it's hard to

539
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: believe that both of them would go at the same time.

540
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: You didn't change him, did you. I haven't changed nothing.

541
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: You don't change don't don't don't change them. Yeah, I

542
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: don't think this is I don't think these are beat

543
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: O twos. So and here's the here's the problem with

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: just Hey, this is what the code says. Now we've

545
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: got to start to think, right, we gotta use that

546
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: gray matter God gave us between our ears. And you're

547
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: absolutely right, it's sort of strange that both sensors would

548
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: fail at the same time. Like you're like, you're like,

549
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: you're stating and I agree with that. Um any other

550
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: problems with this car now you're saying it misses or

551
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: the idol is high. No, well it starts up in

552
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: idols and but didles higher than normal? All right? How

553
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: much higher? I'm on start up? Not? I mean, I

554
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain that, but well, idols higher

555
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: and it's not super fast or anything, Okay, But I

556
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: mean if if, if, if, do you have attack in

557
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: this car? You have attack in this car? Right, So normally,

558
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: normally when it's starts up and it's warm, it probably

559
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: idles around seven and hunter rpm is it. I really

560
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: never noticed at the time. Okay, then how do you

561
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: know it's idling fast? And I'm not being a wise guy,

562
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm asking that question. Oh yeah, then I guess, I

563
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: guess I can't say that to me. It just seems

564
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: like it. All right. So is a check engine light on? Yes?

565
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: All right. So if you were walking into a repair

566
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: shop not having any knowledge that anything was scanned you're

567
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: coming to them would be Hey, I've got this oh

568
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: three explorer outside and it does what It starts up

569
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: and back and back out of my driveway. I drive

570
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: it up to the stops first op signed to get

571
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: down to the highway, and Idle just drops and starts irregularly,

572
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: running the whole engine. You can see, you can feel

573
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: it missing and shaking kind of. So it runs rough, yes,

574
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: and then and then I can take off from that

575
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: stop sign. But the next time I have to come

576
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: to a stop, it seems to run fine, but until

577
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: I have to come to a stop, and then it

578
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: starts running irregularly. AI leaned irregularly and running rough. Okay.

579
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: So so that so the the the the symptom or

580
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the condition here would be that it runs rough at idle. Yes,

581
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: all right, And they came up with both banks running lean. Yes,

582
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: And actually they also came up with it's a random

583
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: misfire code, you know, Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.

584
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: And I kind of I took that. I kind of

585
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: took that as maybe whatever's wrong with it, that's why

586
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: it's misfiring or whatever. But I don't know what what

587
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: piece or what it may be. Well, so far, what

588
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: you've given me, you've given me the conditions, but we

589
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: haven't narrowed it down to what's actually going on in

590
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: terms of the actual fault. So you know, it's it's

591
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: running rough, it's got a misfire to it, and it's

592
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: got a lean condition, all right. So you know, the

593
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: next thing I want to do is i'd want to

594
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: take it. I'd want to take a scan tool and

595
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: go look at fuel trim. You don't have the scan tool, right,

596
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: you went to the parts house. Okay, that's all right,

597
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: It happens, um, you know, it's it's just that the

598
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: tools only as good as in the hands of the

599
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: guy that's using it. So the next step is, I

600
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: know I got an engine that runs up. I know

601
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I've got an engine that it's it appears to be

602
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: running lean. I want to verify it. I want to

603
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: go in and I want to look at fuel trim.

604
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: You you you've started more than a few fires up

605
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: there in Wisconsin right sitting in front, sitting in front

606
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: of the fireplace. Sometimes sometimes you get a lot of it.

607
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: We do a lot of it outdoor. Yeah that's true too, um.

608
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: But you you get when you get more than a

609
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: few fires where it's a nice even burn and it's

610
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: it's just got a nice warm glow to it and

611
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: it's not flaring up and it's not smoking and chuggling down.

612
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: That's a nice even burn. That's a good running engine.

613
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: And then if you want to go and kick it

614
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: up a little bit, you over there and fan the

615
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: fire and you put a lot of oxygen into it,

616
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it flares up more and

617
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of oxygen in that fire. That's a

618
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: lean run an engine. Okay. And then every once in

619
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: a while your kids want you to go out there

620
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: and start that fire using some wet pine wood that's soaked,

621
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: and you kind of get it started, but it's smoky

622
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: and it stinks and it doesn't really run that rough

623
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: and run right, Well, and it sort of coughts, and

624
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: that's an engine that's running rich. It it can't have

625
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: complete combustion. Well, we can measure that with a scan tool.

626
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: We can go and look and see and and and

627
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: one of the things we can look at is we

628
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: can look at fuel trim as an actual number. And

629
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: it it kind of comes back to those days in

630
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: high school, you know math, when we took that with

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Speaker 1: the timeline and we said, you got you know, the

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Speaker 1: x and the y axis and the zero in the middle,

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Speaker 1: and we looked at the number line and anything to

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Speaker 1: the right of the number was was was considered positive,

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Speaker 1: and anything to the left of the zero was considered negative. Well,

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Speaker 1: in this case, our fuel trim is lean, we're expecting

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Speaker 1: to see a higher than normal number, higher than zero

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Speaker 1: number we're probably gonna see. I believe that code sets

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Speaker 1: a fuel trimp. So now why as the engine running lean?

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Speaker 1: And I'd be more inclined to think about vacuum leaks

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Speaker 1: in take ducks that have fallen off and possible other

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Speaker 1: issues that are creating a lean condition before I started

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Speaker 1: diving into an engine that's misfiring, a physical ignition misfire.

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Speaker 1: So we gotta get it into a shop. We gotta

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Speaker 1: find somebody that understands what fuel trim is and you

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Speaker 1: can use that in your conversation. Hey, you know, my

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Speaker 1: brother in law was a mechanic. I called him. He

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Speaker 1: lives in Florida, and tell me lives in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Make me your brother in law and tell me wants

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Speaker 1: you to go in and look at fuel trim. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just I'm gonna give you the credit that nobody else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just you know you do. You guys have the

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Speaker 1: ability to look at fuel trim and see if the

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Speaker 1: guy understands it, if his eyes don't roll around in

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Speaker 1: his head, he's the guy. I gotta go. I'm up

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Speaker 1: against the clock. You call me back next week. Let

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Speaker 1: me know how you make out. All right, Ken, I'm

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Speaker 1: running ating in the Car Doctor will be back right

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Speaker 1: after this up. That's all right with me. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. What would a week on the Car

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Speaker 1: Doctor b without a phone call from Bob and Phillisburg,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. Volkswagen Parts Robert. Welcome back, sir, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back? Yes? Uh, I just want to say thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your show. I uh, I love

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Speaker 1: your honesty. You give me lots of ambition, and yes,

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Speaker 1: you do give us faith and hope. Well, I appreciate that, Bob,

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Speaker 1: I really do what's going on? You find transmission parts? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did. I spent quite a bit of time. UH

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Speaker 1: found a complete overhaul set it's coming from the UK.

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Speaker 1: And I found a uh final drive gas cas set

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Speaker 1: coming from the Philippines. So yeah, My question is says,

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Speaker 1: let's say if you were working on a car and

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Speaker 1: you actually had ten minutes of actual work that you

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Speaker 1: spent about four hours doing research, and we justify the

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Speaker 1: bell been four hours doing research. Well, and I think

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Speaker 1: the conversation there becomes that when when somebody brings you

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Speaker 1: an odd bowl car and it happens, it's not just Volkswagen.

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Speaker 1: Somebody brought us a fifty six old Once they understood

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Speaker 1: research time got build at this and and parts time

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Speaker 1: got build at that. Um, you know, it becomes part

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Speaker 1: of the process. Time is time. You account for it

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Speaker 1: a little different, but you still gotta get paid for it.

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Speaker 1: But the valid question, and I like the way you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: good luck, Bob, let us know what happens. I'm not

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Speaker 1: an any of the car doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. See it