1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Good evening, and welcome into Turning Point tonight. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: We're together. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Among 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the many fascinating conversations we had at the Student Action 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Summit in Tampa, not all that long ago, was Scott Jennings. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: If you don't know who Scott Jennings is, you may 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: not have the Internet. Scott Jennings is the sole voice 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: of reason on CNN, and it's so funny to watch 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: him just go back and forth with all of these 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: libs surrounding him in the circular table. We got a 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: chance to sit down and talk with Scott, and I 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: thought that the conversation was fascinating, so we'd like to 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: play it for you. Here. Watch this Scott Jennings. So 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I hear you have a book. Here's what I'm hoping. Yeah, 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I have a suspicion that the former president was not 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: exactly as cognizant as we all were told, and I'm 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: hoping someone from CNN writes a book dispelling the idea 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: that he was competent and there and with it. 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: Is that what your book is about? 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: Well, my colleague Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson wrote that 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: book called Original Sin. It can all be told now. 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: By the way, we don't know who was running the 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: country the last four years. Now my book explains who's 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: running it right now, which is Donald J. 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: Trump. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: That's my observation is the nerve center is in the 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: Oval Office. The President's behind the resolute desk, he's calling 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: the shots. We actually have a president again. And so 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: the name of my book is a Revolution of common sense. 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: How Donald Trump storm Washington and fought for Western civilization. 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: My observation is, I don't know what I mean honestly, 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: what was going on for leadership in this country for 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: four years. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: I think it's a big reason people went back to Trump. 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: They wanted a strong president. They wanted a strong American president. 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: People respond to leadership. We have it now. 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you are, like I said earlier, you've become 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: the Every time I'm scrolling through X I see video 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: clips of you just dunking on people. What is it 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: like in that studio after you go off air. What's 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: the relationship like between Bacari and some. 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: Of the other folks. 43 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, for all my CNN colleagues, I 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: love them all. Yeah, we're a family, you know. We 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time together off the air. We 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: travel together. We you know, we we you know for 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: the shows. You see, if I were out there for 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: five minutes, you know, we might have been sitting there 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: for a half an hour, an hour. So we spend 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: a lot of time together. You get to know people, 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: and I really do love them all. It's very collegial, 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: you know. 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: We have to have a few people who come in 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: to get a little bit out of shape. But you know, 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: a good rule of punitry is you can't take us personally. Yeah. 56 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Once it's over, it's over. 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're all gonna fight hard, and that's what's 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: expected of us. I think CNN actually deserves a lot 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: of credit for putting the ten o'clock debating show on 60 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: the air. Yeah, Newsnight with Abbey Phillip is the only 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: show like it on TV. It's the only real debating 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: show and it's been a great platform for me for 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: the last year now to go out and fight for 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: what we believe in. I like a lot of cable 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: as just people sitting around agreeing. That's not what we're doing. 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: We're fighting it out. Sometimes it gets a little tense, 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: but that's Okay. 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: Everywhere I go, for. 69 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: People who like what I'm doing and like what I say, 70 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: or people who don't like what I say, they all 71 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: say the same thing. 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: We love the debates. 73 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: This content is needed, and so I think CNN deserves 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: a lot of credit for doing it. They're reaping the 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: benefits of doing it. We got great ratings on that show. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: I think it's good for America. We're trying to model debates. 77 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: The country was founded on debates, So I think my 78 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: colleagues also see it that way. And you know, my 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: two best friends at the network are David Axelrod and 80 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: Van Jones. 81 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: Thoughtful guys. Don't agree on much with him. 82 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: Sometimes Van and I are in agreement on a few things, 83 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: but you know, we open our hearts and our ears 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: to each other before we open our mouths, which is 85 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: a good rule of life. 86 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: I've had that. 87 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: I obviously don't know Van well, but he's always been a. 88 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: Nice He's nice, he's thoughtful, he loves he loves human beings, 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: he loves his fellow Americans. He's not illiberal. He also 90 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: believes in conversation and debate. I think something going on 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: the left right now is. 92 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: This idea that, well, we shouldn't have debate, we should. 93 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Just silence you. That's not the kind of progressive that 94 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: Van is. And I'll tell you what else I admire 95 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: about Van and acts. They are almost always willing to 96 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: tell their own side things I don't. 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 4: Want to hear. 98 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, Axelrod was one of the first people saying 99 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 3: Joe Biden does not fit for office. And Van Jones, 100 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: of course, has been a rock on supporting Israel and 101 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: its fight against Hamas and Iran. They take a lot 102 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: of grief sometimes for telling their own people a hard truth. 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: I admire that. 104 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Is there a particular issue that you feel like you're 105 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: making a dent on your panelist colleagues, that You're like, 106 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: I'm getting through to them, and obviously it takes time 107 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: after time after time. 108 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you think you might move the 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: needle on in their minds? You know? 110 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: I would like to think that on the issue of immigration, 111 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: which we've debated endlessly, that I'm trying to inject some 112 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: common sense into this because what we had for four 113 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: years was just chaos, and people rejected it, they hated it. 114 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: Trump's got a huge mess to clean up. 115 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: So I don't know whether I'm making a dent, but 116 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: I think for the audience, I'm trying to explain, like, 117 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: here's what the president is doing, and here's why he's 118 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: doing it. 119 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: I think on the issue of supporting. 120 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: Israel against Thomas, supporting them against Iran, you know, look, 121 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: there's not that many people in Western media who support Israel. 122 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. 123 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: I wear the hostage pen every night because there were 124 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: American hostages taken. They attacked us too, and so I'd 125 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: like to think I'm trying to inject some information into 126 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: what I think has been a lot of misinformation about 127 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: the war over there. So that's another issue that maybe 128 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: I've made a difference on. But you know, it's not 129 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: really for my colleagues as much as it is for 130 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: the audience of course, the people watching and the millions 131 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: who are watching these clips. I want to give the 132 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: best faith effort I can, the best analysis and the 133 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: best argument for how conservatives in Middle America is seeing 134 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: the news on any given day. 135 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: They deserve a voice. 136 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of cable doesn't include anybody 137 00:05:59,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: from Middle America. 138 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't include a conservative voice. 139 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: So I'm doing both, you know, I'm I'm trying to 140 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: give them my best effort every night. 141 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean, half the country needs to be represented at 142 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: the table. Amen. 143 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: I think we do ourselves a disservice to not recognize 144 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the political wins that this Axelrod and 145 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: Obama created in terms of making him into a figure 146 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: that he was. The same thing happened on the Trump side, 147 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: you made, and it's this intangible thing that it's hard 148 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: to kind of quantify what that is. Do you see 149 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: that amongst anybody else outside of Trump on the conservative 150 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: side of the aisle? That And I can't explain it 151 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: because it can't be explained. But I think you know 152 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. 153 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you can explain it, and I don't 154 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: think you can replicate it. 155 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 5: Hmm. 156 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: He's one of a kind, yeah, And whatever it is 157 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: that he has, and if you're around him, and I've 158 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: been around him some lately, you sense it, you understand 159 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: it in the moment, like you see it in action. 160 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't think you can replicate it. I mean, everybody's different. 161 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: And you know, whoever we nominate in twenty twenty eight, 162 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: I think jd Vance is a front runner, but they'll 163 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: be a primary I'm sure, but you're never going to 164 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: be able to. 165 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: Mimic Trump. You got to be your own person. 166 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: I do think one thing about politics is it has 167 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: to be authentic to you. You're trying to go out 168 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: and replicate Trump or trying to go out and take 169 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: positions that you don't actually believe in. People crave authenticity, 170 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: and they can smell the other thing from a mile away. 171 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Well, the authenticity part is incredible because President Trump doesn't 172 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: do the hokey things that other politicians would do in 173 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: order to try to be authentic. But like if they 174 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: go to Sturgis, right, they'll throw on the jacket, they'll 175 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: sit on the motorcycle. Trump shows up, says I don't 176 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: really like motorcycles, and for some reason, the lack of 177 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: trying to fake authenticity ends. 178 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: Up being authentic. 179 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: If there's one thing as communications professionals we should learn 180 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: from Donald Trump, it's that authenticity is king right now. 181 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: You know, the era of the scripted puppet, the era 182 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: of the you know, let's hand this politician to script 183 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: and you know, hope they read it correctly. 184 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: That's over. 185 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what Kamala Harris was. That's why she 186 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: didn't do much new media. 187 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: She couldn't. 188 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she was not capable of it. She 189 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 3: was not that kind of political athlete. But the people 190 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: who I think succeed in media and politics from now 191 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: on are going to be people who are just kind 192 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: of unafraid to be themselves, be authentic in the moment, 193 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: talk from the heart. 194 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: People will actually forgive you. You know, they don't need 195 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: you to speak perfectly, They just need you to speak authentically. 196 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: And you know that's That's not the politics I grew 197 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: up with. 198 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: I mean, the goal was always to be perfect, Read 199 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: the script correctly, you know, do it just right. Get 200 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: the hand gestures. That's what Nikki Hayley would do. She's 201 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: one of the best of all time at hand gestures. 202 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: They were the same in every speech. It was rehearsed, 203 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 3: and that's fine, and there's a you know, that's one 204 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: way to do it. It's just that's not in vogue 205 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: right now. Authenticity, be real. In fact, advice Freddy candidate 206 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: right now, be real, be real, be real now? 207 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: Would that be potentially advice that you'd give to candidate 208 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings at any point? 209 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't ruled anything in or out. 210 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: My grandfather was an elected. 211 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: Official when I was a kid, and I always admired it. 212 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: I've worked on a lot of campaigns in my life, 213 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: and I admire people who have the guts to sign up. 214 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. I don't know. Cool, you told 215 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: us briefly, tell us about the book. 216 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm totally It's not the cognitive decline of 217 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. 218 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: Nope, it's how we're digging the country out of the 219 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: ditch of the cognitive decline. 220 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Of Joe Biden. 221 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: So the book is called a revolution of common sense, 222 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: which is a phrase that President Trump used in the 223 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: inaugural address. It jumped off the page at me when 224 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: he said it. I was sitting on the set at CNN. 225 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 3: Jumped off the page. I thought, this is like the 226 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: best description. 227 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: Of what we're doing that I've ever heard. 228 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 229 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: I pitched him on it in February. He agreed, spent 230 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: some time with him in the Oval. I went to 231 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: Michigan with him one hundredth day in office. I interviewed 232 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: cabinet secretaries, interviewed Eli. So I've got some good interviews, 233 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: my own observations, my own analysis. 234 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 235 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: So It's about eighty five thousand words, and I'm pretty 236 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: proud of it. 237 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: I've never written a book. It was hard to do. 238 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 2: I wrote it. 239 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I wrote it five different times. Yeah, 240 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: because things are always changing. I think what Faulkner or 241 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: somebody once said, good books are never finished, only abandoned. 242 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: So I recently abandoned mine and it's off at the printer. 243 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Now you sure Faulkner didn't say liking that earned booking. 244 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: That's a Faulkner reference, if you get it. Scott Jennings, 245 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time. I really appreciate it. 246 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having men. You can go 247 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: up by the way. You go on Amazon or wherever 248 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: you buy your books and pre order it. It comes out 249 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: in November the eighteenth. Awesome man, Thank you, Thank you 250 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Always a fun time with Scott Jennings again 251 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: the sole voice of reason on c And then after 252 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: the break, Monica Page checks in with borders are Tom 253 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: Hooeman and also James o'keith shares some words of wisdom 254 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: and what he's working on. 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Tom, thank you so much for being 271 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 9: here with us. I want to get your opinion on 272 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 9: something that just came out of La County. It's board 273 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 9: of supervisors just voted you unanimously to draft the new 274 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 9: ordinance prohibiting immigration officers and federal agents from wearing masks 275 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 9: when doing their jobs, except for carrying any sort of 276 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 9: medical procedures. What's your reaction to this? 277 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 10: Good luck with that. We're gonna keep doing what we're doing. 278 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 10: Did they propose any sort of rule on unmasking Antifa 279 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 10: or unmasking the protesters are during violent in LA that 280 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 10: attacked our ice officers, assaulted ice officers, that ruin destroyed 281 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 10: maions of dollars in federal property, that attacked, attacked LAPD 282 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 10: and the LA County shares. How about the man that 283 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 10: threw molotov cocktail on the officers, which is a deadly issue. 284 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 10: Any rules on. 285 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 9: That, of course not doesn't appear to be well, it 286 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 9: take some republic safety. And to that point on Antifa, 287 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 9: does this administration have any plans to rule Antifa as 288 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 9: a domestic terror organization due to its actions against our 289 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 9: own ice agents and federal agents. 290 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 10: I don't know if any discussions concerning that. 291 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 9: And in the meantime, you are planning a trip to 292 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 9: Seattle and Portland. Our very own Jonathan show here at 293 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 9: Frontlines with turning point is out there on the ground 294 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 9: covering the insane riots and protests happening out there. 295 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 11: Do you have a date locked in? 296 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 9: Are you ready to go to Seattle in Portland? Taking 297 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 9: on that state those cities. 298 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 10: I'm going there very soon. I'm going to be their 299 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 10: shoulder short of men and women ice and put them 300 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 10: They put their safety at risk every day. We're moving 301 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 10: in the worst of the worst means country, and I'm 302 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 10: going to show them that I got their six I'm 303 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 10: proud of what they're doing. So no one's going to 304 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 10: intimidate us not to do our job and clean. 305 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 9: Me What will be your main focus in Portland and 306 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 9: Seattle when you travel. 307 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 10: There to meet when women, men and women of ice 308 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 10: and let them know we got their back, let them 309 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 10: know we got their sixth and we understand the difficulty 310 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 10: they have out there and it's their very dangerous job. 311 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 10: We're going to give them protection they need. We'll give 312 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 10: them equipment they need, a technology need. We're going to 313 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 10: keep doing what they're doing. 314 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 11: Thank you so much, Tom, I appreciate it. 315 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: If I were to rank my favorite officials in the 316 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Trump administration, Tom Holman would be pretty high up that 317 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: hotel poll. Thanks Monica Page. Great interview. James o'keith is 318 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: one of the leading voices in exposing just insanity going 319 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: on in the government, going on in private corporations, just everywhere. 320 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: We got a chance to talk to him at the 321 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: Student Action Summit. Here's that conversation. 322 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: No, you don't really need. 323 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: An introduction here, you kind of preced that. What are 324 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you working on now? What's your next big thing? 325 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: Well, we just admit, do we publish it yet? We're 326 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: in the process of this. 327 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: This is ever, this is not live, so it will 328 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: be by the time this goes. 329 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, what time is it. It's four point thirty on Saturday. 330 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: What day is it Saturday? 331 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 12: It's sorry, millis oriented States the last two days and 332 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 12: we are publishing right now part one of the FBI 333 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 12: leaks where the FBI agents are talking about Epstein and 334 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 12: how this is their words, they called it a hit show. 335 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: They say they dropped the ball. 336 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: So people thought it was all above Bordon. We all 337 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: agreed on. 338 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: It, and I'm I'm just reporting what they're saying. 339 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 12: I mean, this has become a very difficult and controversial. 340 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 12: Everyone's in fighting now, everyone's at each other's throats. But 341 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 12: my job is to share with people what's really going on. 342 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 12: And in the past I was quite afraid to report 343 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 12: any recordings of FBI stuff because, as you know, that 344 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 12: came after me a couple of years ago. So we 345 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 12: just published that today and we're dropping another story on 346 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 12: Big Farm of this week. So I chose to piss 347 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 12: off all the wrong people. The ball keeps rolling, ball 348 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 12: keeps rolling. 349 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: So what of your kind of I dn't say claim 350 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: to fame, but original works was when you were crossing 351 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: the border. 352 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: As Osama bin Laden. 353 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah I was ten years ago. 354 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I'm curious, like now, like that's the 355 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: big issue. 356 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: You saw it as a big issue. 357 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a big issue, but you saw 358 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: it as kind of like a big issue enough to 359 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: make it like the thing? How and why did you 360 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: see that coming as the one of the main at 361 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: last felt that there's. 362 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 12: A huge gap between what people in power tell us 363 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 12: versus the reality. 364 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: And that gap. 365 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 12: So I think it was like Harry Reid or something said, 366 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 12: I don't remember who it was, the border is secure. 367 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 12: It's like, that's so obviously not true. Regardless of what 368 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 12: you think about immigration. Yeah, there has nothing to do 369 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 12: with what I think about I support legal immigration. I 370 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 12: rode the train of death with the migrants, as you 371 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 12: may know, and the film I made, I'm a humanitarian. 372 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 12: My heart goes out to them, which you can't say 373 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 12: something that's so demonstrably false that that's what I saw, 374 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 12: and then I just wanted to make a mockery of 375 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 12: it by pretending to be a terrorist and swim across 376 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 12: that little it's like the Rio Grand River is like 377 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 12: a drainage ditch. It's like ten feet across in that 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 12: part of Texas. 379 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: And mockery made you did. So that's great if there's 380 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: any Obviously there's a lot. 381 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Of things that take place that you guys published that 382 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: that happened that people don't pay attention to. What's the 383 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: one big one that if they were to pay attention 384 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: to this one thing that they're not, what would it 385 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: be in the scope of your work and your investigations. 386 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 12: I think over time the videos have had perhaps they've 387 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 12: they were more sensational years ago, and as when Elon 388 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 12: bought Twitter and it opened the gates of entry so 389 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 12: that everybody it can now be a journalist. I think 390 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 12: it's changed it a little bit because there's so much 391 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 12: information now and I think we've done some of our 392 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 12: best work I think over the last probably two years, 393 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 12: because we're putting out another undercover meeting of these guys 394 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 12: on you know, dating apps every week. But I think 395 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 12: the barriers to entry have gotten so low now that 396 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 12: perhaps they don't have as much of a cultural and 397 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 12: the mainstream he doesn't pick up on them as much. 398 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 12: I think probably right now. And I hate to keep 399 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 12: repeating this, but the most shocking thing from my perspective, 400 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 12: and people are reporting it, is that after the FBI 401 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 12: raided my team this February, the Trump administration released the Affidavid, 402 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 12: the probable cause for the warrant, and they redacted every 403 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 12: single word of it, So the entire document is a 404 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 12: black bar, like every single word. I think that's so 405 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 12: completely preposterous, and it's so ridiculous because if people want 406 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 12: transparency when it comes to child trafficking and EPSTEIN and 407 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 12: all these heavy stuff, they can't even give you the 408 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 12: AFFI David for the reason why they raided me. And 409 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 12: that's why I don't really have a lot of faith 410 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 12: in the government. 411 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that that would be understandable. 412 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: You're aware of the I'm sure you're aware of the 413 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: meme of Hey, if you meet somebody on a dating 414 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: app and you work in a high government position. 415 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: Don't talk to James. It's James O'Keefe, don't talk to him. 416 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: How is it that you're still able to do what 417 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: you do with I mean, being as big as you are, 418 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: doing all the stuff that you've published, and still people. 419 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 12: Fall for it because the subjects in the videos are 420 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 12: under some type of psychosis, they have some type of 421 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 12: personality disorder, because if for what you're saying to be true, 422 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 12: they would have to practice some type of self awareness, 423 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 12: they would have to not be a narcissistic, tread dark person. 424 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 12: I mean, do you understand the people? I mean, you 425 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 12: know the people in DC. I mean, they're just these 426 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 12: are sick people. These are sick, power hungry and narcissist 427 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 12: is an overused term. But they only care about themselves 428 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 12: when they're on these meetings with my people. They're not 429 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 12: even acknowledging our presence. They're just talking at about themselves. Yes, 430 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 12: and I think they're unable to practice any introspection. So 431 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 12: because of that, I will always have a job. 432 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 433 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 12: What they will do to make my life a living 434 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 12: hell is to constantly sue me at which they're doing 435 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 12: and bring me to court. Lawyers make a lot of money, 436 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 12: and the system is completely broken, and that's why I 437 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 12: think the system is a complete joke. 438 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: And then I intend to expose all of it. 439 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and how do you how do 440 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: you fight that? I mean, you're getting suited. 441 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 12: All very hard. It takes a toll on you. And 442 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 12: that's and that's what it's designed to do. So the 443 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 12: way they do it is they they cut you, paper cuts, 444 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 12: cut you know they I mean I was fired from 445 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 12: my own project Veritas I found it. I mean, think 446 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 12: of how painful that is. They raid you, they sue you, 447 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 12: they smear you. And it's not any one of these 448 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 12: things on its own is not a big deal. 449 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 4: But taken in in mass they put a. 450 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 12: Cloud around you and the only way to keep going 451 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 12: is to find strong people beside you and never give up. 452 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is that difficult for you to do, 453 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: especially because I mean the bigger you get, the more 454 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: difficult it is to you. 455 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 12: You can't trust anyone because I'm a public figure now, 456 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 12: so they want to fade or they you know, they 457 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 12: want a picture or they want what do they want 458 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 12: to you know, it's very I think the hard thing 459 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 12: is finding people who can't be broken, and these are 460 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 12: very rare. I would say they're one in one hundred thousand. 461 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 12: Is to find someone who's unbreakable. Let me give you 462 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 12: a less abstract example. 463 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: The FBI is putting. 464 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 12: Heat on you and your family, and they start threatening 465 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 12: your colleagues children. 466 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a paradox. 467 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 12: Any anybody would would fold, anybody would lie, would do 468 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 12: whatever they have to do rightfully to protect their failure. 469 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 12: So it creates an untenable, very difficult thing. So you 470 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 12: really have to find I think, spiritually sound, strong teammates 471 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 12: and that first of all, that's been one of the 472 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 12: mistakes that I've made. And number two, that continues to 473 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 12: be the hardest thing for me to find. I have 474 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 12: some great people at OMG. Some of them are here. 475 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 12: We've got a great team, and I'm blessed to have that. 476 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 477 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: There's been commentary, especially nowadays with the prevalence of the internet, 478 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: everybody is a journalist at this point. 479 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? 480 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: Should that be the case or should it be left 481 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: up to more of the professionals. Now that doesn't mean 482 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: that it should shut people out, But what are your 483 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: thoughts there? 484 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 12: I think that everybody is a journalist, but not everyone 485 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 12: is a good journalist. 486 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: So the journalism the who, what, when? 487 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: Where? 488 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 4: Why? 489 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 12: Told in a succinct package where you identify the lead 490 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 12: and you put the right lead that people must know 491 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 12: based upon a type of moral consensus. That's the good 492 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 12: old fashioned shoe. We don't have that journalism. We have 493 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 12: an abundance of opinion and conjecture and raw data. And 494 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 12: I think I don't I'm not one of these people 495 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 12: that celebrates the demise of journalism. I think we need 496 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 12: good journalism. They need factual It's really about factual reporting. 497 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: We don't really have that, so and I try. I 498 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: endeavor to be factual, don't. 499 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 12: I don't really offer my opinions on this stuff that 500 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 12: I'm presenting, But I think it's a challenge and and 501 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 12: it's a It's when Elon bought Twitter, that was the 502 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 12: greatest thing that ever happened to the Western civilization as 503 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 12: far as I'm concerned. But I had another effect, which 504 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 12: was that now there's so much information and everyone feels 505 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 12: licensed to share without fear of reprisal. But there really 506 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 12: isn't that succinct, clear clearly defined reporting. 507 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: That you So how do you figure out who to trust. 508 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: From from a reporting standpoint, not not from like a 509 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: personal standpoint? 510 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 12: But I think it's based upon you find you don't trust. 511 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 12: You find people who show you, not tell you. So 512 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 12: you're looking for people not to tell you the truth, 513 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 12: but show you. 514 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: Give me first, give me super desk that. 515 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 12: It's very it's very difficult because nowadays you can doctor stuff, 516 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 12: you can ai staff. But even on my team, I 517 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 12: know it's real because it was recorded on my equipment, 518 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 12: so I know that that's real. You find people who 519 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 12: have skin in the game. You find people who are 520 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 12: giving something up, they're making some type of sacrifice, they're 521 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 12: losing their job. The most famous example of this was 522 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 12: perhaps Ed Snowden. But you know, you find whistleblowers. You 523 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 12: find people who are, as Eric Cochran told me once, 524 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 12: the Pinterest whistle blower, people who have skin in the game. 525 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. 526 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: James o'keeth, thanks so much for taking time. Really appreciate 527 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: having you. Have a great rest of your day. Thank you, 528 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Thanks brother, appreciate it. 529 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: Thank you. 530 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: Fascinating James O'Keefe up to some great work as always. 531 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Coming up next here at Turning Point tonight, we've got 532 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: an awesome Cliff Mouse Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast, one of 533 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: the top podcasts in the health and wellness space. 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Help us keep the momentum going. 541 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 7: Donate today and keep keep USA strong on campuses across America. 542 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 8: And for a gift of any amount, you'll receive your 543 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 8: big Gov sucks cooler claim yours today. 544 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 13: What's the deal with cross reactivity and food allergies? Like, 545 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 13: why might somebody be allergic to shrimp and then they'll 546 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 13: also react to crab or whatever. 547 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, so that is how similar the protein structures look. 548 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 14: So those are your crustacean shellfish, so shrimp, crab, and lobster. 549 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 11: So if you're allergic to one of. 550 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 14: Those, then there's a high likelihood that you're allergic to 551 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 14: all three. Okay, and then there's some cross reactivity with 552 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 14: non crustacean shellfish. Show about ten percent of people with 553 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 14: a crustacean shellfish allergy shrimp, lobster crab will also react 554 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 14: to oysters or clams or calamari or muscles. So that's 555 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 14: like we just kind of have these charts and these 556 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 14: statistics based off of what we see in the population. 557 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 14: For peanut allergy in particular, it's interesting because thirty percent 558 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 14: of people will react to tree nuts, specifically hazel nut. 559 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 14: So you have a peanut allergy, you may also react 560 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 14: to hazel nut. But peanut's not actually a nut, it's 561 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 14: a legume, and so it's in the soy and lentil family. 562 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 14: So lots of people don't realize that about ten percent 563 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 14: of people will also have an allergy to soy or lentil. 564 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 14: So that's important because lentils, for example, are not one 565 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 14: of those like top ten food allergens that you would 566 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 14: even think of. 567 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 13: How safe and effective are oral immunotherapy treatments for food 568 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 13: allergies like those with peanut allergies. 569 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 14: It depends, but generally speaking, so there are FDA approved 570 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 14: like peanut powders and things. They're pretty safe. There are 571 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 14: also a lot of doctors that actually create oral immunotherapy. 572 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 14: But let me explain to you what oral immunotherapy is 573 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 14: into your audience because it could be it's a really 574 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 14: interesting concept, but it's essentially giving you small amounts of 575 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 14: what you're allergic to and training your immune system to 576 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 14: no longer be allergic or no longer So it's helping 577 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 14: you to build a tolerance in a natural way by 578 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 14: giving you small amounts of what you're allergic to. So 579 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 14: there are companies that actually have like the peanut protein, 580 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 14: but lots of doctors actually just take like PB two 581 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 14: protein powder and they dilute it down into like very 582 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 14: very small concentrations and they make little mixtures in their 583 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 14: offices of not kidding, and then they give you small 584 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 14: amounts of it. Obviously they've got their you know, their 585 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 14: protocols or what have you. 586 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 11: It's safe. 587 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 14: It wouldn't be safe to do this at home right 588 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 14: where you're like, oh, just take a little bite of 589 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 14: like a Reese's beat. 590 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 11: A buttter cup or something like. Don't do that. 591 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 14: But the science is such that you slowly train your 592 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 14: immune system to no longer be allergic. The risk is 593 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 14: if you take too much, you're still at risk of 594 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 14: having a reaction. But these things we're talking about the 595 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 14: equivalent of like one hundredth of a peanut and then 596 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 14: we're building you up to be able to tolerate like 597 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 14: a quarter of a peanut. 598 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 5: Ye. 599 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 14: Now the thing is you need to be on that 600 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 14: immunotherapy every day consistently, otherwise you lose that tolerance. There 601 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 14: are other therapies though, that are now available that I 602 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 14: like a lot better than doing the food aminotherapy because 603 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 14: the challenge is, like, you know, if you're allergic to 604 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 14: peanuts and a couple of other things, like what are 605 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 14: you supposed to do, like be taking these. 606 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 11: Multiple powders and mixtures and tinctures like every day. 607 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 14: So there is a medicine it's called Zolare and it's 608 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 14: approved for the treatment of chronic hides. 609 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 11: It's approved for the treatment of asthma. 610 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 14: And what it essentially does is it down regulates all 611 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 14: of the allergy receptors that you have in your body, 612 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 14: so your body's just less allergic in general. And data 613 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 14: has shown that now it has FDA clearance for food allergy, 614 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 14: so it's really good, especially for kids if they've got 615 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 14: like multiple food allergies. It's an injection once a month 616 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 14: that basically calms down your immune system. And the key is, 617 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 14: like these kids are not going to be cured of 618 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 14: their allergy. What we're playing for here with food aminotherapy 619 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 14: or these injections is an accidental ingestion and your body being. 620 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 11: Okay with that to say, like, oh. 621 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 14: I accidentally ate a cookie that's a little bit of 622 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 14: a peanut, or I don't have to worry as much 623 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 14: about cross contamination in a factory because I know that 624 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 14: my energy response is essentially muted. 625 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 11: And that's what we're playing for. 626 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 14: So today there isn't like a complete cure for these things, 627 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 14: but there is like the tempering of the immune system 628 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 14: so that you don't have a life threatening reaction from 629 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 14: an accidental ingestion. 630 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 13: How can somebody figure out if they're sneezing in their 631 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 13: itchy eyes are allergies or just a cold? 632 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 14: Three key ways to figure out the difference, because there's 633 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 14: lots of similar symptoms and overlap. Right, you've got your 634 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 14: runny nose, your posting easel drip, and your cough. Also, 635 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 14: the reason why it's confusing is if you have poorly 636 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 14: controlled allergies, you're more likely to pick up a virus 637 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 14: in development infection. But three ways to tell the difference. 638 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 14: So allergies do not cause a fever or swollen lymph nodes. 639 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 14: So that's number one. The second relates to the timing 640 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 14: of your symptoms. So when you have a cold, like 641 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 14: you're in bed for a week, you feel crummy. When 642 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 14: you have allergies, you have some relief when you come 643 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 14: inside or right after you take a shower, or like 644 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 14: if you've got indoor allergies, when you go outside and 645 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 14: get some fresh air, or like when you're no longer 646 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 14: around a cat, it goes away right whereas cold and 647 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 14: flu symptoms you're like stuck in bed, you feel like 648 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 14: crap for that period of time. So the timing of 649 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 14: your symptoms and and the last is the duration of 650 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 14: your symptoms. So if you have seasonal allergies, you're talking 651 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 14: about symptoms for weeks to months where you're kind of 652 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 14: feeling crimy and miserable. Cold and flu lasts only about 653 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 14: seven to ten days, no longer than that. 654 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 13: What is a trick that everyone should know for surviving 655 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 13: spring pollen season. 656 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 11: So there's a couple of things you can do. 657 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 14: Number one, don't wear hairspray when you go out if 658 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 14: you like reala sever from allergies, because pollen will get 659 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 14: stuck in your hair anyway, and then if you have 660 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 14: hair spray, it's like and it sticks on. 661 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 13: Oh my gosh. Wait, that's such a game changer, right, 662 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 13: And the good thing about living in Phoenix is I 663 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 13: had zero humidity. We don't have to do very much 664 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 13: hair spray, but other places definitely do. 665 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, fake eyelashes. Skip the fake eyelashes in the spring, 666 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 14: because palm will get stuck in your lashes. And you know, 667 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 14: when you have fake lashes, you're not like rubbing them 668 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 14: and then they all fall out right and you're like 669 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 14: really careful about touching them, and then you have pollen 670 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 14: stuck in your lashes. Wearing glasses instead of contact lenses, 671 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 14: or if you want to wear your contact lenses where sunglasses, 672 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 14: but again the pollen will get stuck to the lenses too, 673 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 14: So wide brimm tat and sunglasses when you go outside, 674 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 14: showering when you come home, and showering at night, Like 675 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 14: I don't understand how people are out and about all 676 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 14: day and then they just go to bed take. 677 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 11: A nighttime shower. 678 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 14: You could shower in the morning also, but take a 679 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 14: nighttime shower otherwise you're tracking all that pollen. And we're 680 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 14: at ever else, like you're kicked up throughout the day 681 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 14: and you're just plopping that in your bed. So shower 682 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 14: at night, shower right when you get home, rinse all 683 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 14: of that pollen off of you. 684 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 13: You've said that allergies are often kind of brushed off 685 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 13: as like minor, no big deal. If somebody has allergies 686 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 13: and they are not treating them or doing anything about them, 687 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 13: how can that impact their health long term? 688 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 14: So we call this the atopic march or the allergic march. 689 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 14: So first it'll start off as like eggzma or something 690 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 14: in kids, right, and then it progresses to your nasal passages, 691 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 14: and then from your nasal passages and your nose and 692 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 14: post nasal drip and sinus issues, it can progress to asthma. 693 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 14: And then when your asthma gets poorly controlled, you can 694 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 14: end up with obstructive sleep APNA. And when you have 695 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 14: a obstructive sleep APNA, you can end up with right 696 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 14: heart failure. So everyone thinks like, oh, allergies are just 697 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 14: a nuisance. Oh it's just my allergies, and people don't 698 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 14: realize the association with chronic disease. One two Impact on 699 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 14: your sleep, impact on your productivity at work, increase number 700 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 14: of miswork. 701 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 11: Days for people with allergies, so you. 702 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 14: Feel miserable and then it manifests as like you're not 703 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 14: able to function as well. 704 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 13: Is there any way for people to like get over 705 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 13: allergies like to dogs or grass or anything. 706 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 14: So immunotherapy that we were talking about for food, there 707 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 14: is immunotherapy like for environmental allergies, and there are three 708 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 14: main ways to get it. One is an injection, two 709 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 14: is drops under the tongue, three is tablets. But it's 710 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 14: all the same process, which is giving you small amounts 711 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 14: of what you're allergic to and building up your tolerance 712 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 14: over time. So with allergy shots, like let's say you're 713 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 14: allergic to like dogs, cats, and pollen, they can put 714 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 14: all those allergenic proteins into a shot and then once 715 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 14: a week you go to the doctor's office for six months, 716 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 14: and then after at once a month for anywhere from 717 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 14: two to three years, and then like you're done in 718 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 14: your curate of your allergies. With the drops, if they're 719 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 14: allergic to just dogs or just cats, you can get 720 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 14: them up to their quote maintenance doves. They put it 721 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 14: in like a little sugar thing, and then you're essentially 722 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 14: like cured of your allergies or at least eighty percent 723 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 14: improved in your symptoms. 724 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 13: What is the biggest scam when it comes to over 725 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 13: the counter allergy meds? 726 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 14: Over the counter allergy ADDLE is like the craziest place. 727 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 14: Like I'm like overwhelmed, and I'm an allergists and I'm 728 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 14: like what are these things? So here's a great example. Allegra, Sorry, Allegra. 729 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 14: They have like Allegra allergy and then they have Allegra 730 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 14: hives as if it matters, it's the same Allegra. 731 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 11: It doesn't matter. We give anti hystamines for people. 732 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 14: So what you find are like these this additional labeling 733 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 14: of allergy medicines and it's all the same stuff. I'm 734 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 14: not a fan of the multisymptom relief. The other big 735 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 14: one that was like huge in the media is phenel ephyrine, 736 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 14: which is a oral decongestant which was put in like 737 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 14: so treated you know, allergy treatment, cold and flu treatment, 738 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 14: and it's no better than placebo. So the FDA actually 739 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 14: decided to pull it off the shelves. But it's in 740 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 14: all of these multi symptom cold and flu formulas and 741 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 14: lots of different allergy formulas, penal efforts. 742 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 13: So like pseudo fed pe right, we're right bad. 743 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 11: If you can take a sugar pill. 744 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 13: Ooh it's fake, it's tick wow. Okay, So then what 745 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 13: are you doing? What are you taking or how or 746 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 13: maybe you're not taking anything. Maybe you have like a 747 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 13: different thing you do for allergies, or you don't have allergies. 748 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 13: I don't know, So I do have some allergies. 749 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 14: I did do immunotherapy subling of immunotherapy for grass pollen 750 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 14: and tree pollen allergies, So that's like giving me small 751 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 14: amounts of the individual trees and grasses. I'm allergic to 752 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 14: two drops under the tongue every day. It's like I 753 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 14: keep it next to my toothbrush, and I've seen a 754 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 14: significant improvement. I'm one year in significant improvement in my 755 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 14: spring allergy symptoms. 756 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 11: So that's one thing. The second thing is. 757 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 14: I like to hang a little fresh eucalyptus in my 758 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 14: shower and it just like opens up the easel passages. 759 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 14: The third thing I love to do is take a 760 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 14: pot of hot water, bring it to a boil, and 761 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 14: add some fresh ginger, and then I just breathe that 762 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 14: in and it has a natural anti inflammatory effect on 763 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 14: your nasal passages, on your sinuses, on your lungs, and 764 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 14: then nasal ceiling spray. Netty pots work too, but it 765 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 14: feels like really weird for me. Where I like pour, 766 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 14: I feel like a magic trick, like pouring stuff in 767 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 14: one nostril and. 768 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 11: Then it's like coming out the other. But nasal ceiling 769 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 11: spray is like great. 770 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 14: I just like sprayed, and I'm washing out my nasal 771 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 14: passages throughout the course of the day, just like. 772 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 11: We wash our hands. I'm like washing out my nasal 773 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 11: passages and it works. Wonders. 774 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 4: You know what. 775 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 13: I just realized this is the reason netty pots don't 776 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 13: work for me, because I have. 777 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 11: A deviated septum. 778 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 14: It could if it's not like it's supposed to be 779 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 14: like whoop, Yeah, it doesn't do that, so probably just 780 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 14: get stuck. 781 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's what it is. I didn't know I had 782 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 13: that until very recently, and I just put that together. 783 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 6: Got to admire what you've been able to do, not 784 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 6: to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses. 785 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 7: At Turning Point, USA. 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I 806 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: can't make any promises it'll be here before the weekend, 807 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: but weekends continue. You'll have a weekend eventually in the 808 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: future where you're gonna want a cooler, So tpusa dot com. 809 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: Any amount gets you at free cooler. You can also 810 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: email the showing time you want tpt at tpusa dot com. 811 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: You can email whether you agree or whether you're wrong. 812 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: And if you send us videos, that is what we 813 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: most appreciate. Send us something that you come across on 814 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: the internet. The links to that sort of stuff make 815 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: it so much fun to do. Fun Friday specifically is 816 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: what this is. We're having fun. It's a Friday. There 817 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: is this, there's this saying right that the best way 818 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: to expose the idiocy of progressive and liberal policies is 819 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: to enact them. And if you live in a state 820 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: like California, unfortunately you're the person that has to endure 821 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: the enacting of those stupid rules. But at least the 822 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: rest of the country and the rest of the world 823 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: can see how poorly those things work. 824 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 4: Well. 825 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: In some even smaller instances, you get videos like this 826 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: where this guy said, Hey, the Socialist Club of wherever 827 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: he is says that, well, we support being in locations 828 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: that you're not allowed to be. We support squatting in 829 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: the evil free market capitalist buildings, And so he said 830 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: all right, fine, I'm gonna do the same thing to 831 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: you and watch. 832 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: How that played out. Check this out. Hello, guys, I'm 833 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: at the Victorians Socials office. 834 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 6: They actually support squatting, They support people getting inside buildings 835 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 6: and squatting. 836 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: So I thought I would squat. 837 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: Inside the Victorian Socials HP. 838 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 839 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 12: Hello, Hi, excuse me? 840 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: So this is the Victorian Socials HQ ah yeah, of 841 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 2: his office. 842 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: So I'm homeless and I'm a methodict and I haven't 843 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: been able to get housing due to the capitalist system, 844 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: so I thought I would just crash here for a 845 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: few nights. 846 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 847 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 4: Can you please stop filming? 848 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 2: Sorry, you have to. 849 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just staying here for a few nights. 850 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: No, you're not. I just about the sleeping. You have 851 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 2: to leave, heading out now one second. 852 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm not done yet. 853 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: Yep, you are done. 854 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: You have to leave. 855 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 6: I'm not done yet. 856 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 10: Sorry, I just screaming. 857 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, but you have to leave. 858 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 10: Okay, goodad. 859 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 3: Not you have to leave. Come on, thanks, nice time 860 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 3: to go now. 861 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 4: Yep. 862 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we need more of this sort of 863 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: stuff now. 864 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: Obviously, don't go break laws or anything like that. But 865 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: if somebody says, hey, we support you squatting. Also, Geez 866 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: tangent on on tangent I love the fact that he 867 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: used as his excuse, I'm homeless and a meth addict 868 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: and due to the capitalist system, I don't have anywhere 869 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: to live, which is just like throwing all of the 870 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: verbids of the reddick right back in their face. 871 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 2: And he just goes and lays on the floor. 872 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: Now when his cameraman got kicked out of the store, look, 873 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: I get it, you know you don't. Well, you know what, 874 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: let me, I'm amending and we're editing in real time here. 875 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's worth getting arrested for that sort of thing 876 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: in this particular instance. I'm not entirely sure, because thankfully 877 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: the Socialist Club of wherever they are doesn't actually have 878 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: any power. But in the instance of like the we 879 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: need to allow men cause playing as girls into places, 880 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: maybe you should expose the absurdity by taking it to 881 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: the ultimate extreme. And again not advocating for any sort 882 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 1: of violence or anything like that, but like, for example, 883 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: that guy in Canada I think it was, that entered 884 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: into a weightlifting competition who was just clearly a dude. 885 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: He made no effort by the way, too to dress 886 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: up as a woman. Maybe I don't know, maybe he 887 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: wore a skirt or something silly, but he was just 888 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: exposing the idea of how stupid it is. 889 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: And you know, he. 890 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Probably paid some consequences, wasn't allowed to compete in any 891 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: of the men's competitions, but had a positive outcome in 892 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: just showing how stupid and idiotic it is. I love 893 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: stuff like this. It makes me so excited that people 894 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: are finally waking up to it, but then actually doing 895 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: things to expose it like this. This video wasn't viewed 896 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: a ton on the internet, so I'm happy to have 897 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: brought it here to get the exposure that it probably 898 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: deserves again in exposing the idiocy. I love the idea 899 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: that the United States is the laboratory of democracy and 900 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: that some of these states with terrible ideas get to 901 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: be shown to the rest of the country to show 902 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: what doesn't work. Having said that, I'm not a big 903 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: fan of having to live in one of those states, 904 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: because oh boy, if you don't live in California, I 905 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend moving here. 906 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 2: But that is gonna do it for us here. 907 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: Turning point tonight, for this week, the Sorry the show, 908 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: and for this week, Charlie's gonna take us out, have 909 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend. 910 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 2: We will see him Monday, same time, same place. God 911 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 2: bless America. 912 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 5: It'll be a year ago in two days. I was 913 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 5: with her on July thirteenth when my father was shot, 914 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 5: and I got the unusual call from my daughter that 915 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 5: morning saying, hey, I want to go fishing. Which, you know, 916 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 5: if you have a teenage daughter, you guys are teenage 917 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 5: daughters or so, you're not often calling dad to go 918 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 5: do something. So when you call dad, she's nodding. She's like, yep, 919 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 5: when you call dad, he's gonna do it right, it 920 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 5: doesn't matter. So he wasn't even the perfect day. I 921 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 5: was like, yep, I'm gonna go get bad. We're gonna 922 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 5: go do it. We're gonna go fishing. And you know, 923 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 5: we were out probably you know, thirteen fourteen miles off shore, 924 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 5: having a great day catching fish, and we got the call, 925 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 5: and you know, I picked up my phone. It's like, 926 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 5: your dad's been shot. I'm like, and well, we don't 927 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 5: know anything. I'm like, oh that's wonderful. Yeah, there's calls 928 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 5: that are good and bad. That's only a call that 929 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 5: has degrees of bad, right, And we didn't know anything, 930 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 5: and we're frantically kind of calling. I guess the only 931 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 5: thing that I guess they did right that day was 932 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 5: shut down other communications, and so I think we set 933 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 5: the c speed record from offshore into Jupiter where we live, 934 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 5: and you know, finally we're able to get my dad 935 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 5: on the phone, and you know, it was sort of 936 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 5: a harrowing thing. By then, we had seen some of 937 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 5: the videos of him coming back up with the sort 938 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 5: of fight, fight, fight, and I just got on the phone. 939 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 940 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not usually at a loss for words, but 941 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 5: I was one of those where I was like, I 942 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 5: got nothing. But I was like, that's the most badass 943 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 5: thing I've ever seen. I was like, I'm not sure 944 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 5: if it's like the actively the most intelligent thing I've 945 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 5: ever seen either, you know, like, you know, yeah, just 946 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 5: just stand up again. 947 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: What could go wrong? 948 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 9: You know? 949 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 5: So I was like, but you know, it was this 950 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 5: sort of somber moment, and finally it was again we 951 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 5: got awkward enough. I was like, okay, so we got 952 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 5: to ask the most important question, which is how's the hair? 953 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 5: And he gave me the you know, done, done, done. 954 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 5: The hair is fine. It's a little bloody. There was 955 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 5: a lot of blood, a lot of blood done, but 956 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 5: but the hair is fine. It'll be good. You're gonna 957 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 5: have to wash it. And you know, it sort of 958 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 5: broke the ice and you know, I'm not gonna say 959 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 5: it got normal again, but it it normalized the situation. 960 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 5: And my daughter was with me, and Ky has probably 961 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 5: spent more time with my dad one on one than 962 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 5: than I have. And I'm a lot older than her, 963 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 5: largely because of golf, and she's like his golf buddy 964 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 5: and she plays with him every weekend when she when 965 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 5: he was around, and that was all the time. And 966 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 5: he called me that next morning and she's like, you 967 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 5: know what, I want to speak at the RNC. It 968 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 5: wasn't to be clear, it's my daughter, So it wasn't 969 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 5: exactly I want to like. It wasn't a question. It 970 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 5: was like I'm going to and I'm just like, like, 971 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 5: I guess i'll bump some governor, like just you know, 972 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 5: and we do well. I didn't do anything. I called 973 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 5: my dad. This was like a six o'clock in the 974 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 5: morning call. He picks up on the first ring. I'm like, hey, 975 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 5: you're doing good. By the way, Kai wants to speak 976 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: at the RNC, and he just goes, WHOA, well, listen, 977 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 5: when you do this every day, by the way, we've 978 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 5: seen guys that do this every day and still blow that. 979 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 9: Right. 980 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 5: When there's forty thousand people in you're in a stadium 981 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 5: and there's ten million, twenty million people watching on television, 982 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 5: and you've never given a speech in your life. 983 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 2: That is not easy. 984 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 5: It's hard for most people again who do it, it's 985 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 5: like they're used to a small crowd and that's easy. 986 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 5: It's a lot of pressure. And he's just like, that's 987 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 5: a big one. That could go wrong really quickly, and 988 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 5: we understand how bad that can go. But he just 989 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 5: thought about it for a say, he goes, you know what, 990 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 5: that kid's a winner. She'll do great. Like that, that 991 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 5: was it, Like congratulations, she'll open for you and like 992 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 5: will bump someone and make it happen. And she's done 993 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 5: a pretty good job since then. So yeah, she's amazing. 994 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 7: So then, and President Trump deserves so much credit making 995 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 7: sure men are not going to be in female sports, 996 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 7: which is the kind of connection. So she's a great golfer, 997 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 7: How do you interpret how the Democrat Party continually embracing 998 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 7: this men and female sports issue. What is their reluctance 999 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 7: to just moderate on this issue? 1000 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 5: You know what, I love it, you know, I think 1001 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 5: it's such a top issue, especially for like a lot 1002 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 5: of the demographics that you know, men sort of understand 1003 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 5: it intrinsically. I think, you know a lot of soccer 1004 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 5: moms around America sort of you know, their entire currency. 1005 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 5: You know, there was virtue signaling, right, and like they 1006 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 5: latched onto this thing. And I think it was one 1007 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 5: of the guys from Daily Wire actually gave me credit 1008 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 5: a couple months ago. They were like, wow, Don Junior 1009 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 5: was on this issue in twenty seventeen, because before it 1010 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 5: was really a thing. You'd see it like some dude 1011 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 5: would win a high school girls like track championship and 1012 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 5: they're getting a scholarship to the finest university for track, 1013 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, but it's a dude. And this 1014 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 5: was twitter one point. Oh, so let's just say, guys 1015 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 5: like you and I and probably everyone else in this room, 1016 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 5: you know, we were definitely in the minority there. It 1017 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 5: was ninety five to five ninety ten, you know, conservative 1018 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 5: to you know, raging libtard. And even then, though I'd 1019 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 5: put it up, You're like, this is insane, and I'd 1020 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 5: read the comments and it was, you know, just people 1021 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 5: who were just waiting to comment on anything to hate 1022 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 5: on me, whatever it isn't I feed off the hate. 1023 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 5: It's great, it's fine. But I remember reading the comments 1024 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 5: and being like, wow, this is a losing issue for them, 1025 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 5: because even the people who hated my guts were like, oh, 1026 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 5: I hate don and you're so much but he's right. 1027 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 5: You know, next comment, I can't believe I agree with 1028 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 5: Dodd Junior on something. That's how ridiculous it was like 1029 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 5: before it became a thing. And then you know the 1030 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 5: trans mafia, which was, you know, the the most beyond 1031 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 5: reproach organization in the history of the world. Like, I've 1032 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 5: never seen a group of people that probably comprise zero 1033 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 5: point two percent of a society that could they were 1034 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 5: infallible right, they could do no wrong. They were obviously right. 1035 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 5: And the Democrats fed into every I mean even against 1036 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 5: like gay liberals who were like, wait, wait a second, 1037 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 5: we fought for decades to be able to get you know, equality, 1038 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 5: and they don't want equality, they want equality plus plus 1039 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 5: plus plus plus this is insane. So you know, I 1040 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 5: think it's asinine. I think it was a great issue 1041 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 5: for people across the board, for reasonable people who weren't 1042 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 5: sort of politically entrenched for independence. And I love that 1043 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 5: even knowing this now, even years later, even when it's 1044 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 5: an abject fail, they literally can't help but continue to 1045 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 5: go all in on the issue. It's a ninety ten issue, 1046 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 5: and you know, if Trump is in the ninety they 1047 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 5: just got to take the one hundred percent of the 1048 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 5: other ten and back at one thousand percent. So you know, 1049 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 5: I'm glad to see that they're still doing it because 1050 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 5: I think it helps us in the long bat for 1051 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 5: the country. But it is a disaster for the country. 1052 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 5: It's a disaster for our daughters. It's an absolute embarrassment. 1053 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 3: I mean, got. 1054 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 6: To admire what you've been able to do, not to weaponize, 1055 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 6: but to organize on these college campuses. 1056 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 7: At Turning Point USA. We spent thirteen years building the machine, 1057 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 7: and last year we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is 1058 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 7: making a real difference. 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