Speaker 1: Some people go to Disney to experience what it's like
Speaker 1: to live in a walkable city, and I think, like
Speaker 1: just going to downtown Disney and waiting for the for
Speaker 1: the parade to happen is like what, They're just living
Speaker 1: like people in America. Yeah, they're just like what that
Speaker 1: must have been cool to just like sit around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, did you do you have an annual pass?
Speaker 1: Is that? Like? No, No, I paid two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 3: I'm here for the community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here to be for the community. That's completely
Speaker 1: lacking elsewhere. They should have like an old timey library,
Speaker 1: and shit they do.
Speaker 4: It's the Beast's Library a beast well I think they
Speaker 4: just closed it down this year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they have the Beast's Library, which was literally
Speaker 2: a library, not really with books, but with like games
Speaker 2: and stuff you could do.
Speaker 3: I remember that. And the kids are in there and
Speaker 3: they're like ill words on pages?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this? Also?
Speaker 3: Shouldn't it be L's library?
Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah, the like but the library actually
Speaker 1: passed to him once they got married. Ye belongs to
Speaker 1: the beast.
Speaker 3: Now she's not allowed to read. I mean they don't
Speaker 3: talk about that in Beauty and the Beast too.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're no longer allowed to read. That's part of
Speaker 1: this agreement. It is kind of funny that, like one
Speaker 1: of their biggest heads, Beauty of the Beast, has like
Speaker 1: a whole five minute song right at the beginning where
Speaker 1: she's essentially making fun of the type of people who
Speaker 1: like go to Disney. In a lot of cases, that's
Speaker 1: just like these fucking idiots read the classics.
Speaker 3: Gaston has this has a season passed for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Gaston goes to Disney and gets too drunk,
Speaker 1: and everyone's just like, oh.
Speaker 2: Man, there's when I used to work at Power one
Speaker 2: oh six, there was this one manager, like artist manager
Speaker 2: who really was only managing like kind of like lower
Speaker 2: tier artists. He would always come in and he was
Speaker 2: like tight with some of the people there, so he
Speaker 2: was always able to like they would always buzz him
Speaker 2: into the station and all he was he was so
Speaker 2: into Disney.
Speaker 1: This like older, like.
Speaker 2: Fifty five year old black dude, and he was like, man,
Speaker 2: I was just at Disney, man Gathdon, the Gaston they
Speaker 2: got he had this list, but he was like the
Speaker 2: Gaston man. He was doing so many push ups, man,
Speaker 2: and this guy he was he like worked with NWA
Speaker 2: like back in the day, but he was so into
Speaker 2: Disney like that he would come in. We were like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got a new artist whatever. He's like, man, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna believe what I saw Disney.
Speaker 1: Later, would you say if I wanted to bring that
Speaker 1: Gaston on the radio? Yeah, yeah, yeah he believe in
Speaker 1: the magic. Yeah he did.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, that Gaston was pursued for months by that gentleman
Speaker 3: like he was like, I had a stalker once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy he kept talking about how you used
Speaker 1: to work with NWA. I only did ten push ups.
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Speaker 1: October twenty third, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Ten twenty three. Good buddy, It's National Horror Movie Day.
Speaker 2: It's National Boston Cream Pie Day. That's my favorite kind
Speaker 2: of donut. Is this gonna say that?
Speaker 1: I just love to fucking it the custard. It's too
Speaker 1: custardy to be need. I need more sugar in that filling.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a hey, the swallows are departing from San
Speaker 2: Juan Capistrano Day. I don't even know that was a
Speaker 2: full part. It's also National TV talk show host Day.
Speaker 2: I think that we count as that, and it's iPod.
Speaker 1: Day, Wow throw back.
Speaker 2: Get out your iPod namos, get out your iPod touch
Speaker 2: whatever you have, get them there.
Speaker 3: I know you have them in a drawer somewhere that
Speaker 3: you've been meaning to take to the recycling electronic recycling center. Yep,
Speaker 3: but you don't, so just sits in that drawer.
Speaker 1: I had that.
Speaker 2: One wacky, super tiny iPod that didn't have a screen,
Speaker 2: look like a stick of gum that had like a
Speaker 2: clip on it. Then you could like And I only
Speaker 2: had the system of a down Toxicity album on it
Speaker 2: for when I drove back from working raves, because if
Speaker 2: I listened to it would keep me from falling asleep,
Speaker 2: because I would just power through the whole album screaming
Speaker 2: very specific.
Speaker 3: Isn't that beautiful? Like if I went to a rave
Speaker 3: at the age I am now, there's no way in
Speaker 3: hell I would sleep. But like when you're eighteen you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm tired. Now I'm like, I'm over stimulated.
Speaker 1: I feel like nothing has beat the tactile experience of
Speaker 1: like that circular scroll on the iPod. Like since then,
Speaker 1: like there hasn't been a yeah where it's like you're scrolling,
Speaker 1: you're rolling down down your songs and it's given like
Speaker 1: the little clicks as it goes.
Speaker 2: Was that our downfall when we switched from the physical
Speaker 2: jog wheel to the test we peaked?
Speaker 1: Yeah, something to be said for wheels, underrated wheels, A
Speaker 1: shout out to them.
Speaker 3: Underrated own music. Remember when you could actually like buy
Speaker 3: a CD, make it an MP three, and then own
Speaker 3: it without having a subscription service.
Speaker 1: Oh apparent, Leah, I'm gonna let you hold that for
Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, situation. Every piece of music
Speaker 1: that I love.
Speaker 2: There are albums that I bought, like in the early
Speaker 2: days of the iTunes store that now they're like, bro,
Speaker 2: we lost our license agreement for that album, so thanks
Speaker 2: for the two bucks back then.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, motherfucker, what.
Speaker 3: That's not how capitalism works.
Speaker 1: Well, it turns out that's what they say at stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, stage, it's something else now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, late stage is all about the fine print. All right,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien. Akay, knock knock, knocking on
Speaker 1: butthole doors man. That one courtesy of David Lesser.
Speaker 3: Someone's got to knock on them and lessons.
Speaker 1: In reference to our conversation yesterday about the term fart
Speaker 1: knocker and where it comes, Oh yeah, I want tomber.
Speaker 1: I'm imagining it's homophobic. Probably, Yeah, that's how they That's
Speaker 1: how they imagine transactional gay sex happens, is that people
Speaker 1: just like go up and knock on the butt, and
Speaker 1: that's how that's how they do it. Dude, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: That's what my pastor said at the sermon. I I
Speaker 1: was assuming because there used to be a thing called
Speaker 1: engine knock where like the gas like I think it
Speaker 1: was before they had really locked in the formula for
Speaker 1: gasoline and so engines would like not like have like
Speaker 1: combustion problems that would like knock, so as well as
Speaker 1: maybe it was related to that, like somebody who holds
Speaker 1: their fart so long that they're like.
Speaker 3: Okay, very weard humble brag of how of combustion engine knowledge.
Speaker 1: That's just like do not bring the student Baker, there's
Speaker 1: nothing at all humble about how I feel about my
Speaker 1: knowledge of early engine troubles.
Speaker 2: The early Some people like to look up the troubles.
Speaker 2: I'm all about early engine trouble.
Speaker 1: Early engine troubles. By the way, I was talking about
Speaker 1: how your husband has gifted me Francesca with the phrase
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to fight me Da. It's like
Speaker 1: his impression of Irish people. Very offensive. I don't like it,
Speaker 1: but I can't stop saying it, and now my seven
Speaker 1: year old keeps saying it, So it is an impression
Speaker 1: that has invaded my household. So you can you can
Speaker 1: thank him into a sincere desire to fight his dog.
Speaker 1: I know. I think it's just like deep in my blood.
Speaker 1: I think it's both very funny, because Matt is very funny.
Speaker 1: But Brian, is that connecting deeply within the DNA inside
Speaker 1: of every Irishman that they deeply want to fight there?
Speaker 3: Have you been to the home country, the Motherland?
Speaker 1: I have? Yeah, did not get it. I did not fight.
Speaker 1: They're like, what the fuck I want to have? The
Speaker 1: only that I was from just expecting that I was
Speaker 1: gonna immediately like howeople think it's going to be like
Speaker 1: get jumped in gang war, Welcome home. You got to
Speaker 1: fight this guy. He's your cousin, he's your dog. Uh.
Speaker 1: Thrilled to be joined as always, buy my co host,
Speaker 1: mister Miles.
Speaker 2: Grad Miles Grand Game.
Speaker 1: What's on your head? On your head?
Speaker 5: Murking, murking murkin?
Speaker 2: That part is really underrated part anyway. Shout out to
Speaker 2: Battie on the Spectrum for that one on the discord,
Speaker 2: because I was talking about, yeah, what if you just
Speaker 2: rocked the murkin on top and had like a pubic
Speaker 2: tupe for your dome piece?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't look good?
Speaker 2: Or would it help crowdfund my campaign to buy a murkin?
Speaker 1: Trying to think who had like a Murcan hairdo? Like
Speaker 1: did Sly from sling the family stone at some point
Speaker 1: like have a very small strip at the top.
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, he had a mohawk. I feel
Speaker 2: like like you mean like Ladder Day, Ladder Day Sly? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he had like a blonde. He had the blonde mohawk
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: So so disturbing to the Murcan story is very disturbing
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Late breaking Mercan News. Yeah, Miles, we are thrilled, honored,
Speaker 1: blessed to be joined in our third seat by a
Speaker 1: brilliant comedian, writer, journalist, activist you know from places like
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera, MSNBC America, Unhinged on Zateo, and from the
Speaker 1: podcast Thebituation Room. It's Francesca Forantina.
Speaker 3: Hey, aka Natural Murkin.
Speaker 1: You sure damn looks incredible. You're not going to believe this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe it's Hi, guys, thanks for having
Speaker 3: me here.
Speaker 1: I am yeah, wonderful to have you once again. Back
Speaker 1: is the incredible. How are you doing? How have you
Speaker 1: been beyond just having to reconcile? The market is the
Speaker 1: latest time.
Speaker 3: I just feel like having a kid is really inconvenient
Speaker 3: to fighting fascism, And I'm just like you, you.
Speaker 2: Need to ruining it, Yes, ruining it.
Speaker 1: Like the priorities are so fucked up, they're so selfish.
Speaker 3: They're so selfish, and I'm just like, I can't always
Speaker 3: bring you to the demos, I can't bring you everywhere,
Speaker 3: I can't always stay out like you know, but I'm
Speaker 3: also like I am it's very funny if I were
Speaker 3: like wealthy enough to have a nanny or a babysitter
Speaker 3: every time Mama wanted to go out, and like fight
Speaker 3: the revolution. You know, there's something about that. But I
Speaker 3: do think, and you know, coming from the activist world,
Speaker 3: that every organizing entity should have childcare. And in fact,
Speaker 3: some of my dearest friends practiced that in New York
Speaker 3: City back in the early two thousands and were like
Speaker 3: started a childcare collective for you know, mostly women of
Speaker 3: color run and lead grassroots organizations, and so that's very important.
Speaker 1: Get that going again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like there should be a bounce
Speaker 3: house at the end of the march or in the
Speaker 3: shade somewhere where you can just again, oh, stick the kid,
Speaker 3: you go do the rah ra, you know. And yeah,
Speaker 3: they weren't noise canceling headphones, and it's.
Speaker 1: All good, exactly. Man, bounce houses are can can go
Speaker 1: thunder domesque though, that's shit, especially when I get in there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I guess ugly. All right, Francisco,
Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the
Speaker 1: listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: More secret Nazis, more secret Nazi tattoos in the news.
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers can't stop having secret Nazi pasts. They are
Speaker 1: like running for office and like actively involved in being
Speaker 1: like I want to represent lots of people. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll talk about the results continue to
Speaker 1: roll in from ICE loosening their training on how like
Speaker 1: what you need to do to get out there and
Speaker 1: start harming people and kidnapping people, and yeah, we're seeing consequences.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about a story
Speaker 1: that is part of a trend that I want it.
Speaker 1: We're not going to get to the bottom of it today,
Speaker 1: but I do have questions and we'd love to listen,
Speaker 1: love to hear from our listeners about if they have
Speaker 1: any experience in this. But another coroner was caught hoarding corpses,
Speaker 1: and yet again, like this is the thing that happens
Speaker 1: every once in a while, and I'm just curious, why
Speaker 1: does this keep happening? Is it just like emails backing
Speaker 1: on you know what I mean, Like it's just like
Speaker 1: too too much work, and they're just like, I guess
Speaker 1: we could just push that one back to the back
Speaker 1: of the pile. So we'll talk about all of that
Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Francesca, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests what is something from your search history that
Speaker 1: is revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3: This is so embarrassing.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm a big Cardi B fan. I have tickets
Speaker 4: to her first show back after giving birth in February,
Speaker 4: so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3: I like the new album a lot. I think it's great.
Speaker 3: I didn't love it the first listen through, but the
Speaker 3: second listen I was like, this is amazing, still very good. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I've been watching a lot of Cardi B interviews and
Speaker 3: she was on one interview with Angie Martinez and I
Speaker 3: was just looking at her watch and I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: that's a nice watch. And I was like trying to
Speaker 3: zoom in and I couldn't find you know, like, what
Speaker 3: is this watch?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So I was like really into the watch. It was
Speaker 3: like big, chunky and white, and I realized, yes, I
Speaker 3: finally found it, and it is a two point five
Speaker 3: million dollar watch. That's boy. Some guy's names boys, it's whatever.
Speaker 1: So then Richard Richard.
Speaker 3: Million dollar watch. Now, of course, this takes my love
Speaker 3: of her down because I'm like, nobody needs a two
Speaker 3: and a half million dollar watch, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, but I did search chunky white watch
Speaker 3: and realized that, you know, for the rubes out there
Speaker 3: who just want to watch, that looks like a nice watch.
Speaker 1: I just pointing to a chunky white watch on our
Speaker 1: own wrist.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of dupes out there here, so I'm
Speaker 3: a total dupe, and I like. I like it. It's
Speaker 3: it's white, it's light, and it's guess.
Speaker 2: Let me see that. Let me see that. Bring that close.
Speaker 2: To bring that close to grandmother's eyes so I.
Speaker 3: Can look again if you can't focus on it. But
Speaker 3: it's like I got the clear watch.
Speaker 1: It's guest. Branch's not asking you to guess. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: let me bring it close. Yeah, Richard mill Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a joke. If anybody laughed at that joke, that
Speaker 1: was a joke from the Brady Bunch movie that I
Speaker 1: just stole there. So wow, where she's always jeans, are those?
Speaker 1: And she says guess and she goes, okay, Lee LEVI, yeah,
Speaker 1: no it is.
Speaker 3: I haven't bought something from Guess, I think since I
Speaker 3: was like seventeen, So this is very like I I
Speaker 3: like the watch. It's fine, it's cute. It is definitely
Speaker 3: a like I saw Cardi B on an interview and
Speaker 3: I don't have two and a half million dollars.
Speaker 2: Funny, I did never clogged Cardi B to be one
Speaker 2: of your style icons, because you don't dress like Cardi
Speaker 2: B at all your.
Speaker 1: Energy on you.
Speaker 3: I need some ribs removed first and putting I don't
Speaker 3: know where else some I guess inner thigh weight into
Speaker 3: my ass. The point is, you know.
Speaker 1: The ribs in your ass, knock on that thing, you know.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not my satellite on. But I was needing
Speaker 3: a new watch, and I just you know, so I
Speaker 3: was like chunky watch, and I feel like Google or
Speaker 3: Duck dut go, which I use knew that I was
Speaker 3: looking for a very dupe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey don't dot go.
Speaker 2: I mean you can find Chky, so many people do.
Speaker 2: Like you could have found one that is pretty much
Speaker 2: like a just a direct ripoff of that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: if you really wanted to have that, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: I could, I know, but that would have been like
Speaker 3: what like five hundred thousand or something like people you get.
Speaker 2: That shit on the gate for like fucking like eighty bucks.
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, the right I don't know what the Google's dh.
Speaker 2: Gate okay, this is where the Chinese websites where you
Speaker 2: get all the counterfeit merchandise.
Speaker 1: I feel like the world of reps has been under
Speaker 1: publicized because it is really like the very foundation of
Speaker 1: capitalism wobbles under its weight under replicas, the most expensive
Speaker 1: of shoes, like the My wife, for I think our anniversary,
Speaker 1: bought me these shoes that were like my Grail sneakers,
Speaker 1: the Union Guaba Ice Jordan Force, and I was wearing them.
Speaker 1: Miles was there, he can attest to this in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and a teenager walked up to me and goes
Speaker 1: and goes nice reps. No, laughed. So not only not
Speaker 1: only like can you fool people by getting the reps,
Speaker 1: but if you are stupid enough to spend the money
Speaker 1: on the nice thing that you covet, people are gonna
Speaker 1: think they're reps anyways, you might as well just get
Speaker 1: the fucking reps.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So he wasn't like he just clocked you
Speaker 3: with someone who didn't wasn't able to get the rep.
Speaker 3: It was able to get the original.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just trying to because reps are so
Speaker 2: pervasive and they look some of them are so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And there was a sneaker convention in town,
Speaker 1: so he was like, but like the fact that there
Speaker 1: was a sneaker convention in town at the time means
Speaker 1: that he was like he was really saying fuck you,
Speaker 1: because he was like, look at this rube who just
Speaker 1: bought some reps, like at the sneaker convey you chase
Speaker 1: him out, Like, no, not, they're actually real.
Speaker 2: I mean, like to your point, it's really interesting. Just
Speaker 2: like his as somebody who loves sneakers but hates paying
Speaker 2: just like insane amounts of money. I'm like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: buy fakes because I'm not about to pay fucking five
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for persnager. I'll pay it a hundred from
Speaker 2: somewhere else. Yeah, but like it it's it's it's broken
Speaker 2: the brains of like hype beast brand focused people who
Speaker 2: are like the whole point is like you don't want
Speaker 2: to like why spend for the cheap thing, like you
Speaker 2: want to spend like the twelve hundred dollars on the
Speaker 2: other thing, Like that's the.
Speaker 1: Whole point of it. You're like, it actually isn't.
Speaker 2: And look how pressed you are because somebody just showed
Speaker 2: up with the thing that looks like the thing that
Speaker 2: costs two thousand dollars or whatever it's I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not into Like when I did go to China,
Speaker 3: they did take us like part of the tour when
Speaker 3: I visit. I can't remember if I was outside of Beijing.
Speaker 3: They took us to a place that was like, you know,
Speaker 3: number one, First of all, you ever tried to like
Speaker 3: not buy something, you know, like just a place that's
Speaker 3: like nothing but dupes and reps and like whatever, like fakes,
Speaker 3: knockoff shit. It's impossible. You cannot make eye contact with
Speaker 3: any vendors because they'll.
Speaker 1: Be like, buy my glasses please. I saw you looking.
Speaker 3: I saw you looking, and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 3: But I will say, like I'm not someone who's ever
Speaker 3: been into brands. I don't. I really don't care. Like
Speaker 3: I understand occasionally occasionally be like oh, like the logo
Speaker 3: whatever whatever, but it really is about like, no, the
Speaker 3: style is nice. It's a nice style.
Speaker 2: It's a well the way it looks anyway, I just
Speaker 2: put it in the chat. Look at that dupe that's
Speaker 2: thirteen bucks off the gate.
Speaker 3: Shut up, yes, this looks exactly like what I have there.
Speaker 2: You go you know what I mean, yeah, save your coins,
Speaker 2: save your coins question for the.
Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Underrated? Is the Epstein survivors. I just feel like we
Speaker 3: keep on talking about like the Epstein files, and don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, they should come out. It's very important.
Speaker 3: But also all of the survivors are like, yeah, so, anyway,
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew raped me multiple times. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like,
Speaker 3: we know we need a list. Were like, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 3: Stacy Williams, former Sports Illustrated model who dated Epstein, was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, he and Trump were best friends. And Trump
Speaker 3: groped me in an elevator, like, and Epstein was watching
Speaker 3: and laughing the whole time. Like all of the survivors
Speaker 3: have the names, have the people can testify to the links,
Speaker 3: especially between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Do you think
Speaker 3: that even when the files are released unredacted, like, we
Speaker 3: will ever know the connections between Trump and Epstein, like
Speaker 3: from the FBI, Nor will we know what Trump's own
Speaker 3: FBI in the year twenty seventeen to twenty twenty seventeen
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen did when it raided Trump's I've said this
Speaker 3: last time I was on rated Trump's I mean Epstein's home, stole,
Speaker 3: you know, incriminating evidence from Epstein's vault, Epstein's safe. We're
Speaker 3: not going to find any of that stuff. Just listen
Speaker 3: to the survivors. Listen to the victims, like, oh, hold
Speaker 3: this whole were there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who were there?
Speaker 1: They are?
Speaker 3: They're still around. They're like, hey, I'm I'm here, and
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, we want to list.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're like part of me. It feels
Speaker 2: like if it's tactical, because it's like, why come out
Speaker 2: and say it until it's absolutely necessary. I'm wondering like
Speaker 2: if they if the files don't get released, and the
Speaker 2: next thing is to actually have these people testify publicly
Speaker 2: or something. Because when they when they were on Capitol
Speaker 2: Hill with Rocanna, everything that was being implied, and Trump
Speaker 2: was having planes fly overhead, I was like.
Speaker 1: You think he's not worried about them. He was buzzing
Speaker 1: them with fighters. Yes.
Speaker 2: One of the women was that English woman who Epstein
Speaker 2: hooked him up with, and then, as the British Tablet said,
Speaker 2: Trump had her installed in his Manhattan apartment and you're
Speaker 2: like okay, and that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, so I'm just like, and I
Speaker 3: think they will be testifying. I think you're right, Miles,
Speaker 3: that's probably what's next. But I do feel like even then,
Speaker 3: it won't be satisfactory to like the you know, like,
Speaker 3: but if Hillary Clinton's name isn't mentioned, it's not real, right,
Speaker 3: and some of that bass anecdotally. I know mag is
Speaker 3: turning on Trump over the files, so I and I
Speaker 3: think they know it. That's why the government is still
Speaker 3: shut down. That's why they're scared.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but we will see, we will see, we
Speaker 1: will because we have a story about mister Wonderful and
Speaker 1: he's got a really good defense of why why we
Speaker 1: need to move on from the Epstein files that we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about later on. But first, Francesca, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Overrated? Is the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas because it's
Speaker 3: not actually holding h Israel has violated it time and
Speaker 3: time again and exactly and and they've admitted to that.
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, but but Trump did it. Yay,
Speaker 3: give them credit, And it's like, how fucking removed do
Speaker 3: you have to be to understand that this is not
Speaker 3: over it? And I also think you know, again, what's
Speaker 3: setting in Is this the pre October seventh sort of
Speaker 3: ignoring of what's happening in Palestine, whether in the West
Speaker 3: Bank or in Gaza.
Speaker 1: We get to ignore that. Now there was a story
Speaker 1: about a ceasefire, we digested that story, we get to
Speaker 1: ignore it. It is as Americans.
Speaker 3: Were released, right, And I mean, really everything is the
Speaker 3: same except for Israel's excuse to continue doing it. So
Speaker 3: why are they continuing to do it? And you see
Speaker 3: aid trucks are coming in, but it is a drop
Speaker 3: in the bucket. And then you realize that, oh, Israel's
Speaker 3: always put on a diet, that's their words, in order
Speaker 3: to effectively slowly genocide them, to starve them, to kill
Speaker 3: them all the like the New York Times doing correction.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, we called this person dying of famine. They
Speaker 3: actually had a pre existing condition. What was that living
Speaker 3: under an occupation?
Speaker 1: Malnutrition mal exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, it's it's just, you know, it's
Speaker 3: upsetting to hear people in your life, friend's family, whomever,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of talk about the ceasefire. Is like,
Speaker 3: I hope it's gonna hold, or I hope it's hope.
Speaker 3: We yeah, well, you could also just get the reason four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump, Trump's already sent the Bbsitters Club over with
Speaker 2: Vance and Marco Rubio to try and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: like can you Trump's like really worried that you're going
Speaker 2: to like start this thing up again, because you are
Speaker 2: starting it up again.
Speaker 3: At least they're sending a bb Sitters Club, I mean
Speaker 3: to be let's be fair, Biden Biden did not. Biden's like,
Speaker 3: I trust him what's in his heart? And you're like,
Speaker 3: what's in his heart is blood?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's the thing about Biden v. Trump
Speaker 3: is like Trump is an unmitigated you know, narcissist. You know,
Speaker 3: he hates he's a he hates racist. Yeah, he hates Palestinians,
Speaker 3: he hates Muslims. But Biden's a Zionist and like so.
Speaker 1: He's meaning he was in it to the death.
Speaker 3: Like he's cut stars in his eyes. You know, he
Speaker 3: thinks somehow this is justified. Anyway. That's what I'm that's
Speaker 3: what's overrated.
Speaker 1: We were to say that's what I'm bitching about.
Speaker 3: Yes I did.
Speaker 1: I was, Okay, it's not it's.
Speaker 3: Miles was just on my show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we're just gonna go check it out. Take
Speaker 1: the double feature to Summer Lea. Yes, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: all these Nazi things that keep coming out. Wellings Jack,
Speaker 1: Nazi tings.
Speaker 5: Nazi tings, and we're back.
Speaker 1: This is actually this is like one of those thought
Speaker 1: experiments about a tree falling in the woods, stuff like
Speaker 1: that one hand clapping. If it has a Nazi tattoo
Speaker 1: but is running as a Democrat, you can't be Nazi.
Speaker 1: Is it still Nazi?
Speaker 2: Is it Nazi? I don't know, Yazi.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's currently a heat or I don't know how
Speaker 2: heated it is now, but there is a contest developing
Speaker 2: for one of main Senate seats, specifically for local concerned
Speaker 2: woman Susan Collins. A local oyster farmer and veteran named
Speaker 2: Graham Plattner made waves when he got into the race
Speaker 2: because he was talking that populous shit and railing against billionaires,
Speaker 2: and people were.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, doesn't take much. Doesn't take much to make waves,
Speaker 1: just freaking say that the most down the middle meatball.
Speaker 1: The fact that not everybody is saying that is malpracticed. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: fire this idea that this guy has.
Speaker 2: Right what So then the establishment, the Democratic establishment, got
Speaker 2: their pick in the race in the form of main
Speaker 2: Governor Janet Mills. And when she entered, Platner was pointing out,
Speaker 2: He's like, look, just so you know her getting in
Speaker 2: the ratios, they're scared of me because I'm an outsider
Speaker 2: and I'm going to do like I'm I'm talking something
Speaker 2: completely different.
Speaker 1: I'm a boat rocker.
Speaker 2: Well, some pretty disturbing news came out in the last
Speaker 2: week when it was a real that this guy has
Speaker 2: a fucking Nazi tattoo on his chest, specifically the SS Totenkov,
Speaker 2: which is that fucking skull and crossbones thing. If you've
Speaker 2: seen it, hopefully you'll be like that kind of looks
Speaker 2: evilsh It doesn't look like a you know, like the
Speaker 2: one piece skulling crossbones I see in the anime or
Speaker 2: fucking a pirate flag. Platner naturally went on Pod Save
Speaker 2: America to discuss his Nazi chest start because apparently he
Speaker 2: was He's like, he was trying to get ahead of
Speaker 2: ops of like Oppo research, to be like, look I
Speaker 2: got this, maybe maybe let me just get out here.
Speaker 2: So this is this I was described Platter first publicly
Speaker 2: admitted he had the tattoo on his chest during an
Speaker 2: appearance on Positive America last week, after images of it
Speaker 2: had surfaced on social media. He claimed he got the
Speaker 2: tattoo in two thousand and seven while he was quote
Speaker 2: very inebriated on leave with some fellow Marines in Croatia.
Speaker 1: Quote we chose, we.
Speaker 3: Chose in Croatia.
Speaker 2: Come, yeah, no, don't no need to look up what
Speaker 2: might have been happening in Croatia during World War Two either,
Speaker 2: He said, quote we chose a terrifying skull and crossbones
Speaker 2: off the wall because we were Marines and skulls and
Speaker 2: crossbones are pretty standard military thing.
Speaker 1: And then we all moved on with our lives.
Speaker 2: He again denies holding any kind of anti Semitic beliefs.
Speaker 2: He said, quote, I'm not a secret Nazi. Actually, if
Speaker 2: you read through my Reddit comments, I think i'm pretty
Speaker 2: much too on my chest.
Speaker 1: I'm not a secret Nazi.
Speaker 2: I think you can pretty much figure out where I
Speaker 2: stand on Nazism and anti Semitism and racism in general.
Speaker 1: Is He pointing to Reddit comments.
Speaker 2: Because his Reddit comments, people found his dit account and
Speaker 2: were like, what the fuck is this guy posting? Like
Speaker 2: he was posting shit like, well, why don't black people
Speaker 2: tip okay and said sexual assault victims should quote take
Speaker 2: some responsibility for themselves and not get so fucked up
Speaker 2: they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to.
Speaker 1: Or like getting a Nazi tattoo or something.
Speaker 3: This is this is like, you know, I have a
Speaker 3: lot of thoughts on this story because I am, on
Speaker 3: the one hand, I actually really do support the you know,
Speaker 3: the economic populist message, and I think it's really important.
Speaker 3: I think main it can be purple in you know,
Speaker 3: in some places. And I think he being an outsider
Speaker 3: is good. I think running as an independent is even better.
Speaker 3: I know he's running for you know, obviously as a Democrat,
Speaker 3: and I don't think Janet Mills is the worst corporate democrat. Now,
Speaker 3: there might be stuff in her past. I'm got her
Speaker 3: open secrets up. I'm not seeing apac.
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it is probably the bigger thing because
Speaker 1: she was seventy nine. I think by the time she'd
Speaker 1: and that.
Speaker 3: Is a huge thing. I mean, being an old ass
Speaker 3: senator is pretty pretty bad. You you know, senators just
Speaker 3: kind of stay and then they sort of die, and
Speaker 3: then they don't like them there's a special.
Speaker 1: Election and they don't know what they're voting for. You,
Speaker 1: they do like to freeze up, freeze up every once
Speaker 1: in a while they knew, or fall.
Speaker 3: Down, yeah, but you know, or dyeing office. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: but Jana Mills also with someone who's like one of
Speaker 3: the first governors who stood up to Trump as he
Speaker 3: like called Maine out around I think trans athletes in sports,
Speaker 3: and she's sort of stepped to some of her legislators
Speaker 3: who don't agree with her in terms of allowing trans
Speaker 3: athletes to participate. Blah blah, blah blah. She's not the
Speaker 3: worst person, is what I'm trying to say. But of course,
Speaker 3: anyone who's humor endorses is like, Okay, here's the thing
Speaker 3: about Graham Platner. I don't know if I believe the
Speaker 3: Nazi tattoo is something you pick off a wall, but
Speaker 3: also so many dumbfucks in the world do that exact
Speaker 3: same thing. Is just pick some shit off a wall
Speaker 3: and are like, oh, this says you know, I love
Speaker 3: anal and Chinese. Okay, you know what I mean? Like that,
Speaker 3: that's a challenge exactly. So now here's what I will say.
Speaker 3: The last thing is I don't know if he should
Speaker 3: be senator. And the reason I say that is because again,
Speaker 3: senators have an incredible, outsized, ridiculous amount of power. The
Speaker 3: Senate is the most undemocratic body in our country. And
Speaker 3: I have seen the way that Kirsten Cinema that John
Speaker 3: Fetterman that these characters right, is it John? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: never call him by his first name. But like, these
Speaker 3: characters were independents, they were outsiders, they were upstarts, and
Speaker 3: then very easily sort of became corrupted, lost their minds
Speaker 3: in different ways. And I do think I'm not someone
Speaker 3: who believes in pecking order, but lately, with the experience
Speaker 3: of outsider Senate candidates, I've been having a bit of
Speaker 3: heart palpitations around someone getting to.
Speaker 1: This is just like the pressure inside the office inside
Speaker 1: the Senate is so great that it's just like you
Speaker 1: get in there and immediately it's like putting on the
Speaker 1: ring and Lord of the rings.
Speaker 3: You're just like, yes, that is exactly what it's like.
Speaker 3: It is. It needs to be reformed, it needs to
Speaker 3: be dismantled.
Speaker 1: So that's why you need a lifelong like someone who's
Speaker 1: part who this is part of their cause. Like part
Speaker 1: of their identity and not something that they've recently, like
Speaker 1: started hinting towards.
Speaker 3: I think they have to be time tested and have
Speaker 3: held office before. And I just feel like I'm not
Speaker 3: quite sure he's ready for the Senate. And I'm being
Speaker 3: totally honest that, like, I would love to see an
Speaker 3: economic populace in the Senate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need it. It does seem like a pretty
Speaker 1: kind of low hanging fruit, like anybody could do it,
Speaker 1: but the Democratic Party just refuses to allow them to,
Speaker 1: I guess or pre candidates who were willing to.
Speaker 2: Like the hard part is like you had a Nazi
Speaker 2: tattoo for a really long time in your campaign manager
Speaker 2: who resigned says that he's a he's into World War
Speaker 2: two history. So is it that, like I get the
Speaker 2: I totally understand fucking up and being in a completely
Speaker 2: dark place. I don't think any person who has like
Speaker 2: their head on their shoulders would ever say they were
Speaker 2: a fully formed person forever.
Speaker 1: And had all the right takes. I certainly didn't came
Speaker 1: out like this, Okay.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I came out like this, but like.
Speaker 1: Old combustion engines, boring child, do you know the model
Speaker 1: t oh my god, here goes.
Speaker 2: But like it's that's the part where I'm like, how
Speaker 2: long did it take?
Speaker 1: Did you know? Or was it a thing?
Speaker 2: Where then you there's there one version where like you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh shit, this is a Nazi tattoo. I don't
Speaker 1: even want to fuck his shoulders.
Speaker 2: To somebody to get it removed. Do I just keep
Speaker 2: this as my dark secret? He's now saying he's getting
Speaker 2: it covered with another tattoo because like removal options are.
Speaker 1: Now limit where he's at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on some level, that's just like what I'm kind
Speaker 2: of like, God, why do why do all these people
Speaker 2: have to have somehow be adjacent to this ship.
Speaker 1: Or anyway this and this is like very conspiracy conspiratorial thinking,
Speaker 1: but that they like let people like do like get
Speaker 1: pick up steam. Then the Democratic Party like recon knows
Speaker 1: about this. They let somebody pick up steam, and then
Speaker 1: they're like haha, and then they leak the fact that
Speaker 1: they have not.
Speaker 3: It's just like so to get people excited about something
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 1: So that they can continually undercut the idea of economic
Speaker 1: populism so that it seems like man, anytime one of
Speaker 1: these economic populist pops up they've got a dark secret
Speaker 1: in their past. I don't put it past them. The
Speaker 1: only thing about that is that it would require quite
Speaker 1: a bit of competence on behalf of the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: that I don't know that I've seen them possess otherwise,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Just generally, I mean, like they know they're going to
Speaker 2: do their research on anyone they're curious about in associate
Speaker 2: if they especially if you become an op so on
Speaker 2: some level they probably have it. And you know, like
Speaker 2: campaigns sit on opposition research until and they figure out
Speaker 2: when to deploy it based on how things are going.
Speaker 2: So I mean it's not totally out of the realm
Speaker 2: of possibility.
Speaker 3: I I yeah, I mean I just think that, like
Speaker 3: we have to move, we definitely have to make space
Speaker 3: for people to like apologize for their past up for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And and and I think it matters that you know,
Speaker 3: he is a white guy. I'm not sure you know,
Speaker 3: people would be so generous if he was a woman,
Speaker 3: a person of color, Like, I don't know. And yet
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're in Maine and want to vote
Speaker 3: for Grand Planner, hold him accountable, make sure he doesn't
Speaker 3: go to the Feederman route.
Speaker 1: But I think one of those.
Speaker 2: We knew Fetterman pulled a shotgun on a black guy,
Speaker 2: no for no reasons.
Speaker 1: There another sign to me. I was like mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 2: And he's like, Dawn, look, I was whacked out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you you're you're the type of person
Speaker 1: to even do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have question marks. You're the type of person
Speaker 2: and not know you're getting a totin cough tattoo. I look,
Speaker 2: I get the dumb tattoo thing, but for letting it
Speaker 2: cook this many years or something, I'm a little bit like,
Speaker 2: but again.
Speaker 1: It is, it is.
Speaker 2: It's sort of it is deflating because you're like, this
Speaker 2: is the kind of messaging you need for candidates who
Speaker 2: are going up to unseat these establishment Republicans or Democrats whatever,
Speaker 2: Like this is the kind of messaging. It's just unfortunate
Speaker 2: that this guy didn't have a shit together enough to
Speaker 2: like maybe get the tattoo like removed before you ran
Speaker 2: for office, so then you could be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I had that shit remove man. That was that was
Speaker 2: an l oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Yeah. I will say going back to something
Speaker 1: that recent guest Tim Batt said about the idea of
Speaker 1: trying a system of politics where power is kind of
Speaker 1: given jury duty style at random to different people because
Speaker 1: the people who seek power have weird shit going on
Speaker 1: with them almost as a rule. Yes, Like it's interesting
Speaker 1: because we're also seeing just like a huge epidemic of
Speaker 1: Republican operatives and politicians. You know that they just had
Speaker 1: Trump's nominee for to lead a key US federal watchdog agency.
Speaker 1: I have to in Gia have to drop out because
Speaker 1: he had sent in this group chat. I've got a
Speaker 1: bit of a Nazi streak, Like it's like.
Speaker 6: This, I like you said that people who are Nazi,
Speaker 6: I don't call me, I got me guys, But it's
Speaker 6: people who have a fascination with the Nazi party keep
Speaker 6: showing up not.
Speaker 1: Really on both sides, but like there is one now
Speaker 1: on the Democratic side. But it's like this is a
Speaker 1: party that worshiped power for power's sake. So it like
Speaker 1: makes sense that people who are very ambitious and like
Speaker 1: going after power in any political sense that they can
Speaker 1: find it would like be like ten seventy percent more
Speaker 1: like to be like, man, the Nazi shure, we're interesting,
Speaker 1: huh just.
Speaker 2: Power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm just just fascinated with their machinery, the technology. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the technio, the embroidered napkins that I collect. No,
Speaker 3: I do think though, with the Ingrassia like unnomination that
Speaker 3: shows progress. Look, we're like a week out of these
Speaker 3: Republican young Republicans text messages being leaked, the vile ship
Speaker 3: that they were saying, and JD. Vance is telling us
Speaker 3: that they were just kids, which they weren't and it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter and.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't get upset about it.
Speaker 3: But this is this is revealing. But actually internally it
Speaker 3: did cause they know it looks bad. Their whole thing
Speaker 3: is plausible deniability white nationalism. So this, you know, you
Speaker 3: can't give up the game just yet. You know, they
Speaker 3: haven't completed the fascist takeover. They're working on it, and
Speaker 3: it's like surprise, we're Nazis. I mean grass he is
Speaker 3: not going to go away. He's going to be part
Speaker 3: of the inner circle. He's just not going to have
Speaker 3: the role that you know, the official rule confirmed.
Speaker 1: Yeah it doesn't like it's actually, but the Republican side
Speaker 1: is in a war between plausible deniability white nationalism and
Speaker 1: implausible deniability nationalism where they're just like so obvious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't need like we just need to say that.
Speaker 1: It's that we're denying it, but it's obvious to both
Speaker 1: sides that we're actually saying, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the Greg Guttfeld, you know, like, well, well
Speaker 3: why don't we just be the n word?
Speaker 1: Yea, the Nazis just own it. I mean Trump gave
Speaker 1: that speech when he was the Charlie Kirk thing where
Speaker 1: he was bragging about how good he moved his head
Speaker 1: to avoid being assassinated. I think during that same speech
Speaker 1: he also was like talking about Stephen Miller, and he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I stand behind his beliefs. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't say yeah, I can't say publicly. It's like
Speaker 1: he's just openly being like, this guy's a Nazi.
Speaker 3: No, he said. He's like, you know, I love to
Speaker 3: watch it, but not not too much because I don't
Speaker 3: think we all want to know what he's got to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna lie. It's pretty shocking stuff, he said.
Speaker 1: Shocking Trump like, what the fuck boy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a bit of a Nazi.
Speaker 1: Uh. Anyway, that's not see that's the word, right, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back and we're back, and continued fallout from ICE having
Speaker 1: to lower their standards when it comes to bringing in
Speaker 1: new agents. Yeah, we talked on yesterday's episode about how
Speaker 1: firearms training. They're like, we'll just like kind of YadA
Speaker 1: YadA through that one, that Fourth.
Speaker 2: Amendment training, like specifically fucking the most live in parts
Speaker 2: of sending someone out there with a gun to fucking
Speaker 2: harassed people. It's like, well, here's just know this about
Speaker 2: the rights of people and how to use gun. So
Speaker 2: there was a fucking another ICE goon rayd happening in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles where you know, they're out chasing people merely
Speaker 2: for being brown on Tuesday and in their frenzy of
Speaker 2: smashing into people's cars because that's their new favorite tactic,
Speaker 2: and to disappear them because then they're.
Speaker 1: Like, we rammed us.
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, I don't anyway, shit went left and
Speaker 2: they the fucking cops ended up shooting each other on accident.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: Investigators believe shots were fired after an ICE agent came
Speaker 2: up to the suspects vehicle stop, saying suspect first of all, right,
Speaker 2: and smashed the window using their service weapon, according to
Speaker 2: c and then the agent's weapon is believed to have
Speaker 2: discharged during an attempt to grab the suspect, striking both
Speaker 2: the suspect and the deputy marshal in the process. So
Speaker 2: he shot off of the marshall's finger and then shot
Speaker 2: this other person, this person who was presumably just Brown,
Speaker 2: in the elbow.
Speaker 1: They're such highly trained weapon experts that they don't remember
Speaker 1: to not grab someone with the gun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, legit, legit, like this is this
Speaker 3: is going to keep happening. I mean, it has happened,
Speaker 3: It's going to keep happening. We've seen them in Chicago
Speaker 3: throw tear gas canisters on themselves, like while they're stuck
Speaker 3: in a car in traffic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are.
Speaker 2: The family running out with their child in the car
Speaker 2: seat to get away from the tear gas.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, like it's really interesting because
Speaker 3: I've I've only been I've protested a lot. In the
Speaker 3: early two thousands, they were not unleashing the tear gas
Speaker 3: on people. And the way they started to in a round,
Speaker 3: you know, when Trump came into office, because that they
Speaker 3: didn't dis they didn't disperse occupy with tear gas, but
Speaker 3: tear gas really became a thing. I remember my first
Speaker 3: protest with tear gas, which I was like, what is
Speaker 3: this was? You know, I mean the OPD Oakland Police
Speaker 3: has been doing that for a while, but I was like, shit,
Speaker 3: this is like blocks long that tear gas will affect you.
Speaker 3: It should be banned. Fuck tear gas, We should like
Speaker 3: ban it. It should be you know, internationally banned. Blah
Speaker 3: blah blah.
Speaker 1: But like they'll keep shooting themselves with it so often
Speaker 1: that they have to Yeah, just like but you've seen them.
Speaker 3: They'll arrest people, they will detain people, they will disappear people,
Speaker 3: and then there's always a moment where like one dude
Speaker 3: is like grabbing his gun, you know, and you're like
Speaker 3: but but not sure to grab it, not sure whether
Speaker 3: And it's like that is that is what we call
Speaker 3: no training. If you ever thought there could be less
Speaker 3: training than cops, Like you're looking at it. It's like
Speaker 3: they're not sure whether to put out their gun or
Speaker 3: whether whether to when to hold it or whatnot. These
Speaker 3: are all like hordes of sad dads who at home
Speaker 3: have unlocked firearms within reach of their own children.
Speaker 1: Like that's there was one.
Speaker 2: Where the guy fucking dropped his gun while he was
Speaker 2: trying to apprehend someone. It's just loose on the ground
Speaker 2: and bystanders like, bro, you're.
Speaker 1: Gun and he's like, oh, they always look so like
Speaker 1: hurried and just like it's also haphazards and fucking no.
Speaker 3: Can they get the missile launchers? They won't have to
Speaker 3: use their guns.
Speaker 2: Anymore because the warheads will be guided. Yes, because they
Speaker 2: have those armament systems available to them. It sounds like
Speaker 2: most of the spending has been for bulletproof vests and
Speaker 2: guns and rifles, but they still have plenty more cash
Speaker 2: to spend on things they absolutely do not need.
Speaker 3: Well, Christinome is getting luxury jets.
Speaker 2: Well these are twenty five year old jets. And you
Speaker 2: know you're you're the Christinome, You're the Christine over the.
Speaker 1: Five year old p j. It's disgusting, disgusting, fucking like
Speaker 1: the leather's cracking on one of the seats. It's like,
Speaker 1: looks like a ghetto uber. Do you guys not even
Speaker 1: condition this leather? Fuck? Is this all right? There's a
Speaker 1: story out of Pueblo County, Colorado that I just want
Speaker 1: to hear some theories. Maybe we can do a little
Speaker 1: bit of rey. When I brought this up, you were
Speaker 1: I didn't even know this. This is the thing that
Speaker 1: we've seen before where it's a scandal erupts because a
Speaker 1: coronor coronor coron I keep calling a coronor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, has just do less, do less with do less
Speaker 3: with the o's it's.
Speaker 1: Corner corner, corner, the corner. A corner has been high
Speaker 1: like hoarding bodies and like not for like a couple
Speaker 1: months that like this dude was had bodies that were
Speaker 1: fifteen years old.
Speaker 2: So this County corner had to resign because they were discovering.
Speaker 2: This is just in August, investigators found twenty four decomposing
Speaker 2: bodies behind a cardboard door.
Speaker 1: That's that's where it comes from, right, So my my
Speaker 1: theory is this keeps happening because they're lazy and like
Speaker 1: the way like you'll get your inbox will get on
Speaker 1: top of you for a day and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I never like got to that email, Like that's them
Speaker 1: with dead bodies.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm here, I have how many emails do you
Speaker 3: have in your own box?
Speaker 2: So many dead bodies he has in it.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never built a fake cardboard door to
Speaker 1: hide my email, you know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 1: suggests some nefariousness.
Speaker 2: So this Corner owned a funeral home with his brother.
Speaker 2: That's where they found it. They said some of the
Speaker 2: bodies which were supposed to be cremated had been there
Speaker 2: for at least fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Carter, also a quote.
Speaker 2: Admitted that he may have given some families some fake
Speaker 2: cremated remains.
Speaker 1: He may have given some sad.
Speaker 2: Well, if the bodies here, what did you give them?
Speaker 1: Given them?
Speaker 3: Yeahs, I've met corners. I met a Corner once, okay
Speaker 3: or I don't know, but he worked with dead bodies.
Speaker 3: He was at he was at the University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: I did like a National geographic story about when you
Speaker 3: donate your body to science and like, you know, a
Speaker 3: bunch of med students, you know, dissect it and they
Speaker 3: do not respect it. But it's weird, Like it is
Speaker 3: a weird ass job to be alone with a bunch
Speaker 3: of dead bodies and like taking out the brain, you know,
Speaker 3: and like draining them and doing all these things. And
Speaker 3: there's not I don't think there's like eyes on you
Speaker 3: very much, and especially at a funeral home, not living ones,
Speaker 3: not living eyes on you. The question number one, there's
Speaker 3: no amount of for breeze that can hide the smell
Speaker 3: of twenty four decomposing bodies.
Speaker 1: But also says you, I.
Speaker 3: Mean or glade plug ins.
Speaker 1: It's a real moment. Not behind this hermetically sealed cardboard door.
Speaker 3: What you do is you blow, you get It's like
Speaker 3: it's like smoking weed in a college dorm room. You know,
Speaker 3: you stuff, yeah, all the all the balance dryer sheets,
Speaker 3: animal thing. Then you blow the decomposing body smell through
Speaker 3: it and nobody's smell towel under the door. But yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, was he selling body parts that I
Speaker 3: stand they're in high demand, you know, or like different
Speaker 3: pieces of like you know, there was one corner who
Speaker 3: was found to be like selling pieces of ears to
Speaker 3: like different halloween shops and shit like that. But also
Speaker 3: I do think that, like it's expensive, it's expensive to
Speaker 3: do dead body work them all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, so is it just cost savings?
Speaker 3: I think it is cost saving.
Speaker 1: You think it's just like we didn't have the money
Speaker 1: to like fire up the cremation of them that day.
Speaker 1: Cost saving it. It just burned the fucking thing to ash.
Speaker 1: And so that's the thing. He like, what did it
Speaker 1: cost him over the course of fifteen years to like
Speaker 1: hide them, because it can't just be fucking rotting in
Speaker 1: the hot like in a hot room, right, it's just
Speaker 1: so great. It's a temperature controlled pit. Okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: just like a fine wine. I think there's something like
Speaker 1: I want to hear from coron or is coroners from
Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Corners and anybody who has experienced with
Speaker 1: this about or like has read a good thing about
Speaker 1: this about just like what like I think Corners have
Speaker 1: their own shit going on, Yes they do. I think
Speaker 1: you're right, Francesca that like to do that job, you
Speaker 1: need to be like at least a click off, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Such a click off, and like they know it. And
Speaker 3: the other thing is like at a certain point, like
Speaker 3: it's there's so many dead bodies, like that's not a
Speaker 3: person anymore, that's not a loved one. I know that's
Speaker 3: sad to say, but that's not how they view it.
Speaker 3: They're just like that is a cadaver. There is nothing left,
Speaker 3: Like if they would have been haunted at this point,
Speaker 3: and they're not, They're like cool, you.
Speaker 1: Actually just forget about them, kind of they never come
Speaker 1: back and like haunt you in the middle of the nights.
Speaker 2: I keep waiting to wake up to shine rattling. How
Speaker 2: many did I have back there behind my cardboard door.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Oh yeah, I think we got
Speaker 1: like twenty three dead bodies.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I remember this around the whole Mantitalo thing happened
Speaker 2: and like it was his girlfriend.
Speaker 7: I was like, sorry, threw me for a loop and like,
Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember a sod it was
Speaker 7: it was this was It was a crazy year, just.
Speaker 1: Completely fucking distracted me. Man. The fucking sad bit about
Speaker 1: that balloon guy in that balloon kid, Yeah, balloon boy,
Speaker 1: that really fucked me up. Like I felt like I
Speaker 1: got really whiplashed on this story.
Speaker 2: There's like a sad wrinkle to this story because there
Speaker 2: was another guy who is named Interim Corner and he
Speaker 2: was trying to like regain the trust of the community
Speaker 2: here after the scandal by throwing a quote family friendly
Speaker 2: Halloween party, which they like the Corners the Corner's office
Speaker 2: anounced this on their faceboody age and it said, quote.
Speaker 8: We're a costume mom and dad included and hit the
Speaker 8: dusty trail enjoyed treats and games and spooky times with
Speaker 8: family and friends, and the entire me was like, bruh, no.
Speaker 3: You're a funeral home having a Halloween party is just like.
Speaker 1: Well, this is different because that was that was specific
Speaker 1: to that corner.
Speaker 2: That was like his side business he had, which is
Speaker 2: where the like, this was just more the official corner's
Speaker 2: office for the county being.
Speaker 3: Like hey gang, hey Yang with dead bodies.
Speaker 1: It Uh yeah, I don't know already the corner.
Speaker 3: This is me realizing that a corner works for the city.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like an official position.
Speaker 3: Oh right, I know that I do a show about politics.
Speaker 8: I knew that.
Speaker 3: I thought a corner is just someone who handles the
Speaker 3: dead bodies. But okay, it's official.
Speaker 1: It's official. They have to be like I want to
Speaker 1: be that because let me do that. It's funny. I
Speaker 1: just get in there. Just now.
Speaker 2: I texted my friend who one of my best friends.
Speaker 2: She's she's like a like a trauma nurse, works out
Speaker 2: like she's worked in every part of the hospital basically,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I just on the cas was like, hey,
Speaker 2: random question, like what are like corners? People like who's
Speaker 2: who sore the deceased, Like, what's your experience with them?
Speaker 2: And she was like, she brought up one of our
Speaker 2: mutual friends. She's like, you know someone so those girlfriends
Speaker 2: a mortician, right, She's like, she's like, in my experience
Speaker 2: is like they're all alt kind of alt people.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah yeah. And I was like, huh but not.
Speaker 2: And I was like, but like, like you ever meet
Speaker 2: one and you're like, there's their storm bodies. She's like,
Speaker 2: I mean not all of them, just you know, but
Speaker 2: definitely you kind of you got something else going on
Speaker 2: if you're like and I'm kind of relaxed around this.
Speaker 1: So this is on the city.
Speaker 4: This is like on.
Speaker 3: But I don't understand the corner. The corner shouldn't like
Speaker 3: how does this work? I'm sorry. The coroner's job isn't
Speaker 3: a cream made isn't the corner's job to be like, yep,
Speaker 3: this person died, now got him off to a funeral home.
Speaker 2: He might be They might be self dealing where he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: just so you know, I got your body here, you know,
Speaker 2: also run.
Speaker 1: Integration yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty soon they're gonna also
Speaker 1: buy some old age homes, you know, and then just
Speaker 1: keep moving their way down. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I not the worst thing the corner's done. I mean again,
Speaker 3: no body parts were sold that we know to on eBay.
Speaker 2: But what but what of those remains? Were they desecrated
Speaker 2: in some manner?
Speaker 1: Right? That is the dark like the immediate question that,
Speaker 1: like the scenario my mind goes to. And because if
Speaker 1: you're what are you keeping them for?
Speaker 3: Well, what was your theory?
Speaker 1: Jack?
Speaker 4: It was that.
Speaker 1: It's so my question was like trying to put myself
Speaker 1: in that position.
Speaker 3: It's just like work got away from work overload.
Speaker 1: Yea work over from your perspective.
Speaker 2: Sorry, this got buried in my inbox exactly got buried
Speaker 2: in got buried.
Speaker 1: In my inbox?
Speaker 3: Or didn't get buried?
Speaker 1: Am I?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: The card fake cardboard door? I need to see what
Speaker 1: that looks like. If it was if it was just
Speaker 1: a piece of cardboard that they just threw up to
Speaker 1: like keep the smell in place. Maybe if it was
Speaker 1: like a good facssembly of a door, then we might
Speaker 1: have problems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I was just because I did the piece
Speaker 3: I did was about decomposition, and so like all the
Speaker 3: juices at like after like a week or two are
Speaker 3: gone and then it just becomes dried skin on bone.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a tails from the Crypt
Speaker 3: type situation, skin on or I don't know, skin on bone.
Speaker 1: But then even yeah, that at a sexually formative time
Speaker 1: of his life saw the crypt Keeper and was like,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I.
Speaker 2: Gotta fuck that eyeholes, that keeper, that ocular cavity is
Speaker 2: doing something to me.
Speaker 1: There is wild ship that has done though. Like sometimes
Speaker 1: people donate their body and it goes to you know,
Speaker 1: medical research, and the medical students like make fun nicknames
Speaker 1: for them and you know, do a bunch of gallows humor.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it goes to the military and you're like being
Speaker 1: you're dead bodies being like rocketed through the sky and
Speaker 1: like exploded, Like just wild shit happening.
Speaker 3: So was there a cadaver in that tesla that's orbiting Earth?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, probably not the trunk.
Speaker 3: Hopefully, Look, when the revolution happens, it'll be Elon's. And
Speaker 3: I say that in the most non violent way possible.
Speaker 1: Yes, just he'll he'll that's how he's going to try
Speaker 1: to get tomorrows. He's going to just try and drive. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to rocket his way out of here.
Speaker 1: And then his rocket fails.
Speaker 2: I mean that probably would so long suckers.
Speaker 3: No, I do think launching people into space is a
Speaker 3: good way. Like that is the modern day guillotine is
Speaker 3: you have to ride your rocket out.
Speaker 1: Of rocket ride rock.
Speaker 3: Dude, I would go to that rocket launch Are you
Speaker 3: kidding me?
Speaker 2: I mean that rocket sci fi dystopia film where like
Speaker 2: the new form of public execution is rocket riding.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 2: Try rocket right, someone's going.
Speaker 1: Up this space?
Speaker 3: What's it? What's that?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Really creepy children's story. It's not children's but it was
Speaker 3: like they.
Speaker 1: All lottery, Yeah, the lottery. It's like the lottery, but
Speaker 1: is a short story that I had to read in
Speaker 1: seventh grade, so did I. Where they it's like a
Speaker 1: small community. It just like describes it in detail. It's
Speaker 1: like a you know, kind of commune vibes. And then
Speaker 1: there's like a big lottery that everybody's excited for and
Speaker 1: the person who like wins it in the end, like Twist,
Speaker 1: gets stoned to death.
Speaker 3: They just get stoned to death. Like it's the most
Speaker 3: it is a it's a perfectly you learn about short stories.
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing you learn about how to write suspense.
Speaker 1: It is a huge like a foundational It's like one
Speaker 1: of the legs of the table that the Hunger Games
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, you know what. But anyways, great
Speaker 1: short story. Did you read Occurrence at out Creek by
Speaker 1: Ambrose Beers? Yeah, the one where like the guy like
Speaker 1: escapes from a hanging Yeah, and then what oh yeah
Speaker 1: short story short story very similar, Like those are the
Speaker 1: two most formative short stories on me and they both
Speaker 1: have twist endings. So it was a big fan of it.
Speaker 1: That was the one thing I remember reading that.
Speaker 2: In it, he talks about how like a sharp shore
Speaker 2: had gray eyes, and I supposed that people had great
Speaker 2: with gray eyes, had better eyesight.
Speaker 1: This is all just civil wars bullshit. And then Steph
Speaker 1: Curry came along and proved him right.
Speaker 2: Exactly Ambrose Beers. He's like, you've done me well, Steph.
Speaker 1: Well, Francesca, such a pleasure having you as always on
Speaker 1: the daily site geist. Where can people find you? Follow you?
Speaker 1: Hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to the Situation Room podcast. You can also
Speaker 3: watch it on YouTube. I'm doing deep dives now, so
Speaker 3: like thirty minute sometimes an hour, but long form videos
Speaker 3: with jokes trying to make it fun. So yeah, YouTube
Speaker 3: dot com, slash frannifio f R and I if I
Speaker 3: always where you get that?
Speaker 1: I just have to spell that up. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: is there a working media that you've been enjoying? Come
Speaker 1: back to me second, miles people find you and we'll
Speaker 1: come back to you. Miles. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: And is there a working media you've been in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. If you
Speaker 2: want to hear me chat shit about ninety day fiance,
Speaker 2: check out four twenty day Fiance. A couple posts I
Speaker 2: like at Sarah Lazare to viscottasocial posted just in regards
Speaker 2: to Chicago. It's hard to convey just how much Chicagoans
Speaker 2: are mobilizing against Ice. Don't want to downplay the harm
Speaker 2: or make it seem like a fair fight, but in
Speaker 2: neighborhoods across the city, Ice is getting chased by people
Speaker 2: blowing whistles and shouting.
Speaker 1: People are running toward Ice to protect their neighbors. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's Sarah Lazarre, that's my friend, journalist and she's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but that's amazing people running at Ice.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The whistle thing, The whistle thing I think is super
Speaker 2: effective that I've seen, like with those clips, because yeah,
Speaker 2: it's an immediate alert, and if you have another one
Speaker 2: on you, that ship.
Speaker 1: Can just reverberate.
Speaker 2: Another one is at l is an island of the
Speaker 2: Skuys social post And I'm not sure you can get
Speaker 2: more Marie Antoinette than taking away food stamps before Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: What you build a golden marble dance hall so other
Speaker 2: crooks can bribe you over a badly cooked Argentinian steak?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really is? It really is gonna be in retrospect pretty
Speaker 1: clear that they were that they were fucking up. It's like,
Speaker 1: huh huh, So I guess that was bad and they're
Speaker 1: ignoring as people could afford less and less fit.
Speaker 2: And the elite didn't see it coming.
Speaker 3: No, the whole ballroom is going to be full of
Speaker 3: like nothing but honey traps, like honey trap, honey pot whatever,
Speaker 3: God just all they just toilets also probably yes, golden
Speaker 3: toilets and honey pots.
Speaker 1: Francesca is their working media that you've been able to
Speaker 1: find that you know.
Speaker 3: Mac Burns on Twitter was quote tweeting.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 3: Right wing influencer Emily Austin has launched Hot Girls for Cuomo.
Speaker 3: So you know I have I got to get in
Speaker 3: on that satsire So I'm about to go record something now,
Speaker 3: stay tuned. But Matt Burnstein says, honestly, I was skeptical,
Speaker 3: but they did a good job with the website, and
Speaker 3: of course I clicked, and I'm like, did they? And
Speaker 3: it's just the report of investigation into allegations of statement
Speaker 3: a sexual harassment by Governor Andrew M. Cuomo August twenty
Speaker 3: And it's all the fact findings from the I think
Speaker 3: thirteen plus women who accused him of sexual harassment assault.
Speaker 3: So good for you, Matt Bernstein.
Speaker 1: There you go. It's funny workimedia. I've been enjoying. Eugenia
Speaker 1: Cuta Kuyda tweeted, I've been thinking about this David Foster
Speaker 1: Wallace quote more and more recently. And the quote is
Speaker 1: the technology is just going to get better and better
Speaker 1: and better and better, and it's going to get easier
Speaker 1: and easier and more and more convenient and more and
Speaker 1: more pleasurable to be alone with images on a screen
Speaker 1: given to us by people who do not love us,
Speaker 1: but one our money, which is all right in low doses. Right,
Speaker 1: But if that's the basic main staple of your diet.
Speaker 1: You're gonna die in a meaningful way. You're going to die.
Speaker 1: Why are you?
Speaker 3: Damn? Shit is different than the Daily zeicas in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. Guys, they're all like's.
Speaker 1: Not fun one dark today? I just I just got college.
Speaker 1: He wrote that? Or you know he died in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I think so he was he was
Speaker 1: onto something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is he like a writer?
Speaker 1: Because that was like, really, well, right, now, do you
Speaker 1: have like a book? I can read his his profile
Speaker 1: of I think it's in a book called Consider the
Speaker 1: Lobster and Other short Nonfiction. And there's a profile of
Speaker 1: the San Fernando Valley in the porn industry that's really
Speaker 1: good called Big Red Side Good.
Speaker 3: Is it good to read him? Or is it just
Speaker 3: I was like watching memes about like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: guys who want you to read David Foster Wallace.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I really liked that collection of nonfiction.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I tried to read Infinite gest and couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. So I am not one of those guys,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you haven't read Infinite Just yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it's nonfiction. Also, somebody tweeted a picture of
Speaker 1: some of the young Republicans who were in that chat
Speaker 1: and said, I like how young Republicans all store their
Speaker 1: griped mass in their central tour so they look like
Speaker 1: they've been genetically engineered to survive golf cart crashes.
Speaker 3: They really are. They're built like doors like Jesus.
Speaker 1: It's kind of wild. You can find me on Twitter
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Speaker 2: They're like a kind of like psych folk group. But
Speaker 2: there's some like live performances of theirs that are it
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