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Speaker 1: Oh here we go on a Friday. Was that a

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Speaker 1: heater last night?

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Speaker 3: Or what?

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Speaker 1: How great is college football? The Miami Hurricanes will play.

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Speaker 1: They are back for a national championship ten days from now.

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd. We're in La wherever you may be,

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Speaker 1: however you may be listening or watching. Thanks for making

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Speaker 1: us part of your day. Yes, I will have a

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Speaker 1: blazing five.

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Speaker 1: I found a fifth game Tube. Bet. We had a

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Speaker 1: great season percent I feel pretty good about it. It's

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Speaker 1: our postseason blazing five. I'm not letting you erode our

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Speaker 1: regular season winning percentage. We go to our postseason blazing five.

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Speaker 1: Jay McK and I sat and watched that game together

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Speaker 1: last night, maybe over a cold brew. Wow wow. So

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Speaker 1: let's start with this Miami. The Miami Hurricanes, regardless of

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Speaker 1: who they play, will be the most talented team in

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Speaker 1: the National Championship. They've got more talent in Indiana, and

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Speaker 1: they got more talent in Oregon. And they physically dominated

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Speaker 1: Old Miss, but Ole Miss took two fourth quarter leads.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm not sure if Miami can beat in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Between the Hurricanes drop passes, drop picks, late hits, penalties,

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Speaker 1: and weird play calling, you let your opponent back in

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Speaker 1: games all year. Miami needed a touchdown with eighteen seconds left,

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Speaker 1: yet they had a forty one minute to eighteen minute

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Speaker 1: time of possession advantage. They pushed All Miss all over

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Speaker 1: the field. You can't beat Indiana and be that inefficient.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how much more talent you have. You

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Speaker 1: may may be able to beat Oregon. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: did Carson Beck throw thirty seven times? Why he could

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Speaker 1: have thrown seven times. They were running all over ol Miss,

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Speaker 1: and they started doing flea flickers and difficult passes and

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Speaker 1: risky sideline throws. I don't know if Miami plays complimentary football,

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Speaker 1: but it is just a flood of speed and size

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Speaker 1: and strength and power and aggressiveness. And let's just see

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Speaker 1: what happens. So if you want to watch talent, turn

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Speaker 1: on the Miami Hurricanes, a team that's massively improved from

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Speaker 1: the middle of the season. This team lost to Louisville,

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Speaker 1: and Louisville's not a bad program, but I mean this

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Speaker 1: team has really improved and that speaks to the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: If you want to watch some talent with efficiency, I

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Speaker 1: think you're better off to watch Oregon in Indiana. So

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Miami's aggressiveness last night. They're like a fourteen

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Speaker 1: year old after a big bag of skintles. They're all

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Speaker 1: over the place. But Chicato appreciate the talent. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: they won. College football is better when Miami's great. I'll

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Speaker 1: argue in about ten minutes about the pass interference non call,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was the right call. College football is better.

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Speaker 1: Talent absolutely wins in every level of football. But the

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Speaker 1: Patriots rarely had the most talented team. In fact, I'd

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Speaker 1: argue the Randy Moss teams with the most talented they

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Speaker 1: didn't win super Bowls. You know, Chiefs won when Tyreek

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Speaker 1: I don't know if just talent alone wins at Miami.

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Speaker 1: The play calling drove me nuts. They got too cute,

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Speaker 1: they threw too much, the late hit, the drop passes,

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Speaker 1: the drop picks. But you know what, what they are

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Speaker 1: is a symbol of what nil and transfer portal football is.

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Speaker 1: We watch them grow and mature. You're allowed to do

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Speaker 1: that now in college football. You don't have to be

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Speaker 1: at your best October eighth, and as the sports become

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Speaker 1: a little bit college football, a little bit NFL. I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that Ole Miss and Miami, we're just

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Speaker 4: That's a reflection of how awesome this sport is.

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Speaker 5: How teams have the opportunity to get better as year

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Speaker 5: goes on, how young players get to develop, Veteran players

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Speaker 5: You can get hot at the right time and things

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Speaker 5: the more we can give teams an opportunity to do

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Speaker 1: For the record, that game does not exist last night

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Speaker 1: without the transfer portal, without the NIL, without the college

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Speaker 1: want their old regional rivalries. I don't. You can have

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Speaker 1: stumble come on their nineteen twenty year old kids. Even

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Speaker 1: professional team stumble. The Rams go to Carolina. Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: October law should wreck it for a nineteen to twelve

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Speaker 1: year old kid. Miami is a symbol of what college

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Speaker 1: football now is, and I want to specifically, there was

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Speaker 1: moment last night that really crystallized to me the demise.

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Speaker 1: And it's not arguable of the SEC. There was a

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Speaker 1: years ago. Nobody pushed Georgia around LSU, around Bama, around

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Speaker 1: Bama just got housed by Indiana that play. Miami is

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Speaker 1: bigger than the SET team. They're stronger than the SEC team,

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Speaker 1: They're more physical than the SEC team. Well it's old

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Speaker 1: Miss ole Miss this year is really good to the

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Speaker 1: Miami last night when it mattered. But that play symbolized it.

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Speaker 1: You can't have a car dealer and a whiskey distributor

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Speaker 1: You need a car maker, you need a billionaire. That's

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Speaker 1: what the Notre Dames and the Michigans. The big endowments

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Speaker 1: you watched how Much Time Carson Beck had or the

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Speaker 1: physical domination. I mean, the running back for Miami is

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Speaker 1: bigger than the linebackers and defensive ends for ole Miss,

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Speaker 1: and that played to me. I mean, listen, the SEC

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Speaker 1: had five teams in the College Football Playoff. The only

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Speaker 1: what they are? One in eight minus sixty four point differential.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing against bourbon distributors, personal injury attorneys, and

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Speaker 1: car dealers, but if they're your number one nil moneybag guy,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna beat Ohio State and going forward, Michigan

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Speaker 1: USC is just right and checks left and right, Oregon

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Speaker 1: This has been the last three weeks. BAMA getting pushed

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Speaker 1: around by Indiana's offensive line. I mean, I'm watching that

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Speaker 1: run the ball forty straight times? You used to not

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Speaker 1: be able to run it twice in a row. There

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Speaker 1: were times the SEC would dominate a national championship game

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Speaker 1: So not only are SEC teams getting posted, but like

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Speaker 1: National Letter of intentde this year, forget the portal, the

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Speaker 1: National High School letter of Intent day USC Oregon Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Whoa what the no Georgian there? So man, it's a

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Speaker 1: new world of college football.

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Speaker 1: People are freaking out about the hail Mary or the

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Speaker 1: pass interference. I'll get to that around the corner Bears Packers.

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Speaker 6: By the way, this game would not have been close

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Speaker 6: if Miami didn't drop like five interceptions.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Well were we were in? Yeah, just listen. They're a

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Speaker 1: flood of raw talent, speed, athleticism. Their O line play

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Speaker 1: is dominant, and you know, teams become the personality of

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Speaker 1: their coach, right, so Mario Christobal loves UFC big guy,

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Speaker 1: warrior offensive line guy. What's the strength of their team,

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Speaker 1: in college football. You become in college football, your personality,

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Speaker 1: your head coach. That's what the team becomes. And Miami's

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Speaker 1: going to be a bully. Miami's gonna get in your grill.

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Speaker 1: be pretty. They're not always going to be efficient. I mean,

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Speaker 1: many penalties. But man, that that that is they're back.

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Speaker 6: Well, well, let's reserve judgment until they play Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Orld if you get to the Natty, your back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 6: But Indiana or Oregon, I think both would be favored

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Speaker 7: Indiana would be Oregon, Okay.

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Speaker 1: To Oregons. Like every other team not named Indiana. Oregon

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Speaker 1: makes mistakes, not as many as Miami, but they don't

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Speaker 1: be pass interference. I want to add some perspective to this.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, hour two. It's a Friday. Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: in five minutes. He used to coach in the SEC,

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Speaker 1: formerly known as the Dominating College Football Conference. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Jay Mackett looks like the Mountain West with bigger stadiums.

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Speaker 1: That's what I see. Well, I mean it's the way

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Speaker 1: I said this earlier. When you when they're certain, I'll

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Speaker 1: show it to Urban that one run play where they're

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Speaker 1: pushing all miss back ten yards. Nobody did that to

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Speaker 1: the SEC four years ago. Nick Saban There's a reason

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban could have coached and left for television. He

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Speaker 1: saw it coming. If you took Texas in Texas A

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Speaker 1: what would this conference be them? They can't compete getting

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Speaker 1: On who the boosters are exactly? Mark Cuban wrote a

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Speaker 1: I like Indiana minus three and a half. I don't

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Speaker 1: Indiana thirty three Oregon twenty eight. So you know I'm

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Speaker 1: That was gonna be my fifth bet. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 6: Final segment of the show. I like the Eagles pick

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Speaker 6: based on what we saw last night. Colin, we were

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Speaker 1: Not to me? But I think it's going Oregon to

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Speaker 6: How many of these rematches have we seen that have

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Speaker 1: Now Fox Sports joining us Live seventeen years, three national championships.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that about facing a team for the

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Speaker 3: This is a new game, new season for these two teams.

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Speaker 3: Everything's on the line. I'm actually staying at the Oregon

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Speaker 1: Wow, you know it's interesting. Belichick in his prime, the

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Speaker 3: We've been covering a lot of big new kickoff. When

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Speaker 4: It's awesome to watch.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's They're so much fun. Listen. I would happy.

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Speaker 1: I'd be happy if anybody won this Natty. I just

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about last night I said this

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Speaker 1: And Miami is not the most efficient team drop passes, penalties,

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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, they're disappearing. Teams that control the

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, play great defense, and are tough as

435
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Speaker 3: tough as hell. They're the ones that are winning games.

436
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Speaker 3: And I personally love that. I love the fact that

437
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: Miami is just that one play where the tailback got

438
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Speaker 3: hit the offense line and the entire they got eight

439
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: to ten yards post contact and you saw their head

440
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Speaker 3: coach on the sideline. I mean, I love that kind

441
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Speaker 3: of football. I think, I don't think. I think Miami

442
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: is a problem. And here's the problem for the opponents.

443
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Speaker 3: It's hard to score on Miami. And now Carson Beck

444
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: is playing like the Carson Beck that everybody talked about

445
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Speaker 3: for the last four years. That because he has all

446
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Speaker 3: the talent taking care of the ball, he's making some

447
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: great throws. Miami is a problem for whoever wins this

448
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: game tonight Indiana and.

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Speaker 4: The Oregon listen.

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Speaker 1: I said this for it was like the SEC went

451
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Speaker 1: like thirteen Natties and fifteen or sixteen or something years

452
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Speaker 1: and you could see the gap in talent. It is noticeable.

453
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Speaker 1: I use that play you talked about, coach, I said

454
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Speaker 1: that play, that run play. I'm sitting with jmac here

455
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Speaker 1: and I said, this did not happen four years ago

456
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Speaker 1: to any SEC team maybe Vandy Oh. I said, this

457
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Speaker 1: is now happening to Ole miss. I saw it happened

458
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Speaker 1: to LSU. I saw it happened to Alabama. Like, I'm sorry,

459
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Speaker 1: but the quality of SEC defenses it's just not the same.

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Speaker 1: Urban it doesn't look the same on talent. Georgia's is good,

461
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Speaker 1: but can't I mean, I mean, let's be honest, Trinidad

462
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Speaker 1: Chamblis did whatever he wanted to in the last ten

463
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Speaker 1: minutes of that game. You're seeing it. I'm seeing I

464
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Speaker 1: think Nick Saban figured it out, got out of there.

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Speaker 1: When you see it, it doesn't look like it looked

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Speaker 1: three years ago, does it?

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Speaker 4: No? And I'm trying to find out why.

468
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Speaker 3: You know, I've asked this, and I talked to a

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Speaker 3: coach I'm not going to say his name because it's

470
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Speaker 3: not Fardalhm, who played an SEC team recently. And when

471
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Speaker 3: ever you're playing that SEC team, all you do is

472
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Speaker 3: you study the SEC because you're playing your Every film

473
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Speaker 3: you watch is the previous ten games against SEC opponents.

474
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Speaker 3: And he made a comment to me exactly what you said.

475
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Speaker 3: It's not the same. You don't have that same fear factor.

476
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Speaker 3: When you said the words SEC. The first thing you

477
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Speaker 3: thought of was the defensive front seven. How in the

478
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Speaker 3: heck are we going to block these guys? And now

479
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Speaker 3: you're seeing teams get I mean Indiana hammer in Alabama,

480
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: Illinois hammering was a Tennessee you know, and then whop

481
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Speaker 3: Vanderbilt another Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Team wake file. Yeah, I think b Vanderbilt hammered Vanderbilt.

483
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Speaker 3: And that tells you whatever happens happened. I wish I

484
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Speaker 3: had an explanation. I've been thinking about this name for

485
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Speaker 3: the last shoets because I lived in both. I lived

486
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: in the SEC where you got sick on Sundays watching

487
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Speaker 3: who you're gonna play because how you going to block them?

488
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Speaker 4: And then our coached early.

489
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Speaker 3: In the Big Ten, and you didn't feel that way

490
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Speaker 3: at all because, quite honestly, wasn't hard.

491
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Speaker 1: It's hard now, yeah, it's it's crazy the uh so

492
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Speaker 1: A story happened this week and it just I didn't

493
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: like it. It's been resolved where Washington's quarterback Demon Williams

494
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: signed and said I'm going to enter the portal and

495
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: then his agent dropped it and said, we're not. And

496
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Speaker 1: my thing is urban. I give my kids occasional cake.

497
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: They don't get it for breakfast. You got to have

498
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Speaker 1: rules and guidelines if you're a company, a parent, a relationship,

499
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: there's guidelines for everything. That really bothered me that you

500
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Speaker 1: could sign a contract. Hell, if you sign a contract

501
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: in pro football, you can't get out of it. What

502
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: did coaches make of that? Now apparently he's recommitted to Washington,

503
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: but that that felt like a tipping point moment. How

504
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: did it land for you?

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Speaker 3: That's the worst thing I've heard in the last ten

506
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: years of the game. And when I started reading up

507
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Speaker 3: on it, I know the ad very well not reached

508
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: out yet at some point I will patch on it.

509
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Speaker 3: It was sickening to me that and I don't know that,

510
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know the bunk Williams Junior at all.

511
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Speaker 4: But I know what I read, and I don't know how.

512
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Speaker 3: And I saw Coach Fish's statement, the ad statement, how

513
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Speaker 3: we're going to try to heal the locker room, which

514
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Speaker 3: I guess I'm so old school. I don't know how

515
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Speaker 3: you heal that. You just turned your back on a

516
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 3: locker room. So I hope it does. But it's the

517
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Speaker 3: most disturbing thing I've heard. And I also heard this

518
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Speaker 3: from colleagues. It's like I'm the punching bag colin. I

519
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: get about ten calls a week from former colleagues of mine,

520
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: and all they do is screaming, yell at me about

521
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: can you believe this is happening. Then they're telling me stories,

522
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: and something's got to happen. There's got to be some

523
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: kind of regulation and for the good of the game

524
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: and good of these players, and yet the product on

525
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: the field collins unbelievable. But when I heard that, that's

526
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Speaker 3: as I have a hard time getting over what I read.

527
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Speaker 1: Oh, I want to go back one one final thing,

528
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Speaker 1: so I'll give you my analogy before we get to it.

529
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Speaker 1: That when you and I get on the road to drive,

530
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: there's a speed limit, but you and I know there's nuance,

531
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Speaker 1: and if it's fifty five and urban, you go fifty eight,

532
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: you're not getting a ticket. You also know that judges

533
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: in our judicial system it can be arbitrary. If you

534
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: come in with a smart alec grin on your face

535
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: and you're a wise acre and there was a real

536
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: serious crime, the judge can give you a longer sentence

537
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: because he didn't like you. You didn't think. So life

538
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: is nuanced and gray. It's not all black and white.

539
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I would not call a pass interference on Miami in

540
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Speaker 1: the end zone. You don't call him on Hail Mary's

541
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. In the NBA finals, you don't want

542
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: to championship decided at the free throw line. You got

543
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: a really foul a player. So I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: should be pass interference. We can show the play again.

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Speaker 1: I thought if it was in the second quarter, you

546
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Speaker 1: may get that call. I don't think you get that

547
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Speaker 1: in the final throw. Did it bother you?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

549
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: It does bother me, because of if it's a foul,

550
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: it's a foul. But I agree, I don't think you

551
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Speaker 3: make that call. I you know it has to be

552
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: so flagrant that you you you know you make that call.

553
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Speaker 4: But as we're watching it here.

554
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Speaker 3: You know, I dog gun It put his left hands

555
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: all over him calling. Oh yeah, I know, dog gun it.

556
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: You put me on the spot. You hate to have

557
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: the official have a hand in the final play. But

558
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: for the record, but it is past interference.

559
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Speaker 1: I think you get the call. Probably in the second quarter.

560
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Speaker 1: They would give you that call.

561
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Speaker 4: The left hands. The only thing that bothers me right there.

562
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it bothers everybody, I think except Miami. Yeah.

563
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Speaker 1: I mean it's again, I know everybody disagrees with me.

564
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: They're like that that's past interfew. Yeah, I know it is.

565
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Speaker 1: And I also know that Michael Jordan pushed off in

566
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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. I know he pushed off. You get

567
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Speaker 1: it in the second quarter. My take is if he

568
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: was grabbing the face mask or or you have to

569
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Speaker 1: call it, like right there, you're like, oh, that's that's probably.

570
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: Oh gosh calling. So you're saying, no, don't call it.

571
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Speaker 1: I I've watched Hail Mary's in the NFL. All they're

572
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: doing is banging into each other and boxing each other out,

573
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: and it's like we're we're not. I feel like when

574
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Speaker 1: you grab the face mask, if you grab it so

575
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: you'd ruin the vision, but you can. I mean, Belichick

576
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: was great at this. You know, Belichick, depending on the

577
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: color of the jerseys, would have his guys who are

578
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: like white gloves or darker gloves, because his takeaway is

579
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Speaker 1: you get to the corners of end zones where that's

580
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: not great. You know, they can't necessarily, officials don't have

581
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Speaker 1: the greatest view. You would like a white glove and

582
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: a white jersey. You're grabbing and pushing it. There's a

583
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of manipulation going on in the secondary. I mean,

584
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: you see these targeting calls. I don't like those targeting

585
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: calls at all. I didn't think that Miami kids should

586
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: have been thrown out, but I think at that time

587
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: in the game, you do probably get thrown out.

588
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: All right, I'm fighting a call and throw the flag, man,

589
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: that's p.

590
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Speaker 1: I look at that, all right.

591
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: Get people something to talk about. Throw the damn flag.

592
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: I didn't feel it that way last night because I

593
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: didn't watched it fifteen times in a row.

594
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Speaker 1: All right, Irvan, it's great seeing you great scenior calling.

595
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, like listen, oh, miss fans they're like urban,

596
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: They're like, ah, come on, that is I'm not saying

597
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: it's not interference. I'm saying I wouldn't call it. Then

598
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: it's all I ever noticed this in the morning, during

599
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: rush hour traffic, nobody's getting a speeding ticket. At two

600
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: in the afternoon in your town, when nobody's on the freeway,

601
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Speaker 1: you give a speeding ticket for the same speed. You're

602
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: not gonna jam up all the traffic in morning traffic.

603
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Everybody's going to work for guy, even if they're going

604
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: fifteen miles. You're not screwing up Atlanta traffic, right, You're not.

605
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: But at two in the afternoon, if somebody's doing that,

606
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: then is a cop you pull him over, You say, bro,

607
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: can't bob and weave inside and no outside of cars.

608
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Speaker 6: Can you imagine the outrage if they had thrown a

609
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: flag and Ole miscored on the next play, that would

610
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 6: have been more controversial than Miami Ohio State what twenty

611
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Speaker 6: some odd years ago? Remember the past interference? You know,

612
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Speaker 6: you just you can't throw the flag. I mean if

613
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Speaker 6: he blatantly tackled.

614
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 7: Him, he was just holding him. That was going on,

615
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 7: That's going on everywhere.

616
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, I think it's I think I did,

617
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: like Irban app fine, after fifteen views that changed my mind.

618
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Speaker 1: Uh, it was just hiliriously fun. I'll say this. I

619
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Speaker 1: thought Miami was the best team. I thought they should

620
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Speaker 1: have won convincingly, but the game ended up at the

621
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Speaker 1: end kind of looking like old Miss games where it's

622
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Speaker 1: just Trinidad and Chandler's out there swinging it.

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Speaker 7: What is You think he could be a pro?

624
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Speaker 1: Or is he just a guy? Could draft him like

625
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Speaker 1: fifth six or I would draft him in the fifth

626
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Speaker 1: round if he was available. I'd just want him on

627
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Speaker 1: my roster. I think he's a great kid. I like

628
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: his spirit, I like his movement. I think he has

629
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Speaker 1: a I don't think he has a I think he

630
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Speaker 1: has a good enough arm. I just think that kid

631
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Speaker 1: i'd like in my locker room.

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Speaker 6: Could he be like your number two quarterback? Like a

633
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 6: if I Lawler Malik Willis back up.

634
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: If I said to you, Tyrod Taylor with way better mobility,

635
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: like you're getting a grown up. And every time you

636
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: listen to the kid, he's a grown up. He's a

637
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: team guy. He's a wonderful guy. I think he plays

638
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: on Sunday.

639
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, he carried Farris State to

640
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: a national Championship and then goes to Ole Miss and

641
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 6: nearly takes them.

642
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: To the national champ Sometimes you can't overthink the room

643
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: when you watch the ball come out of his hands.

644
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: When you watch it, it's got a lot of it's

645
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: got some jukes, makes place and makes a bunch of

646
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: plays that sounds goofy, but like there's value in this.

647
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: He seems like a great kid. I like his story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had to endure fairest state. I mean fairrist state,

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Speaker 1: like in Michigan. You go to Michigan or Michigan State

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Speaker 1: or Central Michigan or Western Michigan, and when you run

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Speaker 1: out of options, you go to you go there. Nobody

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Speaker 1: wanted this guy coming out of high That just seems

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Speaker 1: to me when I watch him, the mobility is obvious.

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Speaker 1: The ball seems to come out like fast. There's a

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Speaker 1: real energy to his ball. And so I draft him. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's the hurd