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Speaker 2: We've got the trivia game that resumes at midnight, Round five.

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Speaker 2: We've got the stories. We cover it all. But for me,

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Speaker 2: I want to begin with the story this week that

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Speaker 2: stuck out the most then stuck in my crawl, having

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Speaker 2: to do with well it rhymes with Ericbenemy and I'm

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Speaker 2: about to have the enemies back in a big way.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers fans, and you're listening on five seventy am and

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, I know you remember the eighty eight Dodgers

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Speaker 2: and they want it all, perhaps one of the more

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Speaker 2: storied teams in the entire Dodgers' history, thanks to what

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Speaker 2: Kirk Gibson did. It all started in spring training when

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Speaker 2: Jesse Rosco decided to pull a prank and pull a

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Speaker 2: little lampblack and Gibbe's in the bill of his cap

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Speaker 2: and we put his cap on. He had black all

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Speaker 2: over his face and everybody's laughing, and Gibby doesn't know

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Speaker 2: what's going on. And finally someone held a mirrorup to

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Speaker 2: him and told him and Gibb you lost his mind.

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Speaker 2: He looked at all of him and said, you're all

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Speaker 2: a bunch of clowns. No wonder you don't want a

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Speaker 2: damn thing here, and now wanted to have him one

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Speaker 2: in seven years. Your head's not in the right spot.

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Speaker 2: It changes now. He set a tone. He set a tone,

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Speaker 2: and the Dodgers won the World Series that year, obviously

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Speaker 2: the famous hit bat off of Dennis Eckersley. You know,

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Speaker 2: in case you haven't noticed, football is an emotional, violent game.

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Speaker 2: In case you haven't noticed, what worked with the Washington

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Speaker 2: What the hell do you want to call him? Redskins

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Speaker 2: football team commanders? It didn't work last year. What worked

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Speaker 2: last year didn't work last year, matter of fact, hasn't

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Speaker 2: worked in seven years. That offense is not ranked above

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Speaker 2: twentieth in points or yards per game in seven years.

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Speaker 2: You know when Vince Lombardi was hired by Curly lambole

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Speaker 2: to take over the last place Green Bay Packers many

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Speaker 2: a year ago, Curly Lambeo called him in after the

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Speaker 2: first practice and said, I need an evaluation. What's wrong

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Speaker 2: with my team? He says, it's real simple. You got

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Speaker 2: fifty three guys on the roster in forty six can't

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Speaker 2: play football? Lombardy fixed. It sounds to me like Eric

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Speaker 2: the Enemy is trying to change the culture. He's bringing

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Speaker 2: an attitude, He's making an attitude adjustment. He's interjecting things like,

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Speaker 2: you know, accountability and pride and work ethic and here's

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Speaker 2: where I throw the flag to imply, well, this might

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Speaker 2: be the reason Letter Banavie is not getting a head

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Speaker 2: coaching jobs. People that make statements like that, I guarantee

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Speaker 2: you you don't have as many connections in the NFL

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Speaker 2: as I do. I've had some good conversations a long

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Speaker 2: time with people, and you know why b enemy hasn't

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Speaker 2: gotten a job yet? Only be enemy knows. You don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I want to harken back to a great conversation

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Speaker 2: I had with a guy by the name of Tony

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Speaker 2: Dungee in January of two thousand and four in Kansas

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Speaker 2: City when Dungee's colts were in town to play the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs in the playoffs. And I was there that day

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Speaker 2: and I asked for and got access. I've always said

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Speaker 2: when I grow up, I want to be Tony Dungee's

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Speaker 2: one of the most elegant human beings delivered beet in

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Speaker 2: your life. We struck up a conversation and it came

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Speaker 2: up because in the nineties, as an assistant with Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: Tony Dungee was the Eric Enemy of the nineties. Kept

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Speaker 2: getting interviews, couldn't get jobs. People had their reasons, they

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Speaker 2: didn't know. I'll never forget what Tony Dungee told me.

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Speaker 2: He said, you know, I was close to getting two jobs.

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Speaker 2: Actually I was about to get two jobs. And as

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Speaker 2: a final check, the box the owner called me in

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Speaker 2: to have a conversation. In both cases, he said, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I just need to know something. Football is a violent,

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Speaker 2: emotional game. I know you're your demeanor. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: need you and now and then to raise a little hell,

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Speaker 2: drop a few f bombs, scream and yell, throw some chairs,

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Speaker 2: just don't know if you can do that, and I

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Speaker 2: think you have to have that gear if you're going

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Speaker 2: to coach in the NFL. Tony Dungee, being the elegant,

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Speaker 2: stoic man he is, looked at each owner and said,

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Speaker 2: I can't do that. First of all, it's not my nature.

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Speaker 2: Second of all, I don't really even think that works.

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Speaker 2: him and said, Tony, thanks for your candor. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have to pass. They were ready to

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Speaker 2: hire Tony Dungee, but because he was not willing to

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Speaker 2: do what Eric Bietaby does because that's his style, he

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Speaker 2: didn't get two jobs. Interestingly enough, finally Tampa Bay and

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Blazer comes along and they have the same identical conversation.

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Speaker 2: Tony gives the identical answer, I can't do that. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it works. It's not my nature, and if

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Speaker 2: I were to try that, it would perre disingenuous laser thought,

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Speaker 2: leaned back in his chair says, you know what, Tony,

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Speaker 2: You've turned me around. I understand. See all styles work

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Speaker 2: and all styles don't work. Believe me, the strong silent

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Speaker 2: type works as well. Football is a violent, emotional game,

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Speaker 2: even on the high school level. She shar remember of

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Speaker 2: high school coach is yelling at me, yelling at us.

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Speaker 2: Had a coach looing over to me once says son,

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Speaker 2: you know I'm so hard on you. Why coach, Because

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Speaker 2: someday when your wife leaves you for the drummer and

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Speaker 2: the band, and the band foe closes on your house,

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Speaker 2: you'll be able to handle it. I'm seventeen years old

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking up and go, coach, what's foreclothes mean?

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Speaker 2: Took a couple decades later. I know what he meant.

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Speaker 2: Don't people get it? Beone me has said it. There's

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Speaker 2: no mystery here. He said quote, I'm always going to

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Speaker 2: be loud, I'm always going to be vocal. I'm always

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Speaker 2: going to demand from my leaders. And it seemed to

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Speaker 2: work in Kanasdas City. He can't tell me he didn't

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Speaker 2: have nothing to do with Kansas City success. I just

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Speaker 2: went sparky Anderson double negative there. B Enemy went on

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Speaker 2: to say, qote, If I ain't doing my job, my

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Speaker 2: sure I'm getting our guys to do what I'm expecting

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Speaker 2: them to do. Remember, Washington hired the Ennemy this offseason.

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Speaker 2: You know, ten years in Kansas City and he including

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Speaker 2: the last five as the OC when they won two

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Ron Rivera hired the Enemy specifically to inject

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Speaker 2: a spark into the offense that again has ranked in

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Speaker 2: the bottom third on yards and points in the last

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Speaker 2: seven years. By the way, it's also a critical year

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Speaker 2: for Ron Rivera. He's entering his fourth season and there's

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Speaker 2: no Daniel Snyder there anymore. He was not hired by

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Speaker 2: Josh Harris. Josh Harris is the new one. Ow So

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Speaker 2: Benemy joins the staff by the reputation of being intense,

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Speaker 2: being demanding. His approach has been evident during the spring

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Speaker 2: and summer practices. And I understand I'm not a practice.

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Speaker 2: He can be heard more than any other coach, whether

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Speaker 2: he's correcting a player, praising a player, and I, okay,

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Speaker 2: some Commanders players concerned by his intensity, and maybe they'll

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Speaker 2: have a little complaint. I don't like that one bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that one bit. The Enemy is who

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Speaker 2: he is. He says, I want our guys to understand

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Speaker 2: we don't take anything for granted. You see me pull

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Speaker 2: players have long discussions, so we're always on the same page.

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Speaker 2: Eric b Enemy he was talking to the third person.

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Speaker 2: Eric Beenemy is who he is. Eric Banemy knows how

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Speaker 2: to adapt and adjust. Eric Bnemy's a tough, hard nosed coach,

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Speaker 2: but also understand quote I'm going to be the biggest

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Speaker 2: and harshest critic, but also their number one fan. I

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Speaker 2: got their back all the time. So if some players

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Speaker 2: were a little concerned with how hard the enemy was

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Speaker 2: riding them, maybe that's what they need. And I know

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Speaker 2: Bienemy himself said he might be a little concerned about

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Speaker 2: how some players would handle his approach. Said I had

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Speaker 2: a number of guys come to me and say, I

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Speaker 2: got to just go talk to him. I understand what

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Speaker 2: he's trying to get across, and they go talk to him.

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Speaker 2: But it's enlightening. So it's an adjustment, okay. And let's

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Speaker 2: not also forget the enemy replaced the guy by the

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Speaker 2: name of Scott Turner was very low key and he

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Speaker 2: was also fired. And by the way, the players complained

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Speaker 2: about the offense under Scott Turner as well. So younger

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Speaker 2: players perhaps are coming out of programs that didn't deal

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Speaker 2: with coaches in intensity. Well, maybe that's what they Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what they're missing. And I'm not talking about somebody

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Speaker 2: you know that's yelling indiscriminately, somebody that doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: cred somebody that doesn't have the pedigree. I think the

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Speaker 2: enemy has those things right. So the long and short

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Speaker 2: of it is, you have to sort of appreciate Eric

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Speaker 2: the Enemy. He's upfront and eye honest. I do think

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Speaker 2: he cares, and he's a communicator. You're always gonna know

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Speaker 2: where you stand with Eric the Enemy. And I think

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Speaker 2: if you keep on doing what you've been doing, are

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Speaker 2: you not gonna keep on getting what you've been getting.

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Speaker 2: So the enemy, at the end of the day might

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Speaker 2: after the new year. Let's let the season play out,

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Speaker 2: Let's let the results speak for themselves. But for me,

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it plays out, but obviously what the

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Speaker 4: You're a great Bernie.

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Speaker 5: Good Friday night to you and everybody out there, and

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Speaker 4: It's starting to get fun again.

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Speaker 2: It is. And before I dive into the Raiders, which

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Speaker 2: You never wavered from the fact that it was likely

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Speaker 5: You know it was Is that the grand prize of

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Speaker 5: That, all we heard was the crazy serious, not crazy

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Speaker 4: I'm at the end of August, first.

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Speaker 5: Observed, no question, and there have been some new wrinkles

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Speaker 4: But I think that that's why the Raiders weren't overly worried.

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Speaker 4: There's still a lot of unknowns, Berdie.

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Speaker 2: Couple of Raiders who might be household names as the

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Speaker 2: You know, Kevin, I always enjoyed the preseason when I

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Speaker 5: So that's certainly a battle. The Mumford ilumin or Parker

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Speaker 2: You know. I always say every day a new star

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Speaker 2: Finally, last thing we fingers crossed. I've always been a

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Speaker 5: has a long history with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: And had some pretty good success.

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Speaker 5: I would say, with him through the years. Not saying

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Speaker 5: that Aidan O'Connell was Tom Brady by any stretch of

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Speaker 5: the imagination. However, he's another one that you know, as

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Speaker 5: they go through this process of training camp. Uh, they're

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Speaker 5: gonna keep an eye on his progress and somebody that

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Speaker 5: they think could maybe even slide into the number two

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Speaker 5: at some point you know during the season if he's

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Speaker 5: able to do that.

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Speaker 4: So there's some.

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Speaker 5: Excitement on on what he can do.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, with coming out of it.

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Speaker 5: I think it was a fourth round pick, so right

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Speaker 5: fourth to go from a walk on a Purdue. I

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Speaker 5: think he was seventh on the depth chart when he

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Speaker 5: started and worked his way into a starter. H And

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Speaker 5: you know, he's just he's a grinder. He's somebody's just

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Speaker 5: going to go in there and grind until he.

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Speaker 4: Gets the job done.

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Speaker 5: And and that's exactly the type of player that the

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Speaker 5: Raiders are looking for.

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Speaker 2: I love stories like that. Of course. I was a

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Speaker 2: WTK and ann Arburn Tom Brady was a freshman seventh

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Speaker 2: on the depth chart. So we shall see what we

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Speaker 2: shall see. Kevin, great stuff. As always, We'll get you

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Speaker 2: on again soon.

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Speaker 4: Always a pleasure. Thank you, Berdie, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin. That's Kevin Bollinger, Sports director Fox five

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. You're our local Fox affiliate. Coming up some

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Speaker 2: early observations on the preseason so far from this Keen Observer.

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Speaker 2: But first let's go back to our guy, Kevin Figures

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Speaker 2: with the latest.

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Speaker 6: All right, Bernie early morning doubleheader at the quarterfinals of

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Speaker 6: the Women's World Cup, which you can watch on Fox

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Speaker 6: this morning. At the top of the hour, France will

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Speaker 6: take on Australia, while at six thirty Eastern time, I

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Speaker 6: left Columbia taking on England. In baseball, Friday, not the

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Speaker 6: Dodgers picked up their sixth straight win, a six to

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Speaker 6: one victory over Colorado, their lead in the National League

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Speaker 6: West now up to seven and a half games over

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Speaker 6: the Giants at San Francisco lost at home to Texas

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Speaker 6: two to one. Arizona going in the wrong direction in

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Speaker 6: the NL West picture, they've lost nine games in a row.

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Speaker 6: After a ten to five drubbing at the hands of

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Speaker 6: the Padres Julio are Rigaz, a home run for Seattle

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Speaker 6: and a victory over Baltimore. Eight straight wins there for

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Speaker 6: the Mariners, Houston blast at the Angels eleven to three.

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Speaker 6: You had victories for the Reds, Cubs, and Atlanta. In

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Speaker 6: preseason football, Russell Wilson played much of the first half

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Speaker 6: for Denver seven to thirteen, passing ninety three yards and

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Speaker 6: a touchdown pass to Jerry Judy. Cardinals did beat the Broncos,

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Speaker 6: they were eighteen to seventeens. Baker Mayfield eight of nine

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Speaker 6: passing with a touchdown pass for Tampa Bay and a

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Speaker 6: loss to Pittsburgh back to Bernie Freddo.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Kevin. So the preseason is here. It's

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Speaker 2: a chance to confirm what you think you believe, sort of.

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Speaker 2: You can't take anything away from preseason. I promise you

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Speaker 2: that I've joked about it. I tweeted it out last

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Speaker 2: year with my credential, I covered the greatest four to

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Speaker 2: zero preseason team of all time. The eight Detroit Lions

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Speaker 2: scored eighty points, only allowed their opponents thirty two, and

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Speaker 2: then proceeded to go one sixteen in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: By that Digress observations, the Jordan Love era began with

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. Started out was a little late

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Speaker 2: in his timing on a goal route to Romeo Doves,

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Speaker 2: allowed the centerfielder to come over and swatted away, then

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Speaker 2: missed the crossing route to the tight end badly. But

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Speaker 2: then he settled in seven for ten against the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: he had won beautifully throwing touchdown to Romeo Dobbs, and

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Speaker 2: he was three for three in the red zone, and

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Speaker 2: that matters. You want to judge a quarterback. You look

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Speaker 2: at the red zone, you look at third down, you

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Speaker 2: look at the fourth quarter. So early signs you'll take it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure how Jordan Loves gonna be, but

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Speaker 2: I think Green Bay's got a very good roster, so

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Speaker 2: something to watch at least tonight. You don't go overboard

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Speaker 2: on one preseason performance. Love wasn't perfect, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: he missed badly on the throat of Loop Musgrave and

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Speaker 2: they had some drive stall. But here he is. He's

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Speaker 2: twenty four. It's time to take advantage of the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: He's been good. Given fingers crossed in Packer land. We

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Speaker 2: shall see, But for tonight, maybe they'll sleep a little better.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterback competitions, the Tampa Bay Bucks the entered

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Speaker 2: Friday's preseason game against Pittsburgh to try to get a

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Speaker 2: differentiation between Baker Mayfield, who's the presumptive excuse me, favorite

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Speaker 2: to you know, get the starting gig. It's not a given,

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Speaker 2: it's not a given. It's been reported that no decision

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Speaker 2: has been made by the higher ups, and Kyle Trask

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Speaker 2: looks progressively better. Look I don't know. Baker Mayfield to

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Speaker 2: me is a guy who's really just kind of a

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Speaker 2: lightning round, maybe not as much as he used to be. Remember,

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Speaker 2: he took over a team in Cleveland that was one

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Speaker 2: and thirty one the prior two years and got to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs or third year, had Kansas City beating the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, defense couldn't hold it, and even beat Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: in a playoff game the following year. Mayfield completed a

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Speaker 2: lot but one pass. But most of us throws tonight

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Speaker 2: were checked downs. Maybe they're not letting them do a lot,

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Speaker 2: had a couple solid rollouts, had a nice touchdown pass

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Speaker 2: to Trey Palmer, and so the other thing about preseason,

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Speaker 2: you see a lot of vanilla defenses. You see a

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Speaker 2: lot of vanilla offenses, and Kyle Trask when he got in,

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Speaker 2: he was always in tough positions in terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: they're starting spots on the field. First pass you threw

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Speaker 2: was a nice twenty three yard completion to David Moore,

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Speaker 2: but then he had a negative run and he had

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Speaker 2: a quick pass that put you know he was in

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Speaker 2: a bad position, forced the ball into coverage on third

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Speaker 2: nineteen through a pick. All right, So I think Baker

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Speaker 2: Mayfield will win the job. And I think what will

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Speaker 2: happen is you'll see Trask start the Bucks second game.

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Speaker 2: And Tampa Bay's got a new court offensive cordinator Dave Canalis,

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Speaker 2: so he's supposed to open up the offense a little

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Speaker 2: more as preseason goes on. No decisions in Tampa Bay

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Speaker 2: as of tonight, but I will say this, I still

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Speaker 2: think Baker Mayfield will win that job. Much was made

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Speaker 2: at Jamison Williams for lots of reasons. He was an

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Speaker 2: incredible speeds terra out Obama Lions drafted him twelfth overall

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Speaker 2: last year. Had a very dubious start. First, he tears

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Speaker 2: his ACL, unfortunately in the championship game. They still drafted

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Speaker 2: him twelve. Didn't get on the field till late you know,

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Speaker 2: k But now he's eighteen months removed the knee injury.

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Speaker 2: Remember he's suspended for six games. Had a bad tonight,

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Speaker 2: but the Lion's coaching staff is still praising him. Dan

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Speaker 2: Campbell just wants him to grind through this. He did

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Speaker 2: make a nice catch on one handed catch on a

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Speaker 2: two point conversion. But the knock on Jamison Williams so

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Speaker 2: far is he's not consistent. He's got to be dependable.

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Speaker 2: They need him to be a dependable downfield threat to

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Speaker 2: stretch that you know, stretch the defense, take the top

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Speaker 2: off the defense, stretch the field. He can be that player,

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Speaker 2: but he needs a lot of refinement. So there's ways

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Speaker 2: to go now. Again, you can't take a hell of

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Speaker 2: a lot out of the preseason. But Cleveland's played two

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Speaker 2: games and Jim Schwartz, the new defensive coordinator of the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, all of a sudden that Brown's defense has

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Speaker 2: a little bit of swagger now tonight. Even you know,

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Speaker 2: when the starters were in they look pretty good against

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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders, and people are talking about Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: probably possibly being a perennial candidate for the Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year, and you know, I would just say this.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the Browns also signed a defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle in the offseason, Dalvin Tomlinson. Gave him fifty seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars. What he does, he upgrades their point of attack,

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Speaker 2: and so Cleveland has a very nice pass rush and

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Speaker 2: a very nice pass rush rotation, and as a matter

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Speaker 2: of fact, Washington felt that they got pushed around the

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Speaker 2: first drive. Their first drive, they got called for holding

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Speaker 2: stround out of sack. All of a sudden, they're in

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Speaker 2: third and thirty and the very next play you get

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Speaker 2: a safety when as a Darius Smith forced a holding

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Speaker 2: call in the end zone. Cleveland's defense genuinely has swagger.

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Speaker 2: But this is what Schwartz does. He did this in

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Speaker 2: Detroit too. Remember he almost got into a fight with

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh on the sign lines. This is many years

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Speaker 2: ago his back, like twenty twelve. But the point of

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Speaker 2: the matter is is that Schwartz is going to have

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Speaker 2: a scheme that's designed to attack the opposing quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: Cleveland actually has a personnel to do that, and they've

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Speaker 2: shown that in the preseason. So just a quick takeaway. Finally,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it was a relatively uninspired start to

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Speaker 2: the Sean Payton tenures. The Denver Broncos head coach now

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Speaker 2: it in and out an upnoe Friday night because Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson threw a twenty one yard touchdown pass to Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 2: But prior to that, the whole team looked like Judge Judy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they really needed to make a play, and

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Speaker 2: they did, and that, you know, sort of prevented Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton's debut Friday Night from being completely ruined. So in

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Speaker 2: the preseason, you really hope the starting units perform, and

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Speaker 2: that's what matters. The Browns started to check that the

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Speaker 2: Broncos starting unit looked very lethargic. They looked very mistake

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Speaker 2: prone and frankly, not much of an upgrade over last

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Speaker 2: year's group if you look at the first twenty plays

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Speaker 2: of the game up until that point, I got to

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Speaker 2: tell you if Sean Payton had to be significantly disappointed

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Speaker 2: some tip passes, there was some consistent pressure applied by Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy looked like Judge Judy on one terrible drop

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Speaker 2: he made on a third down play. And then there

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Speaker 2: were a couple of miss field goals, so the Broncos

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Speaker 2: couldn't cash in any points. And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you're saying to myself, my goodness, is this dejevu all

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Speaker 2: over again? Yogi? So I mean, obviously Peyton wanted to

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Speaker 2: send a message. He had his starters play well into

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Speaker 2: the second quarter, and they'd already had four drives in

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Speaker 2: the first quarter, and he made a played well into

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Speaker 2: the second quarter. And you know, Peyton wants to do

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Speaker 2: everything in the opposite. Last year, he implied and stated

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Speaker 2: there were certain instances that the previous staff was incompetent.

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Speaker 2: Things would be different under his watch. And look, Peyton's

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Speaker 2: got a resume, man, He's got a pedigree, make no

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Speaker 2: mistake about that. He's won a Super Bowl, He's had

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Speaker 2: winning records. No one can argue with. His track record

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Speaker 2: has to Bill Parcell's disciple. But Peyton's going to be

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Speaker 2: under a microscope this year. He put himself under that microscope. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: he was in it prior to that, simply because you

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Speaker 2: know he's Sean Payton, and he went to the highest bidder.

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Speaker 2: And make no mistake, you know what Denver had to

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Speaker 2: get up to get to get Sean Payton and Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson seven draft picks, including three first rounders and three

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Speaker 2: second rounders. They had to guarantee one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: one million to Wilson. And I understand Peyton's slated to

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Speaker 2: make somewhere around twenty million this year, so this is

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Speaker 2: not a chump change. And obviously the expectations in Denver

634
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Speaker 2: are going to be high, and save for that twenty

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Speaker 2: one yard touchdown pass, I would say the Broncos looked

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Speaker 2: a little flat last night. But as I have said,

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Speaker 2: and I will repeat, you don't take much away from

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Speaker 2: the preseason. You take nothing away from the preseason, but

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Speaker 2: you still can't agnore the fact that some of the

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Speaker 2: same issues that plagued Denver presenting themselves again Friday night.

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Speaker 2: I guess you should have expected, maybe you didn't expect

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Speaker 2: a smooth transition, but there so far has not been

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Speaker 2: a smooth transition. At the same time, I would say

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Speaker 2: again I want to repeat that when you reiterate the

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Speaker 2: Good buddy, Bill Crackman Krackenberger. He'll be on with me

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Speaker 2: that Michelson allegedly placed more than a billion dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of sports bets in the last thirty years. And he's

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Speaker 2: got details from twenty to ten to twenty fourteen. According

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Speaker 2: to the book, this is unreal. So he bet one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand to win one hundred thousand, that's

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Speaker 2: the Big ten, one hundred and fifteen times. He bet

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty eight times. In the year twenty eleven,

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Speaker 2: three major league bets in a single day. According to

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Speaker 2: this memoir by Billy Walters, Phil Mickelson wagered a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars on sports over the last three decades. Now, make

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Speaker 2: no mistake, you know he's and I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: I'll save that. The book goes on to say that

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Speaker 2: Michelson lost nearly one hundred million gambling average nine bets

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Speaker 2: per day, made forty three bets in a day, tried

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Speaker 2: to bet the Ryder Cup he was playing in. Look,

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Speaker 2: Mickelson has the money. I am not second guessing him.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just interesting because when you look at

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously be beneath the exterior, there's a guy

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Speaker 2: interesting as his story on unravels, and we'll we'll cover it.

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Speaker 2: But if you want the tone and tenor listen to

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Speaker 2: what Rory McElroy said, who's ever the liv antagonist? He

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Speaker 2: couldn't resist taking a shot at Phil because and he

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Speaker 2: was asked at a press conference how he felt about

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Speaker 2: the news. He said, quote, well, at least Michelson can

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Speaker 2: be a part of it. Shots fired again. Phil Micholson

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Speaker 2: he's still probably got about nine hundred million left over,

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Speaker 2: We'd like to get a couple new ones every week.

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Speaker 2: If you'll have five seconds to answer. If you don't,

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Speaker 2: it could be preseason football. Shaye will be handling that.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to live in the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: The game that Ethan created, Bernie's Backcard Bunkin bets. Here

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Speaker 2: we go round five, and so without further ado, my man, Shay,

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Speaker 2: take it away.

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Speaker 1: We got questions, we got crisis.

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Speaker 7: Who will come out on top?

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Speaker 2: We're calling on you.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what you got. It's gain time, it's showtime.

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Speaker 1: It's Bernie's backyard bucks and bats.

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Speaker 2: All right, Shay, I guess if I see my eyes,

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Speaker 2: don't deceive me, our leadoff caller, that mat is our

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Speaker 2: defending champ, Poppy from.

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Speaker 8: San Diego, Yes, it is. What's up, Poppy?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 9: Guy?

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Speaker 2: All right? How are you doing? Poppy?

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Speaker 9: They're good, beautiful day here in San Diego, and I'm

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Speaker 9: glad that think he positive one today, hot Bernie.

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Speaker 2: After losing four in a row. That's what they do

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Speaker 2: many they win one out of five, man, that's what

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 8: All right, Poppy, all right, let's get into it.

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Speaker 10: Who was the last pitcher to throw a solo no

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Speaker 10: hitter and a home debut with an MLB team?

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Speaker 9: Ooh, I know that happened a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 2: I know it.

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Speaker 9: True picture.

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Speaker 8: Opening day and a home debut, well, home.

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Speaker 2: Debut, home debut, Okay, home debut.

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Speaker 9: Loland Ryan with the Dingers.

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Speaker 8: So you were right, it did happen a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well it's Michael Lorenz. And if you're talking about right, he.

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Speaker 10: Was wrong, but he was right saying it was a

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Speaker 10: couple of days.

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Speaker 2: What what what? What's the correct dame?

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Speaker 8: It was Michael Lorenz?

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Speaker 2: And you're right, you're okay? All right, all right, Poppy,

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Speaker 2: we move along. What's what's our bet?

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Speaker 10: So the Chargers are taking on the Rams at six

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Speaker 10: pm Pacific Standard time. The points total is set at

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Speaker 10: thirty three. Are you taking the over or the under?

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's gonna be a game, sir.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say it's gonna be a little scoring game.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to under.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with Poppy. I think points

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Speaker 2: are gonna be the premium. A lot of the offensive

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Speaker 2: starters are not gonna play. And I know the Rams

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Speaker 2: want to make a statement on defense because people are

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Speaker 2: picking on them. This this feels like a you know,

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Speaker 2: seventeen to thirteen cat game. So I'll go under as well,

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Speaker 2: Poppy thang Ernie, that's good luck, good luck, good luck, Poppy. Poppy,

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Speaker 2: of course, are defending champ folks. All right, Shade, we

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Speaker 2: got Brandon from Hawaii next.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that is correct.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing Brandon?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Bernie hanging in there.

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Speaker 2: I hope everything's all right. Prayers are the full MAUI, oh,

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Speaker 2: no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 10: So who did the US women's national team get eliminated

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Speaker 10: by in the FIFA World Cup this.

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Speaker 1: Year, Dedilands?

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Speaker 2: I believe it was Sweden. Sweden.

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Speaker 10: So the forty nine ers are taking on the Raiders

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Speaker 10: on Sunday at one on one pm Pacific Standard time.

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Speaker 10: The over under on points is set at thirty six.

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Speaker 10: What do you guys take?

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Speaker 11: I'll take the under thirty six.

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see offense in this game, and

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see the Raiders open it up,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're gonna see Well, let's just put

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Speaker 2: it this way. Short answer. I think you're gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go over in this game. Good luck, Good luck Brandon, Okay,

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Speaker 2: thanks burning, thank you, Okay, Shay. We got Kurt from

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Speaker 2: San Clementy.

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Speaker 8: Correct, that is correct. How you doing, Kurt?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 4: You guys, how's it going?

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Speaker 5: It's uh from San Clementy lives, Spanish village by the Sea,

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Speaker 5: home of champions and cloths.

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Speaker 2: Nicely done, Kurt, are you running from mayor? You got

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Speaker 2: my vote?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go.

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Speaker 10: Chay So, which US women's national team player recently announced

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Speaker 10: their retirement from the team.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was a Maked Repuino, wasn't it?

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Speaker 8: That is correct?

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Speaker 2: Alrighty.

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Speaker 10: So the Cubs are taking on the Blue Jays today.

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Speaker 10: The Cubs pitcher is Justin Steele, while the blue Jays

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Speaker 10: pitcher is Chris Bassett. The line on runs score is

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Speaker 10: set at eight and a half. Are you guys taking

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Speaker 10: the over or the under?

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Speaker 4: I am going with the.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's a noon game. You get a couple of pretty

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Speaker 2: good pitchers with good eras. But she's the Blue GE's

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Speaker 2: have been hitting the hell out of the ball lately.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The totals eight and a half.

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Speaker 8: The total is eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with you over. But

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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. I'm not I'm not crazy about it,

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Speaker 2: but I'll go with you over. But good luck.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Bertie, good luck to you too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. All right. Dave from Phoenix, who emerged mid

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Speaker 2: season in our first round, really been solid at trivia.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for Dave? Shay?

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Speaker 8: How you doing, Dave?

862
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 10: All right, so we got the Carolina Panthers are playing

863
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 10: the New York Jets letter today, which rookie QB is

864
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 10: starting for the Panthers today?

865
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 6: Oh?

866
00:45:51,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 9: That would be the guy from Alabama. Oh uh, I run?

867
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 5: What is his name?

868
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Boy? You were so close? It's Bryce Young from Modern

869
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: Down High School in Alabama.

870
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 8: Boy, right, yeah, if you were right there.

871
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Mark's a good guy. He was generous before going to

872
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: the buzzer. You had it, but almost, But I don't

873
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: know if can the judges allow that he didn't have

874
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: the name?

875
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 8: Well, we'll allow it. Well, allowed that.

876
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: Okay, you're the boss, Jay will allow it. The boss.

877
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 10: We're gonna go with that same game. For the bet,

878
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 10: the over under for points is set at thirty seven.

879
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 10: What are you guys taking again, it's the Panthers versus

880
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 10: the Jets.

881
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 9: Oh seven, that's I'll pick be under.

882
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: That's a good call, Dave. I can tell you there's

883
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: history there. For whatever reason, in the history of preseason

884
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: games in the last ten years, whenever the total is

885
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: thirty seven have gone under sixty one percent of the time.

886
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: Those are just the facts. All right, I'm gonna go

887
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: with the ender two. Dave.

888
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 9: Hey, Bernie, I got a question. You know a lot

889
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 9: of people there in Vegas. Do you know a guy

890
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 9: who hosted a lot of sports gambling shows named John Kelly?

891
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that name. I don't know that name.

892
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 9: What he did it for a lot of years. I'm

893
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 9: not sure where he is now if he's.

894
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: Still doing it. Was it before twenty ten?

895
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

896
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think he did maybe at the start

897
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 9: ask for a while and then a couple of places.

898
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, the startups line was famous in the early nineties.

899
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, not since I've lived here in twenty ten.

900
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Have I heard of him? Well, thanks for checking in, buddy, Yeah, ye.

901
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 8: All right.

902
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 10: We got Nathan calling in from Orlando. Nathan, how you doing, Nathan?

903
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm well good even good evening, sir, How are you?

904
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm good?

905
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: All right? What have we got? Shay?

906
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 10: So, after the conclusion of the twenty twenty three Women's

907
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 10: FIFA World Cup, when will the Women's FIFA World Cup take.

908
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 5: Place twenty twenty seven?

909
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: Outstanding? Nicely job and I believe it'll be in South Africa,

910
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: Cape Town, South Africa. But yeah, good job. Twenty twenty seven.

911
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 10: So England is taking on Columbia in the Women's FIFA

912
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 10: World Cup later today at three point thirty am Pacific

913
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 10: Standard time. Be over under on goals scored is one

914
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 10: and a half. Are you guys taking the over or

915
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 10: the under in this game?

916
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm going under.

917
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over. I think I think England almost

918
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: said New England, Old England. I think Old England beats

919
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: him to nothing. We lost, Nick, huh, thank you, Bernie,

920
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: all right, thanks Nathan, good job, all right, nice job

921
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: tonight's Shay and good luck to all the callers. And

922
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: I know Shade did a great job sitting in for Ethan.

923
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: We'll have the standings, I guess next week. When when

924
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: does Ethan return?

925
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 4: Shake?

926
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Can you enlighten us on that?

927
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 10: So, Hugh, I was actually at the airport right now.

928
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 10: He'll be back to tomorrow nights, he'll be back in

929
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 10: the States, but he'll hopefully have the results up by Wednesday.

930
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, great, So good job in his stead, Good job

931
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: Mark and the game. The game rolls on. And just

932
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: making sure there are no more straggler callers. I want

933
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: to make sure no one gets shut out here.

934
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, there's no one. We lost.

935
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: We lost Nick, okay, all good. Appreciate everybody checking in,

936
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: and of course next Friday at midnight would be back

937
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: for Round six. Hopefully Ethan will have the standings this

938
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: week because I know people like to see those, so

939
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: he'll have a couple weeks to catch up on Shaye.

940
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: Good job, buddy, We are off and running. Coming up.

941
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: There was a little Netflix documentary on Johnny Manziel. I

942
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: want to weigh in. I thought it was very compelling

943
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: and I have some serious thoughts on that. Hi'm Bernie

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964
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: that name. The truth of the matter is the Untold

965
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: Johnny Football odd Netflix, which debut Tuesday. I watched it

966
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: day one. Ultimately, it chronicles what Johnny Manziel's legacy is

967
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: ten years ago. Isn't that long ago? And when you

968
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: consider the changes that have happened in college football since then,

969
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: with name, image and likeness in the transfer portal, it

970
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: leaves you wondering what Manziel's career would look like if

971
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: you were playing today. And Manziel, I believe is actually

972
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: owed a debt from a lot of kids who aren't

973
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: too familiar with his story. They were eight years old

974
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: when Johnny was playing. They're eighteen now, but they're benefiting

975
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: from a wave that I think started with Johnny, and

976
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 2: I think Johnny was a big part of that momentum

977
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: because of the electricity, the celebrity, and it kind of

978
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: laid bare of the hypocrisy. It's a great documentary, lots

979
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: of f bombs, lots of football. It's very much worth

980
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: the watch, but it's a cautionary tale. It's an expose.

981
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: I took real interest in Johnny Manziel because of what

982
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: he did, and as luck would have it, Johnny Manziel,

983
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: when drafted by Cleveland, played his first ever professional game.

984
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: Granted it was an exhibition game. It was a preseason

985
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: game in Detroit versus Alliance. So I make my way

986
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: back to Michigan three times a year for my fix anyway,

987
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: so I said, I'm going. I got my credential. I went.

988
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: I saw Johnny Manziel in person his first preseason game

989
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: ever in Detroit. He was seven eleven seven four to

990
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: eleven that night through the air sixty five yards, rushed

991
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: for twenty seven yards. He showed exceptional athleticism, body control,

992
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: command of the position. Johnny Manziel could have played any NFL,

993
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 2: not a dot in my mind. The problem is Johnny Manzil,

994
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: in his entire life, has never been subject to structure.

995
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: He walked on water at Tybee High School, he owned

996
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: the campus. And when he got to Texas A and M,

997
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: they lost their first game to Florida because Kirk Cliff

998
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: Kingsbury had actually implemented some structure in the offense, and

999
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel's not a bob structure. He said it himself,

1000
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not giving anything away. In the documentary he said, Hey,

1001
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: I played quarterbacks, real simple, I played backyard street football.

1002
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: Don't let him tackle you and just find the open man.

1003
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: Don't let him tackle you and find the open man.

1004
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: That doesn't work in the National Football League. You've got

1005
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: to study of your playbook at synchronization and synchronized swimming

1006
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 2: times twenty. So what happens. It's the story's oldest time

1007
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 2: a young man with all the talent in the world

1008
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: takes him to a place where his character can't keep him.

1009
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: His behavior was enabled even after game one when Texas

1010
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: A and M lost to Florida and then they started

1011
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: to go nuts. I believe Kingsbury said, I wish I

1012
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: would just let him go Game one. You can't do

1013
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: that in the NFL. Johnny Manziel didn't like the NFL.

1014
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: You gotta be on timed and meetings. You got itineries,

1015
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 2: you got practice, you got work, you got to study

1016
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: the playbook. You got a log time on your laptop,

1017
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: which he didn't do any of that his tablet. It's

1018
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: all chronicled there. It's a quick rise and it's a

1019
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: quick fall, and it shows, frankly, the shelf life of

1020
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: an athlete is can be very short. And really this

1021
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: is almost like a one act play. And the reason

1022
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about this is I don't know anybody who's

1023
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: neutral on Johnny Manzil and that's maybe that's part of

1024
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: his bagnetism, it's part of his charm. We will talk

1025
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: to crack Man next Friday night. He had dinner with

1026
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: him once. The truth of the matter is is Johnny

1027
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: was ahead of his time. It's too bad he was

1028
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: born ten years later. He'd fit right in now. Johnny

1029
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: was a phenomenon. I mean he was. He was a

1030
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: pop culture celebrity. At nineteen years old. He went in

1031
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: He goes into Alabama and beats Nick Saban in twenty twelve,

1032
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: Johnny Football basically became a household name. They chronicle all

1033
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: the highlights and then they chronicle all the low lights.

1034
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: And it starts with his high school career and he

1035
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: says a lot of funny things and he comports himself

1036
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: well and he's an act kind of a natural in

1037
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: front of the camera. But if you ever saw the

1038
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: movie Friday Night Lights in the book by Bissinger back

1039
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: in the twenty years ago, it's phenomenal. This very much

1040
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 2: had a Friday Night Lights feel. He started out in Cerrville, Texas,

1041
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: and there's a montage and it shows Manziel and he

1042
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: kind of owns the town. He literally does. And he's

1043
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: not recruited by Texas and I think that might have

1044
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: pissed him off a little. So he goes to Texas

1045
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: A and M and it was very late in the

1046
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: process where he got his scholarship right. But then he

1047
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: you know, he red shirt his freshman year in Texas

1048
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: him they don't go into that much at all, but

1049
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: he starts as a sophomore and it was a twenty

1050
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: twelve season, and that's when the highlights started to really

1051
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: come to fruition. He was a red shirt freshman. He

1052
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: took the entire country, certainly the SEC with the entire

1053
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: country by storm, wins a Heisman Trophy that year. Throws

1054
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: for thirty eight hundred yards, rushes for fourteen hundred yards,

1055
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: accounts for forty seven total touchdowns. And again Cliff Kingsbury

1056
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: was his offensive coordinator, and he's good in the documentary too,

1057
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: and he talks about the backstory when Johnny Manziel put

1058
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: on the Scooby Doo costume one night, and you know

1059
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: he liked to have his fun. But it reaches a

1060
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: pinnacle on November tenth when they beat Alabama twenty nine

1061
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: to twenty four at Bama. Bama was number one. I

1062
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 2: think he shocked Nick Saban and that's when the birth

1063
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 2: of the Johnny football legend rose to its highest height.

1064
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: And after that everything was a blur. I'm not going

1065
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: to say he was a one hit wonder. But then

1066
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: he won the Heisman Trophy and we haven't seen anything

1067
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: like Johnny Manzil since we may never again, frankly. But

1068
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: then you know the rest of the story. As Paul

1069
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: Harvey used to say, as Manziel's fame grew, well, his

1070
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: exploits off the field, including a battle with the NCAA,

1071
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: and he had a bunch of viral moments, a laundry

1072
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: list of peccadillos. And finally, his agent, who was very

1073
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: compelling in the documentary, manages to work Manziel into the

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Speaker 2: conversation in Cleveland, drafts him toward the end of the

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00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: first round, even after doing the unthinking right before, right

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Speaker 2: before his pro day, right before the combine. And I won't,

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Speaker 2: I won't, I won't. That'd be a spoiler alert if

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00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: I gave you that that you got to watch it.

1079
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Speaker 2: And the documentary really reaches some dark places as Manseil

1080
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: descends and spirals downward. Clearly his substance abuse not only

1081
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: affected his ability to play football, but it really affected

1082
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: his relationship with his father and his agent, Eric Burkhardt,

1083
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: and and through it all. Where you give the reason

1084
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: this documentary pops so well is Johnny Manziel was very candid.

1085
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: He didn't hide a run for any from anything. He

1086
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: he admitted everything he was. I wouldn't say he was contrite,

1087
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: but he was certainly authentic. And it's my understanding. And

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00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: by the way, you know, this is a very invasive,

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00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: It was a very invasive documentary. They went deep into

1090
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: the weeds, They went deep into Johnny Manziel's past. They

1091
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: talked to his friends, his best friend from high school

1092
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: who's a key player in this. And it won't be

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00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: a spoiler alert there, but it's my understanding Johnny Manziel

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: in order to create this documentary with I think it's

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: about seventy five minutes, I'm guessing he had to sit

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00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: an interview chair for twenty hours. And he's thirty years

1097
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: old now, but he still kind of maintains that youth

1098
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: in terms of his swagger. And he went into extremely

1099
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: dark place by now you've seen it in all the headlines,

1100
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: even attempted suicide. Very compelling, very heart wrenching. He was

1101
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: spiraling downward. He decided he was going to have one

1102
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: last five million dollar bender, by his own admission, and

1103
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: he spent months in just debauchery, and he had bought

1104
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: a gun for the purpose of using it. And the

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: day he went to use it, he said, for reasons

1106
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: he can't explain, it just clicked and didn't go off.

1107
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: But it was something to planned for a long time.

1108
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: Now it's a little vegans to what Johnny's doing now.

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01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing. I think he's just

1110
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: hanging out. I think he's in a better place mentally

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01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: than he was, But I don't know what he's you know,

1112
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: what his obligations are when he gets up day to

1113
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: day or what he does. But it's the kind of documentary.

1114
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Speaker 2: It's the kind of compelling expos a journalistic documentary that

1115
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: tells a true story with a message. And again, I

1116
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: think there are a lot of folks here. The shorts

1117
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: aren't clean because even though he brought great success to Texas,

1118
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: A and M, at what cost and what costs this

1119
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: young man? He was not enabled. He was not prepared

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Speaker 2: to go into the NFL. He didn't want structure. He

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: was a freelancer all the way. I can always say

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: I highly recommend it. I liked Johnny Manziel. I'll always

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Speaker 2: remember his first preseason game. And I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like the story's not done.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what the rest of his life brings,

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01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: because he's got his whole life ahead of you, even

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01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: though it seems like he's lived a long life already.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what is what for the future coming up.

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Speaker 2: You heard Shaye talk about it in our trivia game.

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Speaker 2: What a debut for Michael Lorenz And let's tell you

1131
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: this story you don't know. But first let's go back

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

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Speaker 6: All right, Bernie got a couple of quarterfinals at the

1134
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 6: Women's World Cup on tap this morning on Fox. Right now,

1135
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 6: they are in the twenty ninth minute. Australia and France

1136
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 6: are currently scoreless. This game will be followed by England

1137
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 6: in Columbia. That game will kick off around six thirty

1138
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 6: am Eastern time.

1139
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: Friday night.

1140
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball Dodgers defeating Colorado six to one. That's

1141
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 6: their sixth straight victory. John Gray pitched seven scoreless innings

1142
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 6: for the Rangers. They defeated San Francisco two to one.

1143
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 6: Luis Castill struck out eight for the Red Hot Mariner

1144
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 6: as they beat Baltimore nine to two. Eight straight wins

1145
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 6: there for Seattle, Padre snapping a four game skid with

1146
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 6: a ten to five victory in Arizona. Diamondbacks have lost

1147
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 6: nine games in a row. Chris Sale made his first

1148
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 6: start since June early June, that is, struck out seven

1149
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 6: for Boston. They beat Detroit five to two, Austin Riley

1150
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 6: three hits, including a home run for Atlanta, they drubbed

1151
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 6: the Mets seven nothing. And golf at the PGA event

1152
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 6: at Saint Jude, Lucas Glover at one stroke lead over

1153
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 6: George Speed, while Roy McElroy and Scottie Scheffler are three

1154
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 6: strokes back. At the Live Invitational in New Jersey, Cameron

1155
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 6: Smith a two stroke lead over at Dustin Johnson. Right

1156
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 6: back to Bernie Fresh.

1157
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: Kevin, did you get a chance to see the Manzil

1158
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: documentary on Netflix?

1159
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 6: I have not, unfortunately, but I certainly want to. It

1160
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 6: seems very very interesting.

1161
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: Okay, good you do intend to see it? Then absolute

1162
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: when you get a chance. Yes, And I know what

1163
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: were your thoughts on Manziel when that whole thing was happening.

1164
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 6: Well, it was really unfortunate, you know, someone who had everything. Yeah,

1165
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 6: I remember the the upset victory when Texas A and

1166
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 6: M rolled in and just destroyed Alabama and came that

1167
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 6: second year, didn't play as well but still had a

1168
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 6: great season, had all the talent in the world, but

1169
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 6: just lack the work ethic. And the sad thing is

1170
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 6: that someone who can be as productive of his player

1171
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 6: as he was in the college level. If you just

1172
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 6: put a modicum of work in at the NFL level,

1173
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 6: could have had himself a good career. But I think

1174
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 6: it's just kind of a it's just kind of a

1175
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 6: story that it goes back to the scouting and research

1176
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 6: and knowing who you're drafting at that point in Tommy

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 6: for Cleveland, and being able to check into someone's background

1178
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 6: and knowing exactly who you're getting and not falling in

1179
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 6: love with the narrative, actually getting to know the player

1180
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 6: before you draft him. So I do think it's just

1181
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 6: one of those cautionary tales.

1182
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just wasn't built for structure. Everything was improvisational.

1183
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: He very candidly admits it early on. Give me the ball,

1184
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: don't let him tackle me, find the open man. That's

1185
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: why he'd run around like a whirling dervision and find

1186
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: the open receipt. He did some crazy things. So that

1187
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: doesn't play in the NFL. You got to play within

1188
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: the framework of an offense. All right, thanks Kevin, yep,

1189
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: all right, you talk about a debut. Michael Lorenzen. His

1190
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: first song start as a few bill was one no

1191
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: one's gonna ever forget. He had just been acquired from

1192
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: the Tigers eight days earlier. On August first, he makes

1193
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: his home debut in Philadelphia against the Nationals. Pitches the

1194
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: fourteenth no hitter in franchise history, twenty seven outs, and

1195
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't really that easy, and I'm glad they kept

1196
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: him in. David Roberts probably would have pulled him, or

1197
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: maybe the management would have made him pull him, or

1198
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: the genius in the analytics, guy with the computer who

1199
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: never wore a jock, would have pulled him. But Lorenzen

1200
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: struck out five, walk four and he threw a career

1201
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: high one hundred and twenty four pitches, so Lorenzo earned it. Now,

1202
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: the pitch count is probably the most notable thing because

1203
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: it's the highest pitch count of any pitcher and any

1204
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: start this entire Major League season, going back to opening Day.

1205
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, since the start of the

1206
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty season, there are only eleven players in the

1207
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 2: last four years that have thrown at least one hundred

1208
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: twenty pitches in the game. Simple pitchers normally don't go

1209
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: deep into games anymore, but the Phillies showed faith in

1210
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: Lorenzen to get it done, and by the way very quietly.

1211
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: I think Ethan's Phillies might make some real noise in

1212
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs this year. Just keep you know, just hold

1213
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: that thought for later. Now, here's another reason why the

1214
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: pitchcot was especially especially notable for Michael Lorenzen because his

1215
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: previous career high was one hundred and seven, and that

1216
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: was during a five inning outing in his rookieyear with

1217
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 2: the Reds eight years ago. Lorenzen has had a dubious

1218
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: career in the league, in the major leagues. Right that season,

1219
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: he posted an ERA of almost six. He had twenty

1220
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: one starts, and then he ended up getting moved to

1221
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: the bullpen. Lorenzen has basically been a reliever his final

1222
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: six seasons since Cincinnati before the Angels got him last

1223
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: year gave him a chance to start. He was average

1224
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 2: last year, started eighteen games, had an ERA of well

1225
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: over four, but took a big step this year towards

1226
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: the season, you know, in terms of his improvement. He's

1227
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: actually named the All Star team for the first time.

1228
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, another footnote, Michael lorenzam is

1229
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: the only All Star to get trained this year. Now

1230
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: he's got a three point two ERA, he's got a

1231
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: great whip in twenty starts, and guess what, at the

1232
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: end of the year, Michael Lorenzen's a free agent. He's

1233
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: a free agent. And this has been kind of a

1234
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: life changing season for Lorenzen because now he's proven he's

1235
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: he's capable of being a reliable big league starter and

1236
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: he should command maybe the biggest contract of his career. So,

1237
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: regardless of what happens after the season, the other night

1238
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: will likely be the all time high point of Lorenzen's

1239
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: career because if you've watched Nolan Ryan's no hitters, which

1240
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: Michael Lorenzen actually went back on tape and watched everyone

1241
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: on Olan Ryan's no hitters, he said he always wanted

1242
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: to throw a no hitter. In a matter of fact,

1243
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: in the postgame interview on the Phillies broadcast, his mom

1244
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: was there, his wife was there, and they hung on

1245
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: every pitch. And then here's a trivia question. Dominic Smith

1246
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 2: made the last out. He popped out the center field,

1247
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: but again wasn't easy. He only struck on five walk

1248
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: four through one hundred and twenty four career pitches. And

1249
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: right now, Michael Lorenzen might be what I consider the

1250
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: story of the year in Major League Baseball. We shall

1251
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: see another story that might be a story of the year,

1252
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: a historic defeat for the women's soccer team. We have

1253
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: to revisit that. I'd be remiss if I didn't. I'm

1254
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle. Were coming to you live from the Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarat dot com Studios. Keep it

1256
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,600
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1257
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie

1258
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: Frattle Show, coming to you live from the taraat dot

1259
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Speaker 2: all about the shouting. The US women's team run of

1267
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Speaker 2: World Cup dominance is over, at least for now. No

1268
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: team has ever three repeated which I said. Brazil men

1269
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: fifty six sixteen sixty eight three out of four. Maybe

1270
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: they can return in twenty twenty seven and we claim

1271
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: their crown. But after finishing no lower than third in

1272
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: each of the first eight tournaments in the history of

1273
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: Women's World Cup, because they only been doing it since

1274
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: ninety one, they're bouncing around to sixteen in a penalty

1275
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: shootout against Sweden. I was on the air for the

1276
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: first half. I stayed up, I watched it, and then

1277
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: as Mike Carmen and Dan Byer signed on, they did

1278
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: a great job of giving some context. This was shocky

1279
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: do a lot of people, and not shocking that they

1280
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: could lose this year. I kind of half expected it,

1281
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: but it was shocking in the context of history because

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Speaker 2: they played relatively poorly during the entire stage, and they

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: were kind of borderline And actually they played fairly well

1284
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: against Sweden. But this team is extremely offensively challenged. There's

1285
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: just no question about it, right, And I think ironically

1286
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: the US played their best game in the World Cup

1287
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: against Sweden, because in their group stage they were fairly lackluster. Right,

1288
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: But Sweden's an the leite opponent, and you can make

1289
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: a case that the US outplayed them the entire one

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01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty minutes As a matter of fact, I

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: would say other than their goalie, it was a cure

1292
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: of musevic As. That's how Sweden's goalie is. She had

1293
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: the game of her life. She made eleven saves. The

1294
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: game was scoreless even after extra time. When here comes

1295
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,879
Speaker 2: the shootout, and that's the part that was really brutal.

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01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: Megan Rapino had been reliable in the past on penalty shots.

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01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: Center attempt over the bar, as my buddy Jay Shipp said,

1298
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 2: it'd landed in the concession stand. I'm pretty sure it

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: landed in someone's beer. And then Sweden's deciding goal. What

1300
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: do they say football is a game of inches as well,

1301
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: this is a game of centimeters because they had to

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01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: measure it. I think it was a millimeter that was

1303
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: completely imperceptible by the naked eye. Sweden walks off with

1304
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: a victory. Tears for the United States. What went wrong?

1305
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 2: It boils down to the team's poor showing in the

1306
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: group stage. You beat Vietnam, whooped the dam Doo three.

1307
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: Nothing you could tell. Then they looked a little more

1308
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: abund but managed only to draw against Netherlands and Portugal.

1309
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: So you finished second in the group behind the Dutch

1310
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: so that's the problem that second place finish set up

1311
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: a challenging first knockout stage game against Sweden, rather than

1312
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: say South Africa, a team that could have beaten Now.

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to imply there are any games in

1314
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: the World Cup that are easy or that they are automatic,

1315
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: but winning the group would have made the path to

1316
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 2: the finals much smoother for the Americans. So now people

1317
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: are left to ask why why did the US struggle

1318
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: in the group stage. That's the issue the team needs

1319
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: to solve moving forward. Their coach Vlado Vlatko and Anofsky.

1320
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: He's drawing a lot of criticism. I don't know if

1321
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 2: he'll keep his job. I don't call for people's jobs,

1322
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: but if I were him, I wouldn't get too comfortable.

1323
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: He's being criticized for his conservative approach during the early

1324
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: games of the tournament, but he actually took a chance

1325
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 2: against Sweden and it paid off. Coach made a very

1326
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: unexpected move, because this is a guy that's typically very

1327
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: conservative Vandanovski. He started a young lady by the name

1328
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: of Emily's Sonnet, inserted her unto the midfield, and he

1329
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: created a double pivot with Andy Sullivan. What did that do.

1330
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 2: That shift allowed Lindsay Horan to charge into the attack.

1331
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 2: Lindsay Horan, of course, you remember, scored that brilliant goal

1332
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: to tie Netherlands off a phenomenal corner kick from Rose Leavell,

1333
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: who couldn't play against Sweden because she had two yellow cards.

1334
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: And I knew that was going to be a problem

1335
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: right then and there, because they needed Lavelle's speed, her

1336
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: tenacity and her experience. Well, Andonovsky knew that going in

1337
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 2: he had to change his lineup, so he starts Emily's

1338
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: Sonnet in the midfield, creates the double pivot with Andy

1339
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: Sullivan that allows Lindsay Horan to be an attacker, and

1340
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: then that also enabled their outside backs Crystal Dunn and

1341
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: Emily Fox to spring forward on the flanks. All of

1342
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: a sudden, you saw a pretty decent offense for himed.

1343
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: They couldn't finish, they couldn't put it the net, but

1344
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 2: connecting in the midfield and building up through the lines,

1345
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: their attack was humming. Was showing life, more life than

1346
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: it had shown in the prior three games. And ironically

1347
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: it was against an elite team Sweden, who's maybe on

1348
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: the short list to win this whole thing. They're still alive.

1349
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, the squad they're creating all

1350
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 2: kinds of dangerous chances which they hadn't been doing earlier

1351
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: in the tournament. You got a credit coach Andanofski for that.

1352
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 2: But there's one thing that eluded the United States, and

1353
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: that's the thing that plagued the team all tournament finishing.

1354
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 2: So you will see more critics rag on the coach

1355
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 2: because for that reason. Even though Coachandanofsky made you know this,

1356
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: which was unexpected but very clever and very tactical, it's

1357
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: now being sort of characterized, well, he did it, but

1358
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: it was too little, too late. Still an early extra

1359
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: from the World Cup where I think a lot of

1360
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: folks believe this team just said a god given right

1361
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: to get to the finals. You combine that with a

1362
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: disappointing third place finish at the Olympics two years ago.

1363
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: That's where it starts to stack up, and it could

1364
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: mean that Andonowsky's time in charge could be over. Now

1365
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: I get it. Part of the narrative is that there's

1366
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: been lots of reports that the World Cup has an

1367
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: increased quality of competition, that companies around company excuse me,

1368
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: countries around the world are now making this incredible investment.

1369
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 2: Their development programs are far more superior than they have.

1370
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 2: They're attracting better athletes, they're getting better resources, better training,

1371
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 2: and maybe they've caught up. I don't really know. Well,

1372
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: I think we'll see. I can tell you that I

1373
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: didn't expect. I did not expect the US team to

1374
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: win it, but I didn't know that they'd go out

1375
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: this soon before the tournament. As the tournament went on,

1376
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: you could clearly see that they were having issues. So

1377
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: where do they go from here? And I don't mean

1378
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: home dinner, maybe a show, because you follow up with

1379
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: third place finished at the Olympics and the early extra

1380
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 2: from the World Cup and the fact that their history

1381
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: against Sweden hasn't necessarily been great. So again, other countries

1382
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: have improved their women's programs. But the reality is the

1383
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,879
Speaker 2: Americans can reclaim can reclaim their status as the dominant

1384
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: team in the world. But they still got to do it.

1385
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy. Megan Apino retired, but frankly,

1386
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why she was on the team this

1387
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: last year. I don't think and Thenovski needed to keep

1388
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: her and she was worthless notwithstanding her earlier performances in

1389
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: previous World Cups, which very much contributed. Pretty clear to

1390
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: me that Alex Morgan's lost to the yard off her fastball.

1391
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: She didn't score a single goal in the entire tournament,

1392
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: but again her legacy secure. So does she come back

1393
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: at age thirty eight? Is she a fixed are on

1394
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: the team? I don't know. I don't know. I think

1395
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: she wants to. But if the Americans are going to

1396
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: reclaim their status as a dominant team, you've got to

1397
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: have a succession plan now, because they have been so dominant.

1398
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: And this is true with national teams in many sports,

1399
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,919
Speaker 2: in many countries, the inevitably go through up and down cycles.

1400
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: And you had to know that this was a transitional

1401
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: year for the US women's national team when you consider

1402
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: that several players from the last World Cup not only

1403
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: aged out of their prime, there were also multiple injuries

1404
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 2: at key positions. But we were told that this new

1405
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,440
Speaker 2: generation of stars had arrived, and you started to recognize

1406
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: their names, Sophie Smith, Trinity Rodman, Alyssa Thompson. They're going

1407
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: to be the ones called on to carry the team

1408
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: into the future. They played hard, but the inexperience showed

1409
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: clearly the pressure on the world stage might have been

1410
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: a little too much for them, so they were crushed

1411
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 2: this time. Will they be motivated for revenge next time?

1412
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: I still say the Mia Ham, Brandy Chastain, Julie Foudy,

1413
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: that team was what I consider to be the gold standard.

1414
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: To this day, they're still having impact on the game.

1415
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: You saw Carly Lloyd's commentary. I thought it was succinct.

1416
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,879
Speaker 2: I thought it was honest. I thought it was direct.

1417
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Wasn't well received. That's a shame because she spoke truth

1418
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: and rather than give speeches, all the US team had

1419
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 2: to do was prove it on the field, which unfortunately

1420
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 2: they weren't able to do. And when they were at

1421
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: the history books, you can say the dominance is over

1422
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. We'll resume in twenty twenty seven.

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01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out and it'll get here sooner

1424
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: than you think. The future always arrives at a schedule.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, Hard Knocks episode one is in the books.

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Speaker 2: the first I think fairly well anticipate Hard Knocks. Episode

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Speaker 2: one is in the books, and it started with the

1454
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: Robert Salad motivational story about how the crow lands on

1455
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: the on the back of the eagle and pecks and

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Speaker 2: pecks away, and then the eagle flies so high that

1457
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Speaker 2: the crow cane breathe and finally he just falls away,

1458
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: and you get the picture, right, And Sala's got like

1459
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: kind of a laid back approach. And I guess the

1460
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: Jets are going to organically. They're gonna organically let this

1461
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: season unfold. They're they're they're not giving a lot of speeches,

1462
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 2: right like, I mean a lot of teams every other

1463
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: day justin Field's got to give a speech, and Jordan

1464
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: loves they got to give a speech. And how good

1465
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna just play the games, Okay, I remember. So

1466
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: it made me want to tell a story because I

1467
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: heard a story once about how you know, the forceful

1468
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: approach doesn't work right? Story about the wind in the sun.

1469
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: They were looking down on this man who had an

1470
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: overcoat sitting on a bench, and the wind and the

1471
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: sun had an argument. They decided to have a bet

1472
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: who they could, who could get the old man to

1473
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: take his coat off. So the wind blue and blue

1474
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: and blue as hard as it could and blew as

1475
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 2: harder and blue harder, And every time it blew harder,

1476
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: the the old man just he pulled the coat tighter.

1477
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: But the sun just got progressively slowly warmer and warmer

1478
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: and warmer, very deliberately, very slowly warmer and warmer, and

1479
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: finally was so warm the man just took the coat off.

1480
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: And I get the feeling that the Jets are trying

1481
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: to we got this. Let's be let's be cool here,

1482
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: let's just let it happen. And I'm listen, I'm rooting

1483
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: for the Jets to do well. I have no skin

1484
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 2: in the game. But look, it's been fifty five years

1485
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: since the Jets won Super Bowl three, which is one

1486
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: of the legendary games of all time. It solidified, it

1487
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: solidified the merger between the AFL and the NFL, and

1488
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: they've never been close to winning the second title. And

1489
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: they did it at seventeen point underdogs and did it

1490
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: with Joe Namath, which is, by the way, how they started.

1491
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: So all eyes are on the stars of the team,

1492
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: right Aaron Rodgers Hard Knocks premiered. I was looking forward

1493
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 2: to it. I watched it. There was actually a little

1494
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: bit of excitement in the air. All of a sudden,

1495
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: you see Rogers walking out of the practice field and

1496
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: if you don't believe they're not, they're milking this for

1497
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: all it's worth. The HBO people. It took a full

1498
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: They followed him for one full minute of Aaron Rodgers

1499
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: just walking on the field, letting all the fans soak

1500
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: it in. It's reality. You know, here we are. You

1501
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 2: got this young, talented group on both sides of the ball,

1502
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: and now you've got the missing link of future Hall

1503
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: of Famer at the heme it was. It was cinematic,

1504
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: a full minute him just walking on the field. And

1505
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: then when they asked what Rogers brings to the Jets.

1506
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 2: There was one particular scene Tuesday Nights episode Robert sala

1507
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: and I believe he was very sincere when he said this.

1508
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: I don't think this was rehearsed. I don't think this

1509
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: was contrived. He just basically simply said, I think he's

1510
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 2: obviously the best quarterback I've ever had on a team.

1511
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: That's fair. Rogers is going to the Hall of Fame.

1512
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: It's a three time MVP. Okay, but there's pressure now,

1513
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: there's pressure on this team to win. Rogers is the

1514
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: key piece. He's an important piece, He's the apex. But

1515
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: it will take a complete unit to get to the top.

1516
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 2: As important as quarterback is, as thin as that position

1517
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: is in all the sports, where a very few people

1518
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: can do it well, it's the most dependent of any

1519
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 2: position on the field. The quarterback needs the rest of

1520
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: the symphony to be singing along on key. The roster.

1521
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I think this roster is in

1522
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 2: pretty good shape. You got a couple of studs, stand

1523
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: out second year players, Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner. Come on,

1524
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 2: just watching the two go after each other respectfully, a

1525
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: healthy respect. These guys are elite athletes. Man, these guys

1526
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: are big time players, and they came right out of

1527
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: the gate, out of college, step stepped into the national

1528
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: football tame. They're a productive right away. And you know,

1529
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: iron sharpens iron, and so when Wilson and Gardner when

1530
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: they get to you know, one won the Offensive Rookie

1531
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 2: of the Year award and the other one the Defensive

1532
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: Rookieyear of the Award, respectively. When those two battle it out,

1533
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. It's pretty good TV, and their banter's okay,

1534
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: but you just marvel at how how truly good they are.

1535
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: And then of course you can't tell the story without

1536
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: including third year quarterback Zach Wilson. He was once a

1537
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: rookie thrown into the fire. He wasn't ready for it.

1538
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: He clearly was not going to be able to take

1539
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 2: the face of being the franchise and Wilson, I think

1540
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: admitted in Tuesday's show that it wasn't really fun last

1541
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: couple of years and he was not capable play in

1542
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: that role. As a matter of fact, I think quoted him.

1543
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 2: He said, honestly, things kind of felt they were maybe

1544
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: getting a little worse each week and confidence was going down.

1545
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: So not always fun. Yeah, we know, but now Zach

1546
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: Wilson has embraced his role as a backup quarterback with Rogers,

1547
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: and Robert Saalid admitted as much, and hard knocks, you know,

1548
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: we got to watch Rogers mentoring Wilson and other players,

1549
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: and it didn't seem contrived. I think Aaron Rodgers is

1550
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: in a comfort zone like he's never been in his

1551
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: entire life. I don't think he got the respect in

1552
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: high school, was not recruited, went to but junior college,

1553
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: went to Cal toiled behind Brett Fahr for years, never

1554
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,839
Speaker 2: really felt he got the respect. The dude's got a

1555
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 2: not a chip on his shoulder, he's got a ten

1556
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: bowlders on his shoulder. But now he seems really content

1557
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: And when you watch him mentor other players and talk,

1558
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: and Rodgers is a bright man. He just maybe he

1559
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 2: isn't misunderstood. But I think he's just angry that he

1560
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: always felt he had to do twice as much to

1561
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: get half as much respect.

1562
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 3: Now.

1563
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 2: I didn't play in the Hall of Fame game obviously

1564
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,879
Speaker 2: against Cleveland, but he was engaged and he seemed genuinely

1565
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: engaged on the spot on the sideline. He even asked

1566
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: for a headset and he was relaying tips to Zach Wilson.

1567
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 2: He was even even mentioned he called for Wilson to

1568
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: connect with Malik Taylor right before the snap, and sure enough,

1569
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: this made for great TV. The next play, Wilson hits

1570
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: Malik Taylor for the longest play of the game, of

1571
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: fifty seven yard reception. It showed off, you know, it

1572
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: showed off the arm strength that Jack Wilson does have.

1573
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: He clearly has arm talent. If you talk to the

1574
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: people who saw him at his pro day and the

1575
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: combine was making, he was turning heads, okay, but he's

1576
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: not mature enough to handle the role and take all

1577
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: the things that came along with it. So one of

1578
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,799
Speaker 2: the reasons you bring Rogers on your team, in addition

1579
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: to hopefully winning a Super Bowl, was to try to

1580
01:26:54,800 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 2: position and prepare for Zach Wilson to be the successor.

1581
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Maybe two years away, I don't know, maybe even three

1582
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: years away. I don't know. If Rogers played three more years,

1583
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: and that would mean it would take Zach Wilson four

1584
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: or five years to really put that happened to Steve

1585
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: Young in Tampa Bay. He was none the worse for wear.

1586
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: You imagine if you're Young with his skill set was

1587
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: playing in today's game. So all in all, listen, I'm

1588
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: here for it. There's still four more episodes. This is

1589
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: the eighteen season of Hard Knock. One of the best analogies.

1590
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 2: I really got a kick out of it. I made

1591
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: fun of it in the minute ago, but he says,

1592
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 2: you know, the only bird in the world that will

1593
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: attack an eagle is a crow. It's a crow. There'll

1594
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: be a whole lot of crows expecting us to fall

1595
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: on our face. That actually kind of resonated. It made sense.

1596
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: And I like Robert Sala, and I know he's from Dearborn, Michigan,

1597
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: Dearborn Fortune High. I believe it's a very proud school.

1598
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: They play hard nose football there. They actually won a

1599
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 2: state championship back in ninety three. I think with Robert

1600
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: Sala was too young to be on that team. But

1601
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Robert Sala understands the essence of football. And I think

1602
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: you've got a really good blend there in Green Bay.

1603
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: And I was kind of impressed watching Nathaniel Hackett too.

1604
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 2: He got a kick out of him. And even Live Schreiber,

1605
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: the fifty five year old Live Schreiber. I didn't know

1606
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 2: he played cornerback at Brooklyn Tech. Voice of God Right,

1607
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: I got to kick hole McCole Hardman. He's a newcomer

1608
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 2: to the team. He talks to Rogers mid practice about

1609
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Hey Aaron, I watch you since I was seven years old.

1610
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 2: If I'm doing the math correctly here, that means when

1611
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: Hartman was seven, he was watching Rogers as a packer,

1612
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: rookie and ten years old, and Rogers became a starter

1613
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: and now they're on the same team. That's kind of

1614
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 2: wild when you think about it. Right now, from what

1615
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: we've learned so far about the defense, they're having to

1616
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: do a lot of push ups because Rogers is lighting

1617
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: them up in drills. You know how that goes, You

1618
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: get beat you to push ups. I bet the Jets

1619
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: defensive players aren't thrilled about the push ups, but I

1620
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: guess they're happy to do them because they know they

1621
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: got Rogers on the team. And another nice touch he

1622
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 2: got to see Sauce Gardner's graduation from the University of Cincinnati,

1623
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: and even with Nick vad Exel there, I'm surprised the

1624
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: next van Axel didn't say, hey, Man, can't Coon. Can't coon?

1625
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: But well, I digress. But they had a nice little

1626
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: chat between the two of them, and van Exel certainly

1627
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: certainly showed a lot of awareness, and I think, listen,

1628
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: that's hashtag respect. Okay. Sauce Gardner who's a Detroit kid.

1629
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm on Gardener. He fulfilled his promise to his mom

1630
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: to finish his degree. She wanted him to earn that.

1631
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,440
Speaker 2: You have to respect when players go back to school.

1632
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 2: And I love that Gardner got it done. He didn't

1633
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 2: waste time. He got it done right after his rookieyear.

1634
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: You got to get the man and put some respect

1635
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: on his name. Now, the most dramatic entrance, of course,

1636
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: the cameo. I don't believe ever that the shared the

1637
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: narrator of the show, the Voice of God, Live Schreiber

1638
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:49,440
Speaker 2: has ever been on camera, and he lands via helicopter,

1639
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 2: said it wasn't his idea. That was kind of badass, though.

1640
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: Then he narrates his own landing. He meets up her Rogers,

1641
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: who seems to really fanboy over Live Schreiber, calling him

1642
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 2: the Voice of God, not one time, but multiple times.

1643
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: And then, of course Live Schreiber breaks right into I'm

1644
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: just trying to keep up with John Facenda, who's the

1645
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 2: all time voice of NFL films. Unreal, that's the voice

1646
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: you hear, that deep voice you heard forever. I thought

1647
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: that was a nice touch. I got a kick out

1648
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: of that as well, and then of course the Hall

1649
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 2: of Fame game, he saw the guys on the sideline,

1650
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 2: even had a little Dureaul Reeves had a little camera time.

1651
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: He'd been you know, enshrined into the Hall of Fame.

1652
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: Over the weekend, he went up to meet Sauce Gardner.

1653
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 2: Rogers ends up standing next to Gardner at one point

1654
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 2: during the ceremony and mentions, you know what you could be.

1655
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: You could end up being inducted one day, and Sauce

1656
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: Gardener looks at him and says, yeah, man, to be

1657
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 2: a long time. I'm gonna play I'm gonna play in

1658
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: this league forty years. Rogers, he's trying to think of

1659
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 2: a clever line to say, and he just finally says,

1660
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 2: that's that's a long time. That's a long time. So look,

1661
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 2: the Jets are a great story. I'm looking forward to

1662
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: two of Hard Knocks, and of course they showed the

1663
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:07,440
Speaker 2: loss against Cleveland and we'll see what what next episode

1664
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 2: holds on Tuesday night. And again I'm a fan of

1665
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: the franchise. I enjoyed and perhaps it's just it signifies

1666
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 2: we're close to another real football season starting, and I

1667
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 2: think it's tremendous and enjoyable. And look, we all know

1668
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: that reality TV is basically anything but reality, and a

1669
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: lot of this is scripted, and a lot of this

1670
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 2: is orchestrated in pre programmed, but for the most part,

1671
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 2: it does still seem authentic. Right, there was a hell

1672
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 2: of a lot of man we got Rogers and the

1673
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: little love fest got to be just a little much.

1674
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 2: But I think those guys are genuinely happy because when

1675
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: you see Rogers dropping it in a bucket fifty five

1676
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 2: yards away and incredible accuracy and confidence and experience. He

1677
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, he talks to talk, but he walks the

1678
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: walk and they haven't seen a guy like that, and

1679
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 2: that does get you excited. There are transcendent players and

1680
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 2: let'll tell you this is a This has a chance

1681
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: to be an incredible renaissance. Aaron Rodgers. When you consider

1682
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 2: the last three years, how he's been portrayed, a lot

1683
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 2: of it through his own doing. His shorts aren't clean either.

1684
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: He hasn't been perfect, and the truth of the matters,

1685
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 2: he hasn't had a hell of a lot of success

1686
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 2: in Green Bay the last three years has he and

1687
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: people question whether we years old and they go out

1688
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 2: and draft Jordan Love and you know the whole story.

1689
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 2: But this is a fresh start and we're all watching,

1690
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 2: and I think Hard Knocks provides that insight that might

1691
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: just be a little bit cutting between the layers and

1692
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: getting a little into the weeds. Let's see what the

1693
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 2: next four episodes look like, and well, I'll have kind

1694
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 2: of a synopsis on each one, but coming up we'll

1695
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: bring in the crew. We're bringing Kevin and Shay get

1696
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: their thoughts on Hard Knocks just in general, and if

1697
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: they saw the first episode, and what their thoughts are,

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01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: and what the thoughts are on the jets in general.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you want to remind everybody, Tonight's show

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Speaker 2: come to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio tyrack dot Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening

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01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. How

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01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 2: R back on the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 2: Come to your life from the tyrack dot Com studios

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01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas take you up to two am Pacific,

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01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 2: five am Eastern talking Hard Knocks. Just a couple of

1711
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: quickies before we get to Kevin and Shay. I gotta

1712
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 2: admit Robert Sala's speech about crows and stories and eagles

1713
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: and crows and flying high was okay. But if you notice,

1714
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 2: the team didn't exactly look enthused. They weren't amped up.

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01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: They looked a little They had kind of a weird

1716
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 2: look on their face. And I got to tell you,

1717
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: the f bombs coming out of Robert Sala's mouth. They

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01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 2: don't roll off the tongue like they did with Bill O'Brien.

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01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 2: They just don't. And they looked very unnatural. And by

1720
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 2: the way, all due respect to Ed Sheeran, we're showing

1721
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: this training camp montage set to cheer and shivers in

1722
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: the background. Okay, I didn't get that, but that's just me. Kevin,

1723
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 2: did you watch the first episode of Hard Knocks?

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01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 6: I have not had a chance to watch the first

1725
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 6: episode yet, unfortunately, but just like the Mansael documentary, it

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01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 6: is on my list.

1727
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 2: So have you heard have you talked to anybody about it?

1728
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: And what's your general, So what is your general thought

1729
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: about Hard Knocks and more specifically the New York Jets

1730
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 2: this year anyway.

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01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 6: Well, hard Knocks in general, I kind of felt over

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01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 6: the last few years it's it's been kind of just homogenized,

1733
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 6: for lack of a better term, it's a find a

1734
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 6: true undrafted rookie guy to follow around. Here's the backup

1735
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 6: quarterback and his wife cooking a meal. Here's a guy

1736
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 6: that has a truck and a side hills. It's the

1737
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 6: same thing, you know, And I'm not trying I know. Look,

1738
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 6: I know they're trying their best to try to give

1739
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 6: you some backstory, and I recycle some of the same

1740
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 6: narratives that we already know about the certain same players.

1741
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 6: But I feel like they've kind of reached their limit

1742
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 6: in things that they can possibly do when following and

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01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 6: chronicling a team. So now, look, I Bernie, I've still watched.

1744
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 6: I still watch pretty much every season, but I do

1745
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 6: think I don't know what they can do despice up

1746
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 6: a little bit. I do like the regular season version

1747
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 6: that they've done the last couple of years, and then

1748
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 6: following up the Amazon Prime All or Nothing series that

1749
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 6: they had a couple of years ago, because then there's

1750
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 6: a storyline to follow throughout the entire season, and there's

1751
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 6: you know, there's actually building towards something. So I do

1752
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 6: like the regular season version, but the preseason version for me,

1753
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 6: is kind of passe at this point.

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01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 2: I agree homogenized is the operative word. Good observation. And

1755
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 2: of course we will not see people getting cut anymore,

1756
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 2: which was always compelling, and you know, you don't want

1757
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 2: to see people lose their job, but oftentimes those guys

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01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 2: end up on other team's rosters, and that was always

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01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 2: really that was pretty compelling TV. All right, Shade, did

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01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: you watch your Hard Knocks?

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01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 8: I did watch it.

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01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, your thoughts?

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01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 10: So, I mean I liked it. I'm I'm a fan

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01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 10: of Hard Knocks. I've watched every season basically. Something I

1765
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 10: didn't like about the episode though, is there wasn't a

1766
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 10: lot of clips from the actual practice facility, I think,

1767
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 10: like other than from like that one position group meeting,

1768
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 10: from like the group meeting rooms, but like most of

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01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 10: it was just from the game in Canton, from the

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01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 10: practice field, and that's one of the things I like

1771
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 10: the most because you see these random conversations going on

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01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 10: or just the small little interactions that happened like within

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01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 10: the practice facility or just while they're watching film or

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01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 10: something like that. Like the comedic relief almost like comes

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01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 10: with it is something that I really like. But I

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01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 10: thought it was really cool. I mean, the Robert solid

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01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 10: speech was great. I was actually watching it during the

1778
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 10: Jason Smith Show and all I could hear him scream was.

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01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 8: For the last four hours.

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01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 10: So I mean, yeah, I do have some hate for them,

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01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 10: just because that's in the back of my head twenty

1782
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 10: four to seven.

1783
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 2: But it was cool.

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01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:39,440
Speaker 8: I mean, it was a great episode.

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01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: No, it's good observation. I think we'd all like to

1786
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: see them get into the weeds a little more. You

1787
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: did have the one meeting with the defensive coordinator and

1788
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 2: she's all right, well you're do your job. Do your job. Well,

1789
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 2: that's for the rest of the f and NFL ours

1790
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 2: is do your job and a little more. Okay. I

1791
01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 2: do like those conversations that are high level that you

1792
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 2: only will hear in a professional camp. And some coaches

1793
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 2: are just wee we'll see to what degree the Jets

1794
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: coaches are creative, but some are incredibly creative. I mean

1795
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: when they did the Atlanta Falcons years Ago one coach

1796
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 2: was talking to a linebacker who was starting to come

1797
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 2: in to his own in the NFL. He says, son,

1798
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 2: you can play this game, but you're not good enough

1799
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: to be an a hole. And he said the real

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01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: ward A. I'm thinking, what a great statement. You know,

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01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people you never want to

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01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: be around someone who's arrogant. But if they're arrogant and

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01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 2: they're an idiot, that's a bad party. If they're arrogant

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01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 2: and they're successful, he'll put up with it. You don't

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01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 2: like it, but he says, you're not good enough to

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01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,879
Speaker 2: be arrogant an ahole. I'm looking for some clever dialogue

1807
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 2: because I've heard it in my day. Nathaniel Hackett. I'm

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01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 2: underwhelmed by Nathaniel Hackett. He's he's a good dude, right.

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01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I think he knows what he's doing, and he's in

1810
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,879
Speaker 2: his role now, he's in his element as an offensive

1811
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 2: coordinator and he's trying to say face. I don't care

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01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 2: what anybody says. There's no way you can not look

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01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 2: at Nathaniel Hackett the rest of the year and think

1814
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 2: about Sean Payton's commidents. What makes that goal away the

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01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 2: Jets get to the playoffs, okay, and get to the

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01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game or something, then it goes away, I think.

1817
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: And then of course Zach Wilson, I mean, Nathaniel Hacketts

1818
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,879
Speaker 2: looking for redemption and Zach Wilson's very much looking for redemption.

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01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: And I think Zach Wilson got off to a decent start.

1820
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 2: He's trying to show that he's humble, he's trying to

1821
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 2: be dutiful, he's being honest about his last couple seasons.

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01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is coaching him up, and Wilson throws, shows

1823
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: his arm talent, throws a couple of nice long balls.

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01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, Zach's, you know, maybeen hitting the

1825
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: weight room. His his biceps look look decent. Right, all right,

1826
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Speaker 2: coming up, Chris Profets World of Soccer, But first let's

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01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 2: go back to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest all.

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01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 6: Right, one game in progress quarterfinals at the Women's World Cup.

1829
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 6: Right now, Franz and Australia scoreless in the seventy second minute.

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01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 6: This game will be followed on Fox by England taking

1831
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 6: on Columbia. That game will kick off around six thirty

1832
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 6: am Eastern time in baseball Friday night, the Dodgers defeated

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01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 6: the Rockies in Los Angeles six to one for their

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01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 6: six consecutive victory. Rangers over the Giants two to one

1835
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 6: behind solo home runs from Nathaniel Lowe and Mitch Garver.

1836
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 6: San Diego handed Arizona their ninth straight loss, a ten

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01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 6: to five victory there for the Padres. Mariners won their

1838
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 6: ninth in a row with a nine to two victory

1839
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 6: over Baltimore. Brewers over the White Sox in extra innings

1840
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,839
Speaker 6: seven to six. Aaron Judge a home run for the Yankees.

1841
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 6: They beat Florida. Wins for Houston, Atlanta, the Phillies, and

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01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 6: the Cubs. Preseason football, Jordan Loves seven to ten, passing

1843
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 6: for forty six yards and a touchdown for the Packers

1844
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 6: and a victory over the Bengals. Sam Howell the touchdown

1845
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,919
Speaker 6: pass for the Commanders. They beat the Browns seventeen to fifteen.

1846
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,879
Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson was three for three passing for twelve yards.

1847
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 6: He also rushed for twenty yards and the loss for Cleveland.

1848
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,799
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson passed for ninety three yards in a touchdown

1849
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 6: for Denver. They lost to Arizona eighteen to seventeen. Back

1850
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 6: to berniey Fridle.

1851
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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Kevin, good stuff, buddy. All right, always

1852
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,759
Speaker 2: a ton to talk about. Chris Prophet's World of Soccer.

1853
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 2: We've got to have our epilogue on the women his

1854
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 2: team's exit. Will the Saudi Pro League be televised? Harry Kane,

1855
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: Lionel Messi in the news. That's why we bring you

1856
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: every week, Chris Profet's World of Soccer.

1857
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 7: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

1858
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 2: All right, Chris, uh, the World Cup continues, but not

1860
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 2: without the women's team. What are your closing thoughts?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's like we kind of called at the start

1862
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 11: of this tournament, Bernie, I think you and I were

1863
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 11: both kind of skeptical about the a massive amount of

1864
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,719
Speaker 11: praising heat at the feet of the United Hit women's

1865
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 11: team before they had really done anything. We understood that

1866
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 11: they were changing over a generation here and that a

1867
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 11: three pp was certainly not going to be easy. I

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01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 11: thought it was more because the rest of the world

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01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 11: had caught up. I was not anticipating as poor of

1870
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 11: the offense to performances as I had seen. I know

1871
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 11: a lot's been made about, you know, the final penalty

1872
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 11: get shootout, and about Meghan Rapino among others missing their kicks.

1873
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 11: But I think you and I talked that night. We

1874
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 11: both agreed it was the best they played all tournament.

1875
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 11: But you know, when it comes to a nil nel

1876
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 11: draw at the end of extra time and it comes

1877
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 11: down to penalty kicks, you're putting your faith in a

1878
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 11: little bit of random chance and where your leg's going

1879
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 11: to go on a certain kick. So it's a team

1880
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 11: that really, I think acted like they came into this

1881
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 11: already winning the tournament and really just we're not ready

1882
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 11: for the spotlight yet. And then that's just the shortened.

1883
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 7: End of it.

1884
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 11: As you said last week, it feels like more of

1885
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 11: the Olympics and how they came up short back then too.

1886
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 2: So coach and Danowski made I thought a shrewd move

1887
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 2: in the final game in his lineup, providing opportunities for

1888
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Lindsay around. They created offense, just couldn't put it the net.

1889
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 2: Now people are saying it was too little, too late.

1890
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 2: Did he keep his job?

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01:41:58,640 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1892
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 11: I'm not quite sure what to really make of his

1893
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 11: job right now. From everything I've seen, everyone seems very

1894
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 11: upset about the manager, but.

1895
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 6: That always seems to be the.

1896
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 11: Case of the United States teams. No one's really happy

1897
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 11: with the manager at any point at any time. I think, though,

1898
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 11: given just how he's handled these lineups and didn't really

1899
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:20,520
Speaker 11: get anyone set for this, I would be not surprised

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01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 11: if he's out of a job, though. It seems like

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01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 11: they're already measuring up other candidates for the next Olympics.

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01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 2: So Fox continues to be aggressive in their coverage of soccer,

1903
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 2: including the Saudi Pro League. What have you got?

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01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, so this was actually very surprising news this week.

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01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 11: We've talked in the past before, Bernie about how the

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01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 11: Saudi Pro League has really thrown their money around, especially

1907
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 11: given that a lot of the league is backed by

1908
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 11: the Saudi Royal Investment Fund and now Fox in the

1909
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 11: United States and also in other places, the Saudi Pro

1910
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 11: League is becoming more available. So we've got Fox the

1911
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 11: United States. Zone's going to pick it up in Canada.

1912
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 11: I believe there's deals in place in the UK, France, Australia, Austria,

1913
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 11: several other European countries. It seems like they are actually

1914
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 11: serious after a little bit to actually start to Now

1915
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 11: they've got some star power with Cristiano Ronaldo and Krim Benzima,

1916
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 11: they wanted to start putting this on televisions. I worry

1917
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 11: if it's a little bit too little, too late, at

1918
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 11: least here in the United States, because if you're going

1919
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 11: to be selling us on the Saudi Pro League and

1920
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 11: the star power like Cristiana Ronaldo, we've already kind of

1921
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 11: had that meteor impact that is Leonel Messi, So they're

1922
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 11: going to have to play a little bit of catch up.

1923
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 11: But it should be interesting to add that to another

1924
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 11: pile of more soccer available over in this country. But

1925
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 11: they're working on improving their visibility, which is great. I've

1926
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 11: had doubts about how serious they were with this league,

1927
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 11: and you know, Global Global Deals definitely helps that way.

1928
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing more soccer on TV.

1929
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 2: You're doing a great job, all right, Harry Kane on

1930
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 2: the movie. We talked about him a lot last year

1931
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 2: during the fall in the Men's World Cup. Honest way

1932
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 2: to Baron Munich the headline and I saw is it

1933
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 2: true they paid one hundred and eleven million for.

1934
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 11: Him something in that ballpark. Harry Kanes made no bones

1935
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 11: about that. He's been wanting to depart and him and

1936
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 11: Tottenham have been trying to figure out a way to

1937
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:17,520
Speaker 11: make the divorce happen for about the last two years,

1938
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 11: and I think there was more power in in Tottenham's

1939
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 11: court in this case. Although to be honest, the only

1940
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 11: I believe the deal he signed with Byron Munich is

1941
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 11: about four years, so he's thirty right now. That will

1942
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 11: take him through basically the end of his peak. And

1943
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 11: you know, it was a it was a it was

1944
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 11: a deal, it was a it was a king's ransom.

1945
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 11: But Harry Kane is really a king, a king fourteen

1946
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 11: years the Tottenham Hotspur and unfortunately the club just isn't

1947
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 11: going anywhere. They're not doing anything the best. We could

1948
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 11: maybe say he's going to compete for a care About Cup,

1949
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 11: but you know, this is a man, the captain of

1950
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 11: England and he's wants to play in Champions League and

1951
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 11: Byron Munich kind of gives him that chance to really

1952
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 11: gopher titles in in Bluenesliga, Gopher Champions League, and uh yeah,

1953
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 11: it's it's sad to see him leave Tottenham, but I

1954
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 11: think he's gonna have some great opportunities at Bayern Munich.

1955
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 2: So we finished with Leannel Messi, who just continues to

1956
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 2: look like a man against boys. And it's my understanding.

1957
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 2: It's my understanding. Enter Miami is now a League Cup

1958
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 2: favorite because of how well he's playing.

1959
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, they're already into the semi finals, and actually

1960
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 11: LAFC got knocked out of the semi finals in a

1961
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 11: rather stunning development here in the League's Cup this week,

1962
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 11: so it's clearing the way for it. But Bernie, this

1963
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 11: is his fifth straight goal. He sees in the game

1964
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 11: he scored goals in and he didn't he didn't read

1965
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 11: this victory office. What a lot more goes to the

1966
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 11: you know, the other former, Joseph Martinez. Miami's playing very

1967
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 11: well right now. Messi is just unstoppable. And Martinez himself,

1968
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 11: I think earlier this week, talked about, hey, when he

1969
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 11: plays well, it opens up our opportunities for the rest

1970
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 11: of us as well. I didn't think that with him

1971
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 11: playing about half the MLS season, he might be in

1972
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 11: play for some sort of some sort of goal title here.

1973
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 11: I don't even know if League Cups qualify for that.

1974
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 11: But he's not going to stop. He's not going to stop.

1975
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 11: And at this point, getting in to see him at

1976
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 11: any kind of US venue is starting to look like,

1977
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 11: you know, you're buying tickets for Taylor Swift.

1978
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Literally. I got to tell you. He's normalizing incredible performances

1979
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 2: every game, and his teammates, you're doing a great job

1980
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 2: of setting him up.

1981
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1982
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 11: I think there was you know, MLS when they get

1983
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 11: a star, and we've always kind of talked about them

1984
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 11: being a retirement league. And I told you when he

1985
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 11: came over here, Bernie, he still has a lot enough

1986
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 11: juice in the tank. He could have easily gone anywhere

1987
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 11: he won in Europe. He could have gone back to

1988
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 11: Barcelona if they had the money. You could have stayed

1989
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 11: with PSG. He's out here in the United States and

1990
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 11: he's doing some like tremendous, tremendous stuff even at his age.

1991
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 11: It's not like you're getting someone in the back end.

1992
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 11: You're getting someone still at the tail end of their

1993
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 11: prime and he's proving it every game.

1994
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Chris, Yeah, leadership too. It's clearly that his

1995
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 2: presence alone, in addition to his goal scoring, Messi has

1996
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 2: changed the culture in Miami, all right, Chris. We'll seeing

1997
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 2: about twenty four hours.

1998
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:15,799
Speaker 11: See then, Bernie, it's.

1999
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 2: Chris Purfetts World of Soccer coming up. We wrap up

2000
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 2: the show, we talk about Michael Lorenz and I got

2001
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 2: a couple of other oddball, oddball stats about that no hitter,

2002
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 2: and even Shay had a good one. I'll let him

2003
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 2: chime in as far as tidbitch, you may not know.

2004
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: And I saw a legendary He's not a Hall of Famer,

2005
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 2: but a legendary former major leaguer on the MLB Network

2006
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 2: the other day, and so I cannot resist sharing the

2007
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 2: kind of odd, obscure, idiosyncratic story about this guy that

2008
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 2: you only hear on this show. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're

2009
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,879
Speaker 2: coming to you live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios,

2010
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 2: tyrack dot com. Keep it locked. You're listening to the

2011
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio HI or wrapping

2012
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 2: it up on the Bernie Frattle Show, coming to your

2013
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 2: live from the tyrac dot com studios Fox Sports Radio

2014
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, Nevada. Before I go any further,

2015
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,440
Speaker 2: I want to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles.

2016
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 2: They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific, on Saturday Night,

2017
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Figures on the updates, and of course Mark Ramsey

2018
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: are technical producer and Shay keeping you know, keeping us

2019
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: glued together. Turning on with Dallas. A great job tonight, guys,

2020
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 2: very tight show. Everything clicked, moved right along, and of

2021
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: course we'll see you back on these aero waves Saturday night,

2022
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 2: eleven pm Pacific on an absolute jam pack show. We're

2023
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 2: going to get into our NFC East preview with dive

2024
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 2: more into college football, a quick back look at the

2025
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 2: PAC twelve, more preseason stuff, more Goofy stories. And by

2026
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 2: the way, before I get to this story, I teased

2027
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 2: about a former major leaguer. Shay had a good stat

2028
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 2: about Michael Lorenzo on He's no hitter.

2029
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 10: Shay Hey, Yeah, So on the day that Michael Lorenzen

2030
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 10: threw his no hitter, which I believe was Wednesday, in

2031
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 10: ESPN fantasy leagues for MLB leagues, the amount of people

2032
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 10: that actually had him rostered was that just forty six

2033
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 10: percent under fifty percent of leagues actually had a roster.

2034
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: And we good stuff. We chronicled his his rise the

2035
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 2: last several years and he toiled. But now he's a

2036
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: free agent. So the world is his oyster. One other

2037
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 2: final crazy stat Michael Lorenzen went to Fullerton High School

2038
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 2: in Fullerton, California, which is in North Orange County, not

2039
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: far from Disneyland. He is now the fourth Major league

2040
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: pitcher to throw a no hitter from Fullerton High School.

2041
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 2: The others, of course, Steve Busby, the Kansas City Royals,

2042
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 2: Mike Warren who had a long career, and of course

2043
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,679
Speaker 2: the Big Train Walter Johnson, who pitched a no hitter.

2044
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 2: Fullerton's campus is beautiful. It's an old statue west campus.

2045
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 2: It's very well kept. Imagine that four pitchers they got

2046
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 2: to the major leagues from the high school that all

2047
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 2: threw no hitters. Can't make this stuff off, folks. He

2048
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: can't make this up either. Vince Coleman. You remember Vince Coleman.

2049
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 2: He is the only Major leaguer in history to steal

2050
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 2: north of one hundred bases in three consecutive seasons. Now,

2051
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 2: Ricky Henderson stole a hunter bases in three different seasons

2052
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,879
Speaker 2: of not three consecutive seasons. I love these kind of stories.

2053
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 2: I can't get enough of them, and I bet you

2054
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 2: can't either. See, because Vince Coleman wanted to be a

2055
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 2: football player, but his mom was quite to sink. Vince says,

2056
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,600
Speaker 2: my mother did not want me to play football. She

2057
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 2: did not want me to play wide receiver. His mom

2058
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 2: told him, Vince, if they're not gonna let you punt,

2059
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: then play baseball. Well, Vince wanted to be a football player,

2060
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 2: and in fact, he was on the Florida A and

2061
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 2: M football team. He was the punter and the kicker.

2062
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 2: In his freshman year, they won the one Double A

2063
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 2: Division one Double A that's what it was called back then,

2064
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 2: national championship, and as a freshman kicker, he actually kicked

2065
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 2: three extra points in the championship game. The following year,

2066
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 2: he kicked the winning field goal when Florida A and

2067
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 2: M had the biggest upset in school history by a mile,

2068
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 2: they beat the Miami Hurricanes back in the day. But

2069
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,799
Speaker 2: it gets better. Vince Coleman still agreed to play baseball.

2070
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 2: But he was a walk on on the baseball team

2071
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 2: and at Florida A and M. And believe it or not,

2072
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 2: he played with another famous player by the last name

2073
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 2: of Aaron, Larry Aaron, who happened to be Hank Aaron's son. Well,

2074
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 2: Vince still really wanted to play football, so after graduation,

2075
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 2: he tried out with the Redskins, but they didn't have

2076
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 2: any interest in him being a punter, but he did

2077
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 2: run a forty in four point twenty nine. They kind

2078
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 2: of liked him there, but his mom said, you're not

2079
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 2: playing wide receiver. You're gonna play baseball if they don't

2080
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: let you punt. So the Redskins said, no, you can't punt.

2081
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 2: You ran a four point twenty nine in the forty,

2082
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: you can play wide receiver. So after walking on as

2083
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: a baseball player at Florida A and M and playing

2084
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 2: with Hank aaron Son, you know what happened next. He

2085
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 2: ends up with the Saint Louis Cardinals. He steals forty

2086
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 2: five bases his rookie season in rookie ball goes to

2087
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,640
Speaker 2: single A steals one hundred and forty five bases in

2088
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirteen games. Just unreal, and he kept

2089
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 2: it going when he got to the major leagues. He

2090
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 2: had a long career and the truth of the matter is,

2091
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: Vince still to this day, is a little bumb They

2092
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't let him punt because they thought it would be

2093
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 2: a great story. And here's where the story gets even better.

2094
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 2: The only two black punters at the NFL time, they

2095
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 2: were cousins. If you Minnesota Vikings fans must remember, they

2096
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 2: had a punter by the name of Greg Coleman. He

2097
01:52:56,360 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 2: punted for twelve seasons in the National Football League and

2098
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 2: eleven with the Vikings. But interestingly enough, they both went

2099
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 2: to the same high school, Vince Coleman and Greg Coleman.

2100
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 2: But Vince broke all of Greg's kicking records, so Greg

2101
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 2: becomes the kicker or the punter for eleven years and

2102
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 2: with the Vikings in twelve years in the NFL, which

2103
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 2: is what Vince Coleman wanted to do. But Vince Coleman

2104
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,879
Speaker 2: goes and plays baseball, steals a million bases and obviously

2105
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 2: one of the greatest base stealers of all time. He

2106
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 2: listened to his mom. He did what his mom told him.

2107
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: He got drafted by the Saint Louis Cardinals after a

2108
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 2: scouts saw him one game. And in that game, while

2109
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 2: playing for Florida A and M as a walk on

2110
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 2: for Florida A and M, I saw Vince Coleman steal

2111
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 2: seven bases in one college game. Imagine that your mom

2112
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 2: won't let you play football unless you're a punter a kicker.

2113
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 2: So you kick and punt for Florida A and M.

2114
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 2: You're a part of a national championship team. You're part

2115
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 2: of a team that upsets Miami. You play with Larry Hank,

2116
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 2: Aaron's son as a walkout on the baseball team. After

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Speaker 2: graduation from Florida A and M, he still wants to

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Speaker 2: play football. Tries out with the Redskins, runs the forty

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Speaker 2: and four to two nine, but they don't want him

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Speaker 2: as a punter. And yet his cousin Greg Coleman punted

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Speaker 2: for twelve seasons in the NFL, eleven with the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Vince broke all of his kicking records in high school,

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Speaker 2: but he doesn't get the punt he ends up in baseball.

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Speaker 2: You can't make it up as well as you cannot

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Speaker 2: make up the fact that Michael Lorenzen tossed to noo

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Speaker 2: the other night. Eight days after being traded by the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers. He was in the All Star Game this year,

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Speaker 2: obviously the only All Star to be traded. Throws a

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Speaker 2: no hitter in his first appearance with the Phillies. Home appearance,

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Speaker 2: Steve Busby, Mike Warren Walter Johnson joined by Michael Lorenzen,

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Speaker 2: all four graduates of Fullerton High School to throw a

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Speaker 2: no hitter from the same high school. Lorenzen also through

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Speaker 2: a career high one hundred and twenty four pitches. I

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Speaker 2: joked earlier in the show, it's a good thing David

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Speaker 2: Roberts wasn't managing. He wouldn't have made it past the

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Speaker 2: sixth inning. And that's not necessarily on Roberts. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's the analytics guy, the really smart guy with the

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Speaker 2: suspenders in bow tie, never wore a jock in in

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Speaker 2: front of a computer. You got to come out now. Well,

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Speaker 2: Lorenzen might not have been able to throw that. It's

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Speaker 2: the highest pitch count of any pitcher this entire season.

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Speaker 2: There's only ten players in the last five seasons that

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Speaker 2: have thrown one hundred and twenty pitches. And he had

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Speaker 2: to grind it. Walk five, check that, struck out five,

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Speaker 2: walk four through one hundred and twenty four pitches. This

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Speaker 2: is a guy who's had a very checkered eight years

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Speaker 2: in the major leagues. He was very average last year.

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Speaker 2: The era was four and a half and eighteen starts,

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Speaker 2: but again he made the All Star team only to

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Speaker 2: be traded. And oh, by the way, good news for

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Speaker 2: Michae Lorenzen. He's a free agent. He's a free agent

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year. All right, I'm back

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Speaker 2: on these airwaves Saturday night, eleven PM. We'll have a

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Speaker 2: ton of stuff for you as NFL preseason continues, and

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Speaker 2: will preseason the NFL NFC East, and we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: heavily into college football Saturday Night, as well as some

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Speaker 2: great guests and more stories. It's gonna do it for

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it lock though. Up next,

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Speaker 2: the great Anthony Gargano, Fox Sports Radio,