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Speaker 1: your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. Good morning, Good morning, Good morning. It is guys.

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Speaker 1: It's all of a sudden starting to feel a lot

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Speaker 1: more normal around here in January. News flying about coaching hires,

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Speaker 1: which I was shocked that we got to this stage

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Speaker 1: of January without more news on that front. Looks like

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Speaker 1: the Broncos and Bears are filling their job openings. Sounds

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Speaker 1: like that's going to have an impact on the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, which is amazing timing because it's time to

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Speaker 1: talk Senior Bowl. How y'all doing this morning? I'm doing awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're it. All it takes is one domino to fall,

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Speaker 1: you know. All it takes is that one and once

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Speaker 1: to Denver one. I mean, there's talk about what Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: looking at a situation where he's looking to bring personnel guys.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of a hold up over there. But

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Speaker 1: when you get one, then all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: other ones start to fall. I think the thing is

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So and you know, there's there's reports

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Speaker 1: out there that dan Quinn might be staying with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too deep into that until

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Speaker 1: we've had a chance to work on it a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. But I think what a journalist you are, hey,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't want to sit here

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Speaker 1: in the internet, if anybody knows his stuff, it probably

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Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero. I just don't want to jump the gun.

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Speaker 1: But I just I do think it's interesting because Brian,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we're going to get into talking about

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Speaker 1: these players. Well, I thought dan Quinn had the Denver job.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much. You know what happens at places

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Speaker 1: interesting time of year. How does how could that potentially change?

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Speaker 1: Things for the Cowboys, and again, we don't even know

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Speaker 1: if they're going to go to Mobile. Yeah, but when

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Speaker 1: like that, how does that affect the beginning of this

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Speaker 1: draft process as teams get ready to go down to Mobile. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's two things you can do in Mobile you

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Speaker 1: can take advantage of. If you're a head coach that's

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Speaker 1: looking for staff, you get inundated. You know, you always

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Speaker 1: there's always guys that are kind of scouting. You're out.

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Speaker 1: If you're a team that has openings at running back,

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Speaker 1: offensive line, quarterback, whatever, maybe some new coaches are going

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Speaker 1: to get opportunities to Mattie Refluse guys like that to

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Speaker 1: might not want to go because you have everybody looking

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Speaker 1: then you can't evaluate while you're down there is evaluate

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Speaker 1: the players. So to me, it's really a kind of

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Speaker 1: a twofold. You're there to look at the players, But

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Speaker 1: something that could happen. Yeah, they were looking for that type.

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Speaker 1: love the combine my two favorite places. Fantastic segue into

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Speaker 1: I know this isn't it's not a star studded draft,

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Speaker 1: Pretty Much every good senior outside of maybe Chris Olave

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the evaluation. Phil used to really

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Speaker 1: that said, though, Cowboys first round pick isn't going to

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Speaker 1: what I care about the Senior Bowl Week four is

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Speaker 1: the level of competition is consistent and it's really really good.

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Speaker 1: And college teams like offenses and defensives, they're all very

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. It is the second segment of the Draft Show,

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Speaker 1: which means it's time to take your questions. We got

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Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twenty beautiful. All right.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this before the break. I think this is

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Speaker 1: the type of stuff that fascinates me. Sam wants to know,

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Speaker 1: do you think do you think this will be a

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Speaker 1: harder to predict than usual first round because of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation, Like this doesn't appear to be a year

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Speaker 1: where we're going to be debating four quarterbacks at the

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Speaker 1: top of the round or do you think that narrative

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Speaker 1: is going to change as we get a better look

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Speaker 1: at some of these qbs. I think this will be

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Speaker 1: a hard first round to predict, because, yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: even just the quarterbacks. To me, I think ranking the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman is really hard. Like I think Brian told

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Speaker 1: me the other day what his is and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: not me. I think the offensive tackles the order that

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Speaker 1: they're going to go in, don't know the quarterbacks, who's

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Speaker 1: going to prefer them, how many teams are gonna think

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Speaker 1: one of them's worth the first round pick. Don't know

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Speaker 1: who's the best pass rusher. That's up in the air.

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Speaker 1: How many pass rushers are worth first round pick that's

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Speaker 1: up in the air. There's not a dominant defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: in this draft class that's a pass rusher. Like, there's

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Speaker 1: so many unique things about this draft class that I

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Speaker 1: actually like picking around twenty four. I might like to

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Speaker 1: pick it like nineteen or twenty, but I like picking

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Speaker 1: it twenty four because you get to let everybody else

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Speaker 1: figured out. I'm gonna say a player this, and maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe you would say this every No, no, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: this feels like a year where picking twenty fourth isn't

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Speaker 1: the end of the world. Like that kind of feels

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Speaker 1: like where the sweet spot starts to come into play.

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Speaker 1: Or am I just being biased? No? I think you're

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Speaker 1: right because right up at the top of the draft

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Speaker 1: you have a couple names, But other than that, it's

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Speaker 1: not like it's a eight or nine pick deep where

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Speaker 1: you're hoping a couple of those guys fall. Last year,

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Speaker 1: you were sitting at ten and you were hoping those

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Speaker 1: corners fell, if Patrick's or Tan and JC Horn, you

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Speaker 1: were hoping those guys fell because they were top ten talents,

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Speaker 1: and then of course you up finding Michael Parsons along

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Speaker 1: the way. This year, there's not that deep of a

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Speaker 1: It's deeper than it is top heavy in terms of

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Speaker 1: the draft talent. You have the Hutchinson's up at the top,

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Speaker 1: you have the Thibadeaus, a couple other players probably sprinkled

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Speaker 1: in that mix. But after that it could really go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: It just ends up falling. Now. The other thing I

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Speaker 1: wanted to point out, we've done mock drafts to each

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Speaker 1: of the last two years and going all the way

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Speaker 1: into the third round two years ago, so twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: we got eight of the first ten picks right in

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Speaker 1: our mocks all the way through, so it was pretty predictable. Right.

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Speaker 1: Last year we got the first four picks right and

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Speaker 1: not a single one after that. Yeah, every because as

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Speaker 1: soon as one thing falls everything went to hell. Pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: everything goes completely different direction. And I assume that's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be the case this year. You're probably gonna get

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Speaker 1: maybe the first two or three picks right, and then

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna surprise you by taking a player, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's gonna domino from there on out.

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Speaker 1: I think the unpredictability of the round what's gonna happ

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Speaker 1: up and ahead of you, is going to be in

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Speaker 1: the future of the two New York teams and what

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Speaker 1: happens in Philadelphia. I think those teams are going to

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Speaker 1: dictate what direction this draft goes, just based off of

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Speaker 1: the pure draft capital, just the numbers they have, which

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Speaker 1: and we can throw this back. If you remember Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Tim wanted to know our thoughts on the situation with Philly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have pick fifteen, Pick sixteen, and pick nineteen all

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Speaker 1: ahead of you. What do you think is more realistic?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they draft three guys and hit on them,

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Speaker 1: they could revamp their team in an offseason or knowing

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Speaker 1: how Roseman, do you think it's more likely that they

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Speaker 1: use that capital move around. I kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: that they're going to try and move around a little

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Speaker 1: bit a making three picks, Yeah, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. That's why I said either one or two

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Speaker 1: or he's making eleven. Yeah, I could see the Giants

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Speaker 1: holding in there. I could see the Giants making two picks,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're two picks. I could see the Jets

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Speaker 1: maybe making one of the picks and then trying to

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Speaker 1: move for some more philadel If he is going to move,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is not gonna not gonna sit there. What if

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Speaker 1: they go trade for a quarterback? Well, that's yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean they that's that's that's a possibility there. But I

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Speaker 1: think that this draft completely is going to be not controlled.

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Speaker 1: But when we figure out what the Giants are gonna

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Speaker 1: do again, I think the Giants are going to stay

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Speaker 1: there and pick, you know, the Jets. I think the

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Speaker 1: Jets can be one of those picks new GM though

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Speaker 1: it's not Gettlman who loves the stands now they need players.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna need players that you know. That's what

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Speaker 1: happens when you walk in that building in New York,

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Speaker 1: even if you're a new general manager, whatever, history starts

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Speaker 1: to tell you that you need to we need players.

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Speaker 1: You know our roster, Look at our roster. We need

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Speaker 1: players that kind of like that's teams in cap trouble too.

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Speaker 1: What they carry over Jeff thirteen thousand dollars the other day.

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Speaker 1: They are they are like really top like they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of money committed to such a bad roster. Sure,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. So to me, that's where they're

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Speaker 1: at right now. But this draft will be hard to

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Speaker 1: predict just because of the those picks owned by those

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Speaker 1: three teams. If they move, if they stay, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that teams. I think there's some teams that

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Speaker 1: are locked into committed to looking at quarterbacks. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Davis Mills played better in Houston, kind of

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Speaker 1: gave them a little bit of a better understanding. Depending

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Speaker 1: on who they get it's their head coach is another thing.

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Speaker 1: But to me, you know, the Giants, they're trying to

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Speaker 1: talk themselves into thinking that their quarterbacks good. But they

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Speaker 1: might not double down on it. Yeah, we kind of

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Speaker 1: talk about this thing not being a very good quarterback draft.

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Speaker 1: All it takes is one team believing that that we

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Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about, and that happens a lot.

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Speaker 1: Leo is gonna make this really simple, he says, Pick

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Speaker 1: twenty four, Nakobe Dean or Devin Lloyd, linebacker. Nakobe Deane's

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Speaker 1: linebacker out of Georgia, dev Devin Lloyd from Utah. If

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Speaker 1: you're not familiar, one six foot sixty three and they

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Speaker 1: both play their ass off and they both tackle, they

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Speaker 1: both run, they both finish. You know, if you went

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Speaker 1: either way with those guys, it just depends on what

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Speaker 1: you want. You know, if Dan Quinn stays and you know,

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Speaker 1: with the way the coaching things going right now, you

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Speaker 1: know Dan's really you got really one more team, I

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Speaker 1: think that you have to dodge and you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But you know the Dan Dan's played with shorter linebackers

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Speaker 1: before he has, and after Dion Jones he did, he

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Speaker 1: sure did, so to me, that's you know that I

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Speaker 1: think it's open to either one of those guys. I

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Speaker 1: would be super super happy with it, Just depend on you.

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Speaker 1: One a six foot guy or six three guys. Jeff said,

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Speaker 1: Dean Brian's a coward, Kyle, what do you think? Which

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Speaker 1: which one did you pick? I'll take to Georgia, kid,

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Speaker 1: I have him over that if they we're doing that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I would. He wanted to know

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Speaker 1: which one take Dean as well? But which one do

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Speaker 1: you feel like would pair better with Michael Parsons? Because

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Speaker 1: either one, either one's going to play one. That's what

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Speaker 1: I was trying to till I was called a coward.

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Speaker 1: But either one's fine. It's not fun being antagonized by

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Speaker 1: the host, not at all. Who did you take? If

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Speaker 1: you looked either one? I haven't seen him. I'm sorry, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I've I've watched all of the Draft show. You

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Speaker 1: got to kind of get a watch. I have watched

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Speaker 1: a lot of Nakobe Dean just watching Georgia football. He

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00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: is a very good player. I would like to have

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Speaker 1: him on this team. Nacobe Dean is either like a

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith or if you like more recent names. Watching

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Speaker 1: the Draft show, I think Nakobe Dean is a supercharged

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Speaker 1: Nick Bolton that can blitz sick. That's what I think

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Speaker 1: he is like, yeah, I love like Nick Bolton isn't

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Speaker 1: the athlete that Nakoby Dean is. But Nakobe Dean does

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Speaker 1: the same thing Nick Bolton did a year ago, which

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Speaker 1: is when the ball is snapped, he's the first one moving.

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Speaker 1: He's going the right way every time. And I just

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Speaker 1: again from watching Dean not saying he can like rush

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Speaker 1: the passer the way Mica can. No, but I'd like

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Speaker 1: say in front of him, he's he can live in

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Speaker 1: the backfield and he's done it at the highest level

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Speaker 1: of football, Um, Ruben, which I don't. I'll just throw

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Speaker 1: it to y'all. You tell me. He We talked about

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Speaker 1: this in the first segment. The Cowboys do not really

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Speaker 1: draft small school guys like Louisian Attack and Boise are

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Speaker 1: about as small as they've gone in the Will McClay era.

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Speaker 1: Reuben wants to know, like is that good? Should they

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Speaker 1: be taking a harder look at guys like that? And

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Speaker 1: I think my answer to that would just be I

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Speaker 1: think they do. Like, it's not like they don't look

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Speaker 1: at those guys. They just use school pedigree as a tiebreaker, right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the tiny school thing is, you know how

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Speaker 1: many of those guys are getting drafted. The odds are

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Speaker 1: that any of the thirty two teams aren't going to

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Speaker 1: draft a really small school guy on any given year.

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Speaker 1: So I think it probably is a preference because you're

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Speaker 1: more comfortable watching the level of competition of the bigger

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Speaker 1: school guys. And I think that makes sense for an

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Speaker 1: NFL team because the idea of the draft, I think,

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Speaker 1: or a big part of it, is minimizing risk. You

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Speaker 1: wanted to have the best odds of the dude being

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Speaker 1: able to play in the NFL and help your team

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Speaker 1: as you can. And a great way to minimize risk

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Speaker 1: is to feel better about the tape you saw. So

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Speaker 1: I get it. If there's a small school guy that

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Speaker 1: you love, like I bet Will McClay would pick de

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Speaker 1: Marcus Ware. I bet he would. Yeah, I bet think

620
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Speaker 1: you'd get that right? Yeah? Um? But yeah, it makes

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Speaker 1: sense to lean hard into the bigger schools because and

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Speaker 1: that's why the Senior Bowl is so important. The little

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Speaker 1: school guys. When you line up against Penn State, whoop?

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Speaker 1: How do you line up against Michigan whoop them? That

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Speaker 1: will get an NFL team to go? Okay? I and

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus where DeMarcus where was a Senior Bowl guy, right, Brian, Yes,

627
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Speaker 1: but he smashed it, I bet, but it was great.

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Speaker 1: If Will drafted a small school guy, I bet he'd

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Speaker 1: be a Senior Bowl guy. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: would draft a guy like that purely off college tape.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? The only uh, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: looking at my notes, the only really small school guy

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Speaker 1: that I have that's a Senior Bowl guy in the

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Speaker 1: in the first two rounds is Pinning from north Northern Iowa.

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Speaker 1: That's the only guy I've got. This small school guy. Now,

636
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Speaker 1: I don't know excuse him. I don't know if they

637
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: take him, but that that that's that's Jeff's right. If

638
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: you know he's gotta Pinning's gonna show up and prove.

639
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: You can watch him play against Iowa State and it

640
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: wasn't always pretty. So if he goes out there and

641
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: flops around and stuff like that against some of these

642
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: really good rush ends that I was talking about earlier,

643
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: then that kind of gets you that, well, maybe he's

644
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: not all for this. And I think that does influence

645
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: you when you watch the Senior Bowls stuff. If you're

646
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: a small school guy from a more general general standpoint,

647
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: you might be able to speak better to this, Brian.

648
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: But as a scout than in a scouting department, you're

649
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: always taught don't look at the helmet. Right, Yes, it's

650
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: scout the player, not the team. Sure, but there is

651
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: a level of comfort for a scouting department whenever you

652
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: do have success drafting a certain type of player from

653
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: a certain type of program. Right. Yeah, I was taught

654
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: that he'd better walk on water. If it's a small

655
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: school guy, he'd better walk on water. There's bounce houses

656
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: in the end zone. If there's bounce houses in the

657
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: end zone, you got a shot too. But yeah, I

658
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: mean the guys that walked on water. If you go

659
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: back through history, the guy's like a Jerry Rice, So

660
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, schools like that. You know, Jackson, You know

661
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: that's almost said Tom McNair, McNair for even Steve McNair

662
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: from Alcorn, those guys walked on water. Is walking on

663
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: water only for early round picks or is that throughout there?

664
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I think I think the early round. I think the

665
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: early round pick because you're gonna you're gonna hit on

666
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: a you're gonna hit on if you're lucky, and if

667
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: you draft a small school guy like an Andre Reid

668
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: from you know, Kunstown State or something like that. You know,

669
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Brian shout out our friends on the other side of

670
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: the pond. Yeah they are. I love those guys on

671
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: the other side. They ask you questions. Our buddy, our buddy,

672
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: Lauren from from our UK content. I love, I love

673
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: those folks over there by the way. And I hope

674
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: I hope that the Cowboys, with Jacksonville being on the schedule,

675
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I hope the league comes out and says here just

676
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks that we're all well

677
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: heading back that direction. It'll be a lot of fun

678
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: from your lips to drink. Oh my gosh, yeah, like fish,

679
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that supposedly. Again, I know

680
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: they're football over there. It's it's early days. David A. Jabo,

681
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: the Michigan end, Yeah, is Scottish born. He actually is

682
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Nigerian and lived in s found up in Scotland. Okay,

683
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: gotcha right. Lauren's worried that Randy Gregory is going to leave.

684
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Do we think David Njabo is a realistic candidate in

685
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: the twenty four range? I kind of think that to me.

686
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: We talked about the way I would have it is

687
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: because yes, Calotus Walker and then schools Karloftus is Purdue, right,

688
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: and then Walkers Georgia and then and then a Jabo

689
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: this year talking about is Michigan. I kind of feel

690
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: like that that would be the order I would have

691
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: him in if those three were available. I think Karloftus

692
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: is a hell of a player prom Purdue. I really

693
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: really do Walker. I think Walker's got some ability. I

694
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: kind of like how they move him, have him as

695
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: an end. He could play, he could play inside two

696
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: for you. I think his pass rough stuff is not

697
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: as good as what I would see in Karloftus if

698
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: that was given. I love the way Purdue, in my

699
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: brain is just the epitome of like a six and

700
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: six playing at eleven nam Big ten team, But like

701
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: they've always got a badass or two they knocked out

702
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: if you remember they knocked off they knocked off number

703
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: two Iowa and number three Michigan State last year. There's

704
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: such spoilers in the big They murdered Ohio Ohio State

705
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Yeah, Tyler Coyle from last year too,

706
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent Rondel Moore. Yeah, they got a receiver

707
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: is I can't think of his name right now. I

708
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: don't know if he's in the draft. I think he's

709
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: in this class. David Bell, there we go, Thank you.

710
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: John wants early thoughts on safeties guys that can maybe

711
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: play single high. Kyle Hamilton's obviously the big one. I

712
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: don't know if that's right. I saw a deal where

713
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: he's going to Philadelphia, by the way, on like a

714
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: mock draft. Think it was Bucky Brooks's mock draft. They

715
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: had a run there where they Philadephia dropped to fifteen Philadelphia.

716
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Philadelphia took three guys in a row. I went, oh, damn,

717
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: that's hard for me. One of those deals was it

718
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: was it was Liberom Hamilton. I mean they he had,

719
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: he had all th nineteen was a bad pick. I

720
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: forgot who it was. Any other safeties that you like,

721
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: bad pick besides mister Hamilton. Yeah, do you, Jeff? You

722
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: watched uh you watch the kid from Michigan, didn't you? Yeah?

723
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Daxton Hill. Daxton Hill is a really good player. I

724
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: think Daxton Hill at Michigan is probably a guy that's

725
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere between pick number twenty and picked number

726
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: thirty five or forty. He plays the slot and he

727
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: plays safety for Michigan. He ain't scared of contact in

728
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, and he runs like the wind.

729
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Like like a lot of guys, you don't get a

730
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: perfect picture of the NFL player that he's going to

731
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: be because of how teams use guys in college. But

732
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Daxton Hill is a guy that I think is going

733
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: to offer somebody the versatility to be a one of

734
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: your deep half field safeties, maybe a free safety. Um

735
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: nickel he does on tape. Yeah, but so many college

736
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: guys in the nickel on tape. I want all of

737
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: them to go to the Senior Bowl because so many

738
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: college guys when they play the Nickel on tape, they

739
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: are stand and wait and chase, and I'm like, Okay,

740
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: that kind of coverage ain't gonna work in the NFL.

741
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: But it's kind of what they do where they're just

742
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: like I'm waiting, I'm waiting, I'm waiting. I try to

743
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: touch you and I chase you. But I mean, he's

744
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: got makeup speed for days, Dexton, He'll fly. Yeah. I

745
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: think the thing that's really cool about him, and I

746
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: think Jeff nailed him By the way, that was a

747
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: really good report on him, because to me, you know,

748
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that you can watch him

749
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: and you talk about Chase and they put him in

750
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: the slot and he'll go inside. I think that's if

751
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: you get me a defensive back that could play running

752
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: inside and deny the football. How many times have we

753
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: seen plays, big plays given up inside because the corner

754
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: or somebody can't cover a guy going inside. This guy

755
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: can do that, and I think he did a really

756
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: good job of avoiding penalties, especially when he had to

757
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: go inside and cover. You know, you can get a

758
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: little grabby or come over the back and stuff like that.

759
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: But this guy has got some toughness to him. You

760
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: know when you watch him, when he reads the routes

761
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: and it's all of a sudden the balls come in

762
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: his direction, he's going to tackle, you know. I mean

763
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Michigan State running back, the kid Walker try to run

764
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: over him. It didn't work, he said, technically did fall backward,

765
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: but he but he was not scared. But yeah, yeah,

766
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: that guy hit him. I mean it was a good

767
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: collision there. I thought he was a wrap up tiger,

768
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: so kind of a smart guy. Finished his plays it

769
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: could play in coverage. There's when I first watched him play,

770
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: he was one of the first guys i'd seen play.

771
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: I thought this was Dallas's pick, and I didn't know

772
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: when Dallas was gonna pick. I was thinking Dallas was

773
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna pick at twenty nine or something like that. I

774
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: thought this was I thought this was the guy. I

775
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: thought this was who they were gonna I think they

776
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: have a better shot at doing that now that dan

777
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Quinn could potentially be back then more because he fits

778
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: that system almost well. If they lose all their safeties too,

779
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: that other thing, assuming that, assuming it, and I have

780
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: no reason to doubt Tom Pellicero he knows the stuff,

781
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: but assuming that's true, I'm excited to have some clarity

782
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: about the type of guys we're gonna want to look

783
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: at exactly, and that it'll help us going into Mobile

784
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: next week too, because then we can look at that

785
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: guy and that guy and that guy and say that's

786
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: a dan Quinn guy. Safety. Just my overall thought is

787
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's going to be gone before you're even or

788
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: even close to twenty four. You've got two names, and

789
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: it's Dax Hill and Brisker, who we talked about in

790
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: the first show from Penn State, who will out be

791
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: out at the Senior Bowl, And then to me, there's

792
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: a big drop off before you see the next couple

793
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: guys like Sign from Georgia and McKinley from Oregon, Cross

794
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: from Maryland. There's a significant gap. So maybe if you

795
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: don't take one of those two names and it works

796
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: out to where you even talk about a safety in

797
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: the first round, which with this front office we know

798
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the case, then you're probably not captain

799
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: safety name until three or four. It's Kyle over there

800
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: trying to get captain trade hunter round. Not first you're

801
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: trying to add a pick. Say if you want to

802
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: add a pick, maybe, but we can move this bad

803
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: boy back at I was about to say, keep it

804
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: in like the twenties. I don't want to go out

805
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: of the first round to pick up a safety in

806
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the eighties. I love a good segue. I love a

807
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: good segue. I hate this question, but my job is

808
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: to field the questions that you send me. So Rob

809
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: and you're telling him you hate his question, I do

810
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: his face. I do hate his question. But he wants

811
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: to know if the Cowboys were to trade a Marii

812
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: Cooper this offseason. What kind of compensation do you think

813
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: they could get that. I assume he's asking because you

814
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: would imagine it would help their draft cast. Second round.

815
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: I'll I'll totally guess second round at most at most

816
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: and maybe less age injury issues. I think I think

817
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: the injury history is something that's very relevant here. I

818
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: think his compensation is fair for the player. Right, he's

819
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: a twenty million dollars player. He's a twenty million dollar talent,

820
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: you are, which part of what made him so valuable

821
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: the first time he was traded is very young for

822
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: an NFL VET, And he's still young for a guy

823
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: who's been in the league six seven years, but not

824
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: as young as he was, and he wasn't on a

825
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: huge contract whereas now he is. Yeah, now he's now,

826
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: he's fairly compensated. And I think if you just add

827
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: up that he's a knicked up guy and like we

828
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: can pretend and the Oakland stuff doesn't matter and no

829
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: teams care about it. But even going back to the

830
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: Raiders stuff, I think there's people around the league that

831
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: look at his demeanor and won't be interested. I think

832
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: there's some teams that would just be like, we're not

833
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna give up much. Do you remember people are talking

834
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: about does he even like football? Probably? Is this a

835
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: glass eater? No? Probably unfair in my opinion, but valid,

836
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: Like that's a valid thing that I think. What's unfair

837
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: about it? I just I think that we think he

838
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: loves football. Yeah, but I'm projecting other people's y'all talk

839
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: to Amar every week. I mean, I just wonderful guy

840
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: to talk to because he because he's got a lot

841
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: of other interests. I think I think he's been available

842
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: the entirety of the time that he lines up in

843
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: plays you have trouble getting him the ball? Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah,

844
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper being having a disappointing year this year. I

845
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: do not put on Amari Coop, not at all. I

846
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: don't personally. That's why I still think I think second

847
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: round has to be even though it's the probably the max.

848
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Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't accept anything less, honestly, would you?

849
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: Are y'all interested in doing that? No, not even a

850
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: little bit. I think I'm I'm with you. I think, yeah, no,

851
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: we we've talked about this. No, but you asked the question.

852
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: It was a second round pick, and I think that's

853
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: where we're at. You know, I think the thing. Let's

854
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: be honest though, too, if we went back and did

855
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Speaker 1: and did all our shows from the summertime we were

856
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Speaker 1: all talking about, could this receivering crew all have a

857
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards and all that, I'd say it's probably

858
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: a little disappointing. Yeah, I think all the projections we

859
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: had for this group was disappointing. But do you put

860
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: that on the player? Do you put that on the

861
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff? Players? You do? I mean you a chunk

862
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: of it? Yeah, I mean you can't sit there just

863
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: say that it's all Kellen Moore's fault. You know, you can't.

864
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta blame Dak. You gotta blame the receivers.

865
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: How about availability? He missed three games because he got sick.

866
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: You know, I forgot about that when I said he's

867
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: been available that And I imagine that's something that fresh

868
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: traded the front office, which asolutely they haven't really shied away.

869
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: They have not. I still don't think you make this

870
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: team better by getting rid of your best who I

871
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: think is still your best receiver. Do you feel like

872
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: they use him the right way not right now? Okay,

873
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: but you can you trust anybody across the hall that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it to you? Now, you trust anybody

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Speaker 1: particular moment. I don't feel confident about it. Yeah, but

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921
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: Draft Show before the Senior Bowl gets underway, which, without

922
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: further ado, we talked about this in the first segment

923
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, but just out of curiosity for my

924
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: own sake, let alone anybody listening to this. I would

925
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: love to get y'all's thoughts again on this roster just

926
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: pet cats for lack of a better term. Like I said,

927
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to fall in love with somebody this week.

928
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I still remember thinking Braxton Miller was and his footwork

929
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: of the wide receiver girls was incredible. I thought he

930
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: was gonna be I thought he was gonna take over

931
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: the league. So I can't wait to get hurt again.

932
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: But I just I would love to hear some pet cats.

933
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: So let's just go around the table. Brian. I'll start

934
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: with you. Just give me one or two guys that

935
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: you're really I'm really interested in these defensive alignemen. And

936
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: when you start to talk about Jermaine Johnson, Cam Thomas,

937
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: those guys I mentioned mathis from Alabama, Hall from Houston,

938
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: you know to me that this might be one of

939
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: those kind of those sneaky things, those sneaky needs that

940
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: we like to talk about. If things whatever happens with

941
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: your defensive tackle situation, whatever happens with Brandy, what happens

942
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: with the cap with uh, say, you know with Tank.

943
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: You know they might be looking at at twenty four

944
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: and keeping a really broad open mind about hey, best player.

945
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: But these these edge players, I think there's quite a

946
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: few of them. And I do I do love the kid,

947
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: I do love Johnson, and I do I do like

948
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: Cam Thomas myself. So keeping on that, I know Sanders

949
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: as a kid at a Cincinnati that has got some

950
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: interest from some folks. So it's got a pretty good

951
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: little flavor of defensive lineman. So that's a position I'm

952
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: going to kind of be focusing on overall. Cam Thomas

953
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: out of San Diego State. Yeah, writing that down, Yeah,

954
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: he's a good when to look at. He'll be he'll be.

955
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen is he's gonna go on. You'll see

956
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: him in the one on one stuff and he's got

957
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: a guy it's probably gonna be winning quite a bit

958
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: because he's kind of a slippery, but like really good technician,

959
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: slap hands, rip, you know, pull that kind of guy.

960
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: So I have a feeling he'll be able to break

961
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: some of these tackles down. Kyle, what do you got?

962
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: I've got a couple guys and I tweet it out

963
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: a list of five last night that I was excited

964
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: to watch, and apparently three of those guys may not

965
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: actually play this week, So pretty disappointing. Yeah, it was disappointing.

966
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: I've got some late later round guys that I kind

967
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: of want to look that may have a chance to jump,

968
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: one of which is a Dallas guy, Reggie Robertson Junior.

969
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: He's fun, he's very fun, great hands, he can high

970
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: point the football, makes catching traffic. He's a good route runner.

971
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him go up against these bigger

972
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: corners and guys that are able to challenge him from

973
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: a speed and a physical standpoint, and I think he's

974
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: got a chance to jump. There was another SMU guy,

975
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Danny Gray, that'll be a part of the Senior Bowl.

976
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: But I'm really keeping my eyes on Robertson, who's been

977
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: at SMU for quite some time. I feel like I

978
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: was calling games of his back in like twenty eighteen

979
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: when I was in school. Still so in school in

980
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Let's not talking about it. I would say,

981
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: I would say outside of that, I want to see

982
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: some of these. Of course, offensive interior lineman Zion Johnson

983
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: who brought brought us brought up the other day Leviticus

984
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: Smith or no, wait, I said that first name wrong,

985
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: Letitia Leedicus. I don't know how about if you I

986
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Speaker 1: want you to know, the odds are you're going to

987
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: be the pronunciation and I haven't gotten to this point. Yeah,

988
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: that's why I'm excited to see him. Uh Stuber from Michigan,

989
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: which I think I said his name wrong too, Spencer

990
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: Burford from ut Utsa offensive lineman heavy this week, and honestly,

991
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: I think the one on one drills of the trenches

992
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: is going to be where I'm planted for the majority

993
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: of the week. Jeffrey, what do you got? I have

994
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: four names that when I was looking over the rosters

995
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: this morning, are really really interesting to me. I love

996
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: Baylor safety Jalen Petrie, but I have no idea if

997
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: he can cover. As I said earlier, um, but he

998
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: is like the leader of a pack of rabid dogs

999
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: on that Baylor defense. You watch them play and you're like,

1000
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, everybody out there is trying to break

1001
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: people on every play. Miranda, I miss you, Dave Randa. Yeah,

1002
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: and Jalen Petrie played the nickel, but a lot of

1003
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: times he walks down and plays the edge, and he

1004
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: like he doesn't mind wrestling offensive lineman. Like, so he's

1005
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: a quote nickel that will hold the edge against offensive tackles.

1006
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: You're kind of describing Jeron Curse a little bit. Maybe

1007
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: he's a much smaller version six foot and I don't know,

1008
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: two hundred, maybe like Winfield at all from Tampa. No,

1009
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: because Winfield was a single high. I don't know if

1010
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Peatri can cover, so That's why I'm interested. I want

1011
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: to see neither kid. Winfield, if you watched him play

1012
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: the other day, I mean Winfield plays down, Winfield play

1013
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: single high. He was good in college. Yeah, I haven't

1014
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: been keeping close tabs on him in the pros. And

1015
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: he got run by the other day. I think Petrie

1016
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: is probably he's in football called a zero blitz in

1017
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: a and they trusted him, and they trusted him to cover.

1018
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: That was their fault. Yeah. Kobe Bryant Cincinnati's other corner. Yes,

1019
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: I watched him last night. Sauce Gardner's gonna get all

1020
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the headlines, and rightfully so, because he is the best

1021
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: corner on that team. But Kobe Bryant was a fifth

1022
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: year senior that took advantage of the extra year you

1023
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: could play because of the COVID deal. And he's another

1024
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: big old corner that when they let him step up

1025
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: in front of people and play press and when they

1026
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: when he gets to play man that way, you're like,

1027
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: holy cow, there's something there. So Kobe Bryant Cincinnati corner.

1028
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: And two defensive tackles that I think are interesting for

1029
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Fidarian mathis at Alabama and Davante Wyatt at

1030
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: Georgia or two guys, I haven't seen Wyatt yet. Why

1031
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: it's funny because he's six three three fifteen and so

1032
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: to most people, you'd hear that and you'd be like, oh,

1033
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: one technique. Well, he played at Georgia where they had

1034
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: him three hundred and sixty pound one technique, so he

1035
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: was the three. And his get off at that size

1036
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: it's really good. Like the stats aren't great, but the

1037
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: tape when you see a play where he has the

1038
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: opportunity to hey, we're attacking on this play, you can

1039
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: get off the ball. Devantae Wyatt at six three, three

1040
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: fifteen has an awesome get off. You know what you

1041
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: mentioned about and you mentioned Matthis from Alabama. I wouldn't

1042
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: be surprised if he's the highest rated one technique over Davis.

1043
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: I know, I know Davis, everybody's That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

1044
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Davis is really more of a of a two down player.

1045
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: And I bet you that Matthis on people's board is

1046
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: going to be higher than Davis. What do you what

1047
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: do you think Davis's range is? Because I know, like

1048
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: people are enamored and I'm not trying to like dis

1049
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: his ability as a player, he's great, Okay, Like I

1050
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: wonder how much that rant, like his limitations as a

1051
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: two down guy will affect his draft stock. Is there

1052
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: anybody okay, say, for example, if he's on the board

1053
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: and it's Davis, Dean, it's maybe it's Dean. Is there

1054
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: any body that you would take him over? Like, okay,

1055
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: say it was say Dean and Lloyd got knocked out

1056
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: of here was one of these corners that would be

1057
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: on the board, one of the safeties that were on

1058
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: the board, one of the wide receivers on the board.

1059
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: I have a lot of people so far that I

1060
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: would take over Jordan Davis. See, that's what I'm saying.

1061
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Trayvon Walker, George Karlofta's seat defensive end.

1062
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: I could just I mean, I think take my exercise

1063
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: right now is a lot of people are going to

1064
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: ask us about Davis. Yeah, and there's a lot of guys.

1065
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you is there's a lot

1066
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: of guys at twenty four that we would take over Davis.

1067
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: So I'm straight up think he'll probably be a second

1068
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: round pick if I had to guess right today. And

1069
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: that's I just it's interesting. His his his tag. He

1070
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: to me like Jeff's talking about he said eighteen. He

1071
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: might be that last guy you have in the first round.

1072
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: If you have nineteen or twenty names in the first

1073
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: round like you traditionally, do you know, he would be

1074
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: the probably the guy with the grade of one one nine,

1075
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: that last guy where one where one two O would

1076
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: be the first player in the second round. He might

1077
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: be the one one nine guy. Is he the most

1078
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: high profile nose tackles since Vita Vea or am I

1079
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: forgetting anybody? No, because everybody else is pretty much three

1080
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: technique and it was Alabama Cats the football team has

1081
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: those guys. Are all all those Obama guys like your

1082
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: pains and your Allan's, and they're super freaks. They're not

1083
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: even there. They are just monster freaks. I don't even

1084
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: know if you're talking about three fifty sixty pound guys. Basically,

1085
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: if you guys like the Georgia defensive tackles this year,

1086
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: there's one that Georgia that'll be here next year. Yeah,

1087
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: that's eight times better than both of Jaylen Carter's a

1088
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: freak show. Well, let's worry about that. In January, Jaylen Carter.

1089
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: I trade my first round pick right now and my

1090
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: second round pick it's to Jalen Carter next year. Wow,

1091
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: I'll give up my one in my two turn in

1092
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: the card already. Yes, I love it. Keep in mind

1093
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: that that's coming from Captain trade down. Yeah, that's true.

1094
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: Could I throw one more name out there for Senior Yeah,

1095
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: to Rik Woolen Corner from UTSA and I hate mad people. Yeah.

1096
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: I had a couple of people that tweeted me about

1097
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: him because I have Conference USA, because of the ESPN

1098
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: stuff and whatever. Yeah, he didn't get to play in

1099
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: the game that I called of UTSA this year, but

1100
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: I watched this tape. They call him Reek the freak

1101
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: six foot four, two hundred and five pounds, switched to

1102
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: cornerback for two seasons and automatically was the best corner

1103
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: in the conference. And that wouldn't really I mean, it's

1104
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Conference to USA, so there's a limitation there. But he

1105
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: is just a freak of a player, and he's going

1106
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 1: to be at the Senior Bowl. I think he could

1107
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: go from being a fourth round guy, fifth round guy

1108
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: to maybe being in the conversation of day like early

1109
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: day two, maybe six, five, six because Dan Quinn. Yeah, Quinn,

1110
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what I wanted to bring it

1111
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: up about. Because ty his shoes standing straight up. Let's go.

1112
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: I think playing corner for two seasons, he's better than

1113
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: Nashan Wright is right now then, I mean that's kind

1114
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: of a bold statement, but me too. Yeah. Two shout

1115
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: at a guy for no reason, and I apologize just now.

1116
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: I have a bad habit of doing this, like because

1117
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: I can't think of a position that's less interesting to

1118
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But I do really like Tyler Batty, the

1119
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Missouri running back. He's he's he's like, he's gonna be

1120
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: a headliner down here, right, I mean he's like, all

1121
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: sec hmm. Maybe give me James Cook. Yeah, James Cook's

1122
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna be him there? Can I pick him? Or Bryan

1123
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: Robinson from Alabama and Brian Roberts a good player. Ryan

1124
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Robinson came on real strong. Abraham Smith from Baylor. I've

1125
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: only looked at one. I've only looked at one running

1126
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: back in the Strap so far, and it's Walker from

1127
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: from Michigan State. It's not something that I think you

1128
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: need to worry about. At least, no, I'm going to

1129
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: do because you're gonna have to pull your board together.

1130
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see when they But to me,

1131
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, if if you could find

1132
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: the guy that can I can do all three? That's

1133
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: always the trick. You know, can he run block? Can he?

1134
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: You know? Catch? I think in this day and age two,

1135
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: catching is really really really important. You know who is

1136
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl? Who's that Tony Pollard? Mhmm, yeah,

1137
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: So I mean like that it's easy to open. Look,

1138
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: your left guard might be at the Senior Bowl. Who's

1139
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: that at Ingram the LSU guard? Darian Kinnard Kentucky guard.

1140
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: Your left guard might be at the Senior Bowl. Maybe

1141
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: you're the fourth linebackers at the Senior Bowl, Kway Walker

1142
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: and Channing Tendall, the Georgia guys. How does this? How

1143
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: will that? So you're gonna watch You're gonna have the

1144
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: access to the tape of this later, right, sure? How

1145
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: does this inform what you do later? Like? Do you like,

1146
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 1: are you gonna circle some of these names that stand

1147
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: out next week and like focus in on those guys?

1148
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, I've already kind of started looking at some

1149
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: of these guys just because I know we were having

1150
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: the show and then Monday or Tuesday, Jeff and I'll

1151
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: come in here while your guys are on the road

1152
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: and have a show hopefully. And we have to know

1153
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: about these guys. Yeah, I think it's important that you know.

1154
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: I just want to get an idea of how they

1155
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: play and then how does that translate to the game,

1156
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: because they might not have a lot of reps, but

1157
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: if you see them, you know, kind of flash. I

1158
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: guess that's my point is And Bradley and I did

1159
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: this two years ago. Yeah, I mean he was like

1160
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: the MVP the tour up Tarrant Steele. I guess I

1161
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: do not remember Steele being at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

1162
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: Texas Tech left tackle. It just got destroyed. That's fun. Yeah,

1163
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: But I guess that's my point though, is like whatever

1164
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: happens in this game probably affect your priorities coming out

1165
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: of it, just in terms of like who you want

1166
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: to look at. I think it always when you play

1167
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and you know that they've been coached

1168
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: by watching the drill, It's not true. Game doesn't matter.

1169
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: That's not true. I mean for our purposes, Yeah, but

1170
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: like the game does matter. Bradley and I jumped out

1171
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: that was the MVP of the Senior Bowl. Win was

1172
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: the MVP of the Senior Bowl. He was on the

1173
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: opposite team of Garrett and them. See, it's we're nagging.

1174
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Those guys do a great job where like they do

1175
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: they put these teams. Might coach the Jets if he

1176
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: put some players to their needs, which team needs what

1177
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: would Yeah, he tries to help these coaches out for

1178
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, for coaching the game. Hell, I'm gonna get

1179
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: you a look or two of these guys. You know,

1180
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: I think that's a smart thing. I just realized we're

1181
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to hang out with Dan Campbell. Yep,

1182
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: that's exciting. Yeah, find some kneecap biters. Yeah. Whoever's coaching

1183
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: the national team appears to be the team that would

1184
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: be interested in offensive line because they got Zion Johnson.

1185
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: But that's the Jets. That's the Jets. Salo and company. Yeah,

1186
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: they got the Minnesota Tackle. Two really good head coaches

1187
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: in terms of personalities, but could not be more different,

1188
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: which will be fun. Yeah, I mean, I guess I

1189
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: don't know Robert Salo's personality. He seems kind of reserve.

1190
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna say he seems very low key. I know

1191
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: everything I need to know about Dan. Campbell's gonna have

1192
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: some fun. I love Dan Campbell too. I'm interested to

1193
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: see the contrast in the two practices and see if

1194
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: there's just the way that Yeah, yeah, Campbell's will be

1195
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: more violent. I would imagine so like bowl in the

1196
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: ring and stuff like that, break every rule. I doubt

1197
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: that very much, but we'll see. And that's all the

1198
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: time we have. So yeah, we're gonna well, we'll figure

1199
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: out what next week's gonna look like. Kyle and I'll

1200
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: be somebody in here. We'll be doing Kyl and I

1201
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: will be in mobile. Brian and Jeff will be here.

1202
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: We'll find a way to make it works. Yeah, we

1203
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: will have plenty of Senior Bowl content and other draft

1204
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: content coming your way next week. Thanks for joining us.

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