Speaker 1: And that's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Welcome to When That's what you Really miss podcast. Kevin,
Speaker 3: It's Crewe Day, It's crew Day Day, Ride Today. I
Speaker 3: just love it because when our crew comes on, it
Speaker 3: feels like family reuniting that haven't seen each other in forever.
Speaker 3: And then also like they just have so many stories
Speaker 3: to tell, and I feel like because you weren't there,
Speaker 3: like it's it's really the people who know who were
Speaker 3: there can really fully understand it. It's that moment of reconnection. Yes,
Speaker 3: you get So this is really exciting.
Speaker 2: The moving parts obviously, like Glee was a bohemoth of
Speaker 2: a production to accomplish every day, and to have these
Speaker 2: two on today, phil and jen Palmer, which is so cute.
Speaker 2: They have their romantic relationship from the show. They worked
Speaker 2: in different departments and did so much incredible work on
Speaker 2: the show, and like Jenna said, their family and so
Speaker 2: excited for us to talk about their relationship and their
Speaker 2: work because they're just some of the nicest, most talented,
Speaker 2: wonderful people. So enjoy our conversation with Philip and Jennifer.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is kind of like our our nightly FaceTime
Speaker 4: when we're in different areas of the world.
Speaker 2: Crazy and now we get to just have a peak
Speaker 2: of the beautiful relationship that.
Speaker 5: Started on Glee.
Speaker 1: Crazy. We're going to talk all about that.
Speaker 2: First of all, thank you both for being here, like
Speaker 2: two of our favorite people.
Speaker 1: Very hard to coordinate with lots of schedules.
Speaker 3: You guys are married yet on in different locations currently
Speaker 3: and preppy for things and working on things, and it's.
Speaker 5: Sort of the story of our life. Really.
Speaker 4: We we we we kind of have to coordinate where
Speaker 4: we're going to be.
Speaker 5: We have a we have a little.
Speaker 4: Bit of a rule that we try and not to
Speaker 4: spend more than three weeks apart.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good.
Speaker 3: It could probably get really easy to actually spend more
Speaker 3: time apart than that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's pretty intentional about it.
Speaker 5: You have to you have to plan it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so smart. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: Let's back it up, rewind.
Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, could you introduce yourselves and say what you
Speaker 2: did on Glee.
Speaker 6: I'm Jennifer Music for Palmer. I am a set costumer.
Speaker 6: I took care of half of the kids and everybody else.
Speaker 6: I came in season two and was there until the end.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm Philip Palmer. Uh and I
Speaker 4: was the was and I still am a production sound mixer,
Speaker 4: and I was part of the show from the jump.
Speaker 4: I was there on the pilot and uh, I missed
Speaker 4: two episodes in the middle because of a weird conflict
Speaker 4: and then made it all the way to the end
Speaker 4: real quick.
Speaker 2: That's crazy that show starting to like And here's an
Speaker 2: Emmy for you, sir, immediately, Yeah, deserved, by the way.
Speaker 3: Many questions about so many things. Where do we even begin?
Speaker 3: It's like separately and then together, there's just a.
Speaker 2: Lot let's go ically, Yeah, let's Philip, when you got
Speaker 2: the gig? Like what what was that call?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What was that like for you?
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I got a call from a a person
Speaker 4: that I used to play on a softball team with.
Speaker 2: And you never know who's gonna get you the job.
Speaker 4: Never know, honestly, and uh he he knew that I
Speaker 4: had I was a sound mixer, and that I probably
Speaker 4: had some music, uh sort of playback history, which is
Speaker 4: what we do when we, uh, when we do a
Speaker 4: musical on on film and television. And he called and said,
Speaker 4: I'm about to do this show with some people that
Speaker 4: have never done a musical before, and it's all music.
Speaker 4: I laughed, and I was on a movie at the time,
Speaker 4: and we and it worked out that we we finished
Speaker 4: the we finished shooting in the movie, and then I
Speaker 4: rolled my equipment over basically to almost to to UH
Speaker 4: to where we were going to do the uh the
Speaker 4: the pilot, which we was not on stage.
Speaker 5: We shot it all over the place that's right, and the.
Speaker 4: You know, the the auditorium and much of the school
Speaker 4: was sort of spread out over like three different schools.
Speaker 2: It was like Burbank and Long Beach, And so we did.
Speaker 4: The pilot, which took us about a month to do
Speaker 4: the pilot, and none of us really had any.
Speaker 5: I never met Ryan until day one.
Speaker 2: Literally, that's crazy, because how vital what you do for
Speaker 2: that show on a day to day base Like every
Speaker 2: everybody is vitals from the show on a day to
Speaker 2: day basis. But like you said, doing playback, doing sound
Speaker 2: for a musical seems like an integral part of a musical.
Speaker 5: Not a meeting, not a single meeting.
Speaker 4: And so we were all huddled in this It was
Speaker 4: sort of a class room. I think it was in Burbank,
Speaker 4: And the first scene we shot was Shuster sliding the
Speaker 4: envelope of of right, the weed, the weed, that's right,
Speaker 4: yeah to Corey. And that was and so I hear
Speaker 4: a person sort of directing that must be Brian. Oh
Speaker 4: that's how I's that's how I met Ryan.
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my gosh, that's so crazy. I imagine.
Speaker 3: A kind of like made up your own rules of
Speaker 3: like people came to you or like, so, how does
Speaker 3: this work? How are we going to do this? And
Speaker 3: they look to you. Had you come up with a
Speaker 3: plan or was it this kind of like flying by
Speaker 3: the seat like.
Speaker 1: The your pant? What is the saying thank you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I had Donald quite a bit of playback and things before,
Speaker 4: so I kind of knew what we had to do.
Speaker 5: But no one else did.
Speaker 4: And so and I think the first musical thing we
Speaker 4: did was brock in the boat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4: This was funny. So I got the you know, the
Speaker 4: play that was before we could download things.
Speaker 5: This is a while ago, everybody, and.
Speaker 4: So right before we got there that they come to
Speaker 4: me with a you know, a CD uh a disc
Speaker 4: of Well, here's the tracks.
Speaker 5: I was like, great, and.
Speaker 4: We loaded them up and and and everything, and then
Speaker 4: I remember for the rehearsal, you hadn't nobody had. We
Speaker 4: didn't do any like we ran through it one time
Speaker 4: and we rolled the cameras, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, much for everything.
Speaker 4: And yeah, so I had the speakers in there, and
Speaker 4: Ryan's in there, and.
Speaker 5: I forget who our first d D was at that
Speaker 5: point in time, but it.
Speaker 4: Was Danny Danny Silverbrig and Danny looked at me and
Speaker 4: I went, it's it's okay, I'm good.
Speaker 5: And then it was action.
Speaker 4: We hit play and you guys did the thing, and
Speaker 4: then it was cut and then I looked around and
Speaker 4: and Ryan and everybody went, I guess that's how we're
Speaker 4: doing our show. And it literally was like discovery for everyone.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: And when on the pilot when we figured out, I
Speaker 4: mean they had Ian had a plan and they all
Speaker 4: kind of had a thing. But when I saw what
Speaker 4: the show was going to be, what was when you
Speaker 4: all were sitting in the h in the seats for
Speaker 4: vocal Adrenaline and then then they did the vocal Adrenaline number.
Speaker 5: And in your faces and I went that's our show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where we're like, wow.
Speaker 1: What a moment.
Speaker 2: How cool. We always talk about how because we were
Speaker 2: all so green and all of you were, you know,
Speaker 2: experts veterans. Yeah, and then our gauge during that time
Speaker 2: was your guys' reactions to things and so like you
Speaker 2: were all so nice and so encouraging from day one,
Speaker 2: and we're like, is this good? Is this a thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, I.
Speaker 2: Think this is good. Like, okay, if you think this
Speaker 2: is good, then it feels like it's good. But I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: But we didn't know.
Speaker 3: Enough to be like, oh, this is our sound person.
Speaker 3: This is like asking them how it works. You know,
Speaker 3: like we just we were just kind of going along
Speaker 3: with what everybody was telling us to do and hit
Speaker 3: a mark and say your line, and you know, do
Speaker 3: these things and do these moves. So everybody was, I
Speaker 3: feel like, kind of all in it together. Yeah, which
Speaker 3: is interesting that Jen came on in season two because
Speaker 3: the roller coaster had already we were already at the top.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to hear from your perspective.
Speaker 2: Because we were little monsters by then you got.
Speaker 3: The job, and then what your experience is like coming
Speaker 3: into the Monsters.
Speaker 2: A lot of Philip, like, they didn't used to be
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 5: We know we started dating the end of season.
Speaker 2: That's free, guys.
Speaker 1: You had no intel.
Speaker 6: So I came in. I interviewed for the job the
Speaker 6: first time, sitting on the floor in Barnes and Noble
Speaker 6: on the third Street promenade.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I was a phone interview with Marisa Aboities
Speaker 6: who was our supervisor at the time, and Lou I
Speaker 6: reg And then a couple days later I went into
Speaker 6: the office and sat with lou and Marisa again and
Speaker 6: interviewed for a little bit longer. But I just remember,
Speaker 6: because I wasn't there for first season, I watched it
Speaker 6: as a fan, and I would remember coming in. I
Speaker 6: was working, I think, I was working on I don't know,
Speaker 6: the New Class, I think, and I would come into
Speaker 6: work every morning after the show and we would all
Speaker 6: stand there and be like, how did they do that?
Speaker 6: Shoot that show in eight days? Like basically, how.
Speaker 2: Did they do that?
Speaker 3: We did that?
Speaker 6: We didn't I didn't know that. So then I go
Speaker 6: in and I get this job, and I'm very excited
Speaker 6: because I like singing and dancing and running around with
Speaker 6: people and My first day was uh, New York at Bernstein.
Speaker 6: That was my first day on Man.
Speaker 5: That was first day of season two.
Speaker 6: First day of season two was it Burns.
Speaker 2: It was first day of season two, first day because
Speaker 2: I remember how I felt in the trailer like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're doing this. The show's a hit, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: like we're doing a big number. It felt different.
Speaker 1: That was a big one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was huge. And I'm standing there and I'm
Speaker 6: like and like Phil said, they just yelled action and
Speaker 6: everybody just ran and did their thing, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: so this is how we do this. Okay.
Speaker 1: Was it chaotic for you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: It was because it was like especially, I mean that number.
Speaker 6: You guys were essentially all in the same outfits, but
Speaker 6: like we had to cut Amber's neck out of our shirt,
Speaker 6: and we had to, you know, do all the individual
Speaker 6: things to everybody's shirts, like.
Speaker 2: The characterizations to the album.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all this the thing. We had to make sure
Speaker 6: that Johnnah had you know, ninety two had gone lids,
Speaker 6: and Amber had her shirt and seventy five jelly bracelets
Speaker 6: and yah, you know, Lea's was perfectly fitted to her body,
Speaker 6: and everybody just had their own little as as Jess
Speaker 6: would call them their own little nannies that we had
Speaker 6: to get everything ready, and then we just kind of
Speaker 6: checked y'all out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I just stood there and I was like, okay, so
Speaker 6: this is my job.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, let's go. Well, there's just so many of us,
Speaker 1: so like for people who don't.
Speaker 3: Know, like, for what you do, you're literally waiting in
Speaker 3: the wings for every take. In between every take, you're coming,
Speaker 3: you're adjusting, you're fixing before we go on set. You're
Speaker 3: making sure we have all of our ninnies and nunnies
Speaker 3: and things like that you have, and then making sure
Speaker 3: the continuity is right from scene to scene and making
Speaker 3: sure we had the same ring on the same nail
Speaker 3: polish color. So like, there's just so many intricate details
Speaker 3: that like, people don't realize that you guys are the
Speaker 3: ones responsible for in theory, even though we go off
Speaker 3: and get our nail polish chain and that's not your
Speaker 3: you're not guilty, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So we take a week off and somebody goes and
Speaker 6: gets super tan.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: When people ask me what my job is, I tell
Speaker 6: them that I'm a glorified mom because your guys room
Speaker 6: every morning, and then I scream at you to get dressed,
Speaker 6: and then I chase you all around all day and
Speaker 6: pick up the pieces that you've dropped, and yell at
Speaker 6: Paul Crafty for serving tomato chili and you're wearing white coats,
Speaker 6: and find all your things when you lose them, and
Speaker 6: up all of your spills. And then I yelled your
Speaker 6: shoes on, put your pajamas on, and then you know,
Speaker 6: pick your clothes up. It's so only a couple off
Speaker 6: the floor and put them on.
Speaker 2: You described the first day where it is sort of chaos,
Speaker 2: and then it just happens like both of you in
Speaker 2: every department is operating like their own little world inside
Speaker 2: of a hurricane. Yes, And it's like all this stuff
Speaker 2: is flying around you and you're just like, I'm going
Speaker 2: to do my task and just show up. Both of
Speaker 2: you are always so calm. I don't know how like
Speaker 2: either of you would do it like I don't.
Speaker 6: There was.
Speaker 5: There was. I certainly lost my ship a couple of times.
Speaker 5: We all did.
Speaker 2: We all did.
Speaker 4: But honestly that that crew was so unified and so
Speaker 4: good yes to bottom that it did. I think I
Speaker 4: of the hurricane is kind of like what you see.
Speaker 4: Like when people would visit, they were like, what are
Speaker 4: y'all doing? Because everybody's doing all this stuff, and then
Speaker 4: it kind of starts to slow down, and then it stops,
Speaker 4: and then we do the thing and then the hurricane
Speaker 4: starts again. Right, So true, and so that's kind of
Speaker 4: what sort of our life is like, that's what you know.
Speaker 4: But when somebody comes from the outside, they see it
Speaker 4: and they feel like, you kid.
Speaker 1: Even yeah, it seems like an impossible task. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you finally when showed up and you finally
Speaker 2: got to see how the sausage was made, we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: never mind, I would rather not know how this is done.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I was so I was so shocked
Speaker 6: that you just it was just like, I mean, we
Speaker 6: always joke that like one day we'll get on a
Speaker 6: real show where it seems like there's a plan and
Speaker 6: everybody knows, you know, there's never a plan. There's always
Speaker 6: this ages of a plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, structure.
Speaker 6: You know, we just kind of went out and did
Speaker 6: it and then it was, you know, sixteen hours later
Speaker 6: we were going home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then you realized, oh, we're on day nine.
Speaker 6: Of eight, day ten, and a half.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, she was warned about me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's get into this because you know, here's
Speaker 2: the thing. The point of this podcast really is to
Speaker 2: talk about you know, in the public and the media,
Speaker 2: you hear about all the bad things and people don't
Speaker 2: know about the incredible things that happened on the show.
Speaker 2: And one of those things is your guys' relationship. So
Speaker 2: take us back, what happened? How did this happen?
Speaker 6: Say what? So?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Like you when you start a new job, there's a
Speaker 6: couple of departments that you always make friends with. Like
Speaker 6: I always make friends with the guy that drives my
Speaker 6: truck because I need to know where we're going and
Speaker 6: what time, and it makes friends with the craft service
Speaker 6: people because they're going to feed me. And then I
Speaker 6: make friends with the sound department because I need them
Speaker 6: to be my friend when yes, Naya's where a teeny
Speaker 6: tiny dress and I need to be there while they're
Speaker 6: getting wired or when you know whatever, somebody has a
Speaker 6: finicky tie or somebody just doesn't like to be wired
Speaker 6: or whatever. So I always go and make friends with
Speaker 6: the sound apartment. So I was talking to our trailer
Speaker 6: person Jessica Pasternick, who was in the background a minute
Speaker 6: ago and says hello, but I will.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 6: But so I was talking to her like, you know,
Speaker 6: I need you to introduce me to the sound people,
Speaker 6: and she's like, oh, so, I mean they're great. Our
Speaker 6: sound mixer kind of hates us because of Jenna's bubble
Speaker 6: dress last season.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's my fat I'll never stop telling
Speaker 3: this story.
Speaker 6: So and I think I think you've talked about it
Speaker 6: on this show, with the little plastic bubbles and how
Speaker 6: every time she moved they clicked and I do remember.
Speaker 2: Still running out during that.
Speaker 1: Something me.
Speaker 6: So that was like halfway through last season, and last
Speaker 6: season was like a year and a half ago by
Speaker 6: this point. I'm like, it's gonna be all right. And
Speaker 6: I walk in and I find my spot and I
Speaker 6: you know, Ark shows me where to set up and everything,
Speaker 6: and I walk over and uh, I walk over and
Speaker 6: I introduced myself and I was like, you know, I
Speaker 6: I'm Jennifer. I'm going to be the set person this year.
Speaker 6: And he was like, great, as long as we don't
Speaker 6: have another bubble dress, should be fine. And I'm like
Speaker 6: to me, that was our first interaction.
Speaker 2: Wow, that bubble dress lives on to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it brings me so much joy and so much
Speaker 3: pets be at the same time.
Speaker 2: Something that came out of it, Jenna.
Speaker 6: True God was so funny.
Speaker 2: Wow, how I meant, how does courtship work in this situation?
Speaker 2: Because you know, it's a little it's like a small town.
Speaker 1: It's closing and people are talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, well, we.
Speaker 6: Didn't actually, we didn't start any anything at all until
Speaker 6: wrap after second season, and she was a summer of love, some.
Speaker 5: Of love and some of American horror story.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, the pilot.
Speaker 6: So but we were wrapping Glee and it was right
Speaker 6: before you guys, so you finished season two on the
Speaker 6: show and then you all immediately went to Las Vegas
Speaker 6: tour tour.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we were and a bunch of people were
Speaker 6: going to Las Vegas for your first show and then
Speaker 6: fell kinds on the on the trailer, which is unusual,
Speaker 6: but not out of the realm of possibility, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So he was, you know, talking to us, and then
Speaker 6: he asked me if I wanted to go grab a coffee.
Speaker 6: I was like, well, that's weird, but sure, I like coffee.
Speaker 6: So we went over to the coffee bean on the lot.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he knew that I.
Speaker 6: Was one of the people that was going to Las
Speaker 6: Vegas to like see you guys, and he had an
Speaker 6: extra ticket to the show. And I wasn't planning on
Speaker 6: going to the show. I was just going to go
Speaker 6: to the after party with everyone. But so you did
Speaker 6: first date?
Speaker 2: No, No, was your.
Speaker 6: Guys' opening night of the door?
Speaker 2: This is what Lehanna was singing about, was or.
Speaker 6: The insuing after party.
Speaker 2: Was riven?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, my Now we did the pilot together.
Speaker 5: And a horror story.
Speaker 6: The rest is history history.
Speaker 2: You can love. At the Glee tour, everyone you hear that.
Speaker 3: You can survive anything you beg ever since.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what was it like?
Speaker 3: Did you guys tell people when you started dating, like
Speaker 3: within the like because it's such a small town and
Speaker 3: within our crew and like we worked every waking moment together.
Speaker 3: What was it like working together dating and then also
Speaker 3: including everybody else in on the relationship.
Speaker 6: Well? I actually called Jessica from the cab on the
Speaker 6: way home after the Gleat tour that okay, like texted
Speaker 6: her and she was for some reason awake. It was
Speaker 6: like four o'clock in the morning. She knew. She knew
Speaker 6: from the job, because after we came back from coffee
Speaker 6: that day, she was like, what was that?
Speaker 1: She really does, she really does.
Speaker 6: And then I did the uh season three I don't
Speaker 6: remember what they're called, the photo shoot thing that we
Speaker 6: have to do before recess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 6: I was yeah with Kelly Mitchell, I don't know, you
Speaker 6: just were all in each other's pockets all day anyways,
Speaker 6: So kind of everybody figured it out on their own,
Speaker 6: for sure, for sure. Funny.
Speaker 5: It was funny when Ryan figured it out.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how did tell us that?
Speaker 4: Well, we're walking I don't know where.
Speaker 6: We were walking to the commissary, walking in the Commary.
Speaker 4: And and I don't know, I kind of grabbed your
Speaker 4: hand or something, and we hear this from from behind us.
Speaker 5: Are you two in love?
Speaker 1: Very Ryan, very very yeah, And he loves to know.
Speaker 2: The gossip.
Speaker 1: His days. You make a friend like that.
Speaker 2: How long then have you been together?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What is the math on that?
Speaker 6: It's going to be fourteen years in June?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It really ages us too, because when did you guys
Speaker 1: get married?
Speaker 6: Twenty eighteen, so post.
Speaker 1: Glee finale dated for a while.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, yeah, does this still work after Glee?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: And have you guys worked together since Glee?
Speaker 6: We've dy played together, but we haven't managed you get
Speaker 6: on another show together. Yeah, because you know, he went
Speaker 6: to New Mexico and I've never seen him again.
Speaker 5: Right right, hardly?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been doing a lot of shows out of town,
Speaker 4: which Jennifer does a lot now too, But I started
Speaker 4: working with a set of producers that like to do
Speaker 4: stuff in New Mexico and I do that.
Speaker 5: In between the.
Speaker 4: Season five and season six, I jumped onto a show
Speaker 4: that ended up going for a long period of time.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you have hits after.
Speaker 6: Hits, he does.
Speaker 2: I would like to publicly apologize Philip because I did
Speaker 2: something severely unprofessional one day. Oh and I sometimes still
Speaker 2: wake up in a cold sweat about it, because Philip
Speaker 2: does not deserve that.
Speaker 1: You've talked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Naya and I it was before Thanksgiving break. I
Speaker 2: have told the story before, but I need to say
Speaker 2: this to Philip's face. Nya had sent me a voice
Speaker 2: recording it was very inappropriate, like earlier in the week,
Speaker 2: and when we were on like our seventeen, we'd start
Speaker 2: playing it to each other and I cannot say what
Speaker 2: it is, because absolutely would I would never ever work again.
Speaker 2: But it was at the time joke between me and
Speaker 2: I and some of the cast. And then one day
Speaker 2: when we were shooting this number, I think it was
Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving break or something, and we were all like,
Speaker 2: you know, not going to make our flights home or
Speaker 2: whatever it was ny and I decided to distract Philip
Speaker 2: and then I plugged in my phone to play the
Speaker 2: voice message over the PA system, which is not okay.
Speaker 2: And I am very sorry because then you ran back
Speaker 2: like there was a fire, because that was the equivalent
Speaker 2: of a fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Philip kept his department very professional. Yes, of all the departments,
Speaker 1: I feel like sound was the most professional.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, I don't look it was a momentary lapse.
Speaker 2: It was I didn't like. I woke up the next
Speaker 2: day after like sleeping, and I was like, what the
Speaker 2: did I just do to all the people? Of all people?
Speaker 2: What that? I was like, I am so sorry. I
Speaker 2: thought that was funny, but I'm a child. That was
Speaker 2: so stupid. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Apology accepted.
Speaker 2: I knew it was bad when even I was like
Speaker 2: even she was like, I don't think we should have
Speaker 2: done that because like because her bar yes of like
Speaker 2: she really.
Speaker 5: Likes like she's like, no, I do that.
Speaker 2: And then I looked at her face and she's like,
Speaker 2: what did you do? And I'm like, oh no, I'm
Speaker 2: like I read this situation very incorrectly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. It's very out of character for you.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 5: Do you remember when I had to come and apologize
Speaker 5: to you?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh yes, yeah I was.
Speaker 5: I was equally as freaked out.
Speaker 2: It was so it was so so we were all
Speaker 2: it was like me, Chris, maybe Amber. There were a
Speaker 2: handful of us, you know, when we had our cash
Speaker 2: chair set up in the teacher's lounge and we're miked
Speaker 2: all the time, but you can speak.
Speaker 5: To this can I set the stage? So we're we're.
Speaker 4: Doing a choir room scene and you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: basically a theater set up and somebody in front, right,
Speaker 4: So we shoot one side and then the other.
Speaker 5: That's how we do it in filmmaking.
Speaker 4: But when we shoot out out towards say, say it's
Speaker 4: mister shoe.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we pluck a person out and we put the
Speaker 4: camera there and it's my cruise responsibility to let me
Speaker 4: know when somebody might not be in the in the
Speaker 4: scene because I'm raising their mics up and doing all
Speaker 4: these things. And so it came we rolled, and it
Speaker 4: came time for Kevin's line, his one line for the scene,
Speaker 4: and I raise up the mic and you say.
Speaker 2: I'm bisexual, Kevin or something like that, and then.
Speaker 6: Which was not his line.
Speaker 4: And then I pulled the microphone down and I broke
Speaker 4: into like flop slip, and.
Speaker 5: We just carried on the scene like nobody heard it.
Speaker 5: And so we cut and I hear the microphone.
Speaker 4: Boom sliding back down, and Patrick Martin's my boom operator
Speaker 4: at the time, was laughing so hysterically.
Speaker 5: Because he was I am so sorry Kevin is not on.
Speaker 5: Where is he? He said, uh, in the in the
Speaker 5: other room.
Speaker 4: And so I went in and I had to tell
Speaker 4: the story. And because I have this thing, I'm professional,
Speaker 4: it's like everybody's wearing a mic all the time. I
Speaker 4: do not raise the mics up, unless I mean I
Speaker 4: might just to check it, but I never raised them up.
Speaker 4: And so I did that, and I could see everybody
Speaker 4: in video village went, you know, They're like.
Speaker 2: I didn't know everybody heard yeah, everybody, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: If there's anybody you're going to do that to, Kevin
Speaker 1: is the right person.
Speaker 2: I remember you running up to me and you looked
Speaker 2: horrified and you were apologizing, and I was a saying
Speaker 2: like stupid ship about each other.
Speaker 5: You were, you were, you were.
Speaker 4: Everybody was saying what what their uh new screen name
Speaker 4: would be, and.
Speaker 5: Yours, yours was gonna be I'd be bisexual. And it
Speaker 5: was like the perfect It was like a perfect cut.
Speaker 2: I was like, that is so odd because for context here,
Speaker 2: like we're not in the same location, we're not that far,
Speaker 2: but like we're talking freely, like we're far enough away
Speaker 2: where we can talk freely and not be caught on sound,
Speaker 2: and like we're sitting in the dark, just like I
Speaker 2: was laying on the floor. We're all just like sort
Speaker 2: of like shooting the ship. And then I guess I
Speaker 2: said that at the perfect.
Speaker 1: Time and everybody in the village and I.
Speaker 2: Was not like publicly like out at the time. So
Speaker 2: the film was like very sweet about running over and apologizing.
Speaker 5: I was so I was mortified.
Speaker 2: It's also like I am Mike and I said something
Speaker 2: so like you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I try and protect my actors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 3: Know what you call it, even it feels like it
Speaker 3: was worse, Jenn, I feel like we had a lot
Speaker 3: of really wild episodes with crazy costumes, yes, including Jenna's
Speaker 3: bubble dress.
Speaker 6: Yeah. But there was two when Becca tore her cat suit, yes,
Speaker 6: in her face in that episode because she takes the
Speaker 6: whip and she does this and she was wearing a
Speaker 6: latex it's a latex fetish suit, let's call it what
Speaker 6: it actually is, and it ripped in the armhole here
Speaker 6: but her face because I don't know where I was standing,
Speaker 6: but I was in the room, I guess, because she
Speaker 6: looked dead at me with the widest eyes that you've
Speaker 6: ever seen on Beca Toobin and she froze with their
Speaker 6: arm out and she just stood there, and I just
Speaker 6: remember looking at Leo and going, Leo, we're gonna need
Speaker 6: a minute.
Speaker 3: Well because also there you got that from like what
Speaker 3: a center store? Probably, and yeah, there was only one.
Speaker 6: We didn't there was only one. So we got Becca
Speaker 6: out of it. We threw Ben in his car heading
Speaker 6: toward the store in Silver Lake to go get another one.
Speaker 6: And meanwhile, there's a pic I have a photo somewhere
Speaker 6: of me on the trailer with our seamstress. But it's latex,
Speaker 6: so you can't sell it back together or anything. And
Speaker 6: if you blew it, which you can do, it takes
Speaker 6: forever to cure. So like there's nothing we can do.
Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there with like electrical tape pretending like
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be able to fix this, which I'm definitely not.
Speaker 6: Weill Ben like runs across town to get another one
Speaker 6: and hurry back. So we shot somebody else's superhero. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we got another one, yeah, because there was no background
Speaker 6: because it was just the band, and so that.
Speaker 1: I got her here, right, her and Melissa during that yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So there was that one. And then when we
Speaker 6: did Grease the second time, uh sentence right, Vanessa l
Speaker 6: cl climbed on top of the sheep shack during You're
Speaker 6: the One that I Want and ripped her pants, like
Speaker 6: pants on like I don't even know what they were.
Speaker 6: They were like, I don't know, some sort of silk,
Speaker 6: very fitted, and she climbed on top of the shake
Speaker 6: shack and was like, you know, doing her Vanessa moves
Speaker 6: and ripped her pants and she game same thing. She
Speaker 6: stopped and she looked and Chess was on set at
Speaker 6: that time too, and she looked at both of us
Speaker 6: and she was like, came down and we had this
Speaker 6: sower pants back up and more of that. We're on
Speaker 6: top of the shakeshack. But those are my two, like
Speaker 6: the yeah and then the pants Leah's pants.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: It was during Brave Yeah, and we made them last
Speaker 6: minute because the costume got changed last minute and they
Speaker 6: were beating Chiffon and every time she moved they shredded.
Speaker 5: And it was.
Speaker 6: Not during a good it was during it was a
Speaker 6: bad day, five bad times. Thankfully. It was Brad Beaker directing,
Speaker 6: and it was I think it was like a Friday
Speaker 6: or something. It was towards the end of the week
Speaker 6: because it was very late and it was it was
Speaker 6: it was after midnight. I think we wrapped. It was
Speaker 6: super late. And I went up to Brad Meeker afterwards
Speaker 6: and I was like, I am so sorry because it
Speaker 6: was a mess. The whole thing. The pants were shredded.
Speaker 5: It was bad.
Speaker 6: And Brad was like, why are you apologizing?
Speaker 1: You didn't do anything.
Speaker 6: I was like yeah, but he's like, no, it's fine.
Speaker 2: That number turned great. Watch amazing.
Speaker 6: I can't watch it. There's that that is when when
Speaker 6: people ask me what my worst day on set was,
Speaker 6: it's that one every time. Yeah, it was. It was very,
Speaker 6: very very bad.
Speaker 2: And that.
Speaker 6: It was just uh Nya and Leah and some of
Speaker 6: the other so and dancers. So Rourke wasn't there. I didn't.
Speaker 6: It was just me in bed and so Ben and
Speaker 6: I are trying the same thing. Was fun. If you
Speaker 6: try to sew it, you put in a hole in
Speaker 6: it into shreds more. I think at one point we
Speaker 6: had it. We taped it together with gaff.
Speaker 2: Tape, just like.
Speaker 3: And everybody don't understand, Like everybody's just waiting to finish
Speaker 3: the scene to go home.
Speaker 1: There's hundreds of people there.
Speaker 3: Doing their jobs and it's like the pressures on for everybody,
Speaker 3: just like get it done, just.
Speaker 2: Get it done home.
Speaker 6: And especially because I think it was a Friday, because
Speaker 6: and it was so late, and yeah, that was my
Speaker 6: worst day on set ever.
Speaker 1: I have a question for uh for you, Fela.
Speaker 3: I we most almost all TV shows, we talked about
Speaker 3: this a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't have a d R.
Speaker 3: And for people who don't know what ADR is, acters
Speaker 3: after they finished an episode will go in and six
Speaker 3: sound lines, things that you know that didn't get properly
Speaker 3: recorded during the shoot. I can count on my thumb
Speaker 3: one finger the one time I had to do ADR. Now,
Speaker 3: when we tell other people, other actors on TV shows
Speaker 3: that we did never did ADR, their mouths are on
Speaker 3: the floor. They're like, how so, I'm curious for you
Speaker 3: why we never had to do ADR? And was it
Speaker 3: you figured out the magical thing because you're a magical
Speaker 3: unicorn in what you do, or was it that we
Speaker 3: didn't have time and somebody was like, just make it work.
Speaker 2: I have to know.
Speaker 1: I've been dying too the answers since we wrapped.
Speaker 2: It's a fun fact to like brag to other actors
Speaker 2: about because I think I maybe did it once. Maybe
Speaker 2: thank you for that.
Speaker 4: First of all, Jane Lynch kind of has done that before,
Speaker 4: or she said that to me and she didn't have
Speaker 4: to do any ADR and they called her in one
Speaker 4: time and she said finally and she got there and
Speaker 4: they said, oh, no, we're adding a line.
Speaker 1: Didn't say.
Speaker 5: She was like, oh, that means that you didn't wait,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: And that's a whole separate thing.
Speaker 5: It's a whole separate thing. I don't really know.
Speaker 4: I knew early on it had been presented to me
Speaker 4: that Ryan really does not like a dr I, so
Speaker 4: I used I used that as a little bit of
Speaker 4: a way for me to go, I think I need
Speaker 4: another one or I need this little section.
Speaker 5: So I keep.
Speaker 4: Very and I do this for every show, not just Lee,
Speaker 4: but I go through the script while we're doing it.
Speaker 4: I have like I have my mixing panel, and you
Speaker 4: guys know, you guys used to come and hang around me,
Speaker 4: and I would have the sides up, which are MANI
Speaker 4: versions of the script, and and I literally check them off,
Speaker 4: like we got that one clean, we got that one clean,
Speaker 4: we got that clean.
Speaker 5: I'm missing these two.
Speaker 4: Lines and that and you guys remember me coming in
Speaker 4: and go, I need a wild line. Yeah, and we
Speaker 4: go and we'd get that line wild and we go great, thanks.
Speaker 4: And so I would literally check off every line because
Speaker 4: it was relayed to me very early on that Ryan
Speaker 4: wasn't a fan of ADR, and I think it was
Speaker 4: mostly because they didn't they didn't spend a lot of
Speaker 4: time working with good ADR people, because ADR can be great,
Speaker 4: for sure, and it can save a scene. But I
Speaker 4: don't think Ryan had had great experience with that, and
Speaker 4: so I took it upon myself to to and it
Speaker 4: was known.
Speaker 5: You know, the producers knew it, and everybody knew it.
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, yeah, he doesn't like it.
Speaker 4: So I would say that, I'd be like, I need
Speaker 4: two lines and I need it from this, and then
Speaker 4: usually when I do that, they would say, oh, let's
Speaker 4: just do it again.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 4: And then we would do another take and then it
Speaker 4: would be clean and I'd be like, got it.
Speaker 5: So a lot of the way production is.
Speaker 4: Done now and I won't say this all the time,
Speaker 4: but they will blast through it and because you know,
Speaker 4: time is money and they know that they can they
Speaker 4: know with good adr they can fix it, and so
Speaker 4: it's in my best interest to try and get it,
Speaker 4: you know, right the first time.
Speaker 5: But that was.
Speaker 4: Really sort of the rule on Glee from the jump
Speaker 4: was that, uh, everybody checked with me before we moved
Speaker 4: on because of Ryan and and I think it paid
Speaker 4: off because I thought I thought the show sounded really good.
Speaker 1: It sounded really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we also like didn't have the time, Like I
Speaker 3: can't even imagine in my head then being like, hey,
Speaker 3: you guys at the end of the day, like you
Speaker 3: have to go to a dr I don't know when
Speaker 3: we would have done it.
Speaker 2: No, it was even like they built that new like
Speaker 2: building next to our stages where we're doing some adr
Speaker 2: we didn't. I remember like the one or two times
Speaker 2: I ever had to do it. It was so difficult to
Speaker 2: even schedule for me to walk across an alley basically
Speaker 2: to go do that. So it's phenomenal that because I
Speaker 2: remember doing those wildlines and things like that. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: takes twenty seconds and you're done. You're in the same
Speaker 2: spot that you just shot in there. Yeah, when it
Speaker 2: came to the music stuff, because you said you had
Speaker 2: done music before, because obviously we get asked a lot
Speaker 2: about were you guys singing live? Were you singing to
Speaker 2: pre recorded tracks? Like obviously we were lips sinking ninety
Speaker 2: nine percent of the time. There's a couple exceptions in there.
Speaker 2: But when it went from you getting CDs to you
Speaker 2: probably be downloading the files, and I could see like
Speaker 2: you would have you when you get stems, they send
Speaker 2: you stems of everything, because sometimes we wouldn't know what
Speaker 2: we recorded because we record so quickly, and like I
Speaker 2: remember going over to you a lot of the times
Speaker 2: being like what are my ad libs? Like, I it down,
Speaker 2: no idea. I did one take of that and I
Speaker 2: don't know, and it's like mixed in a way orm
Speaker 2: like I can't really hear it. And the beauty of
Speaker 2: it you could literally pull up any vocal, any piece,
Speaker 2: which was so brilliant as opposed to just you know,
Speaker 2: starting pressing play and then we just had to do it.
Speaker 2: Like what was that like for you?
Speaker 5: Well, it didn't start out that way.
Speaker 4: It started out with I would get a just a
Speaker 4: mixed two track and so and that happened like the
Speaker 4: first uh, first thirteen episodes was I was just getting
Speaker 4: a mixed and so after that when we got the
Speaker 4: pick because I don't know, maybe you've talked about it before, but.
Speaker 5: It took us like two years to do the first season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a very long time.
Speaker 4: It was a very long time because I we did
Speaker 4: the pilot and then several months later we came back
Speaker 4: and did the first thirteen and it started airing and
Speaker 4: it and it was like a home run. And then
Speaker 4: so there was like three months off before we came
Speaker 4: back and did the back nine. So really from start
Speaker 4: to finish of the first season was like two was.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it was a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so when we came back, before we came back
Speaker 4: for the back nine, I said, I can't we can't
Speaker 4: have I can't just get a radio version of this.
Speaker 4: I have to have the music split out because I've
Speaker 4: got to feed music. If I need the drummer to
Speaker 4: actually have the intro that is playing on the thing,
Speaker 4: I got to be able to play that for him
Speaker 4: smart right then. And I need the backgrounds completely separate
Speaker 4: because I need to be able to pull the backgrounds
Speaker 4: out when we're doing y'all's you know, close ups, because
Speaker 4: sometimes the backgrounds are like there's like nineteen voices and
Speaker 4: you can't you can't hear what you're doing. And so
Speaker 4: we would so from the first thirteen to the back nine,
Speaker 4: that's television talk from.
Speaker 5: Uh that's how we used to do TV.
Speaker 6: And uh.
Speaker 4: So we had a meeting with the music editor, Dave Klass,
Speaker 4: who's just brilliant and he's had, I think, build a
Speaker 4: like a new wing onto his house for all of
Speaker 4: his zammi's and it's like he comes home and read them,
Speaker 4: you know, but.
Speaker 5: He he we developed this sort of.
Speaker 4: Work, you know, flow that had you know, I had
Speaker 4: everybody's everybody in the cast vocal separate, and there the
Speaker 4: effects on that vocal separate, because sometimes they had all
Speaker 4: these effects on it and we don't need to hear that.
Speaker 4: You just need to hear what you're doing. So I
Speaker 4: could I could change the effects level. Every single one
Speaker 4: of the cast members was a separate split out, and
Speaker 4: all the backgrounds were its own split out, and then
Speaker 4: the music was its own, and and then anything that
Speaker 4: was weird, like something that was additional, like an intro
Speaker 4: or everything, they would have that on. And so I
Speaker 4: had it all split out on a big pro tool session.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, so we had a rig. And so
Speaker 4: as you started being savvy to it about season two
Speaker 4: or three, you guys would just come over the card
Speaker 4: and go, can I hear my background?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we never get to hear any of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like a little cheat code even if
Speaker 2: I didn't have to. I'm like, what is Amber doing here?
Speaker 2: Can you just play that one time for me?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh, she's doing even more okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And Ambers was like a favorite for us to solo
Speaker 4: and hear because they were nuts.
Speaker 1: My gods, was just crazy honor.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, like the gift that we got to
Speaker 2: just go hang out with you and like solo these things.
Speaker 2: It was. It was like one of my favorite parts
Speaker 2: of those days. I'm like, I hope I have more things,
Speaker 2: like an excuse to go, Like I didn't want to
Speaker 2: bother you. I was like, if I had an excuse
Speaker 2: to go listen to something, if it was like not
Speaker 2: my part, it really had to be like worth it.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, yeah, like what is Amber doing? Please?
Speaker 5: I remember that?
Speaker 4: And then I remember you coming by because there was
Speaker 4: some gnarly background vocals on something, and You're like, I
Speaker 4: want to hear these backgrounds. So we sell and we
Speaker 4: play them and they're like who is that?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: It was nobody, these magical people who like we've never met,
Speaker 3: we don't see at all, but they're singing their faces
Speaker 3: off and this is the only time we get to
Speaker 3: experience them.
Speaker 4: And then when we would do like you know, one
Speaker 4: of the big you know, competition things a sexual we
Speaker 4: would have this massive thing because we want between so
Speaker 4: we would have this pro tool session and that's like
Speaker 4: tech talk for you know, music stuff. Uh, And it
Speaker 4: was this massive thing. So I kinda I got a
Speaker 4: little sweaty at times, because I mean, pro tools is
Speaker 4: kind of at that point in time was very famous
Speaker 4: for shutting down.
Speaker 2: And right in the middle of right.
Speaker 4: Right at the worst possible moment, when there's like a
Speaker 4: thousand people there, and so we we always had a
Speaker 4: backup going. We didn't have a going, but we had
Speaker 4: it there, so if it shut down, we'd be like,
Speaker 4: we need a second and then we could.
Speaker 5: Swap it out.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was we. I feel like so.
Speaker 2: Much to think about that. People don't realize.
Speaker 5: We just really we were winging it a lot.
Speaker 4: Because there was there would be times, would you know,
Speaker 4: Beaker would come up like, I.
Speaker 5: Know I didn't ask you for this, but how hard
Speaker 5: would it be to play this backwards?
Speaker 2: I didn't know you did good impressions. You know, everybody's
Speaker 2: like body language down.
Speaker 4: And remember when we did, like, uh, the song backwards?
Speaker 4: You guys saying it backwards?
Speaker 2: What song was that?
Speaker 5: I forget what it was. It was Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6: It was Michael Jackson. It was in the hallway. It
Speaker 6: was in the main hallway. Doesn't want to be starting something.
Speaker 2: I might even want to be starting something.
Speaker 4: Ye, I can't remember, but he was like, I want
Speaker 4: to do it backwards because.
Speaker 5: If you do it backwards and then you.
Speaker 4: Play it it and then you play it forwards, it
Speaker 4: has this weird motion.
Speaker 5: So we would do all of these things.
Speaker 1: Like the double time when they do the song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was.
Speaker 5: That was like the first time we did that. They're like,
Speaker 5: how hard.
Speaker 2: I love that. I was like, I've done this before
Speaker 2: because you were the one.
Speaker 5: You were the person that had done that sort of thing,
Speaker 5: and I was.
Speaker 6: Well, and you could always nail it because I think
Speaker 6: we did the backwards one, and when you nailed the
Speaker 6: backwards the one, you like jumped up and down like
Speaker 6: for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: You loved those things. I was just like I would
Speaker 2: get sent because at first when I first got sent,
Speaker 2: because there's like a not to get too nerdy about this,
Speaker 2: but there was like a debate if we do it
Speaker 2: like one and a half times or two times or
Speaker 2: two and a half times, and I was like these
Speaker 2: two are way too fast. I'm like that doesn't sound right,
Speaker 2: and like I don't know what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: But I was so scared because it also like the
Speaker 2: early days, I'm like I would show up and do
Speaker 2: a good job. Yeah, but I'm like, oka, look at
Speaker 2: it like dancing up myself. I'm like this out there.
Speaker 2: I loved doing it. The challenge of it was so fun.
Speaker 5: It was fun.
Speaker 4: And and so when we started doing that, so all
Speaker 4: of the sessions got even bigger because I had them
Speaker 4: do a double time. God, a one and a half
Speaker 4: and a double time, and so like all of these
Speaker 4: crazy things. And so we we were just like because
Speaker 4: anytime we saw something cool on a music video on YouTube,
Speaker 4: they'd be like, let's do that, right, yeah, And so
Speaker 4: that's and and so you know, we became that show.
Speaker 1: We were that, Yeah, we've done it. We've done it all,
Speaker 1: We've seen it all.
Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Do you have any favorite musical numbers that we did, like,
Speaker 3: either that you were involved it or just like watching
Speaker 3: dinosaur proms?
Speaker 6: Just the ones that I the ones that are near
Speaker 6: to my heart are the ones that were so awful
Speaker 6: and that we were standing there. I cannot believe that
Speaker 6: we're doing this. So dinosaur prom with the heads with
Speaker 6: which just still has in her backyard by the way,
Speaker 6: Yes she has the dinosaur heads.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 6: It was a Christmas one with you with Jenna and
Speaker 6: Melissa and alex Y Child.
Speaker 1: Never forget that one was were you there for singing
Speaker 1: in the rain?
Speaker 6: I know I wasn't there. I was on the other
Speaker 6: unit with Carol Burnett and.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Then you were lucky, lucked out because that.
Speaker 6: Was the water.
Speaker 4: The water was something special by the time we fit
Speaker 4: with the amount of stuff they put in it so
Speaker 4: that it wouldn't fall.
Speaker 1: I mean we were the water was boaming, We.
Speaker 6: Had rain boots.
Speaker 3: Probably immune system is so bad, Kevin, sitting in the
Speaker 3: water basically.
Speaker 2: Just getting sitting in the back, are just collecting in
Speaker 2: my lap.
Speaker 3: Oh we would like cover our take our roomoods and
Speaker 3: just like the water would pour out.
Speaker 2: Or the slushies for both of you, Yeah, my god,
Speaker 2: good question, Kevin.
Speaker 6: Well, for him that's so bad because the minute we
Speaker 6: said slushies, you took the wire.
Speaker 1: Off years out because it was weird. But for me,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 5: So well you got more anybody, the two of you.
Speaker 6: We really did, Kevin, that one with the hockey players,
Speaker 6: and you got I don't know what was it, like
Speaker 6: fifteen slushies poured on you. You were sking, you were blue,
Speaker 6: which is ironic because the slushies were red, but we
Speaker 6: would set up like me, like costumes and hair and
Speaker 6: makeup would set we'd find wherever the closest room was
Speaker 6: to where the slushi was going to happen. We would
Speaker 6: shove everybody out of the way and we would declare
Speaker 6: it hours because what would happen. And you guys have
Speaker 6: talked about this a little bit is after are you
Speaker 6: pour all the slushies? Everybody has to wait so that
Speaker 6: we can take photos in case we ever have to
Speaker 6: match this, which sounds insane, but we had to match
Speaker 6: Jenna when she got Carrie at the prom because we
Speaker 6: shot the after part where she changed dresses before we
Speaker 6: shot the prom part, before we shot the actual thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so we'd have to freeze like so they
Speaker 3: would say action slushy and then.
Speaker 6: They would be standing there like shaking from cold and
Speaker 6: eyes closed, scrunched face because you're cold and it's in
Speaker 6: your face and it's in your eyes and because you
Speaker 6: don't want to get at your mouth yep, and die.
Speaker 6: And we were learing there taking pictures because we're horrible people, and.
Speaker 5: Also tried to fake slushy at one time. But it
Speaker 5: looks so bad.
Speaker 2: It looks so bad.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: They were like would just bounce right off.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the thought that they but I just wasn't
Speaker 1: the same effect.
Speaker 6: So then we'd shove you into a room and like
Speaker 6: you know, Kelly would have hot towels and I would
Speaker 6: just start like pulling your clothes off because you'd be
Speaker 6: so cold, and then we'd wrap.
Speaker 1: Rip down your body, like all the way down to your.
Speaker 6: Your undergarments, like everything would be. It was.
Speaker 2: I always felt so bad. I was like, they shouldn't
Speaker 2: have to rub us down, Like this shouldn't be part
Speaker 2: of your job.
Speaker 6: Well, no, because then we just have to get you
Speaker 6: dressed and put you back out there you do it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were like I just remember people like
Speaker 2: fully cleaning off my like limbs because they were dyed red.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's not fair, So like it's yeah, it.
Speaker 5: Was like it was in your chair that day.
Speaker 6: Was that I never felt worse for a human in
Speaker 6: my life than Kevin McHale And with seven teams off
Speaker 6: your leg.
Speaker 1: I had never been slushy before.
Speaker 2: I never. It was absolutely my fault.
Speaker 6: Brand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, well I'll take care of that one exactly.
Speaker 2: Waiting for those photos to be taken was the worst.
Speaker 6: Didn't hurt when it hit you from for carry at
Speaker 6: the problem because it was so high up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a buckets word, so it hurts.
Speaker 3: And it felt so like like shards of ice, like
Speaker 3: your face down your dress, like it came straight down
Speaker 3: on me and it just felt like I was being
Speaker 3: hit with icicles.
Speaker 1: Basically.
Speaker 3: It was terrible and of course it so it's right
Speaker 3: in and just sat in my dress. It was awful.
Speaker 3: It was awful, and we did it twice. I thought,
Speaker 3: like for sure this one they weren't going to have.
Speaker 1: To do again, and they did.
Speaker 6: We did it twice, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: Then like at some point got smart and like if
Speaker 3: you had to work the rest of the day, they
Speaker 3: would offer the gym, the paramount shower. But at some
Speaker 3: point I think we were all like whatever, just like
Speaker 3: wipe me down and keeping shaving cream and oh yes,
Speaker 3: we we learned that you guys learn was it makeup
Speaker 3: that learned that the dye comes off with shaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were.
Speaker 6: Just cheap old kind like the fancy new.
Speaker 1: Job the old yeah white because it also.
Speaker 6: Gets off it gets movie blood as well.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting science. Fair enough.
Speaker 2: I got to work with Jen again.
Speaker 1: Yes, which was.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was honestly, Like Ryan called and asked
Speaker 2: if I would do this American horror story things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course sure. But the best perk, to be honest
Speaker 2: was like seeing some of the and Melissa, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2: I was, I'm like a professional what I just wanted
Speaker 2: to be like, so tell me everything, what's going on?
Speaker 6: It was. I was so excited when they told me
Speaker 6: that you were going to be on that I I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 6: Ben and I were so stoked. We couldn't wait for
Speaker 6: that episode.
Speaker 1: I think the fam is back together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the rest of the guys that were in
Speaker 6: that episode, we were so fun. And it was just
Speaker 6: like where I could just like yell and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: somebody go get catch so somebody will go wake Kevin
Speaker 6: up because he's sleeping on the ground in the corner.
Speaker 2: In that room. And I mean people that didn't know
Speaker 2: us would like look at us, and She's like it's.
Speaker 6: She keeps talking to him like that like he's one of.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no, she knows this.
Speaker 6: I yelled at Kevin from across the parking lot one
Speaker 6: time to go change his clothes because I wanted to
Speaker 6: go home like.
Speaker 2: We have here. It was great. I really loved it.
Speaker 2: And also to like, you know, so step into somebody
Speaker 2: else's show, even though every episode was different. It's like
Speaker 2: a weird thing. And to be able to like be
Speaker 2: there with you who just felt like, oh, we're doing
Speaker 2: this again, and then we put.
Speaker 6: You in a tub and we poured ice on you.
Speaker 2: Well, I was like, fine, nothing.
Speaker 6: I asked the prop people and I was like, wait,
Speaker 6: is it real ice or is it silicon ice? And
Speaker 6: they kind of looked at me like why is she
Speaker 6: asking this?
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I just have to know for sure you don't know.
Speaker 3: So we asked everybody this question separately, together however you
Speaker 3: want to answer it. What is the feeling that Glee
Speaker 3: leaves you with?
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, go ahead, Bunny, go ahead, Bunny.
Speaker 2: We're married.
Speaker 3: It's like you guys know each other or somethings.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's there was this statement constantly by the
Speaker 4: feeling of joy. You know that that was what being
Speaker 4: a part of a glee club is. And I honestly
Speaker 4: feel like being a part of that crew from start
Speaker 4: to finish, I mean what it was like a family, family,
Speaker 4: like I've never experienced. And we talk about it a
Speaker 4: lot about how you know everybody.
Speaker 6: I mean, the last night, the last song in our
Speaker 6: reception was I Lived Yep, yep, because it was and
Speaker 6: it was our version, because of course it was. It
Speaker 6: was like the cheesiest thing that we did. But I
Speaker 6: had we met on the show. Also, the lyrics to
Speaker 6: that song are actually quite good for the final song
Speaker 6: of your wedding reception. But yeah, like that, this is
Speaker 6: I still work with these people. They're still my people.
Speaker 6: And I mean, I I know you guys are all
Speaker 6: grown adults, but you're still my kids.
Speaker 2: Total.
Speaker 6: Every one of you are still my kids. Great, and
Speaker 6: I am so proud because that was such an It
Speaker 6: was an incredible show. Yes, was a dramatic Did we
Speaker 6: all fight, Yes, because we're our family and we all
Speaker 6: fight with everybody, but nobody else is going to fight.
Speaker 6: Nobody else is going to say anything bad because.
Speaker 5: The exactly we protect that. Yeah, I mean it is like.
Speaker 6: I can't say that I can no, no, I can't,
Speaker 6: but you cannot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was That's so sweet. Yeah, it's really
Speaker 1: really sweet. Yeah, we feel the same.
Speaker 3: It's kind of why we view the show is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: just to make sure that people know that the real story,
Speaker 3: you know, not what you hear, because there's a lot
Speaker 3: of I.
Speaker 6: Mean, there was definitely a tragedy and drama and anger
Speaker 6: and fighting and everything, but we were together, you know,
Speaker 6: seventy hours for seventy hours a week for six years,
Speaker 6: really more than that. But like, yeah, you don't fight
Speaker 6: with people that. You don't not fight with people you're with.
Speaker 3: That much to not realityating's just like taking out on
Speaker 3: the people that were closest with, you know, exactly that
Speaker 3: kind of feeling where you get it.
Speaker 1: We're all going to have bad days.
Speaker 6: But everybody had a great time if you ask them.
Speaker 6: Everybody talks about how much fun it was, and everybody
Speaker 6: was at their their best. And the crew that we had,
Speaker 6: I mean from our pas and up until you know,
Speaker 6: our dps and the producers and everybody, like you know,
Speaker 6: they were all bringing their best every day. Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: I also had really really really talented people.
Speaker 2: This this feels validating, you know. It's like we always
Speaker 2: say this, and it's nice to hear other people other
Speaker 2: departments who were on the show for as long as
Speaker 2: both of you were. Yeah, to say the exact same
Speaker 2: things that we always say to each other.
Speaker 5: Oh it was.
Speaker 4: It was, I mean one of the most enjoyable periods
Speaker 4: of the time of my life. I'm always going to
Speaker 4: talk about it, you know, I talk about it like
Speaker 4: it was yesterday. And then when people also, when people
Speaker 4: find out that that I or we were on Glee,
Speaker 4: they they're like, how did you do that show? Because honestly,
Speaker 4: so many other shows have tried to do it not
Speaker 4: well right, And it's really it was really hard, and
Speaker 4: it was a little bit of lightning in a bottle
Speaker 4: that we managed to be able to kind of keep
Speaker 4: going for a while. And I'm incredibly you know, fortunate.
Speaker 4: We are incredibly fortunate to have been part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Same, Well, we were so lucky to have such a
Speaker 3: great crew truly, you know, everybody was really the top
Speaker 3: of their game, but also just.
Speaker 1: Like really good people.
Speaker 3: So to have that, I think that was part of
Speaker 3: lightning in the models, like the chemistry of all that.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it dated what it was people just see,
Speaker 2: you know what's on the TV. But that chemistry was around.
Speaker 3: The thousands of things happening and the hurricane you or
Speaker 3: the tornado. Yeah, well we know you guys are so busy,
Speaker 3: literally like on sets prepping to do other things. So
Speaker 3: we really appreciate you taking the time to come on
Speaker 3: the show and talk with us and share your story.
Speaker 3: And it's just so cute and we really love you guys,
Speaker 3: and we miss you and it's so good to see
Speaker 3: you and thanks for something on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I'm so glad to do it for
Speaker 2: so much too.
Speaker 3: By they were such integral parts of our show. I
Speaker 3: mean everybody was, but like such integral parts and like
Speaker 3: so many memories I have include them, oh yeah. And
Speaker 3: then also like their story of how cute they are
Speaker 3: and how they met and they dated and they got
Speaker 3: married and like their story continues that started on our
Speaker 3: show is so special.
Speaker 2: There's not every department that you interact with so often
Speaker 2: with every show too, but yeah, we interacted with them
Speaker 2: specifically personally, yes, every day, all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, thank you so much to Phil and Jen.
Speaker 3: They were even in separate locations, both doing their own work,
Speaker 3: because that's how the industry works, and they took the
Speaker 3: time to talk of this.
Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much, and I hope you
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this episode.
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