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Speaker 2: this is the ultimate kabaka and we are underway. Hello, everyone,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Week one XFL Fantasy Flex aka the

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Speaker 2: x Flex on the Action Network podcast. I'm Matthew Freeman,

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Speaker 2: the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, part of the

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Speaker 2: Action Network. In this episode, we are breaking down the

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Speaker 2: XFL futures market. We're looking for value in the week

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Speaker 2: one betting lines, and we are highlighting some players we'd

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Speaker 2: like for daily fantasy the XFL. Yes, and with me

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Speaker 2: as always, our Shan Corner and Chris Raymond. Shawn is

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Speaker 2: our director of predictive Analytics and one of the top

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Speaker 2: in season fantasy football rankers for the past half decade,

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Speaker 2: and Chris is a senior editor and analyst at the

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Speaker 2: Action Network and a co host of the Action Network

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Speaker 2: show on series XM Fantasy Sports Radio, and a top

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Speaker 2: five fantasy football ranker for the twenty nineteen twenty NFL season. Guys,

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Speaker 2: I gotta say I have never been so exhilarated looking

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Speaker 2: at archive stats for mom Miss football team to see

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Speaker 2: what a third string tight end might be able to do.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys doing? How excited are you for

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Speaker 2: the XFL?

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Speaker 4: I am I'm pretty excited. I think it's good to

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Speaker 4: have some football. After some football, I'll probably get a.

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Speaker 1: Little more excited starting in week two, when we have

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Speaker 1: I think a week of data and when the oscars

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Speaker 1: are over, I love to build models for them, so

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of juggling OSCARS model and XFL model at

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Speaker 1: the same time, but I will I'm pretty excited to

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Speaker 1: have a legitimate football we get hopefully does not fold,

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Speaker 1: you know after the first season.

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Speaker 2: No, no, don't even bring that bad juju. This league

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Speaker 2: is going the distance for at least a season and

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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 3: Agreed. Yeah, I think Vincent Mann will allow that to happen.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was it was fun, you know, after

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Speaker 3: what five straight months of granting NFL. The very next

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Speaker 3: morning after the season, I'm sitting here scouring through preseason

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Speaker 3: film to watch two plays from a couple of these

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Speaker 3: how good they are based on that. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: good to kind of wind down from football by getting

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Speaker 3: to project this brand new league with people were sort

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Speaker 3: we don't want to just like quit football cold turkey,

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Speaker 3: so we get you know, a good ten week season

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Speaker 2: Kind of cool down, stay yeah, to stay sharp and

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Speaker 2: kind of start to gear back up for projecting for

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Let's talk a little bit about the process

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Speaker 2: that hasn't played a game yet, because I found that

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Speaker 2: to be a faster, fascinating exercise and probably futility. But

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Speaker 2: it was fun to go through it all the same. Sean,

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Speaker 2: how are you projecting things? Like just kind of talked

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Speaker 3: So from you know, like sports betting, you know, points

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Speaker 3: spread in total you really can't. I would say it's

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I don't think I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: Raybond, how are you approaching this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of the thing way, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: I will be curious to see one where these lines

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Speaker 2: in Raymond, I want to kick it to you, how

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Speaker 2: do you play fantasy in a league that is totally unknown?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you do have to kind of look

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Speaker 1: And I think for me, it's just it's looking at

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Speaker 4: It's not like we don't know anything about these players.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of these guys, especially the pass

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Speaker 2: Sean, what do you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so when it comes to DFS, it's a much

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Speaker 3: different story. At least with my approach, I'm more confident,

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's jump into the analysis of the

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Speaker 3: Just first start off by saying, yeah, I think they're

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Speaker 2: So if you are willing to fade the Dallas for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Sean.

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Speaker 1: So when I look at this team, I think, and

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Speaker 1: But overall, I think this team is going to be

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Speaker 1: Week one DFS. I still obviously like uh Jazz Ferguson.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're projected number one back in a situation

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, yeah, Artist Pain as the number five running

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Speaker 2: I think he's he's pretty interesting. Jazz Ferguson, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: I'm expecting them to tear it up and Ferguson, a

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Speaker 2: I do have some respect for Dallas. I think they

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Speaker 3: Jazz Ferguson, he's my boy too. So I mean at

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Speaker 3: forty two hundred, they don't even like you have to

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Speaker 3: play him. Yeah, so he's six' five, two twenty four four,

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Speaker 3: Here yeah with with you Know, hoffam they were at wide.

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Speaker 3: Forty he was a guy who's. Targeting in PRESEASON, dfs

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Speaker 3: he didn't really pan, out BUT i could see him

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Speaker 3: HUNDRED i mean that's he's an automatic. Player I'm i'm

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Speaker 3: just hoping he's under like sixty percent. OWNERSHIP i think

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Speaker 3: that everybody's gonna like most sites have him ranking the top,

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Speaker 2: Them but some people are really On Jeff, bidett the

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Speaker 2: other wide. Receiver you, know he's a speedy. Guy he

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Speaker 2: number one. Receiver so hopefully that sentiment could potentially decrease

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Speaker 2: the ownership rate that we see out Of Jazz ferguson

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Speaker 2: the other team in this, Matchup Saint Louis. BattleHawks their

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Speaker 2: odds to win the championship are ten to one At

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Speaker 2: their win total At caesars is three and a, half

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Speaker 2: with The Seattle. Dragons, again they are seven and a

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Speaker 3: Seems like they're head coaching staff is probably the most.

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Speaker 2: good offensive, mind whether it's the head coach or, coordinator,

432
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: whatever it is a good play caller and a good,

433
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 2: quarterback and this TEAM i think has. Neither it's not

434
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: to say That Jordan taylamu can't be a good. Quarterback

435
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: it's just that this is a guy who wasn't able

436
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 2: to put up you, know a lot of great numbers in,

437
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: college even though he had A. J brown AND Dk

438
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: metcalf as his starting wide receivers In Duston knox as

439
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: his tight. End so it's you, know it's not something

440
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: that really encourages a lot of. Enthusiasm and then he

441
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: has a head coach who's known as the tight end

442
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: coach Under Marvin lewis for years In, cincinnati and you

443
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: know the offensive Coordinator Chuck, long who last was calling

444
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: plays For kansas in twenty and. Eleven like this is

445
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: this is not a situation in which you, think, oh

446
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: these guys are going to be, Innovative they're really going

447
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: to know how to maximize the skill that their quarterback.

448
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: Has SO i Am i'm very. Pessimistic, raybond what do

449
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: you think about this?

450
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: Team, well it's interesting BECAUSE i think this is a

451
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: team that FOR dfs, purpose especially in. Tournaments this could

452
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: be an interesting stacking team if because if we're all

453
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: high on the you know On, dallas then you know

454
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that that that two minute comeback. Period

455
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a game where maybe Uh Saint louis

456
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: has to put up some. Points and so, well, YEAH

457
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: i think they have one of the worst offensive. Rosters

458
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: you kind of look up and down the roster and you, say, okay,

459
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: well somebody's gonna have to catch the. Ball somebody's gonna

460
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: have to you, know essentially try to keep pace in this.

461
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: Game SO i, think, uh you, know perhaps they're their

462
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 1: their top. Receivers you, know they Have mumfrey who used

463
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: to who played SOME nfl, ball and they have a

464
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: De Morney pearsonnel who spent last, smaller smaller receiver who

465
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: spent the preseason with The Oakland. RAIDERS i think you

466
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: call it, nine nine or fourteen targets for seventy, yards

467
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: so underneath kind of, guy but could potentially rack up

468
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: some some HIGH ppr. Totals SO i think guys like,

469
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: that you, know if you're if you're gonna go With

470
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: dallas or kind of you, know throw a lineup in

471
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: With ferguson Or bedet or maybe both of. Them this

472
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: is a team THAT i think will probably be low

473
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: owned because of you, know just because of the spreads

474
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: and because of their, roster but that this might actually

475
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: be a good team to stack in tournaments with some

476
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: of those.

477
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 4: Doubts got to get some. Differentiation, yeah it's.

478
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: INTERESTING i see your. Point it's well, taken, uh But

479
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: i'm still kind of, pessimistic which is the. Thesis that's

480
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: that's the reason for it and investing is that you

481
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: will have too many people who are. Pessimistic BUT i

482
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: don't think it's uncertain how important the running game is

483
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: going to be in the X, fl AND i think

484
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: the strength of this offense is the running. Backs so

485
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: you Know chris And, Michael Matt, Jones Leonard tillery was

486
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: a great player in. College you Know Keith FORD i

487
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: believe was AT, lsu Sorry TEXAS a AND m and

488
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: was you know productive. There you take those guys, out

489
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: and this looks like one of the weakest skill position,

490
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: groups uh in the. League SO i will probably be.

491
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: Fading but if you, know if you want, EXPOSURE i

492
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: think you either Go. Kntrarion As chris, said or you,

493
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: know you think That Kristin michael finally fulfills his potential

494
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: in THE xfl and has a you, know a, big

495
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: a big game here. Corner anyone you are interested in FOR.

496
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: Dfs, YEAH i Think Christy michael he's the Guy i'm

497
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: only to take a stab. At Like raybell mentioned, EARLIER

498
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: i think wide receiver has a ton of, value so

499
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to spend up. Somewhere SO i Have

500
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: michael as my number one running back for week. One you,

501
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: know he's still only twenty. Nine we could, see you,

502
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: Know Trent richardson in THE af style, comeback but he

503
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: could dominate this, league SO i think spending up to

504
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: get him makes. SENSE i think he's guaranteed a workhorse

505
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: low to start the, season SO i think getting that

506
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: guaranteed production at running back makes sense week, one where

507
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: there's a lot more insertanty and then wide, receiver we

508
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: can take more flyers and, stuff But I'm i'm not

509
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: going to mess around too much at running, back SO

510
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: i think he's gonna be my top. PLAY i can't

511
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: figure out who's going to be the number one. RECEIVER

512
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 3: i do Like raybaud's. POINT i think they'll be low,

513
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: owned so you can throw on some flyers. There BUT

514
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: i think just the only guy THAT i think is

515
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: worth owning from this team is Probably michael.

516
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: All.

517
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: Right that game is at four Pm eastern On. Sunday

518
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: let's talk about the game before, that The New York

519
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: guardians against The Tampa Bay. Vipers let's start with The.

520
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Guardians this is interesting. Now their odds to win at

521
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: most books is four to. One that's the second highest

522
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: odds that you can find out. There, however AND i

523
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: don't know if this is just Because i'm looking At

524
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: William hill And, iowa but they are ten to one

525
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: and at The William hill app THAT i have In.

526
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Iowa so a pretty big discrepancy. There just the reminder

527
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: to shop around because you can find lots lots of

528
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: lines out there that provide. Value their win total At

529
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: caesars is, four which is middle of the road they,

530
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: are which is it's very. Interesting even though they are

531
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: favored in a lot of. Places let me rephrase, that

532
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: even though they have four to one odds and a

533
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: lot of, places which puts them among the faces in

534
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: the league to win the. Championship in this, game they

535
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: are underdogs two and a half point on underdogs at,

536
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: home which is kind of. Interesting if ever there were a,

537
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: POINT i think to take a short home, favorite, sorry

538
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: a short home. Dog this actually might be. It But,

539
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: sean any thoughts on how to approach The, Guardians.

540
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: WELL i think you, know when it comes to the

541
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: futures the four to one, ODDS i think it's important

542
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: to realize that books aren't necessarily forecasting which teams are.

543
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: Good it's just where the money is. Going and you

544
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: think about a team Like New york thinking about where

545
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: sports betting is, Legal, yeah they're probably just getting a

546
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: bunch of action on. It probably has no, Impact like

547
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: they probably don't, Think, oh The New York guardians.

548
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: Are the top two.

549
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: Teams so, yeah when you look at the week on on,

550
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: spreads you can. Tell there's also another huge discrepancy With

551
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: HOUSTON la we'll talk about later THAT i. Found but,

552
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: YEAH i think THAT i would just consider them an

553
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: average team at this. Point but the REASON i do like, them,

554
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: like IF i invest like a win total the, over

555
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: their team might be pretty resilient just because they have

556
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: three solid. Qbs they Have matt, Mcgoin Markis, williams And Luis.

557
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: Perez SO i think even if they get some bad

558
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: injury like the quarterback all teams might have that happen this,

559
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: year they'd be able to survive with you, know two

560
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: quarterbacks going, Down SO i think that gives them a

561
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: lot of resiliency for future. Bets although they did have

562
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: two of their top three receivers already suffered injuries that

563
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: place them on ir SO i think that that took a.

564
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: HIT i, mean that was two of the three top skill.

565
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: Picks you have to factor, that and they took a

566
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: bit of a hit in terms of injury like before

567
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: the season even. Started But i'm less concerned about wide

568
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: receiver AS i would, be you, know Like dallas Where

569
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: Landry jones might be, out that's going more impact on the.

570
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: Spread but when you see a cluster injury like, that

571
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: especially on a new team like, this that could impact

572
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: their passing game to start the. Season So i'd be

573
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: careful with them, initially BUT i think, OVERALL i think

574
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: having three solid quarterbacks on the roster helps them long.

575
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: TERM i agree. There i'm a little bit dubious About

576
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Kevin gilbride and whether he can really adapt to THE

577
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: xfl because last we saw you, know he let his

578
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: offensive system with The New York giants get kind of,

579
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: stale so it will be interested to see what. Happens

580
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: he's brought IN. G. A mangus to be his offensive

581
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: coordinator and quarterbacks, coach and you, know he was the

582
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator For Cuts Down university and you, know spent

583
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: time With South. Carolina he's you, know has a reputation

584
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: as being someone who's pretty, innovative and it looked like

585
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: he was doing some pretty interesting things in the college,

586
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: ranks so maybe he could kind of help spruce up

587
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: that offense a little. Bit to your point about the

588
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: wide receivers that they have ON, ir they actually have

589
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: four wide receivers ON ir right, now so two of

590
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: the guys that they were planning to start and two

591
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: guys who are going to be depth. Players so they

592
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: are pretty thin at the position right, now which means

593
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: that their number one receive, Receiver michel, McKay i, think

594
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 2: is going to be someone who's pretty popular and who

595
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: will get a lot of, action especially In week. One

596
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: he was one of the better, Players i'd, say a

597
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: top top, five maybe even top three wide receiver in

598
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: THE aaf last, year and someone else who is intriguing IS. E. J,

599
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: bibbs who is actually a pretty productive tight end in

600
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: college At Iowa, state and just given how thin that

601
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: this team is at wide, RECEIVER i could see him

602
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: getting a little more action in week. One Uh AND

603
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: i think people are going to stay away from tight

604
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: ends in, general SO i think he could be super

605
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: contrarian and he might be like one of the two

606
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: or three tight ends who actually has a chance of

607
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: contributing something in this slate and for this. Season, raymond

608
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on The New York. Guardians, YEAH

609
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: i think that this might be A i think this

610
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: might be a.

611
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: TRAP i think they're like they have pretty good they

612
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: have a pretty good quarterback, room but as you, mentioned

613
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to hit at the wide

614
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: receiver in.

615
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: PARTICULAR i think that When i'm looking at this and

616
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: then they have kind of this.

617
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: Committee, Backfield Tim, cook you, know short yardage, Guy, like

618
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: no one really stands out to me Except michael McKay

619
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: in terms of difference makers on this. Offense so you,

620
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: KNOW i think that when you look at the futures

621
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: market and you, see LIKE E sewan, said they've probably

622
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: taking a lot of money On New york Because Tampa

623
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: bay has a you, know longer odds to win the

624
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: championship in most books Than New. York they're at you,

625
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: know four four and a half to, one Whereas New

626
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: york is at four to one on draftings at least.

627
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: Anyway and and yet you, know at, Home New york

628
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: is the.

629
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Dog so that that's kind of telling you that the

630
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: MARKET i think is pretty off in terms of the

631
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: perception of of of this team Of New york versus the,

632
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: reality so that.

633
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: This is the Team i'll probably be.

634
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Fading to be, HONEST i THINK i think McKay is

635
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: is very. Interesting but he, is If i'm not, mistaken

636
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: the most expensive receiver on the. Slate oh, no second,

637
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: most second most ye, yes so, No but that all

638
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: that kind of adds up to to kind of paint

639
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: a picture of a inflated perception of a big market,

640
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: team perfect opportunity to.

641
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: Fade all, Right, well let's talk about the other team

642
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: in this, Matchup Tampa Bay Vipers. Raymond as you, mentioned

643
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: they have longer. Odds the best NUMBER i was able

644
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: to find out there is plus five. Fifty that is

645
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: a number that's kind of lingering out. There that's at

646
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: BET mgm at most. Books at this, point they are

647
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: now plus four, hundred and it's been bet down in

648
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: part because a lot of people people notice That caesars

649
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: opened their win total at seven and a, half which

650
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: is the highest in the, Market so people were looking

651
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: at the wind, total looking at the longer odds to,

652
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: win and they were just hammering that future's. Number so

653
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: plus five, fifty if it is still out, there you

654
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: can find it at BET. Mgm that is a line

655
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: THAT i think you would be interested in hitting if

656
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: you are interested in the futures market for this. Team

657
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: they are favored two and a half at The New York. Guardians,

658
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: sean what are your thoughts on The. Vipers they are

659
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: coached By Mark, trestman who has had success in THE,

660
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: cfl AND i think if there's a league in which

661
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: you would want to see someone have success and think

662
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: that that could transfer to THE, xfl it would be THE.

663
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Cfl he's had intermittent success with The Chicago. Bears how

664
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: are you approaching this?

665
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: Team, YEAH i think you're. Right with THE cfl experience is,

666
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: huge one of the better coaching staffs of the, league

667
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: and they had their loaded with pass. Catchers unfortunately they

668
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: Lost Antonio callaway TO i thought he was gonna be

669
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: one of the best receivers in the, league so they're

670
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: gonna be without, him so we have to factor that.

671
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: In BUT i mean when it comes to the win,

672
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: total despite thinking that they're probably the best team in the,

673
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: LEAGUE i cannot bring myself to bet the over seven

674
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: and a half wins before we see them. PLAY i,

675
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: mean that's betting on them to win eighty percent of

676
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: their games or. MORE i think that's. INSANE i think

677
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: betting the under seven and a half win total it's

678
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: probably the only BET i would actually encourage to just max.

679
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: Bet so just having said, that, like, YES i do

680
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: think they will be probably the top team to start the,

681
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: season but there's just not enough information to be that

682
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: bold with a preseason. Projection SO i have them closer

683
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: to six, wins AND i Think i'm being. Aggressive SO

684
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: i think there's about a win and a half of

685
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: value in that. Market you, know the futures to win the.

686
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: CHAMPIONSHIP i think you're bringing a little bit of luck betting,

687
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: Those BUT i think when it comes to the win,

688
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: totals those are the ones where it's easier to just

689
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: take advantage of the unsurrety heading in the. Season so

690
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: taking it under on a seven and a half number like,

691
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: THAT i think is the way to go. Here despite you,

692
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: KNOW i, think you, know we'll talk about a guy

693
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: Like Aaron. MURRAY i think he'll be good IN. DFS

694
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: i think this team will be one of the faster paced,

695
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: teams one of the more dynamic offenses FOR dfs, purposes

696
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: but just sports betting enough to be a little bit

697
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: careful because we really don't know how any of these

698
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 3: defenses are quite. Yet SO i think take with a

699
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: grain of salt just attacking IN dfs and fade him

700
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: in sports.

701
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: Betting right, Now, Yeah i'm almost ignoring defenses because, ONE

702
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: i think it's it's pretty hard to evaluate defensive players,

703
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: individually and then, two so much is dependent on the,

704
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: unit and, uh you, know we really have no idea

705
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: of knowing what these units are going to look. Like

706
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: So I'M i, MEAN i don't want to Say i'm

707
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: one hundred percent ignoring, defenses but ninety nine percent ignoring

708
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: Defenses Like I'm i'm pretty much ignoring. Them So, RAYMON

709
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: i want to get your thoughts on. This Mark trustman

710
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: in the past has been known as a guy who

711
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: has fed a lot of targets to his running. Backs

712
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: what is kind of weird about his group of running

713
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: backs now is that he doesn't have a guy who

714
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: is kind of like a clear established past catching. Back

715
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: and so in doing the, PROJECTIONS i found myself wanting

716
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: to give a lot of targets to his running, backs

717
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: but looking at the running backs that he actually has

718
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: and thinking, Like, YEAH i don't really see this guy

719
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: being like the locked in pass catcher for this. Team

720
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: so how are you approaching the skill position players in

721
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: the running backs in?

722
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: Particular, WELL i THINK i Like Aaron murray a lot IN.

723
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: Dfs he actually is coming up as my number one

724
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in our, projections just a slight hair above some

725
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: of the other. Guys SO i Like murray a. Lot

726
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: he's only nine based nine K, yes that is the

727
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: one two. Three he's like the sixth most highest priced

728
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: quarterback depending if you Know johnson And Landry. Jones shut,

729
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: Up But Mark tressman is really a guy a TRUST

730
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: i think.

731
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: In all various forms of.

732
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: Football he's a GUY i think on offense has continuously proven,

733
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: himself at least in terms of putting up. Numbers, so you,

734
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: Know Aaron murray was a guy in in THE af

735
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: had a you, know the touchdown interception ratio was three

736
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: to SEVEN i, believe but which is not.

737
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 4: Great but he.

738
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: Had the highest completion, percentage or one of the, highest

739
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: at sixty four point eight, percent and he was averaging

740
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: about five yards per carry as.

741
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: Well SO i think this could be an explosive.

742
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Offense and you, know not exactly sure when WHEN i

743
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: look at the pass, catchers as you allude To, freeman

744
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: how the targets are going to break. Down SO i

745
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Think murray would be my favorite play from this team

746
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: until we get more of a kind of you, know

747
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: sense of, okay you, know how these receivers and running

748
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: backs and the tight end is going to break. DOWN

749
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: i do think they're tight End Nick trusdell he's probably

750
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: going to. BE i would say he's probably the.

751
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: Top tight end.

752
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Play.

753
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah so that's you, know THAT'S i think that.

754
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Stack you, Know murray To, trusdelle that's probably the the

755
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: two Players i'm most interested.

756
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: In of course on.

757
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: DraftKings you know why it's all, white it's all pass,

758
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: catchers there's no tight, end so you, know it's not

759
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: like he is necessarily you, Know trusdell is like a

760
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: guy that you must play because he's the top guy to.

761
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Position he's still sixty nine, hundred which is somewhat pricey

762
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: among the pass. Catchers but, YEAH i think those two

763
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: guys stand out and then everyone. ELSE i mean they

764
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Have Sentavian jones And Stacy Coley tanner McAvoy like a

765
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: bunch of Guys dante DIE i, mean a bunch of

766
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: guys with this kind of like fringe semi pro OR

767
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: nfl experience that you just you don't really know exactly

768
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: how those targets are gonna are going to break.

769
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah i'm with you there on On, trusdale who

770
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: was easily the top tight end in The alliance last.

771
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: Year and one thing that's, interesting like we just saw

772
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: A Super bowl in which we had the two best

773
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: tight ends in the game going against each. Other you

774
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: can see the benefit that you get as an offense

775
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: if you have a tight end who presents a lot

776
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: of mismatch. Options AND i think that's what they see With.

777
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Trusdale they actually drafted him in the first, round which you,

778
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: know seems ludicrous to take a tight end that, high

779
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: but obviously they saw something in, him AND i think

780
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: they really want to use him because of the versatility

781
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: that he. Provides So, Trudelle, yeah, DEFINITELY i think the

782
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: top tight end and someone who despite his position or

783
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: like regardless of his, position might be viable as a

784
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: flex option if you wanted to go that, route but

785
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: you might not need, to but one of the few

786
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 2: tight ends you might actually be able to provide. Value

787
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: sean who stands out to you from A dfs.

788
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Perspective, YEAH i agree with you guys On, truesdale but

789
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: unfortunately there's no tight end. Position he's in the flex

790
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: SO i mean he's pribace out as the top tight,

791
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: end but not as like the twenty second, receiver which

792
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: that's WHERE i would have him. Ranked so you kind

793
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: of have to spend up to be a contralleron.

794
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: There BUT i love that.

795
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: CALL i think the one GUY i THINK i could, see, like,

796
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: okay So Quintin flowers is sort of The Taysom hill

797
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: guy in this. Offense, YEAH i could see them throwing

798
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: it to, him and then we haven't talked about it.

799
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: Yet this the double four. Pass, yeah, yeah so he can.

800
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: Chuck it after he catches the. Pass SO i think

801
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: he could be a secret weapon that trustman's sticking here

802
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: where you, know they throw him a pass you, know

803
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: into the flat and then he runs with, it and

804
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: then you, have you, know a receiver going down the.

805
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Sideline he could throw it to. Him So I'm i'm you,

806
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: know looking to target some of these like quarterbacks that

807
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: are playing out of position BECAUSE i think they're going

808
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: to be valuable in that. Aspect AND i don't know

809
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: if we're going to see any double passes week one

810
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: or every team's gonna be using him. Like that's sort

811
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: of the UNCERTAINTY i think heading Into week one where

812
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: that could be you, know pretty dynamic for a player

813
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: Like Quentin. Flowers so he's intriguing at running back, again

814
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: he could put up a, zero BUT i think they

815
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: could use him as sort of a chess piece where

816
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: they can have him throw it after he touches the ball.

817
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: Too one hundred percent agree On Quintin. FLOWERS i think

818
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: he is like the the like prototype for the like

819
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: all around guy who can throw the, ball run the.

820
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: BALL i think he actually might end up being the

821
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: guy that used the most as the receiving back, actually

822
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: and Then tanner McAvoy was also a quarterback in, college

823
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: and SO i have him projected for you, know like

824
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: zero point eight pass attempts in this. Game you, know

825
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: LIKE i think that they actually will go a little

826
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: bit heavy on the trickery and using non quarterbacks to

827
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: throw the. Ball let's get into the next. Game, here

828
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: one pm On, saturday the FIRST xfl game of twenty.

829
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: Twenty we have THE Dc defenders against The Seattle. Dragons

830
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: THE Dc defenders plus seven point fifty at BET mgm

831
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: plus five hundred at most books in their odds to

832
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: win the. Championship their win total is five and a

833
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: half At. Caesars they at this point have been bet

834
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: up to seven point favorites versus The Seattle. Dragons, sean

835
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: what do you think of THE Dc. DEFENDERS i like.

836
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: HIM i like their roster head, Coaches Pat hamilton sort

837
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: of THE qb whisper With Andrew. Luck and he Has

838
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: Cardell jones who's still young raw he could end up

839
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: being the top quarterback in the. LEAGUE i love the running.

840
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: Backs presley led THE af and rushing. Yards HUMPHREY i

841
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: thought would have been a decent pass catching back in THE.

842
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: Nfl and then the Receiver Rashad, ross he was a

843
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: stud in THE AF i Like Eli, rodgers he has

844
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: A nfl. Experience so they're a TEAM i, think you,

845
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: know they have potential on paper at the roster and

846
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: the coaching staff where you, KNOW i think they'd be

847
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: a team where if you just want to bet in

848
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: coaching and quarter quarterback, potential they'd be the way to.

849
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: Go but the market has, definitely you, know pegged them

850
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: as being that. Team so they're minus. SEVEN i think

851
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: it is week, one So i'm not going to be

852
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: taking any team minus seven week. One but there's just

853
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: a Team i'll probably investing in in terms OF, dfs

854
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: and you, know if they were to lose week, ONE

855
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: i could see buying back into them week two BECAUSE

856
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: i do think they have the, roster so they're a.

857
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: Team i'm just kind of eyeing long, term but not

858
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: getting on right.

859
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: Away, raybon what do you?

860
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: Think, yeah you, KNOW i think when we look at this,

861
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: TEAM i THINK i like some of the receivers.

862
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: DEFINITELY i think you, Know Rashad, Ross Ei, Rodgers Simmy,

863
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: cobbs those are Some those are some guys with some

864
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: decent h some decent.

865
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: Talent, here and then you know they have Kry lee

866
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: a tight.

867
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: End they Have nick Bro sat at running back who

868
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: was a solid kind of plotter for The, pats and

869
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: of Course Presley pumphrey with a guy kind of that

870
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: like baby Darren sprolls never really panned out for him In.

871
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Philly BUT i like the weapons, actually you, know all.

872
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: Around and then card like Car Cardio jones IS i

873
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: think a little bit too expensive at at ten point TWO,

874
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: k but you know you kind of look at the

875
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: team and then you, say you, know you could see

876
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: how he could pay off that. Salary SO i think

877
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: in tournament this is gonna be a team That i'm

878
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: attacking in tournaments pretty. Heavily and you know they actually

879
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: who is their backup quarterbacks Like Tyree. Jackson so this

880
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: is a Fun. JEAN i, mean, like this is A

881
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: this team just strikes me as is pretty, explosive you,

882
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: know pretty pretty good mix.

883
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: Of just talent and explosiveness all around on the. Offense so,

884
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: YEAH i like this. TEAM i think it's a great turn, team.

885
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: AND i think we could assume their defense is. Good

886
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: considering their nickname The, defenders or that'd be funny if

887
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: you know they're the worst. Defensive their team name is The, defenders.

888
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: So their defense is bad and they have all of

889
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: these guys on, offense it be a RIDICULOUS dfs like fantasy.

890
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: Like.

891
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: YEAH i think that they have a pretty decent chance

892
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: to be one of the higher scoring teams in the.

893
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: League and as you, Mentioned Tyree jackson is the. BACKUP

894
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: i think perfectly suited to be the backup To Cardell,

895
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: jones kind of similar style of. Play SO i like

896
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: them quite a. Bit The Seattle, DRAGONS i don't like.

897
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: THEM i look at this team AND i don't know

898
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: IF i disliked them as much as The Saint Louis,

899
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: BattleHawks BUT i really don't like the combination Of Jim

900
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: zorn as the head coach And Mike riley as the

901
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator or play. Caller don't think it works well at.

902
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: All not really enamored with their quarterback Room Brandon silver's Bj.

903
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: DANIELS i think at some point we will see you

904
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: some flip flopping back and forth between those. Two if

905
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: you look at their, odds they are the lowest in

906
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: the league twelve to one At DraftKings and really across the.

907
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: Industry their win total of three and a half At

908
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: caesars is tied for the lowest with The Saint Louis.

909
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: BattleHawks as we, mentioned they are seven point road dogs

910
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: against THE Dc defenders this. Weekend, SEAN i, mean is

911
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: there anything at all to like about this?

912
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: Team, no BUT i think they are supposed to have

913
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: one of the better home field. ADVANTAGES i think they're

914
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: the first team that's sold. Out they're on the road week,

915
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 3: one SO i wouldn't bet them, there BUT i think

916
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: maybe at home they might post values underdogs at.

917
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Home BUT i think you're.

918
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: RIGHT i think they are probably the worst. Team, yeah

919
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: they're the lowest ranked team in my power ratings to start,

920
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: there but that, again that should be nothing, Really but,

921
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean their, ROSTER i don't even know who's

922
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: starting week. ONE i MEAN Dj daniels And Brandon silver's

923
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: they're pretty much the same in my, opinion so it

924
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: doesn't matter who. Starts so that's not. Good when you

925
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: have a team where you don't even know who's starting at,

926
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: quarterback that's a bad time to. Start Jim, ZORN i

927
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: think he's been the longest away from. Football, yeah out

928
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: of all the head. Coaches so that's a major red. Flag,

929
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: again they kind of remind me OF i think it

930
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: Was Saint louis WHERE i would say their strength is

931
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: the running. Backs they Have pharaoh And. GARDNER i, mean

932
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 3: they're kind of like an Af All star team at running.

933
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: Back but JUST i think this, league if your best

934
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: units you're running, back that's not a good. THING i

935
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be Running. LIKE i think

936
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna want a good quarterback and good, receivers AND

937
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 3: i just don't.

938
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: Think they have.

939
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: That so that'll be great at the beginning of the.

940
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: Game they can just Use pharaoh And gardner to, start

941
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 3: but then they're gonna need to. THROW i think that's

942
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: the recipe for. Disasters. YEAH i Think seattle's probably the

943
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: worst team to start the.

944
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Year their number one wide receiver right now looks like

945
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: It's Keenan, reynolds who is a quarterback At. Navy, Yeah

946
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: like this is not this is not a great. Situation

947
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: like they really don't have a true number one. Receiver.

948
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah and another, point they kept five tight. Ends, yeah

949
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: so it's it's pretty clear they're just gonna be a

950
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: run heavy. Team so let's we'll see how that. Works

951
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: but maybe in that, case maybe the unders in their

952
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: games might be an ANGLE i might attack early. ON

953
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: i could see them being a team that sort of

954
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: favors the Under what do you, Think.

955
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah it's not h it's not very exciting. HERE i

956
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 4: think it's another.

957
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: TEAM i think the main, benefit like main use of

958
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: them would be dfs uh kind of stacks game stacks

959
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: because it's another. Team seems like they're gonna be on

960
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: the on the losing end or you, know they're gonna fall.

961
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: Behind they are seven point underdogs. Here so a guy

962
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: Like Cason. WILLIAMS i Think Cayson williams had some moments

963
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: in the preseason for for we with The seahawks as,

964
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: well so you, know kind OF i think he's a

965
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: guy That i'd be looking.

966
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: For and then, Yeah Keenan.

967
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: REYNOLDS i think those two guys kind of stand out

968
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: for me because you will get their tight, end you,

969
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Know Evan, Rodriguez like those guys aren't Really Connor.

970
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: Hamlet they have so a lot a lot of Former.

971
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: Seahawks but, yeah like It's Pharaoh, Pharaoh Cason williams And Keenan.

972
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Reynolds those are the three guys that stand, out AND i,

973
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: think you, know if you're your kind of buildings of

974
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: stacks WITH, DC i think they're worth bringing it back

975
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: with in.

976
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: Tournaments all, right let's talk about this this last, game

977
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: the late game On saturday at four, pm The Houston

978
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: roughnecks against The Los Angeles. Wildcats The roughnecks you can

979
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: find them at ten to one At FanDuel for their

980
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: odds to win the. Championship their win total is six At,

981
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: caesars which is tied for second with The. Renegades they

982
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: are four point favorites at home again against The. Wildcats

983
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: this team is. Interesting June jones is the head coach

984
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: and the play, caller godfather of the run and shoot

985
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: offense and so keeping on. Brand this team does not

986
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: have a tight. End it's not, like, oh they're not

987
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: going to play a tight. End they literally don't have

988
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: a tight end on the. Roster that's just the way

989
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: that they're going to go about. It they're going to

990
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: spread the field with four wide, receivers sometimes even five wide.

991
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: RECEIVERS i think it could be a pretty exciting offense to.

992
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: Watch at the same, TIME i think there's a lot of.

993
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 2: Volatility this this could be a, disaster But i'm gonna

994
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Say i'm optimistic at, first at Least, sean how are

995
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: you approaching this? Offense, YEAH i.

996
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: Think you're exactly. RIGHT i think they're gonna be very.

997
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: Volatile they could be either really good or really, bad

998
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: and we don't really know quite. Yet and you, KNOW

999
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 3: i would just want to point out that's sort of

1000
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: the inconsistency you see in the futures. Market you, know

1001
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: they're they're at nine to one now on FanDuel AND

1002
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: la is six to, one But houston's minus five and

1003
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: a half against them at, Home so that doesn't really

1004
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: line up in my. Opinion AND i, think if, anything

1005
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 3: you'd want to take a, high you, know very volatile

1006
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: team Like, houston you'd want them in a market like

1007
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: to win the. Championship at nine to. One you're just

1008
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: betting on upside, Anyway so who cares if they're the

1009
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: last place team that they have potential to be the top.

1010
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: Team so you might as, well if you're gonna take,

1011
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: them take them nine to one to win it. All

1012
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: and then you, know when it comes to their, OFFENSE i,

1013
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: mean it's not it's not so. Bad they Have Deangel

1014
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: henderson at running. BACK i liked. HIM i thought he

1015
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 3: was going to be a running back for The broncos

1016
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: for the next few, years SO i like. Him they

1017
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 3: Have Sammy coates really good at wide. Receiver he's only twenty,

1018
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: six and they have A qb battle. Going they were

1019
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: Assigned Philip, walker but they spent their first pick in

1020
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 3: The Skill draft On Connor, cook SO i think that

1021
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: tells me if they didn't Want Philip, walker and they'll

1022
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: probably be Starting Connor. Cook Connor cook, again he could

1023
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: be the best quarterback in the. League we don't really know.

1024
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: YET i do like his, potential but just they're such

1025
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: a vulnerable team right. NOW i just kind of assign

1026
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: them as mill of the pack right. Now so they're

1027
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: my fourth ranked team in my power, ratings just BECAUSE

1028
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: i can't really decide if They're god be good or.

1029
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: Bad but like you, said they're going to be the

1030
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: run and shoot, offense four to five wide receivers on

1031
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: the field all, times no tight, ends so they'll be

1032
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: a high scoring. TEAM i think whatever games they're in early,

1033
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: On i'll be leaning the over if the market allows.

1034
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: It, raybon what do you Think Andre williams is the

1035
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: guy That i'm thinking is probably going to be the lead,

1036
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: back although who knows how long he keeps that. Job

1037
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: and even if he keeps that job that, job who

1038
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: knows if you actually want to start him because He's Andre.

1039
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: Williams but he's someone who could be in. Play and,

1040
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: Then ashehaun, Mentioned Sammy coates really, INTERESTING i think as

1041
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: the potential to be the number one receiver in the,

1042
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: league just based on his talent and then also the

1043
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: offense that he's. In what your thoughts With?

1044
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 4: Houston it is a team That i'm having in a

1045
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: little trouble kind of projecting out some of the, Workloads

1046
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: Like Andre. WILLIAMS i, MEAN i Think i'm going With

1047
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 4: henderson is as the top bat for.

1048
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: THEM i Think Sammy, coates you, know he actually he

1049
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: projects out as my number one receiver right. Now unfortunately

1050
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: he's ninety three, hundred so you, know super a high

1051
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: price Is Sammy. COATES i do think that he you,

1052
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: know he's a, great great tournament for a ton of,

1053
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 1: upside and then you, know the receiver depth chart after

1054
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: that is kind of you, know they Have Sam mobley

1055
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: who played in the you know in THE aaf didn't

1056
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: really do do too. Much Cam, phillips who spent some

1057
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: time with the The Buffalo, bills but has what is,

1058
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: it first percentile feed burst uh and forty yard dash

1059
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: according a player.

1060
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: Profiler so he's just kind of a you, know a

1061
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 4: six feet two hundred.

1062
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: Guy you know, that you, know maybe maybe he can

1063
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of get get some things going in the in

1064
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: the red zone or, whatever but it's really tough for

1065
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: me to kind of figure out the. Workload so it's

1066
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: not a Team i'm going to be really investing too

1067
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: heavily in UNTIL i THINK i can see a little.

1068
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Better but you, know one of their, BACKS i do

1069
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: Like James. Butler he is a guy WHO i think

1070
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: he's spent some time with The Oakland. Raiders, yeah and

1071
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: he really stood out in the, preseason AND i wouldn't be,

1072
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: surprised you, Know, freedman you said it's kind of up

1073
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: in the air with you, know these running. BACKS i

1074
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: Think butler's listed his fourth on the jet chart right,

1075
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: now Behind, Williams howie And. Henderson BUT i think that's

1076
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: a fluid. Situation AND i mean from the from the

1077
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: women in Action i've seen out of all four of

1078
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: those those, GUYS i would Say butler is the most

1079
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: talented of, them SO i wouldn't be surprised if he

1080
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: over takes that job over sooner than. Later.

1081
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: ONE i don't think he's going to play a big,

1082
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: role but who stands out and will kind of be

1083
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: an interesting litmus test to, see like how aggressive teams

1084
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: are with their double forward. Pass Is Blake, jackson who

1085
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: was a quarterback AT d three At Mary hard And

1086
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: baylor and now is a wide, receiver you, know a

1087
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: speed a size speed, specimen and given that there are

1088
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: going to be you, know four to five wide receivers

1089
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: on the field at a, TIME i think it's actually

1090
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: there's a decent chance that he could be someone who

1091
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: gets more playing time than you would expect for someone

1092
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: who's a little bit lower on the wide receiver dev.

1093
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: Chart and given his his skill as a, QUARTERBACK i

1094
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: could actually see them using him a little bit both

1095
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: as a passer and as a. Runner so he's Someone

1096
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: i'm going to be keeping an eye. On all, Right

1097
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: let's get to this final team here at The Los Angeles.

1098
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: Wildcats you can find them at six to one at most.

1099
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: Books But William hill and maybe again this is just

1100
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: An iowa. THING i found them at nine, one so

1101
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: something to keep an eye. On be sure to shop.

1102
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: Around the win total At caesars was. Four they are

1103
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: four point underdogs on the road In. Houston this Isn't

1104
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: it's an interesting team Because Norm chow is going to

1105
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: be the offensive coordinator for a team that has a

1106
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: defensive minded head. Coach you, know we are a long

1107
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: time removed from The Reggie bush glory days OF usc

1108
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: When Norm chow was the offensive coordinator. There since, then

1109
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: his performance has been kind of hit or. Miss you,

1110
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: know things weren't great with The Tennessee titans when he was.

1111
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: There you, know maybe had one decent season With Vince

1112
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: young as the, quarterback but not a lot to be happy.

1113
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: About there wasn't great AT, ucla wasn't great At. Utah

1114
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: things didn't really work out all that well At. Hawaii

1115
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: and he's been coaching high school since. Then So i'm

1116
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: kind of pessimistic about what we're gonna. See that, Said

1117
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: Josh johnson could be the best quarterback in the, league

1118
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: so it's hard to know how to balance. This Elijah

1119
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: hood has the potential to be one of the top

1120
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: running backs in the. League, sean what are your thoughts?

1121
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: Here, YEAH i agree with you. THERE i think you,

1122
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: know like you, Said Josh johnson could be the best

1123
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: quarterback in the. League he was still GETTING nfl. INTEREST

1124
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: i think The lions it, was wanted to sign him

1125
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: and then he got blocked because of HIS xfl. Contract

1126
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: but you, know he's more of a running. Quarterback we'll

1127
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: see how that works in the league like THE xfl

1128
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: and How Norm chow handles. It but, yeah like you,

1129
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: Said Winston moss is a defensive head, coach SO i

1130
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 3: could see. THEM i don't know if they're gonna be

1131
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: good on, defense BUT i could see them playing good

1132
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: defense and running a lot. More you Mentioned Elijah. HOOD

1133
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: i do Like Larry rose as. Well Jwan harris has

1134
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: sent AN nfl. Experience their receiving core doesn't look. Great

1135
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: Trey Rick bryde could be one of the top, receivers

1136
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: AND i do Like Nelson, spruce but other than, that

1137
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: it's pretty. Thin AND i think they do have probably

1138
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: the second best tight in the league With Brandon. Barnes

1139
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 3: there's there's potential, there BUT i just don't Really they're

1140
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: hard to, peck so they're one of those teams WHERE

1141
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: i don't really know how they're gonna. Do they could

1142
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: be either really good or early. Bad so right now

1143
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 3: you just have the middle of the pack just because

1144
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: they're they're kind of hard to figure.

1145
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: Out, raymond what do you THINK i should point out

1146
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: That Josh johnson is as the game time decision this

1147
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: weekend and with a an, injury an unknown injury by the,

1148
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: WAY i can't even find out what the injury is

1149
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: but Exactly.

1150
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: If it's his left, shoulder who. Cares but if it's

1151
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 3: just like right, knee then we have some. Issues.

1152
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't know WHAT i DON'T i don't really

1153
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: know what to make of this other than the line

1154
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: seems to be moving in favor, of you, Know houston

1155
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: and away FROM.

1156
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: La so you know it's. TOUGH i Backup Chad Kanoff cardinal.

1157
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: Who has spent some Time.

1158
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: Princetonason, yeah So I'M i Think i'm Knocking johnson down

1159
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: a little BECAUSE i don't know how healthy he. IS i,

1160
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: mean it seems like the injury reporting is going to

1161
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: be frustrating at least that. Here so for a guy

1162
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: that depends a lot on his legs for for, VALUE

1163
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: i am a little bit concerned, here especially with the

1164
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: line moving against. Him so this may be a situation

1165
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: where even if he's clear to, play, uh he potentially

1166
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: could end up being over. Owned and uh, YEAH i

1167
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Think Elijah hood is a guy who who's who's.

1168
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: Attractive they might want to wean on.

1169
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Him sean mentioned you Know Nelson, spruce so he is

1170
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: he's pretty expensive at eighty five. HUNDRED i think a

1171
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: couple of guys in this middle tier that maybe the

1172
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: middle tier in general doesn't get touched much in IN

1173
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: dfs because you, know you have some these kind of

1174
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: like big names at the, top and then you have

1175
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: all these you, know you have values like Jash ferguson

1176
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: and guys you can get. In but a couple of

1177
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: guys with some with SOME nfl, experience uh said blacknaw

1178
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: And trade McBride figured to be among the among the.

1179
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: Receivers so If johnson does not, play especially then you

1180
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: Have kanoff and he's more of a pocket, passer which

1181
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: would then open up more OPPORTUNITIES i think for the.

1182
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: Receivers so it kind of comes down to the news

1183
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: we get On. Johnson but If johnson's going to be,

1184
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: in then THEN i think it, hits it hurts the

1185
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: receivers a little. Bit if he's gonna be, OUT i

1186
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: THINK i think they might get a couple more.

1187
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: Opportunities all, Right, sean you said if you had to

1188
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: pick one one bet to, make it would be under

1189
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: seven and a half wins for The Tampa Bay. Vipers,

1190
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: raymond if there's one bet that you were going to,

1191
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 2: make do you have a sense of what it would

1192
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: be out of the futures or the win totals or maybe.

1193
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: Anything In week, one.

1194
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: The LINE i like the best Is Tampa bay as

1195
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 4: a short road.

1196
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: FAVORITE i think like if there wasn't A New york,

1197
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: TEAM i think this would be an even bigger. LINE

1198
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: i think THEY'RE i think they're a team that's clearly

1199
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: inflated in the, market AND i just don't like looking

1200
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: at the two teams on, paper that's the TEAM i,

1201
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: like AND i think people are gonna kind of that

1202
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: line isn't going to probably shift too much because you,

1203
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: know it's a team on the road and you just

1204
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: always expect there to be a.

1205
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 4: Home field, advantage and It's New york and it's this and.

1206
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: That so in, me the favorite with the shortest spread

1207
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: in week one and The Tampa Bay vipers going To

1208
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: New york to face the.

1209
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,880
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1210
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,280
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