1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: There's the shotgun, snap, the fielding's back fields, looking fields, pressure, hip, 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: the behind. He's going down. Now he's stayed up, phil 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Now he's going down down. Get it down sacked. Welcome 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: It is Week fourteen in the NFL, and oh, we 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: got a big one at Ford Field on Sunday. It 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: is the Detroit Lions and the Minnesota Vikings. And here's 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: what's on the line. Minnesota Vikings can clinch the NFC 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: North title. UM, keep track right with with Philadelphia there 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: um eleven and two UM, and and have that number 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: two seed in the NFC. And for the Detroit Lions, look, 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: I think the tie between Washington and New York Giants 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: hurt them last week. UM, I don't know if nine 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: wins is going to be able to get it now 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: UM in terms of making the wild card in the playoffs. 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: And so I think they gotta gets ten wins and 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: he gets ten wins, that means they gotta win out. 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: And so huge game this week for the Detroit Lions 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: as they host the Minnesota Vikings. I expect Ford Field 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: to be rowdy. I mean, just given what it was 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving, giving what it was for Jacksonville. With what's 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: at stake this weekend and it's the Minnesota Vikings, I 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: just expect Ford Field to be rowdy and it should 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: be fun in there. Just a couple of news and 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: notes as we kick off this week's twenty in the 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast. You know, there's a little bit of the 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: flu bug going around. You know, we see a few 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: more masks around the building here in Alan Park and 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Jeff Alcuda, Calif Raymond, Nate Sudfeld backup quarterback all you 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: know missing practice this week due to illness. So look, 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: it's that time of the year. Those guys are still 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: being involved in meetings and stuff like that. You know, 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: in the case of Jeff and Raymond, maybe a couple 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: of days off practice, So Busto's legs a little bit 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: heading into Sunday, I don't think this at this point. 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like anyone's gonna miss game time because 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: of it. You know, we'll obviously have to see what 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: the game designations are on Friday's practice and injury reports are. 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: But you know, something that I think every team is 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: probably dealing with around this time, A couple you know, 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: other quick things. Romeo Aquara, who returned to practice on Thanksgiving, 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: was needed about another week after you know, being inactive 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: last week against Jacksonville. Talked to him on Wednesday, he said, look, 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: he's ready to play. I think the plan is for 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: him to play. And look, just another pass rusher for 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: this team, right, and this defense has been playing so 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: well over their current four one stretch. You got Aiden Hutchinson, 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: John Kaminski, James Houston has been good a last couple 49 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: of weeks, Josh Bascallas back off that knee injury. Now 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: you add a guy like Romeo Aquara, and look, now 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Romeo hasn't played in over a year. I think he 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: tore that achilles on October to three of last year. 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: So it's been over a year, and so I would 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: expect the lines to do what they've done with everybody 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: returning from kind of that long term injury. What they 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: did with Jerry Jacobs is you know, just give him, 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, a few reps here, there's some critical third downs, 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: some obvious pass rush situations, get him back acclimated and 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: kind of let him get his feet under him. Now 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: he's a veteran player. I don't think he needs it 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: as much as say a Jerry Jacobs or Jamison Williams 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: to kind of ease them along. But I would expect 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: to see Romeo on Sunday and look, just another pass 64 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: rush weapon for Aaron Glenn Right. I would expect also 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: to see more wrestler Jamison Williams. You know, he had 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: eight on offense last week. Again, hadn't played in a 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: game since you know, the National Championship game for Alabama 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: back in you know, last January. So you know, let 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: him put the pads on, getting the huddle, you know, 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: see what the pre game is all about. Get some plays. 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: They threw him one ball. He had eight snaps. I 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: would expect that to maybe double. I think maybe the 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty range, and maybe have one or two plays 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: specifically for him. I think that'd be big. And James Houston, 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: look his third sack and just his second game last week. 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's still learning the entirety of 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: the defense, both in base package and sub packages and 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of his responsibilities and that, let's not forget this. 79 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: This young man was on the practice squad running the 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: show team three weeks ago. So it's gonna take a 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: little bit of time for him. But I think the 82 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: more he gets comfortable with those kind of things, the 83 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: more reps he'll play. But look, if the young guy 84 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: continues to make plays like he is, he's just gonna 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: get more reps excuse me, in those pass for us situations. 86 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: So I would expect to see that we see a 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: little bit more of Jmo, a little bit more of 88 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: James Houston, And like I said at the top, I'm 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: just looking forward to this environment. I think this team 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: is playing so well right now. They've built, you know, 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: pretty good rapport with the fan base with the way 92 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: they've played over the map last month and a half 93 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: that I think people are going to show up at 94 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Ford Field. I think it's going to be a rowdy environment. 95 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: It should be fun, and the Lions are looking for 96 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: five and their last six and to start their second 97 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: consecutive winning streak here to end the season. So I've 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: got a really busy podcast for you. I got Kevin 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: Steffert of Es and he's gonna join me. He's gonna 100 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: break down the matchup Sunday between the Lions and Vikings. 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I got a linebacker Alex ANZELONEI joining me. He's been 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: playing some really good football right now. We're going to 103 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: talk defense of what the Lions need to do to 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: stop in Minnesota on Sunday and PJ Clark joins me 105 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: for the MGM key matchups. So it will be uh, 106 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: it'll be fun podcast. Stay with me as we break 107 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: everything down as we head up to a big game 108 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Sunday at Ford Field, Vikings versus Lions. Welcome back to 109 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the Twentymen in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, and 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I am happy to welcome in Kevin Seyffert of ESPN. 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: He does a great job covering the Vikings. But keV, 112 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: that's not your only role with the ESPN. I know 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: you've recently expanded. You cover officiating, rules, player health. You're 114 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: into a little bit of everything over there. So great 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: to have someone of your status and caliber joined the 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Twentyman the Huddle Podcast. I appreciate you. I appreciate you 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: having me man. So, keV, let's start with this. A 118 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: two football team that has a chance to win a 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: division goes on the road to a five and seven 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: football team and they are not favored to win. When 121 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: was the last time you can remember something like that happening? Well, 122 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's ever happened. There was a 123 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: when they played Dallas at home. They were I think 124 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: the first time like an eight and one team had 125 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: not been favored at home that late in the season. Ever, 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: So they've already and that was actually a good call. 127 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: They lost by thirty seven points to the Cowboys. So 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Vegas usually knows. But this is my understanding is that 129 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if this has ever happened in this 130 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: particular scenario, that a ten and two team playing a 131 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: five and seven team this late in the season home 132 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: or away has ever not been favored. But it speaks 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: to the way that they've won games and the way 134 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: the Lions are playing right now in both cases, you know, 135 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: and I know you were an article recently about this. 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: The nine wins by one score to start the season, 137 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: that's an NFL record, has never been never been done before. 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: They're nine and oh in those games? What is it 139 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: about that team that they just kind of figure it out? 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: They find a way Week three against Detroit was a 141 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: great example too, but just time and time again, they 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: just kind of find a way to make that play right. 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: And it's amazing because last year I think they had 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: more one score losses than any team had ever had, 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: and so they've made one hundred and eighty degree turnaround 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: with the new coaching staff, and I think the new 147 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is a big part of it. He u 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: He started his playing career in New England, where they're 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: very good situation situational players and coaches. Learned a lot 150 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: from uh, you know, from the Kyle Shanahan's of the 151 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: world and the Sean mcvays in terms of how to 152 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: manage a game. To maximize those small opportunities, you have 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: to change the direction and so he's very aggressive as 154 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: a play caller right before halftime. Those are huge moments 155 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: in games and we all know that, and at one 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: point they were leading the league and scoring in the 157 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: four minutes before halftime. They've been very good in fourth 158 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: quarter takeaways. That's a big part of winning close games 159 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: is when another team is trying to to get ahead 160 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: and you intercept them. I think they have more interceptions 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: than any team after the start of the fourth quarter. 162 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: The red zone defense has been good. I can't remember 163 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: if it was a red zone stop or just to 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: stop overall on fourth down against the Lions. That kind 165 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: of set them up to have a game wining score. 166 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: But it's that kind of stuff and so a ton 167 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: of situational excellence really that they've had. That's a big 168 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: part of it. And the other part is they're really 169 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: a veteran team. When you look at their frontline players, 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: it's all guys who have been doing this for a 171 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: long time, starting with Kirk Cousins and the Dalvin Cooks 172 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: and the Adam Feelings of the world. Adding TJ. Hockinson, 173 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: who I think is pretty savvy player, as you guys 174 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: will know, and a lot of those type of guys 175 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: on defense, and Patrick Peterson as well, who and Patrick 176 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: Peterson calls himself up the closer like, and he's had 177 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: a lot of plays to literally to end the last 178 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: opportunity that an opponent had to take a lead in 179 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And so you add all that up 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: together and it covers for a lot of the things 181 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: that happened in between the two guns of the beginning 182 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: and the end of the game. To help explain who 183 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: wins and who loses. You mentioned t J. Hockinson, how's 184 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: he adjusting over there? I mean, you look at just 185 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: the targets in the catch I think was nine seven 186 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: five five. I mean he's been pretty involved since he's 187 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: got there. Yeah, I think the only tight end who 188 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: has been targeted more since he got here in the 189 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: entire league is Travis Kelsey. So that speaks to how 190 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: much they're using him. I mean the first week he 191 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: got here, I think he got here on a Tuesday night, 192 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: first practice was Wednesday. You know, he crammed the playbook 193 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: and ended up playing like sixty of sixty seven snaps 194 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: in that game against Washington and had a bunch of 195 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: catches too. And David Blow, the former Lions quarterback who's 196 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: there the Vikings practice squad quarterback, actually helped him translate 197 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the Lions playbook into what the Vikings called and so 198 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: that he played a big role in then. So Haginson, 199 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, from a just from a number standpoint, he's 200 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: been one of the most productive. I think he's also 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: second and catches and yards by tight ends since he 202 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: was acquired here too, So he's been as productive as 203 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: any tight end of the league in terms of receptions 204 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: and yards since he got here, And so that speaks 205 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: I think to how eager they were to get a 206 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: path catching tight end who who could stay on the 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: field and how much that's paid off for them since then. 208 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: And I'm speaking with Kevin Seaford of the ESPN does 209 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: a great job covering the Vikings over there, Kevin, first 210 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: time for the Vikings and Lions, you know, second time 211 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: around against a team in the NFC North, that was 212 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: Week three. This is week what thirteen? Now, I mean, 213 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty long stretch there. How is this 214 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: Vikings team different than the one that the Lions saw 215 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: maybe Week three, outside of obviously t J. Hockinson, which 216 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: we talked about. I mean, that was kind of where 217 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: they started winning games the way they've continued winning games 218 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: all year. Where they've you know, they've they've been behind 219 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: a lot in the fourth quarter. They've had you know, 220 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: they started a few games off well and gotten big 221 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: leads and then had big lulls where the other team 222 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: came back. But that was really that game was really 223 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: the start of what has been happening in terms of 224 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: eking out games at the very end through either game 225 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: winning drives or game winning stops of opponents drives. And 226 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: so they've been very healthy. There's not many from a 227 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: lineup standpoint, there's not much difference in what you're going 228 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: to see Sunday with the exception obviously of Hogginson than 229 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: what you saw in Week three against you back here, 230 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: and so incredible health. Their draft class has been hurt 231 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: a lot, but those guys weren't playing back then anyway, 232 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: and so they've kind of just sustained. And we all 233 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: kind of joke in the media room that it's like 234 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: every week you're writing the same story, you know, like 235 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: they they're winning close games. Can this be sustained? Does 236 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: this mean they're good? Are they? You know? Frauds? Are they? 237 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: You know? Are they? Are they? You know? Do for 238 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: a reckoning at some point? You know? Does the law 239 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: of averages mean they're going to start losing some of 240 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: these close games at some point? But it hasn't happened yet. Um, 241 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, if the Lions, given how their 242 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: playings can can can kind of get over the hump 243 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: on on and in this close what will probably be 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: another close game. Um, but at this point that it's 245 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: been a very similar pattern throughout the season. You know, 246 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: it's a ten and two football team, it has a 247 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: chance to win the division. UM this week is but 248 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: do they feel disrespected at all? Because I think when 249 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: you talk about the conversation in the NFC, right it's 250 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Dallas, that those are kind of the teams 251 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: everybody talks about coming out of the NFC, And obviously 252 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: both Philadelphia and Dallas beat Minnesota, But I mean to 253 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: be a ten and two football team, and it almost 254 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: seems sometimes that they're an afterthought in the national conversation 255 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC. Do they feel a little bit a 256 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: disrespect at all in there and in connect fuel a 257 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: team going down the stretch. I think it can definitely 258 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: fuel them if they feel that way. They're not kind 259 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: of outwardly saying so. I think, especially in the first 260 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: year of a coaching staff, and in the first year 261 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: of this team together under that coaching staff, they're more 262 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: than happy to be quote unquote overlooked and more than 263 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: happy to be laying in the weeds. If nobody wants 264 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to give them credit for being good. They still they're 265 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: still tena two, whether they get that credit or not, 266 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and they're still, you know, have a ninety nine point 267 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: nine percent chance to win the NFC North, and they 268 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: still have a very good chance to be the number 269 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: two seed, which means they'll host They could potentially host 270 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: two playoff games and three if the Eagles, who are 271 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: likely to be number one, lose before then. And so 272 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: they know they're in really good shape. And they also 273 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: know that if you're if you get out to ut 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: of your skis they I mean, they know who they 275 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: are and who they're not. And when you get to 276 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: tena two and the point differential between you and your 277 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: opponents is ten points, you know, which is what it is? 278 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty close. You know, they're at being outgained yardagewise 279 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: about sixty or seventy yards a game, and so they 280 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: know that their games have not always been pretty. They 281 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: really haven't put anybody away in a game since Week 282 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: one against the Packers, and that was one they had 283 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: all offseason to prepare for. So they know that, how 284 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: you know, thin that margin is between crowing about being 285 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: ten and two and blaboring a very hard luck you know, 286 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: six and six or something like that, which they could 287 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: easily be. And so I think there's there's some self 288 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: awareness there, but I'm sure there's some part of that 289 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: locker room that feels very disrespected and it's eager to 290 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: keep proving that they can keep winning games. He keV 291 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: Is is it safe to say that that that taking 292 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: the over might be a good bet this week? I mean, 293 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: you've got the thirty first ranked defense, you've got the 294 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: thirty second ranked defense, squaring off indoors, no whether two 295 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: offenses that have been playing pretty well. I mean, do 296 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: you expect this to kind of be a shootout? Very well? 297 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Very well? Could be. You know. The interest thing is 298 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: that the Vikings. You know that the ranking is based 299 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: on yardage, and they have teams going up and down 300 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: the field against them. Their red zone defense has been 301 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: okay as of late, and I mentioned those fourth quarter turnovers, 302 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: so they're not giving up as many points as you 303 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: would think given that that ranking. Um, but uh, you know, 304 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: I certainly would take the under on punts. I don't 305 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: know what the over under on a punch in this 306 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: game is, but I would certainly take the under on that. 307 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: And we'll see. I mean, this is the kind of 308 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: game where you know that the the individual statistics could 309 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: be pretty high in the passing game, even if the 310 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: score isn't monstrous. Um, there's gonna and that's why they 311 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: haven't been able to put people away quite frankly, is 312 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: you know they're They've had some ups and downs on offense, 313 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: but when a team can pass against you, especially and 314 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: the Vikings have given up more passing yards I think 315 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: than anybody in the NFL, if not the second most um. 316 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: When teams can pass against you the way that they are, 317 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: then they're going to be at least be able to 318 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: challenge for points and get to the red zone and 319 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: if they don't score, kick a field goal and keep 320 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: the gamest um. And that's and that's really I don't 321 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: know if there's like a thing they can do to 322 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: snap their fingers to change that at this point in 323 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: the season, but that's really, to me, the big story 324 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: of why these games have been closes. They have not 325 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: been able to stop teams from moving, at the very 326 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: least moving the ball and getting a position to score. Well, 327 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: we'll see if the Minnesota Vikings could force the Lions 328 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: to punt this week. They obviously last week did not punt, 329 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: scored on their first eight possessions. I mean, they're playing 330 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: some some really good ball right now. But Kevin, when 331 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: you look at this matchup and just a couple more 332 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: tungue with Kevin Seffert from espn UM, what what's maybe 333 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: a key matchup or one or two maybe key matches. 334 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: When you look at to this weekend and say, boy, 335 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: if the Vikings can come out on the right side 336 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: of these maybe couple matchups, they've got a great shot. Well, 337 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: the big the two big things where the Vikings have 338 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: gotten hurt on is their pass protection UM and UH 339 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: and their their coverage in the secondary. I mean, they 340 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: play a lot of soft zone UM and they rely 341 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: on that front flour that includes Daniel Hunter and Zadarius 342 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: Smith to to get home. And when they don't, because 343 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: they don't blitz a whole lot UM, no matter who 344 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: your your defensive backs are, UM, it's tough to it's 345 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: tough to keep with receivers and not let them find 346 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: the holes in the in that zone if if the 347 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: quarterback has three you know, three plus seconds to to 348 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: make the throw and so uh that's that's a place 349 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: where you know, you look at the way last year's 350 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: game ended, um uh with the Lions winning on that 351 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: touchdown pass, Like that's that's the matchup. I think that 352 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: favors and Lions that they have some some pretty good 353 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: skill position players at receiver UM that match up favorably. UM. 354 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: The Vikings have a have had some injury. The one 355 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: place they've had injuries is that cornerback and so they're 356 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: hoping to get Cam Danceler back from injured reserve this week. Um. 357 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: And you know, he was the defender on that game 358 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: winning touchdown last year, and so if you're a Lions fan, 359 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, sure, we'll take them back. But he's 360 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: been a little better, but they've had a lot of 361 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: other injuries behind him. So if he somehow doesn't get 362 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: back from ir this week, that's going to be a 363 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: very position. And the other one, you know, getting back 364 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: to pass protection is if you look at some of 365 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: the way some of the reasons Kirk Cousins hasn't put 366 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: up the numbers that he has. I think he's played 367 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: pretty well, but if you look at why he hasn't 368 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: put up some of the numbers that he has in 369 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: previous years, Um, he's getting hit a lot and he's 370 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: getting rushed a lot. Um. They have, Um, you know, 371 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Christian Darrisaw has been a really good left tackle, but 372 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: he's missed two games with a concussion. We're not sure 373 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be able to play this week. They 374 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: have a rookie at guard at Ingram who's really at 375 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: a trial by fire situation, and there's three or four 376 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: plays every game where he just gets walked back right 377 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: into Kirk cousins lap. And so that's that's something to 378 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: look at, and we know that the Lions have some 379 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: some active players up front, and that's a place where 380 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: I think the Lions could make them hay as well. 381 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: If they don't, then and Kirk Cousins gets the time 382 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: that he needs and and Dalvin Cook gets rolling as 383 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: a result of that, then then that's a pretty good 384 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: outcome for the Vikings. Interesting from that from that first 385 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: game Week three, two zero euro sacks for the Vikings 386 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: in that game, only two quarterback hits on Jared Golf. 387 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: I think that's a big one too. Now that Jared's 388 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: got all those weapons back on the outside, this is 389 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: the healthiest the Lions have been. We're gonna see Jamison 390 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Williams a little bit more too. I think it's really important, 391 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, for that Vikings defense. If they're gonna slow 392 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: down Detroit at all, they've got to do much better, 393 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: you know, getting trying to get a hand on him, 394 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: getting a hit on him. If they go no sacks, 395 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: two hits. They're gonna have to score some points I 396 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: think against this Detroit Lions team. And and final one 397 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: for you cav Is is just you know, the Minnesota 398 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Vikings go to eleven and two, they win the NFC 399 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: North if what happens in Detroit on Sunday, I guess 400 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: I can't just say if they score more points. Huh 401 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: that would be the first time. Now, yeah, that somebody 402 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: says that, I know, it's um you know, I think. 403 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you make a very good point about about 404 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: the Vikings pass rush getting home. That's true for any team, 405 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: and especially this one that doesn't blitz a whole lot. 406 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: But I would say, um would I would put it 407 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: back on the offense and say, if Kirk Cousins gets 408 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: the time to make the throws against this defense. We 409 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: know that the Lions defense has given up some points 410 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: in some yards and if and if as and he 411 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: can get that going early, and if Dalvin Cook, they 412 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: can then bring Dalvin Cook behind that and get some 413 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: some gains on the rushing yards and sort of control 414 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: the ball and keep minimize the opportunities. The Lions have 415 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: to do what we were talking about to the Vikings defense. 416 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Then I think that's the way they'll win. Well, it 417 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: should be a fun win, Kevin. I mean, the Lions 418 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: are playing some pretty good ball right now. Obviously Minnesota's 419 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: playing good ball. There's huge implications on the line, a 420 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: division title on the line. It's the NFC North. It 421 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: should be fun. Thank you so much for joining me. 422 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: Great stuff as always, safe travels here to Detroit and 423 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: I'll make sure I stop buying Say hello sounds good 424 00:20:53,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: thanks to him. Welcome back to the twenty in the 425 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast, and I'm now joined by Library backer Alex Anzeloni. Alex, 426 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. I appreciate you. You guys are 427 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: playing so well defensively right now. And look you're the 428 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: guy in the middle, right, you've got the green dot. 429 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: You're calling it. You're getting guys in the right spots. 430 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: What do you see as the biggest difference with how 431 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: you guys are playing defensively over the last five six weeks. Yeah, 432 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: I think AG hit it with us, um, you know 433 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: earlier maybe this week or last week, but I think 434 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: we're finally playing from the front end, the D line, 435 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: the linebackers, DB's intertality altogether. Um, you know, I guess 436 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: you could say complimentary, Um, you know, just doing your job, 437 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: marriaging the pass rush, with the with the coverage and 438 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: all those all those things, you know, And I don't 439 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of people realize that. At the beginning 440 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: of the year, it was it was like you Alim 441 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: Tracy as basically guys who were returning you know it, 442 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: We're familiar with this defense, We're returning pieces. And then 443 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: there were a lot of young guys and a lot 444 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: of new pieces. You guys obviously lost Tracy week three. 445 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: And do you attribute maybe some of that that slow 446 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: start just two guys learning, Yeah, young guys having to 447 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: go and just you guys learning to play with each other. Yeah, 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: for sure, I think that. Um, you know, we do 449 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of new guys on the defense. Um 450 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: there was some turnover, but yeah, like and especially Tracy 451 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: going down, you know, put a lot on Deshaun's plate. 452 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: And now he's coming around playing really good football as 453 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: of late. So um, yeah, I mean some of that's 454 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, attested to that. You know, when I look 455 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: at the last five six weeks too, it's your ability 456 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: to turn the football over, right, those those crucial plays 457 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: and you just look at your play, a forced fumble, 458 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: a fumble recovery, a sack and interstation and interception. Excuse me, 459 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: the impact plays. It seems like you guys are getting 460 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: a lot more of those. That's been the biggest difference. Yeah, yeah, 461 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, as a defensive player, those 462 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: are the plays you want to make. You want to 463 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: make those splash plays, and um, you know that's really 464 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: what's what's most important, you know, defensively again, turnovers, creating 465 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: those explosive plays that really changed the game. And um, 466 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: we definitely haven't had an emphasis on it, uh, you 467 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: know the past eight weeks and yeah, it's been we've 468 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: been in production out of it. You know. Just Shan 469 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: set the tone last week on the second play of 470 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: the game with that hit and then you jump in there, 471 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: so you have to tell us what is it like 472 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: being down the bottom of a pile like that, because 473 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't one where you just jumped on. I mean 474 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: you you took the ball from somebody. Did you know 475 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: what happens at the Yeah, I mean nothing crazy, nothing 476 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: dirty or anything like that. But yeah, you don't really 477 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: know who has the ball who doesn't. And you know, 478 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you see the ball, 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: you just grab it. You don't care who has it 480 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: or what's going on. And um, you know, until someone 481 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: of ref pulls you off the pile, you're still going 482 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: in for it. So it's just a giant wrestling match, 483 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you know they're 484 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: pulling guys off and yeah, you know, someone may have 485 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: had it, but then they're getting pulled off, you know. 486 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: So it's a mess. But yeah, you just gotta gotta 487 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: find a way. You get a chance of the Vikings 488 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: again this week and second time rolling through them. Just 489 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: what kind of a challenge do they bring? Obviously look 490 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: at some of the skill pass but playing at home 491 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: and now you guys playing much better defense than you 492 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: did week three, how much you're looking forward to this 493 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: match up? Yeah, yeah, we're looking forward to it a lot. 494 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: We're excited to play in front of the front of 495 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: our fans again. Um, I know they're gonna be it's 496 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: gonna be packed and loud, and we feed off that defensively. 497 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: And you know, we just had some guys that filled 498 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: in pieces from week three and you know, you look 499 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: at Jerry and um, you know, Mike Hughes playing corner 500 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, um, you know those guys have really brought 501 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: a brought an element to our defense that's you know, 502 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: really helped us a lot. That's a key point by 503 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: you because Jerry wasn't available you know, week three, and 504 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: you know you had some issues with penalties, but just 505 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: his physical style, the way he plays him he's playing 506 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: good ball. Yeah, yeah, he's he's he's young, he's still learning, 507 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: but yeah, he uh, he's playing really good football and 508 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: he's thinking thinking about Jerry's He's gonna compete no matter 509 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: who it is, or where we're at or what's going on. 510 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: So he has that dog in him, Yeah, he does. 511 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: So I want to take you back to training camp 512 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, just because your son was always there 513 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: at the end of training camp every day and it 514 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: looks like you've got your hands full with him Cooper, right. Yeah, 515 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: he's going to be about two. Yeah. I got a 516 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: kick out of it every day watching you run around 517 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: trying to chase him around. He's either into the end zone, 518 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: into some of the equipment up on the hill, just 519 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: you chasing behind him. How fatherhood tell you, like, Yeah, 520 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: it's awesome. I mean it's the best best thing ever. 521 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's he's wild man, he's uh, you know, 522 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: he's active, and he's learning how to settle down and 523 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: controlled settings. But we're still working on that. But yeah, 524 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: he's the best football player in the in the we'll see, 525 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: we'll see. There's a lacrosse in your background too. Yeah. 526 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: I don't think people know you're quite the lacrosse player. Yeah, yeah, 527 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: so you were recruited by like some IVY leagues. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, 528 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: so I had some interest from there, and then I 529 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: started getting football offers. But I really thought, like sophomore year, 530 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just going to play lacrosse in college, 531 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: So I started taking my SATs early and getting that 532 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: all plugged away. But yeah, then start getting football, you know. 533 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: So I wandered over and I asked Tom Kennedy about you, 534 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: just he had ever heard or your lacrosse pedigree or whatever. 535 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: He said, he was more recruited than I was, right, 536 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and Tom played professional. Yeah, it's all relatively, but you 537 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: and Tom go out and play, who wins? I mean, 538 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: I don't know TK t K. You've got some dynamic 539 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: ability per se, but you know, I don't know how 540 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: fun is it playing defense? Right now for for Aaron 541 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: Glenn seeing some of the young guys like Aiden and 542 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: Kirby and yeah, and some of those guys just start 543 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: to develop and make plays and just just how fun 544 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, it's fun. I think that. Um, you know, 545 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: playing defense, you have to have a certain mentality. Um, 546 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: you have to fly around, you have to hit, you 547 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: have to make plays. And how we've been able to 548 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: do that and the young guys have definitely stepped up 549 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: and done that too. And um, we're all kind of 550 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: buying into ag culture and what he wants defensively, and 551 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: we've been in production out of it. Well, it's been 552 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: fun to watch, Alex. I appreciate you taking the time. 553 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: It should be a ruckless atmosphere at Ford Field. Good 554 00:26:52,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: luck to you. Thanks, appreciate you. Man. Welcome back to 555 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: the Twentyman The Huddle Podcast. Is now time for the 556 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: Key Matchup segment of the podcast, presented by bet MGM 557 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: and I am joined by digital producer Extraordinaire. Does a 558 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: little bit of everything including join me after every game 559 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions. He is PJ Clark and we 560 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: are He's back because because I love the segment last week. 561 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: So and obviously, you know, you do great job after 562 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the games, and so let's break these down piece. You 563 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: know how it works. We've got five key matchups, a 564 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: couple a little different, you know, the first time the 565 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: Lions are rolling it back playing a team. So we 566 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: looked back a kind of some of the matchups we 567 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: looked at the first week, wanting to make them a 568 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: little bit different. Obviously some will be the same. But 569 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: let's start off right away with the most important position 570 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: on the field, and that's the quarterback position. And when 571 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: you look at these two quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins for the 572 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: Vikings and Jared Golf for the Lions, I think Jared 573 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: Golf deserves a ton of credit for the Lions being 574 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: five seven. Um. You know, obviously the defense has played 575 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: much better over the last month and a half. The 576 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: special teams has been really consistent. You know, Michael Badgeley 577 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: was the u NFC Special Teams Player of the Week 578 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: after making four field goals. But to me, the way 579 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: Jared Golf has kind of transformed his game a little bit. 580 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: You look at that start and they obviously started off 581 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: hot offensively, but some of the turnovers were an issue. 582 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: Right the pick six Week one, the pick six against Seattle, 583 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: you had the fumble that was returned for a touchdown, 584 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: and those were key plays and in close games. The 585 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: New New England game wasn't close, but week one, week 586 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: four against Seattle, you know, those made those made a difference. 587 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: And you just look over the last um you know, 588 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: five games where Detroit's four and one, seven touchdowns, one interception, 589 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: making all the right plays, but not making the mistake. 590 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: And that's that's the key is that I think on 591 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: this stretch, not turning the ball over has been the 592 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: biggest thing. And he's also as the Lions have gotten healthier, 593 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: Amanda Saint Brown was banged up early in the year, 594 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: that Dallas game, the New England game. All that he's 595 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: back to full health now obviously has been great. DJ 596 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Shark is back off, I are Josh Reynolds is coming 597 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: back and getting back into the swing of things. I 598 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: think as the team has gotten healthier, he's building even 599 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: more of a rapport with the new guy, DJ Chark. 600 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: But it also has his best friend Josh Reynolds back 601 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: in the Safety Blanket album and Ross Saint Brown. All 602 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: of it is coming together right now at the right 603 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: time for the lines, and Jamison Williams is getting more 604 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: into the mixed quintest cepist returned to practice this week. 605 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's that's another guy that has been good 606 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: with golf when he's been on the field then over 607 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: the last two years. And so you know, it's a 608 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: good point by you. He's the gang's getting back together again, 609 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: as they would say in the wide receiver room, right, 610 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: and Jared Golf is going to be the beneficiary of that, 611 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, the next five games. And you look at Cousins, 612 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, twenty nine hundred and thirty three yards, eighteen touchdowns, 613 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: nine interceptions, which is a little high eighty eight point 614 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: six passer rating. So you look at Cousins and Golf, 615 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: just the statistics, you gotta see Golf's having a better year, 616 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: even though it's that's hard to say because Minnesota's ten 617 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: and two getting mv people. When you when you look 618 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: at when you look at head coaches and quarterbacks, it's 619 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: about wins, right, That's what they are judged on in 620 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: this league. And so look, Kirk Cousins has won more game, certainly, 621 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, but I think this is a key matchup. 622 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: To me, when I look at nine interceptions and for 623 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: Cousins seven interceptions for golf, though none in his last four. 624 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Who makes less mistakes? Right? It doesn't, Isn't that what 625 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: It's going to come down to the game like this. 626 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: In a game like this where the defenses, as you 627 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in the show, the defenses are thirty first 628 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: and thirty second, that there's going to be opportunities to 629 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: put points up. So whoever kind of steals one and 630 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: steals a possession, I think that could swing the game. 631 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: But Cousins is coming off a game against the Jets 632 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: kind of struggled, was not his best game of the year, 633 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: under five yards per attempt, which is never where you 634 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: want to be as a quarterback. So he's going to 635 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: be motivated, I think to kind of throw the ball downfield. 636 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: Obviously Justin Jefferson is a very good target to do 637 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: that with. But you got to steal possession somewhere along 638 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: the line here if you want to win this game. 639 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: So that'll be a key one. Let's flip the page 640 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's go to Adam Theeland versus Jerry Jacobs. 641 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: A big one, and it's a big one because obviously 642 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: everybody would say, well, what about jeff Okuda and Justin Jefferson, 643 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: And I saw that's the obvious one, right, we know that. 644 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: And look that Detroit did a great jeff on Justin 645 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: Jefferson in the first game, and I think they're gonna 646 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: look at that film and probably do some of the 647 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: similar things to try to take him out of the fold. 648 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna double him a lot. But when 649 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: you do do that, now they've got to deal with TJ. 650 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Hockinson a little bit more. But in that game previously, 651 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: Adam Feeland beat them, like you know, he took advantage 652 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: of the one on one matchups he had. He won 653 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: that matchup over Amani or wire a pretty clearly six 654 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: catches sixty one yards, had a touchdown while Jefferson only 655 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: had three catches for fourteen yards. And so when you 656 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: take one thing away, which the Lions really used resources 657 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: to take Justin Jefferson away, well, now you've got to 658 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: win those one on ones too, And it'll be interesting 659 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: to me because now they've got Jerry Jacobs. They didn't 660 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: have Jerry Jacobs week three and it was and it 661 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: was a Moni's worst game with all this, A lot 662 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: of the penalties that he had and some of the stuff, 663 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: and it kind of started that role of him losing 664 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: his job eventually. But look, Jerry's been good for them. 665 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: Um he's tough, he's physical, he'll come up at smack you. Um, 666 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: he competes. Um. You know, he gives up a few 667 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: passes here and there. But but I think just the 668 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: way he plays opposite um Jeff Okuda, I think that's 669 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: that's a great matchup in this one. Adam. Theeland's just 670 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of that old trusted guy, right, that that guy 671 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: that Kurt Cousins, you know, just they are lean on, 672 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: can trust in third downs, critical situations, and so to me, 673 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be the key matchup in 674 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: this one. I actually really like the matchup for Jerry 675 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: just in terms of playstyle. Theeland is an older, slower, 676 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: more physical type guy. But Jerry is a very physical 677 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: man corner, wants to get in your face, bump you 678 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: off a route, like, get to the catchpoint, knocked the 679 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: ball out of your hands kind of guy. I think 680 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: it's easier to do that against a slower guy where 681 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: you're not worried about getting burned over the top like 682 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: Dealing is is older possession receiver. I really like the 683 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: matchup for Jerry. I think he can use his physicality 684 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: and kind of, you know, try to steer as such 685 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: a feeling as a timing guy who has such a 686 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: good back and forth with Cousins. If you steer him 687 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: off route, make a move a little bit out of step, 688 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: that could knock something off of timing for sure. And 689 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: we talked to Brian Duker this week, who's you know now, 690 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: the defensive bats coach for the Lions. He's been so 691 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: since they let you know, let every present go, and 692 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: he said it is a little bit different with Jerry 693 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: back there. It's it's a different defense. It's a physical 694 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: it's a more physical unit. I think they're a better 695 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: cover man coverage um unit, and so it'll be it's 696 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: a good matchup. And I agree with you. I like 697 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Jerry in this one where he doesn't where he can 698 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: just go up and play physical, doesn't have to worry 699 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: about is he gonna take a step. And I think 700 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: it allows the Lions too. I don't think you always 701 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: have to worry about feeling down down the field, you know, 702 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: in that go route and so what are you going 703 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: to do with Jefferson, what are you gonna do with 704 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: t J. Hockinson and can you divert some safety help 705 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: to maybe some of those areas of the field, the seams, 706 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, the middle part of the field, and trust 707 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Jerry to do just seeing on Adam thieland on the 708 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: opposite side and kJ Osbourne again, the guy who caught 709 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown in Week three that was right 710 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: down the seam. That was a slot route that now 711 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to kind of maybe with Jerry just 712 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: locking down that one side, Mike Hughes, Will Harris, whoever's 713 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: playing them, Nickel, you can slide a little bit more 714 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: help that way as well. Speaking of it a cornerbacks, 715 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: let's look over and go to you know, the other 716 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: side of the football with Minnesota's cornerback Patrick Peterson has 717 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: been doing it at a high level for a long 718 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: time time and he's been really good for them. And 719 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: I think that match up with him and you can 720 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: pick up a bunch of pick your poison. But I 721 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: think the DJ chart one, I think is going to 722 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: be interesting. I could see him matched up on DJ 723 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: chart because he does have a little bit of size 724 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: and you know, you know the Lions are gonna try 725 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: to get dj Chart down the field. He can still 726 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: run with from even though he still run with them. Um, 727 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: and it looked this line's offense is different with which 728 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: art and which ark healthy. I mean, it's the vertical threat. 729 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: We saw it last week with with the go route 730 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: down the right side that set up it's a touchdown. 731 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: It's just that the threat even is just it changes 732 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: how defenses played them. Yeah, and I think coming off 733 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: of his best game of the year, I would like 734 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: to think DJ Chart gets a little more involved and 735 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: you're starting to see the confidence between him and Gough 736 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: kind of increase week by week. And now hitting that 737 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: deep shot down the right sideline exactly, you just you 738 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: know you have that in the bag now and I 739 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: would be surprised if it didn't come back out again 740 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: this year. But Patrick Peterson he's been clutch. I mean, 741 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: he sealed that Buffalo game with two interceptions for them. 742 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: This year, he has twelve pass defended, which is fourth 743 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: in the league. He's getting thrown at, but he's making 744 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: plays on the ball when he does. Opponents are completing 745 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: sixty percent of their passes when they throw on Patrick Peterson. 746 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: He's only given up two touchdowns all year, and opposing 747 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have a seventy point nine rating when throwing at 748 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't like throwing at that guy. No, I don't 749 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: like throwing at him either. But you're gonna have to 750 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: and you've got to trust. I think if you're Jered 751 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Golf and I think that's why last week was so important. 752 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: You've got to trust that he can go up at 753 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: six foot four and make that play right, get get 754 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: himself a fifty fifty ball. Even the touchdown against Buffalo 755 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: was a fifty fifty ball that that you just throw 756 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone and trusted your guy 757 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: was going to be there, and he outphysicaled the corner. Yeah, 758 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to do against, you know, 759 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guy like Patrick Peterson. It'll be 760 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: interesting to see if Jamo you know what they do 761 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: with him, if he gets out there and sees himself. 762 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: You really want this lined up against Patrick Peterson, That 763 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: to me will be an interesting one. Yeah, the young 764 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: guy against the old corner. I'm sure Jamo grew up 765 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: watching Patrick Peterson. You know absolutely, that one will be 766 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: interesting for sure. All right, let's flip we mentioned TJ. 767 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: Hockinson obviously was traded to Minnesota. A little familiar with 768 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: a little familiar with that guy, and look, he's been 769 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: good for them. It's been awesome. I mean, I think 770 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: he's got my thirty catches, thirty catches in five games. 771 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: In five games, Um, it's got the one touchdown. I 772 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: think his targets are right up there among the most 773 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: and the second among tight ends during that stretch. And 774 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting what they just what Detroit 775 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: decides to do coverage wise with him. If it's a linebacker, 776 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: to me, I think it's it's probably maybe Kirby because 777 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna, like to Sean, you know, kind of play 778 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: his game, physical, be the the you know guy it 779 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: comes down in the box if you need for the 780 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: run game. And so I think we're gonna see more 781 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: often than not, maybe Kirby in that matchup, especially when 782 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: he's going down the seam and um doing some of 783 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: the more intermediate routes that they've been doing with him. 784 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: UM kind of like what he did here. UM. I 785 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: just think that'll be that'll be an interesting matchup, but 786 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: it'll certainly be strange seeing TJ. In purple Cord Field 787 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: absolutely coming going on the far sideline. It's gonna be. 788 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: Its gonna be a little bit. But I think nine catches, 789 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: seven catches, five catches, five catches, four catches and a 790 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: touchdown in his five games with them. I mean they 791 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: throw the part of a focal point. And that's why 792 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: you trade so much to go get a guy like that, 793 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: especially mid season when you're looking at your roster and 794 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: the struggles that they've had at tight end and you're 795 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 1: looking at now you're ten and two, you can really 796 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: make a run at this. You needed dynamic athlete at 797 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: the tight end position who can stay on the field. 798 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: If Smith has been banged up a lot. But TJ 799 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: is doing it, and when he trade so much for 800 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: a guy, you want to give him the ball, and 801 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: they have clearly made it the point that they're gonna 802 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: do it. He shows up on a Wednesday and he 803 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: at nine targets, nine catches, seventy yards or something like 804 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: that his first game. So it's been that way off 805 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: the cuffs for him. I mean they've they if they 806 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: own him the football ready for it, can can Kirby 807 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 1: steal one? I think that's that's your ball. That's that's 808 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: your the guy, right, And so when you're throwing to 809 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: you know, guy like TJN. Can he step in front 810 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: and one can he go up and steal fifty fifty ball? 811 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: And to me, if you're gonna get a key turnover, 812 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: like it's that guy, it's proven. It's hammer Aiden, you know, 813 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: somehow Someway. That's just what it's been. Yeah, even though 814 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: last week credit to Deshaun Elliot for forcing that fumble 815 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: and and and Alex jumping on it. So um, there 816 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: are options. But if you know, when it comes down 817 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: to it, who is the guy you want to force 818 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: a turnover, It's got to be Kirby. And I think 819 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: you're seeing how well he played against Tonyon, which is 820 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: a similar athletic profile of the hockey, and the kind 821 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: of routes that green Bay had him run. I mean, 822 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: he was lights out in the green Bay games. So 823 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: I think you've kind of seen it a little bit 824 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: what Kirby might be able to do one. All right, 825 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: let's finish up with this one. You know, we talked 826 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: about Aden Hutchinson a lot, and and you know obviously 827 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: with James Houston, he was on the pod last week 828 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: and he's been great, But to me, one of those guys, 829 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: and I know we talked about this after the game 830 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday too, is is I think a key one 831 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: in this one is John Kaminski Lions defensive end versus 832 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: Ezra Cleveland tackle um Um for Minnesota. And I just 833 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: wanted to go with a little different direction because John 834 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: Kaminsky means so much to this football team and it 835 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: doesn't always show up on the box score, U but 836 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: just some of the things that he's able to do 837 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: freeing up other guys. He does a lot of the 838 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: dirty work, and I know his teammates appreciate it. I 839 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: know his coaches appreciate it, um And and that's why 840 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 1: I think this is a big matchup because I think 841 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: he can He's in a situation where he can not 842 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: only help other guys make plays, but I think this 843 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: is an opportunity against guy like Ezrael Cleveland where he 844 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: can make some place himself. Yeah, And I think when 845 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: you're looking at it, he got hurt in the Washington 846 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: game where Aiden was great obviously, and then did not 847 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: play in the Minnesota game, and that's where you started 848 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: to kind of see whatever defensive line momentum had through 849 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: the first two games kind of got derailed because he's 850 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: the guy taking up double teams in the middle and 851 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: getting a handing into the Passingly had another pass breakup 852 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 1: last week, just just making Aiden better. And now he's 853 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: back against an offensive line that has banged up darry 854 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: Saw concussion might not play as ra Cleveland has been 855 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: better this year, been one of the better guards in 856 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: the league. But this is this is that's your stunt guy. 857 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: That is the potential for Aiden to get involved. That 858 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: is Alan McNeil. I think Kamensky just he opened so 859 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: much up by playing a variety of roles on that 860 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: defensive line and not having him in such a close 861 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: game the first time against Minnesota. I think that's a 862 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: big advantage to have him back this week. Yeah, I'm 863 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: glad you Craig Man. I think I called him a tackle. 864 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: He's obviously a guard. But you know in that guard 865 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: position thirty six pressures, three sacks allowed, there's there's some room, 866 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: there's some opportunities there. And with him playing some of 867 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: those twist games and stuff with Aiden, I think that 868 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: pressure up the middle, we talk about it all the 869 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: time with quarterbacks. That's the worst one that you can 870 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: face and kN John and Aiden and Josh Pascal who 871 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have in the previous game, and just can 872 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: some of those guys create some of the hectic activity 873 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: that we didn't see as much of the first time around, 874 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: but we've seen it lately, which has been part of 875 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: the catalyst behind these you know, this recent success. Can 876 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: they get some of those things going? But to me, 877 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: a lot of it when I watched the film back, 878 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: it all starts with John and some of the stuff 879 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: that he does, and even in the Minnesota game, and 880 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see if the Lions are going 881 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: to kind of run it back this week. Is Alex 882 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: had a couple pressures of that game and had the 883 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: sack coming right up the middle, and that's even Kamensky. 884 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: If you just you have that body in the middle 885 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: there now, that could even free up the a gap 886 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: pressure for Barnes, for Alex, for any of these guys 887 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: coming right up the middle, which you have seen on 888 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: film this year that it has worked against this Minnesota, 889 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Lee McNeil playing good in the middle, Bugs is playing 890 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: good in the middle. Add John Kaminski when they it's 891 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: a different team than it was in Week three, especially 892 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: with the depth on the defensive line that they're just 893 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: they're coming together. Now, they're coming together, and this is 894 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: obviously a very huge week. The Minnesota Vikers are looking 895 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: to win the NFC North get to eleven games, keep 896 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: pace in in, you know, with the leaders in the 897 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: NFC for for the one two seed, and if you're 898 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, you actually don't want them to do 899 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: that on your home field. But you're also at there's 900 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: more seven very much in the mix. You are in 901 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: the graphic in December, and you're gonna make a run 902 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: at this thing. I think probably gotta win out Peach. 903 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know they can maybe afford one, but I 904 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: think the more likely scenario to make it is you've 905 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: got to win out and so, um, look, they had 906 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: to get to one coming on in the in the 907 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: get to two, it's you're the one and l in 908 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: a six game season. Yeah, and you gotta see what 909 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: happens from here on out. But it's it's step by step. 910 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: But obviously this is this is a as much as 911 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: last week against a Jacksonville team that there were a 912 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: lot of similarities going into the game and blown them 913 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: out was the tone setter. I think this home game 914 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: against the division leader, a ten and two team, is 915 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: just as much, if not more. It's gonna be rugius 916 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: at Ford Field for sure on Sunday. I think everybody 917 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: knows what's on the line here. We'll break it all 918 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: down after the game. It's been a fun little week 919 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: of preparing for this one, Oh it has. It's been 920 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: a fun little It's been a really good podcast, and 921 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: we'll we'll be back at Ford Field on Sunday. Have 922 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: everything to break down for you there too, on the 923 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: Twentymen in the Huddle podcast. Thanks for joining