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Speaker 2: Oh wow, a little bit artsy on this Friday, and uh,

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Speaker 1: of that. He's aware that he is in his peak

424
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Speaker 1: moment financially to try to maximize this. I love the

425
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: idea of two of five because it's ballsy, there's big

426
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: money potential in there, and yes, it would allow him

427
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: to just make the type of historical move where you're like,

428
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: fuck it, dude, Yeah, it is either go or do.

429
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: I like John Jones more. Let's se if John Jones

430
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 1: wins the heavyweight title, but it's gonna be hard to

431
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: keep him out of this conversation. You got to go

432
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: through Tomaiav to get there, though, So give me one

433
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: more fight for Usman at one seventy's. You know he's

434
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: not gonna fight Covington in a trilogy. It's gonna be

435
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: a few more fights before that next class behind, you know,

436
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: is climbing the top ten and getting there. I think

437
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: Usman wants to try to make some crazy history and

438
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Speaker 1: find out how great he can be. And so give

439
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: me one more against Tamayev and win or lose. There

440
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: is the potential that he tries to move up and wait, now,

441
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: just middleweight, I know how to stt He's a champion

442
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: right now, so you know, but could lose it to

443
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Speaker 1: Alex Padad. A lot could happen, but middleweight, you would

444
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: in theory it would seem a shorter, smoother path to

445
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Speaker 1: try to make that type of history. We'll see what

446
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: happens there. I think this fight is going to be

447
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: a dominant win for Usman And you can tell me

448
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm crazier or stop watching now Untiluke comes back. But

449
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: that's up to you. H Let's keep it going on

450
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: topic one for the rest of the featured bouts on

451
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Speaker 1: this card and bumped up to co May, I'm sorry

452
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: to it's a comaane, Yes, comaane, that's what they call it.

453
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: It's the middleweight till between Paulo Costa and lou Crockold. Now,

454
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: I've been saying, you know, in the pregame preview and

455
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Speaker 1: our storylines hit this week, that you know rock hold

456
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: star power. You know he gets a win here. And

457
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: by the way, there's so many questions about both of

458
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Speaker 1: these guys, and that I think is the prevailing narrative

459
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: over this matchup right beyond the are these the two

460
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: sexiest fighters ever matched up in UFC history? Again, it's

461
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: up to you. I did like a well, I didn't

462
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Speaker 1: like it. I didn't like the timing that the schmo

463
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: dropped that question to Dana of are you gonna have

464
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Speaker 1: you thought about putting a title for this fight? I

465
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: think Dana thought he meant, have you thought about putting

466
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Speaker 1: an interim title? Which would make more no sense? But

467
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: really the shmo was saying, you know, b L what

468
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: was he saying? Uh bl best looking fight BLF. There

469
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, that's bullshit. But the deal here for

470
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: rock Hold is you know, I thought star power wise,

471
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: the fact that he'd been calling out on Asadi for years,

472
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: even though he hadn't been active and in the cage winning,

473
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: but yet thinking, you know, I have this the I

474
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: thought it's a no brainer if he pulls this win

475
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: and the odds are against him to do that. And

476
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second. But you know,

477
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: I think I was wrong there, And I think a

478
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: lot of people came out this week's at ABC like,

479
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: are you hearing the things he's saying about you know,

480
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: the organization calling them a mafia, the things he's saying

481
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: about fighter pay this week, which is a very good

482
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: time for that, and no, by the way. I think

483
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: you're seeing a ripple effect because rock Hold have been

484
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: making these comments to everybody, including our own Shack MAJORI

485
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Speaker 1: on CBS Sports, and it's been getting viral. John Nash

486
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: is pushing it out there. You're saw Francis and Ganu

487
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: respond to that. You saw Julia Avila put out a

488
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: long thread that I retweeted about you know what it's

489
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: like to be a middle of the pack UFC fighter

490
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: who can't afford to try to be the best they

491
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: can be as a UFC fighter. It's all very interesting stuff.

492
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Speaker 1: Would that prevent rock Hold from getting a you know, reward?

493
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: I think it would. I think I have been changed

494
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: on this discussion, whether it matters or not, that the

495
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: UFC has to be looking at these comments this week

496
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: and going, man, just shut up. How quickly can Coasta

497
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: knock this guy out? I think that's a good transition

498
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: into this fight and what it could actually look like.

499
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: So Paulo Coasta right now is a minus three sixty

500
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: betting favorite. Certainly the younger still closer to his prime product,

501
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: despite his own troubles of missing weight and losing to Vittori,

502
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: and of course, you know the red Wine against Arasania

503
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: Luke Rockold plus two ninety five In theory, does Luke

504
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: Rockhold have the guile, experience and game, especially if Paulo

505
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: Coasta continues the recent trend and fights undisciplined to do this?

506
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: Of course he does. And at thirty seven, it's not

507
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: impossible for Luke to have his Randy Cotur moment here

508
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: and and you know, Glover to share a moment and

509
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: come out as the older fighter. And in his case, look,

510
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: he isn't once since twenty seventeen knocked out three times

511
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: viciously to be fair, you know, by some of the

512
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: best strikers of that moment, but still viciously. To be fair,

513
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: it is possible that Luke rock Hold wins this. I

514
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of questions about who Paulo Coasta

515
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: really is and will be moving forward. Maybe I'm pushing

516
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: those questions more than others, but I do have those

517
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: legitimate fears that Coasta is kind of who he is

518
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: right now, wild cave man, willing to lean on his

519
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: chin and lean on his power, and I mean, maybe

520
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: that's who he was all along, although I saw more

521
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: patients and poison set up and by the way, I mean,

522
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: you'll see this in mondays. Have you seen this shit?

523
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: But anybody see the phoner? I didn't want to look

524
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: at it, but you know it's on brand for MK.

525
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: When everyone's tweeting at me that Paulo Coasta had after

526
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: was it yesterday's final press conference and they did the

527
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: face offs him. He had tight pants on to begin with,

528
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: but he looked like you know McGregor and the mayweather way,

529
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: and I mean that guy was rock hard with emotion.

530
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: And if there's any way to take a story about

531
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: a boner and actually beIN in yeah, there you go,

532
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: there's a lower third free and actually spin it into

533
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: an actual fight prediction. I do think Costa is excited

534
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: to have a moment to redeem himself, to redeem his brand,

535
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: to refresh it. I think in the end that's ultimately

536
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: why UFC made this match making. Rock Hold was just

537
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: willing to make one more run at it. And I

538
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: do believe everything by the way that rock Hold has

539
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: said this week in the regards of I found my

540
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: fighting purpose again. I found Yep. I'm sure he did.

541
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: He've been out a long time, but you know, like

542
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: it had injuries but just sort of didn't seem like

543
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: he wanted this anymore. But you know, Coast is rock

544
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: hard with emotion on Thursday. I think that carries into

545
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Saturday from the standpoint that he's going to be motivated

546
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: to come in here and knock out a name, even

547
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: if that name may not be coming through that door

548
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: on the same level he did, you know, on the

549
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: rise to initially winning the title. I think that's ultimately

550
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: the outcome. Paula Coast is a headhunter in this game.

551
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: Luke rock Hold is somebody who fights, even you know,

552
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: at his I don't want to say at his peak

553
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: because you know, the strike forced Luke rocol I think

554
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: I think, okay, here's what I'm saying. I think you

555
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: look back at Luke Rockhold's rise in definitely the twenty

556
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: thirteen TRT loss to Vitor Bellford is like an aberration

557
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: in my eyes, because I mean, you know, that was

558
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: bonzian of Vitor Belford, who was in the in decline

559
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: at that time, but to take the stuff, and the

560
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: stuff brought him to a level of quick twitch, fiber

561
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: spinning strike attempts that we've never seen, that level of danger,

562
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: fueled by the mohawk all that stuff, fighting in Brazil,

563
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, crowd going nuts. Outside of that, it really

564
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: was the title loss to Bisping that seemed to change everything.

565
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Meaning since then, not only has the narrative changed that

566
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: rock Hold's a bit chinny, but I think it's the

567
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: arrogance he's fighting with. He's fighting like somebody who knows

568
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: they're great but is living on the past a little

569
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: bit too much and maybe not making the right adjustments

570
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: physically but also strategically, but also mentally, where he leaves

571
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: his chin open too often, he lingers in situations too

572
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: long and gets caught with big stuff. And sometimes it

573
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: happens in periods where it looks like he's doing well.

574
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you didn't have a lot of great

575
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: moments against Yan Blohovitch at two five before that ended badly,

576
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: But you know, he was just a physical beast that

577
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, you know, even with him being a

578
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: bit chinny, could he really make a run here at

579
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: two a five and do some things? And then he

580
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: came out and did arrogant Luke rock Hold things. Even

581
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: if Luke Rockhold has found the purpose in the fighting

582
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: spirit again, the equation still ends with a knockout loss

583
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: to a younger, more aggressive Paula Costa who's willing to

584
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: take wild chances and really I think wants to has

585
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: had to adversity and wants to get back to where

586
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: he was. Will he get back to where he was?

587
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: Can he, let you know, massage out some of these

588
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: more eccentric ways of late. Even if he can't, he's

589
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: probably still gonna win this fight by knockout. And that's

590
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: just what it is. And it's a weird fight in

591
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: some ways. It's a sexy fight in a lot of ways.

592
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm interested in it. It could go a lot of

593
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: different directions, but I feel like I know which direction

594
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: is most likely. Now we got sound, we got some

595
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: things to throw to. I think we got a fan

596
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: question coming in related to this matchup, hopefully it's on

597
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: the up and up. And about the x's and o's

598
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: in the analysis, let's see from app people's Champ Vintage,

599
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: what do they want to know? Whose ground game is better,

600
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: who's got wilder dms? In the inbox? Rock Holder Coast

601
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: again wasn't supposed to be part of the analysis right here,

602
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: so I did ask in the pregame preview. I think

603
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I got shot down pretty hard by Luke. But I

604
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: did ask, you know who does more damage Luke rock

605
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Hold on the Santa Monica Pier short list, right, or

606
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: you know Coast on a banana hammock on the beaches

607
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: of he Oh right, And I you know it looks like,

608
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: look stop that talk. But obviously Coasta And I think

609
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: in the end I agree with him whose dms are

610
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: probably a little bit more wild. I think still Coasta

611
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: his personality also, it hasn't rock Hold looks a little domesticated.

612
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: The beard's a little unkept. You've got the embedded camera

613
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: showing him with you know, a lady partner by a

614
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: side with the family dogs. I mean, you know whether

615
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: that matters in this case in terms of a fight domestications.

616
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes it does in in sort of pulling out the

617
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: fighting spirit. Right, It's hard to be that that that

618
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: lone wolf rebel warrior attacker when things are going really

619
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: good in your life and you know, and you're happy

620
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: at home, you're in boxes, and your d ms also

621
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: I would think tend to be let Maybe I'm wrong though,

622
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: because what's the old adage, as soon as you know,

623
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: as soon as you could be you know, no one's

624
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: calling you when you. But then you get a girlfriend.

625
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Suddenly everybody's looking at you different. I get that the

626
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: answer though, Costa, And I'm sure they're you know, they're

627
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: just spectacular. I mean, there's just probably absurd. They might

628
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: be illegal. Well I have to you know, one day,

629
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: one day. Okay, maybe I'm the paid MK Patreon post

630
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: show and the Only Pipes report. Uh, you know, stay,

631
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, watch the MK in stant analysis this weekend.

632
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: But the real ones know, well, it all goes down

633
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: on Only Pipes one day, one day, we'll get that going.

634
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: All right, we do have some sound. I love Shaq

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Speaker 1: majori CBS Sports, his own French Canadian born calls Vancouver

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Speaker 1: BC home these days, the Prince of Persia himself. He

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Speaker 1: caught up with both guys. Let's start with rock Hold

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Speaker 1: and you know you hear my fears about either defensive

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Speaker 1: deficiencies or the arrogance. Let's hear how Shaq tossed this

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Speaker 1: up to Luke rock Hold to get his take on it.

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Speaker 1: Is that something you've been putting more focus on rounding

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Speaker 1: out the defense or is that maybe just something that's

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Speaker 1: a little overstated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think I think it's something I've lacked

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Speaker 4: my last two fights, and I've and I've I've kind

646
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Speaker 4: of rushed into fights and I've forced the issue. And

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Speaker 4: when I forced issues and I load up and then

648
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Speaker 4: I create openings for myself. And I think it it

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Speaker 4: comes with the tension and the territory where I found myself.

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Speaker 5: Over the last few years more than I've here.

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Speaker 4: It's been a long time man, Ralph one and all

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Speaker 4: all these other things that mount that way, and I

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Speaker 4: let it kind of get into.

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Speaker 5: My head and I left this ship weigh on my shoulders.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's just I'm not in that place

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Speaker 4: in my life. I'm in a great place. I don't

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing this for myself. I was doing

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Speaker 4: it for all the wrong reasons. He started thinking about making.

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Speaker 5: Money and not just winning world championships.

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Speaker 4: I'm not thinking about making money. I'm thinking about I'm

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Speaker 4: thinking about doing myself for Justine.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a good answer there from rock Hold,

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Speaker 1: and I do believe, you know, some of that to

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Speaker 1: be true, the whole idea of you know, maybe in

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Speaker 1: the past what got him into trouble was chasing the

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Speaker 1: money and the celebrity side of this life. And you know,

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Speaker 1: he did get sent to hell by Patti Stanger, a

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Speaker 1: millionaire matchmaker for his you know, uh, the way he

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Speaker 1: dealt with those girls, but that was obviously before on

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Speaker 1: his come up. But you get the point. Those defensive

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Speaker 1: deficiencies need to be closed. But maybe it is more

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Speaker 1: deep within rock Hold where if he did clean up

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Speaker 1: some of that some of the focus on the wrong things,

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Speaker 1: and if the focus is back where it needs to be,

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Speaker 1: and look for him to have success at thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: the focus is gonna have to be you know, undefeated,

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Speaker 1: you're unblemished. I mean, that's gonna have to be guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: a foundational stronghold structure. If it is, could this fight

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Speaker 1: be differently? Potentially it could, And let's not forget as

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Speaker 1: rock Hold's been talking all week that if he is

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Speaker 1: able to take this fight to the ground and work

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Speaker 1: from top position, I mean he's a demon. He is,

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Speaker 1: look you, it's easy. It's same thing with Chris Widman,

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Speaker 1: and then you know their careers were certainly intertwined. And

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Speaker 1: I still have the rock Hold Wideman too UFC one

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Speaker 1: ninety nine poster that never happened, but you know they're

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Speaker 1: intertwined where it's like the ways things fell apart for

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Speaker 1: rock Hold and Wideman around the same time and then

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Speaker 1: seeing them get knocked around a few times by big

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Speaker 1: names trying to recover, it can be easy to forget

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Speaker 1: what both were like in their initial runs and how awesome,

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Speaker 1: how dominant, how great. I mean, Luke Rockold, go back

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Speaker 1: and watch the Machida win. Obviously the early split decision

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Speaker 1: win against Jockaray for the Strikeforce title. But you know

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Speaker 1: how quickly hence back from that, bell Ford knockout those

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Speaker 1: wins in succession which led up to him winning the title.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know him kickboxing fantastic without him in

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Speaker 1: top position on the ground, He's nasty. He's nasty so

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Speaker 1: and he'll tell you about it. In fact, Shack asked

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Speaker 1: him about that potential. Are you, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the best grapplers in the game today and is that

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Speaker 1: an overrated part of your game? Let's go to Shaquille.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm the best grappler in them.

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Speaker 3: I really.

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Speaker 6: They don't talk about my grappling because I don't go

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Speaker 6: for submissions. I go for positions, more of a position guy,

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Speaker 6: because position always wins over submission. People risk positions by

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Speaker 6: going for submissions, and I just dominate position, and I.

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Speaker 4: Look for dominance and to beat the life out of

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Speaker 4: a fan.

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Speaker 5: So I use my jiu jitsu to gain an advantage

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Speaker 5: in position, rather than seeking submissions all the time. I

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Speaker 5: think that's a downfall of a lot of guys. Creates

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Speaker 5: tension and anxiety.

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Speaker 6: When you chase submissions, you lose them all a lot

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Speaker 6: of the time.

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Speaker 5: So I get submissions to get top position and to

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Speaker 5: gain an advantage, a practical advantage.

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Speaker 4: That's my that's my role, and I think that's a

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Speaker 4: lot of a reason why what's up?

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody competes on me in this game.

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Speaker 3: On the ground, it.

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Speaker 4: Would be a one sided show against if we ever

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Speaker 4: thought have he'd be a one side of show against anybody.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be a one sided show. I

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Speaker 4: promise you that I don't think anybody grapples in the game.

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Speaker 1: M all right. You know, I surprise that rock Holt

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Speaker 1: would be would be that confident and arrogant. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: one side of the show gets by it. But I

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Speaker 1: do like the spirit of his answer in saying because

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Speaker 1: he's put position over submission, which you hear a lot. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it does make him more dangerous in ways

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Speaker 1: that glossy submissions you know, can cover up like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of those glossy submissions because of

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Speaker 1: why he uses his uh grappling and skills to set

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Speaker 1: up everything else again could be in play for this

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Speaker 1: and I encourage you, though, to check out this interview

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Speaker 1: at length on YouTube on the Shack MMA channel Shaquiel

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Speaker 1: MAJORI a lot of rock Hold's comments, as I mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier and teased about fighter pay and unionizing and all that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't be more timely, And I think

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Speaker 1: he's feeling himself right now in terms of kind of saying, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have a ton to lose.

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Speaker 1: Let me be really honest and try to help and

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Speaker 1: educate others. And I can appreciate that, I really can.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think he was also feeling himself

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Speaker 1: this week in the press conference, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: seemed like that old spark for rock Hold was back

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Speaker 1: from at least the trash talking segment. He's talking overcast

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Speaker 1: his call on them names. I mean, I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: that in a while. I really feel like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all remember rock Hold got handled by Bizz Ping

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Speaker 1: in the trash talking lead up to UFC one ninety

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Speaker 1: nine and just you know, I mean that press conference.

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Speaker 1: I was there in La Bispink just dominated him and

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Speaker 1: kind of shut him down, and even in the postfight

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Speaker 1: pres conference after knocking him out, they were still kind

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Speaker 1: of going at it. I do see an older, wiser,

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Speaker 1: more confident rock Hold again. Will it be enough? BC

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Speaker 1: says no, But I loved Luke Rockol's game for a

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Speaker 1: long time and I'd love to see a renaissance. Let's

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Speaker 1: get though. Paulo Costa's opinion on Luke Rocold the person,

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Speaker 1: the man, the fighter. Where he's at Shack also caught

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Speaker 1: up with the Brazilian bombshell going full balls bonanza. Here's

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Speaker 1: some of this sound.

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Speaker 3: When I look for a look Hold, I see a

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Speaker 3: very Italian fighter. He has a good.

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Speaker 7: Skills on He's that like he hiked very well on

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Speaker 7: the midle of Dubai, you know, and I had as well,

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Speaker 7: So you need to pay a station on him.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm not to meet him, but when they

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Speaker 3: offered offered a look to me, uh for the first time,

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Speaker 3: I I thought, Man, I maybe maybe he's not uh

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Speaker 3: the name that I need right now, because he's still

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Speaker 3: retired for two or three years after Nobi, you know,

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Speaker 3: raise their hands and say it's fight.

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Speaker 4: I look again for for.

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Speaker 3: For his name and say, man, he's from Champion. He's dangerous,

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Speaker 3: but I'm dangerous than than him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not at liberty to disclose the location of Luke's

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Speaker 1: vacation spot right now. But while the video was playing,

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Speaker 1: he just sent me a text message of him on

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Speaker 1: the beach. It was. It was from the dong point

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Speaker 1: of view. All I see are fleshy thighs. But Luke

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Speaker 1: seems to be enjoying himself. Uh, we'll be seeing him

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Speaker 1: back here next week. Uh you saw you heard there

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Speaker 1: Coasta's comments on Luke rock Hold agains shout out to

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Speaker 1: Shack for chasing them down. But Shack did push Coast

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Speaker 1: a little on you know, a theme that's been a

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Speaker 1: big part of it. He missed way badly ahead of

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Speaker 1: the marvel Vatory fight. I think it changed a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways the way he fought that fight strategically, attitude wise.

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Speaker 1: It's been a big talking point this week. Rockold challenge

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Speaker 1: Coasta at the press conference, like, dude, what do you

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Speaker 1: weigh right now? I mean, I will say Coasta shredded.

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Speaker 1: I mean he looks ready, he looks like but but

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Speaker 1: to be fair, you know today right now checking the

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Speaker 1: way and feed and stream and figuring out if Coasta

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Speaker 1: has made it. It is a talking point here. Here's

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Speaker 1: Coasta talking to to Shack here on what happened against

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Speaker 1: Marvin Vatory.

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Speaker 3: I injury in my arm tweaks before the fight, so

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Speaker 3: I stopped u training. I decide get out of the fight.

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Speaker 3: But my team talk with me, say no, we can

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Speaker 3: do this. We use more kicks, mo white tie stuff.

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Speaker 3: I started to do at different sphins, but not training

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Speaker 3: so hard as I I should to to train, you know,

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Speaker 3: so my weight keep very high. You have still recommend that.

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Speaker 3: You know, when I came as a what was one

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Speaker 3: Monday like this and this, they put me on the

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Speaker 3: scale scales and they say, you are so heavy, it's

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Speaker 3: not so healthy. Cut one five. Let's see what you

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Speaker 3: will do if you make a carreaway or move you

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Speaker 3: to five. And after that then I say that no,

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Speaker 3: probably will two five. But it's not you know, for

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Speaker 3: one time I had problem because I was injury. It's

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Speaker 3: not because I was fat, because I was lazy or

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Speaker 3: something like. No I was trained and I did a

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Speaker 3: good performance. I think I was robbed in that fight.

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Speaker 3: But man uh, this is my division and I will

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Speaker 3: make these with my as I as we do, we

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Speaker 3: say Brazil with my legs on the back. It's so

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Speaker 3: easy to make these one five because I motivate, I

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Speaker 3: am focused, and I don't have I have no injuries

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Speaker 3: on this fright camp along six months, the first time

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Speaker 3: of my of my career, on the six months straight,

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Speaker 3: I had no injuries. So that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I believe a lot of that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I do believe not only the injury played a part,

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Speaker 1: but I just think he wasn't right. He wasn't right

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Speaker 1: in that inventory. For he wasn't right, meaning Costa in

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Speaker 1: the fallout and the hangover of the the you know,

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Speaker 1: the the reveal which really I mean they go hindsight

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Speaker 1: is whatever. But it would have been better public image

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Speaker 1: wise for Coasta to just have taken that elegance out

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Speaker 1: of Sonya and don't mention it again and we just go,

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Speaker 1: look kind of got handled and you know, they look

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Speaker 1: like some some almost self implosion, but he got handled

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Speaker 1: by a better guy then to come out the way

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Speaker 1: he did and you know. I mean, who doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a little mur low at four am before the biggest

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Speaker 1: fight of their career. I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: some of that chaos certainly carried in to the victory.

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Speaker 1: Fight week wasn't the same stakes. And I do give credit,

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Speaker 1: by the way for Coasta, who I thought fought a

846
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Speaker 1: bad fight that night in some way strategy at least,

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Speaker 1: showing a ton of heart and being in that fight.

848
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Speaker 1: But he sounds and looks a lot different from then,

849
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: and it's not only the injury that he's talking about.

850
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: I think it's mental clarity and happiness, and I think

851
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that's why he has looked so good and shredded and

852
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: ready again. How does this play into the final prediction?

853
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: It's coasted by finish coast by late round finish, first round,

854
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: late first round finish. I think rock Hold a lot

855
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: of the things he says about the new Man is true.

856
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: That new Man is still gonna get knocked out by

857
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: Paula Coasta. I think that's where the how the equation

858
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: ends just one man's opinion. Though the rest of this

859
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: card look, this might be the best fight in the card.

860
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: We've been talking about it all week. The Bandam wait

861
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: till potential title applications. Of course. In fact, Josie Aldo,

862
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: the former featherweight king we've already seen lose a bandamweight

863
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: title bid. Coming off the loss, by the way, has

864
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: rebounded so good three fight win streak. He's a plus

865
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: one fifteen underdog. But he said all week I beat Morob,

866
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: devolished Willie on Saturday. I deserve the next title shot.

867
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, name wise who he's beaten to get here.

868
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: That would be a four fight win streak, and over

869
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: somebody as red hot as Morob, who very much I got.

870
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: I got add another hammer or mallet or sickle or

871
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: hoe A lot of hoes in this wooden cabinet here

872
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: of Russian area, extended hammers, Eastern European hammers, if you will.

873
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: Morob looks like he can be of that group, although

874
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: obviously he's a little bit different Cardio wizard, wrestling all that.

875
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: But this is real here. This is a among the

876
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: most crowded, deepest, deepest dangerous divisions we've ever seen. There's

877
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: so many great fights all happen around the same time.

878
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: The guy who shows the best is good to get

879
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: the winner of al Joe versus Dillshaw and I think yes.

880
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Of course in a lot of ways, O'Malley has a

881
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: lead on this. But Josey Aldo could do big things here.

882
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: Now can he do it? That's the question. This is

883
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: a great fight, a great matchup. This is the best

884
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: fight on the card. I mean, I don't think that's arguable.

885
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: The three rounds is interesting. You know, Aaron Brodsa on

886
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday thought that would favor Devas Wheeley, that would allow

887
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: him to be a cardio maniac, even on a higher

888
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: level than he normally is. And could this be potential

889
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: kryptonite for Aldo? Of course, although Aldo obviously to be

890
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: that for that long, to be that great of a

891
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: striker and beat those names, you have to be able

892
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: to have firm take date down defense, and he does.

893
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: But there are some changes of hualdo is at this

894
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: weight class, and you know one of those one of

895
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: those hits is you know, at this age, at this

896
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: weight class, is there enough in there for him to

897
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: have to play the rag Dolph fight and play the

898
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: high level, high speed three round sprint. Well, I think

899
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: you can argue the same thing, you know, for him

900
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: over a five round fight. Two it's gonna come down

901
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: to him obviously controlling those situations to not let in

902
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: the beginning of those realities, which is him on his back,

903
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: which is him having to play ketchup and scurrying and

904
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: using up all of his you know, speed all I mean,

905
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all of his endurance and strength in trying

906
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: to fight off Morob's advances on the ground. If Jose

907
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: can do that, it is a completely different fight. I

908
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: do think at the end of the day, we're not

909
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: questioning as much. You know, when will Age kept keep up,

910
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: catch up? Excuse me with Jose because the recent run,

911
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: the three fight win streak, he's been incredible. I don't

912
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: fear that either, although you can't overlook that potential. I

913
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: think the biggest question is is how good is Morob really?

914
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: This is the fight that'll tell us that he showed

915
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: certain things and that comeback against Marice, that you know,

916
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: that play up, how strong his intangibles appear to agree

917
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: even be a pair, to be even beyond the guess

918
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 1: which may be the best in the sport today, even

919
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: beyond the wrestling ability. It's a tough sun of a

920
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: bee and you know it trains with a very high

921
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: level team and this is a huge opportunity to him.

922
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Can he raise this game if his Plan A is

923
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: not the plan that's gonna get him the win. Can

924
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: he use the speed in the cardio to raise his

925
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: striking to a level that we haven't seen in against

926
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: somebody who will need to be on point with because

927
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: Josie Aldo at bantamweight is a brick shit house who

928
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: can stop you with clean power shots, can change the

929
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: moment of the fight, can dig to the body and

930
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: hurt you. He can do a lot of bad things. Obviously, Again,

931
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: if you can see the future and tell me Morob

932
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: is gonna spend half this fight on the ground that

933
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: Morob is going to attack that gas tank. I don't

934
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: dislike Morab at minus one thirty five then if that's

935
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: the scenario, But for him to really earn this and

936
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: prove this that he's ready to be in that title picture,

937
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: because I think of all the names who are in

938
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: these big fights, we probably think Morob, you know, unless

939
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: he goes with their knocks, jose A All probably has

940
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: not as good as a chance that some of these

941
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: other guys have cut in the line and making that move.

942
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. But does he have the striking game.

943
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: I think the best scenario would be that he would

944
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: have to prove that he does that although could keep

945
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: it himself and keep his back off the ground for

946
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: long sustained periods, and that we find out exactly who

947
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: Morob is. Man, this is tough all week. I've been

948
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: back and forth, and I think you know, the odds

949
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: tell you it's fair to go back and forth. I mean,

950
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: do you like al though A plus money of course,

951
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean plub just plus one fifteen. I mean, this

952
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: has the potential to be a great fight in which

953
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: both can win it. I can certainly see all those

954
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: skill just being too much and saying, look, Morob may

955
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: have his day one day. He's very good, but he's

956
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: well rounded enough to be great. And it doesn't know

957
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't always have to be well rounded

958
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: enough to be great, by the way. I mean, look,

959
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Woostman won the championship as a wrestler. Look at Habib,

960
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: look at all of that. It's a picke man, It

961
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: really is, it really is. Jose, I do think is

962
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: the more skilled fighter. He may have more ways to

963
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: win this, but you gotta keep Morob away from that.

964
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: A game and a three round window. Maybe a B

965
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: is right. He is gonna be slinging and bringing and

966
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: really has the the onus to be as aggressive as possible.

967
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: Maybe not full on Maya versus Woodley shamelessly, I'm just

968
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: shooting all day at all night on you, no matter what.

969
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, if I have success or not. You know,

970
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. It's like this, you know, I

971
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: think a lot of us are going through Like in

972
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: the moment, you're like, I don't really know. And again

973
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: that's what makes this a great fight. There are reasons

974
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: for me to believe that Morob has a lot more

975
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: that he can show us. A little bit Younger Jose

976
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: is still Jose. I think I gotta pass them. I

977
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: gotta pull Luke Thomas and play Switzerland and just let

978
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: it play out. Great fight. Can't wait to find out

979
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: very quickly, because you know, BC promised you a hard

980
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: ninety minutes in and out here marching Taiburrow against Alexander

981
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Romanov is a very good offering to us to see

982
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: exactly where Romanov is the Moldovi and the heavyweight who

983
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: has been an astronomical betting favorite against the likes of

984
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Chase Sherman, record breaking now minus three point fifty against

985
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: the plus two ninety Tibura. Aaron Brons on Wednesday really

986
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: liked what Tybera brings to this this matchup as a

987
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: potential kryptonite needing, you know, potentially to force Alexander Romanov

988
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: to show us different things that he hasn't and that

989
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: he could be the type of kryptonite at plus two

990
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: ninety here that can do something. You know. I don't

991
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 1: disagree with that. I just think I'm starting to believe

992
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: having gone back and rewatched the complete rise here for

993
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: Romanov since coming to the UFC. Yeah, dude, this dude

994
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: is something special beyond just you know, an ability to

995
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: take take them fools to suplex city in a you know,

996
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: exaggerated Lesnar type variety, like talking about Morab potentially making

997
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: the leap into a performance we haven't seen from him yet,

998
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: because although makes him I would prefer Tybera to be

999
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: as tough as we expect his skill set to be

1000
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: against somebody like Romanov who has less experience. I want

1001
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: to see Romanov challenge. I want to see him have

1002
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: to earn this. But I think he does, and I

1003
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: think he gets the stoppage, and I think we do

1004
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: have to recalibrate how we're talking about heavyweight and the

1005
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: crowded picture isn't gone to coming back. Is John Jones

1006
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: really gonna fight in December at UFC two eighty two

1007
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: like he teased, and will that be against Steve Aranghano.

1008
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but I think Romanov's coming on,

1009
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: so watch out for that this weekend. And you know,

1010
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: shout out to Harry Humbuckler for facing Tyson Pedro as well.

1011
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: That's where I'm gonna have to hold off on this

1012
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: main card because, as I mentioned, the rest of this

1013
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: weekend is bat shit crazy. Topic number two. Now, just

1014
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: for a record, we did the full PFL nine preview

1015
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: on Wednesday show. You can check out if you want,

1016
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Navarette defending his title for ESPN Top Rank this weekend,

1017
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: but we haven't hit up BKFC London, so let's do

1018
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: that in topic too. It's gonna go down one pm

1019
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: Eastern on Saturday, in that same window that the Joshua

1020
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: Usik undercard's happening and a lot of other things are

1021
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: going on. We also PFL, as I mentioned in the

1022
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: UK as well, but this is that Circus Carnival weird.

1023
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I guess I got it. I have to see this fight.

1024
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: Michael van Impage allowed by Belator Brast to sort of

1025
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: do this one off headlining against platinum. Mike Perry, who

1026
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: has already found success at BKFC beat Julian Lane, didn't

1027
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: allow him to bang, had actually a real hard fought

1028
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: goodwin before that. And the triller what do we call

1029
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: that that ring cage weird triad thing where he took

1030
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: on slugger Michael Seals, a former boxer on a decent

1031
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: level as a threat and you know, took big punches

1032
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: and out boxed him. So Platinum like Perry not only

1033
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: having the bare knuckle experience but having some of this

1034
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: weird crossed over hybrid and let's remember BKFC you can

1035
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: hold in dirty box and MVP has talked this week about,

1036
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, really working on greco training. He does enter

1037
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: this fight as the more experienced in this type of

1038
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: off assault in fights set up. And I'm sure a

1039
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: lot of us saw the weird back and forth as

1040
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: you could expect that happened on the MMA Hour with

1041
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Ariel Hawani this week when both appeared Talk Trash and

1042
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: Mike Perry's got dyed orange hair. And you know, if

1043
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: anyone saw the face off in London this week, he's

1044
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: a lot shorter than MVP. You know, his MVP at

1045
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the better MMA fighter and

1046
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: better pure striker and more dangerous. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1047
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: But not everybody makes this same transition to the bare

1048
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: knuckle game and is as comfortable with not only the

1049
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: carving aspects that happened to you in the middle of

1050
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: this fight, but the chance, but just some of the

1051
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: realities that you can't load up with every shot. You know,

1052
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: MVP is not gonna be able to use the thread

1053
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: of kicks to control distance. He may have to end

1054
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: up grappling and being a dirty box sort of street fight.

1055
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: There's a lot of scenarios that make Mike Perry an

1056
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: interesting underdog heading into this fight. I mean, even Paul

1057
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: Malnaji came out of retirement for what we all thought

1058
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Speaker 1: would be an easy, you know, boxing showcase with the

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00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: bare knuckles against the go artem Lobov. And look, at

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00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I did think, no, nad

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00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: you got screwed on the scoring, but it almost didn't matter.

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00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: That ended up being a fight in some ways and

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00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: mal nudge got carved up because again, and it's not

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00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the same traditional for MMA or traditional boxing. It's not

1065
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's different. It's why some of these

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00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: characters are popping up on the male and female side

1067
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: and BKFC and they're having moments because it's a different game.

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00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: Now back to the reference I made of the Ariel

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00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Hawani interview. Yeah, it was weird. They had respect for

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00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: each other, but also Perry trying to play it up.

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00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: He had that one comment that got a lot of

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00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: traction where he looked into the camera at MVP and said, quote,

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00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: your head looks like a ball sack. You look like testicles,

1074
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: and the hair on your chin looks like cooch hair.

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00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: And I'm going to shove my fist up your ass

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00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: end quote. I mean, you can put that on a

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00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: T shirt or a movie poster, and you know it's

1078
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: ridiculous type of fair that you would expect me to

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00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: regurgitate at you. But who actually wins this fight? Am

1080
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: I ready to go full verge and tell you this

1081
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: is a setup here, like like we were all surprised

1082
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: when this fight happened. When I say set up, I

1083
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: mean set up for a trapped night for MVP. We

1084
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: were all surprised when this fight was booked, not only

1085
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: the fact that Page, who just lost an interim title

1086
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: well to wipe out to Logan Storly, but you really

1087
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: could have argued should have won under the premise of

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00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: what the scoring is in MMA, although you can counter

1089
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: that based on some of the letter of the loss

1090
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: stuff we've talked about with impact over damage and all that.

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00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: But it's a shock to see him go from the

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00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: damn title level BKFC. Now does he have the potential

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00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: to get paid maybe the biggest of his career protect

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00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's that potential. That's why a Malanaji

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00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: would come out of retirement. That's why it's the last

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 1: stop in a lot of ways, outside of Paige Van's

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: aunt who came close enough to the midst of her

1098
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: physical prime and kind of became a brand for them.

1099
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Although by the way, Page was supposed to be on

1100
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: this card and got pulled. The fight's gonna happen down

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00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: the road a little bit most of the time. This

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00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: is the last stop on the combat sports journey, right,

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: This is the this is the this is the gas

1104
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: station hot dog of the group to see MVP do

1105
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: that in the midst it is shocking. You do have

1106
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: to wonder if he's getting into something that he's not

1107
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: prepared for. I don't really know. Does that up the intrigue? Yes,

1108
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: just like just seeing Mike Perry in any element up's

1109
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: the intrigue for me. And really, as we talked about,

1110
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: BKFC might be perfect for Mike Perry in a lot

1111
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: of ways. It really plays into his strengths, and if

1112
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: we're being honest, BKFC doesn't play into Michael venom Page's strengths.

1113
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: His strengths are controlling you from distance and using the

1114
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: ridiculous thread of his video game striking, which by the way,

1115
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: is just as much what happens below his waist and

1116
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: above the knees, the kicks, all of that without that

1117
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: there with Perry's potential ability to close that gap and

1118
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: not worry as much about getting slept, although it's obviously

1119
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: still could happen. And BKFC is weird meaning where you

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00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: don't always load up because of how much damage you

1121
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: can do to your fist, but it really does take

1122
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: the one perfect punch to move the chin, and you

1123
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: can do that bare knuckle, you know, just as well,

1124
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: just as easier as you could with four once gloves,

1125
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: but without the kicks, without the takedowns, without all that stuff.

1126
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Mike Perry's gonna have a shot at Eaton one to

1127
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: get inside. And then you got to ask yourself, what

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00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: does this look like. It's not that MVP is not

1129
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: trained or not skilled enough to work in the clinch

1130
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: or some of this dirty boxing scenario, but how's he

1131
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna respond if he gets carved up? I mean, this

1132
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: is a weird ass sport. There's still that borderline illegal

1133
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: slash county fair slash medieval feel to this, that UFC

1134
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: one feel. That's still some of the calling card of

1135
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: BKFC because dudes get carved up and knocked cold. I mean,

1136
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: it happens. I like Mike Perry's chances here. I like

1137
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 1: his chances. I'm not going out right on the upset

1138
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: pick here because at the end of the day, Michael

1139
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: Page is still in his physical prime. Michael Page can

1140
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: still punch. I mean, the dude can punch. Get you

1141
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: get him a chance to extend on one. I mean,

1142
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: obviously he can punch, but it's gonna be up to

1143
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: Perry to close that gap and if he can't. We

1144
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: know Mike Perry's got a great chance if you could

1145
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: take big punches, if he's willing to make this a

1146
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: gross and bloody fight, which yeah, last time I checked,

1147
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: Mike Perry is willing to do. That might be worth

1148
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: your time. It's gonna air on pay per view on

1149
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: the fight app. You can check that out. But I'm

1150
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna be watching. I'm gonna be taking notice here. We'll

1151
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: get back to that on Monday. Just a quick house

1152
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: cleaning update. Luke Thomas will be back live next Wednesday.

1153
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: He'll be traveling home the next few days Monday, though,

1154
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: Sugar Reshot Evans and we have this loaded weekend to

1155
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: respond to in boxing and MMA. It's gonna be a

1156
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: great episode. You're gonna enjoy that. Let's go to topic

1157
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: three and keep the ball rolling here. Half hour to

1158
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: go on this BC Live solo special. Boy, I could

1159
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: go half hour and go two hours on how excited

1160
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: I am for this. It's gonna go down on regular

1161
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: toone twelve Eastern the start of the main card. I

1162
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: think the main event they're projecting around five point fifteen ish,

1163
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: but it's Alexander Usik against Anthony Joshua Part two, three

1164
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: or four heavyweight titles at stake. In theory, the winner

1165
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: would advance and face WBC champion Tyson Fury for all

1166
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: four belts, first time in heavyweight history. In this modern

1167
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: four belt era, we could have an undisputed and we've

1168
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: had three belt on disputed champion. It's not like it

1169
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: hasn't happened. It's not like we haven't had a face

1170
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: of heavyweight boxing. But to really have that official, one face,

1171
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: one name, as I always talk about, I mean, it's sexy,

1172
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: it's what we want. We lived through the clitch Goo era.

1173
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: We finally have, you know, a group of fun competitive

1174
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: guys here. And as we learned last September in their

1175
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: first meeting Usick, who is pound for pound rank, who

1176
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: is unbeaten, who is the former Cruiserweight undisputed champion, Yeah

1177
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: he can play at heavyweight two and he pulled that

1178
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: upset by not only out boxing Joshua. Although we rightfully

1179
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: criticized AJ for not being physical enough for trying to

1180
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: outbox the Wizard the boxer, but Usik also needed to

1181
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: do things like land hard, clean left hands early to

1182
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: let Aj know that if you try to become the guy.

1183
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that you should have been the first fight you

1184
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: could get knocked out. There is a price to pay,

1185
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: and Aj has had some flashy chin issues in the past,

1186
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: as we have talked about ad nauseum. So there are

1187
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: two prevailing storylines and things that surround this fight that

1188
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: I think need to be taken into account as we

1189
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: look at who wins this and if you're wondering now

1190
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: in the odds again, I thought that Ja would still

1191
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: be the betting favorite because he's the bigger man, he's

1192
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: the proven knockout finisher and all that. But he's not

1193
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: fight in his backyard anymore like it was in Tottenham

1194
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: Hotspurs Stadium last September. This will be on somewhat neutral

1195
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: ground of Jetta Saudi Arabia plus one sixty Anthony Joshua

1196
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: You're underdog minus two h five according to Caesar's usik

1197
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the favorite. The two prevailing narratives are this that play

1198
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: into this legitimately. For Aj, it's you know, he called

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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: it a must win, and to his credit, he has

1200
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: done this before when he got stopped at twenty nineteen

1201
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: and upset by Andy Ruiz. He did come back six

1202
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: months later, and although we somewhat criticized him for a

1203
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: passive safe boxing performance against a very bloated and not

1204
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: ready for prime time. In that moment, Ruiz he did

1205
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: get the win an event himself, just like he got

1206
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: up off the canvas against clitch Go and knocked him out,

1207
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: just like. Look, AJ's not only learned on the job,

1208
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: he's been vulnerable on the job. But part of this

1209
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: legacy about him so far is that he's got a

1210
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: backbone to get back up and try again. This is

1211
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna be different this time because he finally, after being

1212
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: criticized for years, made the trainer change Rob McCracken out

1213
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: Robert Garcia in now we've seen the promotional or not

1214
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: the videos on social media which are now is sort

1215
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: of almost acting like promotional videos of AJ dig into

1216
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: the body, which he didn't do enough of in the

1217
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: first fight. And if you're telling me, he's gonna come

1218
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: in with the Mexican American style from Robert Garcia and

1219
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: dig in and slow Usick down and pull on his

1220
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: gas tank and lean on him like a prime clitch

1221
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: Go and be the bigger man. Yeah, you're gonna like

1222
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: AJ's potential chances a lot more. The whole Robert Garcia experiment,

1223
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: which we don't know whether it will lead to a

1224
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: monster success or Again, not every trainer is the perfect

1225
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: match or every fighter. It could not work. It could

1226
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: be a disaster. Okay, Like right now, who's the hot

1227
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: trainer of the moment, Well, Derek James for sure, who

1228
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: has spence in Jamal Charlo? But how about any Renoso

1229
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: of Team Canelo? And while Reinoso has picked up a

1230
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: number of other big name fighters since the success with Canalo,

1231
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: and oh by the way, has had big success with

1232
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: a few of them, including Oscar Valdez when he knocked

1233
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: out Miguel Burchell, there have been others like Luis Netti

1234
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: who just hasn't really worked out. You know where they

1235
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: tried it. Look, this is the style for me. It's

1236
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: you gotta have the right motivator, the right communication skills.

1237
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: You also have the right ability to not try to

1238
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: change a guy, but to try to improve and alter

1239
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: in the right ways some of those deficiencies. Robert Garcia

1240
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: has done that before. I mean he took Marcos Madonna

1241
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: from a fun, exciting TV brawler and sharpened up his

1242
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: eccentricities and the weird parts about his danger What makes

1243
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: him great my Donna's ability to throw punches from crazy

1244
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: angles and get inside and put that pressure, and dude,

1245
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: he made him dangerous to the level that he fought

1246
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather to a majority decision loss on pay per view.

1247
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, like it happened. I was there, I saw it.

1248
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: That's a big storyline scenario of can he make legitimate

1249
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: change in AJ style? Did AJ play it too safe

1250
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: in the first fight, Well, yes, overall, but I don't

1251
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: think it was the kind of too safe like it

1252
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: was against Ruiz, where I think he boxed anyway, boxed

1253
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: because Ruiz came in so fad and maybe that was

1254
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: the maybe that was a really clear way to victory,

1255
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: but I think he was also still maybe not fully

1256
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: back mentally from where he needed to be. After again,

1257
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: he fought Andrew Ruiz, who was a late replacement. And

1258
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: this was Madison Square Garden, New York, Like this was

1259
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: AJ's arrival, his US debut. It was being played up

1260
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: like a rock star was arriving, like the British invasion

1261
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: was coming to the States. This and he played it

1262
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: safe against Ruiz. Now he didn't play it safe against usick,

1263
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: but he tried to outbox the boxer. He had good

1264
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: success in the middle round going to the body, you know,

1265
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: get establishing the right hand, but there wasn't enough output.

1266
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: There wasn't enough physicality. He's six foot six and jacked.

1267
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: He's got what a four inch reach advantage over Usik,

1268
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: a three and a half inch high advantage. They weighed

1269
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: in this morning and Usik actually, despite all the talk

1270
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: about Usik being more muscular and bigger, this time, he

1271
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: came in the exact same weight two hundred twenty one

1272
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: pounds with I think seven tenths of a pound added

1273
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: on eight is gonna be two forty four. It's gonna have,

1274
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, that twenty something pound weight advantage. He's going

1275
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: to need to use it. It's not just the establishment

1276
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: of punches to the body under Robert Garcia. It's I've

1277
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: got to lean on Usik. I've got a corner Usik.

1278
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: He's gotta do a lot of things like cut off

1279
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: the ring and not follow that he did not do

1280
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: in the first fight. But none of these things can

1281
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: be done, by the way without the intentionality that says

1282
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm willing to risk getting knocked out in order to

1283
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: try to punch with Usik and show everybody that I'm

1284
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: the bigger man with the bigger power, Because you have

1285
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, what are Joshua at age thirty one,

1286
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: I believe, or thirty two? What are his strengths in

1287
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: this one? So it's not speak, it's not IQ, it's

1288
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: not defense, it's not you know, movement, it's not a

1289
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: lot of those things, but it is absolute punching power.

1290
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: He's smarter than people realize. But his advantages here are

1291
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: his punching power and his size in his explosiveness. He's

1292
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: got to use those in way more ways than just

1293
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: power punches. It's got to be, you know, a little

1294
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: dirty box. He's got to be a lot of those elements.

1295
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 1: Can Robert Garcia do that? Or is it too much

1296
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: too soon? A lot of questions to be answered. The

1297
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: other prevailing storyline in terms of how it might affect

1298
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: this fight. I watched the press conference for this fight

1299
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: that happened earlier this week, and a lot of people

1300
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: are talking about Alexander Ustick in the face off and

1301
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: in the press conference, and by the way, he's always

1302
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: typically doesn't give you a lot to work with. Even

1303
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: through the translation. He doesn't say a lot of words. Right,

1304
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: he's a funny dude, but when it gets time to fight,

1305
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: he's zoned in serious and he's not the kind that's

1306
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: going to talk a lot and give you stuff. But

1307
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: his manager and promoter were talking a lot, and they

1308
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: said that like boxing wasn't even on his mind when

1309
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: the Ukraine Russian conflict started, and he went like a

1310
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of the combat sports at you know, Yarslav Amasov, Lomachenko,

1311
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: he went to the front lines into some degree entered war, right,

1312
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: And but the message that came out of that is

1313
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: Usik kept going like to the front line and meeting soldiers,

1314
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: to the hospitals and meeting you know, injured soldiers, into

1315
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: the you know towns and meeting the townspeople. And everyone

1316
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: said to him, we need you to fight, get back

1317
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: in the ring, take the rematch, like for our country,

1318
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: for our pride, for our everything. We need you. So

1319
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: this has now become i mean almost almost spiritual, right,

1320
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: like like there is a purpose beyond boxing. And I

1321
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: know you could say, okay, that's great, it's romantic, but

1322
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: what does that mean in the ring? I think it actually,

1323
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: I think it actually could mean a lot here's why.

1324
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: Ray bartholomewm said it on Wednesday show great like Usik

1325
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: is already one of the most mentally tough fighters we've seen.

1326
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's Olympic gold mouse, by the way, won

1327
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: the Olympic gold and twenty twelve at heavyweight the same year.

1328
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: AJ wanted that super heavyweight but you know, to have

1329
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: that run at cruiserweight and now to come up at heavyweight,

1330
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: he's giving away things like size, punching power. He's not

1331
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: a finisher himself. His chin like it did when he

1332
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: unified cruise ofweight belts against Myris Britis and their you know,

1333
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: fight of the Year candidate, and like it did you

1334
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 1: know in this last fight against AJ where when we

1335
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: when Luke and I rewatched it, you'll notice Usik took

1336
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: some damage. You know he had to to win that.

1337
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he took legitimate damage. He's mentally tough enough

1338
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: and has reason enough to fight now at a crazy

1339
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: level that it is beyond boxing for him. To hear

1340
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: his promoter, Alexander Krashik, go in detail about like, like

1341
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, in modern times, like this we've never seen

1342
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: or maybe ever really to be fair, we've never seen

1343
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: a boxer come off the front lines of war and

1344
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: walk into the ring in boxing representing their I mean, like,

1345
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, you can definitely look at Joe Louis Max

1346
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: Smelling Part two and all the political overtones in that fight.

1347
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: And that's why, along with Ali Fraser one, that's arguably

1348
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: the biggest fight of all time from like how many

1349
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: ears were against the radios, how many people's hearts were

1350
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: in like a life and death moment for their country

1351
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: supporting that. We haven't had something like that in American

1352
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: boxing probably since then, right in a long ass time.

1353
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 1: This Ukrainian conflict is you know, for the people, especially Usak,

1354
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: who was on the front lines for a period, you

1355
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 1: don't think this could affect his motivation. So not only

1356
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: has he had that scary look that a lot of

1357
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: people are talking about this week, the shaved head, but

1358
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: with that mini ponytail right here, and if you're wondering,

1359
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: you know what the heck is that, let's talk about that.

1360
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: Usak had that twenty one goal at the Olympics in

1361
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. It's called it oscilettis. I'm pronouncing that prom

1362
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: butcher and it probably O S E L E D

1363
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: E T s. It's a traditional haircut of the Cossacks,

1364
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: who were warrior people from south and East Ukraine and

1365
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: also parts of what is now Russia. I mean, when

1366
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: he brings out that out typically in his career, it's

1367
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: go time, it's serious time. And yes he is, even

1368
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: though for he's a joker for the most part, he

1369
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: has had this crazy serious look that this is bigger

1370
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: than boxing, that he's almost simulating what he he and

1371
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: as other countrymen have done going to war, legitimate war.

1372
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: He's now simulating it potentially in the ring to as

1373
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: his promoter put it, show the rest of the world

1374
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: that the colors on the Ukraine flag stand for, you know,

1375
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: unshakable and love and all this stuff. Like there's a

1376
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,520
Speaker 1: giant message he's looking to deliver here with his performance.

1377
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: He was one of those guys who was like, you know,

1378
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: like screw the aj rematch, Like I'm not only giving

1379
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: up my livelihood to go to the front line and

1380
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: risk it, like everyone should be doing that. And by

1381
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: the way, we've seen that same spirit up to the

1382
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: top to the Klitschko brothers. I mean, it's been incredible

1383
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: and I love in the States seeing all the callers

1384
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: of the flag and the signs of people's yard supporting,

1385
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of ways, as they should.

1386
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: This is big and to hear Egos Klemus, the manager

1387
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: of Usik, say, I've never seen someone go through a

1388
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: hell of training camp like I've watched him. Apparently, Usik

1389
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 1: rode one hundred kilometers on his bicycle in one hundred

1390
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: and thirteen degree heat in Saudi Arabia in the past

1391
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: few weeks. He swam five hours in a pool before

1392
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: the press conference and then held his breath trying to

1393
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: He's doing these underwater breathing techniques of holding his breath

1394
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: for as long as he could, and apparently he got

1395
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: as long as four minutes and forty seconds before Klemus

1396
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: said he was shaking and almost passed away. Now, again,

1397
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: that could be very romantic details you throw in there

1398
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: of Lucky Linburgh, you know, Glabs grabs the dame and

1399
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: gives morale of the troops. Right, it's great. But I've

1400
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: seen this intense spirit before Nusick, but not on this level.

1401
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: And if any of that is true, it's telling you

1402
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: that he's going into this ring to win this fight

1403
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: no matter what. And he's already one of the most

1404
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: mentally tough in this game, and he doesn't have some

1405
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: of those implosive self implosive tendencies that at times Aj

1406
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: has shown. Yeah, this affects the fight. Here's the deal.

1407
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: And I said this sort of as an afterthought to

1408
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: Raf on Wednesday when we previewed the storyline to this fight,

1409
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: and I said, look, you know, is there a scenario

1410
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: where Usik, who's not the bigger punter by any means

1411
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: and doesn't have fight ending power at have you eight,

1412
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: but can land clean shots to the chin, stiff clean

1413
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: shots from various angles, different speeds, different you know, I mean,

1414
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: he's a dynamic. Is there a scenario in which he

1415
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: knocks Joshua out, in which he you know, drops Joshua

1416
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: and gases him and stuff. Of course there is. And

1417
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: if he comes in there with a mindset that he

1418
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: must do that, or if AJ has the kind of

1419
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: success we're saying he will need to have to win

1420
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: the rematch, does that open a scenario on which they're

1421
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: fighting and not boxing. Yeah, and it certainly does, because

1422
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: that's AJ's best chance to win if he's willing to

1423
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: take the risk, and by the way, I think he

1424
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: would be. I think aj is tied into the idea

1425
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: that his true legacy is how he's gotten up from

1426
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: being knocked down, right, how he's come back from things.

1427
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's aj Is. He's awesome. Seriously, I mean,

1428
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: you gotta respect Anthony Joshua, but I gotta respect why

1429
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 1: this matters so much to Usik and why just the same, Like,

1430
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: here's the underlying thing in this fight. Who has the

1431
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,959
Speaker 1: best potential to do better than the first fight Joshua

1432
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: by a landslide right, if he can cut off the ring,

1433
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: if he can slow Usik down, if he's willing to

1434
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,879
Speaker 1: stand and punch with Usik, meaning they both throw combinations

1435
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, rather than one trying to counter

1436
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: the other tanking turns. If this becomes a two way

1437
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: punching match. The idea that Joshua's chances of victory go

1438
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: up huge is true. But Usik, who has taken big

1439
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: shots and big punchers in the past, and he's had

1440
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: to to get the win. And by the way, don't

1441
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: forget the fight he had before that Joshua fight, the

1442
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: Derk Chasa fight, which was his first real test at heavyweight.

1443
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: He had to deal with a lot of physical stuff,

1444
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: coming at him, and he only won by close margins

1445
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: on that scorecard. Look, I thought he won comfortably in

1446
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: the eye test, but the judges give a lot of

1447
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: credit to what Jesaora did in pushing that pressure and

1448
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: weighs again that AJ didn't do in September. If AJ

1449
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: does that, does it increase his chances of winning, without question?

1450
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: But does it increase his chances of los seeing in

1451
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: a spectacular way just the same? Yeah, because Andrew Ruiz

1452
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 1: was never a big puncher either, But it was that

1453
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: left hook that hit the side of the head of AJ,

1454
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: and hits messed up as equilibrium And in the ring,

1455
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: you don't always get knocked out after an equilibrium shot,

1456
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: but in most cases you set up your exit a

1457
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: couple rounds later. You know, look at God, Look at

1458
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: Sergio Martinez against Miguel Coto. Yes, the leg didn't the

1459
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: need didn't respond, Campion, but he got equilibrium in the

1460
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 1: first knockdown by Codo in round one, and that wild

1461
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: scene at Madison Square guard one of the best one

1462
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: round fan experiences ever had there, although the fight obviously

1463
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: went longer and was one sided. But the equilibrium shots

1464
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: can change everything, so could Usik landing that one perfect

1465
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: shot in the chin. As Joshua is throwing, he's gonna

1466
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: have to absorb a lot. I could see both going

1467
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: getting knocked down. Here's what I'm saying here. The drama

1468
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: in this rematch. First fight was really good, intense, dramatic,

1469
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: good technical adaptions and all that wasn't blood and gods

1470
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: wasn't you know? Nuts? This fight might get nuts, and

1471
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: I think the winner is gonna win by knockout. If

1472
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: you like Anthony Joshua by plus money by knockout, it's

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01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: not a bad bet. In fact, you can argue it's

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: the best bet. Is There just as much potential for

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01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: aj who box better than the first one, And maybe

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: you didn't think he won, but maybe the judges give

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01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: it to him for whatever reason. He's the bigger star,

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: maybe the pressure he put whatever. There's a lot there's

1479
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: potential there as well. But I think with what matters

1480
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: the most and what these guys are fighting for, it

1481
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: may end up being knockout or nothing, because I think

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01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: one or both of them is gonna lead it there.

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01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: But I like Usik, especially with this motivation and this

1484
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: the streak that he's on mentally right now. I think

1485
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: he stops Anthony Joshua in the tenth round, and that'd

1486
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: be I mean, that win would mean so much more

1487
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: to his nation than we probably understand as Americans wherever

1488
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: you're watching this from. But to his legacy, dude, And

1489
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, I love ty I love me some Tyson Fury.

1490
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: I love me some Tyson Fury. But if he if

1491
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: he does, if Usak wins this, and Tyson Fury suddenly

1492
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: retired again and wants to fight, you know, in Ghanu

1493
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, and look, I'm not stopping him from making

1494
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: his money, do what the hell you want. But if

1495
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: he does anything but walk in the direction of an

1496
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: underspeted championship against Usik, it'll be a scarlet letter. It

1497
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: will be a stain because they both deserve, we deserve that,

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: the sport deserves this, this summit of the winner of

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: this fight against Tyson Fury next, And obviously Fury would

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: prefer AJ. It's a much bigger fight financially, God, you

1501
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: could do it in a stadium with as many people

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: as you can pack it, right, but it's also an

1503
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: easier fight potentially for Tyson Fury him against Usik. If

1504
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: Usak wins this and if Fukusik wins this by stoppage

1505
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: in this scenario that I'm presenting, I mean, look, that's

1506
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: a that's all. That's an interesting ass fight. And do

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01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: I still love Fury head to head over over Usik

1508
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: in a lot of category. Of course, he'd have to

1509
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: be the betting favorite. You'd have to believe because Fury

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01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: can do at all. But I really hope he's willing

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01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: to fight either guy or it would be a stain.

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01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it would be Tyson Fury. All right, let's

1513
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: keep the train moving here, b see fired up? I

1514
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: feel I can go three hours right now, whether you're

1515
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: willing to go there with me or not.

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01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

1517
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: Topic number three that was top of number three. Number

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: four is Showtime Championship Boxing. Look no more. Adrian Broners.

1519
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: We talked about There's been a lot of fallout and

1520
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: talk about mental health and is this is Berner brings

1521
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: serious when everything else he does is joking. Is he

1522
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: using the system? I don't know. I don't know at

1523
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: the end of the day, but I want Adrian Browner

1524
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: to be healthy. And what I do know is the

1525
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: replacement main event is actually a better fight. It really is.

1526
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: Seriously Cergey Lipnet's a former champion at one forty who

1527
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: was on this card for this exact reason. It seems

1528
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: off TV needing and wanting a comeback win, but for

1529
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: this potential if this happened, will it happened? This fight's

1530
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: gonna be at one forty. And the thing about Lipinnettes

1531
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: when he did lose at the highest level, right, I

1532
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: mean he retired Lamont Peterson in a great, great welterweight brawl.

1533
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: But when he thought boots in, I mean, like you're

1534
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: asking a lot. Lipignetz really is a one hundred and

1535
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: forty pounder. That's where he won his world title in

1536
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: like ten pro fights. That's where he gave Mikey Garcia

1537
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: a hard night, even though he lost the title that night.

1538
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: He's going back down to one forty and he's facing

1539
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: an Omar Figaro, a junior who's not only as exciting

1540
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: as it gets, but has legitimate questions. Legitimate legitimate question

1541
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: has been out for a long time, has never established

1542
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: himself above one thirty five, sometimes brawls too much, and

1543
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: now has had legitimate mental health challenges himself that he's

1544
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: gone through and got to this point. This fight with

1545
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: their styles can be nothing but a war, and it's

1546
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: gonna go down eight pm Eastern. It's a quadruple header.

1547
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna get rising puncher and prospect Brandon Lee, who

1548
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: did big things on Showtime before recently making the leap

1549
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: to this championship level. He's going to open this four

1550
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: fight card. It's gonna be worth your time there in

1551
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: South Florida. Don't forget by the way. Six pm Eastern YouTube,

1552
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: Showtime Sports Channel. It's a preliminary early action two fight card.

1553
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: Me Keith Thurman, I mean, come on, it's gonna be

1554
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: right in entertainment. What's this fight gonna look like? It's

1555
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna be all action? And I really like Lipinet's chances here,

1556
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: even though he's coming in as the replacement, and you

1557
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: know Vegas does too. Caesar's having the new replacement. Lipyaz

1558
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: is a minus two ninety five favorite against the plus

1559
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: two twenty Omar Figureo, a junior. I think Figureo is

1560
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to prove today on the scales that he can,

1561
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, after this much time off, that he can

1562
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: make one forty He'd been at one forty seven before,

1563
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: and he'd been handled handily by the likes of your

1564
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: Dennis Ugas or I think he fight what Abel Ramos

1565
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: who knocked him knocked him out. This is a big

1566
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: fight for him to try to restore. And I think

1567
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: he's been motivated by his brother Brandon Figueroa becoming a

1568
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: stud in this sport, and you know, winning a title

1569
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: at one twenty two, having the fight of the year

1570
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: agains Stephen Fulton now proving at featherweight that he's doing

1571
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: big things. I think it's helped motivate Omar. And I

1572
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: talked to Omar and the video never ended up getting

1573
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: published because it was before when the Bruner fight was

1574
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: still on. But we've got some of this sound to

1575
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: just trying to check in on what's changed for Omar

1576
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: figaro A Junior during this layoff.

1577
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 8: I got my mentals order man that that's been the

1578
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 8: main thing this whole past year. I've been to held

1579
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 8: him back many, many, many times. And if anyone watching

1580
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 8: this has ADHD, they know exactly what we put ourselves through.

1581
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 8: So the hells that I've lived have have been more

1582
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 8: than worth it because I'm here and like you said,

1583
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 8: I'm happier than ever, I'm healthier than ever, and I've

1584
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 8: never been better.

1585
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: Let's throw to our final two pieces of sound here

1586
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: for a figure out back to back. But there is

1587
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: some questions here because my interview with him was kind

1588
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: of wild. I mean, he teared up during it, and

1589
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: he's been and he did that a lot this week

1590
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: and again, I mean, I've gone through mental health challenges

1591
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: and still endure it, like a lot of people, like

1592
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: the great Moral Ronalo, who's such an ambassador with his

1593
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: Bipolar Rock and Roller documentary on Showtime, Like I respect

1594
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: this more than anyone, and I like that Brandon figurea

1595
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: is essentially like got to a certain point where we

1596
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: recognize that it's not just you know, let's not talk

1597
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: about this because of Mexican machies. More like, let I

1598
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: got to deal with myself, and he's dealt with it,

1599
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: and I'm happy for him, but you know, he hasn't

1600
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: fought in a while, and this is a tough fight

1601
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: here and there's going to be a big test for him.

1602
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: So you know, there's been some people questioning could he

1603
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: still be the same guy I asked him about this.

1604
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: I hope he can be. But you know, even in

1605
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: my full interview, which was never made the light of day,

1606
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, it was tearing up at some point. Sometimes

1607
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: he's saying, look, I don't even think boxing's great for me,

1608
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: but I gotta do this. I gotta come back and

1609
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: do this. So maybe this is about more of a

1610
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: personal challenge to him fighting himself than the opponent. Let's

1611
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: see how it goes. Let's hear his words about where

1612
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: his mind does that entering this one.

1613
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean I felt like I lost my mind.

1614
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 8: I don't know how many times, like I said, this

1615
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 8: past year. So this was absolutely something that, you know,

1616
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 8: that was up in the air, especially because we get

1617
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 8: punched for a living, you know, so you know, taking

1618
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 8: care of my body, myself, my brain, and loving myself

1619
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 8: a little bit first time in thirty two years. Yeah,

1620
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 8: I mean it's certainly something that crossed my mind. But

1621
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 8: I he was born crazy, So I don't think there's

1622
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 8: a better fit as far as like what I would

1623
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 8: be doing with my life than boxing. I love this

1624
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 8: sport and I hate that I love it so much

1625
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 8: so much, Like I just there's nothing, you know, there's

1626
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 8: nothing else that would fulfill me.

1627
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: I think it's easy to you know, understand his struggle

1628
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: and understand his words and relate to it. You just

1629
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: hope that he's really here for all the right reasons

1630
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: and that he's ready physically and mentally, because he's already

1631
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: guaranteed a war. He guaranteed the war against Brown. I mean, look,

1632
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: that's what the figure outs do, right, They give up

1633
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: their height advantage, they get inside, but they got long

1634
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 1: arms there quick and they throw punches. This is gonna

1635
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: be a good test for him, a big test in

1636
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. So let's see if Omar can

1637
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: put the career back on the track, because it has

1638
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: fallen apart and he's got a big opportunity here. The

1639
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: other fights al Berto Poyo against Akhmetov there for a

1640
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: vacant one forty title, Roger Gutierrez against Hector Garcia, and

1641
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, Brandon Lee taking on Will Maderna six

1642
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Though, it all gets started with Keith Thurman,

1643
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: your boy BC South Florida. We're gonna be having a

1644
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: good time. They're talking about what's next for Keith, talking

1645
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: about the Walterway Division as a whole, talking about these fights.

1646
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: Check it out. Stay for the main card eight pm

1647
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: Eastern Saturday night only on Showtime. At the very least,

1648
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna bang. There's a lot, a lot of human

1649
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: interest elements, but they're gonna throw hands. They're gonna make

1650
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: this happen, and for both you can get a big

1651
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: fight right after doing this type of type of showcase.

1652
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: So let's see what happens there. All right, here's what

1653
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna close the I got ten minutes ish left.

1654
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: My cars be waiting, you know, big, big time. Now

1655
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: I've got a car driving. Who am I? Right? We

1656
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: got a special Friday episod. None of this, none of

1657
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: the normal elements will bear food until next week. DMS

1658
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: from I'm sorry fan subs on Wednesday dead wrongs. I'm

1659
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: sure you've been stockpiling them after BC's had a weekend

1660
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: on the controls, but we solicit your questions through Instagram.

1661
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Let's have a little bit of fun here. D MS

1662
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: from Donks on this Friday. He haw, he haw. All right,

1663
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: we start here from Aman Khan Underscore nineteen ninety eight.

1664
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: That's another fantastic handle there. Why should I bid on

1665
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,839
Speaker 1: a pre draft call with Brian Campbell for the CBS

1666
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Charity auction? It seemed like a place question,

1667
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: but I'll take it just the same here's the deal.

1668
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: People have asked me before I think on the show,

1669
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: Gaff asked me for you know, what causes matter to you,

1670
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: like you know, you know some of my story with

1671
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: with with my children having been born premature and haven't

1672
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,799
Speaker 1: been fighting through such crazy amounts of surgeries and miracles

1673
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: to get to where they are. When I see a

1674
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: charity like Saint Jude's Children's Hospital and I know the

1675
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: good that programs like that do for families that are

1676
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: going through that, I got to stand up for it.

1677
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: I love that that CBS Sports joins in that battle.

1678
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: And you know, we put some things up to auction.

1679
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: I tweeted out today that you can win an MK

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Speaker 1: Merchandising bundle if you bid on it right now on eBay.

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01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: You can check out my twitter feed for that link.

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01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: And what we did last year was, uh, you know,

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01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: they asked me, look, we see you want to give

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01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: a give a fan a chance to chat with you.

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: There's the social handles below if you want to see

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01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: what I was mentioning there on my Twitter feed. Yeah,

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01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: and you know what I think, somebody auctioned and and

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: and somebody bid and they won a ten minute chat

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01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: last year with me. It was a blooke from from

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01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: oh here. Let me I got Mikey Morms just tell

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01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: me hold on the merch packages have an autographed poster,

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01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: custom packaging and and a two hundred dollars gift card

1693
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: to the Morning Combat Store. So basically, you want to

1694
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: get to the bomber jacket level you want to you

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01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: want to get to the end of the game and

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01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: beat the beat the boss. Uh. Bid on this support

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01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: a great cause. Last year somebody won from Australia. Great guy.

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: Ten minutes with me. I'm like ten minutes, dude. You

1699
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: just gave all this money to a great cause. Dude,

1700
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: I'll talk with you as long as you want. We

1701
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: talked for like an hour and ten minutes about our

1702
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 1: where we come from, our fandom, great moments, all that stuff.

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01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: We got that again. So that's one of the items

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01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: up for bid. You want to hang out with BC

1705
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: on a zoom call, whatever you want to do. Just

1706
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: just no no no sticks, no sticks, all right, all right,

1707
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: no pipes. We didn't get that that that site going yet,

1708
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: but you got what I'm saying there. And here's the deal.

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01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: Back when my kids were there in the hospital, Uh

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01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: my son was in Boston for a long time. There

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01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: was a program similar to this called the Ronald McDonald House,

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01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: and basically they had a building next to the hospitals

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01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: where they'd put you up while you're you know, while

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01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: you're visiting your child, and you'd have no idea it

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: storm style and it's community and stuff in a lot

1716
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: of ways, but you have no idea financially, peace of

1717
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: mind wise, what when your child is in the hospital,

1718
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: you don't know if they're gonna make it, and you're

1719
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, and you're just trying to be there and

1720
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: show support in any way you can and love and

1721
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: prayers and all that. And they have these things in

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01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: place where you know, you're not paying for hotel rooms,

1723
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: you're not playing you know, and and you know, luckily

1724
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: my drive was two hours to Boston. There were families

1725
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: there that were from the Middle East that this was

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01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: their only chance for their children to be saved, and

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01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: they were living, you know, five, six, seven, eight members

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01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: in one room, you know, for months. I mean there's

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01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: people that have you know, there's struggles and there's fights,

1730
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: and you know, they stopped their life on the other

1731
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: side of the world and came here for six months

1732
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 1: to try to find, you know, a surgery or an answer,

1733
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: and you know places like this, Saint Jude's Children's Hospital,

1734
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Ronald Mcdonaldhouse, all that those are built in to help

1735
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: the families stay sane during this and help him out

1736
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: a little bit. I couldn't back that type of stuff more,

1737
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: believe me from experience. Let's keep it going here from TJ. Padro,

1738
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: he wants to know it's a good boxing question. Here

1739
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: is Demetrius Andreid, who's you know, been such a threat

1740
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: across three divisions? You can't get big fights even with

1741
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: Eddie Herd in his corner. Is he a real threat

1742
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: to Charlo? Or do you think Charlo smokes him?

1743
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: Now?

1744
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: I believe we're talking about Jamal Charlow currently at one

1745
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 1: sixty although there's rumors he could cut up to you

1746
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: can move up to one sixty eight. Andreid want to

1747
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: title at middleweights, willing to fight at one sixty eight.

1748
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: Could he be a real threat for Jermal? Absolutely? Look,

1749
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing that why people avoided Demetrius Andreid. Now, look,

1750
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: he's a great interview, he's flashy, he talks trash all that,

1751
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, the public has never seemed deemed

1752
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: him marketable. But the real reason why he's also avoidable

1753
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: is because he's so difficult. He's long armed, he's quick.

1754
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: Does he have a fight ending power? We've argued that

1755
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 1: at times, but he can hurt you with shots you

1756
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: don't see coming, almost like an MVP Michael Page type

1757
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: of flow to how he boxes and at any way

1758
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: class He's got the speed and length and the boxing

1759
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: knowledge and the willingness even if it's boring to say, look,

1760
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: this is the style. It's gonna beat you. I'm gonna

1761
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: comit to that again. Maybe why he doesn't always get

1762
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: the marketing nods, although I think he's been overall, I

1763
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: think he's had bad luck. I think to be fair, yeah,

1764
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: he's a real threat to Charlo. And that's why there

1765
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: have been a lot of people in recent years. Chris

1766
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: Mannix has been one of them going public and saying like, well,

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01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: somebody step up and take this challenge. Well, Charlow will

1768
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: somebody like we can't. People can't keep avoiding this guy.

1769
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: He does deserve the opportunity. I hope Jamal CHARLOI gives

1770
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: him that opportunity. I think Edy Hearn even got to

1771
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: a point promoting where it's like, I don't know what's

1772
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: to do for you anymore. I couldn't get it done.

1773
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: I promised I couldn't get it done. It is what

1774
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: it is. But it's not like Andre is a you know.

1775
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's had some stinker fights maybe, but

1776
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: it's not like he's deserves the type of you know,

1777
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: journey he's had to be on and skills wise, he's

1778
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 1: a he's you know, he's gonna be a he's gonna

1779
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a problem. Now that doesn't mean the

1780
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: judges might fully interpret what he's trying to do in

1781
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: that way to give him the nod. And you know,

1782
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: he could be in close fights, but he's gonna be

1783
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: a threat to anyone across multiple divisions. This is from

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01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Rustic Tribe Design. And I got to shout out those

1785
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: great folks you've seen in our studio morning Combat. The

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: wooden boxes we've got for for you know, the alcohol

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01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: holder's the glasses. I mean, it's like the perfect setup,

1788
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: especially for like a a man cave room. And they've

1789
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: they've done some great woodwork check out with their stuff.

1790
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: But they got a question here that you know, I love.

1791
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: What are some great movie soundtracks, and we had this debate.

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01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: I think it was a DM question in the past

1793
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: on this show, and I wasn't equipped at that moment

1794
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: to give the right answers. And I know everybody's probably

1795
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: screaming to the screen and saying above the Rim. You know,

1796
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: my boy Rath Bartholm, he's definitely saying that right now.

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01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: I love Above the Rim. I didn't have that soundtrack though. Personally,

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01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: what are my favorite soundtracks? What do I think are

1799
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: the best I've I think at a time Forrest Gump

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01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: was an incredible soundtrack. I remember buying it right after

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01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: I exited the movie theater on opening night and saw

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01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: the movie because it was such a perfect conglomeration of

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: classic rock hits and something that you hadn't heard before

1804
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: or in a while. And it's a double album, but

1805
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: that kind of age not the same. I stand by

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01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: Juice above Above the Rim as my favorite hip hop soundtrack.

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01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean that is all killer, no filler across the

1808
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: board on there, Big Daddy Kane, Eric being rock him.

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01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Into the wild though, and this is a

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01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: little bit different than your normal movie soundtrack because this

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01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: is Eddie Vedder almost essentially crafting an album to fit

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01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 1: the movie. If you haven't heard any Vedder solo into

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01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the Wild soundtrack album, it's it's amazing. Is it as

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01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: great as the best pro jam stuff? Well, it's different,

1815
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's right there. I mean, it is

1816
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: freaking amazing, fun nostalgic one Empire Records. Some people remember

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01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: that nineties movie had some really fun, sort of forgotten

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01:28:55,600 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: alternative songs on there, almost famous. Also great collection of

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01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 1: classic rock songs. I don't remember they put the songs

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01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: from the movie in it too. I didn't own it.

1821
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: I had it burned. But great movie. We rewatched that

1822
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 1: on the show. But my favorite, what I think is

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01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: the best movie soundtrack of all time. It's easy and

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01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: I wish I'd remembered this the last time I got

1825
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: this question dazed and confused. You remember that great nineties

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01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: party movie set in the nineteen seventies. They had two soundtracks.

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01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,799
Speaker 1: Actually I had them both. It is just badass, ballsy

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01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,879
Speaker 1: seventies classic rock. It's in some ways I got introduced

1829
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: for the first time to a lot of those. It's

1830
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: still rules to the stay so Rustic tribe. Design. We

1831
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: love you. Thanks for supporting the show. Great question. Let's

1832
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: keep it rolling here as my car is pulling in,

1833
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: But let's do a couple bonus once here from MVB

1834
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of underscores, which current champion has a

1835
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: realistic shot at another belt by moving up in wake Claus.

1836
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume that MVB is talking about UFC here,

1837
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: So most realistically is John Jones, who you saw they

1838
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: tweeted out what UFC two eighty one is that the

1839
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: December one in Las Vegas. It looks like he's coming

1840
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: back there. You have to believe it's either for against

1841
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: Angano for the full championship or Stepe for the interroim.

1842
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean he is in Ghano even physically ready, I

1843
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't think so. I feel like I haven't

1844
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: heard in a while. John Jones probably has the best shout,

1845
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: although I think the more he's sat out and the

1846
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: more Anghanu has sort of gotten to another level of

1847
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: danger pre knee injury, I did start to question my

1848
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: initial feeling that it's gonna be automatic. John's just gonna

1849
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: come in there and you know, outslick these guys and

1850
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: belong and use wrestling and overcome whatever he's gonna lack

1851
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: in punching power and chin just by being the greatest

1852
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: still in play. We'll see what happens outside of that.

1853
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: I think you have to like Israel Auti Sonya. Even

1854
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: though he lost to Jan Blohovich in a fair way,

1855
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: it was close and it was more of a I

1856
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: think there were fixable areas in there. If and he

1857
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: would need to beat Alex Padeda first. If and I

1858
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: do think it's time after this fight, if he's willing

1859
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: to move up to two five full time and get

1860
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: his body there with him, I think it's in play

1861
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: that he can do this. I remember there, Yes, there

1862
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: was a time we're talking about why did you just

1863
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: go after that and beat John Jobs for the heavyweight title?

1864
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: And then when he lost to Blahovich, we stopped talking

1865
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: about that. Yes, there are limits in this game to

1866
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: how much you can you know, add on and the

1867
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: danger you can take on with your skill set and

1868
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 1: pull it off. But I can see him winning a

1869
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: light heavyweight title Usman at light heavyweight. I mean the

1870
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: odds would be against him. I do think if Aldasigni

1871
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: were to lose or or you know, vacated title or whatever, Yeah,

1872
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 1: Usman could be in play now. Luke was a little

1873
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: bit I thought two haphazard in that pregame preview of

1874
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: being like, oh Man, I'd favor him against Robert Waitaker, Gettel,

1875
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here, Luke Thomas. But is

1876
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: it possible that they can win that Midleway. Yeah, we'd

1877
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: love to see what that cardio in wrestling can do.

1878
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: You know, the well rounded game. I do think a

1879
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: size difference. And even though his striking has gotten to

1880
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,839
Speaker 1: a point where it's a weapon, some of those strikers,

1881
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, the sign we wouldn't fight, but the Oda

1882
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Sign or the Whitakers, I mean, I couldn't. I don't know.

1883
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: I think the odds would be certainly against him in

1884
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: both divisions, but he is great enough to find a

1885
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: way to do it. Henry Shudo also, don't forget No,

1886
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Speaker 1: I know we won titles in two divisions, and I

1887
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 1: know not everybody loves the idea of him fighting Volkanovsky

1888
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: at Featherway for the belt. I just think he's one

1889
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: of those guys that I used to count out, and

1890
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: I got to a point where I had to stop

1891
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: counting him out, and I just realized that he's smart.

1892
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: You see, people are picking him up as a sort

1893
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: of trainer of the moment. He's very smart. Volkanovski would

1894
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: probably would be the most favorable matchup because of the height,

1895
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: whereas su Hudo is already naturally very small. To have

1896
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: that shot, I wouldn't favor him. It's more romantic BC

1897
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: going what would that look like? But I do think

1898
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: it's possible. I think the second most likely outside of

1899
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: John Jones, though, is Valentina Chipchenko. Should she decide to

1900
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: go back to her old division, abandon way and do

1901
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: this trilogy against Amanda Newnas. It's very much in play

1902
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: that she could win. Of course, a lot of people

1903
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: thought she won the second one. I did too, although

1904
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 1: you know it's not like I think it's a robbery. Also,

1905
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: al Jamaine Sterling Feather, I don't think it's impossible. It's long.

1906
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: It's better than we gave him credit for with the

1907
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: whole d Q debacle. He's coming into his own all right,

1908
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: hate me for it. It's I think it's possible. There

1909
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: you go, Let's go over to Dan Desmond Fitness. Is

1910
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,799
Speaker 1: that what it says? Ah Web? Is it web Scream

1911
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: or Webb's Cream? That's really the question, Dan Desmond fitness.

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Speaker 1: That's what the producers are telling me. Okay, Dan Desmond,

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Speaker 1: thank you? Uh b C. If a vinyl was a

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01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: one night stand that you regretted, which album that's a

1915
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: good question. I mean, what's the spirit of this question,

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01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: asking me what what what sort of guilty pleasure vinyl

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01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: has that feeling of a one night stand? Is that

1918
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: what you're asking? Or which album would best represent that

1919
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: gross feeling you have after one night that's also a

1920
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: good question. Uh. But sometimes though, they're like I love

1921
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: like that seventies boogie rock, like Alex Cooper, who I

1922
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: do not consider a guilty pleasure. Alex Cooper fucking's awesome.

1923
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean the you know, I got the three best

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01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: style vinyl over there. I mean, it's just amazing. But

1925
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: it's like that boogie sex rock sometimes when he's not

1926
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: doing the other weird uh dark stuff that uh that

1927
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, almost feels like a grimy one night stand

1928
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: when you're listening to it. But under the spirit of

1929
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 1: the question of like, which vinyl do I have? That

1930
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: if this is what he's asking, which I don't think

1931
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: he is, but how about this, which vinyl do I

1932
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 1: have that I consider guilty pledgure. I've always considered rumors

1933
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 1: by Fleetwood back to be the ultimate guilt, best guilty

1934
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: pleasure of all time because like in theory, if we're

1935
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: cool rock guys, we shouldn't love that, right, which is

1936
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: a stupid right. It's almost misogynistic. But to be fair,

1937
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: coming up, I didn't know anybody that listened to women

1938
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: rock singers, right, you know what I mean? And that

1939
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: was a big part of that band's transformation in bringing

1940
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: on CV Nicks and and you know, giving huge roles

1941
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: to uh, to Christine mcviee who was already in the band,

1942
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: but that you know, every like married guy had that

1943
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, yo, you really listened to this or

1944
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: like it's so good? And you know what it is,

1945
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: it's so good. It's it's one of the best albums world.

1946
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: It's because it but the reason I finally figured out,

1947
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean, great songwriting, great singing, great musicianship, but it's

1948
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,839
Speaker 1: the rhythm section. John McVie on bass, who was just incredible,

1949
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: the way that he interacts with Mick Fleetwood. It's you

1950
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: don't hear you don't hear a bass and drum sound

1951
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: like that I mean, it's incredible, Masters of the Studio.

1952
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: I'm also real big into Mirage, their early eighties one

1953
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: that had a couple of radio hits. It's a good album.

1954
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 1: I also think I've recently, very quietly got into that

1955
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: ridiculous prime run in the seventies Belt and John Who.

1956
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: I still think Elton John to some degree is a

1957
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure, especially for rock fans. I didn't realize how

1958
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: many five star level albums he had and how deep

1959
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: they were in variety beyond whether you love the radio

1960
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: hits or you think some of them can be cheesy.

1961
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Goodbye the Yellow Brick Road is

1962
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: a freaking classic, and it opens with you know, the

1963
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Funeral for Our Funeral for a friend that leads into

1964
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: love Lies Bleeding and you know that that does progressive rock,

1965
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: and you know that's that's fantastic And the Honky Chateau

1966
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: I just picked up, Oh it's amazing. I also have

1967
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: a soft spot for like seventies yacht rock. I mean,

1968
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 1: who doesn't, dude. I have every good album by Seals

1969
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 1: and Cross by America. I got all the Mamas in

1970
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: the Poppets, Oh Mama Cass big time guilty pleasure. Listen

1971
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: to that makes me feel like I'm doing the walk

1972
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: home from a gross one night stand. But it's great, man,

1973
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm cast elliot. It's amazing, you know. Also Lisa Hannigan,

1974
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: you remember her from from Damien Rice's debut O album,

1975
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: one of the best of the last twenty five years.

1976
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: Her solo Chris just incredible. I don't know if that's

1977
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,719
Speaker 1: a guilty pleasure, but I'm pleasured do it. That's weird,

1978
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: that's gross, That's not where I want it to be

1979
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 1: right now? All right, one more question that I'm out

1980
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: of here. Guys, the cars waved? What do you got?

1981
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: You got anything else? Long Island?

1982
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 4: Luke?

1983
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. This is from Oh my

1984
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: Man from Kubby's Fan Right. What's this guy asking me?

1985
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I can't read the screen? What is the best walkout

1986
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 1: song you have ever heard or seen a fighter walk

1987
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: out to? I mean there's so many. I mean, you know,

1988
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 1: and UFC when you when you hear that DMX, you

1989
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: know you know what time it is. And even Chill's

1990
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Sun and stupid country song that used to come out

1991
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: to just just just hit right. You know. I've always

1992
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: loved Mickey Ward coming out to Here I Go again

1993
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: on my own by White Snake, and it you know,

1994
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 1: it may not like take over the arena, it's just

1995
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of it just fits him. But in boxing it's

1996
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: it's ar Turro Gotti coming out to Thunderstruck by a CD.

1997
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's an event when that happens, right,

1998
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you think the crowd goes nuts

1999
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: for Sweet Caroline in the UK boxing scene, dude in

2000
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Lyonic City when I had actually never been away. I

2001
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: mean that's one of those time machine things. You wish

2002
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: he can go back and be like, why didn't I

2003
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: live five hours from Atlantic City. Why didn't I go

2004
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,600
Speaker 1: to all those gotty fights? Right? Like, shout out to

2005
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: Eric Reskin, he was at all of them. And yeah,

2006
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Mikey's shouting out, Bob O'Reilly. He's right. So what UFC

2007
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: does before the the for only the people in the crowd,

2008
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: before the start of the pay per view main crowd,

2009
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: they play that highlight reel video you know, scored by

2010
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: the Who, Classic Rocks on Boba O'Reilly, and and it

2011
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: always you know, culminates in the you know what, we

2012
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: don't get fooled again. And it's like, you know, Ronda

2013
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 1: Rosey getting head kicked by home Mikey's not wrong. You're

2014
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 1: in the arena and you hear that. That's just like

2015
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: a whole whole hole, and it's it. And I think

2016
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 1: it's inspired by what Top Ranked Boxing had been doing

2017
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times in Las Vegas too. The ten

2018
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: years before that. They have a video called this is

2019
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Boxing where it's this highlight reel of all the best

2020
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 1: ones and Bob Arams promoted every great fight that you love,

2021
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: and and the way that they have the announcer call

2022
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: with the music tie I forgot what song's playing, but

2023
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: tied into like the speed of these and it's just

2024
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 1: it's you can't exit that and not be like, oh

2025
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna you know, I just want to

2026
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I want to punch somebody. That's why these crowdfights are

2027
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: always great, right. I know, I'm butchering and not coming

2028
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: off the top of my head with a million great

2029
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 1: UFC patent did all time great ones. But yeah, that's

2030
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Speaker 1: that's what I got. Okay, I gotta go to the airport,

2031
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: but check me tomorrow night, six pm Eastern Showtime Sports

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Speaker 1: one of the busiest days of all time in combat,

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Speaker 1: and it will be for me too. You can expect

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Speaker 1: scenes who got it done. We did it, We did it.

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Speaker 1: We landed the plane. Sally Sellenberg over here, Sellenburger, take

2051
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Speaker 1: care of yourself out there, guys. Enjoy the fights this weekend,

2052
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: but put this first, Okay, do the right thing. Talk

2053
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 1: to somebody. Just have that talk. You'll be freed, you'll

2054
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: find out all right. We love you, Thank you, guys

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Speaker 1: to words were out. I'm going, I'm gonna go. We're

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Speaker 1: out of here, no more, no more no. I'm like,

2057
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Speaker 1: like the show is over. Okay, I got it, Like

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get on a plane.