WEBVTT - 060323 The News Stories that Need Context (Part 1) 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.880 Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.000 walk me to another episode of Civic Cipher Iami host 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:07.080 Ramsey's job. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.680 What I really don't understand is how Rams expects me 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:17.439 to speak after like the polish and the professionalism that 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.600 he just y'all know what I'm saying, Like he comes 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:27.200 on the air with the silk smooth jazz tones and 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.640 then I'm supposed to come with my regular with my 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.360 regular human voice after that. It's really unfair and we're 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.160 supposed to be brothers. So if y'all can write into 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.400 the show and just you know, on my behalf, let 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.040 Rams just know how y'all feel. I am, by the way, 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:48.320 Qward and this is Civic Cipher. He laugh, and he 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.400 made me laugh, but I was dead serious rather more 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:51.800 to say. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.760 And I think that I think you sound like audible chocolate. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.600 That's what we used to say at station at my 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.400 old radio station. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.760 So y'all don't listen to Round Well anyway, we appreciate 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.000 you listen to them, but not right then, right right, well, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:05.960 we appreciate you tuning in the Civic cycle. We got 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.040 a lot in store for you today. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.000 We are going to be talking about some of the 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.760 things that have been going on in the news that 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.640 we feel are very important to share with you in 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.080 terms of the plight of black and brown people in 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:24.880 this country and some of the developments and stories that 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.640 are kind of shaping what will ultimately be the next 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.920 election cycle. And I think in a more immediate sense, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.000 what are shaping our day to day lives here in 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.440 this country. And I realized that a lot of this 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.280 news may not make it make its way to you. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:41.640 So Q and I are going to go over a 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.640 few stories and make some arguments for let's be honest 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.240 CRT in police reform, but also we're going to be 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.040 talking about the zoot suit riots, for our way Black 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.800 History fact and for our babas segment becoming a better ally. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.840 We're actually going to shout out a couple of police departments, 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.280 which is highly unusual for us. But first and foremost, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.120 like we always do it, this time, we are going 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.920 to discuss some ebony excellence. 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.240 Shall we we shall? 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.919 So today's ABNY Excellence is sponsored by Major Threads for 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.320 the finest in sportswear checkmajorthreads dot com. And today we 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:19.440 are talking about one victim of recent police or a 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:24.480 recent anti black violence Ralph Yarrel. Ralph Yarl was the 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.080 young man who or the boy I should say, who 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.680 knocked on the wrong door and was shot in the 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:35.800 head and the arm. Well he and this comes from 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:41.880 Lack Information Network. He is helping raise money for traumatic 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.120 brain injuries in the aftermath of his own shooting. On 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.840 May twenty ninth, Yarrel and his family participated in the 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.840 Going the Distance for Brain Injury walk run event in 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:57.120 Overland Park, Kansas. This comes for ABC News. The teenager 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:01.200 who suffered from traumatic brain injury following the shooting that 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.160 he was involved in didn't publicly speak during the event, 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.680 but his mother, Cleo Nagbi, gave a speech before its participants, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.359 and she says, quote, when you get a traumatic brain injury, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.560 everybody expects you to look one way, feel one way, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.000 or act one way. But it's not that way, she said. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.680 And everyone's asking me, have you gone back to work yet? 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.880 Has Ralph gone back to school yet? And that's not 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.800 the case. A brain injury is a process, it's not 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:29.080 an event. It takes time. Now the reason that we 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.760 feel that this is Ebony excellence is because. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.760 Obviously he is recovering. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.760 You know that could have been much worse, but during 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.040 his recovery process, he's doing his best to help others. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.040 And as a black person with the weight of the 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.600 world on your shoulders and indeed being a victim of 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.200 anti black violence and finding a way to use that 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.280 and turn it into a positive and gift back, we 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.800 think that that is ebony excellence of the highest order. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:03.080 So shout out to Ralph Yarl once again. Now we 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:03.520 got some. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:08.760 Stuff to talk about. As is the case, our group 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:14.720 chat was popping. The group chat was had some abundance 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:15.040 to it. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.920 Yeah, indeed indeed, so, so to give you a little 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.760 bit of background, we have a show group chat where 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.120 we exchange ideas. We have an email that we forward 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.880 articles that we come across too, and that people send 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.920 articles too if they want us to review it. And 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.560 then of course we pull from social media accounts and 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.560 other things that you our listeners share with us as well, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.520 and we come up with what it is that we 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.560 need to talk about. But there were some things that 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:45.400 hit us in all of those different channels, and before 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.000 we found out that they were coming at us from 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.400 all angles, Q and I talked about them too, and 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:58.800 one of the things that was really sad, and was 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.479 sad is just not a strong enough word here. I'm 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:18.479 really telling in terms of why we need police reform, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.800 what it means to be black and to have your 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.960 skin be perceived as a threat, and indeed what the 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:26.920 realities are. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.159 I know. Go ahead. I wish you guys could see me. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:38.120 Go ahead. Anybody who's listened to more than two do 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.480 we call these episodes? What episodes works? You know, because 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.080 we're on your radio, So I don't know if you 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.480 consider our show an episode, But if you've heard us 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:52.719 more than twice, you know that because you can't see me, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.719 so you see the kind of WinCE and cringe because 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:05.600 Rams this is such a graceful, peaceful optimist, and he 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:15.200 lends some of that grace to people so often. And 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:25.080 our skin color, which points to what they call our race, 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:32.720 but it's more directly related to our ethnicity. It's something 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:37.920 that they don't like. It is not a weapon that 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.560 they fear. It is not this thing that makes them afraid. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.440 It is something that helps them determine that we are 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:51.280 less than they are, that we are beneath them, hence 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:58.320 making it fair for them to treat us as such. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:06.080 And it is more linked to hate. It is more 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:11.800 linked to gross marginalization. It is more linked to racism 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.560 than it is to it being something that they fear 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:21.200 or something that has been weaponized. And when we speak 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.520 about it in those terms, like you know that they 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.160 do these things to us because they're afraid of us, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.559 I always cringe and we as we kind of grow 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.880 and move over to YouTube, you guys will probably be 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:38.080 able to see me react because we're going to be 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:43.560 doing some things live rams just kind of gives them 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.160 that as a not to get out of jail free card. 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.480 But someone can understand why someone would shoot you if 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.240 they were afraid of you, except I know that that's 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.520 not the case. That was not fear based, that was hate. Well, 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.800 hang on right here, I want you to make your 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:07.880 so read for our listeners. This CNN story that we 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.520 have to cover. This is from CNN. Eleven year old 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:16.160 Mississippi boy who was shot by responding police officers calling 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.080 nine to one one has been released from the hospital. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.000 I think his name is a Darien Murray, shot in 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.720 the chest by the Indianola Police Department officer on Saturday 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.120 morning while the officer was responding to a domestic disturbance 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:36.800 call at the child's home. So the responding officer at 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:43.000 the home of this child shot this child. That is incredible. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.960 Nikola Murray and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation told CNN 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.360 that the father of another one of her children arrived 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.000 at the home at four am quote irate end quote, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.160 concerned about her safety. Murray asked a darien to all 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.120 the police. Murray said, the officer who arrived at the 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.520 home had his gun drawn at the front door. Can 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:13.080 I pause there? Why? And I don't expect Ramses to answer. 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.960 I don't expect you to answer, but ponder that he's 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.800 responding to a domestic disturbance call, not a military infantry, 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:29.120 not a armed robbery, not a breaking and entering, but 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.200 a domestic disturbance. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.120 So I'm not going to play Devil's advocate. But I 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.720 want to say what some people who might be listening 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.640 might say. They might say that, well, if the officer 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:47.200 felt that danger was afoot, the officer has the right 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:52.560 to protect himself, and the officers trained to use a weapon, 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:53.560 blah blah blah. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.360 So I want you to an officer who need to 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.360 step his squabbles game up. Yeah, what about them hands. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.000 But listen, no, you need to see what's up with 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:06.079 them paws. But here's hands. So here's what happened left 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.280 and right shoulder blades. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.440 You're not wrong, okay, So we're saying the same thing, right, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:18.800 But people who have been subjected to copaganda for many years, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.959 who have been sold this narrative that the police are 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.120 the good guys. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:24.040 And that. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:30.320 Police might get it wrong sometimes, but that's okay, that's 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.679 the cost of doing business, which is an awful thing 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.520 to say. You wouldn't say that about any other industry 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.560 so often, and you wouldn't say that about any other industry. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.440 And the pilot gets wrong results in death. So so 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:43.280 that's what I was gonna say. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:48.400 If pilots had the same error rate for every plane 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:48.959 that took. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.319 Off, every airline would be on a business, right, And 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.720 not because that would be charage from flying, but because 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.600 they wouldn't be able to afford to operate from all 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.920 the lawsuits. Right. So if it's something that most of 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.719 our law enforcement is protected from, sure, sure, which is 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.880 a reason why there's so little accountability. But here's the 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:07.520 other part of this. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.120 We know one of the reasons in our communities black 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.800 and brown communities, impoverished communities, marginalized communities throughout the country. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:21.600 We know that police misconduct shapes outcomes negatively for our 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.720 families and our communities, right but this also happens in 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.720 white communities too. But because we've as a country bought 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.720 into this narrative that we need policing the way that 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.160 it has been practiced, and it just needs slight nudges 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.679 in the right direction here and there, rather than an 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.440 entire rethinking of what public safety means in an overhaul 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.400 of the criminal justice system. Because of that, we have 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.480 blinded ourselves as a people, indeed black people too, because 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.520 most black people were opposed to the idea of defunding 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.600 the police, because again we've bought into this narrative that 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.080 police reform is the way to do it better. Training, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.920 more funding soware than that's going to change. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:06.520 Weapons. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.520 Well, police have gotten more activity, Police have got more 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.240 money and more training year after year, and these outcomes 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.480 still persist, and it costs people their lives. Right now, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.360 I think, to your point, showing up to fix the 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.600 problem while having a gun drawn is not the type 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.319 of problem fixing that we call on police for. You 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.840 know what, I mean, brant. You want someone who is strong, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.960 who can who knows how to throw hands if necessary, 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.559 show but also you want someone who is trained in 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.680 diffusing the situation, not necessarily someone who's trained in ending lives. Okay, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.560 people have kids. This is this is a thing. This 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.000 is not a black thing. Okay, this is a human thing. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.959 People have kids with each other, and then when they 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.240 have a kid, they fight with each other men and 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.480 women in this example, and. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.440 Not a result of having had children. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.839 It's because you both love the child and you want 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:01.600 to love the child in different ways. This has been 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.960 my experience. Okay, I have children, so I know what 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.360 it's like to deal with their mothers and sometimes it's tense. Okay, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:13.640 police showing up and killing somebody doesn't help, because now 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.679 what do you have? You have a child growing up 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.000 without one parent. So in terms of the. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.360 Parents growing up without the child in this. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:26.240 Case, or yeah potentially that too, right, But what I'm 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.120 saying is that this officer showing up guns blazing add 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:30.640 to your point. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:35.040 Rather, that was a solution to what I'll continue to read. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.560 So yeah, go ahead, Murray said. The officer arrived at 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.839 the home, quote had his gun drawn at the front 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:46.440 door and asked those inside of the home to come outside. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.160 End quote. Murray said her son was shot coming around 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:55.760 the corner of a hallway into the living room. Quote. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.040 Once he became Once he came around the corner, he 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:02.560 got shot. In quote, Murray said, I cannot grasp why. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.240 The same cop that told him to come out of 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:10.560 the house and he did and he got shot. He 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.880 kept asking why did he shoot me? What did I 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:19.760 do wrong? Imagine that it's like put your hands up 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.280 or howl and you do and they shoot you. Anyway, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.360 how old was he? A Darian? I believe was eleven 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.280 years old. Now, I want to paint a picture. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.520 If you haven't seen this story, brown skin, black child, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:42.080 male child. People ask the question, why don't black people 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.120 trust the police? Why don't black people talk to the police. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.680 Why don't black people interact with the police. This is 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.720 a question that often comes from The Boondocks. For those 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.600 that are familiar with the cartoon, The boon Docks. They did 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.160 a whole episode on this and it showed, you know, 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.720 white people's reaction to the police, and oh my god, 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:00.120 I love. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:00.640 Talking the police. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.920 The police are amazing, you know, they get ask them 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.280 how their day was, and you know, give them some 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.520 support and show them some love. And black people are like, no, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.960 I don't even want to see the police. And you're 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.400 starting to kind of get a sense. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.640 It's often terrifying. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.000 Sure, sure, And the thing is, you know, we picked 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.080 these stories and we share them. That's that's only because 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.400 these are the stories that have made national headlines. These 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.720 are stories you're most likely to know and resonate with, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:31.360 and you can easily and readily the information is readily 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.360 available to you if you want to substantiate what indeed 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:39.080 we're talking about. Okay, there are so many stories that 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.080 don't make national headlines. There's so many stories that don't 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:47.560 even get documented. Many black people, I know this, have 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.600 learned to just let it go so you'll never. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.560 Even hear it. This is the peak. This is the 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.800 tip of the icebergs, the peak of the mountain where 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.640 there's all the stories. Sure. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.800 Sure, but these stories plentiful and they definitely shape the 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.080 outcomes of day to day life in America. Imagine, I'm 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.280 gonna paint that picture that you just painted for our listeners. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.800 Imagine you're at home and you get in an argument 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.400 with your child's father. If you're a woman or child's 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.240 mother if you're a male. I've gotten a child in 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.200 an argument before, and I had to call the police, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.520 and then I had to meet the police somewhere else 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.520 so they wouldn't mistake me for the wrong person. Right, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:32.760 and I own my house. Anyway, imagine this happens and 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.160 you need to call the authorities, call the police, right, 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.480 just to let them know. Hey, this is what happened. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.320 In case a neighbor calls or whatever. I'm on top 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.920 of it. Okay, this is who was arguing with. Here's 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.640 what it was. The police show up with their guns out, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.240 and then they shoot your baby after telling him to 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:53.000 come out of the house. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.080 Come out. You're telling everybody to come out. He rounds 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.080 the corner. So no one, and I want to make 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.400 this clear, no one should have been in danger of 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.480 getting shot. Sure from simply listening to the instructions of 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.800 the officer. Absolutely, even the man who you know, I'm 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.720 guessing was the aggressor here should not have been in 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.840 danger of being shot when he complied, as you guys 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.760 insist they should. Why don't they just comply? Well, this 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.600 young man did exactly what he was told, and he 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.359 was shot and could have been killed. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:33.320 So here's my solution. Showing up to a disturbance like 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:38.800 this with a gun increases the likelihood that there will. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:39.359 Be gun violence. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.720 I recognize that lease and guns and this country and 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.840 guns are joined. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.440 At the hip. So what I would like to see, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.520 what I would like to see, That's funny. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.679 They literally hear what I would like to see is 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.520 probably not likely, at least in my lifetime. But I've 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.280 said this before on the show in Australia, sorry in 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:07.120 New Zealand. Been in New Zealand before, and the police 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.200 there will have guns in case they need them, but 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.399 they keep the guns in the trunk of the car, okay, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.080 and it's only for emergencies if it's absolutely necessary. They 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.479 have the same respect from you know, the general public. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.520 People understand that you can't harm police officers because you know, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.560 there's the ultimate punishment or whatever that version of that 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.879 is in their country, and people recognize, okay, I cannot 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.120 interact with the police officers and just treat them any 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:36.760 kind of way. So police don't have all the respect 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.960 that they need. And people aren't getting shot, certainly not 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.480 little boys for doing what they're told by the police. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.080 Right. So again, if you show up with a gun, 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.600 the likelihood that gun violence is going to take place increases, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.760 especially once the gun is drawn. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:56.480 Sure, and remember, there's nothing in this story that suggested 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.320 that anyone in the house had a gun, and not 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.160 at least not that what I read now maybe more. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.600 And it also might lead you to believe that it 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.840 didn't matter who turned that corner. Yeah, somebody was getting shot. 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.439 Someone he had the gunt. Now know that because an 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.280 eleven year old turned the corner, right, that's how we know. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.440 There's the proof. An eleven year old turned the corner 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.359 and was shot after being told. So whoever, he didn't 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.840 surprise anybody shot, He didn't surprise anybody. 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.840 So if that were just the only story that we had, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.600 that would be more than enough to help tell this, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.000 to help establish this truth. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.880 But I'm gonna read from the Independent this time. I'll 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:40.639 take it please. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.160 A man who waited twelve years for a heart transplant 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.760 has died after he was denied medication during a stint 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.879 in jail following a dispute with a neighbor. Dexter Berry, 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.800 fifty four met. Dozens of doctors underwent intricate procedures and 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.679 even moved to different states and his efforts to improve 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.840 his health. According to the Tribute, in twenty twenty, he 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.520 received a new heart, allowing him to return to his 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:08.280 normal life, but last year he was arrested on a 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.160 misdemeanor charge, leading him to spending two days in jail 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:16.040 without his medication. His body then appeared to reject his 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.200 new heart. Mister Barry's neighbor called the emergency services in November, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.639 claiming that the fifty four year old had said he 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.160 would beat him up following a dispute regarding Wi Fi access, 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.639 which had lasted weeks. No fight ever took place, but 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.200 mister Barry was arrested on a charge of simple assault. 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.399 Mister Barry told Jacksonville, Florida officer as many as seven 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.480 times that he needed his medication every day, according to 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.840 the outlet, citing body cam footage. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.040 So we have. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:52.200 Another instance of I think I remember what you sent 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.040 to the group text when you sent this article over 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:56.760 from the Independent. 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.680 I think there was from the office. Yeah, in the backseat, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.800 back seat, and him saying making them aware that he 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.560 needed his medication. My medicine is in the house. Being 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.639 arrested for a simple assault that he didn't commit and 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:14.240 lieu of a fight actually happening is wild and another truth. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:24.240 When your skin looks like ours, it is you know 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.560 how I come on here and just express that I'm tired. 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.000 One of these days I want somebody to say how 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:43.600 you doing and to say okay and mean it right. 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:47.399 Ramses and I do this every day. We talk to 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:53.160 you guys once a week, but we do this every day. Right. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.560 Think about all of the stuff that just happens in 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.520 your normal day to day life, having nothing to do 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.879 with your race, nothing to do with politics, nothing to 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:07.359 do with the police, just life, bills, hardships, illnesses, you know, family, children, love, life, work, 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.800 And then stack on top of that seven days worth 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.000 of stories like this about people that look like you 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.560 whose only crime was that they look like you. 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.600 Imagine the people whose stories we can't tell, the people 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.040 that know that reach out to us personally. Hey, something 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:29.080 happened to my cousin, my son, can you help you know? 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.359 And we have to wait to make sure that we have. 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.360 This man went through all you have to go through 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.640 just to get an organ transplant, heart transplants, so an 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:44.000 even more difficult transplant to get had a successful transplant surgery, 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.200 got arrested for a fight that didn't happen over Wi 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.119 Fi and died because he was denied medication that he 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.919 made them where he needed and the only reason that 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:59.760 this wasn't take. So now I'm making proclamations that I 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:05.560 don't know to be true, but I'm going to assume. 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.200 It's not a word I like to use, but I'd 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.000 like to think if this young man wasn't a black man, 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.320 that he wouldn't have been left to die because he 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:19.840 couldn't get access to medication that person who needed. 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:21.479 But I think i'll take it a step further too, 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.600 if he wasn't a black man. Here's what I would bet. 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.399 I would bet the neighbor was not black. They're fighting 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:33.159 over Wi Fi and he goes to jail or a 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:38.040 threat you know the neighbor. You know, this country, a 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.800 lot of especially people on the right, they talk about 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.800 how much they espouse the free speech in the Second Amendment, 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:43.800 first and the second Amendments. 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.280 They don't know the rest of them. But you know, 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:49.440 over Wi Fi. 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.520 I don't imagine anybody's going to jail over an argument 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.199 over Wi Fi if they don't look like you or me. 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:05.720