Speaker 1: All right, this is Chase that Lee.
Speaker 2: This is the Phillies show, Ruben Omar Junior, Jim Salisbury,
Speaker 2: Todd Zleki. It is an emergency pod. I gotta do
Speaker 2: a couple of those emergency pod. It's Monday, August third,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, and the Phillies have made a couple
Speaker 2: of trades. They got louise A Rise and Caleb Killian
Speaker 2: from the Giants and then Lefty Brooks Railey from the Mets.
Speaker 2: Will go over all the details in a bit, but
Speaker 2: I guess the headliner Jim Rubin is louise A Rise Rubin.
Speaker 2: I imagine.
Speaker 3: I love the listen. I know he's not right handed,
Speaker 3: but that's not the issue. They need to inject some
Speaker 3: on base percentage, some contact quality hitter.
Speaker 1: This is just quality hitters.
Speaker 3: You're going to have close as close to it Tony
Speaker 3: Gwynn type as you're going to possibly get.
Speaker 1: The on base percentage has been an issue.
Speaker 3: Creating run possibilities has been an issue.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who's going to get hits.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna walk a lot, he's not going to
Speaker 3: strike out ever, but he's going to make contact and
Speaker 3: I think he's going to without a question. He's going
Speaker 3: to compliment this.
Speaker 1: This lineup really really well.
Speaker 3: Not it's not the same sort of impact as a
Speaker 3: pied Alonzo would have from the right side, because it's
Speaker 3: not a power bat, but this is a quality bat
Speaker 3: that will help lengthen the lineup, create more opportunities to
Speaker 3: score runs. And that's really what you want from a
Speaker 3: from a lineup that really struggles with on base percentage
Speaker 3: and struggles to to lengthen innings and put pressure on
Speaker 3: a pitcher.
Speaker 4: Agree, the on base percentage factor and putting the bat
Speaker 4: on the ball is huge. He also brings a ton
Speaker 4: of energy, which I look at this team and this
Speaker 4: offense and say, yeah, you could really benefit from that.
Speaker 4: And you know, sometimes offense equals energy. So I love
Speaker 4: the pickup from that perspective. I think there's a lot
Speaker 4: of risk, a lot of moving parts, a lot of
Speaker 4: potential risk. I mean, you're asking Bryce in Stott to
Speaker 4: play somewhere. I don't think he's played since spring training
Speaker 4: briefly in twenty twenty two. But he's a baseball player.
Speaker 4: I think he can do it, but you never know.
Speaker 4: I think Alec Bum's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: At first.
Speaker 4: Bryce hasn't played the outfield right field since twenty two,
Speaker 4: but I should be able to do.
Speaker 1: It for a couple months.
Speaker 4: There's also an element. Okay, Bryce, you know, we got
Speaker 4: you some offense, but we're really gonna need you to
Speaker 4: back it up and be the guy who wore the
Speaker 4: last few days. He's picked it up this week. I'm
Speaker 4: a little concerned about, you know, middle of a field
Speaker 4: defense already very shaky at at shortstop. A Rise is
Speaker 4: not the defender that Stott is, at least with my eyeballs.
Speaker 4: You know, you could maybe look at some advanced metrics
Speaker 4: that might tell you otherwise. But look, I admire the
Speaker 4: creativity and I think it has the potential for a
Speaker 4: lot of upside for three months.
Speaker 1: We shall see.
Speaker 4: I'm still curious to see if they bring in some
Speaker 4: starting pitching because I'm worried about the starting pitching depth.
Speaker 4: You lose one of those guys, I think you're in trouble.
Speaker 4: But they have addressed and offense that gets shut out
Speaker 4: too much, that scores one run too much, that looks
Speaker 4: kind of lifeless too much, And if you only got
Speaker 4: so many bullets and so many you know, opportunities to
Speaker 4: fill multiple holes I think it's a pretty good shot
Speaker 4: they have taken.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rise is batting three twenty four power numbers don't matter,
Speaker 2: four home runs, forty three RBIs eight hundred oh ps.
Speaker 2: He's walked twenty five times this season. He's struck out
Speaker 2: only twenty one times. Strikeout rate four and a half percent. Guys,
Speaker 2: that's the best by far out of one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty qualified hitters in Major League Baseball. I think the
Speaker 2: next best guy is Nico Hornert, like eight and a
Speaker 2: half percent. So this is a guy that's gonna put
Speaker 2: the ball in play. He's gonna hit for a high average.
Speaker 2: He's gonna help out a little bit. That three h
Speaker 2: four team on base percentage, which is tied for I
Speaker 2: think twenty eighth in baseball not good. That the inability
Speaker 2: to extend innings or cashing on route, cashing on runners
Speaker 2: on base has been super pop problematic. I think they've
Speaker 2: scored one or fewer runs twenty six times this season.
Speaker 2: It's like third most in baseball. So we know all
Speaker 2: the offensive problems. So yeah, I think the expectation, of
Speaker 2: course is at Bryce's Yeah, is Bryce my understanding, Jim,
Speaker 2: you're understanding Ruben you're understanding is that Bryce is gonna
Speaker 2: move out to the outfield unless something.
Speaker 4: He's already said he would. I mean, he said, you know,
Speaker 4: you've talked to him, but he has told team officials
Speaker 4: in the short term here revolving revolving around this arise deal,
Speaker 4: that yes he will.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's that's good. I mean, going
Speaker 2: back to last Monday, you know in Miami had his
Speaker 2: outfielders glove ready for this opportunity in this moment, he said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: why do you guys keep asking me this. I've said
Speaker 2: I will play in the outfield. I will play in
Speaker 2: the outfield for a couple of months.
Speaker 1: And I did ask him.
Speaker 2: I said that you think like physically, like how is
Speaker 2: that gonna go? And and he kind of dead panties, like, well,
Speaker 2: Bobby's got me running around every day in the infield.
Speaker 2: This actually could be good for me. I can have
Speaker 2: Bobby Dickerson up my up my butt every day doing
Speaker 2: infield drills. So he thinks that he can play out
Speaker 2: there in the short term, what do you Okay, who
Speaker 2: knows when a rise is going to get here? Where
Speaker 2: would you hit him in the lineup?
Speaker 1: So here's a couple of things. I got it. I
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, probably in the one hole.
Speaker 3: But I here's here's where I'm at on a couple
Speaker 3: of different things. The arise thing not only helps lengthen
Speaker 3: out the lineup, but he gives you a little bit
Speaker 3: of different dynamic, no question about it.
Speaker 1: We talked about that already, and I do think Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I think. I agree.
Speaker 3: I think he's in the one hole and trays into
Speaker 3: two hole, and then beyond that that then that's Don
Speaker 3: Mattingly's deal.
Speaker 1: Fourth. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the question that I have is I think that
Speaker 3: Harparo hit third and then Schwarbrol hit fourth.
Speaker 1: I believe, but I believe. So here's the thing.
Speaker 3: There's a residual thing that can happen with having a
Speaker 3: rise on the club.
Speaker 1: What can it do.
Speaker 3: I believe that it will help hitters like Bryce and Stott.
Speaker 3: I think it'll help hitters like Justin Crawford. I think
Speaker 3: it will help maybe even some of the other guys.
Speaker 3: This is a veteran bat that is probably going to
Speaker 3: be imparting some of his thought process and knowledge and
Speaker 3: all those things. It's not going to change everybody's approach,
Speaker 3: and that's not gonna happen necessarily, But I do think
Speaker 3: that his commitment to the way he approaches at bats
Speaker 3: has can rub off from the rest of or parts
Speaker 3: of the rest of the lineup. Just the thought there,
Speaker 3: that's number one, number two, why not and if I'm
Speaker 3: the GM, and if I'm Don Mattingly, why not just
Speaker 3: put him at first base and then move Bryce Harper
Speaker 3: to write because that improves probably a little bit, or
Speaker 3: it's at least a neutral at first base, might even
Speaker 3: improve a little bit because he's had experienced playing first base.
Speaker 3: I know he wanted to play second base, but he's
Speaker 3: now with a new team, and he's now in a
Speaker 3: contending situation. I don't think he can dictate where he's
Speaker 3: gonna play. He's gonna be a free agent anyway. And
Speaker 3: number two, I think, Jim, you hit a great point.
Speaker 1: I think you can't make your middle infield any worse.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that defensively? And that's a concern
Speaker 1: because now it becomes a little worse because he's not
Speaker 1: as good a defenders as Bryson Stott second base. You
Speaker 1: already have.
Speaker 3: Somebody's a little bit of a liability at times at short.
Speaker 3: That concerns me so why not just put him at
Speaker 3: first and send and and have Bryson Scott excuse me,
Speaker 3: Rice Harper play right field. That is a very simple move.
Speaker 3: You don't have to move four guys. Now you just
Speaker 3: move one and or now you just.
Speaker 1: Move two instead of four. That's my final thing. You
Speaker 1: also make you make your overall defense better.
Speaker 4: I don't think he wants to. I've seen reports he
Speaker 4: does not want to come off second. He wants to
Speaker 4: play second. So I again, I don't know if that
Speaker 4: that might have a lot to do with it. I mean,
Speaker 4: how about another concern you are you're very left handed.
Speaker 4: You're very left handed.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that doesn't concern me as much because I don't
Speaker 3: view him as like a left just a lefty on
Speaker 3: left because he himself.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not.
Speaker 3: Those other guys aren't flipping over and hitting the right.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be left handed anyway. This guy's a left
Speaker 3: handed hitter who can hit his left handers and put
Speaker 3: the ball in play and do all those things that
Speaker 3: are necessary.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't I didn't look at all the splits.
Speaker 3: But my from my eyes and from what I understand
Speaker 3: about the player, we can look at the splits.
Speaker 1: I just think that he's you know, he's.
Speaker 3: An everyday player, and he's an everyday player who has
Speaker 3: success against lefties end rightings.
Speaker 4: And you're putting a lot on base percentage in the
Speaker 4: top of your lineup, ahead of Turner, ahead of Harper,
Speaker 4: ahead of Schwarber, So that should equal.
Speaker 2: More damage a batting three point fifteen with the seven
Speaker 2: eighty two ops this season against lefties, eight or nine
Speaker 2: ops against righty's. So I mean, he's doesn't matter who's
Speaker 2: thrown to him. I guess as we know. I mean,
Speaker 2: you hit three, three twenty every year for the last
Speaker 2: how many years?
Speaker 3: You know, Gott he's as close to an element to
Speaker 3: Tony gwyn as you as you can have right now
Speaker 3: in this particular era. Not the power, but I mean
Speaker 3: just having that guy at the top of the lineup, uh,
Speaker 3: the on base all all the things that he brings
Speaker 3: to the table, the the ability to grind it bats
Speaker 3: and make it more difficult on the pitcher and to
Speaker 3: you know, to get that starting pitcher out of the
Speaker 3: game faster. I mean, all types of things that are
Speaker 3: that that. I mean, the domino effect of having that
Speaker 3: type of a hitter is pretty grandiose pretty big.
Speaker 2: Jim Rubin, don't get mad at me. Now, I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell you something, Okay, don't get mad at me. Well,
Speaker 2: we used to rise outs above average this season at
Speaker 2: second base plus eleven, second best in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2: Bryce and Scott six outs above average, ninth in Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball. So so we'll see, we will see, we
Speaker 2: will see how he does it second base.
Speaker 4: But I can't believe those Bryce and Stott numbers.
Speaker 3: I just think I just think that overall, you're a
Speaker 3: better defensive team. Right by just putting a rise at
Speaker 3: first and Bryce and right, you're just.
Speaker 1: A better team. But I don't make those decisions that
Speaker 1: I'm not paid to do. So.
Speaker 2: So, if you have bryceon right, obviously he's playing every day,
Speaker 2: how do you what do you do in center? What
Speaker 2: do you do in left? Brian day La Cruz has
Speaker 2: been swinging a good bat. Do you put him in
Speaker 2: the left field with Brandon Marsh you have and then
Speaker 2: you have then you have Derrek Hill and Justin Crawford
Speaker 2: platoon and center? Yeah right, yes, yes, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: we're on it. Look at us on the same page.
Speaker 4: I still shake my head at some of the metrics
Speaker 4: on Bryson Stott's defense, becausehen I look at him, Hillies,
Speaker 4: I see a terrific defense, and.
Speaker 1: It's not a slight on our rise.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, I just feel like you have
Speaker 3: so many more moving parts.
Speaker 1: If you, if you, if.
Speaker 3: You move boom from and Boone's been fine at third,
Speaker 3: Boone doesn't play a lot of first base.
Speaker 5: I'm not that impressed with the way Boone. I mean,
Speaker 5: you don't know how Boonem's gonna play at first. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if you're gonna play great at first, is Stott gonna
Speaker 5: play great at third?
Speaker 1: I mean that's a concern to me, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's one of those things that, like the average
Speaker 2: Joe doesn't really think about until there's a big play
Speaker 2: in the game and then you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a totally different play for Bryson Stott
Speaker 5: to come running in on a bare hand swinging bunt
Speaker 5: to run bunt plays.
Speaker 1: I know he's been in the infield.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I like his instinct and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: But ball coming off the bat so differently from from
Speaker 3: third base rather than second base, so different And yes,
Speaker 3: can he play the position, but can he play the
Speaker 3: position when you have like a man on third base
Speaker 3: or first and third and you need a double play,
Speaker 3: and does he make the decision if the balls hit
Speaker 3: hard enough to go to the double play or does
Speaker 3: he go to home. It's just a totally different thing
Speaker 3: for him to do and so many different responsibilities. I
Speaker 3: just feel like the easier move is to put a
Speaker 3: rise at first and Bryson right, I'm gonna be hound.
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Speaker 2: Might need one today as this trade deadline approaches. To
Speaker 2: tricks that we haven't even talked about. The bullpen pieces,
Speaker 2: guys like Brooks Raley, Caleb Killian, just in terms of
Speaker 2: depth improving the app. They needed it. We know they
Speaker 2: needed it. We knew they were going to go out
Speaker 2: and get it. But Brooks Ralli has had a pretty
Speaker 2: nice year and it really solves a problem from the
Speaker 2: left handed side.
Speaker 1: Two big league pitchers, two big league pictures.
Speaker 4: Right Killians pitched at the back end for the Giants,
Speaker 4: a bit this year, gets some strikeouts. Raley's tough against
Speaker 4: the lefties, but also having a good year against righties.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think something to like here about
Speaker 4: these two acquisitions is they hung on to Andrew Painter, who, Okay,
Speaker 4: you know, say what you want about him. I still
Speaker 4: think he's got a lot of talent and can end
Speaker 4: up being a good picture for this team for a
Speaker 4: long time. I'm still a believer. So you hang on
Speaker 4: to Andrew Painter, who was coveted quite a bit in
Speaker 4: this trade deadline. You hang on to gage Wood, who
Speaker 4: is coveted, was coveted quite a bit at this trade deadline.
Speaker 4: You lose Marquez and ascending talent kind of really has
Speaker 4: come on and landed on the map this year. A
Speaker 4: lot of people like him. But I think it's a
Speaker 4: sacrifice what actually had to make.
Speaker 2: So the Phillies have announced that we're recording this in
Speaker 2: the afternoon. Phillies officially announced that the Arise deal has happened,
Speaker 2: and to make room for them on the roster, they
Speaker 2: dfa Lou Trevino and Peyton Henry. So there's there's your
Speaker 2: corresponding forty men roster moves.
Speaker 1: Let's not make a small deal out of the Brooks
Speaker 1: Rally deal. Okay, the Brooks Rally deal is big. I
Speaker 1: mean you look at the numbers.
Speaker 3: Got forty five games pitched to one point nine to
Speaker 3: six cra a whip that's under one point one. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is a guy that's had a lot of success.
Speaker 3: He's got the lefties hitting one to eighty six. Listen,
Speaker 3: beyond Alvarado is starting to throw a little bit better.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I trust this guy, maybe more
Speaker 3: than Alvarado. I certainly trust him more than mays En Bacchus.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've made a very not just an incremental
Speaker 3: improvement on your back end of your bullpen up, pretty
Speaker 3: significant one. It'd be nice to get another one. I'd
Speaker 3: love to get another lockdown right hand or I don't
Speaker 3: know if they can do that, and I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: And and Raley's done well against left right handers as well,
Speaker 3: so he may be sliding into that eight slot, who knows,
Speaker 3: or mixing match with he and Jonathan Bollen, who's sort
Speaker 3: of stepped forward.
Speaker 1: But they made him. That's it. That's a pretty big move, folks. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: don't don't.
Speaker 3: Don't think for a minute now, will he perform. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but but he's been there, he's done it.
Speaker 1: He's been around.
Speaker 3: This guy who's throwing the ball very well, he's getting
Speaker 3: people out.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy. He's been around. I know he's
Speaker 1: not young, but that's important. You'd like to have veteran
Speaker 1: guys who have been through the wars a little bit.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's a nice vote. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they got him at a very low cost.
Speaker 2: They did, They did. Bikerman was like ranked twenty seventh
Speaker 2: in the system and Gabris Saint Joe's guy on his
Speaker 2: way up to New York. But it's a good time.
Speaker 2: Amy Alvarado has been throwing the ball better lately, so
Speaker 2: maybe they can if they could get both of those
Speaker 2: guys going. Now all of a sudden, that those seventh
Speaker 2: and eighth innings aren't like, hold on to your butts,
Speaker 2: hold on your h Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: You mentioned you mentioned Alvarado, and this ties all into
Speaker 4: what something we've talked about now for a couple of
Speaker 4: years in a row. Their success is still going to
Speaker 4: be tied to their existing core guys who've done in
Speaker 4: the past, the guys with the track records. Harper I
Speaker 4: would even put Alvarado on that list. It's been a
Speaker 4: key contributor around here. He needs to be a key
Speaker 4: contributor again. They need Turner to keep swinging it and
Speaker 4: sharpest defense. They need the three all stars who had
Speaker 4: really disappointing julys Marsh, Schwarmer, and Harper all had difficult July.
Speaker 4: They need him to get back on the horse and
Speaker 4: really you know, be strong, productive contributors the rest of
Speaker 4: the way here.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, so we'll see stay healthy in the rotation.
Speaker 1: They need one hundred percent health in the rotation, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I think there's some there's some optimism for
Speaker 1: me on Painter. This is the way through.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can continue and get continue
Speaker 3: to improve and gain in his overall confidence.
Speaker 1: But uh, that's a piece of this as well.
Speaker 3: That's going to be important because Painter needs They need
Speaker 3: some wins out of four and five slot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see if the Phillies make any more
Speaker 2: trades before the six pm Eastern deadline. I don't think
Speaker 2: we're gonna do any more emergency pods today unless they
Speaker 2: go out and do something.
Speaker 1: Unless they go get Pete Alonzo now.
Speaker 2: And Mike Trout, they get Trout and Alonso will have
Speaker 2: an emergency pod, another emergency pod. Otherwise, though, I think
Speaker 2: we're planning to get together on Tuesday morning to discuss
Speaker 2: everything that Dave Dombrowski had to say about these trades.
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper, you know, Bryce and stuff, Alec Baum, all
Speaker 2: these moving pieces you know in terms of the bullpen
Speaker 2: Don Mattingly of course. So we'll be back Tuesday morning
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