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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in lay. CAIG is live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, August first, the Ear of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. To put it in the proper context,

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Speaker 2: there are college football games that count in real life.

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Speaker 1: This month. We're that close.

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Speaker 2: I got an email from a very very spirited Hawaii

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Speaker 2: fan the other day that said my name would change

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Speaker 2: from Josh paid to Josh Late because I'm ignoring that

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Speaker 2: game and we'll only pay attention after they upset UCLA.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit of my inbox this week. Also psychopaths

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Speaker 2: who think I'm the creator of outer banks that filled

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Speaker 2: my inbox this week. But it has been a spirited week. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: we're jam packed tonight. This is the last week of

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Speaker 2: our two show per week format. So this time next

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Speaker 2: week we will be flipping the switch. Colin, I don't

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Speaker 2: know where the switch is, but we flip it, and

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Speaker 2: we go to three shows per week Sunday night, Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: Thursday night. And we've got camp whispers and Intel. We

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Speaker 2: got Raw Noodle Express gave me chillbumps just saying it.

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Speaker 2: We got Rama Noodle Express coming, we have got Grand

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Speaker 2: season previews, We've got all sorts of stuff, coming to

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Speaker 2: pack into a month. Some would say it's not possible.

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Speaker 2: I may agree with them, but we're gonna try anyway. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: the next Domino to Fall, We've talked about conference alignment

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Speaker 2: in realignment, I've gotten kind of tired of talking about it,

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Speaker 2: so we got to talk about it from some different angles.

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Speaker 1: And also I'm going to sort of kick.

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Speaker 2: It off with an addressing of sorts of some of

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Speaker 2: the popular talking points out there, and I'll just leave

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Speaker 2: it at that.

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Speaker 1: We'll circle back to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: Title contenders are vulnerable this year, especially early in the season.

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Speaker 2: We will discuss Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State. Earlier today, I

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Speaker 2: asked you first four weeks of the season over under

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Speaker 2: those three teams losing a combined one and a half games,

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Speaker 2: and most of you think under. So most of you

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Speaker 2: think either two of them or all three of them

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Speaker 2: may disagree, So we will discuss this evening. Fall camps

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Speaker 2: open this week. That's really what I should have led

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Speaker 2: the show with. Fall camps are opening this week. By

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Speaker 2: Friday or Saturday, most teams will be in fall camp.

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Speaker 2: There are some areas of focus. We won't even come

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Speaker 2: close to scratching the surface of getting to all of

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Speaker 2: it tonight, but we will at least start to scratch

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Speaker 2: the surface tonight all of that, and we are going

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Speaker 2: a radically different direction.

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say for the end of

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: But I came to a realization the other day about

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh and his time at Michigan and what it

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Speaker 2: perfectly parallels in the cinematic world. And it's frightening, so

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Speaker 2: frightening that you may actually think his tenure at Michigan

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Speaker 2: has been written by a Hollywood casting director. One thing

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Speaker 2: that I want to throw out there before we start

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Speaker 2: to night, because we have a jam packed show, is

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Speaker 2: I put out the call to action last week.

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Speaker 1: I want to be fair.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to put it in a few shows so

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Speaker 2: as many people as possible have a chance. As you know,

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Speaker 2: we have an entire army of volunteers that help out

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes for the show during the season. If

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Speaker 2: you want in on that. There are several areas that

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Speaker 2: I need help in and those of you who participated

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Speaker 2: last year know what it's about. I need you to

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Speaker 2: be able to dedicate a few hours per week This

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Speaker 2: is strictly volunteer.

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Speaker 1: It is for love of the game. I've got like

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Speaker 2: If you want in on that, joshpaid seven zero six

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Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. And let me give you three

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Speaker 2: areas that I'm looking for that I have not designated yet.

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Speaker 2: If you're good at animation or graphic design, if you

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Speaker 2: are a master in the world of TikTok, and if

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Speaker 2: you understand.

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Speaker 1: Marketing, I'll keep it generic.

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Speaker 2: Hit me up joshpay seven zero six at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Also Twitter, Instagram, blowing up, keep them growing. At Latekickjosh,

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Speaker 2: didn't disappoint this week, I would suffice it to say,

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Speaker 2: if you were following me there, didn't disappoint this week,

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Speaker 2: you had to have been there.

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Speaker 1: I can't sum it up now.

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Speaker 2: So at Latekickjosh, Okay, let's hit the reset button on

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Speaker 2: all this. We know what we've been talking about with

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Speaker 2: conference realignment. We know Texas and Oklahoma going to the SEC.

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Speaker 2: All that is sort of in one way in the

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Speaker 2: all that, So I'm not going to take tonight and

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Speaker 2: restate the obvious. So let's dive in here, conference realignment,

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Speaker 2: the future of college football, expanded playoff.

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Speaker 1: Why not throw it in there, all encompassing. What does

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Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about this stuff, as we

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Speaker 2: have a great deal lately, it elicits a very wide

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Speaker 2: range of emotions. I have observed there are really kind

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Speaker 2: of four different compartments you could fit into.

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Speaker 1: Compartment number one is the all.

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Speaker 2: Change is good crowd, and anyone who argues you're just

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Speaker 2: anti progress, confusing change and progress all the time. Compartment

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Speaker 2: number two is I'm okay with change, but it's just

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Speaker 2: cool with the change. Let's realign these conferences. Let's go

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Speaker 1: There's a third.

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Speaker 2: Group of people, and those people are also okay with

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Speaker 1: That's where yours truly resides.

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Speaker 2: And then group four is just take me back to

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Speaker 2: leather helmets. You fit into one of those compartments, And

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Speaker 1: Now the leather helmet crowd. That's a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: But those of you who are all about any kind

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Speaker 2: as we would tell you, the betterment of college football

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Speaker 2: and preserving the tradition of college football. And you look

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is the way it is right now.

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Speaker 2: Having set the framework, this week, Kirk Herbstreet goes on

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Speaker 2: There we go, So kirkirk Street does a Sports Center

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Speaker 2: he says, and I quote, I hate losing the tradition

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Speaker 2: heard several people talk like that, me chief among them.

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Speaker 2: I feel the exact same way Kirkirkstreet does about this,

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Speaker 1: And here's the response. You get the like minded among

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Speaker 2: But the ones in group one and two, the ones

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Speaker 2: about change, but they're on board with this, they tend

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Speaker 1: And I know good and will if you've been paying attention,

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Speaker 2: If you're against these changes in college football, there's a

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Speaker 2: because this is going down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. You don't have to be happy about it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to cheer it on.

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Speaker 2: Like I think, everyone with sane mind can see the

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Speaker 2: in our own way radical concept in college football, there

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Speaker 2: is a complete changing of the tide here. Everyone can

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Speaker 2: any new news to me when you tell me this

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Speaker 2: is about money. This is about power and consolidating it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone gets that. Man, We've gone through third grade economics,

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Speaker 2: We've watched the movie Wall Street. Everyone understands how it works.

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Speaker 1: And as I kind of summed it up the other day, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not ignoring the realities of life to push back against

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Speaker 1: As I said the other day, I get how that works.

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Speaker 2: Center and says, I want to be naive. I want

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Speaker 2: pageantry and maintaining the fabric of this sport, this one

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Speaker 1: Folks like that aren't ignorant. I'm not ignorant to this.

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Speaker 1: He's not ignorant to that. We get it, just don't

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Speaker 2: It's the preserve mentality, as I told you again, in

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Speaker 2: the entire city, if you will, of American sports. Over

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Speaker 2: the last several decades, we've had the preserve in place.

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Speaker 2: We've had the checks, we've had the balances, we've had

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Speaker 2: not even close to perfectly, but perfect enough for us

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Speaker 2: all that's ever kept it from being unique and what

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Speaker 2: I hate that this is happening. It's just an appreciation

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Speaker 2: for something, and it's a passion for something. Loving the

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Speaker 2: tradition and pageantry of college football is not a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: And just because you push back and get someone trying

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Speaker 2: You also don't have to demonize the people that are

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Speaker 2: the same decisions they were. So it sounds kind of

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Speaker 2: wish we could maintain everything that we love about this.

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Speaker 2: But then I also say, out of the other side

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Speaker 2: Award winning offensive line. Leatherwood's gone, Deonte Brown's gone. I

438
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Speaker 2: think Dickerson was one of the most underrated players in

439
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Speaker 2: all of college football last year, and he's gone too,

440
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Speaker 2: So you're not just replacing talent there. You're replacing cohesion,

441
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Speaker 2: which is always important on an offensive line, but the

442
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Speaker 2: leadership aspect, which is not quantifiable in any kind of

443
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Speaker 2: statistical breakdown, you'll see that's also something that's a void

444
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Speaker 2: that's got to be filled. They don't lack options. But

445
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Speaker 2: we're not talking about November when they've hit their stride.

446
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about early in the year, So their first

447
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Speaker 2: six weeks, they'll be favored, probably by double digits in

448
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Speaker 2: every one of these games, but there are some spots

449
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Speaker 2: here where you better bring it or you could find

450
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Speaker 2: your lip bloody and a tie ball game in the

451
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, you obviously know. They open against Miami, they

452
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Speaker 2: go to Florida in week three, they have Ole Miss,

453
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Speaker 2: rested Ole Miss team a couple of weeks later in

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Speaker 2: Bryant Denys Stadium, and then they go to Texas A

455
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Speaker 2: and m the very next week. None of these are cakewalks,

456
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Speaker 2: at least they shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Be at the beginning of a game.

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Speaker 2: Final score may make it look differently, But two things

459
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Speaker 2: to think about with Bama early in the year. Think

460
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Speaker 2: about all the new on offense, quarterback, running back, wide receiver,

461
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Speaker 2: offensive line, offensive coordinator. The thing to focus on with

462
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Speaker 2: them that you got so comfortable with last year as

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Speaker 2: a Bama fan is ball security.

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Speaker 1: That's the first thing.

465
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Speaker 2: And then the second thing is that timing and rhythm

466
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Speaker 2: where they almost look like a video game last year,

467
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Speaker 2: especially after the first few weeks of the season. That

468
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Speaker 2: timing and rhythm, all that newness with standing also with

469
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Speaker 2: the new pieces on that offensive line, when you face

470
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Speaker 2: some of the talent, especially on the defensive fronts they'll

471
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Speaker 2: face in these first six or so weeks of the season,

472
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Speaker 2: they will not face a team that matches them man

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Speaker 2: for man. They will face some teams that can make

474
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Speaker 2: it tough matchup wise for them up front. If that

475
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Speaker 2: offensive line does not round into the form you're used

476
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Speaker 2: to seeing Alabama play at early enough, that's what could

477
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Speaker 2: trip Alabama up. Let's move to Ohio State. What could

478
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Speaker 2: trip Ohio State up this year? Before we even talk

479
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Speaker 2: about them tripping up, there is something happening right now.

480
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Speaker 2: It's sort of quiet on the national landscape. Ohio State

481
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Speaker 2: fans are talking about it NonStop. It's about to be

482
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Speaker 2: the biggest story in college football. At least for August.

483
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Speaker 2: I think, at least when it comes to on field matters,

484
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Speaker 2: quinn Ewers is very likely to transfer, well, not transfer,

485
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Speaker 2: I guess you don'transfer from high school. Quinn Ewers is

486
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Speaker 2: very likely to leave high school early, which was already

487
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Speaker 2: a headline, and enroll at Ohio State. But a lot

488
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Speaker 2: of you out there are, I think, misinterpreting what that means.

489
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Speaker 2: You think he's going to leave early and so he

490
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Speaker 2: can soak up all that nil money and then he'll

491
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Speaker 2: be on campus in the spring like a normal early

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Speaker 2: enroll league.

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Speaker 1: That's not what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Again, this is not finalized, but there are multiple folks

495
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Speaker 2: out there close to the Ohio State program who would

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Speaker 2: lead you to believe quin yours is not only highly

497
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Speaker 2: likely to be at Ohio State this year, he's likely

498
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Speaker 2: to be there sometime in fall camp and eligible to

499
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Speaker 2: play this year. Now you may look at Ohio State

500
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Speaker 2: and say, big deal, they're loaded at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They are. He's as good as anyone they have. It's

502
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Speaker 1: very rare to say.

503
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Speaker 2: That about a high school guy, especially one that's going

504
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Speaker 2: to skip his senior year of high school.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Look up quin

506
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Speaker 1: yours if you don't know what I mean.

507
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Speaker 2: He's like a twenty five year old man, full grown

508
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Speaker 2: twenty five year old man, not your mail man, a

509
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Speaker 2: full grown twenty five year old man, legendary mullet, legendary

510
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Speaker 2: arm that you will come to know if you don't already.

511
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Speaker 2: And so I was over on Buttonnuts earlier today. I

512
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Speaker 2: was looking at Dave and some of the guys talking

513
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Speaker 2: about this. It's kind of a new concept. No one

514
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Speaker 2: really knows what to make of it. And I was

515
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Speaker 2: reading Biddle over there, and this does not surprise me

516
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Speaker 2: at all, saying, listen, truth be told. The Ohio State

517
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Speaker 2: staff's not all that thrilled about this. They're not about

518
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Speaker 2: to hit the brakes on it. Remember, they flipped him.

519
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Speaker 2: This is the number one quarterback in America for this

520
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two cycle. They flipped him from Texas. He's

521
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Speaker 2: from Texas to begin with. And so think about what

522
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Speaker 2: all that could mean. Okay, now you've seen this stuff

523
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Speaker 2: and it well, you haven't seen anything quite like this,

524
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Speaker 2: but you've seen what drama if you let it become

525
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Speaker 2: that at the quarterback position sometimes does to a locker room,

526
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Speaker 2: which is the ultimate test of your culture, because I

527
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Speaker 2: believe in Ohio State's culture. So I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: you my personal thought here is I believe that they're

529
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Speaker 2: going to be able to weather that and withstand that.

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Speaker 2: And it's going to be a lot of noise. But

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Speaker 2: the thing about Ryan Day and the culture they've built

532
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Speaker 2: up there is you can quiet the noise with culture,

533
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Speaker 2: not outside, but what people are saying outside doesn't matter internally. Again,

534
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Speaker 2: if you have the culture to quiet the noise, now I.

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Speaker 1: Think they have that. But again we're playing hypotheticals here.

536
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Speaker 1: What could trip them up?

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Speaker 2: So then once you think about that, you look at

538
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Speaker 2: the schedule and realize, oh, they're not opening with two

539
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Speaker 2: directional schools. They're going to Minnesota on a Thursday night

540
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Speaker 2: to open the year, and then they're coming home to

541
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Speaker 2: play Oregon. Make no mistake about it, those are two

542
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Speaker 2: losable games. Now, how would they trip up? Well, I

543
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Speaker 2: think the way they trip up against Minnesota is very simple.

544
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Speaker 2: They're taking a whole lot of young guys, ultra talented,

545
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Speaker 2: but young guys on the road. Let's just say for

546
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Speaker 2: the sake of argument, and I believe it will be CJ.

547
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Speaker 2: Stroud Starting at Minnesota and that place we assume full

548
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Speaker 2: or close to full. None of those dudes, none of

549
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Speaker 2: these young guys, first or second year guys, have played

550
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Speaker 2: in any kind of environment like that or even close

551
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Speaker 2: to that. So you got your normal early season on

552
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Speaker 2: the road, jitterous kind of issues for your young guys,

553
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Speaker 2: and you're leaning on a lot of them at the

554
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Speaker 2: most functional portions of your team, the most hinged portions

555
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Speaker 2: of your team. Quarterback Trayon Henderson if he's playing running

556
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Speaker 2: back for you.

557
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Speaker 1: And so there's that.

558
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Speaker 2: But then also if you look up and down Minnesota's roster,

559
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Speaker 2: they got a lot of older guys. Quarterback comes back.

560
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Speaker 2: They got the whole offense coming back, essentially, I think

561
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Speaker 2: one receiver. Other than that, they got the whole offense

562
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Speaker 2: coming back, and they got a big offensive line, and

563
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Speaker 2: they got a really really good running back, one of

564
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Speaker 2: the best players on their team. And what that could

565
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Speaker 2: do to you is, especially if they pop you for

566
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Speaker 2: a couple of turnovers early and they jump up on

567
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Speaker 2: you, you know they're leading you ten to nothing, even though

568
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Speaker 2: they've put up twenty five yards of total offense. It's

569
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Speaker 2: the kind of offense that can shave a couple of

570
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Speaker 2: possessions off the end of the game with their ability

571
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Speaker 2: to control clock. That's the way they could trip up

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Speaker 2: now Oregon on their own merit is a good enough

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Speaker 2: team to match up in week two, a little bit

574
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Speaker 2: better passing game probably from Morgan, But that's how Ohio

575
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Speaker 2: State would trip up. Now with Clemson, I think it's

576
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Speaker 2: a lot more self explanatory because if you look at

577
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Speaker 2: Clemson schedule, we're talking about Georgia. Maybe we're talking about

578
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Speaker 2: at NC State in what is it week four. I mean,

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Speaker 2: all due respect to.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina State, I don't expect a big pushback from them.

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Speaker 1: And listen to Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 2: We're fans of Georgia Tech here, but it would be

583
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Speaker 2: a surprise if Jeff Collins and company were able to

584
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Speaker 2: go into Death Valley and win that game.

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Speaker 1: In week three.

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Speaker 2: But it's not hard for me to envision Georgia pulling

587
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Speaker 2: the outright upset over Clumbs and even though the Tigers

588
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Speaker 2: should be favored and are favored to start the season

589
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Speaker 2: in that game, think it sits around.

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Speaker 1: Four right now.

591
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Speaker 2: But again, there is a tendency when we do these breakdowns,

592
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Speaker 2: especially for week one, because people have too much time

593
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Speaker 2: on their hands. There is a tendency to go offensive

594
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Speaker 2: line versus offensive line, wide receiver versus wide receiver, which

595
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Speaker 2: is always ludicrous because the units are never on the

596
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Speaker 2: field at.

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Speaker 1: The same time.

598
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Speaker 2: But even if you do the wide receivers versus dB,

599
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Speaker 2: offensive line versus defensive line, football comes down to a

600
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Speaker 2: couple of bounces of the ball, and it also comes

601
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Speaker 2: down to a few inches, and then it comes down

602
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Speaker 2: to probably a few ISO matchups more so than anything.

603
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Speaker 2: And when you look at Georgia and what they're going

604
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Speaker 2: to try it out there on their defensive line, it

605
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Speaker 2: really just their front in general, and you look at

606
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Speaker 2: what you would call, relatively speaking, the weink link of

607
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Speaker 2: Clemson's team, it reminds me a lot of what happened

608
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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. Let me stress, because of what

609
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Speaker 2: are we about ten minutes into the segment. This is

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Speaker 2: not a prediction, purely hypothetic, but remember when you were

611
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Speaker 2: if you remember the Super Bowl, you're watching the Bucks

612
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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. Kansas City's favored in the game, and

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Speaker 2: yet it becomes apparent very early on there's just a

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Speaker 2: glaring mismatch up front, and Kansas City's offensive line is

615
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Speaker 2: a sieve and they cannot handle what Tampa's bringing. Final

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Speaker 2: score is thirty one to nine, and it's just not

617
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Speaker 2: competitive at the end of the day. And very early on,

618
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes realizes that and everything's out of whack, everything's

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Speaker 2: out of sync. And Mahomes is at this point as

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Speaker 2: a veteran, well, I look at dj ou ay Anglo La.

621
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Speaker 2: I got all the confidence in the world in that guy.

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Speaker 2: I look at pretty much every other facet of Clemson's team,

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Speaker 2: and I've got all the confidence in the ceiling potential

624
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Speaker 2: of those units. The offensive line, that's the area. And

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Speaker 2: it really doesn't take a five on five mismatch. It

626
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Speaker 2: takes your center and or your right guard being a

627
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Speaker 2: little vulnerable. And you look at the small houses that

628
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Speaker 2: Georgia has on the interior of their defensive line. If

629
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Speaker 2: they break that stuff down, if they're able to collapse

630
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Speaker 2: their pocket internally, I'll tell you what really takes away

631
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Speaker 2: the mystery of is how Clemson will go about attacking

632
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Speaker 2: them to start the game. Watch how many quick perimeter

633
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Speaker 2: passes Clemson runs. Watch how many quick screens or bubbles

634
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Speaker 2: that they run to start that game. A lot like

635
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Speaker 2: Auburn did to attack Bama. A couple of years ago

636
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Speaker 2: when they beat him in Jordan. Here, if you know

637
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: you've got a mismatch there, got to attack him on

638
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Speaker 2: the perimeter because that coincides with what will probably be

639
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Speaker 2: a matchup advantage that Clemson has over Georgia. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's just some fun hypothetical stuff. Obviously, when game week

641
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: gets here, we'll be breaking down all those But it

642
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Speaker 2: is the week for Fall Camp to start.

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Speaker 1: Do you realize this? Where are you right now?

644
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Speaker 2: If you're a Michigan State fan or an Arizona fan

645
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: or an Alabama fan. Hey, fall camp is about to

646
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Speaker 2: start this week. And so here's what we do. When

647
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Speaker 2: we get into fall Camp. We do whispers and intel,

648
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Speaker 2: And essentially what that means is I get on the

649
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Speaker 2: eye Josh until the battery dies, and I hit up

650
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: all of our insiders from our various teams and networks

651
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: across the country, and we just gather as much juice

652
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Speaker 2: and intel and dirt as we can and weckage it

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Speaker 2: all up into one segment. That's what you'll get on

654
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Speaker 2: the show. Every show we do in August except for

655
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: this one because camp hasn't started. So what I did

656
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: want to do is I did still reach out to

657
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: some people, and I'm going to echo some of the

658
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: sentiment that they shared with me. Fall camp opening this week, though,

659
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: what are we watching? Well, first thing I want to

660
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: do is I'm going to start in the state of

661
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: Florida and let's go with the Big Three. This is

662
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: no knock on UCF, but we're talking power five here.

663
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: The Big three in Florida. Whether it's the Gators, whether

664
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: it's the Canes, whether.

665
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: It's the Noles.

666
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: The quarterback spots with all these teams bear close watching.

667
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: Don't care if you're a fan of them or not.

668
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Think about where we are here because all of these

669
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: are going to set set certain parameters for these division races.

670
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: With Florida State, Mackenzie Milton is a guy we talked

671
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: about a lot in the spring. We'll be talking about

672
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: him a lot in fall camp. Mackenzie Milton and this

673
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: entire quarterback situation at Florida State because Jordan Travis has

674
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: been there.

675
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis is a guy he made for all I know.

676
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: We may get the first team reps when they open camp,

677
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: but McKenzie Millerlon's ultimately the guy that we have chosen

678
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: to bet on on this show. Now that assumes the

679
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: health of that need, and it assumed it in spring,

680
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: but in spring it was a little bit different ballgame. Obviously,

681
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: then you get into more live bullets action in the fall.

682
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: This is where that whole hundred percent moniker really gets tested.

683
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: You can be telling me you're one hundred percent Spring

684
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: all you want to, or that you will become Fall

685
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: all you want to.

686
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: This is where it matters.

687
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: That's going to be something to check on every single

688
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: day because who starts number one in fall camp may

689
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: not be the guy ultimately taking the snaps when they

690
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: open against Notre Dame in Week one in Gainesville. It's

691
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: not a great mystery who's going to start at quarterback

692
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: for Florida. The great mystery is how effective he's going

693
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: to be. Emrie Jones is obviously going to be starting

694
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: quarterback for Florida. This is such a golden opportunity because

695
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: it's that rare situation where you are quarterbacking a team

696
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: that's coming off a division championship, they went to a

697
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: New Year six Bowl game, and yet not a lot

698
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: is expected of them on the national scene. And by

699
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: the way, you're not a true freshman, which is an

700
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: important thing to remember. With Emery Jones, you would quate

701
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: first year starter to really really young guy most of

702
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: the time. And if you listen to Dan Mullen when

703
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: he was doing his rounds at SEC Media Days the

704
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: other day, he made a point. I mean, it's really smart,

705
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: but it's really basic. He said, you know, this guy

706
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: has played so much so that if you were to

707
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: just look at his stat sheet, you would think he's

708
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: a multi year starter because they've put him in games

709
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: even when the other quarterback is healthy. But one thing

710
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: Mullin brought up that I had forgotten, to be honest

711
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: with you, until he brought it up, was two years ago.

712
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: I was on the field down in Gainsville for this game.

713
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: They had Auburn in there, and they beat Auburn. But

714
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: it was early to midway through the first half. A

715
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: man who's starting a quarterback for him? Was it Frank's

716
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: I think it may have been Franks. Anyway, whoever was

717
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: a quarterback form at the time, Trask or Franks goes

718
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: down and it looks bad. I mean, I'm standing right there.

719
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: I can hear the screens. It's one of the worst

720
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: things you can hear when you're on the field, and

721
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: so I think that Florida has just lost their starting

722
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: quarterback for the season, and so I'm focused on starter

723
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: walking off field into tunnel. I'm checking the phone, I'm

724
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: trying to get updates from people watching at home, and meanwhile,

725
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Emery Jones is just leading them down the field. And

726
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: eventually you find out, well, you're starting quarterbacks is not

727
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: going to be lost for the year.

728
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: But that's something you tuck away. And Dan Mullen mentioned

729
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: it the other day.

730
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: He said, you know, we kind of we never forgot

731
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: that when we put him in with no advanced notice.

732
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: He ran the offense like he was a starting quarterback

733
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: and he's been ready to do it for a while. Well,

734
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: if all that's true, and if Emery Jones plays to

735
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: the level that they believe he's capable of playing, to

736
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: Florida becomes competitive in every game they play.

737
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: I know, you don't expect them to beat.

738
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: Alabama, and let's even if you want to play Devil's

739
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: advocant and chalk that one up as a loss.

740
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: They go to LSU.

741
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: If Emery Jones is playing at a high level as

742
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: a quarterback, they can beat LSU.

743
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: They can compete with them. They can beat Georgia, they

744
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: can compete with them. So if they can do that,

745
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: they can compete for the Eastern Division. That's what I'm saying.

746
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: And in Miami, Dearck King is another one of these

747
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: cases where you've been told, and I've been told, for

748
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: a majority of spring and summer he will be one

749
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Now, those numbers, again, they don't mean anything

750
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: in spring. But when you hear Derek King will be

751
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, this is when I need it to

752
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: be true. They open against Alabama. We've talked about the

753
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: opening half of the season for Miami. They're gonna play Bama,

754
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: and then for your national purposes, they're gonna kind of

755
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: disappear off the radar maybe and then re emerge in

756
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: I think it's Week five or six against North Carolina

757
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: and that's probably where you'll see them again. But they

758
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: got a shot to do something here now. They were

759
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: a lot better than I think a lot of you

760
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: remember in terms of passing efficiency last year and they've

761
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: got a chance to upgrade that again this year. Again,

762
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: if you've got to help thee Dearrek King, and if

763
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: they can do everything that they want to do with

764
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: him running the full offense is the name of the game.

765
00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: Here.

766
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: Doubt he can stand in the pocket and deliver the ball.

767
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: What you see him doing if you're watching on YouTube

768
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: right now, that is an integral part of his game

769
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: and an integral part of what they need him to do,

770
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: that being running. But I'm also looking at the rest

771
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: of their quarterback depth. You got a guy in Jake

772
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: Garcia there obviously big name, and then you've also got

773
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: Tyler van Dijk. And this is another situation where the

774
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: guy who's taken the number two reps may in all

775
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: likelyho will not likelihood may possibly not end up being

776
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: the guy who is your true number two this year.

777
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of shuffling that I think still

778
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: is left to go on there. I also want to

779
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 2: talk about the Alabama running back group because we can't

780
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: just focus on quarterbacks all day. Bama's got a new quarterback,

781
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: but we all know who's starting there. But the Alabama

782
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: running back group I think will be emphasized more in

783
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: general this year.

784
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: You watch Naja.

785
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: Harris walk out the door, but they're still so loaded.

786
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: They're so loaded that Keelan Robinson, who I think would

787
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: start for ninety percent of America saw fit to transfer

788
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: to Texas, and with him out the door and out

789
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: the door, you've still got Brian Robinson there, and then

790
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: you got Trey Sanders there, and then you got Jason

791
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: McClellan there, and then you got Roydl Williams there, and

792
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: so I didn't even mention Kamara Wheaton, who's a five

793
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: star running back coming in this class. So they're so

794
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: overly abundantly loaded at running back, but that doesn't mean

795
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: that they just have the piece to fill the shoes

796
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: of Naja Harris.

797
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: So two things to watch here.

798
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Number One, I think the running back position is going

799
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: to be a lot more involved early in the season,

800
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: or at least leaned on and depended on a lot

801
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: more early in the season. The ball security issue always

802
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: a situation you watch.

803
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: With young guys.

804
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: And then we've talked about the replacements on the offensive line.

805
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Knew everything on offense.

806
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: But the thing that Najia Harris used to set himself apart,

807
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: and he's not shy about telling you about it, is

808
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: his ability as a pass catcher, his ability out of

809
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: the backfield. And it didn't matter if he got the

810
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: ball in his hands every play. Defensive coordinators knew going

811
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: into a game against Alabama we have to account for

812
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: him in the passing game.

813
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: This is why, with.

814
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: All due respect to Brian Robbins, the efficiency needed at

815
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: running back for Alabama in the passing game. I think

816
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: Jace McClelland stands to burst on the scene nationally this

817
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: year about as much as any player on any one

818
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: of these contending teams. I loved the guy out of

819
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: high school. Anytime he was on the field last year,

820
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: he was impressive. I think he is the most complete

821
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: package kind of guy that Alabama has at running back

822
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: right now. Brian Robinson is a phenomenal talent. He's paid

823
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: his dues, he earned the ability and the right to

824
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: be listed with the ones there, and I assume will

825
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: be when fall camp opens. But Jace McClellan Roydell Williams

826
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: is another good one. I'm very interested to see what

827
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: Tray Sanders has. He was on track to do a

828
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: lot of good things before he got injured and was

829
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: out for a year. But Jace McClelland's the named the

830
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: circle there stay at the running back position. But let's

831
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: go up the road to Chapel Hill, North Carolina. I

832
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: bet many of you who have watched all spring and

833
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: summer can probably guess where I'm going here. Ty Chandler

834
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: used to play at Tennessee. He doesn't anymore. Ty Chandler

835
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: has landed in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. There's a lot

836
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: of assumption that's probably made at this point about North Carolina.

837
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: They're in many people's preseason top ten, most people's preseason

838
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: top fifteen, and so you assume, unless you've done a

839
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 2: deep dive on the team, you may look at North

840
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: Carolina and you may assume, well, offense.

841
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: Is what it is there they can just autopilot that thing.

842
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: Defense is really what could make or break them this year.

843
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not arguing with you. Obviously defense will make

844
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: or break a lot of teams. But don't just assume

845
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: things about their offense. You know Sam Howell's name. How

846
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: many other names do you know on that offense if

847
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: you're not a Tar Hill fan? And so the names

848
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: that you did know last year, Javonte Williams, Michael Carter,

849
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: two studs in the backfield, both depart now. They're talking

850
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: about this NonStop at North Carolina, but nationally, I don't

851
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: think as many people are really aware of this right now.

852
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: Ty Chandler has a golden opportunity here.

853
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: Ty Chandler could make as big a splash out of

854
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: the transfer portal as any player in America because he

855
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: is being at to be a bellcal workhorse running back

856
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: in an offense. He's built for it physically. I think

857
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: he can stand up to it. But also I don't

858
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: say this very often, but this is their most important

859
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: hinge player outside of quarterback.

860
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: This is a hinge player for them.

861
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: North Carolina cannot fulfill their immense potential and the ability

862
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: to contend for a division title if you don't get

863
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: what you are planning to get out of ty Chandler.

864
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: That's how important he is offensively for them. They're replacing

865
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver talent. I think they can do that, but man,

866
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: they got to get a full, healthy, productive year out

867
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: of him, and I think they will if he stays healthy.

868
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a doubt about the production.

869
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: But I think it's a name that a lot more

870
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: people are going to come to realize as a big,

871
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: big player in the ACC this year when the season starts.

872
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: And then how about this one the Tennessee quarterback room.

873
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: If you want to bet on some position groups. There

874
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: is a lot of virtual even money in the Tennessee

875
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: quarterback room right now. I understand not a lot of

876
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: you have been following Tennessee this spring, okay, but here's

877
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: some numbers for you. They had twenty nine players enter

878
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: the portal twenty nine one period.

879
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: Almost said the O word.

880
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: They themselves picked up ten Power five transfers. So you

881
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: better study your depth chart and roster early and often.

882
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: In Knoxville this year.

883
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: It is a four man battle at quarterback for Tennessee

884
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: right now, and that is with Salter exiting, and that's

885
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: with Jared Garantino exiting.

886
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: They would have had half a dozen otherwise.

887
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: So they got four guys up there, and this is

888
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: a rare situation where there are four names in a

889
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: quarterback battle and you could paint a realistic picture for

890
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: any one of them winning the job. Who are we

891
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: talking about here. We're talking about Harrison Bailey, We're talking

892
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: about Brian Mauer. Those are names that you've known up

893
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: there for a while. Hendon Hooker comes in by way

894
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: of Virginia Tech, and Joe Milton comes in by way

895
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: of Michigan. Now, the smart money amongst Tennessee fans right

896
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: now makes this a Harrison Bailey versus Joe Milton battle.

897
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: Milton was not on campus in the spring. He was

898
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: at Michigan. He transferred in the summer. And so think

899
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: about that. Say it out loud. The smart money is

900
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: potentially on a guy that has not taken an organized

901
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: snap with this team yet doesn't always spell disaster. It's

902
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: certainly not the most ideal situation to be in. But

903
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: if I were to take a straw poll of Tennessee

904
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: fans now to be close, but you'd have a sixty

905
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: to forty potentially of people thinking Joe Milton is going

906
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: to be the guy who wins this job. Now, here's

907
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: the funny thing I'm watching because I am not at

908
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: all there yet.

909
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I would still I would.

910
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: Still slightly lean Harrison Bailey, but I mean fifty one

911
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: to forty nine, that's what I mean by slight. The

912
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: reason I haven't given up at all on Harrison Bailey

913
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: is because I know that he was in prison last year,

914
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: not literally, but playing on the offensive side of the

915
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: ball for Tennessee last year was its own kind of

916
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: football prison.

917
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: And so Joe Milton played at.

918
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: Michigan, who was not light in the world on fire,

919
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: but they at least showed his arm, talent and his

920
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: cape ability at Tennessee. You really didn't get to see

921
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: a whole lot of that with Harrison Bailey. And I

922
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: think a lot of benefit of the doubt is being

923
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: given to Joe Milton and a lot of people are thinking, boy,

924
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: if he could do that at Michigan, imagine what he

925
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: can do under Josh Hypel. And the same benefit of

926
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: the doubt is not always being given to Harrison Bailey.

927
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: We remember what the scouting report was on him coming

928
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: out of high school. We remember hearing good things about

929
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: him in camp. We didn't see anything from him under

930
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: a Jeremy Pruitt Jim Cheney regime. Who have we seen

931
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: a lot from under those two, at least offensively, And

932
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: so I give the same benefit of the doubt to

933
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Harrison Bailey. I know he's got skill, i know he's

934
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: got potential, So I'm not writing him off, and really

935
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm not writing off the other two either. But those

936
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: are some things to watch in fall camp.

937
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: That is a very surface level view of the deep

938
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: dive and a lot more meat on the bone type

939
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: tangible information will have when it comes time for camps

940
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: to open. Okay, let me stretch, Let me get comfortable,

941
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: because where we're about to.

942
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: Take the show, we've never taken it before. I got

943
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: a cramp my leg now hip flex or colin the worst.

944
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: So Michigan football has not been talked about the whole show.

945
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: I have not talked about Michigan at length for the

946
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: better part of a month.

947
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: That was a promise to a buddy. The moratorium is over.

948
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: Eventually the season was going to get here, and eventually

949
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: we were going to have to talk about Michigan. I

950
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: was thinking the other day as I was watching the

951
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: movie Twister, which is, for my money, one of the

952
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: greatest pieces of American cinema ever creating.

953
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: But then I had it in the back of my

954
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: mind and I was working on some.

955
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: Michigan stuff the other day, and it came to me

956
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: that Jim Harbaugh has been living out the plot to

957
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: Twister for his entire tenure at Michigan. If you remember

958
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: Bill Paxon and Twister, and you remember that story arc,

959
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: you need only apply it to Jim Harbaugh at Michigan,

960
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: and you realize these are the same people one's real,

961
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: one's a character.

962
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: But these are the same people.

963
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: And if you have never seen Twister, shame on you

964
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: do yourself a favor. If you have seen Twister, I

965
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: want you to sit back for a second wherever you are,

966
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: if you're driving around, don't close your eyes, but take

967
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: yourself with me on a little journey for the next

968
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: few minutes.

969
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: And I want you to think.

970
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: About how uncanny the parallels are between Bill Paxton and

971
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: Twister and Jim Harbaugh real life uncle Jim at the

972
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: University of Michigan. And this story does not have a

973
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: conclusion to it. You know how Twister ends. We don't

974
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: know how the Michigan story ends. First point, do you

975
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: remember at the beginning of Twister, Bill returns. He's gone

976
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: off to be a weather man. He's left the storm

977
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: chasing in his rearview mirror. But he's back. He returns

978
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: to the chase life. He's got Dorothy on the back

979
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: of the truck. They're going to try and get her

980
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: up in a tornado so that they can learn a

981
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 2: lot more.

982
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: About atmospheric science. Will learn more than ten seconds that

983
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: we have in the past thirty years, was his line.

984
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Everyone was happy and overjoyed. Everyone viewed that as a

985
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: fresh start. I remember where I was when I heard

986
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: about Jim Harbaugh being hired at Michigan. I remember making

987
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: such foolish statements as Urban Meyer, boy, he's about to

988
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: hear footsteps really quick. I even equated it, friends, believe

989
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: it or not, I'm man enough to admit it. I

990
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: even equated Jim Harbaugh entering the Big Ten via Michigan

991
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: to Nick Saban entering the SEC via Alabama as it

992
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: related to Urban Meyer. I thought Jim Harbaugh was gonna

993
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: have that kind of impact at Michigan. Well, there is

994
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: no need to do the spoiler alert here. We have

995
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: seen him so far go winless against Ohio State. But

996
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: that's only one chapter. That's only the very beginning. Everything's bright,

997
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: everything's rosy. It is sunshine and rainbows right now.

998
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: And then we.

999
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: Start to get a little bit into the movie and

1000
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Bill starts to flex. He wants to show he's not rusty,

1001
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: and so they get in their first tornado chase of

1002
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: the day, very rare day where you get like half

1003
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: a dozen tornadoes out there near Wikita, Oklahoma, and so

1004
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: he grabs Helen Hunt's seat belt, says fasten your seat

1005
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: belt and he takes him off road. Now, granted, this

1006
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: is only an F one, but f ones can still

1007
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: do damage if you're in the wrong place at the

1008
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: wrong time. Jim Harbaugh flexed too, just like Bill Paxton

1009
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: did to start this movie.

1010
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh flexed.

1011
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: I was in Columbus, Georgia when Jim Harbaugh went on

1012
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: his satellite campaign, his satellite camp campaign. To put a

1013
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: finer point on it there, I am in the newsroom

1014
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: one day and Jim Harbaugh is doing a satellite camp

1015
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: in nearby Prattville, Alabama's just north of Montgomery, and oh man,

1016
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: all the Southern folks were up in arms. I mean

1017
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: they were grade A triggered by this. And then Harbaugh

1018
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: shows up on your local news shirtless, running around in khakis.

1019
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: It's ninety five degrees in Prattville in the summer at least,

1020
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: and he's running around shirtless and khakis over there, playing

1021
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: some kind of bastardized version of football. I'm not quite

1022
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: sure what they were doing, but everyone has been out

1023
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: of shape, and Jim Harball was flexing. And there were

1024
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: some people that were misguided enough to believe that the

1025
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: University of Michigan was about to fundamentally change recruiting in

1026
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: the South because Jim Harball ran around with Saggie Nipple

1027
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: in Prattville, Alabama, for the better part of an afternoon.

1028
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: Again a spoiler, it.

1029
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: Didn't quite work out that way, although Michigan has made

1030
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of noise. Nico Collins, for example, from

1031
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: Clay Chalk, Well, that's a big time receiver talent that

1032
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: they ended up pulling.

1033
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: So it was not without merit.

1034
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: They ended up putting the cabash on it, but it

1035
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: wasn't without merit. We continue to chapter three because here

1036
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: come the clouds a little bit. As the story develops, Bill,

1037
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: back on the storm chasing scene, is reintroduced to his

1038
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: old nemesis, his old foe, Jonas Jonas Miller.

1039
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: He's a night crawler.

1040
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: They all started out together, but then Jonas went out

1041
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: and got himself some corporate sponsors.

1042
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: Remember why, because he was in it for the money,

1043
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: not the science.

1044
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: It sounds about like some of you trying to expand

1045
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: these conferences. By the way, well, how does this parallel

1046
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. Well, Jim Harbaugh ran up against his old

1047
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: nemesis too, just as Bill Paxton was reintroduced to Jonas

1048
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Miller the night Crawler.

1049
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: There. We also had Jim Harbaugh get right back in

1050
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: the middle of that Ohio state rivalry.

1051
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: You have to being checked out for a while, and

1052
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: it hurt, and they got their nose bloody and they

1053
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: were competitive, but they still came out on the wrong end.

1054
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 2: And so early on we start to see a little

1055
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 2: up and a little down. We got a little ebb

1056
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: and a little flow. It's not supposed to be easy.

1057
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: We understand that. Okay, it's early, it's still fine. We're

1058
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: still very early on in the tenure. And once we

1059
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: get Michigan built the way that Jim Harball can build Michigan,

1060
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: and we've got everything under his thumbprint, it's going to

1061
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: be okay. It's a long game. Believe in the process

1062
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: will eventually bypass them. And so what we need is

1063
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: we need the reset right And so one of the

1064
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: most beautifully constructed scenes in Twister or any movie is

1065
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: the time out they take when they go to Aunt

1066
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: Meg's house. And if you've ever watched a Ronco Grill

1067
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: infomercial late at night, and you just watch them do

1068
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: the set it and forget it, and then they pull

1069
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: the finished product out of the oven and you just salivate.

1070
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: Then you go to Crystal cause it's two am and

1071
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: there's nowhere else to go. That's what it was like

1072
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: watching those steak and eggs and mashed potatoes and Meg's

1073
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: gravy is its own food group. According to the late

1074
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: Philip Seymore Hoffman, that scene was great, mouth watering and

1075
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: it was a reset. You got some bad tornado experience

1076
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: early in the day. That's cool. Sometimes you just got

1077
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: a reset. Well what Jim Harball do to reset? Well,

1078
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: he took his team to Rome. They just packed up

1079
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: over the course of a spring and they said spring football.

1080
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: So yesterday, no, no, no, no, no, We're going to Rome.

1081
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: We got a donor up here, that's willing fifth Bill.

1082
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it was like seven or eight hundred thousand dollars.

1083
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: That's even more than Column makes. And they go to

1084
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 2: Rome and a lot of people were up in arms

1085
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Speaker 2: about it. I don't know why, but they were doing

1086
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: something different. It was the great Michigan football reset. We're

1087
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: going to brand ourselves. We're a national brand, and we're

1088
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: going to show you even maybe we can be an

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00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: international brand. So while Bill Paxton enjoyed Meg's famous gravy.

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00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh just went to Rome and took his entire

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00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: team with him. So this is where it really gets

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00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: good because there is some drama that eventually arises, and

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00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: it's domestic drama.

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00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: It's the worst kind of drama. It gets really tough

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00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: because they got to leave at Meg's house early because

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00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: they got one F two F three. They got to

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Speaker 1: get on the road. It's going to be hilly terrain

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00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: and it's a jumper and it's tough, and they can't

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Speaker 1: get Dorothy up in the funnel.

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Speaker 2: But something worse happens. There is a very dramatic and

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00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: very raw scene between Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt right

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00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: there as the sensors roll down the hill and the

1103
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: pack is wasted, and for the first time we realize

1104
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: there is trouble in Paradise and there's a lot more

1105
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: going on here than just trying to chase tornadoes. That

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00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: domestic squabble, that's the worst kind of squabble. And let

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00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: me tell you what the worst kind of drama is

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00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: for the University of Michigan. It's getting beat by Michigan State,

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00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: and it's getting beat by Michigan State a couple of

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00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: times in a couple of years. And I remember vividly,

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00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: not the oh we had trouble with the snap game.

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00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a couple of years later, one or

1113
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: two years later, when they lost fourteen to ten. Helen

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Speaker 2: Hunt and Bill Paxton are standing there in the middle

1115
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Speaker 2: of a downpour, so was Michigan John o'corn at the

1116
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: helm under center.

1117
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: And they turned it over not one, not two, not three, not.

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Speaker 2: Four, but five times in a monsoon the likes of

1119
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: which the Amazon rainforest would be bashful at watching. And

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Speaker 2: they lost to Michigan State in ann Arbor fourteen to ten.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, they proceeded to go four and six

1122
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: over their next ten games starting that day, and that

1123
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: spanned over the Bowl game and then into the next season.

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00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: And that's really where things got uncomfortable. And if you

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Speaker 2: want to pinpoint it now, there are a lot of

1126
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: different areas you can pinpoint, but that's where people really

1127
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: started to sour to a much larger degree than they

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00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: had previously on Jim Harbaugh. And so you know how

1129
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: the next couple of years go, and we understand that

1130
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: eventually you're trying to get to a conclusion here one

1131
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: way or the other.

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00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: If you're a college football fan, I mean, if it's

1133
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna work out, great, If it's not gonna work out.

1134
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: Show me something definitively. And boy, this is where we

1135
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: crescendo because it's time, and it's finally time.

1136
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: We only got one Dorothy left.

1137
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 2: And Bill Paxton looks at Helen Hunt and he says,

1138
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: we got.

1139
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: To make it happen. This is it last time.

1140
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: And they go chase down that F five and they

1141
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: cut up the pepsi cans and they weigh the pack

1142
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: and then one of them gets wasted, and then he

1143
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: loads it in the back of the truck, drives the

1144
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: truck into the F five. Dorothy's flying, but we may

1145
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: be two because as e F five tornadoes tend to do,

1146
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: it takes a jarring right turn and heads right for him.

1147
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: So what do they do.

1148
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: Well, they find some random pipes that go down about

1149
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: thirty feet and they anchor to him, because if you

1150
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: do that, you might have a chance.

1151
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: And that's where they are. Now here's the good part.

1152
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: They survive and all's well that ends well.

1153
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: And not only do they win by surviving, they also

1154
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: make Dorothy fly and it changes atmospheric science forever and

1155
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: right now.

1156
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: That's where Jim Harball is. I mean that man stood

1157
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: on the podium last week and set an I quote,

1158
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat Ohio State or we're gonna die trying.

1159
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: And so they are absolutely at Michigan right now.

1160
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: In the final scene of Twister, it was a happy

1161
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: ending there, but they just came off a two and

1162
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: four season at Michigan. Everything was sort of restructured to

1163
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: send a very loud message this past summer, in this

1164
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 2: past spring, and remember the whole contract drama, to say,

1165
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: we're keeping you here, but there is no long rope.

1166
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: We're not extending anything, We're not cementing ourselves into anything.

1167
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: You've got to get it done this year. Now. At least,

1168
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: the good news is everyone gets it.

1169
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: The fans get it. I think the coaching staff gets it.

1170
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure. You get paid a lot

1171
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: of money. It's a privilege to coach under that pressure.

1172
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: But that's where they are now.

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00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 1: I hope for the sake of Michigan fans that things

1174
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: turn out happy. But you got to go through that

1175
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: tornado to do it. You got to go through the

1176
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: Big ten to do it. You're gonna be an underdog

1177
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: and gets Washington.

1178
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna be an underdog a few times this year

1179
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: before you even play Ohio State. And there are several

1180
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: critical factors that have to fall into place here.

1181
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks got to get worked out.

1182
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: Hopefully jjm carthy gets to show you what he can

1183
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: do eventually.

1184
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: But it's not just a quarterback thing. They got to

1185
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: get a lot faster.

1186
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: They got to leverage the speed, the perimeter speed a

1187
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: wide receiver they have, They've got to do it. I

1188
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: felt and still do feel like Josh Gaddis may have

1189
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: been the right button to push bringing in as an

1190
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, but he's not walking into Alabama.

1191
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: He came from Bama. You walk into.

1192
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: Michigan, you don't have four eventual first rounders just chilling

1193
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: in your wide receiver room. That's a little bit different world.

1194
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: You walk into Michigan, you got to go find them yourself,

1195
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: and then in Xavier Worthies case, you got to make

1196
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: sure that they're on campus when you start the season.

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Speaker 2: So worthy or not worthy, Michigan's got enough horses to compete.

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00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: They got to do more than compete, because you're not

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Speaker 2: paying the guy what you're paying him to compete, and

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00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: you don't want to just compete if you're Michigan. So

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there watching Twister the other day and I realize,

1202
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Speaker 2: my goodness, might I already know how things work out

1203
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: for Jim Harbaugh and Michigan. One final reminder, by the way,

1204
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Speaker 2: if you have never listened to Twister soundtrack, that alone would.

1205
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Speaker 1: Convince you to watch the movie.

1206
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1207
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1208
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