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<v Speaker 1>What's up, party people? Straight Fire with McIntyre. Yes, it's Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>February third, super Bowl in chin Closure. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it's taken forever to get here. We uh, we got,

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<v Speaker 1>we got until Sunday. We will get another super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a fun one. Guys are gonna love this

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl prop bet. Um, you know, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>start the podcast today with kind of a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a hot take that I don't know if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go over well, But I'm texting with Rob g you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got these ideas and he says stuff, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, listen, I'm just gonna go here, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it out there because I firmly believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent probably on Tuesday a good ninety minutes breaking

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<v Speaker 1>this down, and it has to do with Pat Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>and all time quarterbacks. And we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>that shortly, but you're gonna have to wait for ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seconds because I've got to talk about this story that

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in the Las Vegas Journal Review late on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw it, the chatter that

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr could be shocked by the Raiders. They in

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<v Speaker 1>turn flip him for two first round picks, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they package that with their own first round and their

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<v Speaker 1>next first round pick, and they say, hey, Houston, here's

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<v Speaker 1>four first round picks. Give us to Shawn Watson. And

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<v Speaker 1>I read this, and you know that mind blowing emoji

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<v Speaker 1>where the head is exploding, I'm like, whoa hold on what?

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<v Speaker 1>Step at a time, Derek Carr is suddenly worth two

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks on what planet? Like? Derek Carr's a

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterback. He was excellent last year, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was phenomenal. It's got one of the best tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends in the league. Very good running black back and

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<v Speaker 1>elite offensive line. Um, you know Henry Ruggs emerging. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Raiders and I like Derek Carr, but

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<v Speaker 1>two first round picks. And so what's interesting is then

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<v Speaker 1>Calherd calls me after I tweet about this on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you know, I think there's something to this,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr, Um, you trade and getting Watson to the

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas And I'm like, well, here's what I don't get.

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<v Speaker 1>What team is giving up two first round picks for Car?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm gonna ask you this. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and you somehow get two first round picks for

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<v Speaker 1>Car and you go to Houston and say, here's four

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<v Speaker 1>first give me Watson, I need to say time out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me look at those first round picks because if

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<v Speaker 1>they ain't in the top ten, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm telling you guys right now, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>look at the history if you go ahead and package

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<v Speaker 1>let's say twelve, seventeen, twenty one, and seven. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing out four numbers that are not in the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten because I don't know anybody in the top ten

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<v Speaker 1>who's giving that up for Derek Carr. Sorry, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being told Sam Donald is maybe worth a two, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Cars better than Donald, it's quite a leap to say

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Cars wars two two first round picks. It's quite elae.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Carr is not in the same class as Matt Stafford. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and remember the Golf Stafford deal was unique because of

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<v Speaker 1>the golf contract. That's why there were so many first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks involved. But Derek Carr is not worth two first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. And you know, going to Houston with twelve, seventeen, one,

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty seven or whatever, I don't know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a slam dunk quarterback at any of those positions.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why the Jets and the Dolphins are in

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<v Speaker 1>the driver's seat. The Jets at two, you say, here

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<v Speaker 1>you go, you're not getting Trevor Lawrence, but you've got

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<v Speaker 1>your pick of the Litterally, you like Justin Fields, you

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<v Speaker 1>like Zack Wilson. Now you don't like any of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get the best defensive player on the board,

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<v Speaker 1>or you get the best left tackle to build around.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I know they have Lara b. Tunsil Um. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to draft a right Tack or then you

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<v Speaker 1>trade two to somebody who wants who really Covets Fields

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<v Speaker 1>or Zack Wilson or out of that nobody wants Mac

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<v Speaker 1>Jones ATWO. But I'm saying if Houston is so far

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<v Speaker 1>away they have no defensive players, they then can have

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<v Speaker 1>room to negotiate with the number two pick. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot if you've got four first round

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<v Speaker 1>picks in the next two years that aren't in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten, none of them are. It just there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not buying that. I'm not buying Derek Carr's first

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<v Speaker 1>worth two first round picks, and um, I personally don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Houston bites. Listen, we will have a guest on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast tomorrow who is going to help us get

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of this. That's your teeth all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I batting around some ideas. I said, all right, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the ten best quarterbacks of the modern era. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm not going back to bart Star. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Uniteds phenomenal career, amazing player. I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the nineteen fifties. Okay, I'm just not

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. Johnny United is awesome quarterback, like nineteen sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going there? Really? Otto Graham? Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hear? Otto grahams one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in the NFL history, like in his prime, in

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<v Speaker 1>his time, he was amazing. But uh, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>putting those guys in the modern era. I mean, United

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<v Speaker 1>kind of skirts it because he he won in sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four and sixty seven. Um, it really depends where you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make the cut off for the modern era. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people like to say nineteen seventy, after

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<v Speaker 1>the AFL and NFL merged. Uh. Some people like to

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<v Speaker 1>say when the Super Bowl era started in sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>in which case United is one and sixty seven. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of this discussion, I'm calling the modern

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<v Speaker 1>era after the league's merged in Okay. My argument is,

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<v Speaker 1>if Patrick Mahomes wins the Super Bowl on Sunday, Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes in three seasons as a starter at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of will have two Super Bowl rings, an m v

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<v Speaker 1>P Award, and perhaps two Super Bowl MVP Awards. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said to Rob G, I said, if Pat Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>has done that much after three seasons, he is already

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten quarterback in the NFL. And Rob G

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<v Speaker 1>gives me that, you know, waiting to reply like dot

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<v Speaker 1>dot dot, and he's waiting. He's waiting, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. And folks, this is not that difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I made the list. There's the top ten quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>the modern era of the NFL. And seriously, with a

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<v Speaker 1>victory in the Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes will crack the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. Now the guy he's gonna boot out. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to hear. But I'm gonna go through

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten. And this is not that difficult. This

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty easy. Okay, let's begin. Number one Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing needs to be said. He is the greatest quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history, bar none. Next number two, Joe Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm gonna get any pushback, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>four and oh. In the Super Bowls three Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>m v p s, the guy went back to back

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<v Speaker 1>regular season NFL MVP awards. Montana was the goat until

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<v Speaker 1>Brady passed him. This is where it gets interesting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>number three, A few guys can make the case. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going with Peyton Manning. I know he only has two

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl rings. The guy was unbelievable. Okay, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story of the NFL modern era without Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning very high up in the story. It was basically

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<v Speaker 1>Manning and Brady dominating the NFL for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen ish years. Peyton Manning four m v P Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the second Super Bowl with Denver whatever. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a fossil in the defense carried him and he

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible. But a crazy stat I found researching this.

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning is one of two quarterbacks in NFL history

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<v Speaker 1>with two hundred postseason and regular season wins combined. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know, quarterback ways, Jason, what a dumb stat. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to quarterback wins. I don't like it as

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<v Speaker 1>a stat. It does kind of enter the discussion a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit when you look big picture and can get

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<v Speaker 1>a larger than sample size than Lamar Jackson hasn't one

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<v Speaker 1>but one playoff game. He's not any good. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny sample size. Okay. Peyton Manning in his career

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<v Speaker 1>in the postseason fourteen and thirteen great quarterback. He did

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<v Speaker 1>lose three early in his career when this when they

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<v Speaker 1>were not very good. But I do believe it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And this goes back to Matt Stafford when we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, like Stafford's owen three in the playoffs always

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<v Speaker 1>states you can't want a big game. Okay, let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit deeper. Okay, Matt Stafford owen three in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Okay, he was an underdog of six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half or more in all three games, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the road in all three games. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>not act like he should have won those games. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've ultimately got to pull an upset or two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you want to be great, obviously that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>But Peyton Manning fourteen and thirteen career postseason record, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't put him ahead of Joe Montana. I'm sorry. So

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady won Joe Montana to Peyton Manning three. Number four. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this can be a spirited debate for my scoring purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's John Elway, um number four quarterback of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know that UM old school. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the nineteen eighties, those strongman competitions. They were

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN where you would have this hulking refrigerator size

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<v Speaker 1>man tie a rope around his waist and he would

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<v Speaker 1>try to pull like an eighteen wheeler and it would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, who can tug an eighteen wheeler across the

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<v Speaker 1>finish line? To me, John Elway did that with the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos. He basically put the entire or a franchise

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<v Speaker 1>on his back and dragged it to five Super Bowls. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, he got just absolutely thrashed the first few

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<v Speaker 1>times he was in the Super Bowl. Started owing three

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of really ugly losses in there, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a good team. But John Away, Holy cow,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy was phenomenal. I mean, for me, I have

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<v Speaker 1>him as the fourth best quarterback in modern NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much pushback there's gonna be. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of curious, um if people hate that, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the next two guys have a strong case,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, John Elway only won one m v

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<v Speaker 1>P Award in UM, but this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially he was right there with Joe Montana as

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<v Speaker 1>the best quarterback in the eighties. I know there's another guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get to him. Um, but I have John

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<v Speaker 1>Elway as number four. He did win two Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of his career. And yes, I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear you saying, yeah, he didn't win until he got

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<v Speaker 1>to Roll Davis. I'm aware of that. I've said that myself.

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<v Speaker 1>John Elway. Fourth best quarterback modern NFL history. Number five

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Farve and um, you know, three m v P

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<v Speaker 1>Awards in a row. I mean, Brett Farve in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties was off the charts and he I believe set

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<v Speaker 1>the record for starting three and one straight games just

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<v Speaker 1>a marathon. Man. I'm impressed. Now you're you're not that

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<v Speaker 1>impressed when you hear he only won one ring given

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<v Speaker 1>all those seasons and there were some playoff let down

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen and eleven in the playoffs. Um, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>have to factor in Brett Farve also played in the

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Brady era, and you know it's tough to win

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<v Speaker 1>when you're up against dynasties like that. Brett Farve also,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, was in the league when the Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dynasty happened, so kind of some unlucky stuff there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't take that away, Brett Farve. How many

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<v Speaker 1>guys have played quarterback in the NFL in the modern era.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna toss out a number. Five, five started

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<v Speaker 1>twenty more games. I don't. I'm just tossing out a

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<v Speaker 1>number to say, Brett Farve is the fifth is not

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<v Speaker 1>a slight in any way, shape or form. So to

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<v Speaker 1>recap Brady one, Montana to Payton three, l Way four,

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<v Speaker 1>Far five, Steve Young number six. This one probably will

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<v Speaker 1>make some people upset because he was only the starter

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<v Speaker 1>for seven years. Given he sat behind Montana in seven

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<v Speaker 1>years as a starter, the dude won three Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes he was handed a dynasty um from Montana

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<v Speaker 1>and Steve Young want two m v p s. He's

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<v Speaker 1>at Jerry Rice and such a loaded team. I get

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<v Speaker 1>all that, but you still gotta deliver. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta win the games. And Steve Young was a great quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>a running quarterback ahead of his time. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you will see none of the other guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>l Way was a scrambler, but Steve Young was a runner. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll know far Of again another scrambler. Young really a

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<v Speaker 1>running quarterback. I mean that run against the Vikings is

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<v Speaker 1>still I can still remember sitting on my couch, my

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<v Speaker 1>jaw dropping as a young guy like who Steve Young,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this guy's ridiculous. Steve Young sixth greatest

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the NFL modern era, number seven. I have

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers here. He's got three m VP Awards, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm counting this year's. By the way, um, he

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<v Speaker 1>has only one ring. He is only eleven nine, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and nine in the playoffs. There is sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>John Elway esque field to Aaron Rodgers. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>I have a big time Packers buddy who used to

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<v Speaker 1>work for me at the Big Lead, and um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious as to if he thinks Aaron Rodgers just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit overrated, because you could argue Rogers is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>top three most talented. This guy is just off the

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<v Speaker 1>charts good. It is a little unfortunate that he has

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<v Speaker 1>come up empty in the playoffs. I think he's lost

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<v Speaker 1>three NSC championship games. I remember Seattle, I obviously remember

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<v Speaker 1>the last two back to back. Um, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what can you do? It's not like Aaron Rodgers was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who dropped the on side kick against Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, um, so I have hit him as the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh best quarterback of the NFL modern era and number

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<v Speaker 1>eight Drew Brees. I was stunned by this stat. Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Brees has never won an NFL MVP. Work cannot even

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<v Speaker 1>be true. How does Drew Brees never won an m

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<v Speaker 1>v P. Drew Brees great quarterback? Come on, um, he

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<v Speaker 1>did win a Super Bowl ring and he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most accurate pastors obviously in NFL history. Interesting career

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<v Speaker 1>playoff record nine and nine. Yes, I know who you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are thinking of when I bring up playoff records

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Sanchez four and two. Obviously, so Drew Brees, number eight,

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<v Speaker 1>number nine. I had Terry Bradshaw. This is the only

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<v Speaker 1>guy going back to the seventies that I included on

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<v Speaker 1>the list. Listen, guys, you win four Super bowls. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you went two Super Bowl m vps. You're a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>damn good quarterback. And Terry Bradshaw was part of that

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<v Speaker 1>dynasty in Pittsburgh in the seventies. No, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>this because I worked with him. Have never met Terry Bradshaw.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think on the lot um, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to give away anything. I hope I don't get in trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>but there may be a Fox Sports Digital Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>watch party with Terry Bradshaw and Jason McIntyre in some

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<v Speaker 1>way shape or for him coming up. We'll see, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see Um obviously not just us, So Terry Bradshaw, number

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<v Speaker 1>nine and number ten, the guy everybody's been waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. The only guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten to never win a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Put up monster numbers eight and ten in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>only one super Bowl trip. And my big build up

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<v Speaker 1>to this is, Guys, if Patrick Mahomes beats Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>and went to Super Bowl, you've got to put Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes in the top ten and you have to remove

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Marino. And Dan Marino was a phenomenal quarterback. He

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<v Speaker 1>had good receivers, he had a really good coach. Um

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<v Speaker 1>one of the defenses left a little something to be desired. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you could argue about the lack of running game, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you start getting that granular, it's almost like you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make excuses. And I'm not for Dan Marino.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great, great quarterback, unlucky and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think the only ring he won was an eighth fenter

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<v Speaker 1>a pet detective. By the way, great movie showed it

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<v Speaker 1>to the kids. Let's just say they didn't totally understand

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<v Speaker 1>the Finkle design horn thing. Um they're young. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe Patrick Mahomes will pass Dan Marino and

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<v Speaker 1>enter the top ten NFL quarterbacks of all time if

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes wins a second Super Bowl at And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go Tony Romo and um say Mahomes can

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<v Speaker 1>never catch Brady if he loses this. Um, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to remind you, guys, Patrick Mahomes is twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing stuff that nobody could have imagined from a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was picked at the tenth position in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to hear Willie's Andy Reid. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be painful to some Eagles fans. But

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<v Speaker 1>what had Andy Reid won before Pat Mahomes. Andy bere

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<v Speaker 1>was a great coach into a bunch of nfsy title games,

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<v Speaker 1>went to a Super Bowl, the one where Donovan and

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<v Speaker 1>Nabb vomited all over the field. Um. Andy, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a very very good coach who could not get over

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<v Speaker 1>the hump. Pat Holmes put him over the hup, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear this. Pat Mahomes has a

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<v Speaker 1>stack team, guys. I went on the walk, Remember, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to walk a hike with our family and another

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<v Speaker 1>one we wore masks. Just putting that out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>my son was like with the other guy who's in

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<v Speaker 1>fourth grade, they were like, wait, how did the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>get Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys didn't know this. Tyreek Hell was like a fifth

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick and Kelsey was like a third round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were like, oh, so it's not like Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes came to this ridiculously stacked team that's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>team in NFL history. This ain't Steve Young taking over

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<v Speaker 1>from Montana. No disrespect to Alex Smith, who did go

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs the year before. Patrick Mahomes took over

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<v Speaker 1>as a starter, But Mahomes is what makes this team go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>They're not loaded with incredible defensive Hall of famers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones is awesome and Honey Badger is really really good,

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and Steve Spagnolo is a phenomenal defensive coach. But this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Mahomes is like in the perfect position. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has to be in a great position, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could have said the same one Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Marino went to Don Shula, right, I mean, hello, that's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, folks, I just named the top ten quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL modern history. The Packers for the last like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years are represented on that list. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of happenstance that's happened, but this idea that, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes is on a sack team, Like I just I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just ask you, guys, I don't maybe I missed it,

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<v Speaker 1>but what had the Chiefs one before Patrick ma Holmes

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<v Speaker 1>got there? I don't know. So for my money, Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>wins this. He cracked the top ten, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie, guys, like, there's a chance by the age

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty, he hadds another one another one after. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's stopping the Chiefs at this point

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<v Speaker 1>short of off field issues two major stars obviously injuries. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the salary cap slows them down. They

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<v Speaker 1>just paid Pat Malomes five million. But this guy, Mahomes, Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we we do. I don't know that I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>anything like you know, a lot of these. Get Peyton Manning,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew greatness was coming. Tom Brady, we did not

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 1>know that was coming. Nobody could have predicted that. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who tells you that's lying. Um. Anybody who predicted far

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>also lying. Remember he was drafted second round by the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Falcons. Okay, nobody thought Aaron Rodgers would be this good,

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>falling to twenty in the draft. Elway was they can't

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>miss prospect. We get that Joe Montana given back to

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<v Speaker 1>his Notre Dame Day's phenomenal quarterback. Um, but you know

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>this Patrick Mahomes stuff is ridiculous. It's just really crazy

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>what he's accomplished. Now. There is probably well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of names. Troy Aikman was very close. UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>have Roger Staubach as very very close. UM. A guy

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<v Speaker 1>I need to give some more thought to is Russell Wilson. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know, I'm a huge fan of Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a Super Bowl, doesn't have an m v P.

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<v Speaker 1>UM lost the Super Bowl by throwing a pick on

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where Russell Wilson ends up on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's time for the best bet. Yesterday we

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<v Speaker 1>gave out one Super Bowl prop and my next one.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are gonna love this one. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>not play. This is a four fun You will enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Now, I'm not into the what color is

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<v Speaker 1>the gatorade? Bath on? Andy Reid or Bruce Arians. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in two heads or tails. That's just silly nonsense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a fun bet. Will any field goal or

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<v Speaker 1>extra point attempt hit the uprights or the crossbar? Now

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<v Speaker 1>I did see a plus four for Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>bet this, UM, And I'll tell you why. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this brings joy to every single kick and everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, whoever you're wherever you're watching outdoors hopefully, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is going to get pumped for every kick. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's oh that's got a touchdown, Great, let

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<v Speaker 1>me go the bathroom. No not. When you make this bet,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be watching and rooting for the doink you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna And now I have looked at the wind a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit right now they're calling for winds maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a little early in the week to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, UM, And there's really no research you can

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<v Speaker 1>do on uh, you know, the kickers and hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>uprights to the crossbar like it is a little bit long.

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<v Speaker 1>The lucky side Um, the rooting for a doink and

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<v Speaker 1>the noise that it makes when it hits off the

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<v Speaker 1>upright is cool. You guys have to admit that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back to Justin Tucker, one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>kickers in NFL history, arguably number one, hits the upright

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<v Speaker 1>twice in that game against the Bills twice, Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that was cool. I love hearing the doint

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<v Speaker 1>the thud. Now. I did not like hearing the doink

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<v Speaker 1>slash thud when the Chicago Bears kicker lost it to

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles a few years ago. I had Unfortunately, I

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<v Speaker 1>was heavily invested in the Bears on that one. That

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<v Speaker 1>really really hurt. Um. But in the Super Bowl, rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for a doing come on, that's awesome. That's fun. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will advocate put some pizza money on. I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take all your game stop winnings and rolling

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<v Speaker 1>into will any field goal extra point hit the uprights

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<v Speaker 1>a cross bar? But yes, at plus four, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>fun bet. And the way I look at it, the

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<v Speaker 1>over under of fifty six and a half is calling

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<v Speaker 1>for anywhere from six to seven touchdowns, maybe eight, couple

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<v Speaker 1>of field goals anywhere in that range. So you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at possibly eight kicks to hit the upright or cross bar,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, that's just like fun. It just adds

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<v Speaker 1>a level of excitement to every kick in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And guys, I hope you piggybacked me on that and

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<v Speaker 1>we win. That's it for to day's show. Don't come

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