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Speaker 1: It is Wins the April twenty eight, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: season sixteen, episode number one oh seven. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are presented by Geico

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Speaker 1: and we were alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. We got a lot to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll be the NFL Draft, and so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get you guys ready for that. We're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: each position and talk about what the Cowboys could use

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Speaker 1: and uh and where we think they may use some

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Speaker 1: who who they think the Cowboys will pick with their

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Speaker 1: are ready for the draft tomorrow. All right, So first

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Speaker 1: we didn't need to talk a little bit about Sean

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Speaker 1: Lee yesterday he makes the announcement, or at least as

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Speaker 1: the press conference where Sean made the formal announcement that

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Speaker 1: he is retiring from the NFL. My first question for

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Speaker 1: up Sean's career and like what your thoughts are in

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Speaker 1: his career and what he meant to this team, what

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Speaker 1: would it be. Let's start with you, Nick. He was

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Speaker 1: a really good player. That's that's where I think he was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he could have been better had he played

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Speaker 1: longer and been on the field more. He missed fifty

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Speaker 1: eight games. That's that's almost four years of games really,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, he could have made more Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowls probably, um, you know, and then then he would

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Speaker 1: would be talking about you know, Ring of Honor and

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Speaker 1: maybe more than that, but not likely. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: just could have had more had he been on the

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Speaker 1: was one of the better linebackers they've ever had. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jason Witten gets a lot of credit for this,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, but I just you know, Shan Lee

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Speaker 1: a professional football player operates, That's what I think of

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Speaker 1: when I think of shan Lee. Just a consummate professional.

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Speaker 1: He gets a lot of credit for grinding tape, but um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just the way he conducts himself in general,

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Speaker 1: be a surprisingly fun guy when he doesn't when it's

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Speaker 1: It'd be such a great story though, if it was

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Speaker 1: like these nineteen seventy pair of shoes, and because I

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Speaker 1: But I think that you have a chance to get somebody.

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Speaker 1: I would fifth round just seems like it's it's it'd

426
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Speaker 1: be doable. He got ten picks, Yeah, I think you

427
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: one Camber's earliest pick you'd use on a quarterback. Well,

428
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm completely opposite these two guys. I'm like,

429
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 1: I would put it out like three or two. As

430
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: far as if we're specifically looking at the draft, if

431
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: it was free agency, I would probably rate it higher

432
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: for someone that has experienced but especially after we went

433
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: down through looking at each draft every year and stuff.

434
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: Once you start getting into that area of the draft,

435
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: like Nick was saying, fifth round round there, I mean,

436
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: it's like completely hit or miss. You just don't know.

437
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 1: So honestly, I'm I would rather spend that on a

438
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: defensive player than on a quarterback, especially after signing Dak Prescot.

439
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: And again, we don't know what could happen. We don't

440
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: know if he can reinjure himself or any of that.

441
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: But I'm okay with I'm not gonna say I'm okay,

442
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 1: but I would rather see Garrett Gilbert than bring someone

443
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 1: in from the draft and expect that guy to be

444
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: any better than the previous guys that they brought him.

445
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Bendy Neucchi, Cooper Rush and so what are all these

446
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: other names? All really forgot? These other guys from the

447
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: No no, no, from the past guys yeah later later

448
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: I don't remember that either. I thought you meant the

449
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: guys on the team. No, no, no no, I'm saying, like

450
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: the Bendy new is a Cooper Rush, those types of guy, Mike, why, yeah,

451
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: you just they you just forget about this who was

452
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: draft pick. But I'm not sp it's not guaranteed to

453
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: work here. Yeah, I mean we're two point zero who

454
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: started at Texas went to Smuch. Yeah, he's one of

455
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: the guys on my list because the thing like, they

456
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: there's no way they can touch a quarterback on the

457
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: first two days they got four picks. They got too

458
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: much other stuff to do Saturdays the day. So you're

459
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: out on Kyle Trask, You're out on Kellen Mond, You're

460
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: out on obviously the big guys, like those guys are

461
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: all gonna be gone. So I think I'd rather take

462
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: Ellinger than take Buscheks. That's honestly, Philippe. Franks would be

463
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: a good spot here for the Cowboys I got. I

464
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: got no love for Arkansas, but I would like that

465
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: pick a lot, I really would. And he's got Florida guy,

466
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: he's both You're right, I don't I got a Florida either.

467
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: The second fastest forty time among quarterbacks, which shocks me

468
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: because I watched him play lest year. Which shocks me

469
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: is that he actually made forty yards without falling down

470
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: like Franks is. They's not smooth with the run, but

471
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: he's big six what six six six, big guy. He's

472
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: got a cannon arm, good attitude, all that stuff. He's

473
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: got all the intangibles. Yeah, he's not a great decision maker.

474
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: Uh he likes to he's a he's kind of a

475
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: yolo ball guy. But like that's why you sit behind

476
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: pro quarterbacks and develop. Yeah. So, I mean, if they

477
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: could get him in the fifth or sixth round, I'd

478
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: be all four. I think we're all on the same

479
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, fifth or six would be good. But she's

480
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: not me, I said syphically. I am not on the

481
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: same page. I was about to say. Bis. She said

482
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: if it didn't happen, it wouldn't lead off Sports Center

483
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys didn't draft a quarterback. Good point. So

484
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: if it did, it probably would. So I mean, even

485
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: if they don't get one, you're gonna get You're gonna

486
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: pick up some free agent. So they're gonna get a rookie.

487
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: We're not gonna finish this if we spend we just

488
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: spent ten minutes on the quarterback, Well yeah, we'll move

489
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: on to the next position. Let's go to running back.

490
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: What's the knee ten to one three? I put it.

491
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: I just I only say that just in my opinion,

492
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: Amber is going to disagree with this because she like,

493
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: She's like, give me good players that will bank make

494
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: the team better right now at every spot day three.

495
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: You got six picks on day three. If you like

496
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: the guy, pick him, doesn't matter. I don't care. Like, yeah,

497
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: they got needs. But if a running back that shouldn't

498
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: be there is there, draft him, I don't care. So

499
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: I say three, you got Zeke, you got Tony and that.

500
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: And even if you're worried about Zeke's contract, he's here

501
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: for two years. Tony's here for two years. This is

502
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: not something you need to worry about right now. But

503
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: if there's a player you like, do it. That's no. Yeah. See,

504
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: Amber's like, what are you talking about? You guys are crazy.

505
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean this is on defense, not freaking offense. We

506
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: just basically say, until we get to the defensive side

507
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: of the ball, leave them alone. You're like, I'm at

508
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, realistically, I'm looking at okay, this year,

509
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: this specifically year, who's gonna be playing on the field.

510
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: And I get it, we saw it last year, how

511
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: many injuries happened and the crazy things that can happen.

512
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: But at the same time you got Ezekiel Tony Polar.

513
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: You know those guys are not getting off the field.

514
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: For you to throw in a guy that you drafted

515
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: in the fifth round or sixth round, it's whatever. So

516
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'd rather spend all those pick. I need

517
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: every single pick on defense, mostly unless unless there is

518
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: this tight end that we keep hearing about. I won't

519
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: be that mad if that was to happen. But otherwise,

520
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: everything else, I'm spending it on defense or an offensive

521
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: line player. This is which I get it. I hear you,

522
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people share that opinion.

523
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: But like that's that's the great frustration of the two

524
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: different fews of the draft. Like Bradley and I played defense.

525
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: They got him way after anybody thought they could. Last year,

526
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: he didn't play like one. Once you get to Day three,

527
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: all bets are off. Just take the best player. I

528
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: don't care what position he plays. I mean, because odds

529
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: are he's not going to get on the field anyway,

530
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: even if he plays a position that you need. I'll

531
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: guarantee you this. In assuming they take ten players, I

532
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: guarantee you that they do not take more than six

533
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: defensive players. It'll be six to four. If it's not

534
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: five to five, it won't be seven to three. Defense.

535
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: I could see it. It just depends on how it falls.

536
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I agree. I agree with you for

537
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: the most part, though six to four maybe you never

538
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: nobody's ever just like ten to nothing now or nine

539
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: to one now, it'll be they'll take. I mean, I

540
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: think you kind of do need to look at running back.

541
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say like five there because really, yeah,

542
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: because where do they fit? What will they fit right now? Well,

543
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends what they can do. But I

544
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a more well rounded player, not

545
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: a specialty polar guy, a poor Man Zeke type of back.

546
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I don't know's I'm not going

547
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: way back in the draft, but I'm looking at a

548
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: Marian Barber type guy in the fourth fifth round that

549
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: that had to split carries and so that maybe he

550
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't get as much stats, but you know, for game

551
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: or two he can do it and he'll show you

552
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: some things. And you know, you like you love to

553
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: see those guys in preseason as well. Um, but but

554
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: that might be what you have, Enrico Daddle. I mean

555
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm not not really sure, So I mean, I don't know.

556
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I'd say if I say that, I bet they draft

557
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: a running back, but I don't think. Again, it's not

558
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: like a huge need. Other things and we'll finish this.

559
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: I know running back is not important, but you're not

560
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: convincing an undrafted free agent to come here a running

561
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: back like how on Earth? So if you like, if

562
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: you like a guy that's your Ben d Nucci, like

563
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: your seventh round flyer, you better draft him if you

564
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: want him to come down. Boys, Yeah, you're never gonna

565
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: get to play, right, you'll be sitting. Come come to

566
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: Dallas where you might not make the team, and even

567
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: if you do, you'll never maybe you get to play

568
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: special teams. Maybe you get to play special teas. All right,

569
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: let's watch the next position, wide receiver. What do we

570
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: rank this assumptions we're all gonna be you know this

571
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: is a okay. Let me just ask the question on

572
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: a one to ten scale, where do you put the

573
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: need at wide receiver? I put it. I put it

574
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: out of six, probably because I'm in love with wide receivers.

575
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: But again, you know, we talked about this for years

576
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: with the offensive line, is like keep a strength of strength.

577
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: Just keep drafting guys Michael Gallops in a contract year,

578
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson and Noah Browner in contract years. Like it

579
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: looks amazing right now, but drafts are for four and

580
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: five years, not one. And should it be the first

581
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: round pick, probably not. Should it be the second round pick,

582
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: probably not? But talk to you into your guy at

583
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: one if he's there, absolutely me me. If Jalen Waddle

584
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase is there, either one, you you you're

585
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: not doing your job right if you're not at least

586
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: talking about it again. Like again, this is not about

587
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: one year, it's about five. We don't know that they

588
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: think that way. We don't, but I bet they do.

589
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been that. I refuse to believe they

590
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: don't think that those guys are two of the ten

591
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: or twelve best players in the draft in my opinion.

592
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: Is it a huge need. No, But you can do

593
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff, Like if Jamar Chase was

594
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: on this team, you could trade Michael gallup for a

595
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: player or a pick or whatever, or you know, you

596
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: could you could do something with a mari if you

597
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: wanted to. Like you always got to have an open mind,

598
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: about this stuff. Do I think they'll do it? No?

599
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Do I think they should do it? No? But it's

600
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: at least something you should talk about. Okay, here's the thought.

601
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I've actually said this in ever, but

602
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: a speed guy, you know, receiver, that that would be

603
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: something that I think that they should look at. This.

604
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to the two thousand and four version of Cowboys.

605
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: This team. Yeah, two thousand and four. I was telling

606
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: you about a guy in Hester that maybe it would

607
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: be right, But no, I just think that as good

608
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: as the receivers are as great as they are and

609
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: can be, there's not that go guy. They don't have

610
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: that guy. And that's what Waddle would give you for sure.

611
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm looking at middle rounds of guys

612
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: like that. So there's a guy like of you. The

613
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: other day, there's guy in Auburn named Schwartz. That guy

614
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: was he was running track. He's soaked that I mean,

615
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: somebody like that. And if you get later on in

616
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the round and those guys could run, obviously they got

617
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: their warts in their game or whatever. But that's the

618
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: one guy receiver that I'm gonna take. Is the guy

619
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: that's that's in the four two, four three four three

620
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be a four two, but like four three

621
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: four four round your boy, Schwartz. I know. I mean

622
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: it was unofficial, but he was unofficially clocked at like

623
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: four two eight or something like that. I mean, I'm

624
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: just saying, in a perfect world, they have two fourth

625
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: they have two fourth round picks, one fifteen and one

626
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and in my perfect world, one of those

627
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: would be a receiver. Yeah, not somebody that needs to

628
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: play this year. But you know, Michael Gallup Insurance will

629
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: call it yea yep, Amber, I don't know, man. I

630
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: that's a hard one for me too, It says, because

631
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: I get it, we look at the future and all that,

632
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 1: but I only care about now. And I say this

633
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: every time. I only care about this year. And I

634
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: know that Michael Gallup his contract is coming up and

635
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: all that, so you're gonna need a receiver later on,

636
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: but as of right now. And I know this is

637
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: not how you draft. I get it. I get it,

638
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: but I just can't help myself but to be like,

639
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't care about what happens next year. I just

640
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: care about this year. Okay, So let's assume for a

641
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: second that the people that are making the comparison of

642
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: Waddle to Tyreek Hill. Let's assume you could get Tyreek

643
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: Hill at number ten in the first round. Are you

644
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: willing to do that? No? Yes, draft him. Trade Michael

645
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: gallup to somebody who's got a young cornerback that I

646
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: can add to my roster, and let's party. And I

647
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: can hear the people yelling at me, and I don't care.

648
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: Right well, I mean that's a tricky one, it really is,

649
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: because I mean you're still you need I mean defense,

650
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: there's no doubt you need fixed defense. But I mean

651
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: you do have to look at the long term. You

652
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: have to and and you know, you could piece some

653
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: things together on defense. This team isn't very good at

654
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: it that some teams are. Maybe Quinn is a lot

655
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: better at it, but you know, you could. You could

656
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: make the case at receiver like he's saying, You could

657
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: make the case at offensive line and go, you're up here.

658
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: There's special linement and you're probably gonna need one at

659
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: one point, you know, But it just depends on who

660
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: who you think is special. And and that's I don't know.

661
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: We have something on the website going later today called

662
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: what would you do not what we think they are

663
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna do, certain and all that. What would you do?

664
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: And this guy says Wattle and and and that's that's

665
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: what he's saying. And I'm staying Michael Parson's Penn State.

666
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: That's what I would do at number ten. If he's there,

667
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm taking him as these would be your these would

668
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: be your top guys. It's like you think would be

669
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: there and you're assuming that the cornerbacks are on the board,

670
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: you would take those two? Yeah, probably, yep. If those

671
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: corners are taking him. Have you seen Jalen Wattle play?

672
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: You are going to leave Sports Center people and you know,

673
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: people get like, people get mad. There are ways you

674
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: can solve these problems, like I mean, trade Michael Gallup

675
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: or or signed Richard Sherman after the draft is over again.

676
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: And I think I think the world of Patrick Certan

677
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: and J. C. Horne, and I think it'll be a

678
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: good pick if that's who they pick tomorrow night. But

679
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna let being afraid of what

680
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: happened last year hold me hostage from passing on a badass.

681
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Are you not? If you get into that situation, yeah,

682
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: maybe so the one thing I'll say is like, maybe

683
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: part of my problem here with wide receiver is I

684
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: keep thinking about the Detroit Lions years ago when they

685
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: went first round wide receivers, what three years in a row,

686
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, Charles Roger, like, it's just it just there

687
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: is a point where you can have too much of

688
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: something because you just can't get the full value out

689
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: of it and you cannot receiver a little you can

690
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more receiver. You can have some fun

691
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: with some of the passage. No, you cannot have some fun,

692
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: not this year, have some fun another year. But you

693
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: guys are you guys are frustrating me right now because

694
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: I just refuse. I refuse to drest. Like if we're

695
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: raising the Derek's fault, it's all thanks Derek's fault. It's

696
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: not my fault. You started the draft show like after Thanksgiving,

697
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Like this is this is what happens when you get

698
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: to this point, You're gonna you're gonna tell You're gonna

699
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: talk about why you should draft a punter. At some point,

700
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: I mean, everything is gonna horn. We know it. Dave

701
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: knows that, everybody knows it. But at this point, it's

702
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: just it's like let's put some fun here also, like

703
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: I know you believe it, it is fun. I just

704
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: I just want people to think outside the box a

705
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: little bit more, that's all. And I can't I can't,

706
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: um what's the word you shouldn't you like, we needed cornerback,

707
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: but he we raided him an eight out of ten

708
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: and this guy's an eleven out of ten, and so

709
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: but we're we need the cornerback, Like that's not Jared

710
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: said it yesterday. He didn't. He didn't tell us a lot,

711
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: but he said yesterday. Don't be so stupid with your needs.

712
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: He said it, like he said with that, so you

713
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: just wonder, now you got to figure out what their

714
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: board isn't There are ways, there are ways you can

715
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: fix these problems. And I don't think they'll draft Waddle,

716
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, they probably shouldn't.

717
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: But I just get frustrated when people are like, that's

718
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Is like, no, adding

719
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: great players to your team is not stupid and you

720
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: can work around it. Think about it like this, And

721
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: I know this sounds kind of silly, but when you're

722
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: playing fantasy football, okay, and you're drafting I know my

723
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: strategy is always like, well, when it gets to the

724
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: middle rounds, like I'm gonna start the run on the

725
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: tight end. Well, tight ends now a different thing, but

726
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: like I'm going to start the run on the defense

727
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: or maybe the kicker or whatever because it's a little early.

728
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: But guess what, I got the best one. I know

729
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: that just like a linebacker. You know, That's why I

730
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: like about Parsons, I got the best one. Cornerback, You're

731
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: probably gonna be able to say that too. You know

732
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: you got the best one course end as well. So

733
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's if and I think we're not talking

734
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: about linebacker being more of a need than corner really.

735
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean think about like corner, Oh we gotta have

736
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: a corner out of a corner. Well, but I mean,

737
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: if you had to start right now, you'd start Anthony

738
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Brown and Jordan Lewis and trey Von Diggs. But at linebacker,

739
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: you'd starting Jalen Smith and Leyton if he's healthy, and

740
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: then you don't know who's the third guy. And I

741
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: mean I think there's more and definitely got questions down

742
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: the road at linebacker. So yeah, I think linebacker may

743
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: be a bigger need all right, let's jump to the

744
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: offensive line. Let's talk about it. I want to talk

745
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: about it kind of as a boot, because I think

746
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: that's where you kind of have to like look at

747
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: this position. Where would you rate the offensive line as

748
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: far as need ten to one? For me, tackle is

749
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: at it like an eight. I put the interior at

750
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: like a five or six up fair, I like that eight.

751
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: I was thinking eight and yeah eight five eight six.

752
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: McCarthy said something interesting to me yesterday, which was like

753
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: he was. He basically said, like I would guess with

754
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: ten picks, we're gonna draft he said a lineman. But

755
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: he was talking about the interiors. He was specifically talking

756
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: about like making adding competition for Tyler Beata. And I'm

757
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: sitting there saying, well, you got Connor, you got Zach,

758
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: you got the other Connor. Connor mcgovernment played center in college.

759
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: Like it seems fine to me. But again, when you

760
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: have ten picks, why not? But like from I hope

761
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I really hope one of these four top one hundred

762
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: picks as a tackle. I really hope it is. I

763
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: would write, I mean about the same. I just we

764
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: hear it every year where you're expecting all of Yren

765
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: Smith to be healthy again, and then now you add

766
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: Lalla Collins to the mix, and there's always an injury

767
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: problem there. And I don't want to have just a

768
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: good passing game. I need my running game to be

769
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: able to work as well. And I think that was

770
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: a big issue. I mean, clearly it was a big

771
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: issue last year, but I think that part of it

772
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: was what was happening with the offensive line. So I

773
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: need Ezekiel Elia to get back into form and get

774
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: help from the old line. So I see it as

775
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: a pretty high need. All right, let's jump to the

776
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: tight end position, because this is one that's been talked

777
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: about over and over and over again this season, mainly

778
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: because at the top of the first round you've got

779
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: a guy that appears by all most people's accounts to

780
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: be a very special player. I'm talking a generational type

781
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: player in Kyle Pitts. First of all, where do you

782
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: rate this as far as they need for the Cowboys?

783
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: And then you can talk a little bit about are

784
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: you willing to jump outside of that for someone that's

785
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: supposedly going to be this great or projects to be

786
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: this great in the NFL. It's really funny because I don't.

787
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: I don't see tight end as a big one for need.

788
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: I say three. I didn't put anything that low because

789
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: like you can always find, you can always upgrade your talent,

790
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: I said three or four. Like tight end, it's such

791
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: a hard position for guys to adjust to. It took

792
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin some time. Dalton Schultz didn't really break out

793
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to his third year. It's very rare to see, especially

794
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: like the further back you go, the steeper the learning curve.

795
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: And so I like this current strategy of just adding

796
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: guys in free agency, like Blake Bell did a good job.

797
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: I like the Jeremy Sprinkle signing. You got Sean mccun

798
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: still here, and then you got your two. If they

799
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: didn't draft one, I wouldn't even care. Yeah, but Kyle

800
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: Pitts though, I mean yeah, I mean he's the guy.

801
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: You can do it. You're drafted. You drafted because you're

802
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: not drafting a tied end so much. You're drafting a

803
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: just a freak player. And let's be honest, I mean,

804
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: we know he's not really really a tied end. He's

805
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a mismatch. But I guess I'll ask you

806
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: this because you guys looked at tape. Is he is

807
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: he putting his hand down and going up again? Defensive ends,

808
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: I can get in the way, Like he's not Marty

809
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: b but he can. He's better. He's a better blocker

810
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: than he gets credit for it. I thought you were

811
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: going to say better than Witten, which, well, he's better.

812
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: He's probably he's better now than Witton was in the

813
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: final years of his career. I don't know if he's

814
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: better than prime Witten, but because he's a he's gonna be.

815
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: He can get on that'll get better. I would assume

816
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: once gets he's six six, two fifty, he can get

817
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: on the line, he can chip the end, he can

818
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: help the tackle. He could probably. I wouldn't want to

819
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: put him against an end one on one and hope

820
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: that it's going to go well. But like he can

821
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: do what he needs to do. Would you okay, I'll

822
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: ask you this. Would you trade up for him eight?

823
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: He's fall into eight? What are you giving up for

824
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: that third? Probably one of your one of your dates? Yeah,

825
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: probably you're one of your thirds, just from ten to eight. No,

826
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: not me and not me either, And that's I'm I'm

827
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: not moving for anybody. There's not a player out there,

828
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I would move up. I sound like I'm talking out

829
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: of both sides of my mouth, because well, I love

830
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. He wants He's my favorite player in the draft.

831
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: But they need to make four picks in the top

832
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: one hundred. They need guys that can come in and help,

833
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: and they need a tight end. Isn't dire enough that

834
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: they should be getting rid of those resources? I agree

835
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: if you did need a position like this, if you

836
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: needed it, then yeah, I'd go get it. But I'm

837
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: not trading up forward. But no, I agree. Would you?

838
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: But would you take him at ten? With I? Would you?

839
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Would you know? No time would elapse that the one

840
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: guy I would take like it would be nine fifty

841
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: eight on the clock and it would go d D

842
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: D ding d D ding ding. The Cowboys have made

843
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: their pick. But but but wait, but wait, because there

844
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: is a team sitting it. I don't know sixteen, I

845
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: don't even know what it looks like. But there is

846
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Speaker 1: a team five or six picks back that just desperately

847
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: would love him, and they don't play you all the time.

848
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Speaker 1: So they're in the AFC and then they they call

849
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Speaker 1: and they say, do I get there one next year. Yeah,

850
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: next year's one, next year's one, And I mean, I

851
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't know if you I don't

852
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: think you could get next year's one. I think you would.

853
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know. I would say

854
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Speaker 1: this if I was going to get next year's one.

855
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, there were at least three four

856
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: guys still on the board that I want. I'm talking

857
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: one of the two offensive linemen, just one of the

858
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: two cornerbacks, who's gonna get picked if he's there and

859
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: all the other guys. Yeah, I mean, that's you would

860
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: have to at that point, you'd have to have all

861
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks that are projected as possibilities in that top five.

862
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: You would have to have at least two of those

863
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 1: wide receivers a top five right and two offensive linemens.

864
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: We said this about Lamb last year and it worked out,

865
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: but there were two other great receivers. Pits is the

866
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: only tight end. It's really hard to imagine a scenario

867
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Speaker 1: where he falls that far. I think, starting at four

868
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: and going until eight, I just I can't I can't

869
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: see it. I can't seehim getting at it. But if

870
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Speaker 1: he's there and they don't pick him, I might walk

871
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: off the set of the show. Honestly, like we're live

872
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: broadcasting the draft. I'll be so upset if they pass

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00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
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922
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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and now let's start

923
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: with the defensive tackle position. Give me your your assessment

924
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: of this as a need ten to one. The fun

925
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: thing about defense is like your number should be high

926
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere. I think, I put I put seven, I

927
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: put seven eight on d tackle and I would only

928
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: say they have bodies. That's the only thing. Like they

929
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: have enough bodies. At D tackle to play right now,

930
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: not maybe you don't feel great about the talent level,

931
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: but Tristan Hill, Nevill Gallimore, Antoine Woods and the two

932
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: new guys Carlos Watkins and Brent Urban, like you can

933
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: play with that, but I would love to add to

934
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: it if they can. Yep, I agree anything, yep, I agree,

935
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: and probably in the top with your top four picks.

936
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I think, I think that would be ideals. You know,

937
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: that's where you got Gallimore line year, get Tristan Hill

938
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: the year before that, I don't remember. I mean, Antoine

939
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: Woods wasn't drafted. I don't believe. That's the funny thing,

940
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Like people are like, we need to draft a D tackle.

941
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: We've been ignoring it. I'm like, they drafted the one

942
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: in the second and the third in back to back years.

943
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: So that doesn't hold water in MALIEK. Collins in twenty sixteen,

944
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know they've drafted defensive tackles, just

945
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: not in the first round. I would yeah, Which that's

946
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: it's frustrating because you know, the top one hundred picks

947
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: or where all my focus is. Like I said, after that,

948
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: you're just kind of throwing darts. But there's so many

949
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: positions where you'd like to see them take a guy there,

950
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'd love to get a d tackle

951
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: at ninety nine, but I'd love to get a you know,

952
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: I'd love to get an offensive tackle at ninety nine.

953
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: Two Like it's it's hard to figure out, all right,

954
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: jumped to the defensive end position. Where is it, Reik,

955
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: and where would you think the Cowboys would consider it?

956
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: This is the biggest bummer in this entire draft cycle,

957
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: because if you're drafting in the top ten, you should

958
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: have a shot at a badass, said Rusher. And it

959
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like it's there this year. I put

960
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: it at like I put it at seven. I think

961
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Tank and Randy's a good duo to Terrell. Basham's fine,

962
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: and you know Dorrin's Armstrong. We talked about him a

963
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But especially you don't think they're

964
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: going to be an upgrade disposition because anybody that you

965
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: can always you can always upgrade the position to be

966
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: better than Dorin's Armstrong, to upgrade it. I just don't

967
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: think you know can Okay, there's not a Bosa or

968
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: a Chase Young and I you know they wouldn't have

969
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: a shot at those guys anyway. But but typic like

970
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: there's guys you're like, oh yeah, Like you remember the

971
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: year they drafted Taco, there were like six ins, you know,

972
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: Tack McKinley and Charles Harris and all these other guys

973
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: that it just doesn't seem like it lines up, like

974
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: it would be a reach in my opinion, if they

975
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: drafted an addresser that high. But just remember that, you

976
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: know in Seattle, and I guess you could say the

977
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: same in Atlanta. I mean this defense with dan Quinn,

978
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: he's had some success with guys that weren't drafted super high.

979
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe in the first, second round, third round,

980
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be looking at defensive end. You know,

981
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: their priority will be be looking at ins, but it

982
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they'll be a good fit for it. This

983
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: is a very not sexy eddress your class, but the

984
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: need is there, and dan Quinn has a defensive line background,

985
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: so like it shouldn't surprise anybody to see them draft one.

986
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm still recovering from what they did with Tackle and

987
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: the pig that they spent around him, So how do

988
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it happening. There's no one.

989
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: And of course I do not study the draft like

990
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: any of you guys do, but there hasn't been a

991
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: name or someone that I'm like excited for, or even

992
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: in the later rounds, you know, someone that stands out,

993
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: just like Dave mentioned, but just in general, this is

994
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: a position where I would be semi okay if they

995
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: find it a tackle, But then for a defensive end

996
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: they look for someone undrafted or maybe during training camp

997
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: once teams start cutting guys and kind of get a

998
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: better look at other players that could come in and

999
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: at least at some depth and just be there and

1000
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: just compete, not really expecting expecting anyone to start, but

1001
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: at least just to check it out. But no one

1002
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: stands out, honestly, all right, linebacker, you put it nine? Nine?

1003
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: Is this the Is this the highest one you gave?

1004
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Not as far as positions, No, we're gonna get to that. Yeah, okay,

1005
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: a nine. Yeah, I gotta I gotta get a linebacker.

1006
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 1: I gotta get a good one, you know. I gotta

1007
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: get a guy in the top four picks that that's

1008
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: going to come in here and play. That's honest. If

1009
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: I had to and I've I've talked about this a lot,

1010
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: but if I had to pick a position that I

1011
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: really they need to get a corner in this top

1012
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: one hundred, and they need to find a linebacker. Those

1013
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: are like the two that I really think they need

1014
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: to hit. And you know, everything else you just kind

1015
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: of let it fall how it falls. But those are

1016
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: the two. YEA, So Parsons, you guys would would you

1017
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: guys feel comfortable? No, Nick, you've already said it would

1018
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: feel comfortable at ten taking Parsons would, I wouldn't like it?

1019
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: It would what? Uh? Well? And that's the big debate is,

1020
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you're drafting a linebacker that high,

1021
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: he needs to be to rushed the passer and Parsons can,

1022
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: but he seems like a projection. He's raw, he didn't

1023
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: play last year. His coverage needs some work, like he's

1024
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: not this elite coverage linebacker, at least not right now.

1025
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: And is he good enough at rushing the passer that

1026
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: that makes up for it? Basically? And how are you

1027
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: deploying all of that? Because a guy who rushes the

1028
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: passer who doesn't cover that well describes somebody that's already here.

1029
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought you were talking about somebody who

1030
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: was already so the and a lot of people say

1031
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: the comp for Michael Parsons is pre injury Jalen Smith,

1032
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: which is awfully enticing. Yeah, but there's just pre injury

1033
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: that's that's really enticing. There's more valuable positions that like.

1034
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: I just think I think a lockdown corner who's good

1035
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: at his job is more valuable than that player in

1036
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: my opinion, at ten, if they trade back, I'd be

1037
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: happy to draft Michael Parsons, but not at ten. I

1038
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: want a linebacker within the first three picks that they have,

1039
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: and I rate linebacker at number ten as far as

1040
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: need I mean, right now, in my eyes, we got nothing.

1041
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: There's a guy I want a bench. There is a

1042
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: guy that's injured and we don't know how he's gonna

1043
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: return as far as health why so other than that,

1044
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: we're kind of left with thou much there. So that's

1045
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: a ten for me, absolutely, I think a big thing too.

1046
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: And I don't think Nick's crazy at all for liking

1047
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, but one of my favorite way for other things,

1048
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: but maybe not for that well, yeah, fair, but one

1049
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: of my favorite aspects of this draft is there seems

1050
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: to be a big sweet spot for linebackers on Day two,

1051
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: like starting at the end of the first and going

1052
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: until pick fifty or sixty. Like Nick Bolton out of

1053
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Missouri is a guy I like a lot. Ohio State

1054
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: has a couple of guys, Baron Browning and Pete Werner LSU.

1055
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: We've talked about Jabril Cox, who is very good in coverage.

1056
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: Alabama's Dylan Moses Zaven Collins out of Tulsa's more of

1057
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: a first round guy. But again maybe if you trade back.

1058
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: So I just think there's a variety of ways you

1059
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: can hit this without spending the tenth overall pick, which

1060
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: is another reason why I'm like, well, why draft Parsons

1061
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: if I can get Baron Browning later? And do you

1062
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: see a huge as is there a big gap between

1063
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Parsons and some of those guys you just names, And

1064
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: is that gap as big as say those top two

1065
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and then the next set of guys. That's a

1066
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: really interesting question, I think. I mean, if Parsons is

1067
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: what everybody thinks he can be, then there probably is

1068
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: a big gap. But again it's a projection whereas you know,

1069
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: I go back to Anthony Hitchins all the time, where

1070
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: which Baron Browning is a much better athlete than Anthony Hitchins.

1071
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: But like, just give me the plug and play guy

1072
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: who can do what I need him to do, who

1073
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a freak show. And that's and

1074
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: again I talk about this a lot. Trayvon Diggs was

1075
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: arguably would y'all say he was the best corner on

1076
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: this team? Last year? He struggled a lot, did he not? Yeah?

1077
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think he wasn't better than Cheeto,

1078
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: But you didn't play much, Okay, But point like, Trayvon Diggs,

1079
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: by all accounts, had a very successful season leads. But

1080
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: and that's that's what you're get. I think the learning

1081
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: curved cornerback is really steep, and if you're trying to

1082
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: improve that, I would I'd much rather just pull the

1083
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: trigger at ten than take my chances later. It's true,

1084
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: all right, So we're talking about the quarterback position. My

1085
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: assumption is we all agree that is a top notch

1086
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 1: need for the Cowboys. And give me a few names, Dave,

1087
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: if we got beyond that first round. Obviously we all

1088
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: think that those guys are in the mix. But give

1089
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: me some names. He had a lower, second, third round

1090
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: picks that could be fits for the Cowboys at cornerback. Okay, um,

1091
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: well it's the Cowboys, so you got you gotta keep

1092
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: your eye on Caleb farl He was He was arguable,

1093
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: he was arguably the best corner in this class. We'll

1094
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: see how far he falls. We know Jerry Jones is

1095
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: not afraid to pull the trigger on that type of guy.

1096
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: So he's What was the surgery that he had to have.

1097
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: He had a back surgery, but the list is pretty long. Honestly,

1098
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: it was similar. It's a similar back surgery to what

1099
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: Romo had in the middle of the season a couple

1100
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: of years ago or a few years ago. It wasn't

1101
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: like her needed disc surgery. It's like when they shave

1102
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: off a little bit. Sounds terrible. They shaved off for

1103
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: shooting protrusion on his spine. That was like messing with

1104
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: his nerves. But like players have done that in the

1105
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: middle of the season and played so how alone, like

1106
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: I think Romo did. He came back and played a

1107
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: few if the report going around right now is that

1108
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: he played the entire twenty nineteen season and was all

1109
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: conference with sciatic nerve pain down his leg because he's

1110
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: that's not pleasant. I know. Can you cover hu Leo Jones?

1111
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: That's what we need, not at this point in my life.

1112
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: But maybe he's he's gonna be. I think that. I

1113
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: think the world of Caleb Farley if he's healthy. But

1114
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: the rap sheet scares the crap out of me. Um,

1115
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: oh really that's a coward. Well, I'm talking the health

1116
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: rap sheet. I should say no, no, no no, no, no,

1117
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: no no no, I'm sorry, I meant the medical list. Um.

1118
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: There's two guys out of Georgia that I think you

1119
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: should know, Eric Stoates Stokes and Tyson Campbell. I'd like

1120
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: to think one of them could be there at forty

1121
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: four if he ought to. Melafon Wu big Big. When

1122
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: I see big DBS with dan Quinn's history, I think of,

1123
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, the guys in Seattle, so can't rule that out.

1124
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden is a guy that I'm intrigued by because

1125
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: we know they don't like small guys. He's like five nine,

1126
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: five ten, but he's very intriguing. He could probably play safety,

1127
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: he could play in the slot. He came out of Washington,

1128
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: which their track record with DBS speaks for itself. I

1129
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: would love to draft him, but I don't trust that

1130
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would. But he's definitely a name that I

1131
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: think you should know. Keith Taylor also out of Washington.

1132
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: He's a later on guy, but he's like six two

1133
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: sixty three, so that's intriguing to me. But there are

1134
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: definitely guys you can find if you don't draft one

1135
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: of the big two. But I'd rather just get it

1136
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: out of the way for the sake of time. Do

1137
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: the same thing for me for the safety position, because

1138
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: I think we all agree safety as an issue. I

1139
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: want to know where can you find where can you

1140
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: find the best safety in this draft? And then tell

1141
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: me a few other names. I put it at an eight.

1142
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: It's not a top heavy safety class. Travon mary got

1143
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: a TCU A is far and away seen as the best.

1144
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: He's probably a late first rounder. If they love him,

1145
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: maybe they trade up for And then there's a bunch

1146
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: of Day two guys that intrigued me. Dan Quinn went

1147
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: to Oregon to scoutch Avon Holland that's probably like a

1148
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: round two guy. A name that I think you should know.

1149
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 1: Richie Grant out of UCF really impressed at the Senior Bowl.

1150
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: People love him. He's a ballhawk Jamar Johnson out of Indiana,

1151
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: And then again this is just me being stupid, but

1152
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: divine Diablo Virginia Tech. He's a six three two fifteen safety, linebacker,

1153
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: hybrid guy. And I just keep thinking about the fact

1154
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: that Cam Chancellor went to Virginia Tech two and I'm like,

1155
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: maybe dan Quinn likes these big thumper, strong safety types.

1156
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: So those are the names that I wrote down. I

1157
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: think they should have a good shot at some guys

1158
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: on Day two if that's what they want to do. Okay,

1159
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: before we end this show, I want to go around

1160
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: the table and I want you guys to tell me

1161
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: and this is not what you think they're gonna do.

1162
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: It is what you hope happens tomorrow night. With the

1163
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: first round pick, who do you who do you want

1164
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to select with that pick? Nicholas Starring, I'd

1165
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: said Parson. I think he's a guy that comes right

1166
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: in and plays um a linebacker. If if they don't

1167
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: do that, and they they're hell been on a corner,

1168
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: I would take Horn. I like Horn over certain from

1169
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: what I've seen, I think he's he's a dog, and

1170
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: I think this team needs it. I think he's proved.

1171
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: I think if you count the best players in the

1172
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: last ten years at Alabama, I think Certan is probably

1173
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: in the teams. I think at South Carolina, I think

1174
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: it's Clowney and then you know, maybe another guy, maybe

1175
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Ken Law and Horn. I just think he doesn't have

1176
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot of great guys around him, and he gets

1177
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: it done. And the fact that he went up against

1178
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: Pitts shows he's not afraid to do it. Parsons are

1179
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Horn for me. Okay, amber Um, I don't you know.

1180
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned I'd really want a linebacker, but I haven't.

1181
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't really know much about any of these linebackers

1182
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: on here, but the one guy that I would want

1183
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: it is Horn because aside from the talent that Nick

1184
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: just described, I liked his interview that he with the Cowboys.

1185
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't just watching him and the things that he

1186
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: said and how he said it, you know, something about

1187
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: his personality and the way he responded to some questions

1188
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: attracted me more towards to him. So I think he

1189
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: would be a good fit here, and the Cowboys obviously

1190
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: need a corner, so someone that can come in and

1191
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: step in right away, and I think he would be

1192
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: a guy. I wouldn't be mad at that, I know,

1193
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: and I stand by what I said, like I would

1194
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: they should at least consider drafting Waddle, Like if you

1195
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: won't even consider it, then you're not doing your job

1196
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: the right way. But I don't think that'll happen. At

1197
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't really think it

1198
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: should happen. I would draft I think it'll be Horner Certan.

1199
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: I think one of them will be there. I would

1200
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: draft Patrick Certan. He just strikes me as I think.

1201
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: I think people have fatigue with him because we've known

1202
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: he was going to be one of the best corners

1203
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: in the class since October and you know, he's been

1204
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: in every mock draft that entire time. I think people

1205
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: are just bored of talking about him. But he showed

1206
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: up at Alabama, which is the pinnacle of college foot ball,

1207
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: and started from the get He was a three year

1208
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: starter for the true freshman. Impressive for Nick Saban. Nick

1209
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Saban is a dB guru. I think he knows what

1210
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: he's looking at, and I know, you know, some of

1211
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: their corners haven't worked out. I don't care about that

1212
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: he's got the NFL, you know, bloodlines. He did it

1213
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: at a high level at the best program in the country.

1214
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal that he's already

1215
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: played with Treyvon Diggs. But it doesn't hurt, Like, I mean,

1216
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: that's nice to have. And I just think he's the classic,

1217
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Like his floor is so high, Like he might not

1218
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: ever be Champ Bailey, but I can't imagine him busting

1219
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: whereas I think, which I like jac Horn a lot,

1220
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot like there's a little

1221
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: bit more risk there. I'm not sure he's sure of

1222
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: a thing, So just give me the sure thing corner.

1223
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: Think he can step in and start right away and

1224
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: be good for you, And I have no problems with that. Yeah,

1225
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. This is a draft. I really

1226
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys can mess this up. If you

1227
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: look at those five quarterbacks, and let's assume all five

1228
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks go in the top nine, then basically

1229
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have to choose the best person on their board,

1230
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: Pitts Horns or ten Slater and sewell, can you really

1231
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: mess that up? Like, I just don't think they can

1232
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: mess this up. Personally, I would like them to see

1233
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: them take one of the two cornerbacks. But I will

1234
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: say this, if you take any one of those five,

1235
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: I feel happy coming out of the first round because

1236
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: I feel like the Cowboys will have addressed a need

1237
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: and in their opinion, they got the best player on

1238
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: the board at that time. So I take either of

1239
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: those five guys. I think Jerry would hope that there's

1240
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: only four quarterbacks taken and that there's a fifth one

1241
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: sitting there at see if you could trade up, so Jerry,

1242
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: Jerry wants the phone to rank. He basically said that yesterday.

1243
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: That's when I get worried. And the reason why I

1244
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: get worried is because I want one of those five players.

1245
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: The likelihood that I trade down, especially if I'm trading down,

1246
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: say to fifteen, sixteen seventeen, the likely I'm gonna get

1247
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: one of those five players is now gone. I want

1248
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: one of those five players because I think one of

1249
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: those five players, Like I said, I think they will

1250
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: be good players from standpoint in need. They will also

1251
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: be the best players available at that time. And I

1252
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: don't know if the guy you get later is going

1253
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: to be as good as those guys. That's what makes

1254
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: this all. I love the draft. I love the draft

1255
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: like some people roll their eyes out of it. I

1256
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: don't care because I'm sitting here like Patrick Certain would

1257
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: be really great. But if you told me I could

1258
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: get Micah Parsons or maybe even jac Horne at fifteen

1259
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: and then have pick forty six from New England, Horn

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Speaker 1: and Certain, there's no way I think they're there fifty.

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Speaker 1: I could be you oversimplified. I think what it was

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Speaker 1: going to be selected before the Cowboys. Personally it's possible, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's a big risk. I'm not taking any risk

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Speaker 1: after her last season. What we saw last season. You

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Speaker 1: should not have the luxury of making any traits. You

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Speaker 1: need your pick, you need to stay. You want as

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Speaker 1: many players to help as possible. Right, they're trying to know, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I get so let's add another pick and still get

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Speaker 1: a good guys. I don't like the risk of expecting

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Speaker 1: a guy to still be available at a certain spot.

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Speaker 1: Somebody to look at it. You can also say this

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Speaker 1: team needs everybody and so there'll be a good one.

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Speaker 1: Don't rule this part out too. When you're talking about

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Speaker 1: trading down, you don't have edge Rusher like up there high,

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Speaker 1: but there's teams that might because they want an edge

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Speaker 1: rusher so bad. Don't be surprised if the curveball in

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen is a pass rusher that you're not expecting.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it before. The Raiders did it whack with

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Speaker 1: the third pick a few years ago. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: this guy, like, whoa really? I mean, I remember way

1281
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Speaker 1: back when Freeny got picked, way back when Freenie got picked.

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Speaker 1: He was not a guy you. But pass rushers are

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Speaker 1: valued higher. They might throw some a curve into this

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Speaker 1: and I don't. You're not unique, and I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about you specifically, but people are like, he won't be there.

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Speaker 1: They're like, he won't be there at sixteen. And then

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Speaker 1: a guy that nobody's talking about, like Jalen Phillips goes

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Speaker 1: in the top to Cleveland Farrell blew everybody like nobody

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Speaker 1: saw that. It happens every year. You never and people

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Speaker 1: fall every year. I get that, So I tend to

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Speaker 1: agree with you, but you never know once these because

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Speaker 1: they all have That's one thing I love about it too,

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Speaker 1: Like they all have such drastically of different opinions, Like

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys hate a guy that's gonna get drafted in

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen. They're like, okay, went in the first round,

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Speaker 1: or you know, they'll tell us on Friday night that

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Speaker 1: the guy they drafted at forty four was their eighteen player.

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Speaker 1: So that's what makes it fun. So you never know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to show. Okay, thank you, Ambers, just

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Speaker 1: like give me can I get ten all pros? Just

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Speaker 1: give me ten all pros and all on the defense? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the deeps. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. We'll tell you what happened

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Speaker 1: with the draft. We'll give you a breakdown from our

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Speaker 1: points of views on the picks the Cowboys. Will make

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Speaker 1: make sure you check out all of our covers this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We'll have the Draft Show going live. It'll start up

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at six thirty pm Central Time. It'll run throughout

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Speaker 1: the entire draft days one, two, and three, so make

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Speaker 1: sure you check that out. We'll also have lots of content.

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Speaker 1: We'll have the secret audio of the player being selected

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Speaker 1: and Jerry called in the player to tell them they've

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Speaker 1: been selected. We've got a lot of cool stuff that

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Speaker 1: we'll have for you guys, So make sure you check

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Speaker 1: it all out on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Until then,

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