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Speaker 1: Dak didn't play that well tonight. The receivers felt like

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Speaker 2: Right, it just is.

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Speaker 1: Obviously VIC would would be on board with it, but

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Speaker 1: the Eagles need pass rush. They just convinced Brandon Graham

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Speaker 1: to come out of retirement. They trade for him. How

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Speaker 1: he treats football like GM's treat baseball teams right, Most

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Speaker 1: gms in the NFL do not operate this way.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Is it because their coaches aren't huge believers in constant change?

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Speaker 1: Is it because they don't have the kahonus? Is it

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Speaker 1: because their owner limits their ability to trade assets? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, But Howie, who has more juice than any

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Speaker 1: upgrading his team, and if you're a fan, you can't

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Speaker 1: ask for anything more. They signed in.

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Speaker 2: In March this year during free agency.

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Speaker 1: A couple days after the start, they signed tight end

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Speaker 1: for Carter the dB from the Jets that Joe Douglass

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Speaker 1: once drafted, on top of trading for Jay Xander all

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Speaker 1: He is just constantly making moves. It is never tolerated

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Speaker 1: like we're good.

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Speaker 2: They do not think like that, how can we upgrade?

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Speaker 2: What do we have to do?

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Speaker 1: And they're just coming off a Super Bowl. It would

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Speaker 1: be easy to be like, oh, it might not be

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Speaker 2: Let's just see what happens.

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Speaker 1: And this gets back to the expectation and the standard

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Speaker 1: that's set by the owner because he's the one that

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Speaker 1: green lights all of this. So when you see a

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Speaker 1: lot of these other teams unwilling to ever do anything

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Speaker 1: or not making moves when they should, it's an organizational

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Speaker 1: philosophy and how he has been empowered. And here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing, how he doesn't have to. He has to

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Speaker 1: work with the coaching staff, right obviously like Nick and

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Speaker 1: the coordinators, but the end of the day, he's the

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Speaker 1: boss when it comes to the roster. That is not

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Speaker 1: the case for most of these teams like John Lynch

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Speaker 1: just can't do that right less sneed just can't do that,

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Speaker 1: say no, I'm not really feeling that it's not gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: even if it would be the right move. Because personnel

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Speaker 1: Even though, especially when you work in the office, you're

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Speaker 1: daily basis in the meeting rooms. There is almost a

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Speaker 1: detachment from the players. That can be healthy and help

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Speaker 1: you see the big picture.

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Speaker 2: Where's heart.

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Speaker 1: If you're a position coach, your relationship with an individual

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Speaker 1: not gonna work out, because that is always being asked

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: And think about this.

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Speaker 1: When you watch Jerry Jones today roaming around that sideline

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Speaker 2: Smith. That's there. How he roseman?

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Speaker 1: So how is Jerry Jones? Who's a great businessman. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if you want, you know, to strike oil

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Speaker 1: want Jerry to be the guy. But if I'm building

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Speaker 1: talked about.

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Speaker 2: This for the last couple of years with Jerry.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Jerry, remember a couple of years ago, he's like,

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Speaker 1: we're just we're gonna make a big move and then

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Speaker 1: nothing happened. So he's competing against Howie Roseman. That's his competition.

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Speaker 1: Like there, it's think of the advantage Jeffrey Lewy has.

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Speaker 1: He's not doing any of that yet that Jerry has

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Speaker 1: to sign off on everything because he's the general manager

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Speaker 1: and he's adamant. I'm never giving that up. Think of

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Speaker 1: the disadvantage The Cowboys are at that. Ever since Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Lury has inserted Howie in the full power once he

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and definitely beyond because that's how they operate,

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys just never quite know what to do.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, they're given CD and DAK

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Speaker 1: unlimited money. This year they trade Micah Parsons And I'm

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Speaker 1: not against any of these moves in a vacuum. I

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Speaker 1: think they gave DAK a little too much money, but regardless,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they view the team building prospect

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Speaker 1: or process and just the philosophical belief and the ability

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Speaker 2: I see it right now.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago the San Fransco Giants were about to

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Speaker 1: years later they don't have a snowballs chance in hell

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Speaker 1: because they're fucking with the Dodgers. I love Buster Posey,

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Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite players. Ever, how is he

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Speaker 1: Hint, he can't.

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Speaker 2: It's not a fair fight.

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Speaker 1: Just like the Cowboys versus the Eagles in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: seven Dash present. It's just not a fair fight. And

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Speaker 1: it starts with Howie speaking of another guy. It's just

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Speaker 1: pretty dialed. I was thinking about this today actually, before we.

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Speaker 2: Dive into John Schneider.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking watching that game last night which I

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Speaker 1: of their franchise forever, because they not only got multiple

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Speaker 1: Boie Mafe, who actually I was reading might get traded

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Speaker 1: tomorrow to then use to get a bigger trade. I

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Speaker 1: could see them sniffing around on Max Crosby, to be honestly,

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Speaker 1: but I just think John Schneider's trade of Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: is might be as important.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I guess drafting Russell Wilson help them win a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: so they'd have to win a super Bowl. So that's

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Speaker 1: that personnel moves is as important as any John's ever made.

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Speaker 1: But you could say the move of trading him because

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Speaker 1: Wilson is a worse player than guys that we constantly,

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Speaker 1: you know, rip on their contract and their status like

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Speaker 1: just the first round picks, it's the clearing up of

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. That move was a catalyst for the Seattle

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Speaker 1: team we're seeing now, and I think sometimes and that's

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Speaker 1: a good example of.

648
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: You got to make bold moves.

649
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: And when he made that trade, we didn't know.

650
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: Russell was bad yet.

651
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: I thought that was a type move that was going

652
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: to get everyone fired, and it did. It just turned

653
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: out it was everyone in Denver except the GM who

654
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: somehow survived and is now Sean Payn's right hand man,

655
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: but every other coaching staff for the coaching staff got canned.

656
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: So I just I don't think we spend enough time

657
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: talking and thinking about the moment that John Schneider traded

658
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because it just changed the course of their

659
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: franchise and they went with Gino Smith and now they

660
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: have Sam Darnold, who is just one of the best

661
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. So I just think Seattle, this

662
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Seattle and Rams thing. I mean, if Seattle plays Arizona

663
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: this week, who obviously is coming off a road Monday

664
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: night game, so they're gonna get back. I mean, they

665
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Speaker 1: probably won't land at Arizona till three or four in

666
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: the morning, and the Rams are a favored, are favored

667
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers in Levi's obviously the forty

668
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: nine ers lost another guy today, so I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot.

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00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: And I think Eagles Packers.

671
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Speaker 1: I haven't even looked at the schedule yet, but I

672
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: think Eagles Packers this week, so or maybe maybe that's next.

673
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Week, but keep an eye on that.

674
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself here. Other than that, we

675
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: did have Tucker Craft towards ACL which is a massive

676
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: blow for the Green Bay Packers. That's one of those

677
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: that's like, I don't know if you overcome now. I

678
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: think when you look around the league, a lot of

679
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: guys have gotten hurt, but that one that's a crippling loss.

680
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: And I get a lot of DMS obviously for the

681
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: mail Bag, and Packers have a lot of fans. It

682
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: does feel like there's some momentum and some negativity surrounding

683
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Lafloor with the Green Bay game, or excuse me, the

684
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Browns game and the Carolina game. Those are type games

685
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: you lose that if you get bounced in the first round,

686
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: can cost you your job. And there's been a lot

687
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: of pressure on Matt Lafleour. Even the new president, Carmon

688
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: Policy's son Ed talked about it.

689
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: Like, listen, this is a big year for these guys,

690
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: right they're in.

691
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: This is when you would get your contract extended at

692
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: the end of this year. So once you make that

693
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: move for Micah Parsons, the pressure is on. And the

694
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: games like that are ones that lose you a lot

695
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: of equity and lose you a lot of equity fast.

696
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers drafted Mikel Williams from Georgia. Just

697
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: this massive defensive lineman. He's probably ideally like a pass

698
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: rushing interior defensive lineman. He's not a great edge rusher,

699
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: but he's just he's a beast. He's like six five,

700
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety eighty pounds long arms.

701
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: He should be a really high end starter in the NFL.

702
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever gonna be like an

703
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: elite player, but you watch guys like Buckner and Armstead

704
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: and Kalais Campbell like he's that type hybrid body type

705
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: that should just be an impact. He was a five

706
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: star Blue Chipper towards ACL today or I guess yesterday,

707
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers kind of knew it. Kyle

708
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of alluded to it yesterday. I just don't think

709
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: we've ever seen anything like this, you know, the amount

710
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: of injuries, I mean, perdy, Kyle admitted not only is

711
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: a turf toe, which we've already known, but it's not

712
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: only not improving, like he's not good to go, and

713
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: this is not something that's ever gonna get better.

714
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a chance we just brock Purty.

715
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: They gave one hundred and eighty million dollars guaranteed, and

716
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna start two games for the season.

717
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: That's that's on the table.

718
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, George Kittle missed a huge chunk of the

719
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: game or the season. After Game one. All their offensive

720
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: linemen are banged up, and defensively, I mean Bosa's towards ACL,

721
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Michael Williams towards ACL, Fred Warner's ankle shattered. It's like,

722
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I just don't I think it's borderlined insane.

723
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: They're six and three.

724
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: It does feel like a little house of cards, and

725
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: they're in a really, really tough spot this weekend against

726
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: the Ramps. And that's why you know this trade deadline,

727
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: which if you're listening to this on in the afternoon,

728
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: has probably already passed.

729
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: I think you have to be very honest.

730
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: With yourself, right, how good you are, because there are

731
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: always going to be trades. Like, if you are willing

732
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: to give up a high enough pick, you can pull

733
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: off a lot of players in the NFL. Right, But

734
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: if you give a second round pick and then all

735
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden you miss that seventh seed and that

736
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: pick is pick seventeen, well, now that's a pretty high

737
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: second round pick. You know. The Washington Commanders are a

738
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: good example. I commended Adam Peters for doing this because

739
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of good players in free agency,

740
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: and he didn't want to use his free agency money,

741
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: which he had a lot of, to overpay guys because

742
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do in free agency, so

743
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: he used draft capital to buy guys that were already

744
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: under contract. Deebo Samuel fifteen million dollars fifth round pick,

745
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil, You get my starting left tackle. I give

746
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: up a third in twenty twenty five. He gave up

747
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: a second in twenty twenty six, which obviously you got

748
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: to pay a lot for starting left tackle who's a

749
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: good player, and a.

750
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: Pick in a year.

751
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: Like if I trade you a twenty twenty six second

752
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: round pick in February of twenty twenty five, that pick

753
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: is valued less because it's a year away, so on

754
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: the value chart, it's typically a round lower. Right, Like

755
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: if I give you a third round pick in a

756
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: couple of years, I don't view that as the same

757
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: as a third round pick. Now, it's like time value money.

758
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: The problem for Washington is if you win four or

759
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: five games, which is clearly on the table after some

760
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: of their injuries and obviously Jayden being out for who

761
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: knows maybe the.

762
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Rest of the season.

763
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: That pick could be like pick thirty seven. And at

764
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: the time when you pull those off, you just pray

765
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: you're not in those situations, but sometimes you are. It's

766
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: like when they traded for Matt Stafford and had to

767
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: give up some first round picks, and then a year

768
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: later they had a bunch of injuries and that pick

769
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: was a top ten pick, and the Detroit Lions. We're

770
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: able to use that to get guys like Jamiir Gibbs

771
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: and Sam Laporta.

772
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Right.

773
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you get a high pick, ask Seattle and

774
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: that team sucks, like the Denver Broncos you get Devin

775
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Witherspoon at pick five. So it's the same with like

776
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: giving up a second round pick. Well, if you suck

777
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: that second round pick instead of being picked fifty, is

778
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: now pick thirty six, and google some of the guys

779
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: that go in the thirties. Sometimes it's Hall of Famers.

780
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: You get high end starters there. So it's really really risky,

781
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people go back and

782
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: forth and that's where I think, Howie, once you've won

783
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: a couple of Super Bowls, you know, Belichick got to

784
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: the point where it's like he didn't care.

785
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: He just did.

786
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: And for a long time when he had Brady, most

787
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: stuff kind of worked. And if it didn't work, whatever,

788
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: we just pivoted. How he's kind of in that mole too.

789
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: It's like the equity speaks for itself. Just won the

790
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty seventeen. We went to another one a

791
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: couple years ago. Like I've proven I know what I'm doing.

792
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: It's football. These are human beings. I'm gonna miss on some.

793
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna make full speed, fucking decisions.

794
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Some people throughout the league, like don't have the equity

795
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: to just give up a second and third round pick

796
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: because if it does blow up in their face, then

797
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: their asses on.

798
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: The chop chopping block.

799
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: How he's not thinking about like job security doesn't even

800
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: cross his mind when he's just making me He's just

801
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: literally doing whatever it takes to try to help the

802
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: team become better. That's what Bill did for two decades,

803
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: and that enables you to actually operate from a position

804
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: of strength, because if you have conviction, you're like, yeah,

805
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I'll pay for that.

806
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: We need this.

807
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Where I think it's easier for other people to talk

808
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: yourself out of it's like, well I might need that

809
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: second round pick, and if this blows up in my

810
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: face and look like an idiot and the fans will

811
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: beyond me, and who knows, maybe I won't get a

812
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: contract extension in two years. So I think one thing

813
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating is like, does any player.

814
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 2: Go for a second round pick?

815
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: Because if we get a guy of that level that

816
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: that would be pretty eye opening. I would guess no.

817
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: You know, Jalen Phillips for a third round pick feels

818
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: right about the line. Every once in a while, though,

819
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: you get like Christian McCaffrey's been traded for a second,

820
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: a third, and a fourth round pick.

821
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: Right.

822
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: Uh. If tomorrow someone's traded for Jalen Wattle, they gave

823
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: up a second round pick, which I think sometimes with

824
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: wide receivers you're like, well, we would like him, he's

825
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: under contract, but.

826
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: Couldn't I find a guy in the draft in the

827
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: second round who can do that for way cheaper?

828
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: And I think these are the conversations you're constantly having

829
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: with you so trying to balance the future. And now,

830
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you this, the head coach, the coordinators,

831
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: your star players, all they care about is the next

832
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: couple of months. They don't give a shit about the draft.

833
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: There's not most these coaches haven't watched a snap of

834
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: college football, not a snap because on Saturday mornings, they're

835
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: either traveling with the team, you know, and you're just

836
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: not really watching much. Right you're traveling, you're an airplane.

837
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: You get down, you have some meetings, you eat, you

838
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: go to bed, and if you're at home, you do

839
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: some walkthroughs in the morning, you go home, you spend

840
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: time with your family because you haven't seen them literally

841
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: all week. So that they got no clue that they

842
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: don't know Ty Simpson from Bart Simpson, but your front

843
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: office does. And that's where their influence and their juice

844
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: can help these guys, like, hey, there's a loaded class

845
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, and you know, if this administration we're

846
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. I think we can hold off on that.

847
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: And that's where you have to have a good communication

848
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: and a good rapport with the guy you work with,

849
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: because sometimes you got to talk them off the ledge,

850
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: like I really need this guy It's like, I don't

851
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: know if that's the best idea. I don't know if

852
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: that's the best idea, and you never know. I mean

853
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: that's part of you know, doing deals is some work

854
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: out and some are just a major flop and absolutely

855
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: disastrous when you factor in compensation, production, everything combined. But

856
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: I think we're really going to see in the next

857
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, twelve hours at least from recording this. It's

858
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: ten fifteen a night. You know who thinks they're really good?

859
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of teams will get cold

860
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: feet because it's so wide open right now? Can I

861
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: tell you about my friends at Bubb's Natural. I've been

862
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,440
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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

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Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those DMS questions answered here on the show.

881
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: Again at John Middlecoff firing the DMS questions on the show.

882
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: We'll start with cal. After the Pats grinded out a

883
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: win by one point against Atlanta, the Patriots posted their

884
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: classic player interview to YouTube shortly after the game, where

885
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: they spoke to Pop, Douglas Diggs, Chasing mccollins, and more guys.

886
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: These postgame interviews have been the most revealing piece of

887
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: evidence for Mike Vrabel to be Coach of the Year.

888
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: You watched these guys talk about each other and the team,

889
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: and they truly like one another and love coming to

890
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: work under Vrabel. Couple that with the team being the

891
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: opposite under Mayo and the end of the Belichick era,

892
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: and I think he has a compelling case. It's really

893
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: amazing how talented Vrabel is and how he can pull

894
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: this off so fast. So is Vrabel the coach of

895
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: the year leader in the clubhouse? Well, I do think

896
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: he inherited a complete you know what, right, They have

897
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: been really bad now for several years, and from Ilicheck

898
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: those last couple of years to Mayo and the dysfunction

899
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: last year pretty embarrassing for a franchise that was a

900
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: dynasty for twenty years. So it's not like he was well,

901
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: there were some positives, No, there was a lot of negatives.

902
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: He'd errored a couple players right in Christian Gonzales obviously

903
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback, but a lot of it was new coaching staff.

904
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Tear this thing down to the studs, add a bunch

905
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: of dudes in free agency, in the draft, and try

906
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: to kickstart this thing on the go schedule was a joke.

907
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: It's why anyone that falls football, you went, you know,

908
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: this team should win nine ten games now if they

909
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: win the division and win thirteen or fourteen, then I

910
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: have no problem voting for him. I will say what

911
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: he's done is remarkable. I would say what Shane Steichen

912
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: has done with Daniel Jones is pretty eye opening. Say

913
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: what Ben Johnson turning that joke of a franchise into

914
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: a team that's probably gonna have an over five hundred

915
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: record is pretty impressive. And listen when I say joking franchise,

916
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm talking about like the ownership and the

917
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: consistent chaos that happens with the Bears. Kyle Shanahan if

918
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: he wins ten to eleven games with a roster full

919
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: of practice squad guys, so I think there's gonna be

920
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the mix. November and December

921
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: typically determine who wins that. But if you want to

922
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: vote for him, I'm on board. Why do people hate

923
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans so much? No bias, but we're easily

924
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: top three fan base in the league, and we're not

925
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: two or three passionate loyal and we actually know ball.

926
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: Yet it feels like everyone outside of Philly loves the

927
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: pyle on us. The funny part is when the Eagles

928
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: are bad or do something stupid, the number one. Haters

929
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: for the Eagles are their own fans. We hold our

930
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: own team more accountable than anyone. Do you think other

931
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: fan bases are just jealous of how invested we are.

932
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you guys definitely get a

933
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: bad rap.

934
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, having lived there for a couple of years,

935
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: I still have close friends in the organization and people

936
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: that still live there that don't work for the team.

937
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean, I I.

938
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: Think you have an sec level passion. It's a it's

939
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: a big sports city and the Eagles are King Kong.

940
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, and you guys obviously, you know, the Phillies

941
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: have been really good. The Sixers have disappointed a lot.

942
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't fall hockey enough to know about the Flyers,

943
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess it's

944
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to boo and something's going wrong.

945
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: It's like they just they're booing. It's weak too.

946
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: They just won the Super Bowl, so yeah, we just

947
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: had ten yards of offense.

948
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: We're supposed to cheer. What are we supposed to do?

949
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: I think gets back to throwing snowballs at Stanta Claus.

950
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: I think cheering Michael Irvin. But it's like I'm not

951
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: a huge proponent, and you know, believer in like spending

952
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: all my time and holding onto something that happened thirty

953
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: years ago. It's a guys twenty twenty five and they've

954
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. That place rocks. I think

955
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: you guys get a bad rap. You're intense. So are

956
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of places. If you went to Alabama, LSU,

957
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, these are intense environments. You

958
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: know they liked football a lot. Down by thirty one points,

959
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: was seven minutes left in the fourth quarter. It seems

960
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: insane to keep your franchise quarterback in the game, yet

961
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: that's exactly what the Commanders did, leading to Jaden daniels

962
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: horrendous injury. It also seems like most teams have their

963
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: starters and even quarterbacks out in almost these impossible to

964
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: overcome game situations. Is there a reason why many coaches

965
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: opt to keep valuable players in lose lose scenarios. That's

966
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: a good question. I would say football, and I mentioned

967
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: this on Sunday night when I recorded the podcast. Football

968
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: does not parallel basketball or baseball. In basketball, when you're

969
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: down forty, you just don't put.

970
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: Your starters back in the game.

971
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: In baseball, if a guy's getting shelled, you yank them.

972
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: In football, you kind of ride it out. And the

973
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: only way that you could be on the field is

974
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: going full go. There's no tanking, there's no going through

975
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the most and you're gonna get injured sometimes. So it's like,

976
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: I think it's easy to pile on, but no one

977
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: comes out in that situation. You look around the league

978
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: and all these blowouts, guys are in late. If that

979
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to Jayden, does Sam Darnold come out of

980
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: the game. So I didn't have a problem with him

981
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: being in the game because people are always in the game.

982
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: In football, there's not You don't even have enough offensive

983
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: linemen to pull out your entire unit. You only dress

984
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: five wide receivers, so guys just have to play. All

985
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: these other positions have to play. I think it's easy

986
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: to say, and I'm not saying you're saying this, but

987
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, play your backups. Well, there's not even

988
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: enough backups to yank all the starters out of the game,

989
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: so I and it's like, well, the backup would go,

990
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: especially if I'm a backup detackle or a backup tight end,

991
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Why play half the snaps anyway? So you need me

992
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: against the good teams as well, you need me in

993
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: the tight games as well. So I think it's pretty complicated.

994
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: It's just the nature of the sport. Football is a

995
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: lot different than you know, it's much more like hockey

996
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: in the sense of like if you're out there, it's

997
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: just it kind of is what it is. You know,

998
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: you got to be pretty dialed and you could argue, like,

999
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: why are we calling these plays right that put him

1000
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: in compromise situations?

1001
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: And I think Cliff would go those are his plays. So,

1002
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's a big part of his game. I

1003
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: would say, hey.

1004
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: Could we have been smarter of just calling some like

1005
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: quick passes than anything that would keep the ball in

1006
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: his hands? Probably, But you know I'm nitpicking it. It

1007
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: didn't bother me. Not the injury bothered me. That sucks,

1008
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: but it didn't bother me that he was in the game.

1009
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just welcome to the NFL. My question

1010
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: is this was Jordan Love anointed too early? He has

1011
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: good he was he had eight good games two years

1012
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: ago and since then has been very up and down,

1013
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: losing to the Browns and Panthers the same year. While

1014
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: he plays terribly is not a great look. What are

1015
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts on how legit he actually is. I understand

1016
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was struggling just a week ago.

1017
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: He shredded them.

1018
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: What he throw three hundred and fifty yards, multiple touchdowns

1019
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: and just dominated them. I mean it felt like for

1020
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: a second, it's like, God, is he gonna end the

1021
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: Tomlin era? Unofficially now they saved it against Daniel Jones,

1022
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: who was having an incredible season, and they made look terrible.

1023
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, their defense actually has some players

1024
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: because I just saw them against Daniel Jones absolutely punk them,

1025
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: and I saw Jordan Love shred them in the second half, So.

1026
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: You know there's one thing.

1027
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: It's like, Caleb has a lot of talent, right, bo

1028
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: Knicks has a lot of talent. It's like, can they

1029
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: do it consistently? That's a different question than you know.

1030
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Jordan Love.

1031
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: I've seen him play huge games against big time opponents,

1032
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: playoffs included, so you know it's there because it's literally

1033
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: happening in games. It's not even a projection. But last

1034
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: game is a good example. I mean everyone freaked out

1035
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: about the pass on fourth and seven or whatever. When

1036
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: he throw it across his body, that should have been picked.

1037
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: Even if the guy picks it because he was jumping,

1038
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: I think the wide receiver tackles them, so it wouldn't

1039
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: have been a pick six.

1040
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 2: But anytime you go.

1041
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: For it in these fourth down situations that there is

1042
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: no throw it away, right, there is no live to

1043
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: fight another down. This is the down. So I haven't

1044
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: heard the explanation from Lafloor on his thoughts on that decision,

1045
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: but like you kind of got to force feed something.

1046
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: That's part of going for it on anything that's not

1047
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: going to be a run on fourth down, and anything

1048
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: fourth and five and longer that you're gonna put in

1049
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: your quarterback's hands. Like he's got to throw it up there.

1050
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not defending him by any means on the pass.

1051
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: But like, what's he supposed to do? Just dirt it,

1052
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: throw it.

1053
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: Out of bounce. Now, if it was a pick six,

1054
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: I'd be a different problem. Something you are dead wrong about.

1055
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: You don't become a man when your dad dies, but

1056
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: rather when you first get that helpless newborn baby in

1057
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: your arms. Beside the grace of God, there is no

1058
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: greater blessing, so congrats and prayers for healthy baby and delivery.

1059
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate that question, given the.

1060
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Great Matt Walden has commented here on all the garbage

1061
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: narratives about Caleb Williams, and also given Walden wald Men

1062
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: is one of the great scouts currently alive. Will you

1063
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: please search your soul and ask yourself how much of

1064
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: your comments about Caleb boil down to the fact that

1065
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: you just don't like the guy. You know, It's funny,

1066
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: you're very emotionally invested. I appreciate the kind of words

1067
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: on the baby as well, but you're very emotionally invested

1068
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: on the Bears.

1069
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1070
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: There is zero emotion one way or the other. If

1071
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl, that'd be awesome. If they

1072
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: never won a game, it wouldn't impact.

1073
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: Me at all. I truly do not care.

1074
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: And all I've said about Caleb is like, the way

1075
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: that he plays is not sustainable to be a good player.

1076
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: It's why I I also hate oftentimes the word narrative.

1077
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: There's no narrative with Caleb. We just watch him play

1078
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: and go, Yeah, we were expecting more. He was a

1079
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. I was told he was one

1080
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: of the great prospects of all time, Stafford Luck Peyton.

1081
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: And I'm watching a guy that is in the teens.

1082
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: When he's good, he's twelve thirteen. When he's bad, he's

1083
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: closer like nineteen or twenty. And like yesterday, at points

1084
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: he was atrocious and other points he had guys that

1085
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: were open. But it's like, if you think I'm gonna

1086
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: throw the guy at parade after you beat Cincinnati, just

1087
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: like after you beat Dallas, it's just not gonna happen.

1088
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: It's like I put zero stock in bo Nick sliding

1089
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: up Dallas. I'm recording this part before Monday night. But like,

1090
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: you don't get credit slicing and dicing one of the

1091
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: worst defenses we've ever seen. But like he made some

1092
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: big time plays. He had the big play with his feet.

1093
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: The star of this team is the coach. So to me,

1094
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: if you're emotionally invested in the Bears, you should be like,

1095
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: we nailed this coach. So whether Caleb were or not,

1096
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: who cares. We will figure it out with Ben Johnson,

1097
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: and to me, that's all that matters. If he works out, great,

1098
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: But my style of quarterback either is not a guy

1099
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: that typically once he sees a read, starts just scrambling around,

1100
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how he plays, which I don't

1101
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: really like, you know, So he's not my style of quarterback.

1102
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: But if he becomes a star, cool, we'll talk about it.

1103
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, he doesn't. But everyone's the quote unquote

1104
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: narratives are just people watching him play and people like

1105
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: you that get so offended when people are like, they're

1106
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: not nice enough. He's a number one overall pick, so

1107
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: the standard's really high. He's told he was the greatest

1108
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: prospect in recent memory, a more physically gifted guy, even

1109
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: than Trevor Lawrence, who obviously everyone shits on who isn't

1110
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: good enough for guy being the number one overall pick

1111
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: got two hundred million dollars for another guy. He's a

1112
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: team right. He varies on a given week. He's the

1113
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: thirteenth best quarterback. Sometimes he's the eighteenth. That's kind of

1114
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: the world he lives in. When you're taking number one overall,

1115
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm expecting a high end starter. Just not the case now.

1116
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Caleb's in the second year. Tarrifvers however, many years in,

1117
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: so there's still room for growth. But I stand by

1118
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: what I say. I will be surprised if this marriage

1119
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: works long term. That doesn't mean you can't have an

1120
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: unreal year. Win ten games and Ben Johnson can.

1121
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: Be in the mix for Coach of the Year.

1122
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: That should be the headline, not like people aren't being

1123
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: nice enough to Caleb. I don't know, just stop scrambling

1124
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: around and making some of these dumb plays. If the

1125
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: Packers go one and done in the playoffs or miss

1126
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, is Lafleur fired after the end of this year?

1127
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: I think good is safe.

1128
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: Teams solidified, solidly built, can't even read. But Lafleur's lack

1129
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: of consistency has been concerning. Not being able to beat

1130
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: teams like the Browns and Panthers is unacceptable.

1131
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: Totally agree.

1132
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: You gotta win those games. I'd even say the Tivers

1133
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: Dallas a pretty bad. That letdown, you know, I would

1134
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: have said two weeks ago, just it was like, God,

1135
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna win thirteen games and the extension

1136
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: is inevitable. Then you see basically part two of the

1137
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: Browns game, and listen, the Browns have like an elite defense,

1138
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to score thirteen total points

1139
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. That one's tough to get out coached

1140
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: by Dave Canalis. It's like, come on, Matt, you want

1141
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: a huge extension and based on this previous success.

1142
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: We got to see more here, buddy.

1143
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: I have them as one of my teams to win

1144
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 1: the division. They're part of a big parlay that's kind

1145
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: of on life support a little bit. But I just

1146
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of pressure on them. There's

1147
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. I said this last night on Sunday.

1148
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: You can't come out and say like Thanksgiving, Halloween stupid.

1149
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: I hate it. I'm focused on winning a football game

1150
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: and then it'll lose to the Panthers.

1151
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Like that's come on, bro, either lighting up or if

1152
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be serious dominating. How do we know that

1153
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: Will Howard is in the future in Pittsburgh? Have you

1154
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: heard anything? Mike Tomlin or Arthur Smith have not texted

1155
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: me any updates on Will Howard. I would say anytime

1156
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: that you're a late round pick, you're not.

1157
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: Viewed as the future.

1158
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I would say that is just rule thumb. So if

1159
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: you're draft in the fifth, sixth, seventh round and is

1160
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: Will Howard hurt? Maybe that was Riley Leonard. I get

1161
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: those two guys mixed up a little bit. But when

1162
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: you're draft in the sixth or seventh round, no one

1163
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: in the organization views you as the future. Doesn't mean

1164
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: if you get your opportunity you can't run with it.

1165
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: We've seen guys perty Tom Brady, right, I mean Tony Romo,

1166
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, but no one views you as the future.

1167
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: No one in the league, obviously, anyone with the Steelers.

1168
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: Do you think Arch is gonna be? Check down, Charlie.

1169
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: He had some good passes yesterday, but I can't help

1170
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: but think.

1171
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: He's just a dude. I gotta give Arch some credit.

1172
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was exceptional against Vanderbilt. Now, I'm not

1173
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: exactly breaking down personnel for Vandy's defense, so I'm not

1174
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: gonna act like they're the best defense since you know,

1175
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's team three years ago or some.

1176
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: Of Saban's teams. Clearly they're not.

1177
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: But he annihilated them, and Vandy was the favorite coming

1178
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: into that game a lot of pressure. Arch has played

1179
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: well recently in some kind of weird games against lesser opponents,

1180
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: but that was easily just me watching as a fan

1181
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: of football. If he had looked like that throughout the season.

1182
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: I think we would be discussing him a lot differently,

1183
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: and and you know, one thing's gonna come up and

1184
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: people in the media and fans.

1185
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: Is like, he's just a first year starter. Give him time.

1186
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: Those days are done.

1187
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: You're getting paid seven million dollars. The expectations are really high.

1188
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: This goes back to Caleb. If Caleb was a third

1189
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: round pick, we would discuss him differently than the number

1190
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: one overall pick in a draft with a bunch of

1191
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, with Jayden Daniels, Drake May. I mean, bo

1192
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: Nix is going to be a starter on a playoff

1193
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: team back to back years. So it's just you're just

1194
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: held to a different standard, fair or not. And you

1195
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: could argue it's not fair, but as what's his name said,

1196
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: that's what the money's for. So no one cares.

1197
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 2: About your problems. The faster you realize that in life,

1198
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: I think, the easier it is to go.

1199
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: It's like, people just don't care about your problems. It's like, yeah,

1200
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: I know, so I don't expect them to. I actually

1201
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: saw Mike McDaniel say that because they asked him about

1202
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: what he thought about the GM getting fired. And you

1203
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: know what's his emotional and he's like, obviously all this

1204
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: stuff takes an emotional toll on you, But no one

1205
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: in this building, so.

1206
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: Anyone working for me gives a shit.

1207
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: No one cares. It's completely irrelevant. So you just put

1208
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: your head down and keep moving. It's like, yeah, that's

1209
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: kind of the way life works. A question for the bag,

1210
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: how legit are the Panthers? Seemed like we are dependent

1211
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: on one player and can only win one type way.

1212
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: But after beating the Cowboys and now the Packers, I

1213
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: wanted your opinion. I just assumed you guys were pretty

1214
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: bad on defense, but every time I looked up yesterday,

1215
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: you guys were holding them in the red zone, creating turnovers,

1216
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: just doing fun shit. I'd be lying if I was

1217
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: super dialed in when like you were on offense. To

1218
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: have some bold take on Bryce. I saw the stat

1219
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: line he threw for like one hundred yards. At one

1220
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: point in time, I was moving around volume on some

1221
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: of the four boxes. The TV they were.

1222
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: On was not on.

1223
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't even put volume on the if you make

1224
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: the smaller TV. I put the main games on the

1225
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: big TV. Yesterday that was like, you know, Pittsburgh, Indye,

1226
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: the Pats, actually Chicago Cincy, the Pats game, Indye Pit

1227
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: and Lions and Detroit I thought were pretty impactful games,

1228
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: and the Niners Giants. That kind of rotated between those

1229
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: five and then put a couple of random games on

1230
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: the right hand TV, which included because I assumed the

1231
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: Packers were gonna win. If you told me at the

1232
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: beginning of the day what the final score would have been,

1233
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: I would have been like thirty one to seventeen or

1234
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: something thirty one to thirteen. So every time you looked up,

1235
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: you just expected them to kind of hit.

1236
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: The gas and throttle them.

1237
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: But panthers a feisty that there's no dispute in that

1238
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: the red zone came on and I had the volume on.

1239
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: I might have misheard this, but Dowbdell has more rushing

1240
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: yards could have been all purpose yards, but pretty sure

1241
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: rushing yards over the last month than any player in

1242
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: the league, which kind of makes sense. I mean, he's

1243
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: he's had some massive games. McMillan's obviously been really really

1244
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: good for you guys, and listen, it does just feel

1245
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: like Carolinas just settled down a little bit and they

1246
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: feel a lot quieter, a lot less noisy. You know,

1247
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: I think they've benefited. Obviously, the Saints are going through

1248
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 1: a huge transition and the Atlanta dysfunction benefits them a lot.

1249
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: And when you suck that bad for a couple of years,

1250
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: you truly get to fly under the radar. And you're

1251
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: five and four, like you're in the wildcard mix. There's

1252
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: no dispute in that. If you just hover around five

1253
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: hundred till the middle of December, there's not that big

1254
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: a difference between going eight and nine and going ten

1255
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: and seven. I mean, you honestly could be talking three

1256
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: or four place in the course of a couple games. Obviously,

1257
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: it's a fumble recovery here, or dropped interception there, a

1258
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: block kick happening. Because it's the NFL, you playing a

1259
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: lot of games that are thirteen to sixteen. I would

1260
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: be pretty bullish on Dan Morgan and Canalis. Think they're

1261
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: just doing a solid job. There's no disputing that, and

1262
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: they're kind of like Bryce's has limitations. But you could

1263
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: always draft a quarterback this year too. Dolphins fan just

1264
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: got finished watching your reaction to the Dolphins Ravens and

1265
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: agree they have experienced and agree that an experienced defensive

1266
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: coach is perfect. If you were the GM, would you

1267
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: value experience or defense more? If it came down to it,

1268
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: would you go after Mike McCarthy or Chrish Shula for

1269
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: the Rams this offseason?

1270
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot. I think your organization needs more like

1271
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: a crazy, hard ass.

1272
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: You know, like whoever a younger version of this guy is.

1273
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: And listen, I mean you think he's like sixty three,

1274
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: sixty four, but like five ten years ago, like a

1275
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: guy like Rex Ryan. I'm trying to think of some

1276
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: other like defensive guys. It happens a lot in college,

1277
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, like Kirby Smart obviously Saban, I mean he's

1278
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: an outlier, but just like a hard ass, throwback defensive

1279
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: coach who's kind of no nonsense and discipline. I mean

1280
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: essentially Vrabel up in New England, whoever Vrabel is, which

1281
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: is obviously hard to find, but some version of that

1282
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: that is what Miami needs. It's not even about offense

1283
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: or defense. It's just kind of about a badass. You know.

1284
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: The Eagles once upon a time, like Andy was pretty

1285
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: like no nonsense early on in Philadelphia, right, and honestly,

1286
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of his philosophy. There's not much like bullshitting

1287
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: when it comes to football, like you're late. We got problems.

1288
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: You don't practice hard. We got problems. You're not taking

1289
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: meetings seriously, we got problems. Like you can be an

1290
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: offensive guy, like you can't fuck around with the forty

1291
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: nine ers, right, you're gonna have problems. Same thing with

1292
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: McVeigh that they have pretty high standards for.

1293
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: What is tolerated and what is not tolerated.

1294
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: And clearly with Mike feels like people are just walking

1295
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 1: all over him and that that's a problem. And that's

1296
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: why I lean defense, but you can get.

1297
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: I think Lafleur is.

1298
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: Kind of a tight ass, which you could argue backfire sometimes,

1299
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: but I think you kind of need something like that.

1300
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: Great content.

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: My question is is Buffalo looking in consistent up until

1302
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: they dominated the Chiefs? How much of that is the

1303
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: Bills turning themselves into the anti Chiefs and its transferable

1304
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: to the rest of the league. I just think there

1305
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: are certain things in life people really get up for,

1306
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: I mean really get up for it. I see it

1307
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: with you know, Maria and some of her friends. Some

1308
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: people like live to throw parties, whether that's baby showers,

1309
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: whether that's hosting dinners like, that's like the fuel. It

1310
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: gets them going. No different than we all know, you know,

1311
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: you know, like my mother in law or my mom

1312
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: or you know whoever, older people in your family that

1313
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: live for some of the holiday festivities because they get

1314
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: their family around, they get to see their kids. It's

1315
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: a really really it's like their super Bowl, you know,

1316
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving or Christmas, just like the Masters or the actual

1317
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl is my super Bowl. And then there are

1318
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: just opponents that.

1319
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: You don't need a raw ross speech.

1320
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: If you're Sean McDermott the week you're playing the Chiefs,

1321
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: you don't need to tell guys to get focused up

1322
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: and restart stuff at practice. Like I bet if you

1323
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: ask Kirby Smart, like you got a coach ard the

1324
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: weeks that you're playing Alabama or Texas or the SEC

1325
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: championship game, he'd say, no, the opponent does that itself.

1326
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: You think Ohio State has to like fire up the

1327
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: guys when they're gonna play Oregon, Indiana or Michigan. Of course,

1328
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: not where you're earn your money is when you're playing

1329
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, the Falcons on Monday Night. You're like, ay,

1330
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: the Falcons, I'm not taking it that seriously, you don't

1331
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 1: have a great week of practice. Why Because we're human beings.

1332
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 1: So whether you're a coach or whether you're a player,

1333
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: there's just a different level of focus with more on

1334
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: the line. If you say, hey, John, we have an advertiser.

1335
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 1: One guy is willing to give you ten thousand dollars,

1336
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: the other guys willing to give you five million dollars.

1337
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: Do you think I would approach both the same?

1338
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: How could you? It would be impossible. So I think

1339
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: the level in which and listen, they have played the

1340
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs really well in the playoffs as well. They match

1341
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: up well against them, Josh plays well against them. The

1342
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs are not their issue obviously they have been in

1343
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs because they haven't beaten them like you watch

1344
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: them play. The reason they haven't gotten the number one

1345
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: seed over the last couple of years is because of

1346
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: other opponents. You know, it's because blowing game like they

1347
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: did to the Patriots earlier this year. Atlanta, I mean,

1348
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: Atlanta's probably a seven win team, six win team. If

1349
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: that's the difference between you getting the one seed and not,

1350
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: that's killer man, that.

1351
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: That really is.

1352
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's much to say, besides, like, yeah,

1353
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: they just they get up for them and they match

1354
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 1: up well that they just feel comfortable playing them. A

1355
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 1: lot of people are uncomfortable playing Kansas City. The Bills

1356
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: clearly are not. Me and one of my military buddies

1357
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: have an ongoing debate, bet I want to know what

1358
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: side you'd be on. So we have one hundred dollars

1359
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: bet on who will win a Super Bowl first, Alan

1360
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: or Lamar. I'm on the Josh side.

1361
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1362
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: Well, I think with the Steelers winning that game, they

1363
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: can take it a little bit of a deep breath.

1364
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: The Ravens still have an uphill battle to go. I

1365
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: liked him a lot more if the Steelers would have

1366
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: lost the Colts all of a sudden, Pittsburgh looked like

1367
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh again. In you're five and three. You just got

1368
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: a little more breathing room for a team that's three

1369
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: and five. So it's still an uphill battle. They're probably

1370
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna need to sweep those games, which Pittsburgh has always

1371
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: played well against Baltimore and taking them out several times

1372
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 1: even when Baltimore's had really good teams. But the Buffalo

1373
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: bill still have the number one seed, opportunity in twenty

1374
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 1: twenty five. So if they get the number one overall,

1375
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: see and let's say the Ravens are either the four

1376
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 1: seed or somehow get the seven seed or miss the playoffs.

1377
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like the bills chances more this year.

1378
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: And we're just kind of living year to year because

1379
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: we see how fast things can change. So based on

1380
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: this year, I.

1381
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: Would go just the Bills.

1382
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: But two years ago, I said, when the Ravens had

1383
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: the home field advantage and they look like the best

1384
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: team in the league by a mile. I mean, they

1385
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 1: played the forty nine ers on Christmas, beat the shit

1386
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: out of them. It was like the Chiefs aren't beating

1387
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: this team.

1388
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: And then what happened? They lost?

1389
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: How is Mark Davis considered one of the worst owners

1390
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: in football, but he is the gold standard of owners

1391
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: in the WNBA. He has three titles, hired the best

1392
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: coach with the best players. Of course, comparing the NFL

1393
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: to the WNBA is apples and oranges, But doesn't it

1394
01:13:49,960 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: say something positive about the guy.

1395
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: He cares, he tries.

1396
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: I think in the WNBA one financially it's it's it's

1397
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: not even close to being comparable. What did the average

1398
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: player in the WNBA make a hundred grand I mean,

1399
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: I think you have a payroll of two hundred and

1400
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars, So mistakes hurt you more in basketball

1401
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: in general. I mean, I don't know much about the aces,

1402
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: but if you get a couple good players, your team's

1403
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: gonna be good. In football, like they have Brock Bowers,

1404
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: they have Max Crosby, they have Colton Miller, like they

1405
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: have other good players, and they've had other good players

1406
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: over the years. And it doesn't mean anything like it's

1407
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: about having a team. It's about having a coach and

1408
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: a GM that know what they're doing, which I believe

1409
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: they do now. But the roster's so shitty. The draft

1410
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: and free agency is so big. I mean, a couple

1411
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: of years ago they gave Wilkins from Miami one hundred

1412
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed basically, and two years later he's not

1413
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: even on the team. I didn't think he's in the league.

1414
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: So I think it's apples to oranges. I think it's

1415
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: like football is to backasketball. It's just not even comparable.

1416
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: That they have nothing in common beside you can win

1417
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: a title.

1418
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just.

1419
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: I think there are worse owners in the sense that

1420
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: guys that medal, like clearly in Cleveland, that guy meddles

1421
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: a lot.

1422
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 2: He's very involved.

1423
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: Clearly over the last five years, David Tepper has gotten

1424
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: too involved, right, that happens not even debatable in some

1425
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: of these, But I don't think he's telling you who

1426
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: to draft or who to pick. So from that standpoint,

1427
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: his downfall has been he's hired the wrong people. Now

1428
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: a huge part of being an owners hiring people right

1429
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: and letting them, letting them cook. And he's made some

1430
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: catastrophic failures at hiring guys. Josh McDaniels didn't even make

1431
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: it to you to finish year two what's his name?

1432
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: Last year te LESCo and Antonio Pierce.

1433
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: One and done.

1434
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: So it's like you start having the one and done,

1435
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: you find yourself in problems problem territory quick. Is there

1436
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: any way Donald could win the MVP or do you

1437
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: think his reputation not being a big name quarterback could

1438
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: prevent him from winning it? I think the MVP is

1439
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: wide open right now. I mean wide open, from Alan

1440
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes to Drake May's in the mix, Baker Mayfield still

1441
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: in the mix, obviously, Stafford's now in the mix. Sam

1442
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: Donald's in the mix. We got two months of primetime

1443
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: games of divisional games. It's gonna play itself out. But hell,

1444
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is not dead by any means. When you

1445
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: look at his stats and where his teams kind of sits.

1446
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: I just think we gotta be careful about we got a.

1447
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: Long, long way to go. Felt pretty good about my

1448
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield play, but it's just it's tough.

1449
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't think him not being a quote unquote big name.

1450
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: I think Sam Donald's a big name at this point

1451
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: in time. His number three overall pick USC obviously crashed

1452
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: out in New York, but I think he has more

1453
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: than resurrected his career to be I mean, he's been

1454
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: top four or five quarterback this year. He was one

1455
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league last year. So

1456
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like, well, you had bad playoff game,

1457
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: so does Lamar. I'm not saying that Sam Donald's as

1458
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: good as Lamar, but we see a lot of guys

1459
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: have bad playoff games.

1460
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: It's football.

1461
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Loves had an awful playoff game, Dak Prescott's had

1462
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: horrendous playoff game.

1463
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 2: Guys had bad playoff games. Here we go again.

1464
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: I ask you what would happen if Chicago beat the Commanders,

1465
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: and in your words, we'd be sitting pretty good. And

1466
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: here we are five and three. Here's my question. With

1467
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: the NFC North being wide the bleep open, do you

1468
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 1: think the Bears have any shot at a playoff run?

1469
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: Well? Have?

1470
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't feel like the played the Lions, they got

1471
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: blown out. They played Minnesota, they lost Week one. I'm

1472
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 1: pulling up your schedule here, I actually clicked on the Lions.

1473
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: Let's pull up the Bears schedule.

1474
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: So at five and three, you gotta be feeling incredible.

1475
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: Five and three is Chicgo Bears. Didn You guys lose

1476
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: like ten straight last year after starting two and two,

1477
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: So I think this year to be five and three

1478
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: and just in the position to have a winning record

1479
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: is pretty incredible. But you've lost, You've played two divisional games,

1480
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: you lost them both. Now coming up you're going to Minnesota. Well,

1481
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: you play the Giants this week, so you got a

1482
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: pretty good chance to be six and three. I would

1483
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: say at this point in time, it would be an

1484
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: upset if you're not six and three, right, So then

1485
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: you got at Minnesota, you got Pittsburgh at home, at Philly,

1486
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: at Green Bay, Cleveland's coming to you, green Bay forty

1487
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: nine ers Lions. If you get to ten wins, Ben

1488
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's in the Coach of the Year. And I

1489
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: would say also that Caleb's got to be having a

1490
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 1: pretty good season.

1491
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: Gonna get pretty difficult though.

1492
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: You're facing high end defensive coordinators, just a lot of

1493
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: pressure in these games. The more you win, the more

1494
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: people are paying attention to you, the more they game

1495
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: plan against you in the sense of like take you

1496
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: a little more seriously. I remember everyone's slurping Jaden Daniels

1497
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: as Joe cool so calm, unfazed. I see a mofo

1498
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: panicked throwing heaters all over the place. Is that what

1499
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: you see?

1500
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: I feel like he got.

1501
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: Injured early in the season and hasn't looked right all

1502
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: year long. He looks I don't know really how to

1503
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: say it, beside he just looks off. Uh that there's

1504
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel as smooth as an athlete, and maybe

1505
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: that has to do with some of his hamstring issues.

1506
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: He definitely was not as explosive as a runner this year.

1507
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: From a passing standpoint. I mean, mclaurin's been in and

1508
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. Deebo is a line of scrimmage

1509
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Their personnelit wide receiver is not great, urs

1510
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: is old. Once Eckler got injured, there depending on this

1511
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: rookie running back. So I'm not giving him a pass,

1512
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: but I'm not denying what you're saying. He's looked off

1513
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: the whole team. Ass their whole team borderline disaster. Was

1514
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: wondering why the hell so many people anointed the Chiefs

1515
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: as the best team in the league when they were

1516
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: five and three. Now they're five and four, not in

1517
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

1518
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: What a joke?

1519
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: How on earth did people view them as the best team.

1520
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely curious. Well, I mean, I think a huge

1521
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: part of it is there a track record, I mean,

1522
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: your track record kind of matters.

1523
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: You have a guy did's won three Super.

1524
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: Bowls as a head coach and as a quarterback in

1525
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: an organization, the defensive coordinator, the core group of players.

1526
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: They've been winning the AFC year after year. So when

1527
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: you start seeing them trend the right way, you go.

1528
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: God.

1529
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Now, one thing that bit him in the ass, for

1530
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: sure against Buffalo is they're missing their left tackle, and

1531
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: then they had multiple offensive line injuries in the game,

1532
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: so there is a massive domino effect. When Simmons left right,

1533
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: you got backups that then you got third stringers in

1534
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: and it can just be a problem. Now I'd have

1535
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: to text those guys like, if Josh Simmons is healthy

1536
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: playing left tackle and your right tackle gets injured. Is

1537
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Moore a left tackle? Only do you feel comfortable

1538
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: playing him on the right side. He's mainly come in

1539
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: in regular season games.

1540
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 2: On the left side. Could be wrong.

1541
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure the Niners, you know anytime

1542
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: you're a swing tackle. But I just think that the

1543
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: Bills have also beat him five straight years in the

1544
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: regular season. I think where they really got to be

1545
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: kicking themselves. This is what happens when you get yourself

1546
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: in a hole. When you get yourself into a hole early,

1547
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: you got to drop the shovel, but it's easy to

1548
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,600
Speaker 1: kind of trip back down. And that's the thing with

1549
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens, is the thing with the Chiefs. All of

1550
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, you throw a bad pick at

1551
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: an end of a game, and instead of being seven

1552
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 1: and two, you're five and four, it's a big difference,

1553
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: and that loss all of a sudden, you're like, damn,

1554
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: we're six and six and we're two games behind the

1555
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: sixth seed. They're not gonna win the division. The match

1556
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 1: just really isn't on their side. So but there's nothing

1557
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: wrong with not winning your division one year if you

1558
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 1: end up with ten or eleven wins, and I would

1559
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: still bet on them being ten or eleven wins. And

1560
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: if they're playing Indye or they're playing Pittsburgh in the

1561
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: first round, as like the three six, I think it's

1562
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: fair to say there are gonna be a lot of

1563
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: people that are gonna bet on the Chiefs. And I

1564
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: bet against the Chiefs several times in the playoffs.

1565
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: I've been burned every single time.

1566
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: So when you do something over and over and you

1567
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: just prove like this this is who we are, you get.

1568
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 2: To benefit the doubt.

1569
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: Right, your child that never does anything wrong gets straight,

1570
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: A's like if she gets one sea, it's like, yeah,

1571
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: dad just had a bad week.

1572
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: I totally understand.

1573
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Like, it's hard to make excuses when you're constantly screwing

1574
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: up all the time, right, And that's just not the

1575
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs like they have backed it up year in and

1576
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: year out. So when they start showing signs of life

1577
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: and trending in the right direction, it's like, well, look

1578
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: who they played. Well, yeah, she didn't play everybody. They

1579
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: played shiitted teams, good teams, great teams. They beat them

1580
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: all regular season, playoffs, it hasn't matter. So yeah, I

1581
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: give Andy and Patrick Mahomes a benefit of doubt. The

1582
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: volume