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Speaker 1: Alright, how you doing everybody on this very happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It is big Blue Kickoff live, brought to you as

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Speaker 1: always by Corps Light right here on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Russ Salzburg with my partner today Paul Dutino

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Speaker 1: Brian con Forth at the controls. And as I say,

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Speaker 1: it is a happy Tuesday, it is a long time coming, uh,

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Speaker 1: plane and simple Paul, Um, when you're having trouble getting

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Speaker 1: some winds, you want to win by any means necessary. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The gods had worked against us the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years with long, devastating last second field goals, so this

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Speaker 1: time it worked out, and um it worked out in

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Speaker 1: a positive way on a terrific debut for a young

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Speaker 1: quarterback Daniel Jones. And now you move forward getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the Washington Redskins. Uh. And you know, does one

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Speaker 1: win change everything around? I don't know that, but I

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Speaker 1: do know this winds make you feel good. It's as

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Speaker 1: when you have have you've had trouble getting them. So

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Speaker 1: that being the case, UH, fans can come home, the

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Speaker 1: Giants can come home to next week and you know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a revved up MetLife Stadium. Well for sure,

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Speaker 1: it's against the divisional foe in the Washington Redskins, a

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Speaker 1: team that just got whacked by the Chicago Bears last

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Speaker 1: night in a in a very disappointing and bad performance.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Redskins fan, they just looked horrible. Case Keenum.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm told this morning that Jake Gruten

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Speaker 1: said he is going to remain his starting quarterback this

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Speaker 1: weekend against the Giants. So they're not making the move

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Speaker 1: to Haskins, clearly because Haskins is not ready. And that's

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Speaker 1: no surprise because nobody in the right mind would have

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Speaker 1: thought that Haskins would have been pro ready coming out

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Speaker 1: of school. It only started for one year at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the knocks against him that I

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Speaker 1: certainly had, and so I'm not surprised they're gonna stick

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Speaker 1: with Keenum and we will see how it goes. But

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Speaker 1: one thing for sure of us, I remember many years

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Speaker 1: ago when I was playing youth sports, remember coach telling

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Speaker 1: me never apologize for a win. When you get one,

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Speaker 1: you stick it in your back pocket and you move

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Speaker 1: on to the next game. And that's exactly what the

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Speaker 1: Giants need to do without question. You know that goes

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Speaker 1: back to parcels or whatever. You never apologize for a win.

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Speaker 1: They have nothing to apologize for. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the positives, it was a very very tough

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Speaker 1: first half, very very tough. You're down. I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: being home watching the game, what really impressed me. You're

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Speaker 1: down twenty eight to ten. And we had seen things

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Speaker 1: that were positive from Daniel Jones in the first half. Okay,

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Speaker 1: uh not being one of them, but that wasn't on

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Speaker 1: in the second half, before they even stepped on the field,

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Speaker 1: I saw Jones just chopping at the bit, anxious to

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Speaker 1: get on, as if to say, let's go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's let's go get this done. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was a coincidence that that attitude helped, you know,

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Speaker 1: just thought it was it was a very positive I

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Speaker 1: don't believe in the moral victories, but even had they

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Speaker 1: lost that game, it would have been a very positive

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Speaker 1: feeling coming out of it. With Jones' performance. There's something

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Speaker 1: I guess there's a John and Lance did the show yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the Restaurant Show from New York, the Prium Post and

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Speaker 1: John's up in the booth with Bob. I'm on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines mostly for all the road games, okay, And and

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Speaker 1: I get to see a lot of things down there

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Speaker 1: there's so much that goes on downstairs. And something that

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Speaker 1: I want to make very clear, the Giants bench was

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Speaker 1: very unified throughout the day. I never saw those guys

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear say that they were tremendous unity

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Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be. Darius Slayton made a block that

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Speaker 1: that block, Ingram has no chance to score. Actually, so

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Speaker 1: and that score, that touchdown past to Ingram was really

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Speaker 1: the fuel that brought the Giants back into the game,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. The entire bench erupted when you

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Speaker 1: get a chance. Checked that out. You speaking of blocks

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Speaker 1: that nobody was talking about. I didn't hear anybody talking

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Speaker 1: about a blocked extra point by Dexter Lawrence because folks,

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Speaker 1: if Dexter Lawrence doesn't block that extra point, you know

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Speaker 1: what the score is at the end of regulation thirty

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Speaker 1: I mean missing an extra point, shanking it or pulling

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Speaker 1: time a Dexter Lawrence did. So you're right, there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of I took a lot of energy out

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Speaker 1: of the game, a lot of positives. Uh. I just

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Speaker 1: thought the guys, their mental aspect going into the game

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Speaker 1: as an entire team was very good. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: something else which we haven't been addressed yet. You're talking

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Speaker 1: there was no sulkin or Woe's me? And I love

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Speaker 1: that about what I got to say, because what are

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Speaker 1: is is is guilty as anybody with this, Well, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do you know, Oh my god, players

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Speaker 1: don't take that attitude. Players take the attitude is next

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Speaker 1: man up. Nobody's got to tell anybody on the Giants

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Speaker 1: how important, how important uh Kwan Barkley is. Nobody's got

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Speaker 1: It was like yesterday on the conference call that they

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Speaker 1: conference call. First question to the head coach to Pat Shermer's, well,

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Speaker 1: Kwan is out for an extended period of time? What

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Speaker 1: the hell do you mean? What? Of course it's a hit.

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Speaker 1: We know it's a hit. What do you want the

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Speaker 1: Coach said what he was supposed to say. We have

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Speaker 1: faith in Wayne government, Wayne government, and we have to

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. If Ingram cuts back, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: run into some traffic. He's got to take a straight

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Speaker 1: forty five yards for the score. Folks, I cannot say

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Speaker 1: enough about Darius Slayton's impact on this game. He did

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Speaker 1: have one drop early, but he also caught another big

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Speaker 1: getting healthy. Well, he got into the game last week

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Speaker 1: obviously Daniel Jones was the story. We're not foolish, you know,

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Speaker 1: And but that's the stuff that's been talked about a

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Speaker 1: We we we were talking yesterday. I said, I was dumbfounded

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Speaker 1: nobody asked about that, but you're asking a coach, well,

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Speaker 1: You gotta move forward. It's like they they asked the

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Speaker 1: I mean, how silly can you be? Well, and they

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Speaker 1: of that. Was it perfect? No, As Pat Sherman said,

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Speaker 1: things need to be fixed, and certainly that first half

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Speaker 1: you felt like you were on a today drinking bender,

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Speaker 1: you know. Uh. But they regrouped, they came back from

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Speaker 1: I didn't think Todd Bowles called a very good game,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I didn't think even though

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Speaker 1: gave Nate Soldier a very difficult afternoon. I look, do

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Speaker 1: you know on the last drive the Buccaneers went with

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Speaker 1: never put an emphasis for them that winning is everything.

425
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: It's the longest we competed and gave ourselves a chance,

426
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: then that's all you can act of your team, and

427
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: that's all I act of doing. So I agree with

428
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: you on that. Okay, Coach Marv, got anything else? Before

429
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: we say goodbye? Real real quick, I go to Paul

430
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I said, there was two things that was left on

431
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: my list for Daniel Jones. He passed one this Sunday.

432
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: That was to start a game and play like he

433
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: did in the in the strimmage. The last thing he

434
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: has to do, I believe, and I believe, I believe

435
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: we do have something here this guy. He is something.

436
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: The last thing he has to do is he has

437
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: to play in a game where his name is the

438
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: but one name on the defensive team's board. And that's

439
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: gonna be next week am the week after that, and

440
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna be in the Patriots game. If he performed

441
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: in against Washington, against the Vikings defense and the Patriots defense,

442
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: he has it. Whatever it is, I believe you just

443
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: remember this the coach Marv and and thanks very much

444
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: for the call. I have one more question for you. Okay,

445
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: but let me let me let me just say this

446
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: to you, know in what you're saying, like like I

447
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: had said, and Paul and I had discussed this. I

448
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: had said, listen, preseason, they don't game plan for you,

449
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: and I spoke to the patri about it going into

450
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: the game. They don't game plan for you in preseason.

451
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: And Daniel had a great preseason. But you knew the

452
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Bucks were gonna game plan for him then, but now

453
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: opposing teams that will be game planning for him even

454
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: more so. And remember they're also gonna be game planning

455
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: for him knowing that his main point of artillery is

456
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: sae Quan, who's not going to be there. So yeah,

457
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's up against a huge test. I don't

458
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: care if he's playing against the little sisters of the poor.

459
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: You know, his best player is not with him. But

460
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: I think he's up to the challenge. Coach Marvin, I'm

461
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna add one thing here too. Go ahead, go ahead,

462
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: um Mike. I called yesterday and I gave an analogy

463
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: of the defense on Sunday. I thought they played. They

464
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: played teasing, but not good enough in the first half.

465
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: And I believe that Daniel Jones gave them a little

466
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: bit of you can call it whatever you want, jews

467
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: or something that spunked them up once he threw the

468
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: touchdown in the first and the and the first possession

469
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: in the second half. I believe that lived up that

470
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: team defensively, suchial teams offensively. I think it gave them

471
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: something because I believe in emotions in this game that

472
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: comes out of and I was trying to say yesterday

473
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: that they gave they gave them a little more energy

474
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: and they paid a little more harder in the second

475
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: half than they did in the first half. Well, and

476
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys believed that coach Marvin

477
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: I was on the bench and I said earlier in

478
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: the show, I'd like you to rewind it on the archive. Really,

479
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: there's no question that the Ingram touchdown provided a stick

480
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: of dynamite. It wasn't just a spark. It was a

481
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: stick of dynamite to to get that team going. It

482
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: wasn't Daniel Jones throwing that touchdown pass. It was Ingram

483
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: sprinting fifty yards on a seventy five yard pass and run.

484
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: He looked, like I told them and after the game,

485
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen you run so fast, you know. He

486
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: looked like he came out of starting blocks and and

487
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: and in all honesty, it was a simple fifteen yard

488
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: passed and Ingram was wide open. It was Ingram who

489
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: made that play with help from Darius Slayton throwing the

490
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: key block. Otherwise that play gets stopped at the Buccaneers

491
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: forty five and and it's not the five or cracker

492
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: or the stick of dynamite that the Giants needed to

493
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: spark themselves. So let's, you know, give credit where it's due.

494
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I really want to go to Ingram and Slaton on that. There.

495
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: They're the guys who lit the fire under the team.

496
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you get any argument from coach or

497
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: me or anybody on that. I think, but I understand

498
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: coaches point um, spark whatever. I just think, listen, you

499
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: just got your ears pinned back in the first you know,

500
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: you got smacked around you ten in the first half,

501
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: and you know defense was getting chewed up. So now

502
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: you have your offense to take it gets seven points

503
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: back right away, and all of a sudden, no way

504
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: to that seven points eight points uh And all of

505
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: a sudden, instead of down eighteen, you downtown uh ten.

506
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: And now the defense looks at each other, well you

507
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: know what, Okay, well not in the hole, and we

508
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: will we gotta help these guys, now I get that. Yeah,

509
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: that's a good point, called you know, you know what,

510
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: Jones and Shepherd deserve credit because after that touchdown they

511
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: connect on the two point conversion, and to be perfectly

512
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: honest with you, how deflating would have been if the

513
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Giants had failed on that two point conversion after scoring

514
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: the touchdown, that would have been that would have been

515
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: a hit. I don't know if it would have been deflated,

516
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: it would have been a hit, but it would have

517
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: taken somebody emotion out of it because after they got

518
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: the two, now they were really erupted. Well well, because

519
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: now it just lifts you again exactly one more steps

520
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: and I got I wouldn't argue with that. Let's go

521
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: to Jeff in Rhode Island. Jeff, how are we doing today? Hey,

522
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. How are you doing todight? It was

523
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: a big well done for David Jones Sunday did a

524
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: really nice Yane Daniel Jones. Daniel Daniel Jones. We haven't

525
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: we haven't had a quarterback with legs like that since

526
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Frann Todkinson was around here. But you know, Phil seems

527
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: could have run pretty good when he was a kid too.

528
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: You know, just remember when Phil was a rookie, he

529
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: was running around pretty good. Um my question is pretty

530
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: good too, Go ahead. Yeah, After the game, I was

531
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: trying to think back and remember if they hadn't ever

532
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: been any Giant quarterback in any game to run for

533
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: two TVs and past for two d's. And I couldn't

534
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: remember anybody. I don't know. If you guys know off

535
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: the topic, now you can look it up, you know what.

536
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: I'll do some investigation on that. I don't know that

537
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: that's ever happened. It wouldn't It wouldn't shock me. That

538
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me. I mean Talkington certainly was capable of

539
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: doing it. And to be honest with you, also quarterback sneaks,

540
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sneaks certainly. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know,

541
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: I go back to like sixties seven, so I don't

542
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: know a whole lot prior to that time. But then

543
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: it's possible it could have happened. But I just thought

544
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: I throw it off. That's a good point though. It's interesting,

545
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: and I will I will definitely check on no, no, no, no, no.

546
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Joe had enough trouble getting the offense into the end

547
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: zone once a game. All right, thanks a lot, guys,

548
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: have a good day, all right, Jeff, thank you? To

549
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: zero one five, one three is the number. Let's go

550
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: to Oakland and check in with Mike. Is this Oakland,

551
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: cal or Oakland, New Jersey? Mike Oakland, California. Okay, good morning,

552
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Good morning, do you yeah, yeah, good morning. Hey. You

553
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: know I'm I'm enjoying the heck out of that victory. Um,

554
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I thought I had the best, you know,

555
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: rookie first game I've ever seen. And you know, from

556
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: what we saw in preseason, what we what we've been

557
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: hearing about him. Um, I was expecting big things, but

558
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: you know that was that was just a heck a

559
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. So I just wanted to

560
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: ask you a couple of questions, But first I want

561
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: to make a comment. You know, you guys were talking

562
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: about Stirling Shepherd and Darius Slayton and the impact they

563
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: had on the game, and you know, I couldn't agree

564
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: more because you know, at the beginning of the year,

565
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: I had, you know, my five top receivers were Golden Pate,

566
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, Corey Coleman, Cody Gladimer, and Darius Slayton. And

567
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: by the second game, you know, Eli had zero of

568
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: our top five receivers. And you know that's just coming back.

569
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: They made a huge difference. Well, I thought, no dispute,

570
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: and once Golden tapes back, that's gonna be another huge difference. No,

571
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: but Mike, very fair point. But for what what you know? Again,

572
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: you know you're alluding to it, and and nobody was

573
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: saying the Owen two was Eli's fault. Okay. The coach

574
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: viewed stuff on tape, as coaches do, and coaches can

575
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: see things that you, me and a lot of other

576
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: people can't see, even though a lot of people think

577
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: they know, they don't. And he made the decision. And

578
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: if you look at the game, Hey, nobody loves Eli

579
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: more than I do. Okay, I'm a huge Eli fan.

580
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: I've watched them for sixteen years, seeing him damn there

581
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: every day during the football season. But there were plays

582
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: that you in that game that Eli would not have

583
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: been able to make. And you know what, I can't

584
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: run like that. And I was happy because that was

585
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: a very difficult decision and an unpopular decision for Pat

586
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Shermott to make, and he made it, and he had

587
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: the backing of a general manager and his owner. And

588
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's the mark to me of a good

589
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: leader is having the guts to make the unpopular call,

590
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: not worried about the heat that you're gonna take. And

591
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: he made the unpopular call and it paid dividends. Yeah,

592
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: I agree, um, as much as I love you, I

593
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: and you know you cannot still without Eui and uh

594
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: my favorite quarterback of all time. But you know it's

595
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I just think they looked at the prospects of the

596
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: team and he made the move and I can't argue

597
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: with it. And UM, I just hope that you know,

598
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: you I finishes with the team and maybe coaches with

599
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: us whatever. I just I don't really want to see

600
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: him playing on anybody else's team. But I will also

601
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: say this, he doesn't owe me anything. If he decides

602
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: he wants to go somewhere and play football. I'm not

603
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna and all hold that against him. He should do

604
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: whatever makes him happy. Mike, I did want to ask

605
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: you guys about two things about that. You you said

606
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: that very well. We were talking about that last week.

607
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Whatever Eli wants to do, it's not up to Mike, you,

608
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: it's not up to me, Russ. It's not up to Paul,

609
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: the media, or any of the fans or even the

610
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: Giants what what he wants to do. What Eli wants

611
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: to do. He has earned the right to do what's best.

612
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: And what does he owe me? Right he's giving us everything. Okay,

613
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: he's put it all out there, Go ahead, ask what

614
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: you want. There are two things that, um, you know,

615
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking for the future. One of them

616
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: gives me a little concern about Pat Sherman's play call,

617
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: and the other one is just about linebacker play. So

618
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: let me give you them both. So the first thing is, um,

619
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, going up against this team in this defense,

620
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: they got Vida Vea and and Dominican Sue has defensive tackles,

621
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: so the interior of that line is its strength, right,

622
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: and we knew that going into the game. So I

623
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: was kind of I would like to get your guys

624
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: input on why so many as Sae Kwon Barkley's runs

625
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: were right up the middle, and why we weren't running

626
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: sweeps and maybe you know, other little plays that just

627
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: try to get him outside of that outside of that

628
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: log jam where he can use his speed. And I

629
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: just felt I kind of questioned whether or not you

630
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: know that Pat decided we want to make runs up

631
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: the middle and he just kind of just ignored the

632
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: strength of that team to do it, and that concerns

633
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: me a little bit. And then the second thing, I

634
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: just want to ask you guys about is you know,

635
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: um alec Ogiltree did not come cheap, and when he

636
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: was brought in, you know, I had a lot of

637
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: hopes for his play. But historically I look at, you know,

638
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: a great middle linebacker and their ability to make the

639
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: defense cohesive and coherent and and um, you know, I

640
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: think about a few years ago when we brought John

641
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Beeson in. Well, Beeson's body didn't stand up to football anymore, unfortunately,

642
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: but but when he came in, like, he changed our

643
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: defense substantially from day one, the run defense improved, I

644
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: don't know, like ten slots in the rankings. And I

645
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: remember just watching him one great play. I wish I

646
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: could remember the game, but it was a goal line

647
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: stand and before the snap, he totally saw what was happening.

648
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: He went to his linebacker, sent him out wide, and

649
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: the guy stopped like a receiver sweep like, only like

650
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: the two yard line prevented the touchdown. And that was

651
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: all John Beeson's like genius and knowledge and which made

652
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: me think about of course, Antonio Pierce, right, So I

653
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: just like I haven't seen it from um from alc Ogiltree,

654
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: and he's been here for two years. And so those

655
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: are my two questions wanted. You know, why keep running

656
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: right up the middle when you know it's a strength defense.

657
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: And number two, thanks for the call, Mike, appreciate it.

658
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, the strength of the Giants run game

659
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: is going to be between the tackles. Ramors and Solder

660
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: would not be the type of run blockers. Hernandez, Halapio

661
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: and Zeitler would be those guys in the middle, the

662
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: two guards in the center. That to me is the

663
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: strength of where the Giants power run game is located.

664
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: The two tackles, they're more technique guys, technician guys who

665
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: are going to be holding up against the pass rush

666
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: more than you're going to power and run behind them.

667
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: Uh So the Giants decided to go strength against strength

668
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: and see if they could win that battle. The other

669
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: thing you got to keep in mind, too, is that

670
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, while they are stout in the middle, they've

671
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of speed and quickness on their defense,

672
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: and when you run wide against the quick, speedy defense,

673
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: you usually don't get very much. So they decided to

674
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: go strength against strength and see if that was going

675
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: to provide the necessary impetus to get the run game going.

676
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Giants, it really did not. And now

677
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: that se Kwan is out of the lineup, you know,

678
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: they got to go to Wayne Goldman and and who

679
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: knows who else because coach did say yesterday, by the way,

680
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: he did think that there was a likelihood that they

681
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: would bring another running back in. Remember Hillman, the Rutgers

682
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: product is on the practice squad. I don't know if

683
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: they want to put him in this position because the

684
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: guy that they're gonna pair with Goldman is probably gonna

685
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: play a significant amount of playing time and the Giants

686
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: are in a position where they need production immediately. I

687
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if that's too big of

688
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: a nut for Hillman to to chew on right away.

689
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask, you know, Well, I don't

690
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: if you bring it a guy who off the practice squad. Yeah,

691
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: it's a heck of a lot, that is. I don't

692
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: know if if they would be given him that much,

693
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I mean there are some veterans

694
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: out there, you know, and and C. J. Anderson's one

695
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: of them. Spencer wears another. I don't know exactly how

696
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: he's coming back from his injury. They were anticipating around

697
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: the league that this would be about the time he'd

698
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: be ready to go. That's a guy who's out there.

699
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris is out there, you know, Jack Crais Rogers

700
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: is out there. Um, Doug Martin is out there. There

701
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: are a number of veteran running backs in this league

702
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: who have done something who are on the street right now.

703
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: Of course, what kind of condition and shaping the in etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Yeah,

704
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, and again then you're talking about costs and

705
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: everything else, costs, understanding the system. They've got to be

706
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: really alert and football astute. And it's I mean, so

707
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: we haven't we haven't gotten a definitive one way or

708
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: the other on you know, everybody's speculating, you know, and

709
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: everybody's say, well, it's gonna be this amount of time

710
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: and that amount of time, Say Kwan is going to

711
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: be out until I hear it from the people within

712
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: the Giants organization. But what coach says they got they

713
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: likely got to bring in a running back. You know,

714
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be this he's not playing this week.

715
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, let's say it was a high ankles rate,

716
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: so high Ankles friends at least four we correct. So okay,

717
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: so you need somebody to help out Goldman for a month.

718
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: You can't do it by himself. Without question, Let's go

719
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: to New Mexico and check in what Scott. Hello, Scott, Hi, guys,

720
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: how you doing today? Uh? I'm interested in wins and losses,

721
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: not how comparative the team is. I agree with your us.

722
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: I think that's a good benchmark. But I think the

723
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Giants are poisoned in a way, and I think they

724
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: can rally around the kind of performance of Daniel Jones

725
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: head and use that as a sort of a spearhead

726
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: as they move forward. And if the play of the

727
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: rookies are getting better as we go from game to game,

728
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: why is it so implausible that they could not beat

729
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: a team like, say, Minnesota. I assume we're going to

730
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: be Washington. But but but hold on, Scott, hold on

731
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: a second. Nobody's saying that they can't beat a team

732
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: like Minnesota. I simply said, it's a toller or that's all.

733
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they can't be beaten. And I simply said,

734
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't that you don't care about W's

735
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: That's not what I said. I said, when you're measuring

736
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: this kind of team and the progress of this team,

737
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily measured in w's. It's measured in the

738
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: progress that they're coming forth with each game. Scott. To

739
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: build off of your point, and I want to make

740
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: this very clear, because I I said this in the spring.

741
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: If the Giants can get this rookie class to produce

742
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: like the two thousand seven rookie class did, they've got

743
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: a chance to sniff the playoffs because because you need

744
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: those guys to give you as much as they can,

745
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: as quickly as they can, as consistently as they can.

746
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: The Giants aren't good enough, they're not deep enough at

747
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: all the different positions. Without getting those guys to give

748
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: them immediate production. It's it's really that simple. If the

749
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: rookie class can't give them significant snaps now there there,

750
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be another year away. It's just that I

751
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: did occur on that point. But I'm seeing progress moving forward.

752
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: But my main point is this, and I'll be glad

753
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: to hear your perspectives, both of you. I don't know

754
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: if you were at the game or not, but if you,

755
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: if you remember the play that Tampa Bay had with

756
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Mike Evans towards the end of the game when he

757
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: beat Genora's Jenkins. If you notice the patterns, he he

758
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: had gone about three yards and raised his hand. He

759
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: was already open three yards into the route. And this

760
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: is something that I don't quite understand, and having been

761
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: at the game, maybe you could explain it to me.

762
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: Normally you would get shadow coverage from the safeties. Was

763
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: that called or where the safety is just meandering someplace else?

764
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Because it didn't make any sense to me because what

765
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: Mike Evans had done in the beginning of the game

766
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: that you would leave him out on an island with

767
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Genora's Jenkins. Who's what five eleven I guess and Michael

768
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: Evans is uh, six six, I guess. And it reminded

769
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: me of the play with Pipsico Burrows and having a

770
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: five nine guy on him in the Super Bowl, and

771
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: you know what the end result of that was. So

772
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm wondering why in three games, and I'll be glad

773
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: to take your answers off the air, why James Betcher

774
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: hasn't made some significant changes so those kinds of players

775
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: don't happen because they seem to be mirroring each other

776
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: from game to game, and I was just curious because

777
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: that seems to be something that I'm concerned about. What

778
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: the secondary Why aren't the safety sort of shadowing these guys,

779
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: especially on a play like that where towards the end

780
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: of the game, And I was wondering if if you

781
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: can give me an answer to that question. Thanks, guys,

782
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: I'll take your answers out here. Thank you, Scott. Thanks

783
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: for the call to number folks. Well, I'm looking for

784
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: the player. I'm guessing he means the final drive. Yeah,

785
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that's the play is talking all right, I'm looking at

786
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: it now. I'm going to look at the coaches tape

787
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: because I have access to that, so I'm going to

788
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: take a look and we will see exactly what was

789
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: going on. Do know that Jack Rabbit was shadowing Evans

790
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: most of the game. I mean not just that's just

791
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the way they're playing it because he believes and I

792
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: see what he means. Okay about the Giants forty five

793
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: yard line, Evans raises his hand as he's streaking down

794
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: the sideline because clearly he believes that he's got the

795
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: status and he's gonna beat Jenkins downfield. Okay, fine, now

796
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: let's look at Let's look at the the end zone shot.

797
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: As I get a look at this, so I'll try

798
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: to decipher what I'm looking at. Uh, Okay. The only

799
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: possibility if Jenks, if if if Jenkins was gonna get help,

800
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: it looks like the only guy who could have given

801
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: him help on that play would have been Mike Thomas. Now,

802
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas was already over between the hash box and

803
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: he was nowhere near that side of the field. So

804
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: the question becomes was Evans matched up one on one

805
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: against Jenkins and was Jenkins just supposed to do a

806
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: better job, Because, let's face it, throughout his career, he's

807
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: been a cover corner. People have allowed him to take

808
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: people on an island and try to contain them. That's

809
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: what his reputation has been for years now. Unfortunately, in

810
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: this particular game, he got burned a lot. It was

811
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: a rough game for Generes. Maybe the call was you

812
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: still got to deal with him one I want and

813
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: just stopped the play, or maybe maybe someone like Michael

814
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: Thomas was supposed to come over the top and help

815
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: him out. I don't know the answer to that, but

816
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: but certainly the way that the play transpired, Jenkins wound

817
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: up having to deal with him one on one. And

818
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure Scott that the you know, coach Petcheer and

819
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: and everybody else is going to be looking at you

820
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: know that, and how we got to make sure something

821
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: like that. Uh, well, it's gonna happen again, but it

822
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: doesn't happen as frequently. Most of his career, Jenkins has

823
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: been one on one against guys, and many of those

824
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: guys were bigger than him. But I mean, this guy

825
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: wasn't just big. He's a great receiver. I know he is,

826
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: but Jenkins prides himself on being a top flight corner.

827
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's go Chris and all Chris, how are

828
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: you doing? Helly good? Thanks Ross, Thanks Paul. Just a cup,

829
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: just a couple of points. You know, I couldn't help

830
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: but think, you know what, all the Daniel Jones talking

831
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: what a fantastic job he did. You get You get

832
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: a good quarterback out of college and in these big schools, right,

833
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: they get time in the pocket, you know, and then

834
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: when they get to the NFL, you know, the rush

835
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: is on them. They're not used to it. But then

836
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you get a guy like Jones,

837
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: who was the total opposite plays at Duke where cut

838
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Cliff under center has to take two step drops get

839
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. Nobody really acknowledged his arm because

840
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: he didn't even have time to throw too deep. And

841
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: then he comes to the NFL, Nate Solder, Yeah, had

842
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: a bad game, but he had time in the pocket.

843
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, that was probably a breath of

844
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: fresh air for this kid who's not even used to

845
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: having the time to go through his progressions. You you

846
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: know what, Chris, I'll tell you something else which you

847
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: saw one thing, uh from Daniel that coach cut Cliff

848
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: uh couldn't wouldn't be able to teach Eli or Daniel

849
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Jones when he had both. You can't teach toughness. He

850
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: can't teach being able to get up off the mat

851
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: when you get knocked down. And let me tell you

852
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: something if you watched, which you did, Chris, but he

853
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: took some big time hits. I mean it was one

854
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: where I looked like his head snapped back. I thought

855
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: maybe I thought it might have been even like a

856
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: concussion kind of thing. He got slammed down, pounded on

857
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: the back, you know, you know, so that you don't.

858
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: You don't get taught that you either have it or

859
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: you don't. And Daniel Jones has it right. And the

860
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: plays after that, he's still hung in the pocket and

861
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: his eyes were downfield and he didn't feel the rush

862
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: even after you think a young guy, now he's gonna

863
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: feel it, he's gonna be a little concerned, but no,

864
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: his eyes were still downfield. And that was that was fantastic.

865
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a veteran you know, that's not

866
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: a guy in a rookie one game that you'd expect

867
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: that you think it would be in his head at

868
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: that point after taking a couple of those hits, return

869
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: to know what was being called because none of us

870
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: can get inside the coaches ears, ears headset or the

871
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks helmet. But it seemed to me, as I

872
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: watched the game, and I did watch the coaches films,

873
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: it seemed to me that Daniel Jones only one made

874
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: one bad decision throwing the ball the entire day. That

875
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: was the pass over the middle into double coverage that

876
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: should have been interceptive. I think that's the only really

877
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: bad decision he made throwing the ball, and that says

878
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot for a guy who didn't have his star

879
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: running back the entire second half and had to come

880
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: back from eighteen points down. That that is a huge

881
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: box to check. Well, you just check in the box

882
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: until I mean, Coach Sherman has said that until he's

883
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: blew in the face big blue in the face will

884
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: say that. Daniel Jones has continued from the time he

885
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: arrived to this past game. He checked all the boxes

886
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: and we got to see it up close and personal.

887
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: To zero one nine, five, one three is the number.

888
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: Let's go down to Tampa and check in with Rick. Hello, Rick,

889
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paul dots Hey Russ, Paul. Okay, good,

890
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: good exciting game. And I have a couple of quick

891
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: questions for you guys. For one, First off, the bat

892
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: with Barkley. If conservatively we get them back with six

893
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: games left and we're still in contention, uh, that would

894
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: be a good thing. And but until then, what do

895
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: you see the Giants doing? I know you've touched on

896
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but are you hearing anything? I mean,

897
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: is uh, would they possibly do a trade or do

898
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: you think I mean, if they're just gonna run with Gelman?

899
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: I know they got to bring somebody else in. I

900
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: heard who you said is out there, but who what

901
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: about a possible trade? I know I heard some rumblings

902
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: that they signed a linebacker and there that they have

903
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: to pull a spot out, and I don't know, is

904
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: there every chance that there would be a trade with Eli?

905
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: I mean, is there What do we can do about

906
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: the running back? Because I think it's very important go

907
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: went forward for the team to have a attack coming

908
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: from the running back situation as well. So it's a

909
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: first question, and I'll ask you one morning and I'll

910
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: let you guys go. The other one is when Golden

911
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: take comes back a week from now, who is going

912
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: to sit out of the wide receiving team that really

913
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: played very well this week. Who's gonna be the man

914
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: out when he comes back? So who's going to be

915
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: replacing our running back? And who do you think it's

916
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: gonna be gonna be a trade? What do you uh

917
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: talking talking down the ledge on that? Because I think

918
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: we need it and I don't see it in golment

919
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: And who's going to replace them in that? Right now? Right? Okay, Rick,

920
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Right now, it is Wayne Goldman.

921
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: It is Wayne Goldman. I mean you know, coaches said

922
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: they have confidence in Goldman. It is Wayne Goldman. What

923
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: happens after that, we'll see. Now. As far as um Well,

924
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: I listed a bunch of street veteran free agents earlier

925
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: at the running back position. If you didn't catch the

926
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: show ten minutes ago, personally, I think that Spencer Ware

927
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: or C. J. Anderson again, if where is healthy. He

928
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: had had an ankle thing about six weeks ago. We

929
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: just gotta I just gotta text. Remember our friend who

930
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: used to call here all the time, Dylan. Oh yeah,

931
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: he wants to know hibout dark who did not play

932
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: in the league last year. Okay, So I I don't.

933
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he would be in play, to be

934
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: quite frank with you. But but I you know, I

935
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: think I think Spencer Ware. See here's the thing. Coach

936
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: Shermer said yesterday that it's not only important for his

937
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: running backs to be able to run. He wants the

938
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: guys to be able to pass pro and he wants

939
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: the guys to be able to catch. He wants all three. Okay, So,

940
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Spencer Ware, C J. Anderson

941
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: and Jakes Rogers are the three that fit that mold

942
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: the best because they have all three facets. Alfred Morris

943
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: doesn't do much catching out of the backfield. Never did

944
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: Doug Martin, did him? You know those guys are are

945
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: are much more of a one dimensional runner, uh than

946
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: than the other fellas that I just mentioned. But those

947
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: guys are out on the street. I'm not telling you

948
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: that I know they're coming here. Please don't misinterpret my comment.

949
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm simply telling you some of the guys who are

950
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: street free agents who have a resume in this league.

951
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: We've got another paul A Uh, good point, Zach uh texting. Uh, Hey, fellas,

952
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the special team's performance throughout the last

953
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: three games, specifically to punt coverage, which has been fantastic.

954
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: Punt coverage has allowed two point one yards per return,

955
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: fifth best in the National Football League. Kickoff coverage, they

956
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: have yet to allow a yard on kickoff returns because

957
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: Rosas has been drilling the ball. Uh. So you know

958
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: that that kind of speaks for itself on his behalf.

959
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: As far as offensively, Giants on punt return average fifteen

960
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: point eight per return number one in the NFL. Twenty

961
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: one point five on kickoff returns tied for thirteen in

962
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. Outside of the one Rosas miss on a

963
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: field goal against Buffalo, you would have a hard time

964
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: finding fault with anything on these special teams. Zach, very

965
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: good point. That is an excellent, excellent point. Two zero

966
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: one one three. Got to remind everybody before we got

967
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: about seven minutes to go before we say goodbye. Big

968
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,120
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972
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973
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: four for more details. Let's go down to Florida and

974
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: check in with Jerry. Hello, Jerry, you're on with Russ

975
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: and Paul. Okay, terrific Russ and Paul. I just wanted

976
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: to say that I think you guys are absolutely right.

977
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: Your analysis is right. But in effect, the Giants are

978
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: currently defenseless, just as were the Dolphins under Marino at

979
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: the end of his career. But the Giants are a

980
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: work progress, and I look forward to a time that

981
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: will be reminiscent of the defense that we had under LT.

982
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: When I prefer watching the defense rather than watching sims

983
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: in the offense. But to be realistic, I'd like to

984
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: see a decent, reliable defense. The offense does not just

985
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: provide enthusiasm for the defense, It provides rest time for

986
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: the defense, and that counts more than anything else. The

987
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: three an ounces are not just discouraging for the defense,

988
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: but it wears out the defense. The better the offense works,

989
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: the better the defense will work. That's what we're looking

990
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: forward to, no question about that. But just let me

991
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: just say one thing to you, and I get you

992
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: know when you talk about the defense in past years,

993
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: let's not compare anybody's defense to the LT defense, because Paul,

994
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: you gotta start. You gotta start with an LT. And

995
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, lts come along once in a lifetime, if

996
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, once in a lifetime. Let's

997
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: go to Mike down in Virginia. Mike, how we doing?

998
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Has been a while? What's up? My Hi? Good? How

999
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: are you? I can't complain, can't complain on my way

1000
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: to a game now, I coach myself. I'm on my

1001
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: way to a game. Um. I just wanted to touch

1002
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: a little bit on them with the running back situation.

1003
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't on earlier? Why did we get rid of

1004
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: Paul Perkins? I was really high on Paul Perkins. I

1005
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: really enjoyed too what happened. You're talking to two people

1006
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: who were huge fans of Paul. I mean you quite frankly,

1007
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: you're touching a soft spot with both of us. No,

1008
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: but but but you want you want to know what

1009
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: a really good guy. I admired the heck out of him,

1010
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: especially last year because he was here. He was here

1011
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: in the building last year by his loan, some working out,

1012
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, really doing it on his own. And then

1013
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: I was thrilled for him to make the team. I

1014
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: just think coach Shermer and you know, powers to be

1015
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: viewed it as uh. They decided that they were not

1016
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: going to activate three halfbacks every Sunday. They were only

1017
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: going to activate to plus Elijah Penny, who can double

1018
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: as a halfback even though he's strictly a usually a

1019
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: fullback by trade. And so they decided that the third

1020
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: half back is going to be inactive every week, why

1021
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: do they need to keep him on the roster, And

1022
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: so in keeping two, they decided to keep Golman over Perkins,

1023
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: who by the way, was immediately claimed by the Detroit Lions,

1024
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: who then cut C. J. Anderson. Yeah, let me tell

1025
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: you something this morning. Paul Perkins would be the perfect

1026
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: fit to be back here. Sure, I mean, of course

1027
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: he was. He when he was when he happened to

1028
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: be thrown into the starting position, he did very well. Yeah,

1029
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: I agree totally. He was caught in a numbers game

1030
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate. But but you know, Mike, you can't

1031
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: you can't look, you don't get do overs and guys,

1032
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: let go and listen. I was thrilled when he made

1033
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: the team, but as Paul said, when I saw him

1034
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: not suiting up for the first two games, I said,

1035
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: the future is not here. That to me, they almost

1036
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: did him a favor, and I'm glad he hooked up

1037
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: with another team because he worked his butt off to

1038
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: be there. Thank you for the call, and I appreciate Rus.

1039
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Before we go to the next call, one call we

1040
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: ago was asking about defense and if there's one really

1041
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: bright spot on defense through the first three games, and

1042
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: it's getting brighter and brighter every week, is Marcus Golden

1043
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: couple of sacks again last week? You know right now, folks,

1044
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: and I just looked this up to confirm with the NFL,

1045
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: he's tied for ninth in the league with three sacks,

1046
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: but even more importantly, tied for six in the NFL

1047
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: with six hits on the quarterback. Marcus Golden has shown

1048
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: since that first game in Dallas where you know it

1049
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: was rusty and and really nobody did a lot of

1050
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: anything defensively, these last two weeks, Marcus Golden has become

1051
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: a pass wassh factor and Lord knows they need it.

1052
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: And that's why I got him. Listen, you, you and

1053
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: I were hearing where's Marcus? Okay, we're seeing something. We're

1054
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: seeing it now, We're seeing something right now. It's I

1055
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: didn't want to let Lee listen. Chris down and Houston.

1056
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna take you, buddy, but we got two minutes

1057
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: and you gotta make it fast. My friend, I'll make

1058
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: it quicker than that. Thanks for taking my call through

1059
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: uh to to real quick comments. As much as I

1060
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: love Daniel Jones, there's one thing that I'm not sold

1061
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: on until I say it. Do you think he has

1062
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: a shot at playing corner or free safety as well? Okay,

1063
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad you hung on for that. Thank you for

1064
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: the call. Chris, no no, no, no, but one of

1065
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: the one of the all right one other comments. Um,

1066
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: I got very emotional at the end of the game.

1067
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the pisonomy, but the truth of the matter

1068
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: is shame on all those that judged this poor kid,

1069
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: especially the ones over at Yankee Stadium. This guy's got

1070
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 1: out support. He motivated the team. I'm really excited about

1071
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: the future. And uh and I'm very very for a

1072
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: long time. It's been a while, but I felt extremely

1073
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: proud and flying up to this weekend game. Good for you, Chris,

1074
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: thank you for the call. Now you want to know

1075
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: what like like you you heard me say it several

1076
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: times Paul as well, I mean where are they now?

1077
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean I laugh about it. They killed him when

1078
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: they drafted it. Then two games in to the see

1079
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: you know now it's like not two games into the season.

1080
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: I think it was two games into training, two days

1081
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: at the training camp. Well he should be the start

1082
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: of why is it? I mean, guys, you can't have

1083
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: it both ways. But the one thing we do know now,

1084
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: the big Blue bandwagon is overflowing with Daniel Jones supporters.

1085
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's a good thing. You know,

1086
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: Shermer and and and and Dave Gettleman and John Mary.

1087
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: They're not walking around what I told your souls, because

1088
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: that's the business that they're in, and the business is

1089
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: especially when you're come into a team that needed some rebuilding,

1090
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: You needed it people to make some tough decisions. Tough

1091
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: decisions have been made and now they're moving forward with

1092
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: a bright young future in Daniel Jones. All right, that

1093
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: is a rap on today for our friend here Brian

1094
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: khan Forth, who's taking care of us with the controls.

1095
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I am Rush Salzburg, along with my good buddy Polly

1096
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Dots Poultino. Always thank you for being part of Big

1097
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live here, brought to you by Corps light

1098
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: on giants dot com. Until next time, Bye bye, so long,

1099
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: and farewell