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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson and it is Friday. It is

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Speaker 3: before all hell breaks loose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hell could break loose while we're on the air,

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Speaker 1: it could, and Hell's been gradually breaking loose over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Ly, but surely it's like we're in a Buffy the

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Speaker 3: Vampires some of the Hounds. Yeah right, and we're in

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Speaker 3: the hell Mouth and more's coming. More is coming. But

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Speaker 3: I thought we'd take a look at the AFC today,

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Speaker 3: Matt to start the show and where some of these

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Speaker 3: other teams are at across the conference in terms of

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Speaker 3: what they have as free agents and how much cap

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so we'll.

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Speaker 3: Start with the A. Yeah, we'll go AFC East. I'll

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Speaker 3: hit on some of the bigger named free agents on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yea yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's not the only free agents they have, but certainly

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Speaker 3: some of the bigger names. They the Buffalo Bills, who

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Speaker 3: they're kind of an odd one They're an odd one

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Speaker 3: because they don't have a ton of cap space. In fact,

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Speaker 1: There's still a handful of teams over the cap. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now, they don't have any guys who you look at

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Speaker 3: They get some defensive lineman Dwayne Smoot, Quentin Jefferson, Austin Johnson,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Phillips, who are all yeah, could use it. Unrestricted

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Speaker 3: But they're not going to be big buyers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, unless it's like for Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen's contract is getting close to the end.

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Speaker 1: they could borrow from the Bank of Allen, as any

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Speaker 3: The problem was so in twenty twenty five, his base

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what the going right is for

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Speaker 3: His cap hit. This year's forty four point seven million.

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Speaker 3: But if they do that, it's just gonna be one thing.

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Speaker 3: So they're not going to be markedly better next year

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be markedly worse either. I think

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Speaker 1: They just restructure, Bradley Chubb off the edge.

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Speaker 1: Hollin's a big gonna make big times.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna make big money. And you're looking at a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tyreek Hill's rumored to be on the block

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's just a saving move. The

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Speaker 3: Need basically an entire offensive line on twenty on twenty

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't know where that would improve, right, team, they're.

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Speaker 3: Not going to be a better team next year than

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Speaker 1: They would be shocked, right.

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Speaker 3: So again taking a step back, the pay.

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Speaker 1: Were of pusher chips in all you know, all your

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Speaker 3: The Patriots have the most cap space available.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna hard to defend it.

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Speaker 1: Team almost right. Year one was last year. You got

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Speaker 3: Next year should be like get the six or seven

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Speaker 1: No. If they can start to build around, may give

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Speaker 3: Could be the second best team in that division. But

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Speaker 1: It's going to be bad. The bill should steamroll through

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jets have they're in limbo teams. They've I mean,

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Speaker 3: they've got just twenty free agents. You're looking at they

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Speaker 1: Which they knew was coming. They drafted a tackle in

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Speaker 3: Year asan Reddick who they didn't get anything out of.

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Speaker 1: And it's similar, well not exactly the same, but they

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I tend to agree. I mean, we don't we

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Speaker 3: Noise, and and there's no there's no quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 3: And I like cam Ward, but I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: First of all, I don't think cam Ward is coming

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Speaker 1: I don't think Tennis Deel's sticking pick.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna be Jaden Daniels, nobody's gonna be Stroud Stroud

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Speaker 1: He's the only one that has any chance in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's a good The Ravens, they're

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Speaker 1: I would think, I just don't know what they'll pay him.

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Speaker 3: Nelson Aguilart, Tyler Wallace so too. They're replaceable, but you

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a legit chance Mark Andrews gets traded, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, And I didn't sit in on your interview

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing that's still not going to help you.

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Speaker 1: Beat the best guys going to get traded.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not going to help you get past Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the big the big picture issues in

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Speaker 3: You need to replace some offensive linemen, right right, right?

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Speaker 3: You can't. You know, Burrow, as much as we love him,

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Speaker 3: So right, it's it's a precarious situation.

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Speaker 3: There'll be a playoff contender because of Burrough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we don't need to go through it all.

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Speaker 1: All right? Whatever we're done, we're talking about we talk

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Speaker 1: They had to make some moves to get Kirk under

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Speaker 3: We as we did here right now, they've got five

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Speaker 1: I say backup quarterbacks matter, though, I mean you're not

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs and Robert Woods IRV Smithy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kirk's gonna replace. Did you see Tank Dell's situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, Mason used to be really really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Derek Barnett and Jerry Hughes Okay, too older, but still

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Speaker 3: probably easy move. Mario Edwards and fully Faticassi two defensive

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Speaker 3: Stewart and the long snapper. Everybody's got long snappers that

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Speaker 1: There might be more things, you know, something I don't

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Speaker 3: We're looking for cap space here in the Colts that

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Speaker 1: No, right, they can find two starters. Yeah, they be

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Speaker 3: In the process of rebuilding the offensive line. They're going

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Speaker 1: And it's a total defensive scheme switch to Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would bet somewhere Vegasage come out it's eight, you

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Speaker 3: come and pad lock your door when you can't afford it,

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Speaker 3: can't afford it anymore. Let's get thro a Raakey is

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Allie. You're listening to the

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Speaker 3: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Mat.

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Speaker 3: Now we back with more right.

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Speaker 1: After this.

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Speaker 2: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, and we're going through all of the teams

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Speaker 3: in the AFC as we get closer to free agency

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Speaker 3: beginning at next week, and measuring whether they are a

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Speaker 3: playoff contender or not based on what they can actually

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Speaker 3: do this.

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Speaker 1: They're trending up or down there. You know what this

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Speaker 1: offseason entails too for of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and thus far, I think we've come up with

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis's a potential playoff contender. The Bengals are a potential

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Speaker 3: playoff contener. Yeah, The Bills and Ravenmans are trying to

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Speaker 3: stay where they're at the playof contenters. They're they're probably

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Speaker 3: you can pencil those two teams into the playoffs ye

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Speaker 3: are and Catastrophe, but they both.

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Speaker 1: Probab lose more than they gain.

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Speaker 3: Yea, They're not gonna off in the case necessarily be better

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Speaker 3: teams than they were this year. It brings us to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of a tough one for me because I'm

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Speaker 1: still i still have a candle lift for the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I was joking today on the air. So every

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Speaker 1: year they clear their books, off goes Kirk and Ingram

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Speaker 1: and all these dudes, and they're getting ready for a

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Speaker 1: big signing spree. They're gonna overspend on three.

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Speaker 3: Contracts because of what they've done. They have to overspend

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Speaker 3: to get these guys right because and then they're gone.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, this is gonna be a two year deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be years. I'm there the Renaist Center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they just rent dudes, I mean exactly

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Speaker 1: what they are, and they're not there for long and

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Speaker 1: then we start going through it. I'm like, they pick

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Speaker 1: in the top five every year, and where's their homegrown talents?

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Speaker 1: You know, where's the Jayalen Ramsey that you draft fourth

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Speaker 1: overall that retires a jag. You know, there's not don't

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Speaker 1: exist and they need Lawrence to be that guy. But

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Speaker 1: they don't exist.

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Speaker 3: And you also know, going to play for Jacksonville, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm not to go in the middle of the season

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Speaker 3: and spend two weeks in Europe. I know that going

486
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Speaker 3: in because that they just volunteer to do that, right, right,

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Speaker 3: and talk about all the duvall all you want. That's

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Speaker 3: a garbage organization.

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Speaker 1: That's a brutal one. Right. I do think Liam Cohen's

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Speaker 1: a nice addition, and like his press conference recently said,

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Speaker 1: we love Evan Ingram, but we want big blocking tight

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Speaker 1: ends like the Bucks and you know that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: We want to bang and he just doesn't fit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's just more change. Yeah, you know, but if

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Speaker 1: they can revitalize Lawrence, I could see them being an

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Speaker 1: eight win team. That would be a successful season for They.

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Speaker 3: Have forty eight point nine million dollars in available cap space.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's updated. They made a lot lately, you know, right.

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Speaker 3: C J. Bether and Mac Jones both backup quarterbacks. Matt

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Speaker 3: Jones isn't terrible, by the way. Deernest Johnson one of

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Speaker 3: the running backs, Devin Duvernet and Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram

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Speaker 3: and Luke Farrell to the tight ends.

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Speaker 1: It's strange that they like that. At least it's sitting there.

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Speaker 3: Here's where it gets interesting for them. Brandon Shurf.

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Speaker 1: Was thinking about retirement.

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Speaker 3: Mitch Morse did retire.

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Speaker 1: He did retire, yes.

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Speaker 3: And guard Blake Hants. So they're gonna need the rework

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Speaker 3: the interior of their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And there's no They traded Cam Robinson the deadline too,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: So they need to tackle they need.

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Speaker 1: Basically the new staff has basically said we're going to

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Speaker 1: start with the line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ronald Darby and Andre Cisco defensive back.

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Speaker 1: The defense has a chance to still be decent. The

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Speaker 1: front seven has some nothing about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't see them making I don't see

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Speaker 3: them as a playoff contender next year.

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Speaker 1: No, I said eight win ceiling. Yeah. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: if Lawrence looks like he turned just looks like and

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Speaker 1: he's on the right path.

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Speaker 3: The thing with the with these coordinators who are going

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Speaker 3: on and now become head coaches, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: they can do it or not.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's totally different. World, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it might be really bad at it. You

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Speaker 3: could be the best offensive coordinator in the world. You

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Speaker 3: might be a terrible head coach.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Sure, it's a totally different world. And the organization

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Speaker 1: is not strong. There's no roots. The Tennis Titans, well,

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Speaker 1: I bet they don't pick first overall next year. They

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Speaker 1: get better.

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Speaker 3: Fifty point six million dollars in cap space. But they

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Speaker 3: got Mason Rudolph Tyler, Boyd, Nick westbrook A Kinney, Nick Venette,

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Speaker 3: the tight end guards Dylan Daniel Brunskill and Dylan Raddin's

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Speaker 3: center Corey Levin. They just released Harold Landry to clear

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Speaker 3: cap space. Defensive lineman Sebastian Joseph Day and James Lynch,

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Speaker 3: Jerome Baker at linebacker, Rayqua McMillan at linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Uh, there's not many names there I care about. Now.

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Speaker 3: They were a bad but there they earned the first

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Speaker 3: pick draft. They were a bad team. There's nowhere to go.

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Speaker 3: But but they're not gonna be a playoff contender.

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Speaker 1: Next year, No, I would think not. I mean, I

545
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Speaker 1: don't even know if they're going to draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think that might be Donald or Rogers, and I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know that that makes them an If I'm Sam Donald,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sign there.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rogers, I don't want to sign there either.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Rogers is gonna be Rogers is going to

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Speaker 3: be a point though, where he's going to be like,

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Speaker 3: if he wants.

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Speaker 1: To play football.

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Speaker 3: Whoever wants me, I'm gonna have. That's where I'm going

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Speaker 3: to go play. Probably whereas darna Will has some suitors.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he'll have three or four teams that are

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Speaker 3: offering a legit contract.

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Speaker 1: At his age.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm looking at that roster, I'm going do

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Speaker 3: I really want to go there?

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Speaker 1: Right? I don't know where the building blocks are? You know,

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Speaker 1: Like they drafted Scronsky and Latham. Okay, that's two fifths

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Speaker 1: of an offensive line and either one's been great, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Jeffrey Simmons is fine, but what's he

565
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Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty nine by now something like that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they they spent like crazy on Ridley, who's

567
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Speaker 1: older than you think, Snead, all those type of dudes,

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Speaker 1: And what do they get out of the first pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft?

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Speaker 3: First pick and the draft.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get fired is you're like they were

572
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Speaker 1: the most aggressive team in free agency last year and

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Speaker 1: ended up the first pick in the draft. That should

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Speaker 1: never happen, right, that's the way it goes. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: I don't see them being out of Levis all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden. It's going to turn into a big time guy, don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're going to be a playoff

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Speaker 3: content now.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't even if they're there, they

580
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Speaker 1: would need so many things.

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Speaker 3: Bad division.

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Speaker 1: Even if Rogers went there and played great, it's still

583
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Speaker 1: not nothing around him.

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Speaker 3: AFC West.

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Speaker 1: This divisions were promising, all right.

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Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos currently have where the Broncos at on

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Speaker 3: here the Broncos have.

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Speaker 1: I think they're like middle of the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh there they are forty point five million dollars

590
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Speaker 3: in an available cap space, Okay, Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson.

591
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Speaker 3: So they're gonna need a back, Javonte Williams. They need

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Speaker 3: a running back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they might draft one the first round.

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Speaker 3: Fullback, Michael Burton, wide receiver, a little Jordan Humphrey, Okay,

595
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Speaker 3: Matt Purditt. Offensive line, nose tackle DJ Jones is a.

596
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Speaker 1: Good place, good player, run stuff for Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Linebacker Cody Barton and Justin Frenad and punter Riley Dixon.

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Speaker 3: So not that they're going to lose.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty well run organization under Payton the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years after sort of being a disaster for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they and.

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Speaker 1: Every year they've been a little better and they've outkicked

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Speaker 1: their coverage a little bit, probably because of coaching. And

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Speaker 1: they have a quarterback. I don't think it's a superstar,

605
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Speaker 1: but he's a quarterback and he's on a rookie deal.

606
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be in the market for

607
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Speaker 1: like running backs and tight ends and starting to put

608
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Speaker 1: the the flashy things on the house that there's a

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Speaker 1: foundation in place. They spend money on lineman early and

610
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Speaker 1: minors is a really good player. Defense is good. I

611
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Speaker 1: just don't know where their ceiling is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Could they take a step back

613
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Speaker 3: next year after out kicking their coverage a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit this year, I would bet they're over. It happened

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Speaker 1: to Houston, Oh, big time, big time. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: you see that a lot with rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: see you're saying. With the rookie quarterback, people figure out

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Speaker 1: a little bit and the.

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Speaker 3: Divisions you get a full off season. Okay, here's what

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Speaker 3: he does. Well, here's what he doesn't do. Well, let's

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Speaker 3: make him do that.

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Speaker 1: I would bet there vegas over underwind total though is

623
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Speaker 1: eight and a half nine something like that. I don't

624
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Speaker 1: think it's a real high ceiling.

625
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Speaker 3: Or I don't think they can win twelve games.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't either. I'd be shocked if they're a

627
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Speaker 1: five win team, I'd be shocked they are a five

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Speaker 1: lose lost team. Yeah, you know, somewhere in that middle,

629
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Speaker 1: Kansas still a playoff contender. Yeah, they could get more.

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Speaker 1: They could be one of the.

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Speaker 3: Seven Kansas City has. They are over the cap right now.

632
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Speaker 1: Theirs is a little weird because they need the Tray

633
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Speaker 1: Smith to sign a deal and not be the franchise

634
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Speaker 1: tag because they're the're a little bit in limbo for

635
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Speaker 1: this day or two. Yeah, so they but they don't

636
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Speaker 1: have a lot of spending power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They When people talk about the way they could

638
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Speaker 3: be a team at trades for DK Metcalf, No they can't.

639
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Speaker 1: Not really, they can't do that right right? Uh, you

640
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: got Carson signing Ronnie Stanley, right, Carson.

641
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: WENTZJ p Ryan. Yeah, both guys played a lot for you,

642
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Speaker 3: Marquise Brown, Nicole Hartman, DeAndre Hopkins, Juju Smith, Schuster, Justin Watson.

643
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Speaker 1: All the receivers basically, Yeah, Tommy Xavier Worthy in Racie Rice.

644
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and hope that Racie Rice doesn't get suspended to

645
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Speaker 3: start the season.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Kelsey's coming back, Yeah, but it might

647
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Speaker 1: have done them favors if he didn't, because they'd have

648
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Speaker 1: been like a thirteen million dollars saving DJ Humphries.

649
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Speaker 3: They lost Joe Thony h Charles Omnaheu, which doesn't sound

650
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: like a lot, but it's been a good player for them.

651
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Speaker 1: Says Wharton. Who's up to some of those guys.

652
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Speaker 3: They Josh, Derek Nandy, Mike Pane or Panel, I should

653
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Speaker 3: say Wharton. You mentioned Marlon, Yeah, Nick Bolton is a

654
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Speaker 3: big one.

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Speaker 1: They're deep at linebacker, like the Steelers are all of

656
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, But he's he's gonna make a lot of money. Yeah,

657
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: and Justin Reid the safety important.

658
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: Pieces and they don't have any money.

659
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: Any money, right and they definitely need to work on

660
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: the line. I mean, they just they're gonna they gotta

661
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: get a left tackle. And there has been some talk

662
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: of Suet maybe going to guard, you know, maybe try

663
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: to piece together the tuney spot, but that there's nothing

664
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: at left tackle now. If you're making those kind of movies, they.

665
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: Can't go into next year thinking, Okay, we're gonna run

666
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: it back with Sue Mattia whatever. And I hope that

667
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: he's better.

668
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Nor he was awful, terrible, couldn't stand the field at all.

669
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: But they're Super Bowl team. I mean, no one's crying

670
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: for him. They'll be fine. They're gonna be a playoff contender.

671
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: They're not gonna be as good as they were they year.

672
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: I would think not.

673
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: They're not going to the two losses this next year.

674
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Like we'll get the Chargers. The Chargers to me are

675
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: a team that could be better. Well, then we'll get them.

676
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: But at least they might look at it like maybe

677
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are starting to show chinks in the armor,

678
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: and there at the end of their run, were worth

679
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of our run, you know, like maybe maybe,

680
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: but we've thought this about the Chiefs before. Yeah, again,

681
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: no one's crying for the Chiefs.

682
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: The Raiders. The Raiders have where they at on here?

683
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: The Raiders have eight money eighty point eight million dollars

684
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: in cap space. But Gardner Minshew and Desmond Ritter both

685
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: free agent gone, Emir Abdullah, Alexander Madison so gone, Terrence

686
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: Marshall gone, Harrison Bryant at tight end gone, Andres Pete

687
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: offensive tackle gone, Cody White Hare at guard, uh Clavon

688
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: Chase on, Malcolm Coon.

689
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: Those offensive players are lost.

690
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: So Malcolm Kon's is going to be a loss for them.

691
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: He was hurt a lot last year, but he was

692
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: good good, He's got paid pretty well. It's a number

693
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: two pass rusher. It won't be by them after the

694
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: Crosby deal.

695
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: Adam Butler and John Jenkins on the defensive line, Divine

696
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: Diablo and Robert Splaine, they're two starting inside.

697
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: The Slain's a green dot guy, makes a lot of plays.

698
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: And Diablo's a starting linebacker as well. Nate Hobbs and

699
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: Darnay Holmes, Marcus EPs and Trayvon Mowering.

700
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: Mo Reads a good player too. Yeah. I mean they're

701
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: another team that doesn't have a ton of good players, right,

702
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: you know. I mean there's been talk that they might

703
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: trade Mayor. We don't know who their quarterback is. Could

704
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: that be Rogers Wilson, Donald.

705
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: I think there's a team that makes the pitch for Darnald.

706
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: I think Donald ends up there, which is.

707
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: Going to eat up a bunch of that caps.

708
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I do think they're trending the right direction, though a

709
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: playoff team there might be a stretch. Not in that division,

710
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: I would think that's a stretch. I mean, I let's

711
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: see the quarterback is before you have that.

712
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: Car and they have no home field advantage at all.

713
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: No, but like a Christian Wilkins comes back and Crosby's there.

714
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: It's the first time, honestly since the last ten years

715
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: of Val Davis's life, that I think they have direction.

716
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think they're ceiling.

717
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: They're still digging out regardless of who they get at quarterback.

718
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: I think they're ceilings. Eight wins, oh yeah.

719
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. They're not optimism is they're not a

720
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: playoff contender next year? Right? Yeah? And I think Pete

721
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: Carroll will squeak out a win or two or they shouldn't.

722
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: The Chargers are an interesting team. They have a really

723
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: interesting ninety point six million dollars in available cap space,

724
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: but they need everything. Taylor Heineke, Easton Stick both backup quarterbacks.

725
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: JK Dobbins your lead running back. Uh.

726
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: The beauty is they don't need the expensive stuff.

727
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: DJ Shark, Josh Palmer among some other wide receivers. But

728
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 3: guys who've played a lot for you, Hayden Hurst at

729
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: tight end, so you don't have a tight end center

730
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: Bradley Boseman.

731
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: Uh, interior line is kind of a mess.

732
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, guard, Sam Mustafer, Khalil mack A free agency already

733
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: got rid of Joey Bosa.

734
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna push hard.

735
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: You are free agents Punifford Morgan, Fox here tart on

736
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: the interior of offense or defensive line, Denzel Perryman, Eli Apple,

737
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: Christian Fulton, a Sante Samuel cornerback, Tony Jefferson and Marcus

738
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: May at safety.

739
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you said interesting. I think they're super

740
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: interesting because you hire Harbaugh and you're like, man, this

741
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: is a cap disaster. So they decided to keep Bosa

742
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: and mac as opposed to Mike Williams and Keenan Allen.

743
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: They knew they'd get rid of big ticket items. They

744
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of huge contracts and they did nothing

745
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: in free agency. They signed a blocking tight end that's

746
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: like the only thing they did, and then had a

747
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: pretty good year, you know, I mean all in all,

748
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean they have a quarterback and did some good things,

749
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: and then this year it's like, well, now we have

750
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: all the cap space for harbody, go get his dudes,

751
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: But there's so many holes, you know, like on paper,

752
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: he tackles a problem.

753
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: Your defensive front is gonna be right a problem.

754
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I'd like two two up. I crush his name, the

755
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: other edge guy that's been sitting behind those two, and

756
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: he'll step up as one starter. But who's the other edge?

757
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ready to be the guy right right right.

758
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 3: He was always the second third.

759
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: And should have been a two, but Boso was always out,

760
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: so he played a lot on the interior road line

761
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: look like a strength. But they're talking about making Zion

762
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Johnson a center and going shopping for guards because there's

763
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: not many centers to go get. I could see like

764
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: Nausey landing there as their top back or something like that.

765
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Everyone mocks a receiver to them of some sort or

766
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: a tight end. They got a lot of money.

767
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: Though they got a lot of money, there'll be a

768
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: playoff contentent yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so they'll be.

769
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Better than last year. I leaned towards yes, but that's

770
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in Harbor and Herbert. Yeah, So

771
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: to look at it here as a whole. The Chargers

772
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: in terms of being a playoff contender in the AFC, Yes, yeah.

773
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: The Raiders are a no. Agreed.

774
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: The Bronco the Chiefs are a yes.

775
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

776
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: The Brons are yes. The Broncos are a yes.

777
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: If we're just trying to get into the seven.

778
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Titans are no.

779
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: No.

780
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: Jaguars are no.

781
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: And one of these no's will be a yes, and

782
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: one of these yeses will get killed by injuries and

783
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: being The Cults are maybe below Denver, but they don't

784
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: have a quarterback, right, I mean that's a tough one

785
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: to project right now.

786
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: The Texans are yes. Yeah, they probably win that division.

787
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. They're kind of like the Bills where they should

788
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: be a distant, you know, favored in their division.

789
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: The Steelers we didn't talk about them, are yes.

790
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

791
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: The Browns are a no.

792
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: No. They think they're a yes, which is insane to me.

793
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: The Bengals are a yes with they're a yes.

794
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Cults are yes, they're yes, you know, right.

795
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: The Ravens are a yes. The Jets are a no.

796
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: No.

797
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: The Patriots are a no.

798
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: No.

799
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: Dolphins are in no.

800
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: I could write a story where they end up in

801
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: as a seventh wildcard team, but I'm not. I don't

802
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: like their build and other things.

803
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: They still going to show me they can win a

804
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: cold weather No, right now, they have no offensive line

805
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: they need to win or protecting a quarterback who is

806
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: I say.

807
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: I hate their.

808
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: Multiple multiple multiple concussions.

809
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: But if the only goal is can you be a

810
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: playoff contender? They could be a playoff I mean they

811
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: could be an eight or nine win team.

812
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: Okay, and the Bills are yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So really,

813
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: we came up with like nine teams fighting for seven spots,

814
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: fighting for seven spots. So when people talk about the

815
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: Steelers they're gonna be a six wim team, you can

816
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: take a look at the rest of the division and

817
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: the conference yeah and say, okay, are they better than

818
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: these teams?

819
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: One of those nine teams will get destroyed by injuries

820
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: and will feel bad for them, maybe like the Niners

821
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, Like we did this with Niners a

822
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: year ago. Super Bowl play right, right, right, no question.

823
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: Now they're in reset mode, right, you know, and we

824
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: would have.

825
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Laughed at the Washington you know, of course, chance, you.

826
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: Know, but there's no quarterback right coming into this draft

827
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: who I think is going to land in the AFC,

828
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: because I think cam Ward ends up being a giant,

829
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: and I don't know that he's that kind of elevator.

830
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: If he lasts till two, he might be a Brown.

831
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's enough to take the Browns

832
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Nor nobody can take the Browns to

833
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, right and even if the Titan segment won,

834
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe that he's good enough to take that

835
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: team to the playoff.

836
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: Team, yeah, you know, and I don't. I don't think

837
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold is that guy. Any of these teams are

838
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: going to sign him.

839
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: And say if Tennessee, oh, I mean, there's just not enough.

840
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there's too many things. And of course some

841
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: of these teams will hit on a third round receiver

842
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: that is really, really good.

843
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: The interesting rumor that's out there now is that the

844
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: Raiders will trade for Gino Smith and Donald will wind

845
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: up in Seattle.

846
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that, but that would kind of add

847
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: up in terms of their timelines. It's also the Raiders

848
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: maybe getting ahead of themselves too, and they've done that before,

849
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: right right right. I mean I get the Carrol Gino connection. Cool.

850
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, but I would draft one too.

851
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean at least Shuck or a mill Row or

852
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean somebody some day two, right.

853
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 3: I mean, were they just wait it out and say

854
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 3: going to get one next year.

855
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked at the Ohio State dude ends

856
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: up with its offensive coordinators. That could happen to the

857
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: third round or around earlier than he should.

858
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could happen. But I mean when you start

859
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 3: looking at the conference as a whole, I mean, Buffalo

860
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: is going to be in the playoffs, Baltimore is going

861
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: to be in the playoffs. Kansas City is going to

862
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs.

863
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really like Houston's chance to those other

864
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: three spots right wide open.

865
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: And let's not forget December one of last year, the

866
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: Steelers were in first place in the AFC North before

867
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: things fell apart, right right right, Like, They're not so

868
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: far off that I think as people were. Some people

869
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: are looking at this and going, well, they had no chance.

870
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean clearly becoming a playoff team. But I don't

871
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: even know about that being a playoff team in the

872
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: a f C might be easier than the NFC.

873
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I think it is now representing the conference in the

875
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: super Bowl. It's a different It's definitely hard because Lamar

876
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: exists in Allen and Mahomes, you know, right, all right

877
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: and Burrow. But he's swimming to get in the playoffs, right,

878
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, But you gotta try. Oh yeah, you don't

879
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: just say, oh, we have no chance.

880
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: It just doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

881
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: I wrote a story today about what we talked about

882
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: in terms of the Steelers having the most cap space

883
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 3: and ability to go out and acquire people in free agency,

884
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: and people in the comments wonder why I get frustrated

885
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: over this. The first like eight comments on her doesn't matter.

886
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: They're not gonna get They're not gonna get any better. No,

887
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: they're not going to get any better at all. They're

888
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: not gonna They've got all this cap space and they're

889
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: not going to spend it. The problem that the Steelers

890
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: have had every year is that they hadn't had the

891
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: cap space because they've spent to the cap. Now they

892
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: have the available cap space, So yes, they're going to

893
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: be active in free agency.

894
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Just let's talk in a week and see what your

895
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: vision of the Ross is. Folks. It might be worse.

896
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: It might be like, oh, they couldn't they didn't get

897
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: anything done. Who knows. I mean, I'm gonna sitting over

898
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: the crystal ball. But they've got a lot of cards in.

899
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: Their hand right now, right, you know, they're sitting there,

900
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: They're sitting at the table and they get a couple

901
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: of aces in their hands, and you know, everything matches up.

902
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: And I mean, I shouldn't reference one tweet because everyone

903
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: gets dumb tweets all the time. I was out there

904
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: getting coffee and I'm scrolling through Twitter and I sent

905
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: a tweet about the Steelers d line a couple hours ago,

906
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: and someone writes back in all caps because they're mad

907
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: and they want me to know but they don't have

908
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I'm like, I didn't reference the quarterback. I

909
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: just here's a D line suggestion with Jonathan Allen getting

910
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: cut that I threw out there. That's it makes me

911
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: crazy a little bit, like I know, I'm aware that

912
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback. I mean, I do this,

913
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Speaker 1: do this. Thanks for the update. I mean I know

914
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: what their roster is right now. Yeah, I mean I

915
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: get that they will. They will. I bet they have somebody.

916
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: That's another thing, another like, well, what what quarterback would

917
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: want to come here right now? What receiver want to

918
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: come here? Nobody was gonna want to come here because

919
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: they don't have a quarterback and they don't have a receiver.

920
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: They don't have the receivers. So if you're a quarterback,

921
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to come because they don't have a receiver.

922
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: If you if you're the wide receiver, you don't want

923
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: to come because they don't have a quarterback. I guarantee

924
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: you folks, when September first rolls around next year, they

925
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: will have three quarterbacks on their roster and the Rooney's

926
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: going to have six wide receivers on their roster. The

927
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: Rooney's money spends just as well as every other organization

928
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 3: out there. Yeah, people still sign with the Jaguars knowing

929
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: that they're going to get cut in two years.

930
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

931
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it there's just tap the brakes a little bit.

932
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get I do get the argument. If

933
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: I were DeVante Adams right now sitting out there with

934
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: the ability to sign with a team, I want to

935
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Speaker 1: know who the quarterback.

936
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Speaker 3: I get it.

937
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I want to know who the quarterbacks, no question right.

938
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Speaker 1: But that's why it's gonna be the first Domino to job. Yeah,

939
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: that's why this is all going to happen. And you

940
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: know you can't make it happen. You know, you're not

941
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: going to go to Justin Field as, Hey, Justin, here's

942
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: twenty five million a year. We want you to sign

943
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: right now. If he says now, you go somewhere else. Yeah, right,

944
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean I may those things are happen right now.

945
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to give.

946
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Speaker 3: An ultimatum on that kind of thing, you better be willing.

947
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: And I've always said this. You know, if I if

948
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to my boss, for example, and

949
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: give him an ultimatum, either you do this for me

950
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: or I'm leaving and he's to w he then doesn't

951
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: do that, Yeah, I'm gonna have to be willing to

952
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: walk out the door.

953
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

954
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: If you're going to give Justin Fields an ultimatum, you

955
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: gotta sign this contract by Sunday. And he says, no,

956
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: you got to be willing to move on.

957
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: Did you offer someone else? Yeah? Right, So how business works.

958
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, ultimatums sound well, all well and good, but it

959
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: also could leave you stand there going.

960
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: Eh and who knows the deal? Might it done five minutes.

961
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Speaker 3: From could be it could have it. Anyways, let's get

962
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Speaker 3: to a break. He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

963
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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

964
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Speaker 3: We'll be back with more right after this.

965
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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

966
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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

967
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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lowie. He is he

969
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on the Steelers

970
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Audio Network. And Matt, you referenced this a little bit earlier,

971
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Speaker 3: that the Washington Commanders getting rid of Jonathan Allen. Yeah, yeah,

972
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: after trying to trade him. He's two time Pro Bowl player.

973
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Speaker 1: He's the latest of he's on the block. Yeah, nobody's

974
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna take him, so he's on now, he's on the street.

975
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, he'll be thirty years old next season. Would

976
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: you be interested in Jonathan Allen? Yeah? The exact tweet

977
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Speaker 1: I sent out now that we're referencing it is, what

978
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: do you guys think of signing Hargrave or Allen and

979
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: releasing Ogan Joby, just have him do that role draft

980
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: of nose and you can still add another You can

981
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: still go two defensive linemen, as we often do in

982
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Speaker 1: our I would have a lot of interest just and

983
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: the reason I think they're all similar Hard Grave, Ogan Joby,

984
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: Allen in terms of three techniques, their style of play.

985
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: They're not quite cam They're not a nose, and I

986
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: think those two would be upgrade. And Alan's my favorite

987
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: of the three.

988
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: They don't have to release Oganjoke, or you could do both,

989
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: or he could keep you both, right and just he

990
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: was a forty player last year.

991
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: That's the least important part of the equation.

992
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can afford to keep him. You could

993
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: even go to him. And again he was your Walter

994
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: Payton Man of the Year Award, Oh yeah, finalist last year.

995
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: Does great stuff. There is a good player, not a

996
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: great player. He could give you twenty snaps a game.

997
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: He's definitely not a has to go guy.

998
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: No, No, they have the cap space to do something

999
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 3: like that and still keep that and still draft another guy.

1000
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: And I would look more like towards a nose. Yeah,

1001
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean We've brought up part grave several times. I

1002
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: think Allen needs to at least be addressed. I mean,

1003
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's a one year deal, two year deal, and

1004
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: sure some people are out there like this is the

1005
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: most expensive in oldest defense out there. You can't just

1006
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: keep adding to those things. I don't care. I want

1007
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: a good player.

1008
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: We just talked about the window and what's out there.

1009
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: If making your if your defense gives you the best

1010
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: chance to win, I think that is your opinions. That's

1011
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: your best chance to win. You want, as you said,

1012
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 3: you don't have a quarterback, right, you know you don't

1013
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: have You don't have Joe Burrow, you don't have Lamart,

1014
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: and they're not walking through the door. You're not getting

1015
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: that guy in this draft. You're not getting that guy

1016
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: in free agency. Your best opportunity to win and win

1017
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: games is to put together the best damn defense you

1018
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: can put on the field.

1019
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. And my number one goalie off season lead the

1020
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: league in sacks. Yeah. I mean you need to just

1021
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: beat up Burrow and make the fourth quarter questionable. Nobody

1022
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: wants to play against you. Right, And the Steelers didn't

1023
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: win their first two Super Bowls, and I understand this

1024
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: was Yeah, many movies obvious, but they won that on

1025
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: the backs of their defense, not because everybody remembers if

1026
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: you're of a certain age.

1027
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: Well, in the seventy eight to seventy nine Bradshaw throwing

1028
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: the ball over the players. Yeah, that's the way it

1029
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: was at the end. The first two Super Bowls were

1030
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: one on the basis of the defense. And I don't

1031
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: see Bradshaw walking through I don't that right, r Yeah,

1032
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: you're right exactly. You can still win with defense that

1033
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: Trent Dilfer won a damn Super Bowl. I'm doubling with

1034
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: the defense. I'm doubling down on spending on defense. I

1035
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: would absolutely entertain, ok job aside signing one of those

1036
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: two veterans Hargrave or Allen and signing a corner and

1037
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: spending a first round pick on Grant from Michigan.

1038
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and being awful to play against, right, I mean

1039
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: really awful to play against. And I would blit six

1040
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: and I would leave those corners on islands. And if

1041
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: you get beat, so be it. But your quarterback's on

1042
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: his back. I mean, you should be the best pass

1043
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: rushing team in the league. Yeah, and you can be.

1044
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: You're right there banging the door.

1045
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's that's again. If you do that,

1046
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: you have a chance to beat those teams. Yeah, as

1047
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: we just saw in the Super bowls and interceptions, the

1048
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: Eagles didn't win the Super Bowl because of their offense.

1049
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't need what getting doubled and tripled every snap,

1050
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm just gonna I'm going to live

1051
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: and die by aggression on defense, and you may win

1052
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of games.

1053
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Eagles won the Super Bowl because of their defense.

1054
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely right.

1055
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: The Chiefs could do nothing in that game, right, And

1056
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: the Steelers aren't going to have Barkley, Smith, Brown and Goddard,

1057
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: I mean they're not. Maybe you've got Omari and Hampton

1058
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: running you know ya ball, and you've added another wide

1059
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: receiver to the mix, and you can throw the ball and.

1060
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: You give your offense two more short fields than you

1061
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: usually do because you're so nasty with sacks and tip

1062
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: balls and strip sacks and things like that. Because that's

1063
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: the thing that's close, it's real close. You got the

1064
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: hard part. You got the Wattson Haywards and the dudes

1065
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: that everyone hates playing against, right, just make it so

1066
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: they can be at their very best.

1067
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Speaker 3: I'm with you all the way on that. Let's get

1068
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Speaker 3: to a break. That's going to do it for our

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Speaker 3: number one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with our number two right after this