1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 4: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 5: Listen Gus, John. 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Annick, Kenny Florian. Oh my god, here're your hosts, John 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: Annick and Kenny Floor. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 6: I mean, would you look at this? Would you look 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 6: at this? If your audio only today? You got real 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 6: issues series? Because we are all in studio. It is Monday. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 6: It is July thirty, twenty eighteen, Episode one sixty five 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 6: of the Anak and Florian Podcast Live from Los Angeles Today, 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 6: and look what the fucking cat dragon today? Man in Mahogany, 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 6: love that Bruce Buffer is here. 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: What's up? 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 7: Man? 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: We are love love this. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 8: I believe it. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 6: What a state you guys living in this California it's 25 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 6: not fair. 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: It's nice, not fair. We have it. We have it 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: very good here. 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 6: I started a GoFundMe paid so I can try to 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 6: live here. One day. 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 8: You know, you happen to wake up to one of 31 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 8: the most beautiful California Oh my god. 32 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if I fit in though, right. 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm at Buffer's house this morning. Thanks for 34 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 6: the hospitality, by the way, and he's putting like brain 35 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 6: octane oil in his coffee. That do this too, oils 36 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 6: and stuff. 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know you're into that. 38 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 8: It's like, you know, last night I made him a 39 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 8: cup of coffee. We got to the house, right, and 40 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 8: he's like, this is the best coffee I've ever had. Yeah, 41 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 8: it was pretty and all like it was. I saw 42 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 8: two and a half Men's segment. They asked his maid 43 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 8: what she did. She goes, I sprinkled cinnamon on the top. 44 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 8: That's all I do. 45 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: And he's like, it's the best coffee I ever Did 46 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: you go to sleep right after at night? 47 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 6: No, no I did not. But you know, we're burning 48 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: it at all ends and we get the first flight 49 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: out of Calgary, so so the caffeine. 50 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 8: Wasn't going to phase me. 51 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 6: But uh, hell of a show in Calgary, and while 52 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 6: we have Bruce Buffer here, we got a few things 53 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 6: we want to hit on with you, but we also 54 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 6: want to get your thoughts on the fights. And sure 55 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 6: it seems like I'm just kissing fans ass off the 56 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 6: top of the show a lot when I talk about 57 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 6: these crowds after an event, But there are no crowds 58 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 6: like Canadian crowds. I think in terms of per capita, 59 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 6: how much noise each individual makes. And the Brazilian crowds 60 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 6: are great, European and Irish crowds are legendary. The English 61 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 6: crowds of course, but every time we go to Canada 62 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 6: they blow the doors off the place. 63 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 8: Can I back you up on that? 64 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: You can? 65 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 8: I got a call from my mom after the show, right, 66 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 8: She goes, was there something wrong with the sound? I go, why, Mom, 67 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 8: because because all I could hear was the crowd. 68 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh wow? Yeah. 69 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 8: So it's like, yeah, she watches every show, so it 70 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 8: really is true. Canadians are one of our hugest, most 71 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 8: loyal Rabbit fan bases out there. 72 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Yoana, when we talked to her on USC 73 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Tonight's at the exact campig we were off camera at 74 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: that point, but she was saying, She's like, I think 75 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I want to move to Calgary. She's like, the fans 76 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: are the nicest ever there, They're smartest fans. They really 77 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: love the sport. So yeah, I agree. 78 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 6: We talk a lot about all of the options on 79 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 6: the American sports landscape, and I think that hurts the 80 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 6: UFC a little bit in the United States. And I 81 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 6: think sometimes when maybe we go to San Antonio, Texas 82 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 6: and we're only there once in five years, internally, I'm thinking, man, 83 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 6: why can't we blow out this place? You know, the 84 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 6: Spurs have forty one home games a year and it's 85 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 6: packed to the nines. We go to San Antonio once 86 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 6: in ten years, I don't care who's on the card. 87 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 6: I feel like we should blow it out. But every 88 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 6: time we go to Canada, they love the UFC. And 89 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 6: obviously we were in Calgary back in twenty twelve, wh 90 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 6: we were here for the first time. So buff I 91 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 6: know you are a guy who has a lot of 92 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 6: different irons in the fire. I mean, so what's going 93 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 6: on right now? And you got this bibblehead thing going. 94 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, there's a few things now, MMA bibleheads 95 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 8: at mmmabibleheads dot com. They made a bibblehead of Chuck 96 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 8: Oldell Danny Henderson and they came to me and when 97 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 8: I saw the detail and the artwork because everything's hand painted, 98 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 8: the man Spen Styles is making the molds before he 99 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 8: even makes the babble yet he's very passionately into it. 100 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 8: So he put together this bibblehead and we started pre 101 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 8: selling it last week and their sales are through the roof. 102 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 8: It's a limited edition which is actually almost over how 103 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 8: sold out before it's even come on for sale. And 104 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 8: when they get this, it's amazing. I don't know if 105 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 8: you have a picture of it, but it just it 106 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 8: just looks really unreal nice. So go to anime babehas 107 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 8: dot com for that. The other thing is been busy 108 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 8: doing some films. I can't talk about one. It's going 109 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 8: to be released at Christmas. It's pretty exciting. Oh wow, yeah, 110 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 8: pretty exciting. Got to work with Will Ferrell, let's just 111 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 8: put it that way. That's yeah, wow, that's big. So 112 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 8: I'm pretty excited about that and some other projects. But 113 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 8: you know, life's roller coaster, man. You got to stay 114 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 8: on that thing and make sure you go in the 115 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 8: right direction. 116 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 6: So Bruce does these wedding and birth announcements as well. 117 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 6: And I'm sure a lot of people on Instagram and 118 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 6: a lot of people who are listening to this show 119 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 6: saw Steep a Mia Chitch recently had a baby and 120 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 6: Buffer did the birth announcement. He offered it up to me. 121 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 6: I respectfully declined the UFC the former UFC heavyweight champion 122 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 6: Steep Bay No. It took Buffer up on it, and 123 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 6: it got to be pretty cool for you, right. I know, 124 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 6: you know your life as celebrity has a lot of 125 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 6: different components to it, but to see somebody like Steepe 126 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 6: announce to the world that he had a daughter with 127 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 6: your voice as the backdrop, I I think that was 128 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 6: pretty special for you. I mean, even though you couldn't 129 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 6: do it for Hunter, at least you got to do this. 130 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to get into the UFC at something, 131 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: all right. 132 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna do a birthday one for Hunter pretty soon. 133 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 8: Trust me. 134 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 9: You know. 135 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 8: The thing is, I really like Ryan and Stepe and 136 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 8: his wife Ryan, and they've always been really nice to me, 137 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 8: and I told them when they had the baby, give 138 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 8: me send me the logistics, you know, the statistics and 139 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 8: I'll send him something really cool, right. So Ryan texts 140 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 8: me right after she gave birth to the baby, literally 141 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 8: right after she gave birth, give or take whatever time's 142 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 8: on that wow, and sent me the statistics. I sent 143 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 8: it back. We're thinking, okay, they'll enjoy this privately. Then 144 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 8: all of a sudden, my Twitter and my Instagram's lighting 145 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 8: up because he put it out on Instagram and Twitter 146 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 8: what I did for his baby, which I did just 147 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 8: as a passionate friendly thing. Sure, And suddenly now it's 148 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 8: become whatever. And I'm getting like twenty five orders for 149 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 8: baby bursts and in the last week, and we do 150 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 8: a lot of specialized recording. Just go to Bruce Buffer 151 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 8: dot com. I specialized in weddings, birthdays, birth of babies. 152 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 8: You know, depending on the time coming out now. 153 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 6: Good morning, Los Angeles. We're in the middle of an 154 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 6: office building here. 155 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 9: Sorry. 156 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 8: I got a big kick out of it because the 157 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 8: thank you notes alone I get. I charged very reasonable 158 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 8: for it, and I give partial proceeds to animal children 159 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 8: and military charities. 160 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 10: Yeah. 161 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 6: Nice, And you can have Bruce Buffer at your wedding. Physically, 162 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 6: it cost you a little bit, cost you a little 163 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 6: bit of money. But if you want Bruce Buffer there 164 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 6: live and in color. That can happen for I have 165 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: married a couple, do you although the you know when 166 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 6: when mister and missus Kenneth Florian came out for the 167 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 6: first time, do you know who introduced them? Goddamn right, 168 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: goddamn right, all right. I want to get into Dustin 169 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 6: Pourier a little bit and go back to a couple 170 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 6: of things with you. 171 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 10: Man. 172 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 6: I feel good for this guy. Ken Flow sixteen UFC wins, 173 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 6: eleven of them finishes, none bigger than the one he 174 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: got in the main event on Big Fox against Eddie 175 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 6: Alvarez this weekend. Third straight main event for Dustin, second 176 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 6: on Fox. I think to say he maximized the showcase 177 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 6: will be in understatement and if he's not in a 178 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 6: title situation right now, he's one win away for sure. 179 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: Clearly a huge win for him. And again, this is 180 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: a Dustin Porie that truly believes in himself, believes in 181 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: his training, and I don't think he had that before. 182 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't think this was a Dustin Poie that truly 183 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: believed he could be elite in that division and be 184 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: a champion. I think that mental shift now with all 185 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the experience that he's gained fighting guys like Connor McGregor 186 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and Anthony Pettis and Justin Gaechee. You could see that 187 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: mentally he's different, but also technically he's different. He's fighting smarter, 188 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, especially behind that jab. He's not just you know, 189 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: rushing forward, being overly aggressive. Still a little bit too 190 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: aggressive here against Alvarez. From my liking, he kind of 191 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: was playing with fire a little bit. But this is 192 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: a much smarter and a much better Dustin Pourier. 193 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 8: He's also a Dustin Poorria that I've been announcing both 194 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 8: these guys for a very long time. People had to 195 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 8: realize how long each of these men have been fighting. Yeah, 196 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 8: And what I've noticed about Poirier, who's had like fourteen 197 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 8: losses in a career, not mistaken, is that in the 198 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 8: last five fights, I've seen this evolutionary transition. He's getting 199 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 8: better with each fight. And I'm a big proponent of 200 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 8: the jab, doubling up, tripling up, setting up, the takedown, 201 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 8: city up everything. Poorier uses that jab, Yeah, and it 202 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 8: is so effective, as you said, and who knows where 203 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 8: he's going to go from here. But it was an 204 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 8: amazing win. 205 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: A lot of people think Tony Ferguson might be next, 206 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 6: but he is so long, you're right, and uses that 207 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 6: reach advantage. But you're right, Kenflow, he did get himself 208 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: into a compromising spot here, and had Eddie Alvarez not 209 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 6: thrown that wayward twelve to six elbow, perhaps the narrative 210 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: is different here on Monday morning. Your thoughts on that 211 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 6: seminal moment in the fight, the elbow that was thrown 212 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 6: by alert Alvarez and Mark Oddard's decision to issue the 213 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 6: hard warning and take the dominant position away. 214 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: Well, a couple things. First of all, I don't think 215 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Mark Henry was purposely telling him. There was some you know, 216 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: talk out there that Henry was telling him to throw 217 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: that illegal elbow. No, he wasn't. He was telling him 218 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: to throw an elbow. So Eddie Alvarez chose to throw 219 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: the twelve to six And while it isn't my favorite rule, 220 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: it's the worst rule I think ever. An elbow is 221 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: the same whether it's twelve to six, twelve to eight, 222 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, it doesn't matter the angle 223 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: of it. It's the exact same thing. It's not more 224 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: dangerous because it's a twelve to six. I get the 225 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: whole thing on the part of the head, but that 226 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: was a shot to the collarbone, really to the shoulder. 227 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: That's really not gonna do anything. However, it is a rule. 228 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: You have to deal with it. He enforced that rule, 229 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: and they certainly weren't going to let something like that 230 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: go down without being punished based on their first fight, 231 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: so they were on top of it. You had to 232 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: stand up. They did the right thing there, and I'm 233 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: glad they did. 234 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 8: You know, you guys had things happen in front of you, 235 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 8: your position on the cage, right. All that happened right 236 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 8: in front of me, right. No, there was no saying 237 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 8: like you just said, They did not tell him to 238 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: throw an illegal elbow. 239 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: You know. 240 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 8: What happened happened, and it was a shoulder shot, you know. 241 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 6: So Kamara Ousman went at Mark Oddard on Twitter in support. 242 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 6: I think of Eddie Albarez and I don't have Kamara tweet, 243 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 6: but here's what Mark Goddard wrote in response to Kamorrow, 244 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 6: who at least did say, you know, I don't want 245 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 6: that ref doing my fights anymore, mister Rusman. I understand 246 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 6: that emotion is a factor. Mister Alvarez held the fence, 247 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 6: clawed the ear and then through the twelve to six elbow. 248 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 6: That is why the positional advantage was taken away. As 249 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 6: far as your request to not have me ref your fights, 250 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: no problem, that's easily arranged. I wish you all the 251 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 6: best in your career. Thank you so. But it seems 252 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 6: as though this hard warning was issued because there had 253 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: been three infractions essentially, and the referee is within his right. 254 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 6: Even though you can separate the three things that Eddie 255 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 6: did wrong, the referee is within his right to put 256 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: all of that information together and say, you know what, 257 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 6: I let you get away with the ear claw. It 258 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: was a soft warning on the fence grab. Now at 259 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 6: twelve to six elbow, you know what you're committing fouls. 260 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: I'm putting you back in the center of the ock. 261 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and he did. I remember him warning him about 262 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: that fence grab. You got to stand him up after that, 263 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: and again, given the history of these two, you just 264 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: can't do that. So it was kind of a I 265 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: don't want to say, a karmick ending in that way. 266 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't so far. It's not like Eddie, you know, 267 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: really did something crazy illegal, but it was not with 268 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: the rules nonetheless than they had to stop. 269 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 9: You know. 270 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 8: The bottom line is every time there's this question over 271 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 8: what the referee says. Mark Goddard's a very intelligent referee. 272 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 8: He's very much similar to John Big John McCarthy and 273 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 8: the way he explains and the way he referees during 274 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 8: a fight and stops and starts fights when he has to, 275 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 8: and he always has to answer this proper. But they 276 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 8: are the sheriff of the octagon. They have to follow 277 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 8: the rules and a fighter's corner you're always gonna want 278 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 8: to bend and adjust a little bit depending on the situation. 279 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: But they have to make that call. Godar did the 280 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: right thing. 281 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 9: You know. 282 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: We always kind of like to say that when the 283 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: referee screwed up, we're pretty big about it. We have 284 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: to say Goddard did the right thing here and deserves it. 285 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 6: And we have seen at times when one fighter gets 286 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 6: away with one fence grab in a fight, it can 287 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 6: change the entire out question. So I think sometimes for 288 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: a fan they say, well, how are you gonna, you know, 289 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 6: take the position away for the twelve to six elbow. 290 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: I think he was doing so based upon the body 291 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 6: of work and what had happened, but big picture for 292 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 6: Dustin Poorier and sort of last thing before we let 293 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 6: you get out of here. A lot of people think 294 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 6: this Tony Ferguson fight could happen. I think there's some 295 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 6: sort of dream scenario where you have Bib Normongo, Metap Connor, McGregor, Ferguson, 296 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 6: and Poorier all on the same car. Protect yourself a 297 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: little bit. Do you think Ferguson is next for Poorier? 298 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 6: If indeed Tony can get healthy, you know, by the 299 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 6: end of the year. 300 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 8: As a fan, i'd love to see it. As a 301 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 8: person involved in the sport, I'd love to see it. 302 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 8: So I hope that's the case. Yeah, yeah, I really 303 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 8: do ken ful What do you think? 304 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 6: I mean? I think for Tony Ferguson, who was stripped 305 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 6: of his UFC Interim Lightweight championship, there would be some 306 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 6: value in coming back, maybe in a three round fight situation. 307 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 6: Of course, Tony's legendary for training six hours straight, so 308 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 6: maybe I shouldn't put those specific words in his mouth. 309 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 6: I would like to see Ferguson's next fight be the 310 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: Kabib Connor winner, but I think it's ambitious to think 311 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 6: that that fight would happen, and then Kabib would turn around. 312 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 6: So how do you see this one hundred and fifty 313 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 6: five pound picture shaken out? 314 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's cool to see Ferguson moving 315 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: around like he is. He's already kind of doing crazy stuff. 316 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: I hope he takes it easy though. Me a little 317 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: nervous him doing all that dancing and flipping and somersaults. 318 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: But listen, that would be an amazing fight. However, both 319 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: those guys deserve a shot as well. So one of 320 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: the best ways to settle is Okay, guys, listen, we 321 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: are going to finally guarantee you that the winner of 322 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: this will get the next title shot. You know, for 323 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Dustin Poorrier, that's a huge fight against a former interim 324 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: champion in that division and a huge fight for Tony 325 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: Ferguson based on what Dustin Poorie has done. So Ferguson 326 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: has had a lot of bad luck leading up to 327 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: this eventual title shot, and you know, both those guys 328 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: can lay claim to the next shot. But I don't 329 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to happen. I think both those guys 330 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: are going to fight each other and then fight the 331 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: winner of put that Habib and counterfight that everyone's talking about. 332 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 8: Isn't there a time differential? 333 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 6: Here? 334 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Is Ferguson hurt right now? 335 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 6: No, he's I mean, yeah, okay, okay. Shocked to see 336 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 6: him return before November? 337 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 8: You know, gotcha? So then this scenario could work. 338 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, but I think for dust and Pourier, who, 339 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 6: by the way, tore his quad and the Justin Gatchee 340 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 6: fight in April, I mean it was a small tair, 341 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 6: but he tore it and then turned around in this 342 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 6: situation with something Eddie thought he was going to be 343 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 6: able to take advantage of. Porier has earned some time 344 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: off as well, and I wouldn't be surprised to see 345 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 6: him take until the fourth quarter at the very least. 346 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 6: I want to get to Eddie Alvarez quickly, and then 347 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: we'll get to Marcus Kovol, who is in studio with 348 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 6: us today as well. Man so hard to talk about 349 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 6: the greatest lightweight of all time without mentioning the name 350 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 6: Eddie Alvarez. For all he's accomplished five world titles in 351 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 6: different promotions a UFC championship. In terms of rallying through adversity, 352 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 6: I'm not sure I've ever seen a fighter better than Eddie, 353 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 6: but it comes with grave consequences. And we talk so 354 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 6: much about CTE and football, it's hard for me to 355 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 6: sit here and say that Eddie Alvarez, you know, doesn't 356 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: have a lot of damage sustained. And I don't know 357 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: what the picture looks like medically. I'm just saying he 358 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: has been in so many wars. I mean, I called 359 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 6: a fight of his in two thousand and nine, and 360 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 6: it's been one war after the next, and I think, 361 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 6: you know, when we have Darren Elkins a couple of 362 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 6: weeks ago. I know a lot of these guys are 363 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 6: clear headed and still super articulate, but can flow. For me, 364 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 6: I just feel like more damage sustaining for Eddie Alvarez, 365 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 6: and at times more than I would like to see 366 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 6: him sustain. 367 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: You know, many times the most fan pleasing styles aren't 368 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: the healthiest for the fighters involved in them. And for 369 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Eddie Alvarez, he has been a fan favorite because of 370 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: that style, has shown heart insane heart insane determination for 371 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: years and has been fighting at the highest levels. And 372 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: everyone has that time where they should stop, and I'll 373 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: for for every fighter, it's different. Some fighters can do 374 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: that a little bit longer than others. But it also 375 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: depends on not only how many fights, but the kind 376 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: of fights that you've had over the course of your career. 377 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: So for Eddie, I hope that he's at a point 378 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: where financially he is stable, he has, you know, everything 379 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: he needs for the future, and that way he can 380 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: retire and peace doesn't have to fight, you know, to 381 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: keep making money. But obviously I know he wants to 382 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: renegotiate his contract that's now up with the UFC, And yeah, 383 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I just don't like seeing any fighter take damage. Eddie 384 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Alvarez has taken damage for a very long time. 385 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 8: I can't say it any different than Kenny did, So 386 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 8: I don't really want to add to that. Maybe I 387 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 8: can't add to what you said. What you said I 388 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 8: absolutely agree with. But I love to see him fight, 389 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 8: and I know as a fighter, in the worry that 390 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 8: he is, he's going to probably renegotiate as far as financially. 391 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 8: I understand he just bought a tailgate vehicle for one 392 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 8: hundred and forty three thousand dollars to follow the Philadelphia Eagles, 393 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 8: his favorite team, my favorite team. He's a huge Eagles fan, 394 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 8: so hopefully that means he's doing pretty well financially. 395 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, you invoke the Philadelphia Eagles, so we're hell 396 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 6: gets out of here pretty quickly after that twenty nineteen. 397 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 6: But no, and Eddie Alvaa is he he's very thoughtful, right, 398 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 6: and he is very well spoken, and he seems to 399 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 6: be in a very good place. And he said prior 400 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 6: to his last fight against Justin Gaegee that he is 401 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: no longer fighting out of necessity, right, He's not fighting 402 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 6: to provide necessary right. He's gotten to a financial place 403 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 6: where he can fight for the love of the game 404 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 6: for the first time really in his career. But again, 405 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 6: when you talk about these guys where they have these 406 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 6: six figure show money type paychecks, it's hard not to 407 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 6: hang on for three or four more. 408 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: And that's a great thing, but you also have to 409 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: look at what he's accomplished. The guy has done it all. 410 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: He has done it all. He's won titles in several organizations, 411 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: He's fought all over the world with great success. There 412 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: comes a point that when there's diminishing returns and when 413 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: you're not putting out your best work, why go out 414 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: and do that? Why go out and and and continue fighting. 415 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: Yes there's money there, and yes you want. You have 416 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: that will to fight. But if you're not putting out 417 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: your best work as a fighter, as an artist, as 418 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: a business owner, or whatever it is. If you're not 419 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: putting it, why why continue to do it? 420 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 8: Well, glad you put in the way you did, because 421 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 8: you added this every area of life. This applies to. 422 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 8: But when it comes down to the fact, there's a 423 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 8: there's a theory, or rather a term called the roar 424 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 8: of the crowd and the smell of the grease paint. 425 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 8: When it comes to like can I get off stage? 426 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 8: You just fall in love with this so much, either 427 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 8: as an announcer or commentator, whatever, but as a fighter 428 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 8: you'll go beyond your guns and be on your time 429 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 8: because of your passion, your inability to get away from 430 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 8: the sound of the crowd, and of course, in a 431 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 8: situation like Eddie's situation, the money is big. 432 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 433 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean if Bruce sounded like me after you know 434 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: the fight where I was calling out bj like, hell, 435 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: it's over. Your career is over. You shouldn't be calling 436 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: fights anymore. Agree with you? The voice once the voice changes, once. 437 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 6: It goes yeah, yeah, exactly, all right, Well, if you 438 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 6: want more, Bruce Buffer, sorry, you're not getting it today, 439 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 6: but you can listen to his podcast. 440 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: It is called It's Time, of course it is. 441 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: But you guys on your podcast or no, what do 442 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 6: you guys cuss on your podcast? 443 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 7: Oh? 444 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, it happens. I've actually said the F bomb twice. 445 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 6: So you want a SoundBite from you for future use 446 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 6: on the anti employing podcast. I need you to say 447 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 6: like fuck off John or something. So we need you 448 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: to do that today so we can use that in 449 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 6: the future. Are you able to do that for us today? 450 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: Well? 451 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 8: Actually, when I was on the bus coming back from 452 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 8: the arena last night, the driver said it really well 453 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 8: and he said, we need to get the puck out 454 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 8: of here, So puck off John. 455 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 6: All right, buff all the best, buddy, thank you for 456 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 6: popping in here. Sorry, you know those legend future UFC 457 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame Bruce Buffer. 458 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 9: Thank you. 459 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 8: I appreciate, Thank you very much. 460 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Kenny, all right, for get the fuck out here. 461 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 8: Take your guys. 462 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm out. 463 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 8: I'm getting the puck out of here. 464 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 6: There's going to Gold's gym. By the way, if somehow 465 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 6: you're watching this live on YouTube even though we're not 466 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 6: live today, go to Gold's gym and Bruce Buffer will 467 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: be there in all his glory, but a tremendous main event, 468 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: and Marcus can come in here at any time when 469 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: he's ready, by the way. But uh, for Dustin Poorier, 470 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 6: just you get to know these guys a little bit 471 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 6: and you know, married his high school sweetheart, has a 472 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 6: baby girl, Parker as well, who's coming up on two 473 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 6: years of age. As I mentioned, sixteen UFC wins. It 474 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 6: puts him four off the all time mark before he 475 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 6: has reached his thirtieth birthday. And this was a guy 476 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 6: who stayed at featherweight, did Dustin Poorier because he was 477 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 6: having the success, you know, weight cut after way cut, 478 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 6: staring death in the face, doing to his body what 479 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 6: he shouldn't been doing. But when he left the featherweight division, 480 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 6: he did so as the winningest featherweight on the roster 481 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 6: with I think eight UFC featherweight wins, So it sort 482 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 6: of delayed this type of lightweight run that he could make. 483 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 6: But I mean, think about where he is relative to 484 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 6: that Connor McGregor fight, not all that long ago, four years. 485 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: He has matured a tremendous amount training with the guys 486 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: over an American top team have helped him, and yeah, 487 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: he really is a true pro right now and coming 488 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: into his own and again really believing that he could 489 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: be a champion in one hundred fifty five pounds vision. 490 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and maybe Tony Ferguson will be next, and if so, 491 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 6: what a hell of a fight it'll be. Ferguson was 492 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 6: one of the first guys, by the way to congratulate 493 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 6: Dustin Pourier publicly on social media, So we'll see how 494 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 6: it shakes out. But joining us now in studio and 495 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 6: we're happy to have him. Mixed Martial Artists, owner lead 496 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 6: instructor at Systems Training Center in Los Angeles, a book 497 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: in documentary coming out as well letters to Liam Marcus 498 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 6: Koval as well us how are you, my friend? 499 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 9: Good? 500 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 10: So how are you? 501 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 6: I'm doing well? So I married a Polish woman and 502 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 6: her last name is Cole, spelled the exact same way. 503 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 6: I know you were born in Sweden. So do you 504 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 6: go covial or coal? 505 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 10: I pronounced it. It's been butchered, some always be. 506 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 6: So a lot of different things to get to with 507 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 6: you today, and I do want to get some some 508 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 6: thoughts from you on the UFC. On the back end 509 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 6: time permitting, but you were bored in sw Sweden, uh 510 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 6: Swedish special Forces at one point in time for one 511 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 6: and one in your career as a mixed martial artist. 512 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Actually, five Dog. 513 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: Dot com get some stuff to get. I mean, we 514 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 6: like the new look a little bit. You gotta click 515 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 6: on the record and all that stuff. You gotta get 516 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 6: that right. So five to one in one of your 517 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 6: career last win was in February by submission, that was 518 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: your farewell bout? Is that right? 519 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 10: What was supposed to be? I just June ninth, Sweden 520 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 10: in my home city, Okay, and that was my last fight? 521 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Okay, so that one? 522 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 6: So was that your fifth win? 523 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: Yes? 524 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so that's the one that you're got sure, 525 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 6: got it correct. So so it's been about two years 526 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 6: and a lot of our listeners know the story because 527 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 6: after this happened, we let our show with it and 528 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 6: spent the first ten minutes of our podcast on it. 529 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 6: Your son was killed by a drunk driver. Your family story, 530 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: you know, shook us, shook the MMA world, and but 531 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 6: I think what you have done since has just served 532 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 6: to inspire so many people. So we thank you for 533 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 6: sort of sharing your story with us. And I guess 534 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 6: just off the top for me, I just want to 535 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 6: know what the last couple of years have been like 536 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 6: for you as you've sort of tried to move on. 537 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 10: It's, you know, it's a pain that no one should 538 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 10: have to go through, and and to lose a child 539 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 10: is is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. 540 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 10: And it's it's you know, to find a way back, 541 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 10: to find a way back to happiness, to be able 542 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 10: to wake up in the morning and enjoy life again. 543 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 10: You know, it takes time, and it will always be 544 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 10: with us. You know, it will always be a sca 545 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 10: and some days are tougher than others. You know, his 546 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 10: birthday and we just celebrated Liam's little brother, Nico's birthday 547 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 10: on Saturday, same place, and you know, it brings back 548 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 10: memories of course. So but the thing is, you know, 549 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 10: you can't choose what happened to you, but you can 550 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 10: choose how you respond to it. And we decided while 551 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 10: we were still in the hospital that we're going to 552 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 10: find a way back to happiness again, and also to 553 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 10: make sure that our son didn't just become statistics that 554 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 10: because of our son, there was a change the world 555 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 10: became a little bit of a better place. And we've 556 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 10: done a lot between you know, starting our foundation, Liam's 557 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 10: Life Foundation to we in the midst of finishing up 558 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 10: the documentary called A Letter to Liam and the book 559 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 10: that I wrote, Life is a Moment as well. 560 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 6: So you wrote about ninety thousand words in three months, 561 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: just shortly after he passed. You just started jotting down 562 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 6: your thoughts and that's the impetus for the book, is 563 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: that right? 564 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 10: Yes, I started writing four days after Liam's passing, and 565 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 10: in the beginning it was for myself. It was too. 566 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 10: It was one of my ways of finding an outlet, 567 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 10: and you have to because you know, the emotional pain 568 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 10: is different from fiscal pains. It feels like you're going crazy. 569 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 10: So it was one of the ways for me to 570 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 10: deal with the grief. But as I was going through it, 571 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 10: I met a lot of parents, especially fathers that lost sons, 572 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 10: and I realized a lot of times, you know, the 573 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 10: turn to drugs and alcohol, and it's not something that 574 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 10: I've condone, but I can understand it because you become 575 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 10: desperate to find a way to numb that pain. And 576 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 10: that's why I decided to write the book A way 577 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 10: to honorly Am too, but also for to help people 578 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 10: that are going through grief and find an outlet for it. 579 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: So what inspired you Because obviously, as you said, people 580 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: will do a lot of destructive things, self destructive things 581 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times, but other people will choose the 582 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: inspirational route and the route to kind of change things. 583 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Where did you arrive at the point in your life 584 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: where you're like, you know what, I need to turn 585 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: this around. I need to come out of this what 586 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: I assume was a depression in a lot of ways, 587 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: absolutely to now make this change. How did that come about? 588 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 10: So, and you're absolutely right, you know, depression is a 589 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 10: part of grief and you have to get through. And 590 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 10: I said we were going to find our way back 591 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 10: and we're going to make a difference. But at the 592 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 10: time I didn't really know what that meant. I just 593 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 10: knew that that was the long term goal. But in 594 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 10: you know, I've learned a lot in the past few years. 595 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 10: I learned about grief, I've learned about the legal system 596 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 10: going through a manslaughter case. I've learned about the political side. 597 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 10: We just got back from Washington, DC a couple of 598 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 10: days ago, where we found out you know, it was 599 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 10: mind boggling, eye opening, to say the least about dark money, 600 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 10: dark lot lobbying, and it will all be part of 601 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 10: the documentary. But we said, right, how do we make 602 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 10: the biggest impact in the shortest amount of time. And 603 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 10: looking at the United States, that's another thing. We didn't 604 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 10: know that someone is killed in this country every forty 605 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 10: nine minutes because of drunk driving. Someone is injured every 606 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 10: ninetieth second because of drunk driving. 607 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: Unbelievable. 608 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 10: That's the equivalent of a jumper jet crashing every single week. 609 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 10: And you know, there's a lot of laws in this 610 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 10: country where you can say, you know, you can stand 611 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 10: on one side or the other when it comes to 612 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 10: gun laws and so on, right, but it's always a 613 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 10: counter argument. But when it comes to drunk driving, there's 614 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 10: no countersure. And we just met with a specialist in 615 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 10: Washington who's been focusing on drunk driving fatality since nineteen 616 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 10: sixty seven. And we're currently at point zero eight in 617 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 10: the United States, right, And if low we load it 618 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 10: to point zero five, for each point zero one that 619 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 10: we lowered the blood alcohol contum buy would save approximately 620 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 10: eight hundred lives per year. So some twenty four hundred 621 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 10: lives at. 622 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 6: Least, and where you're from that it's a zero talents policy, isn't. 623 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 10: That basically point zero two? Which is the only reason 624 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 10: why you have that is you know, if someone has 625 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 10: smuth wash or something like that, so you need to 626 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 10: have a little bit of a buffer. But yeah, exactly that. 627 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 10: And in today's society, you don't have a reason to 628 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 10: get behind the world when you've been drinking with you know, 629 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 10: urban lift and so on. There's so many options. And 630 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 10: we didn't think that we were going to be opposed 631 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 10: as much as we've been by the sun liquor companies 632 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 10: and the restaurant associations, but especially by one of these 633 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 10: dark lobbyists called American Beverage Institute that are saying that, 634 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 10: you know, lowering the butl alcohol content won't make a difference, 635 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 10: But we have the statistics, like you said, Sweden and 636 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 10: all European countries who are some point of points zero 637 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 10: eight and lowered it and surprise, surprise, will see them 638 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 10: on their deaths go down. 639 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, I you know, I'm just knowing you, knowing 640 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: how driven and determined you are. I feel like these 641 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: guys don't know who they're messing with that way. And 642 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: because you know you are a fighter, how much has 643 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: that propelled you to do what you're doing now? 644 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 10: I think one percent, Just like writing the book was 645 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 10: a big part of my my and that's for you John, 646 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 10: by the way, Kenny, I would have given one to 647 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 10: Kenny So And the name of the book is who 648 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 10: Life Is A moment spells that Liam, and but it 649 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 10: also feels like, you know Liam in his fifteen months, 650 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 10: the name Liam means the people's protected. And obviously that's 651 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 10: not what we had planned for him, but he's already 652 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 10: saved so many lives. Also by being an organ donor. 653 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 10: We donated our sons organs. But being a fighter, it's 654 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 10: a big part of it. Martial larws in itself, just 655 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 10: like writing the book was a big outlet for me, 656 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 10: And you have to find an outlet when it comes 657 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 10: to grief and and and like you said, you know 658 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 10: we've been told no a bunch of times. We've been 659 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 10: told that it's not going to happen. You're up against giants. 660 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 10: But one, I know we're fighting for the right thing. Two, 661 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 10: I'm fighting for my son. They're fighting for profits. You know, 662 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 10: they're never going to beat me, and I'm not afraid 663 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 10: of stepping on toys. I'm happy to have this debate 664 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 10: because over the past two years, I've educated myself about 665 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 10: on drunk driving. And it's like going up against the champion, 666 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 10: right if you know you have have them in every 667 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 10: aspect of the game, and how can I get be 668 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 10: It's not gonna happen. 669 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 6: So if people want to help your cause or get 670 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 6: involved with their own sort of public safety campaigns when 671 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 6: it comes to drunk and distracted driving, which is a 672 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 6: whole other beast as well, and how do they do that? 673 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 6: I know your website markets coall dot com and understand 674 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 6: what you have going on. But if people want to 675 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 6: get involved in this, I mean, what's the first step? 676 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 10: Liamslife dot org is our website and on there you 677 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 10: can educate yourselves on both drunk driving and the effects 678 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 10: organ doization. How important it is. Twenty two people in 679 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 10: this country die every single day waiting for an organ 680 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 10: And we also just started a petition on change dot 681 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 10: org because we want California to be the next date 682 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 10: to lower it. Utah has already done it from points 683 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 10: zer eight to pointzer of five, and we had the 684 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 10: bill written and it hasn't been sponsored by no one. 685 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 10: So every time someone signs that petition on change dot 686 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 10: org and there's a link on Liam's Life dot org 687 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 10: for that, and if anytime someone signs that, an email 688 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 10: gets sent out to Jim Fraser, who's the man who 689 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 10: has to accept this bill of lowering the blood alcohol 690 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 10: content to pointzer of five. And until today, you know, 691 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 10: drunk driving kills more infants and children. It's the deadliest 692 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 10: and most costless things on this on the roads in 693 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 10: the United States today. So it's such an easy change, 694 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 10: and it's so easy to be part of this fight 695 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 10: by just going on there and signing that, and obviously 696 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 10: the nations would be highly appreciated as well. 697 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 6: All Right, the book is Life is a moment. Liamslife 698 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 6: dot org is the website. And for Kenny and for 699 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 6: me as young fathers man, we just have so much 700 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 6: respect for the way you've handled the aftermath of this 701 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 6: entire situation, and you appreciate your time a couple other 702 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 6: things before we let you get out of here. In 703 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: terms of competing after this happened, right, I know you've 704 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 6: always had a great fire. I know how hard a 705 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: worker you are, even doing some of the media stuff 706 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 6: back in the day, you know, chasing interviews and everything else. 707 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: But did it feel different stepping into a cage to 708 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 6: fight another man after dealing with that type of loss? 709 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 6: Like I feel like if Ken Flow went in there 710 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 6: after experienced that loss, wouldn't be good for the other guy, 711 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 6: for sure. You know, what was it like different? Was 712 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: it different at all going to compete mentally, physically, or 713 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 6: otherwise after experiencing such. 714 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 10: Loss as a That's a really cool question. And it was. 715 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 10: It really really was, And you know, in a way 716 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 10: it was different in the in the fact, especially because 717 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 10: you know, we have this documentary that's coming to an end, 718 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 10: and that was supposed to be the end of the documentary. 719 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 10: I couldn't lose, you know, right, and I was fighting 720 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 10: not just for myself. I was fighting for my son, 721 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 10: and so the pressure, you know, you always want to win, 722 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 10: but to know that I wasn't fighting just for myself. 723 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 10: But at the same time, going into that cage, you know, 724 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 10: I came out to a song that was my son's 725 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 10: favorite song that we played at his funeral, you know, 726 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 10: and that I was I was nervous about because you know, 727 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 10: you have this state of mind that you want to 728 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 10: get into. And I didn't know how that was going 729 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 10: to affect me, and it did. It did affect me, 730 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 10: and and I was just I was so focused on 731 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 10: winning that fight. But after that fight, just that the 732 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 10: relief of how important it was to win. And then 733 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 10: I get a cause, like, right, we're doing another fight 734 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 10: for you in Sweden, whether donating half of all the 735 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 10: process from the whole event to the non profit. I 736 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 10: couldn't turn it down. And then have to tell my wife. 737 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 10: I told my wife before the last fight, if I 738 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 10: say I'm going to fight again, do not let me. 739 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 10: And then I'm like, well, I just got this courch. 740 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 10: She goes, well, what are you gonna do. I'm like, 741 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 10: I don't know. I wasn't supposed to do it, was 742 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 10: I She said no, but I know you're going to 743 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 10: do this. And then to tell my parents and to 744 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 10: tell the people doing the documentary that all right, we're 745 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 10: doing one more. 746 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, you can't. 747 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 10: This is the end of the documentary. And that was 748 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 10: even more pressure, sure, you know, because I couldn't go 749 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 10: back to Sweden and lose. The whole event was about 750 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 10: Liam's Live Foundation. There was you know, logos everywhere, and 751 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 10: I wasn't fun to be around the last few weeks, 752 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 10: and especially going out in my home city, you know 753 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 10: where when I left Sweden, MMA wasn't legal still, and 754 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 10: then come back home and finish it there. I'd say, 755 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 10: it's running down my cheeks as I was walking out 756 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 10: to that fight, and yeah, it was difficult. 757 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 6: Well it was a double though. We know that. So 758 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 6: that's a good thing. 759 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 10: All right. 760 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 6: Last thing before we let you fly in terms of 761 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 6: your UFC consumption or are you watching these big fights 762 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: you know weekend we got the rest of us are okay? 763 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 10: Yes, sir, I watched both of you, and I'm excited 764 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 10: about this weekend. Last week cans fights who are amazing. 765 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: You know. 766 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 10: I've sparred with t J. And before my last fight 767 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 10: in Sweden, I was up at Alpha Male with with 768 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 10: Ry and the guys and and me and Clay Ford 769 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 10: the same nights who were going and your actually asked me, 770 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 10: it's like, hey, do you want to do some rounds 771 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 10: COVID with with no Love? And I said it was 772 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 10: I actually serge on my elbow. I needed that before 773 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 10: the fight, but it had been bothering me and I 774 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 10: said I don't know. I'm just it's my first day 775 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 10: back to sparring after my my problems with my elbow, 776 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 10: and and your I goes, well, then you should not 777 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 10: go with him because it's looking like a monster and 778 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 10: he did. 779 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 9: Wow. 780 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you think is going to win that fight? 781 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 10: You know, I feel like Cody has has the tools 782 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 10: to do it. But I think t J is it's savvyer, 783 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 10: he's he's you know, it's a true champion. It's more experienced, 784 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 10: less emotional. I think I feel like tjing my baby 785 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 10: to get into his head. But you know, one punch 786 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 10: from from Cody that can end it. So I do 787 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 10: believe Cody will take it this time. 788 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 6: So if the you FC came Colin for you or 789 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 6: Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender series came Colin, is the 790 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 6: door closed for good? And I ask your wife, but 791 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 6: she's not here last year. 792 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Yah. 793 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 10: She's Ukrainian too, by the way, so neighbors and Poland. 794 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 10: So you probably know the answer to that. But you 795 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 10: know I've said that's the clause in the marriage that 796 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 10: the UFC cause. Okay, then yeah, but you know the 797 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 10: problem is, and as you know, you know, it's a 798 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 10: full time job in itself to be a fighter. 799 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Right runs a busy man. 800 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 10: He did a lot of for Gym's, the book, the documentary. 801 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 10: We have a real estate company. We have a nonprofit 802 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 10: to run. You know, I'm working seven days a week 803 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 10: and been doing so for five years. So and I'm 804 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 10: my father first and foremost sure and uh oh yeah maybe. 805 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 8: Well, all the. 806 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 6: Best to you and your wife and your son, Nico 807 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 6: Liamslife dot org, the Martial Arts Training Center, Systems Training 808 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 6: Center across the so Cal area. The great Marcus Coval 809 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 6: Man can't thank you enough for coming in. 810 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 8: Thank you very much. 811 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 812 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 6: Marcus Cobal with us on the Annik and Florian. I 813 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 6: mean a lot of heavy stuff in there can flow, 814 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 6: for sure. And he's just a great human being and 815 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 6: an inspiration to a lot of us. I remember doing 816 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 6: an interview with him back at a UFC expo back 817 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 6: in the day. And then when you saw the story 818 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 6: that that Liam was gone. Man, it's just it's truly 819 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 6: every every father's worst nightmare. And you know, the only 820 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 6: thing I can say with certainty is that that guy's 821 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 6: handling a lot better than. 822 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: I would have. I tell you what you know that 823 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: to me is a true fighter. You know, to take 824 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: something as intense as fighting in it in an octagon 825 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: against another elite fighter and being able to stay composed 826 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: and find the technique that can go from violent to beautiful. 827 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what. 828 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: That's the mastery of life. That's the mastery of fighting. 829 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: And for him to take one of the hardest shots, 830 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: if not the hardest shot that a man can take, 831 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: losing their child, and to turn it into something beautiful 832 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: like that is just amazing and inspirational. And Marcus is 833 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: a very special guy. 834 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 6: Well, put my man all right, a couple more things 835 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 6: on the Calgary Show, and then we're going to bring 836 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: on Ray Longo. He had to bump long go back 837 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: a half an hour today. 838 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: He is getting wappy. He can wa happy. 839 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 6: Also, don't forget, later in the program, we pay off 840 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 6: the bet from the twenty seventeen Main Event Challenge. So 841 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 6: if you're watching us on Fox Sports dot Com on 842 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 6: YouTube right now, you see a fucking tube of vegemite 843 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 6: sitting in front of me. I haven't even taken the 844 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 6: seal off of this thing yet, and my entire suit 845 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 6: case smells like fucking vegemite. You know, so, and I 846 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 6: know the Australians are rolling their eyes as they're listening 847 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 6: to this right now. When we get to pay off 848 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 6: the bet later, i'll explain the whole vegemite situation, So 849 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 6: nobody needs to get too sensitive early. I know it 850 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 6: can taste good with butter and all that stuff. I 851 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 6: get it. But this is a punishment that I will 852 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 6: be forced to undergo later today. But I want to 853 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 6: get to the co headliner in Calgary because the King 854 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 6: of Rio is back, Ladies and gentlemen, Jose Aldo with 855 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 6: the body shot heard round the world to knock out 856 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens. It was a solar plexus shot. It was 857 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 6: not a liver shot, Yes, and it was the hardest 858 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 6: body punch that I have heard since starting to call 859 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 6: UFC fight eight years ago. 860 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: Yes, right in the solar plexus, or the zyphoid process, 861 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: if you will, and that that's what controls all of 862 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: your breathing, and that that is a very painful shot. 863 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: If you find right where the split is in your ribs, 864 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: where there's a little hole and you're press down there, 865 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty sensitive. Right where that split is, where the 866 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: ribs meet. That's exactly where he hit and it disrupts 867 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: your breathing. It's extremely painful. It can affect, yes, it 868 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: can affect your liver, it can affect your heart, it 869 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: can affect your your lung's ability to breathe. And it 870 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: was a beautiful shot disguised by the right hand of Aldo, 871 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: so he went with the right hand, went upstairs with that. 872 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: It was almost like a little shovel hook to the 873 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: xyphoid process and really hurt a very tough guy in 874 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: Jeremy Stephens. If you know how tough Jeremy Stevens is, 875 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: then you have even more respect to the shot that 876 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: al Do threw through. Now, as far as the fight itself, 877 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: first of all, I was really happy that Aldo won 878 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: the fight because obviously, you know, losing to haul Away 879 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: twice by finish, you know, I'm sure the doubt and 880 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, just the fear of going in there against 881 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: a very dangerous guy with a lot of momentum in 882 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: Jeremy Stevens was very present and he had to defeat 883 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: a few demons there so and then coming back he 884 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: was hurt. Jeremy Stevens hurt him in that round and 885 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: hurt him badly. And I don't know I didn't know 886 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: that Aldo was gonna be able to survive that round. 887 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: He did, He came back and I was very impressed 888 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: with his heart and his will to win. This is 889 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: a Brazilian fighter with still a haull of a lot 890 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: of pride. But one thing that concerned me was the 891 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: fact that it was that same kind of emotion and 892 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: that same similar shot that allowed him to get knocked 893 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: out by Connor McGregor. His right hand was really far down. 894 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: He was kind of rushing in and wasn't so well 895 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: protected and off that center line, and perhaps a guy 896 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: who would have been a little bit more composed in 897 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: that pocket, like a conmerc gregor would have caught him 898 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: with a countercross. So he does need to fix that. 899 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: He got a little emotional during that fight, but it 900 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: was great to see. You know, what you call is 901 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: that the greatest featherweight champion of all time get that win. 902 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 6: And if you're gonna knock out Jeremy Stevens, right that 903 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 6: part of it. He is as physically tough as anybody. Right, 904 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 6: you have to separate him from consciousness right completely by 905 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 6: with a headshot of some kind. You can break his 906 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 6: legs or break his arms, He's gonna fight through all 907 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 6: of that, but landing that type of body shot and 908 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 6: literally crippling a human being, that's how you get Jeremy 909 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 6: Stevens out of there. And that's how Jose Aldo did it. 910 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 6: And I think you hit on a lot of good 911 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 6: points here in the emotion for Jose Aldo, and this 912 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 6: is such a fan favorite. I mean you had to 913 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 6: look far and wide for people who didn't feel genuinely 914 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 6: great for Jose Aldo having accomplished it this weekend. There 915 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 6: were a lot of different sources of the emotions, right, 916 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 6: I think fear certainly is one, like do I still 917 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 6: have it? And even though you can poke holes in 918 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 6: this performance, and I still think he'd be up against 919 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 6: it against maybe Max Holloway or even Brian t City 920 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 6: or take at this point in time, there was that 921 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 6: component to it. There was the fact that he hadn't 922 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 6: finished a man since twenty thirteen. I mean, this is 923 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 6: a guy who dusted everybody in the WEC, and then 924 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 6: when he came to the UFC and fought Ken Flow 925 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 6: in his second UFC fight and other guys, he only 926 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 6: had two UFC finishes coming in, last of which came 927 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 6: against Chan Sung Jung due to injury back in twenty thirteen. 928 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 6: So you talk about a guy waiting to exhale. I mean, 929 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 6: there were so many different components to this win for 930 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 6: Jose Aldo, and to get a first round knockout like that, 931 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 6: this is truly one of the biggest I know, no 932 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 6: championship aligned with it, but this is one of the 933 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 6: biggest wins of his career. 934 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: Well again, for Jeremy Stevens, he was very close to 935 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: a title shot here if he beat Aldo, who was 936 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: probably going to get that next title shot after Ortegas. 937 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: So yet Jeremy Stevens had all the momentum in the world. 938 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: He was a very tough matchup for Jose Aldo. They 939 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: both liked to strike, they both can leg kick, they 940 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: both like to trade in the pocket. And the fact 941 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: that he was able to get the win and in 942 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: this fashion against a guy like Jeremy Stevens who's been 943 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: on such a role again was an amazing win for him. 944 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 6: It seems like there's some encourage news on Max Holloway 945 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 6: and his return, and in all likeshood it will be 946 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 6: Holloway Indoor Tega, but there's a great chance that Joseialdo's 947 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 6: next fight is for the UFC featherweight title. 948 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: And if for Tega wins, he's back in the mix, 949 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: he could go and challenge for that belt. I don't 950 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: think it will be if Holloway wins, but you know, 951 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: certainly it would. He would be very excited if Fortega 952 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: was able to get that win. 953 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 6: And it seems like that is a big reason why 954 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 6: Josealdo is sticking around. I mean, the show money obviously 955 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 6: doesn't hurt, and he's one of the biggest superstars I 956 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 6: think on this roster, and you've really felt that in Calgary, 957 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 6: just the way that this crowd responded to Joseyaldo and 958 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 6: maybe to a lesser extent you want to im j Check, 959 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 6: but Josealdo back in prime position. 960 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: Still the best fighter out of Brazil. 961 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, well right, we don't toss that King of 962 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 6: Rio thing out there lightly, right, He's earned that distinction 963 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 6: for sure. And as the president of Team Florian, we 964 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 6: always like when when former the few guys, the handful 965 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 6: of guys who beat Kem Flow, we always like when 966 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 6: they win fights because it makes that Aldo loss to 967 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 6: camp Flow look better exactly. So that brings us to 968 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 6: Yoanna Youngjcheck not the cleanest performance of her career, but 969 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 6: certainly a dominant one here against Tsha Torres. And I 970 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 6: think for Yoanna there's some similarities to be drawn to 971 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 6: this win and jose Aldo's win, just waiting to exhale, 972 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 6: having some doubt creep in a little bit, and maybe 973 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 6: the exterior for Johanna is such that you don't think 974 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 6: that there's doubt that's crept in, but you can be 975 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 6: sure that you want to question if she could get 976 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 6: back to this point and certainly look good Saturday night. 977 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think so as well. And I think 978 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: that you know, if you looked, you know what they've 979 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: accomplished on paper between Tisha tors and you want a 980 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: Young j Check. You thought that Yoana was going to 981 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: go out there and just, you know, destroyer in the 982 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: first round. But this is why I said, I think 983 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: this is going to be a way tougher fight than 984 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: people think. Titiha was able to go the distance. She 985 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: largely was fighting her behind her wrestling and her takedown attempts. 986 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: You want a Young j Check, I thought showed great 987 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: wrestling defense. She was able to keep it on the feet. 988 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: It seemed like she might have been stunned in one 989 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: of the exchanges I think early on might be the 990 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: first second round. Yeah, but again she was able to 991 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: keep it together an outstrike Tisha Tours stop those takedowns 992 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: and overall pretty much just stop everything that Tisha was doing. 993 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: Tisha really couldn't get a lot and it shows the 994 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: respect that Tisha had for her strike. Yes, for a 995 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: girl like Tsha who really hasn't showed a whole lot 996 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: of wrestling or ground game in her fights or yeah, 997 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: has wanted to to go out there behind her wrestling, 998 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: I thought showed a lot of respect for Juanna, Yeah. 999 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 6: And I think for Tisha Torres, this is a tough 1000 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 6: loss in terms of her championship aspirations too. Straight to 1001 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 6: Jessica and Raj and Yanna m J check and she 1002 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 6: was pretty dominated in both. I mean, there were some 1003 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 6: good signs in the Andrage fight, but and some I 1004 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 6: guess you could argue in this fight as well. But 1005 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 6: I think it's a huge ass for Tisha to get 1006 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 6: back to the top of the heap on the heels 1007 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 6: of what happened this weekend as far as one hundred 1008 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 6: and fifteen pounds is concerned. It's interesting when you think 1009 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 6: about that previous fight between Androje and ym j Check 1010 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 6: and how Yohanna was able to handle a woman in 1011 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 6: Jessica and Josh, who many believe is the toughest fight 1012 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 6: for them in that division. Andrew just gonna fight Covil 1013 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 6: Kievich nama Unis Is on the men. I wouldn't be 1014 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 6: surprised to see young Jycheck get a third fight with Rose, 1015 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 6: even though she's lost the first. 1016 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 10: She just might. 1017 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: And again I thought Rose won that second fight, but 1018 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: there are people who believe that. You know, it was 1019 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: controversial enough where we could see a trilogy, and based 1020 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: on everything you Wanta has done winning six fights in 1021 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: a row, she just might deserve it. Not right now, however, 1022 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and she's gonna have to rectify that 1023 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: fear in the pocket because I think Rose nama Unus 1024 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: has created that. Yeah, y Wanna didn't show that same 1025 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of fear hesitation inside the pocket or whether she 1026 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: wants to stay there or get out. I think Rose 1027 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: has caused that. She needs to get over them. 1028 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 6: And I do believe if Jessiconjraj beats Carolina kobal Keevitch, 1029 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 6: the fight will be nama Unis versus Androje and I 1030 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 6: think most people believe ANDRAJ is the singular toughest matchup 1031 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 6: for thug Rose Nama Yunis. But one hundred and fifteen 1032 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 6: pounds is in good hands as usual and nice to 1033 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 6: have you, Onna youmjcheck back in the mix, always in 1034 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 6: the mix. On the Anakin Flooring Podcast, Raymond Peter Longo, 1035 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 6: let's get to him. 1036 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes, and. 1037 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna puts a hole. 1038 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 9: That's what I want. 1039 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 4: The Ray Longo Minute, John nik and Kenny Florian Podcast. 1040 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 6: Ray Longo, did you not get the memo that we 1041 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 6: were in studio today? 1042 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 10: Man? 1043 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: Where are you? 1044 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 5: I wish I would have gotten I would have came out. 1045 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 5: I feel left out at this point. You guys look 1046 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 5: very professional. 1047 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: Look at the tan on Ray Ray. I saw your 1048 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: tan last week and I'm like, listen, Longo is not 1049 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna outtan me. So I came in prepared today. Nice truck. 1050 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, we had we had clouds the whole week. You 1051 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 9: got luck. 1052 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 6: So what's going on? 1053 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: Man? Do you? 1054 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 6: I mean, can you see us in studio? See how 1055 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 6: beautiful this life today? 1056 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 9: It looks? 1057 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 5: I gotta tell you mean, you guys look better looking. 1058 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 5: And I gotta tell you, but listen, you guys are 1059 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 5: in La. My short film premiere is tomorrow. You have 1060 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 5: to get over there. The La shortest any film. Come on, man, wow, 1061 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 5: it's sixteen minutes. 1062 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 9: You're gonna love it. 1063 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: I'll see it for sure. 1064 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, really good. L a show fast. 1065 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna like lincolnshim Boulevard that. 1066 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it. And what's 1067 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: the name of the film. You gotta be you gotta 1068 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: plug your film? 1069 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 9: Love Lies and Losony? 1070 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: Love Lies and Larceny is the long story? 1071 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 9: Is that what I got? 1072 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: It? Is that a documentary ray? 1073 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 9: What is it? I'll tell you everything. My whole life 1074 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 9: revolved around love lies? Well I never thought about that. 1075 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 9: If you go man Kenny Kenny is becoming some journalist. 1076 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 6: Well, if you go on Instagram at Ray Longo m 1077 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 6: m A, you can see the trailer of which Ray 1078 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 6: Longo is a part. I mean, you have no problem 1079 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 6: just looking like a complete just asshole, mean guy like 1080 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 6: that is very natural for you to look like. 1081 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 9: Really, couldn't we leave it that mean guy? You got 1082 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 9: to put an asshold? He did? 1083 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: He did? He not a mean guy, just a U 1084 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: But you. 1085 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 5: So it's the movies. I'm telling you, you gotta I 1086 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 5: really feel good about this. It was really good. And 1087 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 5: if you see, you're gonna you think I'm in You 1088 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 5: think that scene looked like an a whole mean guy, wait, 1089 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 5: do you see it? 1090 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 7: Well? 1091 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 6: And you said there there was obviously a script, and 1092 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 6: you have a major role in a lot of lines, 1093 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 6: but you were able to veer off script and do 1094 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 6: some ad living during the process. Is that right? 1095 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1096 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 6: I think so, yeah, yeah, he thinks so, I'm no 1097 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 6: spoilers right. 1098 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I don't even know if there was 1099 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 5: a script to everybody else had a script. I didn't 1100 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 5: have a script. 1101 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 6: So the premiere is this Wednesday in Los Angeles, I 1102 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 6: don't think. 1103 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 9: No, it's tomorrow, the first Okay. 1104 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 6: Okay, it's tomorrow. So you're not gonna be out here 1105 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 6: for this red carpet situation, now, you know what. 1106 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 5: I was originally scheduled to go, but I got really 1107 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 5: too many things going on, and they got we just 1108 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 5: had fool guys fight last night, full ramages. A couple 1109 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 5: are gonna turn pro but they everybody killed it. They 1110 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 5: knocked the cover off the ball. I mean, give a 1111 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 5: shout out to Lauram brought to you only Campbell, Dennis 1112 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 5: Bezuka and uh Justin the Kid Montago, great fights man, 1113 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 5: a lot of finishes and guys are looking good. 1114 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 6: Good for you, guys. So if Ken Flow and I 1115 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 6: want to go check out Love, Lies and Larceny tomorrow night, 1116 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 6: I mean, are we on a VIP list? Are we 1117 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 6: buying our own tickets? How exactly does this? 1118 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 9: Meek? You tell me you go and I make the 1119 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 9: phone call guys. 1120 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 6: Boom, all right, because I did see that, you know 1121 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 6: here here, I am in Los Angeles for a week 1122 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 6: for the first time in a long time, and of 1123 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 6: course your movie's premiering, so we might try to see 1124 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 6: if we can't get over there tomorrow night. 1125 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 5: I would love it, love it, and I'll tell you, 1126 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 5: if I would have known you were going out, that 1127 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 5: might have been what pushed me over the. 1128 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 9: Edge to go out. 1129 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: I know. 1130 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 6: Well, see that's too bad because we have an empty 1131 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 6: chair right here on set. 1132 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: He would have had to fight, he would have had 1133 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: to fight Bruce Buffer. Yeah, that's right, I would have been. 1134 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 9: You got Bruce coming in? 1135 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 6: No, he he came and went. He he he said 1136 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 6: he would only come on if he could lead the show. 1137 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 6: So we bumped you back forty five minutes. 1138 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 9: You know, Bruce is Bruce, Bruce. 1139 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: You got buffed today. 1140 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 9: I got buffed out. 1141 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 1142 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 6: All I asked him to do is give me a 1143 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 6: SoundBite that said, you know, fuck off John, and he. 1144 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: Wouldn't do it. 1145 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 6: So oh wow, Ray, so Dustin Poorier. I'm really happy 1146 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 6: for this guy. This is a fighters fighter, a guy 1147 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 6: who was born to be a fighter, and to think 1148 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 6: where he was after that loss to Connor McGregor in 1149 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 6: twenty fourteen, just down and out to see where he 1150 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 6: is right now, top five in terms of UFC wins 1151 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 6: all time, and knocked out the former champion and put 1152 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 6: a nice capstone on the rivalry with Eddie Alvarez this weekend. 1153 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, I thought it was a great fight, 1154 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 5: and you know, a little controversy, but I don't think 1155 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 5: it really you know, should be a part of it, 1156 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 5: because you know, I mean they were both in good 1157 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 5: shape when they stood up, and Eddie was doing good 1158 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 5: with the stand up, so I guess, you know, it 1159 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 5: just whatever happened. So it was I don't know why 1160 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 5: he wanted to throw that elbow in that position, but 1161 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 5: it was a big mistake, and yeah, great fight at 1162 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 5: Dustin POORI and those those guys look like. 1163 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 9: If they fight ten, it's gonna be ten great fights. 1164 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1165 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 6: And what do you think about Jose Aldo against Jeremy Stevens, Man. 1166 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 5: I for the first off is I thought that Jeremy 1167 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 5: Stevens was going to decapitate that guy, and yeah, he 1168 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 5: almost did. I gotta tell you, I thought, I'm really 1169 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 5: happy for Jose Aldo because the position he was in. Yeah, 1170 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 5: you know, after a couple of losses to Holloway, to 1171 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 5: go back in there against the guy that's been wrecking people, 1172 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 5: and you know he's getting up there in years now, 1173 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 5: or you know, at least an experience with fighting. I 1174 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 5: thought that was a phenomenal win for jose Aldo. And 1175 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 5: you gotta love it. You gotta love his win. You 1176 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 5: gotta love Joanna's win, you know, because when you're a 1177 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 5: champion and you go through that adversity after it's really 1178 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 5: really tough to get a win over quality people. And 1179 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 5: they both came through flying colors, man, So I think 1180 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 5: that's a big thing. 1181 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 9: I thought it was a huge thing for both of them. 1182 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 6: All right, before we let you go, it looks like 1183 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 6: you sc two thirty Madison Square Garden in November. It'll 1184 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 6: be Chris Wyman versus grock Hold the second meeting. I 1185 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 6: know a lot of us were hoping to maybe see 1186 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 6: Whyman fight jacka day. So's a new blood, new fight, 1187 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 6: but the promotion choosing to go with the rematch here. 1188 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 6: I know you got a lot of respect for Luke Rockhold. 1189 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on Act two between your boy and Luke 1190 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 6: Rockol coming up in November. 1191 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it will obviously, I think it's gonna 1192 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 5: be a different result, and I think it'll be great 1193 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 5: for Chris to redeem himself. I think that's what he 1194 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 5: wants and it's always great to come back and be 1195 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 5: the guy that that once beat is. So I'm looking 1196 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 5: forward to that fight. I think I think we're going 1197 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 5: to see a completely different fight. 1198 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: All right. 1199 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 6: Last thing, you have two hundred dollars coming your way 1200 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 6: if you end up in Moscow with Morob de Vilish 1201 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 6: Billy on September fifteenth, Right, So if you end up 1202 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 6: going and not backing out, you'll make two hundred dollars. 1203 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 6: We're gonna give you another opportunity to win one hundred 1204 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 6: dollars today, But. 1205 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 9: I have Where do I have to go? I got 1206 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 9: a tattoo something? What do I gotta do? 1207 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 6: No, you don't have to get a tattoo. You need 1208 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 6: to tell us who's gonna win between Cody Garbrandt and 1209 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 6: TJ Dila Shaw. And if you get it right, your 1210 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 6: two hundred goes up to three hundred. If you get 1211 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 6: it wrong, if you get if you get it wrong, 1212 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 6: we take fifty bucks away from your two hundred. Garbrandt 1213 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 6: Dila Shaw this weekend pick them fight. Essentially, according to 1214 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 6: Las Vegas, TJ maybe a slight favorite in some parts. 1215 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 6: Who do you think wins the main event at UFC 1216 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 6: two twenty seven. 1217 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm chipping in a whole three dollars to that two 1218 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: hundred or potential three hundred? 1219 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 9: Let me thank you. 1220 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 5: So, I'm looking at the studio you guys are, and 1221 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 5: I think we got belfed the end. You guys, this 1222 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 5: is a professional studio I'm looking at Are you kidding? Man? 1223 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 5: I think TJ's got more tools to win, but I'm 1224 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 5: gonna go with garbrand I think he makes the adjustment. 1225 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 9: I think he caught him the last time. And I 1226 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 9: don't know. 1227 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 5: For some reason, I think I'm gonna I'm just gonna 1228 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 5: go with garbrand I think it's a it is a 1229 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 5: pick them fight, but for one hundred big ones on 1230 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 5: the line, I'm going with Garbran. 1231 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: All right. 1232 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 6: So if Cody Garbrant wins and you go to Moscow 1233 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 6: three hundred dollars from the Anakin or In podcast and 1234 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 6: we're not what if. 1235 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 5: I walk What if I walk around with Kabebe's hat 1236 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 5: on for more than a half hour in Russia? 1237 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 8: Well? 1238 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 6: No, well, I mean there are a lot of incentive 1239 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 6: we can get you up to five hundred dollars if 1240 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 6: you if you do that, anything else, anything else before 1241 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 6: we let you go. 1242 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 5: Uh do we mention love Wise and Lost in Me 1243 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 5: a film festival? 1244 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 9: Did we get to And I don't even. 1245 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 6: I think, But I'm glad you brought it back up, guys. 1246 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 9: And I can't wait for you guys to see it. 1247 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 9: I'm very excited. 1248 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 6: Well, congratulations on that. I think it's only going to 1249 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 6: lead to future, bigger, more high profile roles for you. 1250 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 6: So congrats on that. We'll try to check it out 1251 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 6: tomorrow night. And if we really decide to do that, 1252 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 6: we're not going. 1253 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 5: But if we do decide, you're going you're going and 1254 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 5: I'm getting in there. 1255 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 9: All right. 1256 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 6: We'll call you after the show, right, Thank you, buddy. 1257 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 9: Very awesome guys. Thanks the Ray. 1258 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,280 Speaker 6: Longo minute every week here on the Anican Floring Podcast. 1259 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 6: You gotta check out that trailer man. 1260 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: I haven't, I haven't yet. I bet it's good. 1261 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 10: Out of his. 1262 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 6: Mind, Out of his mind is so natural being a 1263 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 6: killer that Ray Longos. 1264 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 1: I could easily see him in the movies. Yeah, like yeah, 1265 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: all right. 1266 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 6: A couple other things on the Calgary Show, and then 1267 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 6: in about five minutes we are going to make our 1268 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 6: picks or Ken Flow is going to make his picks. 1269 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 6: On UFC to twenty seven, Alexander Hernandez with a win 1270 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 6: over Olibier Obama Mercier. Hernandez pretty critical of this performance, 1271 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 6: but I think a lot of us are excited to 1272 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 6: see this Adonis looking lightweight and to see how far 1273 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 6: he can take it because Obama Mercier is no slouch. 1274 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 6: And the fact that Hernandez showed you the wrestling shops. 1275 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 6: You know, wrestling was his first martial art, right. I 1276 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 6: think we got a little bit caught up in the 1277 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,479 Speaker 6: striking because of what he did to benil Dar Yusch. 1278 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 6: But for me, this is still a developing fighter at 1279 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 6: twenty five years old, but a five tool player and 1280 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 6: a guy who I think is going to be mentioned 1281 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 6: in these elite lightweight circles before it's too long. 1282 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: This is only his second fight in the UFC. It's 1283 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: amazing the maturity that he shows and the intelligence that 1284 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: he has to game plan against tough like Benil Daryush 1285 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: andam I mean, his approach and how he goes about it. Again, 1286 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: I was pretty blown away. And this is a guy 1287 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 1: talk about belief, Dustin Poorrie, this is a guy who 1288 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: truly believes he will be a champion one day. Yeah, 1289 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: he probably has a date all already set up in 1290 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: his head. He said in two years? Is that what 1291 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 1: he said? By twenty twenty, I'll be champing the UFC. 1292 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: So I kind of believe him. And he's already showing 1293 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: some high level skills and beating some high level guys 1294 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: in the toughest division of the UFC. To do that 1295 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: in two fights in your career in the UFC is 1296 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: just amazing. So I think sky's the limit for this kid. 1297 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see him as a 1298 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: champion he's only gonna get better. 1299 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 6: And yeah, not a great result for Olivier Obama Mercia. 1300 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 6: He was seven and two in the UFC coming in 1301 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 6: and I think sort of underappreciated in terms of what 1302 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 6: he had accomplished on paper. And when you look at 1303 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 6: guys in Canada that have the best chance to realize 1304 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 6: at UFC Championship, right, I think for a while, Misha 1305 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 6: Serkunov was a name that we thought might be able 1306 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 6: to emerge and that came to a more than screeching halt. 1307 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 6: Obviously a lot of people thought, yes, one hundred and 1308 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 6: fifty five pounds is tough, but Ken Obama Mercier eventually 1309 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,439 Speaker 6: get there. I bring it up in the context of 1310 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 6: just how dominant the United States has been historically in 1311 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 6: the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and I posted this on Instagram, 1312 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 6: Kenny not all that long ago, sixty five American UFC 1313 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 6: champions next best Brazil with fourteen. It's been amazing how 1314 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 6: the US has done. And I bring it up because 1315 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 6: Matthews Nicolao is a Brazilian guy in the flyweight division 1316 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 6: that a lot of people thought might have the chops 1317 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 6: to be a future champion. Still a young guy in 1318 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 6: his own right, but was undefeated in the UFC and 1319 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 6: think about us going to Brazil several times a year 1320 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 6: and his run comes to an end courtesy of Dustin Nortiz. 1321 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 6: And I just thought that was sort of a big 1322 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 6: takeaway for me that these two young guys, Obama Mercier 1323 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,399 Speaker 6: and Nico Lao went in. I thought both of them 1324 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 6: were on sort of a champion chip trajectory or getting there, 1325 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 6: and so yeah. 1326 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I saw the 1327 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: same thing in Oam necessarily. I think he was a 1328 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: guy that really could represent Canada very well and fight 1329 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: at a high level. Did I see him as a champion? 1330 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: Probably not. I think speed wise, he's a little bit off, 1331 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: doesn't move as well as I would have liked to 1332 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: see him on the feet, and I think that's what 1333 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: cost him. It seemed like he was very gun shy 1334 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: on the feet. He was not throwing combinations or effective 1335 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: combinations against Hernandez. And I want to go back to 1336 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: Hernandez's back take. You guys needed to spend more time 1337 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: on that, y. No, no, no, it was a beautiful 1338 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: back to. He sat up in a half guard, kind 1339 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 1: of like octopus guard, and he dragged him forward against 1340 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: Oam is a guy who's on the judo national team 1341 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: in Canada. He trains a lot of Brazilian jitsu day 1342 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: in and day out, and Hernandez hit him with a 1343 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 1: nasty back take, very similar to the one that bj 1344 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: Penn hit against Matt Hughes back in the day, and 1345 00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: it was absolutely gorgeous. Got underneath that arm, took the 1346 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: back of Olivia Obamarcier and just made him look silly 1347 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: there from that position. It is a high level move 1348 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: that he hit, And yeah, I didn't think he had 1349 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: that kind of jiu jitsu or back taking him, but wow. 1350 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 6: And it's interesting because a lot of people sort of 1351 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 6: balked when Alexander Hernandez excuse me, got that number next 1352 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 6: to his name so quickly after beating Benil daryushen forty 1353 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 6: two seconds and Olivia Obamarcier, who at times had been 1354 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 6: ranked and fell out of the rankings, so probably was 1355 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 6: sixteen or seventeen going in, and you know, now he'll 1356 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,479 Speaker 6: probably become sort of a gatekeeper type as he tries 1357 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 6: to work his way back to the top fifteen. But 1358 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 6: as we spin it forward for Hernandez and you look 1359 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 6: at the guys above him. He doesn't necessarily want top 1360 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 6: five competition right now, you know. I think he is 1361 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 6: looking for somebody in that six to ten range. Barbosa, Gate, Cheep, Pettis, 1362 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 6: diaz Iaquinta vic and not necessarily the elite of the 1363 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 6: elities yet. 1364 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: And super smart. He's still young, he's still coming into 1365 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: his own he's still gaining UFC experience. What kills me 1366 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: is when these guys come in and they just want 1367 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: to fight the best right off the bat, without the experience, 1368 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: you know. Unfortunately, that's like I kind of had to 1369 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: do it right off the bat pretty early in my career. 1370 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: I wish I had way more experience before I took 1371 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: those fights on a guy like Alex Hernandez, he's gonna 1372 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: do it right, He's gonna get the right fights. He's 1373 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: going to build up his record and build up his 1374 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: experience so when he does get that title shot, he 1375 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: nails it. And since it's the same division. 1376 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 6: By the way, another name that has been bandied about 1377 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 6: for Dustin Porier Kevin Lee. I think that fight might 1378 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 6: have have legs as well, depending on what they do 1379 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 6: with Ferguson and depending on what his timeline is Porier 1380 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 6: has made it clear he's not gonna sit idle for 1381 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 6: twelve months, and if you know anything about Dustin Pourier, 1382 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 6: that's certainly dovetails with who he is and what he is, 1383 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 6: But he would wait six months for a championship opportunity. 1384 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 6: And I think depending on Ferguson's health, if they make 1385 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 6: the Kabib Connor fight, you know, maybe Dustin Porier gets 1386 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 6: asked to prepare for that date, not onlike Alexander Volkov 1387 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 6: weighed in for the steep A DC situation, I think 1388 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 6: Ferguson's health is a big wildcard in this whole situation 1389 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 6: because if Tony is healthy and ready to go, I 1390 00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 6: think he's gonna fight Dustin. 1391 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'd be a tremendous fight as well. 1392 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 6: All right, well, great showcase for the UFC and Calgary, 1393 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 6: and thanks to all the fans and the crowd. You 1394 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 6: certainly made it festive for us over the weekend. But 1395 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 6: we are in the midst of a huge back to 1396 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 6: back at his UFC two twenty seven Dillashow versus Garbrand 1397 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 6: two at Staples Center right here in Los Angeles on 1398 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 6: Saturday night. To that end, let's make some picks. Let's 1399 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 6: get some main event challenge. 1400 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge. 1401 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: The time is most definitely Flori. I finished fight. How 1402 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: do you everything both well. 1403 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 4: To win the main event challenge? To John Nnick and 1404 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 4: Kenny Florian podcast. 1405 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 6: All right, team Annic, let it eighty eight seventy seven 1406 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 6: going into UFC Calgary, Team Florian gets it done for 1407 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 6: a fifth consecutive weeks. 1408 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Just a little comeback kit, So five to. 1409 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 6: Four not a huge discrepancy. Slowly but surely kids. So 1410 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 6: it was a sixteen point lead, it's down to eight 1411 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 6: ninety two eighty four joining us to make pick today. 1412 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 6: And this is sharp Cat right here. We need a 1413 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 6: rally here on Twitter you can find him at m 1414 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 6: A M M A l OTN. That is MMA loc 1415 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 6: of the night. Man pret Jahas is with us. Man pree, 1416 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 6: my man, how are you? 1417 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 7: I'm fucking awesome, man, it's I appreciate you guys having 1418 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 7: me on. I'm fucking psyche. I've been thinking about this 1419 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 7: all week. Let's get it going. Let's get t Manic 1420 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 7: on the board. 1421 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 6: Man, I'm gonna get you back next week just because 1422 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 6: of the way you started this conversation to go all 1423 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 6: right UFC two to twenty seven Dillashow versus garb Brand two, 1424 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 6: the first fight we're gonna pick today, actually the featured 1425 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 6: bout of the prelims. You can see these on FX. 1426 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 6: A couple of rank bantam Wait's Pedro Munos, the minus 1427 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 6: two to seventy five favorite. Brett John's coming back at 1428 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 6: plus two fifteen Munyos is one four of his last 1429 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 6: five is coming off a loss though here Ken Flil 1430 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 6: that was against John Dodson by split decision in March. 1431 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 6: Brett John's of course fifteen and zero before running into 1432 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 6: Aljamain and Sterling in Atlantic City in April. Man Prete 1433 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 6: will start with you, who do you like? 1434 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 7: This is a pretty interesting classroo stars we got here. 1435 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 7: Both of these guys really like to walk forward. They 1436 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 7: really like to stalk their opponents. When you talk about Munya, 1437 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 7: you're looking for a guy that's looking to rock you, 1438 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 7: turn you into a wrestler, and then eventually clapped down 1439 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 7: on that bear trap, which is is guillotine. You're talking 1440 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 7: about a guy who's also ranked eight at the Bantuoy 1441 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 7: division with four point one nine strikes landed per minute. 1442 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 7: So it's a pretty freaking high out output for a 1443 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 7: guy at the bantoy division. The thing with him is 1444 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,919 Speaker 7: he really has no fear when he's walking these guys down. 1445 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 7: You're talking about his fight with John Doddson at rob 1446 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 7: Fund where he's eating shots but still you know, staying composed. 1447 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 7: He had a ship swarm of strikes against Russell Jone. 1448 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 7: They composed and eventually guys playing the guilty sub. But 1449 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 7: he does throw a lot of light kicks and front kIPS, 1450 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 7: which I think is gonna, you know, really keep Aligro hesitant. 1451 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 7: He's going to keep busy when he's not in the 1452 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 7: boxing range and with his black belt BJJ, you know, 1453 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 7: he's not really diving for takedowns. He's not really looking 1454 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 7: to get it to the ground where he's probably you know, 1455 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 7: the most safe. With John, you're looking at a guy 1456 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 7: who's coming forward to get the takedown and nine heavy 1457 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 7: shots him on top. His boxing is decent enough, but 1458 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 7: he eats a lot of shots. You're talking about Welsh 1459 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 7: with a huge ogan. 1460 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 8: Uh. 1461 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 7: When he is on top, he doesn't really look too 1462 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 7: true position. However, his ground and pound is no drop. 1463 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 7: Just ask Albert Morales. He had a really bad match 1464 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 7: with Dalgo, who was just a strong arrestler, better versatile striker. 1465 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 7: I think it's going to come down to who gets 1466 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 7: onto the back foot more and uh, and how well 1467 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 7: Brett Johns is with his defensive wrestling. So if Johnson 1468 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 7: is lazy with the takedowns, which he wasn't Morales and 1469 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 7: quock fights, Uh, it should be pretty easy to knock 1470 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 7: onto that guilt team for Pedro Muno. So I think 1471 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 7: Pedromnios will eventually get the sub. 1472 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 9: Uh. 1473 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 7: Brett Jonson is going to make that mistake, and yeah, 1474 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 7: we'll see another guilt team finished with Pedro Munios, probably 1475 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 7: second Rolf. 1476 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 6: Pedro Munio is to pick for man Free and uh, 1477 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 6: I think I might have found my guy here. 1478 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: He did his homework and you did your homework and 1479 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: finding the right. 1480 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 6: Guy to go and pick lock of the night Camp 1481 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 6: fell Who do you like Munio's or John's? 1482 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna go with Munyos. I think 1483 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Munios uh everything just a little bit better than Brett Jones, 1484 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be the difference here. I 1485 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: think between his ground game, his power on the feed. 1486 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I think he puts together the same kind of combinations 1487 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I think he hits just a little bit harder, and 1488 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: I think he's just a little bit cleaner everywhere, So 1489 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: I think Munos gets it done as well. 1490 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,160 Speaker 6: All right, next up, this will be your pay per 1491 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 6: view opener. I believe cub Swanson. He's dropped two in 1492 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 6: a row, of course to Brian Ortegan Frankie Edgar, but 1493 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 6: as such he is a whopping plus three twenty five 1494 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 6: underdog here against Hanato Moikano. Moikano the minus four to 1495 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 6: fifty favorite at least here early during fight week only 1496 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 6: pro loss for Moykano to T City, and he was convincing. 1497 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 6: I thought in his last fight, a dominant win over 1498 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 6: the Bostonian Calvin Cater that was a UFC two to 1499 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 6: twenty three in Brooklyn, Man pried, who do you like here, 1500 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 6: Cub Swanson or Hanato Moykano. 1501 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 7: So both these guys are victims of that T City 1502 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 7: guillotine special. You know, Mike Cono a little bit a 1503 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 7: little bit more reckless with the US warning an entire 1504 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 7: fight only had about two minutes left and he could 1505 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 7: have had the victory over He's City. But McConnell is 1506 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 7: very smart. Beside that one gaff you know, he's very 1507 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 7: aware he where he is in the octagon. He's not 1508 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 7: afraid to get his Usain bolt on and get get 1509 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 7: out of that positions. Uh. He show us great at 1510 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 7: fight IQ when he fought Stevens. You know, he really 1511 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 7: started off to fight as a striker, but he saw 1512 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 7: that Stevens was in a bad position, not in his 1513 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 7: regular stance. Eventually got that takedown and he's just you know, 1514 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 7: he's just a very small Farday and that stiff jab 1515 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,919 Speaker 7: of his is just ridiculous. You know, he's he's long, 1516 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 7: he knows how to use that range and if he's 1517 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,479 Speaker 7: a little bit out of range, he'll throw those chopping 1518 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 7: leg kicks as well. So Cubs Swanson has kind of 1519 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 7: showed an inability to adapt, especially in that second fight 1520 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 7: against Frank Edgar. You know, we got what we got 1521 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 7: and uh, sorry guys, you guys got me a little 1522 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 7: head sprint up in here. But regardless, I see Mokanna 1523 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 7: going with the decision victory, you know, very technically sound 1524 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 7: with his uh, with his striking. I think he's gonna 1525 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 7: be able to keep Cub Shonson on that long job 1526 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 7: and it's gonna be a long night for Cubswonson. 1527 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 6: Ken Flow. I can sit here and say I was 1528 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 6: surprised to see that plus three twenty five number next 1529 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 6: to Cub Swanson's name, but Vegas usually knows right, and 1530 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 6: they're not usually off by this margin right more often 1531 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 6: than not in mixed martial arts, these minus four to 1532 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 6: fifty favorite types do come through Your thoughts on Moi 1533 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 6: Kano and Swanson. 1534 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh this is This is interesting for me because while 1535 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 1: I do think Moi Kano is going to win this fight, 1536 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I think that on the feed, Cub Swanson probably has 1537 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 1: more tools and listen, if you can get Cub at 1538 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: this price right for you gamblers out there, I think 1539 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: this is the one you kind of have to go 1540 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: for for for the gambling community. I think Moi Kano's 1541 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna win, but Swanson absolutely has the ability to 1542 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 1: win this fight and win it by finish on the 1543 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 1: feed against Mokano. He's that dangerous and Moikano will strike 1544 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: with Cub, So I just think Moikano is just a 1545 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: little bit taller, a little bit rangier. He's better on 1546 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the ground. Cub is gonna be faster on his feet, 1547 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: But I think moy Kano is a very good fighter 1548 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,800 Speaker 1: and learned a lot from that t City fight. 1549 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tricky too, because like in our format, you 1550 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 6: pick up four points if cups wants and beats Moykano 1551 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 6: so huge. Well, we'll let you think about it this week. Yeah, 1552 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 6: it seems like a lean there, toy Tanato Moykano all right, 1553 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 6: man pre co headliner Demitrius Johnson the minus four seventy 1554 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 6: five favorite, right, I mean DJ and Moykano in that 1555 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 6: same price range. So DJ the prohibitive favorite here to 1556 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 6: successfully defend his UFC title for a twelfth consecutive time, 1557 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 6: and say what you want about his strength of schedule, 1558 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 6: and people certainly have and they will, but eleven title 1559 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 6: defenses is just absurd. Henry Shudo getting a second crack here? Man, 1560 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 6: pret he's at plus three point fifty title fight, so 1561 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 6: we will need the round and the method of victory 1562 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 6: mm A lock of the night. Who do you like here? 1563 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 7: So, going into this matchup once it was actually announced, 1564 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 7: so I really wanted to, you know, take a look 1565 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 7: at Suhudo. I knew he was going to be a 1566 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 7: big underdog. I was trying to find reasons to bet him. 1567 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 7: He had three fights after that DJ loss in the 1568 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 7: Wilson Hayes fight, he really showed some improvement in striking, 1569 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 7: really showed like kind of some reckless abandon and was 1570 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 7: able to you know, land some power shots on Wilson Hayes, 1571 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 7: eventually finishing him. But if you watch that Sergio Petties flight, 1572 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 7: you know he he was getting a little bit pieced 1573 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 7: up by Suhudo or Bi Pedis on the feet, and 1574 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 7: you know that's when he kind of went to his wrestling, 1575 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 7: went to his base and fighted it more safe and 1576 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 7: eventually got that three round decision. Uh. And on the 1577 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 7: other hand, DJ is just starling on his guys. You 1578 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 7: know what I mean That Ray borrif I was just 1579 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,640 Speaker 7: ridiculous that that submission was insane. Suhudro has made improvements, 1580 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,759 Speaker 7: but DJ is just so far ahead of the game already. 1581 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 7: I think the fact that Suhudro's only real success in 1582 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 7: that first fight was that sneak inside tripped that land on. 1583 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 7: DJ didn't really get to, you know, hold that top 1584 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 7: position for too long. But I think eventually DJ is 1585 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 7: going to eventually find that that TKO once again. I'm 1586 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 7: gonna say it goes a little bit longer, maybe a 1587 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 7: little bit more hesitant DJH. So let's say third round 1588 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 7: TKO Dimitri Johnson. Let's go. 1589 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 6: N no denying Sahudo's improvement since that first meeting that 1590 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,879 Speaker 6: was April twenty sixteen, back to back wins for Sehudo 1591 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,480 Speaker 6: over Wilson, Haysen, Sergio Pettis, but completely different striking coaches 1592 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 6: and really a striking approach since we saw in April 1593 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 6: of twenty sixteen, your thoughts on what we might see 1594 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,560 Speaker 6: this weekend. 1595 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,839 Speaker 1: Right, and Matt Pretz said it. You know, for Demetrius Johnson, 1596 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 1: if they're running a four hundred meter run, Demetrius Johnson 1597 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: is basically two hundred meters ahead of everybody in that 1598 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: division already, so it's gonna be very difficult for you 1599 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 1: to catch up. Now, Henry Shudo has probably made up 1600 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: some ground there, He's probably maybe only like fifty to 1601 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 1: one hundred meters behind, but it's still fifty or one 1602 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 1: hundred meters behind. Right, Demetrius Johnson just has so many weapons, 1603 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 1: and there's so many ways for him to win this fight. Now, 1604 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: for Suhudo, anything can happen in a fight ride you 1605 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: can knock out anybody. It happens, but The way that 1606 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: Suhudo can win this fight is by neutering Demetrius Johnson. Basically, 1607 01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: be all the way on the outside, get him to 1608 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: respect the hand, and take him down repeatedly. You're talking 1609 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: about Suhudo, a guy who is an Olympic gold medalist wrestler. 1610 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: Demitrius Johnson is very good with his wrestling, but certainly 1611 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: not at the level of a Henry Sujudo. And I 1612 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: think Suhudo hits just hard enough and fast enough where 1613 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 1: he can get respect to set up those takedowns very well. 1614 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: But I just don't see it happening. I think it's 1615 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a tougher fight and certainly a longer fight 1616 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: than the first time around. But I see Demetrius Johnson 1617 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 1: winning this fight. Let's go by decision. 1618 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 6: DJ by decision for Ken Flow is the pick to click. Yeah, 1619 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 6: first fight two minutes and forty nine seconds, and I 1620 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 6: know from Suhuto standpoint, he felt like there's not even 1621 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 6: much to analyze there because the fight was over before it. 1622 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance to really show what he could do. 1623 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, main event, man, you actually benham Waight 1624 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 6: Championship rematch TJ Dila Shaw minus one twenty Cody Garbrandt 1625 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 6: minus one ten. So you do get an underdog point 1626 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 6: here on our show for Cody, so Dila Sharer garbrand 1627 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 6: for you Man Prida and ultimately how do they get 1628 01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 6: it done. 1629 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 7: So looking back at the first fight, which was their 1630 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 7: last fight for both of them, TJ was really showing, 1631 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 7: you know, paying some dues with his movement. I thought 1632 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 7: he was winning that first round until he got caught 1633 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 7: at the end. The good thing in this fight was 1634 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 7: that Tej's IQ and his corners fight IQ really showcase. 1635 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 7: In the first exchange that dropped TJ. He came in 1636 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 7: from the south ball position, but in that second exchange 1637 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 7: where he ultimately got to finish, she quickly changed that 1638 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 7: right before he got into the pocket with Cordy Garbrandt 1639 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 7: got into the orthodox position pretty much through the same combination, 1640 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,560 Speaker 7: but he was just a little bit out of the 1641 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 7: way of Cordy Guardbrand's winging hooks and he was able 1642 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 7: to get that finish. It's just small things like that 1643 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 7: which I think will eventually give TJ to the edge. 1644 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 7: And a pick a fight like this where you know 1645 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 7: either guy landing a bomb could win, I gotta go 1646 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 7: with TJ Dilshaw. You know, I think it's going to 1647 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 7: be kind of like the first fight. TJ is going 1648 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,400 Speaker 7: to feel him out in the first round, see if 1649 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 7: Cody's made any adjustments, and eventually, you know, make those 1650 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 7: dustments on adjustments and get that finished in the second 1651 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 7: hand once again. 1652 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 6: All right, round two for Dila Shaw. I mean one 1653 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,759 Speaker 6: thing I like in this fight, and I'm not giving 1654 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 6: my opinion here because I'm calling the fight. I think 1655 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,360 Speaker 6: if you can find a prop, some sort of underprop, 1656 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 6: whether it's under four and a half round, I just 1657 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,200 Speaker 6: I don't see this thing go in the distance with 1658 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 6: just dropped. 1659 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 7: The fight doesn't go to decision. And it was like 1660 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 7: minus two sixty. 1661 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 6: Five okay, yeah, right, so the price is kind of 1662 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 6: prohibitive there. But see how mma, lock of the night 1663 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 6: all over right, give me that problem number. We like that, bro, 1664 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 6: we like it, Ken Flow, Dila Shaw, Garbret, who do 1665 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 6: you like? 1666 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely fascinating fight again. I'll never forget that image of TJ. 1667 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 1: Dillashaw after the fight in his face, just yelling that 1668 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: primal scream. Just amazing stuff. So yeah, listen, I didn't 1669 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: think that TJ fought the best fight against Cody Garbrett. 1670 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 1: He was playing with fire throughout that whole fight. I 1671 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: thought that his approach was wrong, and I also thought 1672 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: that Cody got away from his strategy. Cody started out 1673 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: as a counter striker, and you know, we see him 1674 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: as this explosive guy with tremendous offense. What makes Cody 1675 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 1: garbrand great is his counter offense, his ability to counter you, 1676 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 1: its ability to make you miss, and then he'll come 1677 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 1: back with ferocity. There's no better demonstration of that than 1678 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: in the fight against dominic Cruz, who is known as 1679 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 1: a counter fighter himself. And the great part of that 1680 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: was that he got Dominick to come forward. He was 1681 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 1: patient against perhaps the most patient fighter, or what was 1682 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 1: the most patient fighter in Dominica Cruz. He lost his 1683 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: patience against TJ. Doleshat he caught him in the first round. 1684 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: He said, you know what, I got this guy's number. 1685 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock him out in the second round. Did 1686 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 1: not pan out that way. He has tremendous eyes. He 1687 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,599 Speaker 1: has tremendous vision to see a lot of strikes. That's 1688 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 1: why he's able to counter you and move his head 1689 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 1: and move his feet the way he does and kind 1690 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: of point at you and laugh and you know, pop 1691 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and lock during a fight. But what he didn't see 1692 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 1: so well, and what maybe he doesn't see so well 1693 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 1: is the kicking game. And TJ. Dillshaw has a very 1694 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: tricky kicking game, primarily because, as Matt Preedz said, he 1695 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,719 Speaker 1: switches his stance very well, so you don't know where 1696 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the kick is coming from. Cody did not see that kick. 1697 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: He got hurt by it, and that allowed TJ to 1698 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 1: eventually get the knockout win because I think he was 1699 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: still a little bit stunned from that shot. Now, the 1700 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,719 Speaker 1: way he did it was very dangerous. That was Cody's domain. 1701 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 1: You cannot stand in the pocket and trade like that 1702 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 1: with someone like Cody. He was lucky to do it. 1703 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 1: Cody was a little bit slower. Why because I think 1704 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 1: he was still hurt from that kick. Now TJ can 1705 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: fight better, Cody could fight better. Both these guys. I 1706 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,040 Speaker 1: think TJ has more weapons, but I think that the 1707 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: way that these guys match up, I think Cody wins 1708 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: this fight. And again I don't know if it's because 1709 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I want to see these guys fight for a third time. 1710 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: I think it's it could perhaps be the most fascinating 1711 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 1: trilogy in UFC history, based on their skill, based on 1712 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 1: the fact that you have two fighters in their prime 1713 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: going at it, and the story behind it. It is 1714 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: just fascinating to me. I love both these fighters. I 1715 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: think these are two fighters that are taking the game 1716 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 1: to the next level as well, truly with mixed martial 1717 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: arts skill. This is a hard one for me to pick. 1718 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: I love both of these guys. I am gonna go 1719 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 1: with Cody this one. 1720 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 6: I think he gets the finish. 1721 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,679 Speaker 1: I think he gets the finish. Actually, you know what 1722 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with. 1723 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 6: Decision for Cody, all right, decision for Cody Garbrant. How 1724 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 6: about that? 1725 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 9: All right? 1726 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,599 Speaker 1: He better stayed disciplined and he better stay patient. He's 1727 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: got to fight the same way and have that same approach. 1728 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: He cannot force the knockout. He got a little excited 1729 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 1: in this one against TJ, who's just too damn dangerous 1730 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 1: with his offense. 1731 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 6: And I will say most of the sharp guys I've 1732 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 6: talked to this early on in fight week have landed 1733 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 6: on that Cody Garbrand's side. But it is still very 1734 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,679 Speaker 6: early at MMA. L otn Man preach A has great job, 1735 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 6: my man today, I can guarantee we'll have you back 1736 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 6: before the year is out. Thank you for the time, 1737 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 6: and we look forward to talking to you down the line. 1738 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 7: Man good, I'd try a quick exclusive for your listeners, 1739 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 7: real quick. I'm just dropping my Dog of the Night play. 1740 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 7: I got jj Aldrich one unit at plus two thirty six. 1741 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 7: So hop on that way you guys. 1742 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 8: Can you're thanks for having you love it. 1743 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 6: I get free play on the way out from Man 1744 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 6: Preet there. He likes JJ Aldrich at plus money against 1745 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,440 Speaker 6: Polianna Vianna. 1746 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 1: And he picked TJ. 1747 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,759 Speaker 6: He picked he did pick Delaw. 1748 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 1: I finished for you. 1749 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 6: Uh he picked delas Shah Yeah by round two, t K. 1750 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 1: All right, all right. 1751 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,479 Speaker 6: The last thing we're gonna do today, I'm gonna be 1752 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 6: paying off this twenty seventeen Main Event challenge lost to 1753 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 6: Ken Flow. So the loser has to eat a piece 1754 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 6: of bread. Flip that over. Okay, I know you're a germaphobe, yes, 1755 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 6: so all right, So the loser of the Main Event 1756 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 6: Challenge in twenty seventeen has to eat a piece of 1757 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 6: bread with vegemite. Now, if you don't know what vegemite is, 1758 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,200 Speaker 6: you're not Australian. For starters, but it is uh. It 1759 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 6: says vitality starts with breakfast. But I'm going to read 1760 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 6: an email from one of our Australian listeners before we 1761 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 6: get started. Hi, guys, just an Aussie here who wants 1762 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 6: to make sure you consume the vegemite the correct way. 1763 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 6: Many YouTube videos and podcasts have Americans trying vegemite, but 1764 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 6: they all do it the wrong way. They put way 1765 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 6: too much vegemite on a slice of bread with no butter. Wrong. 1766 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,920 Speaker 6: Nobody eats vegemite like that here in Australia. It's way 1767 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 6: too strong. What to do? You get a soft white 1768 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 6: slice of bread, or a really soft bread roll, or 1769 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 6: a lightly toasted slice, and first firstly spread a very 1770 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 6: generous amount of butter on. Then spread a small amount 1771 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,639 Speaker 6: of vegemite over the bread. There will be more butter 1772 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 6: than vegemite. Use enough vegemite to thinly cover the bread 1773 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 6: but not overwhelm. Maybe about an index fingernail amount of 1774 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,599 Speaker 6: vegemite at most. I'm gonna read that line again for you. 1775 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 6: Maybe about an index fingernail amount of vegemite at most. 1776 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 6: This is how we do it here in Australia, and 1777 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 6: you might even like it. No need to reply. Just 1778 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 6: wanted you to do it the right way. Cheers. So 1779 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 6: Toby Crocker, thank you man. Issue is this is not 1780 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 6: suppose to be enjoyable for me. This is come on, Mike, 1781 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 6: have it. Vegebate is. Vegemite is very strong. Obviously you 1782 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,600 Speaker 6: know the smell will will will buckle your knee, not 1783 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 6: like actually the breath of our Literally you smell this stuff, 1784 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 6: it'll buckle your knee. Man, So Ken Flow can put 1785 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 6: on as much as as he wants, knowing what he's 1786 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 6: losing the twenty eighteen main events. 1787 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,439 Speaker 1: And that's the thing is that he will get me back. 1788 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 1: John will get me back. So I have to be 1789 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 1: somewhat nice here. Know what they say a fingernail? No, 1790 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 1: you do whatever you But what did they say a fingernail? 1791 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 6: Fingernail? I mean if I were you, I would be 1792 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 6: you know, well I don't. 1793 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do this. Uh, let's just put a little bit. 1794 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 1: So are you doing the whole piece of bread? Am 1795 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: I spreading it? Am I a little corner? What are 1796 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 1: we doing here? 1797 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 6: I think I'll eat, Like do you have to eat? Yeah? 1798 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 6: I think I have to eat the whole piece, the 1799 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 6: whole piece of bread and not looking forward to this 1800 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 6: yeast extract. Huh, we'll do now, you can do more now, 1801 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 6: that's okay, all right, all right? 1802 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 1: That is Have you been preparing for this? Have you been? 1803 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,719 Speaker 1: Have you been trying vegemite like sandwiches and stuff? 1804 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 6: No, but I've been experimenting, like how much of a 1805 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 6: food taste can I kill by holding my nose? 1806 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 1807 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 6: This stuff is disgusting, and you know what the here 1808 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 6: news is? Yeah, does anybody ben with sore? You want 1809 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 6: to take this vegement home? You're good? 1810 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 9: No? 1811 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,679 Speaker 6: I mean this stuff is violent. 1812 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I am spreading this around. 1813 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 6: It's bad, dude, and and and and the Aussies do 1814 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 6: this by choice. God love you. I mean, greatest MMA 1815 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 6: fans in the world. But I just don't understand. 1816 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 1: I guess the appeal is that it's like salt. It's 1817 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: like a salty piece of toast. 1818 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 6: Here's your here's the vegement. You see ken flow was uh, well, 1819 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 6: oh my god, close this it is awful. Where's the 1820 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,400 Speaker 6: where's the cap? 1821 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: What did you do with it? 1822 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 6: I dropped the cap? Apologies to everybody working today. All right, 1823 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,719 Speaker 6: here goes. We're gonna We're gonna eat a vegemite sandwich. 1824 01:19:55,479 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 1: How is it? Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh 1825 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 1: my god, it's that bad. 1826 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 6: Oh my god, Oh my god. 1827 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: It takes of water. M What does it tastes like? 1828 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: Is there anything tastes They're bringing over a trash can 1829 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: for him in casey vomits. Oh my god, what would 1830 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: you choke this? 1831 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 8: First? 1832 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 6: By down? Then I'll tell you. 1833 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 1: Ah my goodness, he's chewing. He's chewing. It's taking him 1834 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 1: forever to chew it. Are you tapping out? 1835 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 6: I know this doesn't make for great audio. Thanks to 1836 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,599 Speaker 6: my man Jeff Williams for bringing me a goddamn trash 1837 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 6: can in case I have to puke. It tastes like 1838 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 6: a combination of like soy sauce and gasoline, like into 1839 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 6: a paste. Right, It tastes like a soy a bad, 1840 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 6: bad soy sauce paste. So I guess if there it 1841 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 6: was toasted and there was some butter, and you're just 1842 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,200 Speaker 6: using a little bit of this poison, it might taste okay, 1843 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,719 Speaker 6: you know what, I'm taking the fucking crust. 1844 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:04,719 Speaker 1: You could take the crust. 1845 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 6: That's oh my god, this ship's revolting. Why do I 1846 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 6: agree to this? 1847 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 1: Or maybe the crust would mask the taste. Oh my god. Ah, 1848 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 1: he's about to go guys, he's about to throw up. 1849 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,799 Speaker 1: He just might vegemite sandwich. This episode of Anakin Florian 1850 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:28,640 Speaker 1: Podcast is brought to you by Vegamite. Thank you, Thank you. 1851 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 1: Mike not a fan. Why would the Australians do that? 1852 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: Who invented that? Why who came up with this idea? 1853 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 6: We love you, Kyle. 1854 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Let's get beer. Let's get beer yeast and spread it 1855 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 1: on toast. That sounds delicious. That is a tremendous idea, 1856 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: and they still do this. It's a thing. 1857 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 6: You know. Some of our production crew, Ben was sore. 1858 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 6: Was just in like Croatian Russia, eating all sorts of 1859 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 6: crazy foods and stuff. But I don't think Ben would 1860 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,599 Speaker 6: come up and take a bite. I almost lost it 1861 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 6: on that last week. I think I have two bites 1862 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 6: left saying no, Ben, No. 1863 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 9: A right. 1864 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 6: Problem is if I try to put this all in 1865 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 6: my mouth right now, I will throw up and I'm 1866 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 6: I might actually throw up here. 1867 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 1: But here's the thing is now, guys, he's getting down 1868 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 1: to the middle. This is where all of the vegemite is. 1869 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 1: It's at the center of this piece of bread. So 1870 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 1: this John is holding his nose right now, he's trying 1871 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 1: not to lose his cookies. Uh so is that salty 1872 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 1: or what? Kid? Oh god, this is what happens when 1873 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,599 Speaker 1: you you get an all star group of guest pickers 1874 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 1: and you try to beat the flow. You lose. You 1875 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 1: lose Johnny vegamite first, the two O nine tattoo, now 1876 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 1: the vegemite sandwich. A gosh, I just but now I'm 1877 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,080 Speaker 1: just Now I'm just playing with fire because when I 1878 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,480 Speaker 1: lose in twenty eighteen, I'm in trouble. 1879 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 6: Two on nine tattoo so much greater. So I got 1880 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 6: a you know, pretty good stomach for this. You know, 1881 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,559 Speaker 6: I I did. I did join a fraternity in college, 1882 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 6: so I have been hazed with food in my lifetime. 1883 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 6: This stuff is fucking disgusting. Like I don't know what 1884 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 6: else to tell you. You know, I just don't understand, and 1885 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 6: I will never get to a point in my life 1886 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 6: after paying off this bet where I would actually eat 1887 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,320 Speaker 6: this willingly, even on a piece of buttered briosh or whatever. 1888 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,559 Speaker 6: You know. I we love the Aussies, but respectfully, I 1889 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 6: don't understand. 1890 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 1: The speaking of which that area anyway, would you do 1891 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 1: a shoey or would you eat like, would you do 1892 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: a shoe eat to eat to e vasa style or 1893 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 1: would you eat that? 1894 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 6: That's a good question. I'm not like a germophobe on 1895 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,639 Speaker 6: your level, but shoeies just sound awful. 1896 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 1: He's choking it down, guys. He he ate. Listen, you 1897 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,599 Speaker 1: gotta get up to Annik because he did the two 1898 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,800 Speaker 1: O nine tattoo. He's eating the vegemite sandwich. He's a 1899 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 1: better man than me. I tell you right now, this guy. 1900 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: Some people don't think that's real, by the way, which 1901 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: is crazy. Someone's like, did he really tattooed too? 1902 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 8: Oh? 1903 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah he did, and he's and he really just ate 1904 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 1: that vegemite sandwich. That's impressive. 1905 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 6: So and Florine Podcasts at gmail dot com. If you 1906 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 6: have suggestions as to what the punishment for the twenty 1907 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 6: eighteen main event challenge should be, Ken flows eight points down. 1908 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 1: He's gotta be equivalent to something like that. Guys, don't 1909 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 1: get crazy. 1910 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 6: We'll see you know. What we're leaning towards doing right now. 1911 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 6: And I don't know how Fox Sports feels about this 1912 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,080 Speaker 6: is having Kenny have to do a power hour. Kenny 1913 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 6: doesn't drink a lot. Okay, so a Power Hour. If 1914 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,519 Speaker 6: you don't know, it's a shot of beer every minute 1915 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 6: for sixty minutes. And if it sounds easy, you have 1916 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 6: no idea. It's over seven beers in an hour, and 1917 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,120 Speaker 6: the first twenty shots are amazing. In the last forty 1918 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 6: or no fun at all. And I would probably do 1919 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 6: the Power Hour with him. But the beauty for me 1920 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,679 Speaker 6: would be if I didn't win, I wouldn't have to finish. 1921 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 6: I could just bow out at minute thirty seven. Tricky 1922 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 6: thing is that ken Fow hasn't had seven beers all 1923 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 6: told in twenty eighteen probably or thereabout got to make 1924 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 6: you drink seven, and that I don't know how realistic 1925 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 6: that is. 1926 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,680 Speaker 1: So I would do it. I would do it. 1927 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:17,720 Speaker 6: We'll figure something out. 1928 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 1: You just did that. I would do that. 1929 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 6: But that's going to do it for today. Thanks to 1930 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 6: everybody here Fox Sports for helping set up the extended 1931 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 6: studio here today, and thanks to everyone Ben with Sorik, 1932 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 6: Danny is back. Glad to have you, Jeff Williams, John Hill, 1933 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,960 Speaker 6: and everybody behind the curtains. Thanks to our PR man 1934 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 6: John Stuff for coming out today to watch the show live. 1935 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,000 Speaker 6: Thank you to our guest Ray Longo, Bruce Buffer, Marcus 1936 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 6: Koval and of course Mma lock of the Night Man 1937 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 6: Prea Jahas on the Picks as well. Uh, good to 1938 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,840 Speaker 6: see in studio, kid, Yeah, kid, they're gonna go to 1939 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 6: meet his daughter. Yeah, figured i'd invite myself publicly on 1940 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 6: the air. Then he couldn't say no. 1941 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:48,799 Speaker 1: Throwing up in the car by the way. 1942 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 6: I know, I'm wondering how that's gonna settle later today. 1943 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 6: That shit is disgusting, you know, really for Ken Flum, 1944 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 6: John and thank you all for listening. 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