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Speaker 1: NFL training camps are underway, which means it's time to

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Speaker 1: today's show. It's our fantasy football primer with SI experts

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Piacenti and Michael fabiana. I'm your host, John Gonzalez

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Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated and I Heart Radio. This is Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated Weekly. Jennifer Piacenti and Michael Fabriano. Welcome to Sports

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Speaker 1: This is wonderful and very excited to have both of

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Speaker 1: you to talk about fantasy football. Training camps are upon us,

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Speaker 1: which means fantasy football research begins in earnest. I have

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Speaker 1: you two are here. You guys put together an incredible

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Speaker 1: about the Fantasy Football Draft Kit is that it's a

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Speaker 1: Every single day. There's gonna be updates and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be keeping you on top of all the news. And

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Speaker 1: Michael Fabiana's rankings might change. Um, he may hear something

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Speaker 1: in camp that changes how he feels about a quarterback

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Speaker 1: running back, and you're gonna get sleepers bust and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they will change, they will change. That's why we have

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Speaker 1: you guys on early. I like how Jen called it

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Speaker 1: a living draft kit, like it's got a pulse in

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Speaker 1: a heartbeat. This thing is alive. It's a frankn science

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Speaker 1: monster that you guys have assembled, but much more useful.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the rankings, Jen fabs for both of you. Actually,

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Speaker 1: who's number one on the big board? Who are you

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Speaker 1: taking first? John? And the Taylor is the consensus number

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Speaker 1: one guy. Let's hope he works out better than Christ

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Speaker 1: gonna come somewhat. I wouldn't expect him to have that

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Speaker 1: think that Cooper Cup is really gonna catch two thousand

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Speaker 1: unlike someone like Kuon Barkley right, who's had a similar

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Speaker 1: for players who are on new teams, who you guys think, well,

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Speaker 1: Who else do you like? New new faces and new places.

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