1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Questloft Supreme. 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: I'm sorry your ward wa West Love Supreme. 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 3: Just indeed your hosts Questo with us. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Who've got a font Tigelo not the Blue Room. I 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: kind of like this daytime version of Quest Loft Supreme. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a little over hair. 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: Out of the way. What time is it out there? Layah? 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: Nine? 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, tied doing Quest Left Supreme and nine in the morning. 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: Sorry about that, you're okay? Yeah, it's nude. You're waking 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: and bacon. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm so far just waking. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: But keep watching. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. And of course Bill 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: Sermon's probably gonna seest me Street right now. So well, 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, I. 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: Mean, oh wait, no, right, yeah, everything yeah, actor or. 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: The Muppet sag actors like are they are they? 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 5: It's like the. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: Olden pick of signs. I see, I see yeah, yo, 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. Of course, it would be remiss if, 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: in this year of our lower twenty twenty three, if 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: we didn't start celebrating hip hop's fiftieth anniversary, at least 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: with some some key interviews with legendary figures that have 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: pushed the culture forward. So basically, I'll say that for 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: the last twenty five years, we've watched this young man 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: grow and evolve and expand definitely one of the most 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: respected and consistent MC's in the game right about now. 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Of course, he co found it a love group in 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: the culture of hip hop, of course, that's the Locks. 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: He is an amazing solo career and has been pretty 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: much part of a handful of songs that we all 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: know by heart, including one I forgot about, the Rising 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: Down record that You're You're You're on Rising Down with Us. 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: And I'll say that more importantly, uh, he has pivoted 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: to not only cultivating his music career, but also entering 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: the health space, which you know, was also influential to me. Like, 39 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: it's good that both Fonte and and our guests today 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: are on here, and I kind of credit both men 41 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: and their and their small subtle ways with planting seeds 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: about me personally thinking about my time on on this plane, 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: on this earthly plane, and how how I could make 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: it and actually be exemplary my damn self taking my 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: life series with my health. You know, our guest today 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: is opened up juice bars across New York City, including 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: his hometown of Yonkers, which actually just found out is 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: not far from where my farm is right now. 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: He's bringing chance to the community. Uh, he and his 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: family is basically, I'm showing people the pathway to you know, 52 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: better health, food, body of mind. And you know he's 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: he's an author, he's pitting novels, twenty albums to his name, 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Grammy nominations, and one of the best voices in hip hop. 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Styles Pete across Love Supreme. 56 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: It's good man, how you doing. 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: What's up? Family? 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: Are feeling feeling good? 59 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Brother? 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: Good to see you, good to see awesome, awesome. 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: Right about now? Where are you? What part of the 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: world are you in? I'm assuming that you're in New 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: York City? 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in. I'm in New York outside of the gym. 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I love it. 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 6: I love it outside the gym, sitting in the Oh 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 6: my god. 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: How long were you in the gym? Styles? 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: I was in the gym about an hour? 70 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I left the gym. 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: My damn self was today legs? Cardio? 72 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: What we oh? Today? 73 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 7: I just did cardio to be honest, this is a 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 7: It looks like a windbreaker, but this is actually like 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 7: a sauna suit. 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: So that's what it looks. 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: Work. Yeah, definitely, the. 78 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 7: Yeah they could not not just for a lot of 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 7: people do it. They think you put on a sauna suit. 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 7: One is great to sweat and lose weight, but it's 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 7: also great to get rid of toxins. It's a great 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 7: way to get rid of toxins that kind of speed 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 7: up your sweating. 84 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: Sweat a lot. 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 7: I'm big on sweating, stretching, sleeping, All the s's are 86 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 7: very important in your life. 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: Sleep and sweat as much as possible. 88 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: What's your what's your cardio choice? You you walk, run 89 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: stair master? Like what you what you do? 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: I like? I like the air bike a lot, like 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: the roll machine. 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: I hate the root machine. 93 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: Man, I love the roll machine. 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: I hate my training uses that as punishment. 95 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: Yo. 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 7: It's a good machine because you get to work everything today. 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: I got on. 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: I hurt my knee a little bit last week. I 99 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 7: don't even know what happened. My knee just turned to 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 7: my enemy out of nowhere. But it feeling a lot better. 101 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 7: It called forties now, Yeah, my whole master went into 102 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 7: my knee and it ain't been the same since. So 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 7: today I got on the song. I see the elder 104 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 7: people get on all the time, and I thought it 105 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 7: was I thought it was a joke because all you 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 7: do is ship there and go like this lift It 107 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 7: almost killed me. 108 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: Not the elliptical. You just shut down and do your 109 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: hands like this. 110 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh the bike, the bike joined when your hands, Yeah, 111 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: with your hands. 112 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: I thought it was sweet that that. That machine is 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: no joke. 114 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: You're right, I had tested that. Now my enemy is 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: a machine called do you know about Jacob's ladder? 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 117 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the that's the the versa climate is the 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 7: worst machine in the That's why it's always empty. 119 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 5: Is that the steps? 120 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 4: The steps? 121 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 5: Did you just walk up the steps? 122 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: Mus walk up endless ladder. 123 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 7: It's like the actual easiest way to say your mountain 124 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 7: climbing without mountain climbing without a mountain to make whatever 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 7: part of your body is not in shape, that machine 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 7: will let you know what part of the body that is. 127 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: So before you worked out, what did you do, like, 128 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 5: what did you put in your body before you worked out? 129 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: Today? 130 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 7: I didn't do anything but a juice. I had kill 131 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 7: Cilancho cucumber lime juice. 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: We did this previously with Dave Matthews or I kind 133 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: of just threw the script out and just kept the 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: conversation going only because I'm so curious about this. I'm 135 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna story sort of a student and kind 136 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: of cast aside the quest of supreme one on one 137 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: questions because really I'm being selfish and just doing it 138 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: for my own benefit. But I've really, you know, I've 139 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: been following your storyline in terms of you pivoting your 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: life and taking your your your health seriously. And of 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: course you know you already know Fonte already knows, like 142 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: I mean, everyone everyone on on this on this current 143 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: conversation knows that we're kind of in an arena where 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: it's very likely that in a in a flash, you 145 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: could you could instantly leave this earthly plane in a 146 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: matter of seconds. This morning was one of those mornings. 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: You know, one of my best friends in the world 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: made his made his exodus to the next life. And 149 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: it's almost the point where it shouldn't be numbing when 150 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: you hear about this, especially when you hear about you 151 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: know it's more health related, but just the fact that 152 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: you know we're barely getting the pleasure of celebrating our 153 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: fiftieth birthday, let alone an older age. And so for me, 154 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: I would like to know what was this draw that 155 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: broke the camel's back for you in terms of like, 156 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: you gotta make you gotta make a change, and you 157 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: gotta not only focus on your own personal health, but 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: amplify that message for us that are out here listening 159 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: to you. 160 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: I believe in being in hip hop and. 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 7: Moving to a more affluent neighborhood was really my wake 162 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 7: up call to be honest to you years ago, you know, 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 7: through hip hop. Fortunate enough, I was able to move 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 7: from where I originally lived. 165 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 4: I think I want to say I moved. 166 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 7: I'm forty eight now, around the time when I was 167 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 7: twenty one twenty two is when I first moved to 168 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 7: a better neighborhood and just really noticing the differences in 169 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 7: the stores and the differences and what's being sold when 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 7: you live in a more affluent neighborhood. And hip hop 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 7: is a very braggadocious verbal sport, but it's unrealistic when 172 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 7: you think of poor people like everybody you know, naturally 173 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 7: were supposed to brag shit, we better mcs and talk 174 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 7: about your lifestyle. 175 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: But when I started. 176 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 7: Thinking about it, how much how many people were aspiring 177 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 7: and to get things that most likely they wouldn't be 178 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 7: able to get or wouldn't be able to afford, and 179 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 7: that their life is focused on that due to hip hop. 180 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 7: It kind of made me change my outlook on the 181 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 7: message I wanted to deliver. So it was like, Bro, 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 7: you want to Bentley, but you can't afford the civic. 183 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 7: And to be able to afford the civic, you have 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 7: to have a certain work lifestyle work ethic, and the 185 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 7: best way to do. 186 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 4: That is to take care of yourself. 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 7: And between that and then looking at the difference that 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 7: a healthy lifestyle made for me personally, the things that 189 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 7: it was able to change. 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: About me early styles, I would. 191 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 7: Say my temple was extremely bad to the point where 192 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 7: I was smart, but I would do stupid things. 193 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: I let my ego and my pride kind of run 194 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 4: my life and. 195 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 7: What I was doing, so you know, I was not 196 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 7: going to have security type of guy. If I have 197 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 7: a problem, I'm handling on my own. And then that 198 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 7: later on led me to being more cowboyish, and then 199 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 7: I had to sit back and think like what's wrong 200 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 7: with me? Like I'm too smart to be this way? 201 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 7: But why am I am I this way? So I 202 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 7: came up with my own hypotheses that I had some 203 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 7: sort of chemical imbalance and that was coming from what 204 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 7: I was putting in my body. I was at the time, 205 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 7: I was around two forty. I had posting nazl drips, cyanaidis, 206 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 7: ezema and a horrible temper, And just from juicing up 207 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 7: and eating better, I noticed the change of myself. I 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 7: noticed the change of my spirit. So it was like, 209 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: you know, I started looking at things out of the 210 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 7: box and from how I normally would look at things. 211 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 7: And then I kind of knew that was all due 212 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 7: to me just changing my lifestyle and caring about myself more. 213 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: I think a lot of us. 214 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 7: We say we care about ourselves, we say we love ourselves, 215 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 7: but we're programmed and condition to do things that people 216 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 7: before us did, whether it's our parents, our grandparents, our 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 7: great grandparents, our neighbors. You know, we kind of put 218 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 7: ourselves in a box of not treating ourselves right because 219 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 7: people we love and that came up before us and 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 7: around us don't treat themselves right. So we get condition 221 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 7: to thinking, we don't owe ourselves the best, Like I 222 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 7: like material things, like you know what I mean, But 223 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 7: I don't love them more than I love my people. 224 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: I don't love them more than I love myself. 225 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 7: And some of us we don't even love ourselves enough 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 7: because we don't really know to. Like we run around, 227 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 7: we chase the dollar, we chase the dream. We're trying 228 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 7: to be here for our family. We're trying to have 229 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 7: our families live a better life. But that really all 230 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 7: starts with your personal health. 231 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: And like you say, one you think about it and hip. 232 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 7: We're the most influential genre that's across the world, but 233 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 7: we also the genre that suffers, you know, being that way, 234 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 7: mostly black, brown, people of color, whatever you want to 235 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 7: call it. We don't pay attention to diabetes. We don't 236 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 7: pay attention to high blood pressure. We don't pay attention 237 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 7: to cancer. We don't pay attention to the things we're eating. 238 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 7: We don't look up the ingredients of the things we're eating. 239 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: But you could go buy. 240 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 7: The best outfit, you could buy the best watch by 241 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 7: the best car. 242 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: You don't remember with styles. It wasn't until what the 243 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: nineties was when brothers were still saying I ain't gonna 244 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 5: live till twenty five anyway, Right. 245 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: That was that was a lot Like I'm forty eight. 246 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 7: I know there was a time in my life I 247 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 7: didn't even think about making it to fifty. The future 248 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 7: that wasn't even in my You know that that was 249 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 7: like a bonus and a plus. And then we lose 250 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 7: so many people, but we don't look at why, like 251 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 7: and technology is so fast and speeding nowadays that we're 252 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: not all taking care of ourselves properly. 253 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: So I think it's important to do that. 254 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 7: The scope of how we look at things and how 255 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 7: we head for ourselves and our family. 256 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: Real talk, man, like what year did you open your 257 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: juice bar? 258 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 4: Thirteen years ago? 259 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 7: Almost fourteen years ago would be the be the first one. 260 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably say, you know a lot of times 261 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: like you know, like people who are pioneers and they 262 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: never get the credit, Like you'll never hear anyone say like, 263 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: oh llll cool J's in my top five, although we'll 264 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: acknowledge him as God, will acknowledge him as the goat 265 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: or whatever. But you know, we'll always do like our like, 266 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: oh well there's Big Daddy Caine cools you Brad da 267 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Da Da, But no one ever says like LL's so 268 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: good and so pioneering. It's almost like Thriller will never 269 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: be in anyone's top five list, as like albums that change, 270 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it just goes without 271 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: saying that if I really think about it. So there 272 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: was a point in my life around to two thousand 273 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: and nine twenty ten in which I think we were 274 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: doing like the first we did, like the second Roots 275 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: Picnic in Philly, And that's probably the one concentrated week 276 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: in which I will return back to Philadelphia like my home. 277 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm here in New York because of the Tonight 278 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: Show and all that stuff. So I live in New 279 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: York now, but when it's Roots Picnic time, between all 280 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: the rehearsals and all that stuff, I'm going back to Philadelphia. 281 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know, like I do this weird thing. 282 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: And when I was younger, I used to always like 283 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: kind of ridicule, Like you'll hear about like old ball 284 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: players going back to their projects or whatever, and You'll 285 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: be like, Yo, what the hell are they doing? Like 286 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: why would you put yourself in that dangerous Like I'd 287 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: be super judgment on that, but i'd also know that 288 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: I do that too a lot, Like I will three 289 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: in the morning drive by my Grandmam's house, like between 290 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: like eleven PM to four in the morning, what I 291 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: called chasing ghosts, like and I want to know, like 292 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: why do I have an addiction to like visiting the 293 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: worst parts of my childhood just to like, is this 294 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: how I deal with the balance of connecting of like 295 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: maybe feelings of guilt that I have of like where 296 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: I am now like the same thing living in an 297 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: affluent neighborhood, or like is this me balancing out? But 298 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: the whole point was that the Second Roots picnic another 299 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: way that I go back to whatever nostalgia is also 300 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: a very toxic way, which is food. Now, Philadelphia is 301 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: a food town, so of course that's right. I will 302 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: make plants like, Okay, on Tuesday, I'm gonna go to 303 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: this whole spot Da Da, and then Wednesday and Thursday 304 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to my favorite cheese steak spots and 305 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: Da da da. So I remember the night before, the 306 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: night before the second picnic, I kind of overdid it 307 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: on the cheese steaks, and I felt horrible and I realized, 308 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: like yo, man, I went to neighborhood and realized that 309 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: everything that I've consumed all my life, which explains you know, 310 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: at some points I was like four hundred and thirty pounds. 311 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Currently right now I'm like two ninety. But back in 312 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: my four hundred pounds days, I've realized like yo, like 313 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: every every fattening food that there ever was, it's almost 314 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: like by design every like why are the cheapest foods. 315 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 5: The most harmful foods the rightest accessible? 316 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: Right? So then skip to me seeing a clip of 317 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: you talking about this. It was like the ribbon cutting 318 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: of your your juice spot. And when you said what 319 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: you said, I was like, I was like, that's it. 320 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: Not only am I going to turn my personal life 321 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: around and not to mention like Fonte had already like 322 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: released a song about how you know, we're getting older 323 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: now we need to you know, he called it expensive jeans, 324 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: punt on jeans, and that that also planted seed to me. 325 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: But when I saw what you did, I was like, 326 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: that's exactly like I'm gonna have to be the paradigm shift. 327 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: So cut to now, like my entire investment portfolio is 328 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: investing in plant based healthier figuring out how to turn 329 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: into conversation around without people like rolling their eyes like 330 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: all right, here he comes again, like preaching or whatever 331 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: for you though you influenced me and I'm not in 332 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: your inner circle. Is your inner circle taking note of this? 333 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: And are you being influential on them or they're now 334 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: looking at you like here he goes again, like telling 335 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: me to put the liquor down, and I come to 336 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: the gym with him, I get, I get a bit 337 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: of both. 338 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 7: For the most part, I could say most of my 339 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 7: inner circle has changed. 340 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: I am. I guess I'm annoying with it, but. 341 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 7: I look at it like this, it's a war, like 342 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 343 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: It's it's it's. 344 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 7: Literally a war on people our color that we don't 345 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 7: know we're in. So I and I also want to 346 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 7: look at it like I'm the leader. 347 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: Of the pack. 348 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 7: There's been Dick Gregory before me. There's been plenty of 349 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 7: people who done it. I'm just probably the most loudest, 350 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 7: voicterous person in hip hop. Even in hip hop, there's 351 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 7: plenty of plant based people. There's plenty of vegans. As 352 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 7: you said, like I'm haunted by going back to where 353 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 7: I'm from because no pun intended. You do that because 354 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 7: you connected to your roots, and when you're connected to 355 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 7: your roots, it's hard to forget where you're from. And 356 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 7: when you when you escalate, you always want to somewhat 357 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 7: stay in tune. I think that's the musical part of us, 358 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 7: is staying in tune with the foundation. But when you 359 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 7: start understanding that it's a war, I don't really care 360 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 7: how you look at me. I don't care how annoyed 361 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 7: you get. I do my job as a messenger. I 362 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 7: am a messenger, and I don't look at it any 363 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 7: further than that. And if whether you take the messenger, 364 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 7: you don't take the message, that's not on me. It's 365 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 7: on me to make sure I just keep throwing out 366 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 7: the message so to be able to go from one 367 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 7: juice bar and see the you know, when I first 368 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 7: started doing this, some. 369 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: Styles peed from the locks hardest them. 370 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 7: See, you know, the guy who's done plenty of more 371 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 7: than enough stupid shit in my lifetime, of a guy 372 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 7: with a history of violence. So when you understand that, 373 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 7: and you understand where that comes from, you don't really 374 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 7: have time to worry about how people are taking it. 375 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 7: When we're losing so many great people in our culture, 376 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 7: when we're losing so many great people in our families 377 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 7: in the streets. I don't really worry about if how 378 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 7: I rub you, as long as I got the message out, 379 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 7: as long as I did my job, I was able 380 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 7: to not only see my inner circle change, but my 381 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 7: neighborhood change. Through that, we have been able to connect 382 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 7: with the mayor, build up parks. 383 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: I'm doing something with the y m c A nowhere. 384 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 7: We're gonna have soup kitchens and we're gonna give our 385 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 7: plant based food. 386 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: We're just gonna keep pushing it forward. We're not gonna 387 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 4: worry about uh. 388 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 7: I'm the now Vegandale has a bunch of other rappers 389 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 7: coming to it. I don't think you really got the 390 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 7: time when when we're doing what we're doing, When you're 391 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 7: pushing forward, you don't have the time to worry about 392 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 7: if you're rubbing people the wrong way, or if they're 393 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 7: tired of hearing you. The messager hit them one day, 394 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 7: maybe sometimes when it's too late, maybe sometimes early enough, 395 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 7: maybe sometimes just on time. 396 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: But as a messenger that that's our job. 397 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 7: And fortunately I have been able to see enough enough 398 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: people change before for me. Like you guys know this fine, fine, 399 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 7: and YouTube, But when somebody comes up to you and go, yo, 400 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 7: your music has changed my life. Yo, this song means 401 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 7: so much to me, Yo, that performance means so much 402 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 7: to me. That's a that's out of this world feeling. 403 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 7: It really humbles you in a. 404 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: Way that it's hard to put it in words. 405 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 7: So for me, although God is Family has always been 406 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 7: God family and hip hop, the shift has been able 407 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 7: to change the God is family, health then hip hop, 408 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 7: because with our health we have nothing. And until you 409 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 7: really realize that, like, there's so much of us who 410 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 7: suffer from so many things and it's just not. 411 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: Cool to talk about. So I don't get rid, I 412 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: don't I don't care about if it's not cool. Now 413 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: we're in the making it cool. 414 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 7: Now, we're able to change now to say we went 415 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 7: from one juice bar to five juice bars to almost 416 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 7: six juice bars to now pharmacy for life online to 417 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 7: a pharmacy for life brick and mortars. So what I 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 7: do is understand is people are what they don't say 419 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 7: is cool in front of everybody, they'll still come up 420 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 7: to you on the side and. 421 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: Go, yo, bro, how'd you lose that weight? Yo? Yo? 422 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 5: Yo? 423 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: Your skin looking like that. 424 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 7: Oh yo gro oh man, I see you can do 425 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 7: pull up to stretch this amount of much and how 426 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 7: do you do it? So it's about the impact and 427 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 7: change and people, whether you do it intentionally or not, 428 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 7: when people see you change. Leading by example is the 429 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 7: best thing you could do. Because even like we tell 430 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 7: people in the juice bar, we give out the menu, 431 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 7: like literally I have five juice bars, but how many 432 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: people could physically make it to that juice bar? And 433 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 7: they're all in New York. So what I do is 434 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 7: tell people, get a juice and get a blender. If 435 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 7: you come back. If you come in our juice bar 436 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 7: and you never come back, that's fine with me. But 437 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 7: take a picture of it and bring it home to 438 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 7: your loved one. At least do that and practice by 439 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 7: example because you bringing your kid into the juice bar. 440 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 7: It's beneficial for me, but your kids seeing you wake 441 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 7: up in the morning, whatever it is, your partner, whatever 442 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 7: you have, when they see you put the things in 443 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 7: the blend of yourself. 444 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: And that you said that leads by example. 445 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 7: Like our kids listen to us, but they watch what 446 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 7: we do more than they listen to us. 447 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 5: But also isn't being an evolved man right now, like 448 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: that is actually trending. I was just talking too Freeway 449 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: about this, and I was like the fact that we 450 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 5: have more MC's showing their full cells instead of just 451 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 5: all of the best parts. I mean, Freeway be an example, 452 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 5: and I was asking, I said, it seems like it's 453 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: a nice group of y'all who actually communicate with each 454 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: other and lift each other up that way, Isn't that 455 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 5: It seems like that's the case in that. 456 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: Way, right Yeah, I don't think it's the trend. I 457 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: think it's the shifting lifestyle. 458 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: Thank god the kids would call it the trend. 459 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: Yes, a trend will come and go. 460 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 7: I think a shift and your lifestyle is being connected 461 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 7: to somebody who genuinely. 462 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: Cares about you. I don't. 463 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 7: I'm not interested in having I think old hip hop is. 464 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 7: I have to have more watches in a better watch 465 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 7: than you. My car is more expensive than you. I 466 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 7: could buy more bottles than you. I have more fine 467 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 7: women around me than you do. Like my thing is, 468 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 7: I'm a married man, I'm a family man, and I 469 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 7: care about you for who you are. 470 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: I want to be the best me that I could be. 471 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: So fortunately it. 472 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 7: Can help myself first and foremost, then the loved ones 473 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 7: around me, then my friends, my immediate. 474 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: Inner circle, than my community. 475 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 7: And if you move with life with doing that, I 476 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 7: think that's the change that's needed. That's the change that's needed, because, 477 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 7: like Ques said, I don't know if I'm gonna be here, 478 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 7: Like you know, I think people kind of look at 479 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 7: life and I've lost enough people in my life, family members, 480 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 7: close friends, people in the community where I know I'm 481 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 7: not promised five minutes later. So I want to do 482 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 7: what I could do to make the difference, to say, 483 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 7: when I go, you're not going to think about the 484 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 7: things you did. You have to think about the things 485 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 7: you didn't do, and right, I don't want that to 486 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 7: be on my conscious the way I didn't push. I 487 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 7: didn't push the envelope as for it as much as possible. 488 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: No, I really want to, you know, thank you for that. 489 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Normally we save this part for the end about where 490 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: your life has changed. But for me, man, it was 491 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: it was really important to hear that, and I want 492 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: people to hear that that sort of shift is important. 493 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: Can I ask, though, especially in light of how we're 494 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: dealing with mental health in the pandemic. Was therapy at 495 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: all a part of your shift as well? 496 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: Definitely my wife, my wife, Thank God for my wife. 497 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: Thank God she made shaw I. 498 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 7: Implemented that within my routine. Uh even when I didn't. 499 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: I forget. I've been on so a few of them shows. 500 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: Now I forget it. 501 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 502 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 7: Black love is good for the for the mind and 503 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 7: so but even doctor is doctor ish was a great 504 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 7: adding for my life because he helped me figure out 505 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 7: a lot of things. 506 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: And now. 507 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 7: What's crazy is I need to go to therapy more. 508 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 7: But I pretty much use my wife as a therapist, 509 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 7: which probably. 510 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 5: I'm like, well, then who does she use as a therapist? 511 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: Because that that means. 512 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 4: But I think learning how to talk out. I think 513 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: a lot of us have a. 514 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 7: Problem with understanding that it's okay to not to understand 515 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 7: that your mind needs a break, Like even if you 516 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 7: think about today's just life in general today, like I 517 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 7: was telling somebody this the other day, besides having trauma, 518 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 7: for me, just logging on the Instagram some days makes 519 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 7: me need mental makes me know some kind of therapy 520 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 7: because if you think about it, like I was sitting, 521 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 7: there's no way that you would have a conversation with 522 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 7: this many people. 523 00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: Real life. 524 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 7: I'm not hearing even over one hundred and fifty people's 525 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 7: thoughts today and how they feel a negative energy, their attitude. 526 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 7: But when you log on, you're taking in so much 527 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 7: in the world so fast, and it's just so hard. 528 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: To even get a grasp of what's going on. 529 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: So in the back end of da of how you 530 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 5: don't even know how you if you've met people in 531 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 5: real life or just seeing them on the Instagram, I 532 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 5: don't know. 533 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: What's going on. 534 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 7: So to take in them people's thoughts, feelings, energy, what's 535 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 7: on their mind. We all need some sort of therapy. 536 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 7: We all need some sort of a laxation. Your mind 537 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 7: needs a lot, like we all it's black people, we 538 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 7: have PTSD period just being black. So on top of that, 539 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 7: I think about how fast things are moving, how fast 540 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: technology is advancing, and human beings aren't advancing as fast 541 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: as technology is, and all of these things, like even me, 542 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 7: for the like the normal things that probably won't make. 543 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: The average person need therapy, makes me need therapy. 544 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 7: Like I'm thinking about how AI is coming, I'm thinking 545 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 7: about like a log I went to see. I went 546 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 7: to see this movie The other day Sound of Freedom 547 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 7: right after I left Sound of Freedom, and I'm thinking, damn, 548 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: all of this is happening to the kids, and you know, 549 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 7: people are losing their jobs the AI. Then you get 550 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 7: on Instagram and you got to hear everybody's personal thought, 551 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 7: not on anything that's almost relevant, and it made me go, 552 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: I need I need a break from the world some days, 553 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 7: like I don't care about how she's dressed, he's dressed, 554 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 7: who said what? 555 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: Rapper did this? Who doing what? 556 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 7: I just want to live in a healthier world and 557 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 7: contribute to that. But it doesn't kind of always pan 558 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 7: out that way, So that alone could kind of break 559 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 7: you down mentally, Like if you're not surrounding yourself around 560 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 7: people who think like you, who move how you move, 561 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 7: you're gonna need some kind of kind of therapy. And 562 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 7: like I've lost the daughter to suicide, me and myself. 563 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 7: I suffered from rage before without without knowing what was happening. 564 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 7: Like you hear people suffering from depression feeling this way, 565 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 7: but nobody speaks of the kid who suffers from rage. 566 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 7: So knowing all of the things that we deal with 567 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 7: in our community, like, uh, we need the mind, body, 568 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 7: and soul I believe all three needs to be worked 569 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 7: on constantly because you need to have them lined up 570 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 7: to have the best you in place. So it's not 571 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 7: just the body, it's not just being healthy. It's like 572 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 7: I live a healthy lifestyle more so from the health 573 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 7: aspect of you know, the physical health to spiritually and 574 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 7: mentally be be healthier to not not full victim to 575 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 7: the things that I usually were full victim to because 576 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 7: I don't feel good. Like, like, think about it, Like 577 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: how many people you can get on Instagram and go 578 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 7: I love red. 579 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna come on, go fuck red, I hate red blues, 580 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: my color, this and that. Like that's a lot to 581 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: deal with. 582 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 7: And there's people who will just come on your page 583 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 7: saying negative shit. 584 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: That's because they don't feel good about themselves. 585 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 7: Like so a person who doesn't feel good about themselves, 586 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 7: they're bound to push their negativity on you. And if 587 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 7: you're not in a mentally healthy enough space to understand that, 588 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 7: that could ruin your dam and bring. 589 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 5: You down, which most aren't. 590 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean. Now you're caring about what. 591 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 7: Strangers are saying about cyber strangers, Yeah, yeah, are saying 592 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 7: about you, Like that's a that's a that's a were 593 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 7: in a we're in a very different time, like in 594 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 7: this day and age, like. 595 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: We're in a time you can't even disagree with somebody. 596 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 7: Like you know what I mean, It's like, okay, you're 597 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 7: you know, if you're not a Democrat, the Republicans are 598 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 7: mad at you. You're not a Republican. The Democrats are 599 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 7: mad at you. If you're not either one, then everybody's 600 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 7: mad at you. 601 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: You can say, I'm. 602 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 7: Thinking people instead of having a conversation or understand why 603 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 7: you're coming from that point of view, they'd rather just 604 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 7: drag you and call you names instead of even understanding. 605 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 7: Let me have a conversation to see your point of 606 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 7: view and why you feel that way. 607 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: And I believe that's why healthy lifestyle is very. 608 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 7: Important, because it's not just about physically being healthy, it's 609 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 7: about mentally being healthy. And then spiritual health means a 610 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 7: lot too, which really about on the day to day basis, 611 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 7: but your spiritual health means a lot because you don't 612 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 7: want just people coming in and putting their energy. 613 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 5: On you or I think we found another meditator. Have 614 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: we found another meditator? 615 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: For sure? 616 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: How do you take care of your your spiritual health. 617 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: Is it prayer? Is it meditation? Like what are your tools? 618 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: Prayer? 619 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 7: Meditation is surrounding myself around people I feel or spiritually grown, 620 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 7: or that can help me spiritually grow. 621 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: I also like the ground. 622 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 7: I like to take my sneakers off my side, so off, 623 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 7: step on the dirt for a minute, in contact with 624 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 7: the earth. 625 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 4: I like the stargaze. I like hikes in the nature. 626 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 7: I yelled, I screamed, I cry, I laugh, I throw 627 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 7: bowlers guy style. 628 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: I do what I gotta do to make go feel better. 629 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: You said something, Now, this is weird. You talked about rage, right, yeah, 630 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: and man I felt I got so I got so 631 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: envious because here's the thing. It took me all right, 632 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm certain that this episode will be 633 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: on UH in the month of all around April and May. 634 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: I realized something. Usually the most stressful time in my 635 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: life is between February and June, simply because of again 636 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: the weight, the weight of throwing that festival in Philadelphia. 637 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: You know, you're going through everything, You're going through every artist, 638 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: You're trying to cater everyone's needs, and you know, so 639 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of stress there. And I realized around May, 640 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: how I've been doing this wrong the entire time. And 641 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm certain that almost ninety five percent of humanity does 642 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: the same thing that I do, which is I've only 643 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: been chasing one emotion only, and that's happiness. I've been 644 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: chasing happiness, which in the scheme of things, you think, well, 645 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: what's wrong with chasing happiness? But then I realize that 646 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: someone ever revealed to me maybe a year ago, and 647 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: I didn't listen to him good that it's like, yo, amir, 648 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: there are over forty eight other emotions besides happiness. And 649 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: they named the whole spectrum. They showed me a graphic chart. 650 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: There's some dark shit like jealousy and sadness, there's some 651 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: light shit like laughter, like happiness, and so there's a 652 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: whole spectrum of emotions, and I only knew happy, you 653 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And so what I realized was that, 654 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, I thought, whatever my my eat, whatever my 655 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: personality is to certain people like oh, myer never gets 656 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: angry and da da da da da da. I realized 657 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: that I'm absolutely not in touch with any other emotion 658 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: besides happy. And that's why, like most of us self soothed. 659 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: That's why, like I always went to bad foods. That's 660 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: why another cat will go to cocaine. That's why another 661 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: cat will drink to death or whatever. And so a 662 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: friend of mine had gave me a link about a 663 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: retreat that I should go to for people who've never 664 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: ever expressed rage ever, because I told them that, oh, 665 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 2: I never get it. And when they said that, they 666 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: said this to me, They said, you not getting angry 667 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 2: a mirror. Yeah, so when's the last time you expressed 668 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 2: your anger out loud? And I was like, I said, 669 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: probably maybe twenty years ago when I was angry that 670 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: someone put the wrong mix on my album and now 671 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: it's stuck on my record. I got angry. And they're like, 672 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: you're telling me the last time he expressed the anger 673 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: was twenty years ago because of a mastering session glitch. 674 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I don't get angry much 675 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: and they were like that you just said the equipment. Yeah, 676 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm right, Well, one you take it out on yourself. 677 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: He's like, at least you know you you expressed anger, 678 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: but you was like, you know what, I'm gonna eat 679 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: these feelings away instead of expressing right, And at that 680 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: not expressing anger is almost like you saying, you know 681 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: what I haven't. I haven't urinated in two decades. And 682 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: so I went to this retreat. It's a three day 683 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: retreat that I went to in June, and man, I realized, 684 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: with the exception of an occasional roller coaster and even then, 685 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 2: when I think of my roller coaster experiences, my level 686 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: of screaming is more like a muppet like that sort 687 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: of thing. That's not like real rage, that's just like 688 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, that sort of thing, this thing that I did. 689 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: You know, they literally teach you how to scream, like 690 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: we had to spend twenty four hours learning our baritone voice, 691 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: our alto like our chakra like from our voice, from 692 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: our throat to our stomachs. So cut to us actually 693 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: doing the rage exercise, and I didn't realize how much 694 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: anger and rage I've had, I mean for five like 695 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: just bottled up again. It's literally like not defecating for 696 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: fifty years or taken. And I didn't realize that, like, oh, 697 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: the key to life is not chasing happiness. It's in 698 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: the most healthiest way to express all emotions, definitely, And 699 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: I didn't really so when you were like yo, like 700 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: I was a rage aholic. I was thinking here, like, damn, man, 701 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: I would I mean, no, I don't want to be 702 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: toxic to other people, but I wish I would have 703 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: known what that feeling felt like like to express anger, 704 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: which i've you know, never done outwardly. So I don't know. 705 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: I just felt, but I felt you on that man. 706 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: That's that's that's amazing, man, I thank you. I guess 707 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if we didn't talk about like your 708 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: craft in your art right, like. 709 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 5: Music memories and stuff. 710 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: Not really because the craft I think. I think in 711 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: the music. 712 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 7: Business, that's what we do a lot, and we don't. 713 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 7: These kind of conversations aren't helld enough because people don't 714 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 7: feel comfortable with talking about where they're at in life, like. 715 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: Well, vulnerability. People don't want to feel varlnerable. 716 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 4: You don't want to feel vulnerable, so like. 717 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 5: We weren't always allowed to feel vulnerable y'all too. We 718 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 5: have to acknowledge that. 719 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 7: It took me for years to realize, like I I 720 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 7: was the hardest MC out of reach, out of just 721 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 7: really wanting to hurt something like I had. 722 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 4: To realize later on, I was like. 723 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 7: Wow, I knew myself the whole time subconsciously because I 724 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 7: always told people I was a gangster and a gentleman, 725 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 7: like I'm the rapper who you can hear make some 726 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 7: real gangster shit. Then I know I'm the rapper who 727 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 7: also got a song with FONTI. 728 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 4: Right now, you know what I mean. I live this 729 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: and that. So I've always walked a fine line of balancing. 730 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 7: So throughout my music career, I've been fortunate enough to 731 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 7: say that I've been able to work with with the 732 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 7: greats and be able to be myself genuinely on both sides. 733 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 7: As I got old, it really took me to as 734 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 7: I got older, like somebody I didn't think, I really 735 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 7: realized that one day I had an interview and somebody 736 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 7: was like, you may be one of the only few 737 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 7: artists who are walking that fine line who gets accepted. 738 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 7: And that made me have appreciation of of my craft 739 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 7: and saying that is a pretty dope thing you know 740 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 7: to be. But I also consciously realized I introduced myself 741 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 7: as that in the beginning. 742 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: I told people I'm literally half and half. 743 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 7: So I guess to say what I'm saying is our 744 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 7: careers sort of reflect. 745 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 4: Our life and who we are. 746 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 7: Like like you've held in that ridge quest but you've 747 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 7: always been the guy that people go, I'm gonna go 748 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 7: fuck with him. 749 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: We love these guys, we love what they do. Like 750 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: my early career, I almost ruined my fucking career out 751 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 4: of I almost ruled my own career with with not 752 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 4: being in two, with with being two in tune with 753 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 4: some of my feelings, and then nothing. 754 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 7: I think our careers are a reflection of who we are, 755 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 7: and we just have to learn other ways to be. 756 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 4: Like it took me to learn. 757 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 7: I like they got it to a point where I said, 758 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 7: I don't really want to feel like walking around with 759 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 7: two guns all the time and embracing a certain energy. 760 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 7: So I left the guns home and left the security. 761 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 7: But I brought a good energy with me, saying God's. 762 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: Gonna be my security and if it's my day to go, 763 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 4: it's my day to go. That was written. But I 764 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 4: also work somewhere in a light and even with. 765 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 7: My history of the music I made and the music 766 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 7: I'm doing and just being in a place of going, 767 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 7: the people got to accept me for who I am, and. 768 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 4: I let the chips fall where they may. 769 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 7: So I've been blessed to have a you know, a great, 770 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 7: a great music career. I would like to say I've 771 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 7: been able to be around the reads and work with 772 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 7: a lot of the greats and be on a lot 773 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 7: of songs. I feel like, when it's all said and done, 774 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 7: I've been a very hard working MC and I appreciate it. 775 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 7: But my journey now, more so than my music career, 776 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 7: is to also make sure that people in music are 777 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 7: also understanding to connect your connect your career with your 778 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 7: personal life and your health, because without your health, you're 779 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 7: not going to really enjoy your career. 780 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 5: Since we are talking about career a little bit and 781 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 5: were talking about the fiftieth, it seems like, of course 782 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 5: you've been involved in a bunch of stuff this year, 783 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 5: but has there been anything that kind of really blew 784 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 5: you away as a as a fan of the craft, 785 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 5: not just a participant in the. 786 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 4: Culture, as a fan and a participant, I would. 787 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 7: Have to say, and not not to be funny just 788 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 7: because we're here, but rocking at Grammys and being part 789 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 7: of that for you know. 790 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 2: Ah, every time someone brings it up. 791 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 3: I forget. 792 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 7: That was one of the most beautiful things that I 793 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 7: was to participate in I would say in my career, 794 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 7: before I got there, I like, this is what I'm saying. 795 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: About about life and your health. 796 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 7: Like even before I got there, I don't think I 797 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 7: got to the first rehearsal that I understood the magnitude 798 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 7: of it. 799 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 4: Then when I got to that first rehearsal, I was like, 800 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 4: and you saw and salt and pepper iced tea L L. 801 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 7: Black thought of ourselves, just the whole room, and just 802 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 7: understand that I was part of something that great and 803 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 7: to be fortunate enough to be there and to see 804 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 7: all my childhood superheroes son those coming up after me. 805 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 7: To be part of something that great was very very 806 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 7: I want to say humbling, because that's not the appropriate word. 807 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: I think it's humbling. 808 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 7: It was humbling, but it was more so of a 809 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 7: realization of how great this thing of ours, this and 810 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 7: how fortunate enough that my career has been to be 811 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 7: called to be part of it. 812 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, No, I know. 813 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 5: Because I was wondering if you understood that the moment 814 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 5: when the fans and the people watching that show saw 815 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 5: the lotsy y'all come on the stage, what that means 816 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 5: to that performance too? Like you understand that, like when 817 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 5: they see you, it's like, oh, sh yes, this is 818 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 5: for real. 819 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: Hell yeah it was. It was just it was beyond words. 820 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 7: And I got to and you know, it's crazy when 821 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 7: you and your group members and like we all were 822 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 7: saying the same shit, like this is absolutely fucking crazy. 823 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 4: I was like a kid in the candy store. 824 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 7: I was like, this right here is a moment I 825 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 7: will never forget because I think, especially in hip hop, 826 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 7: I think people get used to the other accolades, like 827 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 7: all right, I got a home, now, I got this 828 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 7: amount of cars, I sold this much for me, I'm 829 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 7: you know, I grew up in a in a time of. 830 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 4: Hip hop where for l l. 831 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 7: Iced tea to know your name, know your songs, for 832 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 7: Rockham to want to hug you is what something that 833 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 7: I could express, Like, that's better than any award that 834 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 7: I could ever get, to be acknowledged by the greats, 835 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 7: to be loved by them, to be respected by them 836 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 7: as a big O award than any award that I 837 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 7: could possibly get. It's an unreal feelings. 838 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 6: Were you to that point he speaking to your point 839 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 6: about you like kind of getting the accolades from the greats, 840 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 6: last time we saw each other in the flesh, it 841 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 6: was Kennedy Center, it was Pharaoh Manches Show. 842 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 3: We were in DC. This is pre pandemic, it's pre COVID. 843 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 6: But we saw each other and it was in the 844 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 6: hallway and I told Pooh, I'll never get it. 845 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: I was like, it was our album middle. 846 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 6: Or watch it came out. It just came out and 847 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 6: I saw you and he was like, yo, like. 848 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 3: You know we got each other. Gave me a big 849 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 3: hug and he was like, yo, man, I love this record. 850 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: It sounds like y'all missed each other, you know what 851 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 3: I mean? And I knew that from you, Like I 852 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 3: was like, he know, you know what I mean. 853 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 6: So he was like, yo, man, sound like y'all missed 854 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 6: each other. Man, Like I love this record, like you 855 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 6: could hear it. And so I just really like hearing 856 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 6: that from you like that, you know. I mean, that 857 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 6: was it. Like we didn't tell another record after that. 858 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 6: I was good, and I wanted to ask, man, how 859 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 6: do you keep a rap group together? 860 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 5: Like? 861 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you you know, she like, how do y'all? 862 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: Because it's just a very rare thing for groups like exist. 863 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 7: Brotherhood has to be more than anything like where where 864 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 7: I feel like the game has split up a lot 865 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 7: of groups with them prioritizing the game over brotherhood, like 866 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 7: we made an OH when we came in with brothers. 867 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 7: Like if I don't get on a record for you 868 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 7: to say kiss or Sheik is better than me, I 869 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 7: want you to say I'm better than them, you like 870 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 7: my first better, But when you don't, if you don't, 871 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 7: I'm still cool because it's a win for the team 872 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 7: and we accept it. But nobody gets you on the 873 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 7: basketball court looking for somebody else to be the MVP. 874 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 7: But if you understand that team and brotherhood over everything, 875 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 7: it keeps it together. Like I bond goes beyond music. 876 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 7: Our bond will always go beyond music. Our family members 877 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 7: rock with each other because with family, we understand that 878 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 7: it's family first and everything else kind of just falls after. 879 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 7: Like you can't you can't let feign materialistic things, money, women, 880 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 7: what people say, what other men say get in between 881 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 7: what you have, Like what you have has to be 882 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 7: sacred to you. 883 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 4: You have to appreciate making music is something we love. 884 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 7: It's fortunate enough that we've been able to do it 885 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 7: for you know, this thing of our starts as a hobby. 886 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 7: Then you make it a job, and if you're fortunate enough, 887 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 7: you get to make it a career. And then it's 888 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 7: really fortunate enough, people say, you know, you're doing legend 889 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 7: and every ship, and you work on being a legend. 890 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 7: So understood, Yeah, understanding that we've just always put ourselves 891 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 7: and our brotherhood before anything else, and we we've always 892 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 7: kept it that way. 893 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 2: But when do you pinpoint the time period of which 894 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 2: the three of you said, let's start a group, because 895 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: I don't know the genesis of how you guys actually met. 896 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 4: High school kissing chik knew each other. 897 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 7: Actually, since I want to say single digits, I met them, 898 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 7: I met them in junior high and then we end 899 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 7: up going to high school together. Like they lived on 900 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 7: the north side of the Ankers, I lived on the 901 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 7: south side of the Ankers. As an MC, you get 902 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 7: to hear who's the other mcs ringing around town and 903 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 7: they name will always ring. 904 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 4: And in high school we formed the group. It was 905 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 4: Bomb Squad. It was UH. 906 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 7: It was more so like they were EPMD and I 907 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 7: was k solo at first UH. And there was other 908 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 7: people who rap with the Bomb Squad. Also, their professionalism 909 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 7: and the studio taught me a lot very young, like 910 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 7: when everybody else was banging on hoods and just kind 911 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 7: of saying versus outside they were making hooks. They had 912 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 7: so on format, they know how to they knew how 913 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 7: to lay in the studios down the scene that they 914 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 7: sounded outside in the studio. So, uh, I guess my 915 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 7: work ethic got drive and just being being close with 916 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 7: each other, like we would call each other over over 917 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 7: the phone, seeing each other's rhymes. 918 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 4: Here, here's what's going on, and just as we kept going. 919 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 4: Actually I had a job at odd job. How we 920 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 4: got on is I had an odd job at odd job. Uh, 921 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 4: I was. 922 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 7: Still part of me, but I was still truckloads and 923 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 7: ship and one day we just I stole the truckload 924 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 7: of tapes. Then we made a demo, and that demo 925 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 7: just kept circulating around. And their professionalism, and I think 926 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 7: the trials and tribulations of us, what we went through 927 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 7: in high school, what we was going through outside of school, 928 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 7: having stock jobs, part time criminals, having dreams of being 929 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 7: an MC's and just sticking without sticking to the guns 930 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 7: and believing in it. It forms something and then when 931 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 7: you split it, when you split a pizza three ways 932 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 7: or six ways or whatever amount of homeboys is there. 933 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 7: When you get a couple, you know, you're getting a 934 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 7: couple chicken wings and fried rice and you're breaking it down. 935 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 7: That kind of sticks with you. You don't you don't 936 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 7: forget those times. And I think we never forgot those times, 937 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 7: and us we always kept our brotherhood together. 938 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 4: Like even if you think about it, I don't a 939 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 4: bad boy. 940 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 7: When we was there, that was like we were on 941 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 7: the Chicago Bulls of rap and to risk it together, 942 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 7: we're saying, I like, fuck it, we feeling good. 943 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 4: Here, we don't like it here, this and that all right? 944 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 4: We made it. We could make it again. 945 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 7: So I think even going through everything we went through 946 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 7: is kind of put us in a place in a 947 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 7: position of saying, you know where what we have is 948 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 7: always bigger than what the what, what the game is. 949 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 7: We had a brotherhood. We built it together. We we 950 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 7: came about the Mother together, and knowing that it just 951 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 7: it kept us tight and it under we understood what 952 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 7: we were. 953 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 4: We were understood that brotherhood more than a group. 954 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 2: You know, when people speak of Yonkers, of course they 955 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: think of you first, they think of they think of 956 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: Mary were there any other hip hop legends from Yonkers before. 957 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 7: Mary with the first legend, actually Mary with legends before 958 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 7: we got on, right, Yeah, well made. 959 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 4: There's also Bill Blast. He was definitely legendary. 960 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 7: There was an MC I loved. His name was Universal. 961 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 7: We had colleague Kool, We had my man Og, Dusty Mike. 962 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 7: We had a few people, but I would say extra 963 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 7: Mary were the first legends of the town. 964 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 4: Like, what makes Ex a legend is here was a legend. 965 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 7: He was making solid music and tapes that everybody from 966 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 7: our time pretty much knew X. 967 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 4: Would be a star. 968 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 7: I think what made him legendary is we happened to 969 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 7: get on first from rap. 970 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 4: But X is the one who brought us to rough Riders, 971 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 4: brought rough Riders to us. 972 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 7: And I think for us to get on first and him, 973 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 7: I've never seen any bitter feelings towards towards that from X, 974 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 7: like I never seen, you know, because I think if 975 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 7: the situation was vice versa, I would have been pissed. 976 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 7: I think he had the confidence of knowing how much 977 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 7: of a huge star he was. He knew what was coming, 978 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 7: so it was important for us to throw, you know, 979 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 7: make sure he was on money, power, respect, and I 980 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 7: just think he understood the magnitude of how big and 981 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 7: now huge he was and where he was gonna go 982 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 7: in life. So I would say X and Mary are 983 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 7: with legendary before they were even knowing, Like Mary would 984 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 7: sing in the parks and the whole town would come out. 985 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 7: Like I knew Mary sing single digits. I actually knew 986 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 7: X and Mary before I knew kissing she can kiss. 987 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 7: I knew I knew Marry because she lived up Hire 988 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 7: and my cousin are close friends, which they still are 989 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 7: to this day. Like Mary calls me a little dave 990 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 7: to this day. Speed to Mary, I'm a little Dave, 991 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 7: Like you know what I mean. I knew Mary since 992 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 7: I was I was seven. I knew X because he's 993 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 7: from the south Side too, so he lived a few 994 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 7: blocks from me. So I knew of X from it 995 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 7: is extra curriculum activities in the neighborhood. 996 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 4: He was legendary on both on both sides of the defense. 997 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 2: But so when I used to work at Roughhouse Records 998 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 2: as an intern and I joined rough House right when 999 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 2: DMX was signed the rough House first he had a 1000 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: single out called born Loser. I believe that halftime by 1001 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: Nas which was on the Zebrahead soundtrack and Born Loser 1002 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: that came in the box the same day, So I 1003 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 2: deserved that. The DJs were you guys like aware of 1004 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 2: that level of dmxic think. 1005 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 7: We knew him, like even in zebra You remember, just 1006 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 7: speaking of Zebrahead, Deshaun I went to school. 1007 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: With him, weren't it. 1008 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 4: I went, oh, wow, I think his. 1009 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 7: Name is DeShawn Castle. Correct, yes, Shawn Castle. He used 1010 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 7: to wrap his ass off too. That's another person who 1011 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 7: used to rhyme from jan because I think actually I 1012 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 7: met she through from DeShawn and junior high. 1013 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 4: Me and Deshaun I knew him. 1014 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 7: I got kicked out of that school, but we went 1015 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 7: to It was a school called Hawthorne for the givet 1016 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 7: and Talented. 1017 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 4: They kicked my black ass right out of there. I 1018 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 4: was too bad for that one. 1019 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: Is that DeShawn? 1020 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: Is that the same DeShawn that was on the show 1021 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: Biz An AG album? 1022 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 4: Uh? 1023 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 3: Was did he ever sean you're talking about him to 1024 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 3: make any records? 1025 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 7: I don't remember if he was on show Business AG album. 1026 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 7: I do know he was the star Zebrahead though, Okay, 1027 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 7: all right, got. 1028 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I never knew his name, but he was dope. 1029 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I actually met she through him and in 1030 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 7: about seventh seventh grade, so uh yeah, I didn't know 1031 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 7: actually knew of the song Ship. We used to play it, 1032 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 7: we used to love it. And that's another reason, like 1033 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 7: God bless my brother asks why I have the utmost 1034 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 7: respect for him, because most people, when they get an opportunity, 1035 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 7: they lose out. It doesn't work the way they work, 1036 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 7: They tough, they tail and make it back. He never 1037 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 7: That's why he used a dog in real life. He 1038 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 7: had dog drive, he had dog will, and you know, 1039 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 7: I believe he had a lot of dog in them 1040 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 7: and a whole lot of God in a mix because 1041 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 7: his driving, his willingness to keep pushing flow was crazy. 1042 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 7: And if you've ever seen DMX in the Battle, his 1043 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 7: level different were fucking insane. It was the level of 1044 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 7: ferocity to nastity ferociousness was literally insane. 1045 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: At least, the perception was, Oh, you're going to be 1046 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: the first generation of privilege in hip hop, where you 1047 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 2: know your level of success is not going to be 1048 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 2: that of like Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five 1049 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 2: or Ultra Magneticum Seeds like you guys are actually going 1050 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 2: to be like national known and all that stuff. So 1051 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: just in the beginning and the very beginning, when the 1052 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: bad boy thing seems to be real, Like, at what 1053 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 2: point did it get real for you to know that, 1054 00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ, like, we're literally about to We're about 1055 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 2: to make it. 1056 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 7: I would say when we heard that Buff he heard 1057 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 7: the demo from Mary and he heard it on the 1058 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 7: tour bus and he liked it and he called us up, 1059 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 7: we pretty much knew that we were going to make it. 1060 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 4: That's one thing we had. 1061 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 7: We had a chip on our shoulder because we were 1062 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 7: from Yonkers, like because nobody from Yonkers was on God 1063 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 7: Bless the Dead, Heavy D was on prior to us. 1064 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 7: Brand New Leans is from New Rochelle. Mount Vernon is 1065 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 7: after Yonkers, so the Bronx is before Yonkers. So we 1066 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 7: were literally like the Yonkers is attached to the Bronx, 1067 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 7: Like as soon as you get out the Bronx, you 1068 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 7: ain't Yonkers. So we felt skipped over for so long 1069 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 7: that we we had the I believe part of us 1070 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 7: getting on was we had the utmost confidence and we 1071 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 7: always knew our shit. We always rehearsed a lot, We 1072 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 7: always memorized everything we were saying. 1073 00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 4: We always had good time. 1074 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 7: So by the time we got to Puff and they 1075 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 7: said we have to meet him at his office in Rhyme, 1076 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 7: we were already on. We're getting on. There was no 1077 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 7: doubt about it in any of our heads. Like we 1078 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 7: were looking at it as like we're so overlooked, but 1079 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 7: we're we're fucking nice. 1080 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 4: That's that's how we used to go about it. 1081 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 7: And we traveled enough around and you know, from different burroughs, 1082 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 7: different places, and just wrapping our ass off to. 1083 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 4: The point where we knew how good we were. 1084 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 7: So by the time we got there, and I would say, 1085 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 7: that moment you're asking for is when we did. 1086 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 4: You'll see. And then we found out Big was getting 1087 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 4: on your seat. 1088 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 7: We knew history, we knew where were in the books 1089 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,959 Speaker 7: because when Big met us, I would even say, before 1090 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 7: getting on, it's when Big met us and he said, y'all. 1091 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 4: Are fucking them sees damn. We got on MC's and 1092 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 4: I'm glad to have y'at here for us. 1093 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 7: That meant a lot because at the particular time he 1094 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 7: was the King of New York, he did he'd done 1095 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 7: something someone no one had ever did, and It wasn't 1096 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 7: just rhyming good because he rhymed well, but it was 1097 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 7: the fact that he was such a well rounded MC 1098 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 7: that he kind of did everything well and. 1099 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 4: He changed the trajectory of how the game was going. 1100 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 4: He was big, He was owning it. He was making 1101 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 4: fat people proud. He was saying things that nobody was 1102 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 4: even saying. Black and ugliest. Ever, how like he was 1103 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 4: just going from an angle of saying shit that was 1104 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 4: like wow, like uh, it's crazy, Like you know what 1105 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 4: I mean. 1106 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 7: I believe Nas opened the door for our generation of 1107 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 7: rappers like he Nas is the He's the I call 1108 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 7: him the baby of the grand Masters, which the lyrical 1109 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 7: grand masters, which would be Cougi King, k arrests and 1110 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,959 Speaker 7: rock him, nabody, all of that, but from the child 1111 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 7: who's seen crack outside and drug dealers and robbers and 1112 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 7: knew how to bring it to the table. Then I 1113 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 7: felt a whole Big Wu Tang Nas and all of 1114 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 7: that really I mean escalated it. But I felt Big 1115 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 7: also was able to put the vision of what drug 1116 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 7: dealers wanted outside what we were looking for, the firing 1117 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 7: things in life. 1118 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 4: I felt he was able to mess it all and 1119 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 4: then just bring something new to the table. 1120 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 7: So for him to feel that way about it's really 1121 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 7: made our confidence kind of boost out the door. 1122 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 4: Like we already was very confident. 1123 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 7: And then to get that love from somebody who was 1124 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 7: on who was on top, who you know, was being 1125 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 7: crowned the king of New York meant a lot to us. 1126 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 7: And then just being in Obsessions and working with him, 1127 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 7: speaking with him. Because besides that, like when we got 1128 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 7: into Bad Boy, our rooms used to merge, like we 1129 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 7: would go chill with you and Mafi and Big, they 1130 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 7: would chill with us. We would smoke together, we would 1131 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 7: drink it together. We were you know, I got to 1132 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,479 Speaker 7: see I got to see him making most of life 1133 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 7: after death. So that kind of feeling just puts you 1134 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 7: in a whole new way of belonging, Like you make 1135 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 7: it somewhere. To make it somewhere is one thing, but 1136 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 7: the question if you belong there is another. But to 1137 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 7: know you belong there is a whole nother feeling. Like 1138 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 7: so we had that feeling of knowing we belong. 1139 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 4: So it just made everything kind of great for us. 1140 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Quick question, how did you guys come up with the 1141 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 2: name of. 1142 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 4: The group, Well, we were the warlocks. 1143 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Ah, okay, were warlocks and. 1144 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 4: Took us the wars over. Drop it so for real, 1145 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 4: the war's over, So y'all can't be the Warlocks. But 1146 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 4: we wanted to be still who we were. 1147 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 7: So then we went home and I was like, you 1148 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 7: know what, actually what we were doing was and music wise, 1149 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 7: was we were living with our experiences. 1150 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 4: And that's what we put in our music. I was like, yo, 1151 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 4: living off experience y'all, and it was like, that's it, 1152 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 4: that's us just a lot. 1153 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Okay. I thought you guys were just enthusiasts for really 1154 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 2: good bagel sandwiches. I didn't know where the locks came from, 1155 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: so wow, sorry. 1156 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 3: See I steal my joke. 1157 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Next time I. 1158 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 3: Wanted to ask man. 1159 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 6: I read it was an interview or a quote somewhere 1160 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 6: where talking about the Let the Locks Go campaign when 1161 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 6: y'a were getting off Bad Boy. 1162 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 3: That that was Puff's idea. 1163 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 6: He wanted to kind of make it, you know, kind 1164 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 6: of on some uh you know pet Barnum, like make 1165 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 6: it a thing. 1166 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, make camp. That's that's a lot, okay, 1167 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 3: talk about it, that's a damn line. 1168 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 4: No, we went with let the Locks Go. 1169 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 7: Because we understood that we didn't have the financial power 1170 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 7: or the lawyer power to deal with to to win 1171 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 7: the fight we were trying to fight. 1172 01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 4: But what we understood was that. 1173 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 7: People who actually loved us on the street at that time, 1174 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 7: we did a lot of rumbling, a lot of making 1175 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 7: our name known, so people felt kind of connected to us, 1176 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 7: and we were blue collar rap so we figured we 1177 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 7: would do be smarter. But it and that we had 1178 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 7: we was like, all right, we can't win with money, 1179 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 7: we can't win with lawyers, but how do you pull 1180 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 7: out a strategy that works for. 1181 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 4: You and it's most and. 1182 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 7: Came up with We're gonna have the public joint in 1183 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 7: and just tell people what we're going through because at 1184 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 7: the time, the public opinion embarrassed to say, I'm not 1185 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 7: And what's crazy about it is we had a standard 1186 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 7: industry contract, which we welter. We pretty much had a 1187 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 7: standard contract. But we also, like I said, we were 1188 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 7: kind of I think with an epitome of blue collar 1189 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 7: and white collar mix and being streaked, but being also 1190 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 7: a little a little nerdy. Like everything is, if you 1191 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 7: sign a deal, no matter how bad it is, you 1192 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 7: should be able to renegotiate if you get get somewhere, 1193 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 7: like if you sell drugs. 1194 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 4: You know, I sold ten pieces for ten dollars. 1195 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 7: That's one hundred dollars. Now when you tell me I'm 1196 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 7: putting out an album, you know what I mean. I'm 1197 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 7: coming straight off the street. So it's no way I 1198 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 7: was gonna read all this paperwork and everything. That's happy. 1199 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 4: I wanted to be there. I'm as signing. But if 1200 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 4: you're telling me I'm only getting a h not even. 1201 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 7: A dollar off this album every album sold or not 1202 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 7: even two dollars, Now I got a problem and we 1203 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 7: gotta we gotta fix this. 1204 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 4: This ain't even cool. So we didn't really care about 1205 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 4: the image that everybody else was worried about. 1206 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 7: So we came with let the locks go, and we 1207 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 7: figured we'll use the power of the people, throw the 1208 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 7: T shirts on on summer jam, let everybody and involve 1209 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 7: the people with it and have the people on your side. 1210 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 5: That's where raping you records came from, right. I can 1211 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 5: just keep hearing it in my head because they be 1212 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 5: raping you, raping you, raping. 1213 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 4: Yup. 1214 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 7: So we just strategized and use what we felt would 1215 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 7: work for us, which was a campaign letting people know 1216 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 7: how we felt and that we didn't want to be there. 1217 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for clearing that up. Man, I read that before 1218 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 3: and it yeah, thanks for clearing. 1219 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 4: That up for Damn Line. 1220 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's good at it. 1221 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 2: So just in your career, like, what would you say 1222 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: is can you name at least three like the magic 1223 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 2: moments that you were there for or that that really 1224 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 2: impacted you. 1225 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 7: One getting on when you first get on, I would say, 1226 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 7: it is uh, veryful. Two I want to say it's 1227 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 7: a particular particular time and movement. But as I said, 1228 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 7: I sat down and reflected on all the artists that 1229 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 7: I worked with I was able to work with, and 1230 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 7: it made me have a high level of appreciation for myself. 1231 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 7: I think when you take a conscious look at your 1232 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 7: catalog and are able to say, oh, man, I worked 1233 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 7: with him, I worked with I did this, I've done that, 1234 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 7: it made me very proud. And then the Grammys definitely 1235 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 7: was a highlight moment because I felt that was that was. 1236 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 4: Worldly, like you know what I mean? And how do 1237 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 4: you put this? 1238 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 7: When you could do a stadium and you could do 1239 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 7: a small room, It puts you in and in the 1240 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 7: realization of. 1241 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 4: What you meet. The hip hop thinking about being on 1242 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 4: Bigg's album, Whole's album, a roots album. 1243 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 7: Doing a song with Mariah doing you know, being on 1244 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 7: a Ma Maya album, being on a j LO album, 1245 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 7: being on a Talb album. I would say after Versus 1246 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 7: too the au, Yes, yes, I suspect the verses where 1247 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 7: kids came up to us going, we're gonna learn our rhymes, 1248 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 7: We're gonna stop rapping over the track. Uh, we we're 1249 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 7: gonna have our show tight. We see what your brotherhood 1250 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 7: brings to the people. That was very important because I 1251 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 7: didn't understand. I never thought the magnitude of the after 1252 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 7: effect would be that big. And yes, yeah, So that 1253 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 7: was also a great moment in our career where we 1254 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 7: were able to say, staying on the hamster wheel pays off, 1255 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 7: like you you know what I mean, being able to 1256 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 7: stay on that wheel and that workout and do what 1257 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 7: you do continuously. Sometimes you don't get credit for what 1258 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 7: you do. You don't get acknowledgment, you don't get your accolades, 1259 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 7: you don't make certain lists, you don't get certain ackledgement. 1260 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 7: If you stick to what you do or it'll come 1261 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 7: around sooner or later. And Versus Versus showed us that 1262 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 7: because it wasn't about we love this set, those is 1263 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 7: our brothers. But to see that many kids come up 1264 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 7: to us after going we're gonna learn our rhymes and 1265 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 7: we're gonna stop performing over that track with the words 1266 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 7: on meant a lot to us because we felt we 1267 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 7: now did what we were supposed to do for the 1268 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 7: hip hop we grew up on. 1269 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 5: That's the one thing I was hoping. I was like, 1270 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 5: out of everything that came out of that versus, I 1271 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 5: was hoping that young artists are watching this and seeing 1272 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 5: what to do and what not to do. 1273 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so that meant a lot to it. 1274 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 5: One more question before you got because you mentioned you 1275 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 5: mentioned you and your wife Azua would do a couple 1276 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 5: of these shows. And I'm so curious because when we 1277 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 5: see as as a consumer and as a watcher of 1278 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 5: these shows, where we see you and your wife on them, 1279 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 5: we know what that brings. It brings a certain level 1280 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 5: of legitimacy to these couple shows, right because we know 1281 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 5: that y'all shit is real, y'all work on y'all shit 1282 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 5: every day. Whatever. But I'm so curious for you and Azua, 1283 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 5: why what's your motivation for doing these shows? 1284 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 7: One you want to build your marriage up, you want 1285 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 7: to learn what you can, but you also want to 1286 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 7: show people like, uh, we pride ourselves. There's never been 1287 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 7: a show where we were in ourselves or somebody could 1288 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 7: pay us to be out of pocket, act uncivil or 1289 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 7: so we're big on black love and black family and 1290 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 7: do what we can do for the black family and 1291 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 7: represent black love. 1292 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. It's great. It means a lot 1293 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:06,919 Speaker 5: to us to see y'all. 1294 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 2: Thank y'all, thank you, Thank you, brother Steve. I know 1295 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 2: you didn't get your cream cheese. That's all right. 1296 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm sure there'll be somebody else from a band. 1297 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, no. 1298 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 4: Plant based cream cheese. 1299 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. 1300 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 5: Oh that's yeah, I do like the plant based. 1301 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yo styles. Thank you so much for doing this, 1302 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 2: And really, I really appreciate you for having the courage 1303 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 2: to really live in your integrity. And I know you're like, 1304 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm not a leader, but you're an absolute leader, and 1305 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: you're a seed planner, and you know, like we're out 1306 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 2: here listening to you, and I'm especially out here listening 1307 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 2: to you. I thank you for that so because that 1308 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 2: that'll make me, that'll keep me on the straight and 1309 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 2: narrow as well, and then that will inspire someone else 1310 01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 2: and so on and so on. 1311 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 6: So no, man, Uh, from the time we met, like 1312 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 6: first time it was when you were at first kind 1313 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 6: of opening your juice bar when we did the Pharaoh. 1314 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 3: Mantch Black Can side video. 1315 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 6: I love that record, man, but we shot you know 1316 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 6: that in you know, in your in your bar, and uh, 1317 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 6: you just always been every time. I didn't even think 1318 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 6: you even knew who we were, you know what I'm saying. 1319 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 6: When Pharaoh hit me for that record, he was like, yeah, man, 1320 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 6: I want you to do a hook and I got styles. 1321 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 6: I was like word like style. I was like for 1322 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 6: real and I heard it. I was like, oh this 1323 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 6: shiit dovers hell. And so when I met you, man, 1324 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 6: you just always every time we saw each other was 1325 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 6: always love. You just always been just one of the 1326 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 6: most solid dudes in this game, man, And I just 1327 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 6: wanted to just you you love him space. 1328 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 4: You're having me on the project, bro. 1329 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 7: I told you, I'm a fan, man, a big, big fan, 1330 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 7: and question I owe you a personal think. 1331 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 4: I was scared to do something. I asked quests for 1332 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 4: a request at a party. 1333 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 5: Dude a record to playing record. 1334 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,799 Speaker 2: Not only did he request the record, I actually complied, 1335 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 2: and because I'm world famous for not but on top 1336 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: of that, on top of that, to this day, my 1337 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 2: first five records is Dreams. I played that. He has 1338 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 2: me played Fleetwood Mac Dreams. 1339 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 5: Wow, but in lovely. 1340 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 4: I got scared. That was one. See I could have 1341 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 4: mentioned my feelings. I was like, oh fuck, I think 1342 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,719 Speaker 4: I offended questions. 1343 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 1: I knew better than to ask, but I was like, 1344 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I had to ask this one. 1345 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 8: I felt like it was a good time to ask. 1346 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,600 Speaker 8: Look he waved me off, like no, this is like 1347 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,959 Speaker 8: it was like what record? I was like, creat Fleetwood 1348 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,640 Speaker 8: Mac and that ship. I appreciate that. 1349 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 2: Thank you surprised. Doesn't surprise you surprised them, know, because 1350 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: the thing was, I was in my jawing like come on, man, 1351 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 2: I got this. I know what I'm doing. And then 1352 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,600 Speaker 2: I thought about it and I was like, wait, he 1353 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 2: don't even know that. That's the perfect record to mix 1354 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 2: him right now. And I did it, and to this 1355 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: day is now in my first ten records. You brought 1356 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 2: that to my repertoire. So thank you again. You changing mind, 1357 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 2: You're changing my health and my creativity. I got the 1358 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,600 Speaker 2: request a quest love. Nobody does that. 1359 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,639 Speaker 5: You're right, I'm trying to trying to get into for years. 1360 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 4: I think that's gonna work right now. I gotta give 1361 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 4: it a try. 1362 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it like wave. I was like, oh my god, 1363 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 2: you wait, because I was. It was like juggling plates 1364 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: like trust me and people, Yeah, don't don't, don't get couraged. Don't, 1365 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 2: don't get couraged at all. 1366 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,640 Speaker 7: That was and it was a vegan It was a 1367 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 7: vegan plant based right. Shout out to chef Dan you 1368 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 7: home too, Yes, that was. Let me tell you something 1369 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 7: to a question. 1370 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 1: You are you know what it is. 1371 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 4: You are absolutely astonishing. 1372 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 7: Amazing DJ too, because that whole night was a lesson 1373 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 7: for me because I went, you know, sometimes you think 1374 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 7: people are great just in their field, and I've seen 1375 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 7: question other fields. 1376 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 4: But to rock that fucking party, what he was playing, 1377 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 4: what he was doing. If I was a DJ, I 1378 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 4: would have been taking notes. I would have I probably 1379 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 4: would have written everything down in my note notepad. But 1380 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,560 Speaker 4: you're an amazing person. Thank you very much, thank you, 1381 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 4: And that's a big more spot for me. I made it. 1382 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:26,719 Speaker 2: I gotta that's. 1383 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 4: Gonna go on my hip hop, on my hip hop. 1384 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 4: Great things I did I gotta, I gotta. I was 1385 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 4: able to get a make a suggestion and it happened. 1386 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 2: You made it happen. Yes, you did. A rare moment 1387 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 2: in Quest Left history. Thank you very much. Want to 1388 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 2: be having Steve and Fante and Laia and unpaid Bill 1389 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 2: uh And in the great style. See this is another 1390 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 2: classic episode of Quest Left Supreme. See y'all nextra. 1391 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. For more 1392 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 1393 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.