1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh four, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Episode four of Daily Like Guys to production of I 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Thursday, October seven one. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: It is National Chocolate cover Pretzel Day. An important day 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: for me and mine because I do love a good 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: chocolate cover pretzel as long as they're salted, you know, 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: I need I need that salty in that one you'll 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: buy at the store. I mean flips. I'm here for, 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: you know, flipping flipping out. Yeah, I'll go for anything. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: Probably be spoke to, you know, like sometimes you see 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: the ones that you go to a boardwalk and it'll 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: be like the pretzel rod, like just a straight shooter 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: where they have of it to prove to you this 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: is actually a pretzel, right right, not a carbon rod 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: or something. My name is Jack O'Brien a k. The 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: best part of vaccine up No swimmers in your come. 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Let's courtesy of Chris Mackling, a new take on the 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: fact that the vaccine, you know, makes you infertile. The 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: fact I'm gonna put that in quotes because I'm still 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: doing my own research on that. But you know, Chris 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: is pointing out here that that could just be birth control. 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: I could do something that you see as a positive. Anyways, 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: host Mr Miles Grab. What's with these homies soaking and girls? 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Why don't they wanna thrust? How did they ever do 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: it with guys when they just could and bust? But 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'll jump so that you could hump. I 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: won't close my Okay, shout out to oh Hi more 30 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: for that wonderful buddy Holly Wheezer LDS Soaking Jump Pump 31 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: Crossroads a K. Yeah, I love that song. Beautiful work. 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: I mean, soaking is the thing that's been around UH 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: for a while, but I feel like it's just re 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: entered the zeitgeist in away. Soaking is here to stay. 35 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm calling. I mean for someone who like a close 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: friend of mine in high school, he went to UH, 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: he played football at Utah. I remember the first fucking breakback. 38 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: He was like, yo, really they'd be floating and ship. 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this? So in a way, it 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: feels like that moment when Twitter is like ray J's 41 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: Brandy's brother on the Soaking Ship alright, Miles, Well, we 42 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined once again in our third 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: seat by a brilliant comedian, writer and actor who's written 44 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: for and appeared on Comedy Central and ABC. Ever heard 45 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: of him? His stand up albums the Blake album, Stuffed 46 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: Boy and Live from the Pandemic debut at number one 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: on iTunes and Amazon, and his album twe of Years 48 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: of Voicemails from Todd Glass to Blake Wexler charted on Billboard. 49 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? Yep? Oh, please welcome the hilarious, 50 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: the chaotic Blake Wexler. It's pipeline time. This is Blake 51 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Wexler a k A. The wexn Valdez a k A. 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: The oil spill Thrill a k A. The bargin Charge 53 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: a k a. The fossil fuel ghoul a k A. 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Smelly Ellie. No need for hysteria. It's the affected area. 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. It's I missed you, guys. 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: I I do all joking aside, and none of those 57 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: were jokes, but now I do want to be serious. 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: It's great you guys. I missed you. Thank you. Yeah, 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it's the feeling is mutual. Man, I'm it's funny. I'm like, 60 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: where are you been? You're like, I'm around. I'm like, Dan, 61 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm sucking up because I want to do I've been 62 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: needing to hear from Blake. It goes both ways. It 63 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: goes both ways, so I can reach out as well. 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Do you love the Blake went timely with his a 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: K S with the with the oil spill, and we're 66 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: still stuck on soaking and other come come based story 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: was from weeks ago, months ago. I was going to 68 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: write on the discord where everyone, like a lot of 69 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: people submit a K S. I'm like, y'all, I think 70 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: we're appreaching, we're approaching Pete come right, and we may 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: need to we may we may need to switch gears. 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: So a K writers, I challenge you for next week. 73 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: We'll just we'll get a few more days into this. 74 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I was, what's not not yet? What is oil? Though? 75 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: If not, the Earth's come? So I think we are, honestly, 76 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: And I who said that? Was that? R? L? Stein? Yes? 77 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. The first sentence in say cheese 78 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: and die, I think it was. Yeah. I thought it was, 79 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, he was dedicating the book to someone, but no, 80 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: it was actually just sage, Sage wisdom. Do you imagine 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: just like those pages that are just dedicated just a 82 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: serious book. In the first one, you're like, You're like, 83 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: isn't oil just the Earth's come? Like she what age 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: group is this book for? Who is this four? This 85 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: reprint of Infinite Jest is something else? The infinite Jizz? 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What here he is? Yes, we're back, young Chaos, 87 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Young Chaos, little chaos. Blake, you are coming to us 88 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: from the streets of Philadelphia. I am no, what's good man? 89 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: What's new in Philly? Philly's great. We had trash pick 90 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: up day today, which was one of my favorite days 91 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: of the week. You know, you clean the slate and 92 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: start over, pile that stuff up again. Found a dead 93 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: squirrel on the wind shield of my car, which I 94 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: took personally, and yeah, so that said fuck you, Blake. 95 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Your next it said you did this to me, Blake Lexler. 96 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: And then the first four numbers of my social were 97 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: generally it's the first three or the last. Yeah, yeah, 98 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: they did first four this time time. But yeah, no 99 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: dead Vermins and trash day nowmithstanding, Philadelphia is great? Yeah, 100 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: you know you've painted a beautiful picture. Yeah, I really 101 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: thank you. It's I'm a words myth, and I think 102 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: being a word s myth, I like drawing pictures with 103 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: my words. So yeah, we'll wonderful. Do you y'all? Do 104 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: you ever do that thing where you look at you, 105 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: like when you take your cans out, You're like, man, 106 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: I can get another weekend cans. They're called breast smiles 107 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: cans broge here for the for the garbage pick up. 108 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: I did that the other day. I'm like, I'm so, 109 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm such a dedicated bringer out of my garbage cans, 110 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Like there'll be one can in it, and I'll be like, yeah, 111 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: they should probably take this, But part of me is 112 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: like that seems like a waste of everyone's energy. If 113 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: like like sometimes if it's like less than a quarter full, 114 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: well on trash day, I'm like, I'll save them. I'll 115 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: save it. Yeah, I'll do the same thing where it's like, 116 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: well if I just hold onto this for another week. 117 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Cans don't generally smell because the smell is my worst fear, 118 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: but just period, the smell by trash is my worst fear. 119 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: But no, you're right with across all the spectrum of 120 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: your yeah brain, aneurism, earthquake, all those distant bite distant 121 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: number two, the smell of my cans. But yeah, no 122 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: can wise. Yeah, I mean if it just piles up 123 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: for another week, wait three weeks? You know what I mean? 124 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: It depends on the heat, you know, because I've think 125 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: I've chanced it before and I nearly like ended my 126 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: own life with like a bunch of old shrimp that 127 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: was in a garbage Oh no, like in the in 128 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: the heat. Not what could we talk about? Sorry, my 129 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: nose hairs like fell out of my nose, like I remember, 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Like the ammonia was like like little there's some dead 131 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: bodies we need to resurrect, bring them by this can. 132 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: That's some Christ. Yeah, no crustacean talk now on as 133 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: if you guys could be friends and not talk about 134 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: or mollusks. Okay, alright, Blake, we're gonna get to know 135 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, a 136 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about 137 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg. Thus spoke zuck. He spoke on you know, 138 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: all the all these you know, wild accusations being thrown 139 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: at Facebook. And he doesn't even like it's like they're 140 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: it's like these people are like a different planet, man, 141 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: Like what what are what are they even talking this? Really? 142 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: They say that about the great work we do. Come on, 143 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the January six witnesses, who are 144 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: seeming like they're hoping to run out the clock on 145 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: having to testify in front of the Congressional January six 146 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Committee because they have nothing to hide, so they're just 147 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna or their subpoenas. We're gonna talk about Havana syndrome. 148 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: There's a new newly unclassified report that we'll talk about 149 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: the implications of that. We will talk about the war 150 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: on Christmas, which the lives have already started, and we 151 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: will talk about why the Zodia Act killer has not 152 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: been identified. Finally, Yeah, what's the fund is that? I 153 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: just nott on Twitter? There's so many Zodiac killer jokes 154 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: to catch me up on these things. I wish I 155 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: gave a funk about the Yeah, that's one of those 156 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: things where people just wrote a million Zodiac jokes and 157 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: then they didn't get to like get them all out, 158 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: and they've just been holding onto them and then anything 159 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: tangentially related to the Zodiac Killer they get to just 160 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: unleash those like, you know, jokes they've had on ice 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: for the past however many years. My friend drafts, Yes, 162 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: that's as good of an explanation as anything I've been 163 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: able to come up with for why that story has 164 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: like blown up, because it's that the claim to like 165 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: they've solved that they have these are the people who 166 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: we would trust to solve it is non existent. I'm 167 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm totally confused by how this has become a thing. 168 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that ship Blake, 169 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something 170 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: from your search history. I will tell you that I 171 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to give Biles props God forbid real quick 172 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: where he made me laugh so hard in the intro 173 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: when you referred to a pretzel rod as a straight shooter. 174 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: I lost it. Yeah, I don't know, I'm not really 175 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: My vocabulary is has been altered by many drugs, so 176 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: I I arrived at different ways to describe things that, 177 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, than most people. Jack just took it as 178 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: just oh, that's a completely normal way to refer just 179 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: a straight straight shooter. Straight shooters get the straight shooters. Uh, nuggies. 180 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of pretzels, the pretzel taxonomy. I get. 181 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: I get. It's a strange world. Okay, my search history, 182 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: Uh was that your question? Was that your question that 183 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: you asked six seconds ago that I don't remember. I 184 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: searched Richard Gear Bill Clinton because I was watching that 185 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: impeachment show and we were like two and a half 186 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: episodes in my fiance and I and I turned to 187 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: her and I said, oh, I can't believe they got 188 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: Dick Gear, and she just kind of ignored it because 189 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: she thought it was like a dick joke. And then 190 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: after the episode, I searched like, oh wow, like I'm 191 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: under you know, is he like how many episodes? Like 192 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: has he ever done something like this? And then it 193 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: wasn't Richard Gear. It's Clive Owen who was playing it. 194 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: And for three whole episodes of the show, I thought 195 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was played by Richard Gear and had not 196 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: a clue in hell, Like if you if I was 197 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: to bet the safety of my loved ones and my dog, 198 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, it's Richard Gear, clearly. But now 199 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: it's not Richard Gear. It said. I mean, it's like 200 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: how you went like real familiar to right right? Well, 201 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep it interesting around that. Were 202 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: you able to find any other people making the same 203 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: mistake as you? Like that? That's always important when I 204 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: make a mistake is to be like, well, a lot 205 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: of other people like this has to be a trending 206 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: search term. Will just you know, say that, I can't 207 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: find anybody else making this mistake. I was too busy 208 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: looking up brain bleeds and uh, you know, other serious 209 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: medical issues to look into the rest of it. But yeah, no, 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: that is a good way. What do you have one 211 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: like that, Jack, where one time like you thought this, 212 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: and then a bunch of people like I haven't seen 213 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: anyone think Richard, you're for this. I don't even know 214 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: if the guy is still alive. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. 215 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: It's actually impossible to know. There's no way to know 216 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: for sure. How could you verify something like that? Yeah, no, 217 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I have a couple of these every day. My latest 218 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: was was just coming to the conclusion that everything is 219 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: fruits there there are no vegetables, and people were quick 220 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: to point out a bunch of a bunch of trends 221 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: of that nature that. So what I do is I 222 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: come on this show and just talk about how I'm 223 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: wrong about everything, and then people are like, yeah, me too, 224 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: and yeah that's how. Yeah, this is all a ruse 225 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: just for Jack to feel better about Like, what don't 226 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: we talk about this other thing? Jack, He's like, I 227 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't know about this anyone else, anyone else. Yeah. 228 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: I think the closest I did was like I didn't 229 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: realize it was Jillian Anderson in the Crown playing Margaret 230 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Thatcher the whole time, and I didn't even it didn't 231 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: even register. It was one of those things. I just 232 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I accepted the performance as it was, and it was 233 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: so strong. I was just I don't I didn't even 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: question who the performer was. I was like, this is 235 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Margaret Thatcher in the Crown, Margaret Thatcher as herself, Yeah, 236 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: the Crown. Yeah, And I just I don't know why. 237 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I just it never occurred to me. Normally I'd be like, wow, 238 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: this this performance is great. I think on someone it was. 239 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: It was so disarming. I went further and I was like, 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: this is a reality show. I think these are like 241 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: this is very very te stuff. It's Margaret Thatcher. Was 242 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: so weird that you think it's a bad performance before 243 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: you like, look up a clip of her. You're like, oh, 244 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: that's literally that's literally what she was, like, like that's 245 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: how she spoke man a very very affected way. But like, 246 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: what is something you think is over it? Subtitles? When 247 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you're watching television shows, if you're watching the show in 248 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: your language, like in the language that you speak, like 249 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: if you're watching a show in another language you don't 250 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: understand by all means, put subtitles Like I don't I 251 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: can context clues this probably understand. I gotta learn the 252 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: hard way. Yeah, I gotta. It's immersive. Yeah, but no, 253 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: I I know a lot of people and I do 254 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: this myself where you know, either you don't want the 255 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: volume on two loud because volume on things like swings 256 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: in such an insane way when you're watching something where 257 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: it could be people whispering and then there's like a 258 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: war scene and it's so fucking loud, you gotta like 259 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: turn the volume down real quick so you don't get evicted. 260 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: But so anyway, that was a tangent that, um, I 261 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: don't know how I got there, but my point is 262 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: is that I think, you know, I know, sometimes we'll 263 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: do subtitles if it's like like an English show for instance, 264 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: that you don't like. You can't pick up my accents 265 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: very well. Peaky is blinder, peaky, the blinders peaky. And 266 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: but in general, I think like a lot of people 267 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: leave it on, like I know, a lot of people 268 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: leave subtitles on. Take it off, you know, take it off, 269 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: enjoy the show, taking the visuals. Don't read the show 270 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: if you don't have to. Mm hmmm, I see, I 271 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: like it. I like it on me. Well, you know 272 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: that's what I said. You know, I guess that I'm 273 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: glad you came to fully implode your whole appearance here 274 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: on the show. So whenever what was gonna happen eventually, Yeah, yeah, 275 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: I know, but what better way than this? But for me, 276 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: it's mostly because like I'll be high and sometimes my 277 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: comprehension is better if I'm reading dialogue at certain times, 278 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: or if yeah, I think that's usually it, or like 279 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: in a case like Deadwood, like I had to keep 280 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: the subtitles on because everything was so fast paced and colloquial. 281 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: I did not know what was going on. And that's 282 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: a good point. Yeah, there are there are exceptions. That's 283 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: a very good point. There are exceptions. Thank you, thank 284 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: you so much for giving me, granting me a religious 285 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: exemption for that anytime. Yeah, sometimes that it will spoil 286 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: what you're watching, like the real will come on, come 287 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: in the subtitles before it's actually spoken. Yeah, Like when 288 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I was watching Old Yeller, I saw bang in brackets 289 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: before they shot the dog. I like, I was like, 290 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: fuck a double way. I mean, you know, it will 291 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: also spoil comedy too, like in all yeah, like a 292 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: joke real quick where it's like, but you'll start laughing 293 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: before you know. If it's a really good show and 294 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: then they do the joke, it's it's a very odd 295 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: way to digest something. But yeah, yeah, I was. I 296 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: recently ruined like a really funny punch line in the 297 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: other two for having the subtitles on, and I was like, 298 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Noah probably would have hit harder I saw that performance 299 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: rather than like I was like reading a script. And yeah, 300 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: to that point, I definitely agree with comedies, the timing 301 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: of the subtitles does not honor the timing of the delivery. 302 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: So sometimes the jokes are they land a bit better 303 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: when you hear them delivered exactly. I I read them 304 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: out loud while I'm watching it. Too. You know, let 305 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: my wife know that I predicted it, you know, like 306 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I knew that subtimes too. That's but it'll be a 307 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: dead scene, you know, like a like a dead scene 308 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: where it's not like super high impact and just reading 309 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: it out it's just the most annoying thing that you 310 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: can complai. Yeah, whispering it like really loud, No, I 311 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: never loved you, or mouthing it. Yeah, we're all mouthing 312 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: it right now, but we don't. Yeah, it's a podcast, 313 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: but they've been robbed of that. Yes, squid game. I've 314 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: I've watched now half of the third episode. This is 315 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: how I watched TV. And you know, with kids, as 316 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: you watch until they wake up or you know, you 317 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: pass out sitting up. But it's you really can't funk 318 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: with your phone all that much while you're watching a 319 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: show that does require subtitles to understand, Like, yeah, you 320 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: gotta respect the material. M that because that that second episode, 321 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you don't. I'm not going 322 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: to try and spoil anything. But there was like a 323 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: moment where there's this other character and I was like 324 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: I looked down for a second and missed all the 325 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: context around this character. And I'm like, what the wait, 326 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: where did this guy come from? And I was like 327 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: I had to stop and go back like five minutes 328 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: to realize. So, yeah, that's a I've never told anyone. 329 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: At the first time I saw the Country for Old 330 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Men in the theater, I just spaced out at the 331 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: end when he was doing that speech and then it 332 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: like ended, and everyone's like wow, And I'm like I 333 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: had no clue, like no idea four years. Like for 334 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: for maybe four or five years, everyone talk about how 335 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: great it was. I'm like, yeah, it was great, but 336 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know why it was great. Oh the Tommy 337 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Lee Jones speech. Yeah, the Tommy Lee Jones speech. Could 338 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: did not hear a word of it, Like was staring, 339 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: but did not hear a single word of it. What 340 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Owning as much 341 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: underwear as possible? Like and because whenever I do laundry, 342 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: it is almost always because I run out of like 343 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: clean boxer. I don't know why I felt it need 344 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: to clarify what type of but you have boxer briefs 345 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: and um what brand? Lucky brand? Actually? Wow? Yeah, when 346 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: you find a brand that works, I think you know, 347 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: for me, I stick with it and hopefully i'll you know, 348 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: get a couple not to make this a lucky brand commercial? 349 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: What why are you so brand loyal? What happened? It's so, 350 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean if we I have like openings a thick 351 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: actually the smallest fly opening out of all, it's almost jokey. Yeah, 352 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: I find it. Yeah, it's it's comforting in that way 353 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, to be honest, it is like I 354 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: have like a thicker ass, and they're good for a 355 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: thick ass. So yeah, about sometimes you'll go, I'm in 356 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: a similar situation. I'm just thick thighed, and sometimes my 357 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: the waste won't be the same as what the leg 358 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: holes need to be. And I'm like, you'll either be 359 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: like this fucking super loose waste but the leg holes 360 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: fit right, or you're wearing something that your waist fits right, 361 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: but you are like actively cutting off, like like your 362 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: femoral artery is being constricted by the underwear. So I 363 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: feel that. Okay, i'mnna looking into that. Yeah, it's good, 364 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: it's good. Try it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have four 365 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: pairs of box brief twins that are of all underwear, 366 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: just four pairs, So I four that are like recent 367 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: and you know, I really like those, and we'll do 368 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: laundry to get those. And then I have like twenty 369 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: pairs that are like disintegrating. Yeah, I don't like totally. 370 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm I need to change those out. But is that okay? 371 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: Quick question for the this triumvirate we have here is 372 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: it is this dude is watching your father wear disintegrated 373 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: underwear because my dad one of my earliest memories been like, 374 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: I think my dad is is in a is in 375 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: a bad place because his underwear is disintegrating. And I 376 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: remember early on my mom was like, you need no 377 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: wonder where, but he was like, no, it's fine, it's fine, 378 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: it's fine. And I'm like looking like the second you 379 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: said that, I was having a moment where I looked 380 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: at a pair of under and I got no, I 381 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: I get a few more out of these. Yeah, And 382 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why. But I don't know if that's 383 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: learned or not. Now it wasn't learned for me. My 384 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: dad was on top of this underwear game. And just 385 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: you know that a hepple fell real far from the tree. Yeah, 386 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: I think it is also the fact that no one 387 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: sees it. Really you know what I mean, where if 388 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: you had a tattered shirt, you people be like this 389 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: guy's like is yeah in a bad plating. They're not 390 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: doing well, you know, But like tattered underwear, it's like, well, 391 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's still not necessarily uncomfortable, but you know, 392 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: recently I was like, you know what, you have worked 393 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: hard enough for a long enough that you don't need 394 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: to have like this b team of like rags, you 395 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like in the thing. So but 396 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: but Jack, I can totally relate to what you're saying 397 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: as well. It's just a thing like I don't think 398 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: about I guess I just rocked the vapor wear sometimes, 399 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, just falling apart, threadbear barely hanging onto the 400 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: waist band. And then sometimes I've like rage ripped them 401 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: up while they're on. Wow. Yeah, just like anger at 402 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: the like being in one of those like porcelain smashing rooms, 403 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: ripping off your own underwear, like like like I've done 404 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: that with a T shirt before. That is very satisfying. 405 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: It's very on a T shirt, but like wait, do 406 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: you have your pants on while you're shredding it off? 407 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: So you just like pull it's a trick. Oh yeah, Yeah, absolutely, 408 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: that's what makes you do on most of my first dates. Yeah, 409 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: that's the closer he called that. That's that's how he 410 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: closed the deal. He'd tar off his own underwear. And 411 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: I mean you knew very quickly that was someone to 412 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: be like so put off by it that it ended there. 413 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Or they would lie about being put off and say 414 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: that they had an appointment that they forgot they had. 415 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: And those were the only two scenario. I have an appointment, 416 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: or someone's like, oh my god, no, what is that. Alright, 417 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be back to 418 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: talk about the news. And we're back and Mark Zuckerberg, 419 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's been a lot of negative talk negative 420 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: Nellie's out here in the news talking talking trash about Facebook, 421 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: and Mark Zuckerberg apparently just found out about it, and 422 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: he's like, huh, how is this is not? Is not 423 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: the company that I know? So he has decided to 424 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: post on looks like on Facebook to defend the company. 425 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: And yeah, he just sounds like he is a dictator 426 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: who just can't just through like sheer Will is trying 427 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: to convince people that none, none of these problems exist. 428 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: It's very much a gaslight job, like on his own employees, 429 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: because these people they're doing the fucking workful like these aren't. 430 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: These are just like lemmings who are like, please give 431 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: us are like if you're working in these different departments, 432 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: like Francis Hoagan was, they know exactly what's going on. 433 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Because she's saying, these people are like in a lot 434 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: of these other subgroups are getting upset that there isn't action. 435 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: So he's saying, look, his first part of the letter 436 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: is him talking about like, oh, that was a big 437 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: boner on Monday Hunt with what'sapp going down? Oh, and 438 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: then he's like, I'm sure many of you have found 439 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: their recent coverage hard to read because it just doesn't 440 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: reflect the company we know. And again he will not 441 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: reference Francis Hoagan or referred to a whistle blow or 442 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: anything of that nature. Quote. We care deeply about issues 443 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: like safety, will being and meant all health. It's difficult 444 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives. 445 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: At the most basic level. I think most of us 446 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: just don't recognize the false picture of the company that 447 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: is being painted. I'm I'm sorry about that. He goes 448 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: on to say many of the claims don't make any sense. 449 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create 450 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: an industry leading research program to understand these important issues 451 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: in the first place. If we didn't care about fighting 452 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: harmful content, then why would we employ so many more 453 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: people dedicated to this than any other company in our space, 454 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: even ones larger than us. I'm sorry, who is larger 455 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: than them? Social media space? Yeah? What Google? I guess 456 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: because of ads maybe if that's if they're looking as 457 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: an ad business, But even then, I don't that's a 458 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: weird claim even you know, even the bigger guys are 459 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: doing stuff not as good as us, Like you're the 460 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: fucking giant of the land. I love that he got 461 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: a brag in there too, you know, like whenever someone's 462 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: writing an apology and they find a way to brag 463 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: as well, we have industry leading research. Just yeah, you 464 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: don't have to put that in there. But it's funny 465 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: because there's allegations about how research has been wound down, 466 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: and Francis Howgan was even saying that, like they're like 467 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: in Amy Colobus are their book touching on this fact 468 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: that some of the data is not available to people 469 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: who are actually trying to research a lot of this ship, 470 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: so that's not really true Mark, And also like, yeah, 471 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: just having a research body doesn't mean you're doing it 472 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: to fucking like Exxon was researching global warming. That doesn't 473 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: They're not like why would we have industry leading research. 474 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: It's because they have to know what the funk their 475 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: product does in the real world, and they're just like, okay, fun, 476 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: don't talk about that ship. So based on like all 477 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: the reading about in like the internal dynamics of Facebook, 478 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: they do the research. They hire people like Halgan who 479 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: do the research and make these recommendations, and it's not 480 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: usually I don't think they fire them. They just ignore 481 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: the funk out of them and promote the people who 482 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: come up with ways to you know, increase engagement. Like 483 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: it's it's just a it's a very passive way of 484 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: just you know, dealing with a problem by not dealing 485 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: with it. Basically, speaking of research body, if I was 486 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: to describe Mark Zuckerberg's physique, I'd call it a research body, 487 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: like that's that's how he looks. His other defense is 488 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: also really like quote and if social media where it's 489 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: responsible for polarizing society, as some people claim, then why 490 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: are we seeing polarization increase in the US while it 491 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: stays flat or declines in many countries with just as 492 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: heavy use of social media around the world. Well maybe 493 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: because you've been here longest. Yeah, it's a matter of time, 494 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: because it's not like you haven't seen like other political 495 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: unrest be explode out of people using Facebook. So I 496 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: don't exactly know what his claim is because he's clearly 497 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: avoiding things like ethnic cleansing that would be organized via 498 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: face book, because that's not polarizing. It's just another very 499 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: selective bit of data he's using to defend himself when 500 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just clear that he's desperate and this 501 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: is all looks just fucking terrible. Yeah, And I like, 502 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: I do think that is probably an effective line of argumentation, 503 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: because it's true that, like social media isn't the only 504 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: reason that polarization is increasing in the US, But I 505 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just very it is an ingredient. And also, 506 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: like you said, there have been plenty of incidents where 507 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: it escalated wildly and incredibly dangerously in other in other countries. Yeah, exactly. 508 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: And you know, people are like, do you have you 509 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: looked in what's going on? In you know, me and 510 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: mar and like, okay, whatever, we'll just we'll just look 511 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: away from the glaring lights. And then this other one 512 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: is just fantastic. The argument we deliberately push content that 513 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: makes people angry for profit is deeply illogical. We make 514 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: money from ads, and advertisers consistently tell us they don't 515 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: want their ads next to harmful or angry content. And 516 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know any tech company that sets out to 517 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: build products that make people angry or depressed. The moral, 518 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: business and product incentives all point in the opposite direction. Okay, 519 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: that maybe, but I'm not sure. Again, this is another 520 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: thing where, of course advertisers aren't like, yeah, man, put 521 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: my ship next to like the most violent fucking video. 522 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: The whole thing is you go to Facebook because of clicks. 523 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Any advertiser online goes to a media property for clicks 524 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: or engagement and like, and just as Francis Hogan said, 525 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: more engagement is the thing that you can hold up 526 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: in front of people who are trying to buy ads 527 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: and they go, oh fuck, yeah, so it's popping over there. 528 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: That's where I'm trying to put my advertiser where there's 529 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of activity. So even this one, it's so 530 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: deeply illogical that this would how could that occur? Yeah, 531 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: it's easy to recategorize like things like that and be like, well, 532 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: that's not designed to make people angry. They're interested in 533 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: for this other reason, Like that's it's just such a 534 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: vague explanation for like that allows them to just sort 535 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: of recategorize things and let themselves off the hook. Yeah. 536 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: It's also a very inhuman response to a deeply human issue, 537 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where like these issues that 538 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: people like the collateral damage that social media does are 539 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: mental health. It's mental health. It's deeply human issues. And 540 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: when you respond to it in such an analytical, you know, 541 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: like computerized way, like completely Yeah, it just shows the 542 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: exact problem the situation, like, well, know that the money 543 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: comes in and that business is doing wean we're not 544 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: actively trying to do Yeah, maybe not deliberately, but it's 545 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: you're the way things are set up, that's where you're incentivized. 546 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: So what are you saying here? But the last paragraph 547 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: is like sounds like some evil villain that runs like 548 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: this dystopian society. Oh wait, that is just him, he says. 549 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: When I reflect on our work, I think about the 550 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: real impact we have in the world. The people who 551 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: can now stay in touch with their loved ones, create 552 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: opportunities to support themselves and find community. This is why 553 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: billions of people love our products. I'm proud of everything 554 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: we do to keep building the best social products in 555 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: the world, and grateful to all of you for the 556 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: work you do here every day. Yeah sure, Okay, Well, 557 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really curious to see what his inner 558 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: thought processes around this, because I'm sure that Richard Blumenthal thing, 559 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: where's like yes ZARKI Zark Zark Muckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg needs 560 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: to get in here and explain a lot of these 561 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: things out loud and not just be like a senator. 562 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: That's highly illogical. Um to say that, I don't know 563 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: what that would look like, but it's it's hard to 564 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how you dance around really direct questions 565 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: given Francis Hoggins testimony, and to just equate the fact 566 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: that they get money for ads and advertisers like keep 567 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: paying with they're not being a social problem is just 568 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: so like, you know, it's it's just the most base 569 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: level like market make good. Everything good gets market bucks, 570 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 1: and the thing that they the reason that they are 571 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: so dominant in advertising is the level of data that 572 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: they've collected about anyone. It has nothing to do with 573 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: like why people are on the site in the first place, 574 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Like they have unprecedented amounts of information and like these 575 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: psychological profiles of people that are you know, things that 576 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: if you had told an advertiser about it twenty years ago, 577 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: they would have fucking shot in their pants, Like it's 578 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: the best thing that they could possibly imagine. And yeah, 579 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: the fact the fact that people are willing to pay 580 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: for that has nothing to do with like the the 581 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: idea that you're doing it for the right reason or 582 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: using it in a non evil way. Sorry for the 583 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: shot and the pants thing, it's just picturing Don Draper 584 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: just hearing about Facebook and you know what, Oh my god, Yeah, 585 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: truly a let's talk about um January six Commission or 586 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: the Congressional January six Committee, because there are some pretty 587 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: key players Dance Cavino, Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Cash Patel, 588 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: who are all Trumpers that have been subpoena to testify 589 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: in front of the Congressional January six Committee, and they're 590 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: they're just like kind of ignoring it. Yeah, like they say, 591 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: of like everyone except dance Govino they think has been served. 592 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: But apparently dance Govino is just acting like a regular 593 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew in his attempts to duck process servers and 594 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: just going too like a hidi hole to be like, 595 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him, so you have to 596 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: serve someone else. But despite all of that happening, it 597 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: looks like even if they're served, their game plan is 598 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: just to fucking ignore the subpoenas because Trump told them 599 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: to and there's you know, the same thing blah blah 600 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: blah executive privilege. Do they have a plan? There's like 601 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: in this Guardian article, people like, it doesn't really seem 602 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: like there's a plan here, more so that they would 603 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: probably just try and run out the fucking clock and 604 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: hope the Republicans take the House back by the mid 605 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: terms and then what January six commission are we talking about? Yeah, 606 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: so a bit of a cynical play from them, but 607 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: I expect nothing less from people who are you know, 608 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: hell bent on just you know, overturning an election. But yeah, 609 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, people in the committee though, have said from 610 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: the beginning, like this isn't gonna be the same as 611 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: like when Trump was in the White House, how we're 612 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: going to handle executive privilege. Sure, Mark Meadows and Scovino, 613 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: they definitely worked in the West Wing, so there is 614 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: an element there of executive privilege. But in terms of 615 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: like using that to like not comply with this subpoena 616 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: there they have been saying like we we will issue 617 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: criminal referrals like if we if if we're being ignored. 618 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: I hope that's what happens. Part of me, just looking 619 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: at the data set of the American legal system and 620 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: how powerful white men are able to get away with anything, 621 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried that that might not happen. 622 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: But it also seems like, you know, many of the 623 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: people on the committee are really interested in at least 624 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: trying to find some semblance of accountability. But it's like 625 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: one of those things where you just kind of like, 626 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: wait and see. I guess yes, speaking of powerful white men, 627 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: I had a very scary situation recently where I saw 628 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon wearing the same coat that I own, and 629 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: it was absolutely horrifying. Where I was really really excited 630 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: about by d coat and then saw Steve Bannon wearing 631 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: it was a barber coat wearing the same brand, and 632 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know what the funk to 633 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: know what I think about anything anymore? To be true, 634 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess if I have the same 635 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: fashion sense is that pig, I should probably just let 636 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: someone else shop for me. You are wearing three three 637 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: colored shirts right now, on top of each other, the 638 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: only the middle collars popped the other or appropriately pressed down. Yeah, 639 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: he really loves that coat, huh. I feel like he 640 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: has on like five J Crew outfits at any given time, 641 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: just like on top of each other. Yeah. So I 642 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: guess it maybe looks more balling if you wear like 643 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: multiple pieces of clothing, like just so you know, like 644 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: you maybe you may have three hundred dollars or the 645 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: clothing on, but I have seven thousand dollars or the 646 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: clothing because I'm wearing fourteen shirts and thirteen pairs of pants. Yeah. 647 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: So he's actually a very slender man. We just couldn't 648 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: tell because of you never know, you've been wearing the 649 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: whole time, just big fear of his losing his clothes, 650 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: This big and greatest fear that in America, his greatest 651 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: fears are doing the right thing is number one, losing 652 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: and losing all my clothes just a serious interview, and like, 653 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's I know it may sound weird, 654 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: but if you've ever lost all your clothes, it's it's 655 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: a frightening prospect. And I just want allowed myself. I 656 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: just want allow that to happen to me. Steve, what happened? 657 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: How did you lose your clothes? It went to a wedding. Look, 658 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: they lost my baggage. I had to wear a suit 659 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: that was a little too baggy for me, and it 660 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: was just Ever since then, I vowed to always wear 661 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: on my clothes. People kept talking about the Emperor has 662 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: new Emperor's new clothes around like around the Trump administration. 663 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: He finally read it and was like, oh no, that 664 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: went the opposite direction. Just in case some of these 665 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: are invisible, I want to guarantee no one sees me naked. 666 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah about at fourteen cultures. All right, let's take another 667 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: quick break and we will be right back to talk. 668 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: Havanna syndrome. Havannah good time, and we're back and so 669 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed released a de classified scientific review of the attacks 670 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: that have been described as Havannah syndrome. That the attacks 671 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: should be in quotes, because they found what we had 672 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: suspected what a lot of people have talked about, that 673 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: the noises that they were associating with the attacks that 674 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: first happened in Havannah were crickets and it was a 675 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: D classified like State Department studies. So it's not this 676 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: isn't like an outside researcher, this is like what they 677 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: have learned themselves. Now, around this time, the Biden administration 678 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: had started referring to Havana syndrome is unexplained health incidents, 679 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: which kind of suggested they were backing off of the 680 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: idea that they were deliberate attacks from you know, adversaries. 681 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: But because that became a story, they now have issued 682 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: a new report that seemed to back and like jump 683 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: back into the this is an attack camp because the 684 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: people who you know, are suffering the symptoms believe that 685 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: they were attacked and that they're very sensitive understandably about 686 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: because we're in their country attacking them, right exactly, So 687 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: you very much would be the fuck. Okay, I'm just 688 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm just a nurse, that's all. I am, not a CIA. 689 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, the Miami Harold Peace about like the new 690 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: this new direction quotes a and the this is a 691 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: trend senior administration official, but no name. We need to 692 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: believe our personnel who are coming forward, people are facing 693 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: real symptoms. We are very conscious that people are experiencing 694 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: something very real and it's having a real negative effect 695 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: on their health health and we're seeing better health outcomes 696 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: the sooner we can respond to that. So it's like 697 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: they're trying to treat it as though it's a real thing, 698 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: because it is, as we've talked about functional disorders, like 699 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: they're the real thing. That these people are experiencing real symptoms, 700 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: they're not just making them up, but that it is 701 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: probably a neurological and you know, a stress based thing. 702 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: That and that is the thing that explanation is very 703 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: offensive to anybody who is suffering from this. And so 704 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: that there's this new article from Jacobin that just kind 705 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: of puts this in the context of a bunch of 706 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: different stories over the course of like the last twenty 707 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: five years that have been kind of adopted and just 708 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: repeated by the mainstream media because they are you know, 709 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: they go in the direction of like helping America maintain 710 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: an aggressive foreign policy. So they start with a Havna 711 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: syndrome reporting and just like all the different headlines that 712 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: flatly state that Cuba attacked US diplomats, which you know 713 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: are generally CIA agents, and you know, pointing out that 714 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: any time somebody is quoted, it's always they're always quoted 715 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: on background, or they're quoted as like a unidentified administration official, 716 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: and they point out like this is this happened immediately 717 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: after Trump indicated that they were going his administration was 718 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: going to go like hard in the opposite direction of 719 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, start being like really hostile towards Cuba. 720 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: And then this event happened, and they seized on it 721 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: and started ramping up their negative foreign policy. But they 722 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: kind of put it in the context of you know, 723 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 1: the New York Times, all these mainstream media outlets trusting 724 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: military officials on things like Russia Gate, which in addition 725 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: to being hostile towards Trump, was also allowed the military 726 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: to make Russia seem more dangerous. And you know, with 727 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: a lot of the Iran reporting towards the end of 728 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, because they were trying to justify a 729 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: like this says Iran on it. I don't know if 730 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: what you want to do with that, maybe do a war. 731 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, I don't know. There's no 732 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: we don't have a pattern of doing that at all 733 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: in this country. Yeah, but it just reminds me of 734 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: like the you know, we talked about the news real 735 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: ying on police sources and especially like for the local news, 736 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: and like, you know, the guys with guns are the 737 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: sources that they need to satisfy like audience blood lust, 738 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 1: and like their willingness to chase that blood lust makes 739 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: it so that we live in a world that we 740 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: think is more dangerous and keeps people tuning in, and 741 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: it also just creates this sort of feedback loop where 742 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, the version of like the world that exists 743 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: in the minds of the military and the police gets 744 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: like filtered back to us over and over again, and 745 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, why, why is that, Like after 746 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: the most catastrophic like mistake in the you know, recent 747 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: history of America going to war and Iraq was like 748 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: turned out to be based on a complete lie, you'd 749 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: think that the mainstream media would have like altered their 750 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: approach a little bit and been a little bit more 751 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: willing to pump the brakes on ship like this, But 752 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: it just seems like that is as currently constituted, Like 753 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: unless something kind of dramatically changes, the mainstream media will 754 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: let the military feed them, you know, bullshit. I think 755 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: that the tolerance for bullshit stories from the Pentagon is 756 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: higher because they're all they all have a relationship with 757 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: each other. You know. It's like you have a homie 758 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: who may bend the truth from time to time. You're like, Okay, 759 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: all right, that wasn't the best thing, but we're still 760 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: good because I know you. And it's the same thing, 761 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: like you'll get burned by just straight up misinformation from 762 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: the Pentagon, and still it's like, no, it's all good, 763 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: like you don't worry about it, Like we gotta keep 764 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: this thing going. You know, General Electric and the Pentagon 765 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: do some good business together. And we're also NBC, so 766 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, well let's let's you know, we're not gonna 767 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: make it too hot for anybody. Yeah, can I be 768 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: honest about this before we move on, just real quick. 769 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: I think this Havana syndrome is jamaking me crazy? Are 770 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 1: you you gotta have they had a tough time about 771 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm having a tough time the vents and it's the 772 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 1: sword of God. I'm being serious. I know it's making 773 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: the problems, that's the problem. Oh man, Yeah, I mean 774 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: so many reporters like get into the game because they 775 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: would like want to be war correspondents, like they have 776 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: that like kind of you know, they grew up on 777 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: the idea of like going to Vietnam and being a 778 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: reporter on that or you know, and it just you know, 779 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: as Blake, I think you were suggesting as jamaking them crazy. 780 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: It is and that's exactly not even suggesting just what 781 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: I was pointed Lee saying, I think there's no room 782 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: for interpretation there. In college, I had a I took 783 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: a class called war reporting, and my professor was a 784 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: former like embedded journalist, and he would never he would 785 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: always just show us movies and we would never were 786 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: like it's like, why, like you have the most interesting 787 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: story in the world, why wouldn't you just teach us? 788 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: And then one day there was this growing class like 789 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: who just well, maybe like laid in a little too hard, 790 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: being like all you do is show us movies, Like 791 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: why don't you actually instruct us and tell us what 792 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: it was like being there? And a forty five minutes 793 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: story of one of the most emotionally traumatizing things I've 794 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: ever heard in my entire life. The one time he 795 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: ever told a story about his time and war, about 796 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: how his guide was like murdered right in front of him, 797 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: and then the whole class was like completely silent. Negoes 798 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: all right, I think we're done for the day, and 799 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: then he and we're like never asked him to talk 800 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 1: about it again. We just watched movies for the rest 801 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: of the semester because it was that. It's like, yeah, 802 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: that's why he doesn't talk about it, you know what 803 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean. Anyway, this random side note, but seriously, that 804 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: that JA made me sane. That the joke doesn't work 805 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: when you change it. That JA made me sane. You 806 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: can workshop that one. Yeah, come back, that's the fun. 807 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: Well we came up with okay, yeah, yeah, that's fine. 808 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: I think it will stand. Just maybe it's give it 809 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: a few years. Yeah yeah, we'll just we'll come back. 810 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: Pittsford will do the the red Yeah, alright, let's talk 811 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: about the War on Christmas. That was the war that 812 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: he was embedded in. By the way he was embedded 813 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 1: in the War on Christmas, it's uh it's begun. Fauci 814 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: said in an interview that it's just too soon to 815 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: tell whether holiday gatherings will need to be restricted due 816 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: to the pandemic for a second year in a row, 817 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: which is here he goes alarm. It doesn't really say anything. 818 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 1: It's like a non answer that doesn't really offer any 819 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: specifics for what kind of restrictions they might put in place. 820 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: But right wing media, you know, I I guess the 821 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: fact that he was willing to answer a question like 822 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: enraged right wing media. The National Review wrote an article 823 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: calling him a grinch, and you know, their Fox and 824 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: Friends labeled Faucia grinch because they you know, that was 825 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: too good not to repurpose. October. It's October. They they're 826 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: talking Grinch and claimed that he was about to cancel 827 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: Christmas based on his statement that it's too soon to 828 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: tell that I it's a seems fully fabricated. But so 829 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: there are actually this year, like legitimate threats to the 830 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: Christmas traditions that they seem to hold so dear, such 831 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: as you know, supply chain problems that are going to 832 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: make it so that it's harder to order presents for people, 833 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: or you know, the due to uh, climate change, there 834 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: are fewer Christmas trees available, and you know, there's a 835 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: shortage of truck drivers because as their wages have declined 836 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: over the years, there's just been a problem with finding 837 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: enough people to do that job. As The New York 838 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: Times pointed out, it takes a peculiar, a peculiar form 839 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: of logic to cut pay steadily and then be shocked 840 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: that fewer people want to do the job. But that's 841 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: what happened in the truck driving industry. And also because 842 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: of you know, slowdowns in manufacturing, there has been a 843 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: slowdown in the production of fake Christmas trees. So these 844 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: are all things that the real spirit of Christmas, and 845 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: they don't they don't they're not interested in talking about 846 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 1: that ship though. I mean, I think for their sake, 847 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: like the Fox News that you probably don't want to 848 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: have all of your unlike most of your unvaccinated base 849 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: take airplanes to congregate because that you know, they're already 850 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,479 Speaker 1: like getting freaked out, like by the demographics of how 851 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: like the pandemic is affecting things. So there's gonna be like, no, man, 852 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: get together. Folks don't worry about any kind of spiking cases, 853 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: just do your thing, y'all. I it's I don't know, 854 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: this is just it's watched. It's it's fun watching them 855 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: get so outraged. And I mean, so were there things 856 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: in place that like actually stopped people from congregating or 857 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: was it just like advice last year, like it's right, yeah, yeah, 858 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: it's just that I like they I'm so confused what 859 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: they like. At the height of the pandemic, they just 860 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: offered guidance. They're like, okay, big brother, nice try asshole. 861 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh you said it's it's and advisable to gather with 862 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: elderly family and when there aren't vaccines, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, 863 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's yeah, they were just merely guidelines. 864 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: But I think most people because they were able to 865 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: look around in their communities or just the news and like, okay, 866 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: so this is real and there's the potential for untold 867 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: harm for people that I will I will heed these guidelines. Yeah, 868 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: I mean jm Our writer Jam McNabb was pointing out 869 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: that like this actually kind of obscures, how, you know, 870 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: focusing on the idea that he merely mentioned that he 871 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: might at one point consider giving some travel advisories around 872 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: Christmas like, so that caused him to backtrack and he 873 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: was Fauci was like, now you have misinterpreted me. I'll 874 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: be spending Christmas with my family, which is like, again, 875 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: way too soon to tell whether that's a good idea 876 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: or not. The c d C uploaded their holiday guidance 877 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: to their website, which was picked up by multiple news outlets, 878 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: but then they deleted it because they had actually put 879 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: up last year's holiday guidance instead of this year's and 880 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: they haven't figured out what their guidance is going to 881 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: be in twenty one. Fucking it's just a position for 882 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: them to be in where they're like, fuck, don't say 883 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: don't give them real advice or else they're gonna accuse 884 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: us of stuff. So let's water it the funk down. Yeah, 885 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: because the situation is just my uncle is a big 886 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: Fox newsperson, and uh I gave him. I put like 887 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: he's a bad guy, so I put call in his 888 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: stocking and then he pulled it out and he's like, 889 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: this is such a great gift. This is my favorite 890 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: fuel source. So don't give Fox News people calling their 891 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 1: stockings because they'll they'll completely misinterpret it as a gift. 892 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: Did he did he take a bite out of it too. 893 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, you don't think I will. You don't 894 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: think I will watch this? Yeah, for the course of 895 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 1: the next three days jokes on asshole. Yeah, oh god 896 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: god yeah. But I mean the big news story of 897 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: the day is really of yesterday. I guess that that 898 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 1: the zodiacler has finally been identified according to TMZ and 899 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 1: you know all the other main news sources, Fox News. 900 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: So a group of researchers, I did someone named Gary 901 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,720 Speaker 1: Francis Post, who died in eighteen as the Zodiac killer. 902 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: The degree toward this got pick up would have suggested 903 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: it was like a law enforcement agency that had like 904 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: done some some sort of d n A linkage um. 905 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: But they so they're made This group has made up 906 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: of former investigators and journalists, so essentially volunteers acting in 907 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,359 Speaker 1: no official capacity. They the case breakers, right, They're called 908 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: the case Breakers, and they one of their like key 909 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: theories is that Post also killed Sherry Joe Bates in 910 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, whose death was followed by a Zodiac 911 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: like letter. And this is strange because the police were 912 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: into a Zodiac like letters. So it's not like nobody 913 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: entertained this idea that it was that was from the 914 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer and her murder was part of the Zodiac killings. 915 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: But they looked into it and the letter was revealed 916 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: to be a hoax and an actual cold case units 917 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: have already like investigated that that case and concluded that 918 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: the murder is not connected to the Zodiac case. So 919 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: they're just like putting out a theory that most people 920 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: believed to have been widely disproven and saying, well, here, 921 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 1: here's your evidence. And then there's also like the evidence 922 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: that they're pointing to. Our photos from posts dark room 923 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: actually matched scars on the police sketch of the Zodiac killer, 924 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: which it's just it's just creases in a forehead. Oh no, 925 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: oh no, come on, case breakers, Yeah, come with some 926 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: come on come. They also claim that they deciphered new 927 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: code and the Zodiac, like 's that could only be 928 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: cracked if you knew if you know Gary's full name. 929 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: But there they're not revealing that just yet. They want to. 930 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: They're being proprietary about their solution. The fucking cyber Ninja's 931 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 1: my pillow voting audit, Like, what the fund is it? 932 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: Oh we go, we got it. You can't show you. 933 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: We just can't show nobody right now, it's too explosive. 934 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: Tom Colbert, who is one of the main case Breakers 935 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: former job was working for a hard copy so I 936 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,280 Speaker 1: mean he knows how to do a good tease hell people, 937 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: you know. But he was also a story broker, which 938 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: is somebody who like buys up compelling stories and like 939 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: sells them to people to make movies. He told the 940 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: story rights for Flyaway Home and The vale Um, So 941 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: so you know, like real hardcore grizzled crime solving ship 942 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: gum shoe sh yeah, and yeah. It just feels weird 943 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: that this is one that any news outlet, even if 944 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: it's just t d Z, has like seized on and 945 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: been like solved. I the reason I just started wheezing 946 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: and laughing as I'm falling along in your document that 947 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: you guys used, oh sorry to show behind the scenes 948 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: look at the show. This is all coming from the 949 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: top of my head. Blake. You're right, and I have 950 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: loose scraps I keep by my desk. Then this is 951 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: the document that I the one page document that I 952 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 1: made for the show and the case Breaker team had, 953 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: which I can't believe. I just said without laughing my 954 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: way through it. But at case Breaker team, Um, I'm like, oh, 955 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 1: it says eight following two followers on Twitter. You have 956 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: a screen grab of it, like this is probably taken 957 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: from a few weeks and now they have fourteen followers, 958 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: so yeah, we're in the same place. Yeah, it's trending. 959 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: It's trending. So so basically they're saying that the the 960 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: case Breakers, the the evidence that they're working with has 961 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: been debunked. So they're like, this is already built on 962 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 1: like a false premise because we're already using debunked like 963 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to connect dots that really aren't there. Yeah, 964 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: I mean unless you like, look at look at the 965 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: those forehead wrinkles. Man, I'm just saying, like those are 966 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: pretty well. They better come with that info that they 967 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: say they they're ready to decipher all the letters because 968 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: we would have to know his full name and only 969 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: we do. I mean, okay, how many people did the 970 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer kill exactly? That's information that they have to 971 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,919 Speaker 1: prepriet You have to ask them. They yeah, they're they're 972 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: holding back on they say, you'll never believe what we 973 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: found out about how many five claim he claimed to 974 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: have killed thirty seven five confirmed dead, but possibly twenty 975 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: to twenty eight. Okay, interesting, just another example of their 976 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: work on a famous story where people are you know, 977 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: very horny to identify historical figures. Colbert got interested in 978 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: the dB Cooper case. And yeah, so the dB Cooper 979 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: was a bank robber who hijacked a plane and then 980 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: jumped out of said plane after like you know, making 981 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: everybody turn around, I guess, or go into the cockpit. Anyways, 982 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: it's a people think that he probably didn't survive jumping 983 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: out of the plane, but you know, it's very mysterious. 984 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: They never found the body, and he thought he had 985 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: figured out that it was this guy, Robert rack Straw, 986 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: and so Colbert or Colbert approach. Rack Straw offered him 987 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty dollars to participate, and when he refused, Colbert threatened 988 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: to have him hounded forever, and then he started catfishing 989 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: ra Straw, who then in turn reverse catfished Colbert. And yeah, 990 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: it just seems like real, real, top level you know, 991 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: mature mature and you know, top level investigative ship going on, right, 992 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: someone who's clearly not just trying to get the thing 993 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 1: over the line. By any means necessary, true dedication to 994 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: the truth, unflinching, you know, rather like fuck your life 995 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: up if you don't admit your dB Cooper right. So this, Yeah, 996 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's the story of how the Zodiac Killer 997 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: was salved was identified. Well, I'm glad to know that 998 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: all the people who are talking about it, and now 999 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: I can finally um, actually, every fucking tweet I see now. Yeah, 1000 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: and you know j M, who is clearly into this, 1001 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: into the story of the Zodiac Killer, is saying like 1002 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: they're they could be right about who it is, but 1003 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: publishing articles like definitively claiming the Zodiac case has come 1004 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: to an end based on these people's work, it seems 1005 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: a little premature. Like I've read the story the headlines then, 1006 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: like I I've looked at the article and they were 1007 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: talking about the these case breakers, like they were a 1008 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: known quantity that like I should be familiar with. And 1009 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: the fact that they have fourteen followers fifteen now that 1010 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm following them is um wild. They do have their 1011 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: own logo, which is not nothing, right, Yeah, it's kind 1012 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: of huge. Yeah, it looks like Charles Barkley's like signature 1013 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: shoe logo out of thirty four in there. Yes, as 1014 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: always such a pleasure having you. Where can people find 1015 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: you and follow you? The pleasure is online and I 1016 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: can share it with you if you'd like. But I yeah, 1017 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I love being here. I always love doing this. I'm 1018 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: a huge fan of you guys. Um you can find 1019 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: me apt like Wexler on everything. Every Wednesday in Philadelphia, 1020 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I do a show at St. Stephen's Green if you're 1021 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: in Philly. And then I have an exclusive for you guys. 1022 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I have not announced this anywhere, but exclusive. Um, we 1023 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: have on November eighteenth, and char Elston Um recording my 1024 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: first one hour special so at Theater ninety one hour 1025 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: stand up special in November eighteen at EM So yeah, 1026 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: Verry have not didn't even announce it on my own 1027 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: goddamn podcast, Blake's Takes for God's Six. So yeah, but anyway, 1028 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: that's a that's coming in November November eight rank hm 1029 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: and uh, is there a tweet or some of the 1030 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, there's a 1031 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: tweet from a at Case Breaker team and it's tweets 1032 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: tweets from Laurie kill Martin at any Laurie sixteen and 1033 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: um she tweeted a picture of Kieren Coulkin's character and 1034 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Jerry from Secession holding one another, and Laurie just wrote, 1035 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: moving towards this stage of my life. It was very, 1036 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: very fun. But yeah, she's an incredible comedian. Writer. Miles 1037 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Rare can people find you? What is a tweet you've 1038 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram, Miles of Gray. Also the other 1039 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: show four twenty Day Fiance. Check us out of twitch 1040 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,439 Speaker 1: dot tv sash for twenty Day Fiance to zero with 1041 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Sophie Alexandra talking about ninety day. Some tweets that I like, Wow, 1042 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 1: let's see. First, one is from a Viagra You're in 1043 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: his d m S. Good for you, girl, He's easy. 1044 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Go get him slick love that's been on it. Another 1045 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 1: one is from at brow tweeting b r o W 1046 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: t W e A t e N tweeting caterpillar walks 1047 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: snake Okay what caterpillar grows wings snake? Okay? What scupid? 1048 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: And then one more from a listener DJ baby back 1049 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: joy at cr Underscore. B O r o N tweeted 1050 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: not Miles and Jack roasting me alive because showed all 1051 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: your Starbucks collectors mugs like just sitting on this shelf, 1052 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: no shade. I love the Star Wars based ones, but yeah, 1053 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: it's a real movement to start collector game. They kept 1054 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: going and going. I was, I was blown away. I'm 1055 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I have fully turned around on on this and I'm 1056 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: now in completely supportive of anybody's decision to collect those cups. There. 1057 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian 1058 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: uh couple tweets I've been enjoying. Jamie Loftus. Jamie Loftus 1059 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: helped tweeted, I'm in the phase of getting my ship 1060 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: together where I'm adding a second ingredient to pasta, which 1061 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: is a very specific phase we've all been to. Uh 1062 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and blank Peesh tweeted, why does spell check no McConaughey 1063 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:42,959 Speaker 1: but not fuck and I have never spelled Matthew McConaughey's 1064 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: last name correctly. It's now now the hey, how now 1065 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: g funk out of here with that? And if you 1066 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: want to add fun just put it in your one 1067 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: of your contacts. It knows interesting if you want all 1068 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, rather than duck or ducking. Quick tip 1069 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: for the people who constantly curse and then get mad 1070 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: at the auto correct because it's like it's like duck 1071 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: auto correct duck and then all caps. Fuck if you 1072 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 1: can you yeah, get your contact yeah fucking all right. Well, 1073 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeys were 1074 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: at the daily that you guys on Instagram. We have 1075 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: a Facebook fan page and a website, daily zeitgeis dot com, 1076 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: where he post our episodes in our foot notes where 1077 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about 1078 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we 1079 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: think your money enjoy. Miles. What song are we sending 1080 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 1: people to go check out? This is a track called 1081 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Story of a Girl. Sorry, huh, I was saying this 1082 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: is the story of a girl the home world. Uh No, 1083 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: this is the story of a song called Runway Talk 1084 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: and it's by Khalil Blue featuring mavby Dog. It's just 1085 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: a dope, you know, just wrapped from from the twenty 1086 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: one century, right, you know. I'm I'm I'm coming out 1087 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: of my golden era hip hop cave more and more 1088 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and just really ingesting as much like new rap as possible. 1089 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: And I just like again, just like yesterday's track Armor. 1090 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I really like this. The production on this and I 1091 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 1: just like the flow, I like the swag. I just 1092 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: like it also, and I think you will too if 1093 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: you like some little, you know, some some new, some 1094 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 1: genre breaking hip hop. So this is Runway Talk by 1095 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Khalil Blue. Al Right, well the Daily is That, guys, 1096 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: is a production of by Heart Radio. For more podcasts 1097 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 1098 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 1099 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this morning, 1100 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: but we are back this afternoon to tell you what 1101 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 1: is trending and we'll talk to you all that. Bye 1102 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: bye