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Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is.

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Speaker 1: This town needs an edema. The following feature has been

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Speaker 1: rated R. It is intended for mature audiences. Have you

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Speaker 1: been with a girl's wist? That's it? More? Get in

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Speaker 1: the last beeper, I can put my whole fist in

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Speaker 2: Looking for me?

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Speaker 1: But you have good dag and your cheap shoes. You

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Speaker 1: looking at LOLd. Don't put that lovely brechie Bobby, don't

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Speaker 1: put that on up heart in your gender direction.

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Speaker 2: We got Moon, I got that's famous stuff. Oh, celebrities

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Speaker 2: use that, radio announcers and everything.

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Speaker 1: I'll see that bars just like a tattoo gets under

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Speaker 1: your skin. Got Moon. I got what we're dealing with here.

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Speaker 2: Here's a lack of respect for the laws.

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Speaker 1: So apparently there is some soy boy. He calls himself,

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Speaker 1: I guess a leftist influencer named Bill Brooker, and he

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Speaker 1: put out his fativa list of what he calls trumpy

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Speaker 1: restaurants in Houston. In Houston, and they are common Bond Presley's.

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Speaker 1: Presley's is the one that puts is over in the heights.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that put the sides up on their

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Speaker 1: marquee that upsets the left so much. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a great day on Trump's inauguration. There's nothing to them.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty basic patriotic things, and they make people in

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Speaker 1: the heights so angry. White liberals are such sad, miserable sacks.

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Speaker 1: Federal American Grill who we've talked about, and taste of Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's the four. Let's see what he says on here.

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Speaker 1: It's in the middle of it's a TikTok video, but

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Speaker 1: he's giving a speech about how these people. He's got

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Speaker 1: Looks like a complete dweeb. But that's usually what these

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Speaker 1: and he wrote, white liberal women are human shaped black

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Speaker 1: holes of nurturing energy. Beginners start out with unsolicited child

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Speaker 1: rearing advice to conservative moms on social media. They later

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Speaker 1: advanced to stockpiling used dogs in five oh one c

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Speaker 1: their final form, they push open door policies indifferent to

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Speaker 1: And that is how America lost New York City. You know,

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Speaker 1: we tend to live in bubbles, all of us, in

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Speaker 1: and social media particularly, but even cable television to a

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Speaker 1: about Well, everybody's done that in the course of my life.

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Speaker 1: The top forty radio. Every market has a top forty

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Speaker 1: Chad Nakanishi, you put a proposed this week I saw

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Speaker 1: But that's a great story about Chad. Are you see

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Speaker 1: of the Michael Arry Show. We welcome to the program,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you man, Michael. How are you.

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Speaker 2: In fact, actually very few beers one now became blood brothers.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know you are the best stories, right Michael

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Speaker 1: Berry's show, singer, songwriter, legendary personality, friend of Willie Nelson

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Speaker 1: in every Texan Ray Willy Hubbard is our guest. It's

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Speaker 1: his birthday. I know, Willie thanks the world of view.

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming Leon Russell was kind of weaving in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we uh, you know he was John was. You know,

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Speaker 2: You know, Leon would sit in with everybody and we

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Speaker 1: You know. You know, I think my favorite Robert o'

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Speaker 1: you know, all these years later the Highwaymen recorded his song.

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Speaker 1: So it all made it, It all made it, okay.

430
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just you know, I say, Willie's picnic

431
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: was just an incredible you know, uh, you know, you know,

432
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty strange, but it was you know, there was

433
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: there wasn't any you know, we uh I'm playing. And

434
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: also you know, I remember when Willie the first time

435
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: played Caesar's Palace in Lake Tahoe. He called me, he said, hey, man,

436
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: you want to a couple play Caesar's Palace with me?

437
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: And I said yeah, And but Anya, they said, well,

438
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: they didn't have opening acts in the main room, so well,

439
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: I want you play in the lounge. So we set

440
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: up in the lounge and all these people were being

441
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: live to see Willie. Well will It is over on

442
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: the side of the stage sitting on an Applan guitar with me.

443
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: You know, he said, don't kill anybody. You know, they

444
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: could have just come in the lounge and seen Willie.

445
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Speaker 1: Right there right.

446
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: But you know it was you know, there there wasn't

447
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: any There wasn't a lot of ego involved with you know,

448
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: once you kind of became a member of the group.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've noticed with you, uh, perhaps more than

450
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: anybody else that I came in contract contact with through

451
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Speaker 1: the RCC days and through chasing my music across the state.

452
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Speaker 1: Is there's no ego? Is there is that intentional or

453
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Speaker 1: is that just kind of your personality? Did you make

454
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Speaker 1: a decision one day, Hey, I don't want to be

455
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Speaker 1: like that guy.

456
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a thing too it all of a sudden,

457
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: I think, keeping my gratitude higher than my expectations, that's

458
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Speaker 2: one thing. And then all of a sudden, really uh,

459
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Speaker 2: you know it's it's it's right. Of these songs they like,

460
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: say b and Austin, I'll send you write this song

461
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: and I'll say, he say, man, it's a great song.

462
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: I'll send you walk into a club and all of

463
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: a sudden, mcmurcury goes, here's a song I wrote, and

464
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: you go, oh, you know. So it keeps you humble,

465
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: you know, among all the songwriters. So you know, you

466
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: couldn't couldn't get a big ego, you know, because there's

467
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: always you know, Guy or Towns or Billy Joe, you know,

468
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: writing these incredible songs and U and one of the

469
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: one of the great things that happened comes up and says,

470
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Speaker 2: hey man, I like that little song. That was a

471
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Speaker 2: graphics you know. It wasn't an eagle thing. It was

472
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: a self esteem thing that hey man, you know I

473
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: got Kevin Welsh of.

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Speaker 1: One of my songs, you know, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah,

475
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: that makes sense. You mentioned Jerry Jeff Walker, and I

476
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: know that y'all had quite the association. What did it

477
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: do for you? In seventy three when he records Up

478
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: against the Wall read Nickmother, which of course you'd written.

479
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Speaker 2: Well, well, it gave me a middle name, you know,

480
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: I was Ray Hubbard up before that. But then Bob

481
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: Bloomingston on the album said, this only is by Ray

482
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: Wiley Hubbard, you know, so all of a sudden and

483
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: Jerry's regularly we wanted to take that off the record

484
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: because they said, well, if they hear this on the radio,

485
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: but we'll think that's Ray Waller Hubbert singing, and Jerry goes,

486
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't care leave it on there. So for one thing,

487
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: I got a middle name. Also, I was Ray Walley

488
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: Hubbert then and at the time it was now, and

489
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: that was the only thing I was known for, you know,

490
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: red neck mothers I do with these old honky talks

491
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: and I'd walk on stage and they go play red

492
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: neck mother and I played red neck mother and I go,

493
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: here's another and so yeah, it was kind of a

494
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: not an alvatroar, but it was the only thing I

495
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: was known for a while. And today you know, I

496
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: still do it, but it's fun. So I got a

497
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: you know, pretty strong arsenal, you know with drunken poet

498
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: snake form.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, alles you do, you have a very strong ersenal.

500
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Speaker 1: I've told the story many times over the years. Ray

501
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: Wilder Hobbert is our guest. By the way, of how

502
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: you helped me get Tony Joe White. He wouldn't return

503
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: our calls. And then he called you and said, who

504
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: is this guy, Michael Berry? And why does he want

505
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: me to come play his place? And what is it?

506
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: And you said, yes, yes, you must play his place.

507
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: And then I leaned against a wall and somebody comes

508
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: up and standing right over my shoulder, but hidden around

509
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: the wall so nobody see it. And you had driven

510
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: in to see him play. And I asked you why

511
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: he took your advice to heart like that, because that

512
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: was quite a leap of faith. And you told a

513
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: great story. Would you mind telling that again?

514
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, remind me of which story that was.

515
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: Well, he I guess. I guess you were down and

516
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: out and you needed some cash and he bought the

517
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: remainder of your studio sessions.

518
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, telling Joe just always.

519
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: He was one of those guys like Cherry Jiff and

520
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Billy Joe who really respected other songwriters, you know. And

521
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: so I remember I called him out. Thank you called me, Yeah,

522
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: I sure, I get telling Joe here and I said, well,

523
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: you know, and he wouldn't ask us. I called Tony.

524
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: Joe said, Tony, Joey says, place down there, and you

525
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: know around Houston, you know, And I said, you know,

526
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: he said, well, I don't know. Well then I said, no, man,

527
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: I think you'll dig it, you know, And so he said, okay,

528
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: I'll do it. Then, you know, Tony, Tony Joe was

529
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: just one of those great cats. I'll tell you a

530
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: great Tony Joe's story. So Tony Joe was playing my

531
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Print and Grew festival. So he shows up, and Tony

532
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: Joe was the first cat. We're just a guy and

533
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: of drummer, you know, before the white stripe, so the

534
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: black keys, you know, guitar and drums. So Tony Joe

535
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: shows up at my festival and he's with this guy

536
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: and you know, walking back me and I go, hey,

537
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: Tony Joe goes all good to be here. I said,

538
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: who's this? Said, isn't my drummer Fleetwood? And I go, really,

539
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: I said, how'd y'all meet? He said? They both started laughing.

540
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: He said, oh, I just I went to the institution

541
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: checked him out for the weekend. We just never been back.

542
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: I love the old great stories.

543
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that's so, but yeah, I'm telling you, Joe,

544
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, that was really a three old after that, Yeah,

545
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: he tough plays. I want to come down and open

546
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: for him. You know, I got to hang out you know.

547
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: Well it was it was very kind of you and

548
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: and and you and mother Hubbard were very kind to

549
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: us in landing us Uncle Lucius, your relationship to Kevin

550
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: who looks up to you, and and he's Carl and

551
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: and all these folks that looked up to you and

552
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: her uh and still do as as you know, the

553
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: godfather and the guy that could be trusted in, the

554
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: guy that would give him good advice.

555
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: And you always always said good things. And it opened

556
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot of doors for us. So a very happy

557
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: birthday to you, Ray Willy Hupper, thank you very much.

558
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: We just love an a door to you. Here's too

559
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: many many more.

560
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 2: My friend, Hey, and I think we're going to be

561
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: playing in Houston. I don't know where, but I think

562
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: it's around December fourth or fifth with Shane Smith. We're

563
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: voting for Shane Smith. So stay in tell with you man,

564
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: I'll put you on the guest list. Ye, I would

565
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 2: love to see you. I think it's look, I think

566
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: it's rund December fourth or one of those days.

567
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Sit in December fourth. Vermon Sensence four seven one three viewsic.

568
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Call December fourth.

569
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well come on, you'll give me a call.

570
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: We'll put you on the list, but like to hang

571
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: out with you.

572
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: We'll be there and we'll send our and we'll send

573
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: our folks out to support you. Thank you, brother.

574
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I want to take care man idea.

575
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: Man a good deal. Thank you and good night