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Speaker 1: for you to read it on Thursday. People underestimate the time.
Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting, so many of us we
Speaker 1: choose the worst times to have the best conversations. A
Speaker 1: lot of people in their relationships will choose the moment
Speaker 1: their partner walks through the door to have the most
Speaker 1: difficult conversations. Now, that person maybe just had a stressful
Speaker 1: journey home back from work, and you're thinking to yourself,
Speaker 1: so did I, Well, guess what. You're not in the
Speaker 1: right position either. Not only is the timing wrong for them,
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Speaker 1: I am so grateful to have you here. My name
Speaker 1: is Jay Shetty. Thank you for joining me for the
Speaker 1: next twenty to thirty minutes as we talk about the
Speaker 1: tell Them Method. Now, I promise you this method is
Speaker 1: going to transform your life. I believe it will change
Speaker 1: the way you work with your colleagues. It will change
Speaker 1: the way you talk to your parents, your partners, It
Speaker 1: will change everything about your life, because more often than not,
Speaker 1: we do the opposite. Instead of the tell them method,
Speaker 1: we practice the tell everyone but their method. Now, let
Speaker 1: me give you a quick overview as to what they
Speaker 1: tell them method is. If you don't want to go
Speaker 1: on a date with someone, tell them if you want
Speaker 1: to cancel plans tonight because you're exhausted. Tell them if
Speaker 1: something feels off to you and you don't want to
Speaker 1: see someone again. Tell them. If you're anxious about a
Speaker 1: project you're taking on at work and you're not sure
Speaker 1: what to do with your bo us. Tell them if
Speaker 1: you don't like to watch sports with your partner. Tell them.
Speaker 1: If you usually wait till the last minute to tell
Speaker 1: people you're not coming, don't do that, Just tell them.
Speaker 1: More often than not, we don't tell them. We don't
Speaker 1: tell people. We hold on to emotional information. We hold
Speaker 1: on to our feelings, We hold on to words, We
Speaker 1: hold on to energy that we're being compelled to share,
Speaker 1: to give, to pass on. But we hold back and
Speaker 1: we hold onto it. There's a famous Zen saying that says,
Speaker 1: letting go is hard, but holding on is harder. Just
Speaker 1: imagine yourself holding on to a piece of rope that's
Speaker 1: being dragged from your hand. If you're holding on tightly,
Speaker 1: gripping tighter and tighter and tighter, it's going to leave
Speaker 1: a burn in your hand. And so often our emotions
Speaker 1: that we want to share with others, that we want
Speaker 1: to exchange, that we want to set free, are the
Speaker 1: ones that we're holding onto so tightly. It's so important
Speaker 1: that we actually tell people how we feel. And this
Speaker 1: applies to both challenging and encouraging emotions. The other day,
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone and I said to them,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just going to tell you how
Speaker 1: I feel, and I opened my heart to them. I
Speaker 1: told them how much I appreciated them, how much I
Speaker 1: admired them, how much they meant to me. And I
Speaker 1: meant every word. And they were so shocked and taken
Speaker 1: aback because they were just surprised that someone would actually
Speaker 1: open up in that way and wear their heart and
Speaker 1: their sleeve. And I said to them, I like living
Speaker 1: that way because I'd rather say everything that matters to
Speaker 1: me and be seen as foolish, stupid, weak, then to
Speaker 1: hold it all back and miss out on an opportunity
Speaker 1: for a beautiful relationship. Because what am I really losing
Speaker 1: by sharing how I feel, I don't lose my dignity.
Speaker 1: I don't lose my self worth because I can only
Speaker 1: give that to myself. I don't lose my self esteem
Speaker 1: because I don't give the keys to that to someone
Speaker 1: else in my life. I don't lose anything. When we
Speaker 1: think that opening our heart in a positive way to
Speaker 1: someone else makes us the loser, it means we believe
Speaker 1: that they have the power over us, when actually I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that I opening up my heart
Speaker 1: to someone, telling them how I feel, telling them how
Speaker 1: much they mean to me, and protecting my future self.
Speaker 1: I'm protecting my future self because hey, guess what, if
Speaker 1: they react positively, there's a beautiful relationship here. If they
Speaker 1: reject it, then I still know in the future that
Speaker 1: I did everything within my capacity. I did everything I
Speaker 1: could possibly think of. Now. Sharing positive or vulnerable emotions
Speaker 1: is hard, but sharing a negative feeling towards someone is
Speaker 1: even harder. Telling someone you don't want to go out
Speaker 1: on a second date, telling your family that you don't
Speaker 1: want to come over for the holidays, telling a friend
Speaker 1: that you no longer want to hang out them. These
Speaker 1: can be much more challenging conversations, and they rarely are
Speaker 1: going to go how we want them to go, and
Speaker 1: therefore we avoid them. We avoid tough conversations because we
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the consequences of what comes
Speaker 1: from them. But the reason why we should tell people
Speaker 1: how we feel is because if we don't tell them,
Speaker 1: we'll probably tell someone else. If you don't tell someone
Speaker 1: how you feel, you'll probably tell someone else how you
Speaker 1: feel about them. We gossip about that person to another person,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they find out, even in the most indirective ways.
Speaker 1: When we gossip or take energy from a relationship into
Speaker 1: another conversation, what we're doing is diluting two relationships. You're
Speaker 1: diluting the relationship you have with the person you're scared
Speaker 1: to tell because now you don't have a deep relationship,
Speaker 1: and you're diluting the relationship with the person you are
Speaker 1: telling because you're boiling down the quality and depth of
Speaker 1: your relationship to be about gossip, to be about discrediting
Speaker 1: someone else, to be about bitterness. Instead of building a
Speaker 1: relationship on positive emotions, we're actually falsely bonding over negative emotions.
Speaker 1: So let's say I want to tell someone that I
Speaker 1: don't think that what they're expecting of me is in
Speaker 1: line with my boundaries. Now, instead of telling them my
Speaker 1: boundaries my expectations, I start talking about them to someone
Speaker 1: else and saying, can you believe that person? They're always
Speaker 1: just you know, they're always just like disrespecting my boundaries.
Speaker 1: They're always disrespecting me. I don't just don't know what
Speaker 1: goes through their head. Now. If I'm saying it in
Speaker 1: order to figure out how to have a conversation with them,
Speaker 1: that's healthy. But if I'm saying it just to get
Speaker 1: it out there, then I'm not actually getting anywhere with it.
Speaker 1: What happens is the next time I see that person,
Speaker 1: I now get more confirmation bias. Confirmation biases where I
Speaker 1: get more information to prove how I felt. I then
Speaker 1: go back to my other friend and talk about it
Speaker 1: all over again, and all of a sudden, I still
Speaker 1: have this person in my life who disrespects my boundaries,
Speaker 1: And now I have someone else in my life who
Speaker 1: I could be building a healthy exchange with, but we
Speaker 1: only talk about bitterness, pain and negativity. So instead of
Speaker 1: telling someone else, tell them it completely sets you free.
Speaker 1: You let go of the baggage of holding onto it.
Speaker 1: You now no longer holding on to the multiple conversations
Speaker 1: you'll have about this scenario, which means you've made space
Speaker 1: for other things. It also allows for you to get
Speaker 1: a reason. And this is the difference. I think so
Speaker 1: often when we want to share something hard or harsh
Speaker 1: or negative with each other, we don't realize that it
Speaker 1: can be done in a beautiful and powerful way.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's so important to recognize that it's about how you
Speaker 1: say something, not what you say. We think it's all
Speaker 1: about what we say, when really it's about what we
Speaker 1: are meaning to say, how we say it, tension with
Speaker 1: which we share it. And often I find a question
Speaker 1: is far better than an accusation. If you want to
Speaker 1: tell someone how you feel, it's better to tell them
Speaker 1: with a question as a way to check. So to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know whatever I say that, I don't like it
Speaker 1: when you talk about me like that in front of
Speaker 1: this other person. I wanted to ask you why you
Speaker 1: still continue to do it? Where does it come from? Now?
Speaker 1: This allows you to check in a way that doesn't
Speaker 1: put the other person on the defensive, hopefully doesn't make
Speaker 1: them feel like they have to be critical, And now
Speaker 1: you're actually asking them a question where they get to
Speaker 1: explain themselves. I think we underestimate the value of how
Speaker 1: something said. We have forgotten how to communicate in a
Speaker 1: non violent, non confrontational way. It's interesting, right we think
Speaker 1: that if we're right, no matter what the other person's
Speaker 1: reason is, we're going to confront them, and so because
Speaker 1: we're trying to avoid confrontation, we avoid communication. But actually,
Speaker 1: healthy communication can help us avoid confrontation for no reason. Often,
Speaker 1: if I think someone's behaving with me in a certain way,
Speaker 1: I'll check in with them and say, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I noticed this. I just wanted to know if you
Speaker 1: notice it or where does it come from. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, now we're on the same page, We're on
Speaker 1: the same level. I'm not calling that person out, I'm
Speaker 1: not making them look bad. I'm not you assuming that
Speaker 1: they're acting a certain way, and I get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to get an explanation. I'm not asking for a defense,
Speaker 1: I'm asking for their insight. And I think this is
Speaker 1: so important because so often we've watched so many courtroom
Speaker 1: dramas where all we know how to do is put
Speaker 1: someone in their place, and then that person kind of
Speaker 1: has to defend themselves and stand up for themselves. And
Speaker 1: now we're not getting anywhere because now we're doing the
Speaker 1: same thing back. It's so important to tell people through
Speaker 1: a question, tell people in a non confrontational, non violent way.
Speaker 1: It's also brave to tell people how we feel, because
Speaker 1: when we don't, we feel self righteous, but we automatically
Speaker 1: assume that that person is unaware or wrong. I found
Speaker 1: that when I tell people how they feel, they get
Speaker 1: a chance to tell me how they feel, and often
Speaker 1: I realize we're far far closer than we think. So
Speaker 1: I'll give another example. The other day, I was pitching
Speaker 1: an idea. The idea got rejected and I didn't really
Speaker 1: get any feedback, so I said to the team, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I didn't get any feedback that I felt was valuable
Speaker 1: or insightful. We've got feedback, but the feedback felt pretty vanilla.
Speaker 1: It felt pretty you know, standard feedback. And it was
Speaker 1: hard for me to say, hey, I don't think we
Speaker 1: got any insightful or reflective feedback, but I thought it
Speaker 1: was healthy to say that because I was acknowledging we
Speaker 1: did get feedback, but it wasn't to the degree that
Speaker 1: would help me. And I want to learn and I
Speaker 1: want to grow. All of a sudden, I got some
Speaker 1: amazing feedback, and actually, when I listened to it and
Speaker 1: took accountability, I could totally understand why the idea got rejected.
Speaker 1: I could actually reflect and comprehend why we didn't get
Speaker 1: a yes. And when I communicated that and communicated the
Speaker 1: heart of the pitch, it actually led to our much
Speaker 1: more powerful positive conversation. Again, it was a hard conversation
Speaker 1: for me to have because I didn't want to look desperate.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look needy. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: look like I was forcing things over. And what I
Speaker 1: realized is I could explain all of that right. Sometimes
Speaker 1: we think, well, I don't want someone to think I'm XYZ,
Speaker 1: and so I'm not going to say it at all,
Speaker 1: rather than saying to them, hey, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be XYZ, but this is how I'm feeling. Let's figure
Speaker 1: this out. Know is how it makes such a difference.
Speaker 1: We have to tell people why we think what we think,
Speaker 1: not just what we think. We have to explain to
Speaker 1: people why we're feeling the way we're feeling, not just
Speaker 1: what we're feeling. So often we just tell people our emotions.
Speaker 1: We don't explain our emotions, and when we explain our emotions,
Speaker 1: we give them an opportunity to explain this when we
Speaker 1: tell people how we feel, and more importantly, as I'm
Speaker 1: saying here, we tell people how we feel and why
Speaker 1: we feel that way, and we've recognized that we can
Speaker 1: take some accountability for it. It gives us a sense of closure.
Speaker 1: We've realized that we've done everything within our power, we've
Speaker 1: done everything within our means, we've taken control. We've focused
Speaker 1: on everything we can control, and we don't have to
Speaker 1: be distracted by what we can't control, and that creates
Speaker 1: such a powerful sense of self respect. We get an
Speaker 1: understanding that we have the ability to really stand up
Speaker 1: for ourselves, we have the ability to really recognize how
Speaker 1: we're feeling. And I think this hits very closely to
Speaker 1: why I partnered up with match, and what I really
Speaker 1: found was I wanted to create a space where people
Speaker 1: could connect based on their values. And this was really
Speaker 1: really important to me because I feel that everything I'm
Speaker 1: saying here is because we don't realize that our core
Speaker 1: values have such a big impact in terms of long
Speaker 1: term success. If you ignore core values, you're thinking in
Speaker 1: the next five months. If you take on core values,
Speaker 1: you're living in the next five years. And for anyone
Speaker 1: who's interested and invested in building a long term, long lasting,
Speaker 1: powerful relationship, this mindset is huge. Ninety three percent of
Speaker 1: match members say that shared core values are a crucial
Speaker 1: indicator of relationship success. Now, another reason why it's important
Speaker 1: to tell people is because of what's actually happening inside
Speaker 1: of us. According to a researcher named Nelson, three things
Speaker 1: happen when an emotion is experienced. The first is we
Speaker 1: develop an emotional vibration. The second is we feel the
Speaker 1: emotion and any thoughts or physical sensations associated with it.
Speaker 1: This is where the mind and bodies interconnectedness come into play.
Speaker 1: And number three, we move on from the emotion by
Speaker 1: processing it. But here's the interesting thing. According to Nelson,
Speaker 1: when the second or third step mentioned above gets interrupted,
Speaker 1: the energy of the emotion becomes trapped in the body.
Speaker 1: As a result, you might experience muscle tension, pain, or
Speaker 1: other ailments. Express your emotions to yourself, explain them to others.
Speaker 1: Express your emotions to others. Explain them to others so
Speaker 1: that they have the opportunity to understand them. When we
Speaker 1: do that, we release it from being stored in the body.
Speaker 1: Nelson says, the phrase trapped emotions usually means that you
Speaker 1: want to say something, but you're blocking it from yourself,
Speaker 1: and then that repressed negative emotional energy comes out as resentment,
Speaker 1: being passive, aggressive, It can come out as an overreaction.
Speaker 1: It can come out as depression and stress. Of course,
Speaker 1: and mind body therapist Kelly Vincent compares trapped emotions to
Speaker 1: carrying around a large backpack. It weighs us down, it
Speaker 1: impacts our mood, and it drains our energy. So now
Speaker 1: that you're not saying how you feel to someone else,
Speaker 1: you're now carrying this backpack of emotions into every interaction
Speaker 1: you go to. And what we're really saying is I
Speaker 1: don't want to put in the effort to unpack this backpack. Right.
Speaker 1: Think about it when you've gone on vacation and you
Speaker 1: don't want to unpack a suitcase. So now you'll pack
Speaker 1: it again for the next trip, and you're now carrying
Speaker 1: everything from the first trip for the second trip as well.
Speaker 1: So what you've done is you've just made it harder
Speaker 1: and heavier for yourself. You've just made it more and
Speaker 1: more challenging for yourself when it doesn't need to be.
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important to tell them now. I
Speaker 1: was reading an amazing medically reviewed article by Jennifer Littner
Speaker 1: on Healthline and it was talking about how trapped emotions
Speaker 1: and extreme cases can actually create trauma. She talks about how,
Speaker 1: according to a twenty fifteen survey of almost sixty nine
Speaker 1: thousand adults across six continents, over seventy percent of respondents
Speaker 1: reported exposure to a traumatic event, while thirty point five
Speaker 1: percent were exposed to four or more. Right, this could
Speaker 1: be a breakup or before, she says, it could be
Speaker 1: a major illness, it could be losing your job. And
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is that when we don't share
Speaker 1: or express that emotion on how we feel, that can
Speaker 1: end up being stored in the body. And if you've
Speaker 1: not read this brilliant book called The Body Keeps the Score,
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. And when we're carrying around these
Speaker 1: emotions and we don't tell people how we feel, we
Speaker 1: don't tell people how we feel about them, we don't
Speaker 1: tell people how they've made us feel, we end up
Speaker 1: blaming ourselves. We end up blaming them rather than engaging
Speaker 1: with them. We can end up taking that stress out
Speaker 1: on loved ones and so a lot of negative energy
Speaker 1: gets trapped in the body when it's not released in
Speaker 1: that way. And so I want to ask you, when's
Speaker 1: the last time you've been feeling a headache? Because there's
Speaker 1: something on your mind and your heart that you've been
Speaker 1: wanting to say. And here's what I'd recommend you do.
Speaker 1: Tell them, because if you don't tell them, you'll spiral.
Speaker 1: If you don't tell them, you will regret it later.
Speaker 1: And the reason why we're not telling them is we
Speaker 1: don't think about this. I want to help you come
Speaker 1: up with a five step formula for how to understand
Speaker 1: how to tell them. The first thing is they're not
Speaker 1: in front of you. What would you say if there
Speaker 1: were no edits right, if you didn't have to filter it,
Speaker 1: if you said it with all the anger, if you
Speaker 1: expressed it with all the pain, all the tension, what
Speaker 1: would it sound like? Write it out, audio it out,
Speaker 1: say it out loud? How would you express your pain, stress,
Speaker 1: tension towards someone without thinking about how they digest it,
Speaker 1: let it out without them there? I ideally would say,
Speaker 1: write this down if you can journal it, because the
Speaker 1: next step is focused on what you actually are trying
Speaker 1: to say. As you now edit this, you're now extracting
Speaker 1: the explanation from the expression. It's not that you're taking
Speaker 1: the emotion out of it, but you're taking the accusatory,
Speaker 1: the blaming, the judgment out of it so that you
Speaker 1: can truly explain how you feel over expressing what you
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Speaker 1: is really important is figure out the best time to
Speaker 1: say it. People underestimate the time. I think it's so interesting.
Speaker 1: So many of us we choose the worst times to
Speaker 1: have the best conversations. A lot of people in their
Speaker 1: relationships will choose the moment their partner walks through the
Speaker 1: door to have the most difficult conversations. Now that person
Speaker 1: maybe just had a stressful journey home back from work
Speaker 1: and you're thinking to yourself, so did I, Well, guess what.
Speaker 1: You're not in the right position either. Not only is
Speaker 1: the timing wrong for them, it's the wrong timing for you.
Speaker 1: The next thing is you don't know how heavy their
Speaker 1: day was, so they're already carrying a load, and now
Speaker 1: they don't have the ability to carry your load. On
Speaker 1: top of it, you've now reduced the probability that they
Speaker 1: have the conscientiousness and the compassion in that moment to
Speaker 1: be present with you. Did they have any capacity? You're
Speaker 1: speaking to them at a time where their emotional capacity
Speaker 1: is so reduced. And it's really funny because we think,
Speaker 1: in this moment, well, they should get it, they should
Speaker 1: understand it. It's it's so important to me. They don't
Speaker 1: have any other time when actually you could have made
Speaker 1: it a lot easier for yourself to bring it up
Speaker 1: at a time that they could digest it. The other
Speaker 1: important thing, not just time, is to figure out the
Speaker 1: best place to say something. I think sometimes again, we
Speaker 1: choose the worst place to have the best conversations. We
Speaker 1: do it over dinner when someone's just trying to eat.
Speaker 1: We do it passive aggressively when someone's friends or family
Speaker 1: is around them. We do it when the person's trying
Speaker 1: to disconnect from everything while watching a TV show, rather
Speaker 1: than setting a time in a place. We take up
Speaker 1: any opportunity because we think it's so important, but anything
Speaker 1: that's truly important. If you think about in the workplace,
Speaker 1: you set in a appointment, you set a meeting to
Speaker 1: have important conversations. We've got to do that even with
Speaker 1: the people we love. Right, And the biggest one, which
Speaker 1: I think we underestimate is that we're usually quite attached
Speaker 1: to the result, and really what we need to do
Speaker 1: is be detached from the result. Now, how do we
Speaker 1: do that. We want them to change. We want them
Speaker 1: to know how we feel. We want them to feel
Speaker 1: bad about it. We want them to get the point
Speaker 1: that maybe all these expectations we have, well, the truth
Speaker 1: is all of our expectations are not helping us. They're
Speaker 1: actually setting us up for failure. Instead of sharing all
Speaker 1: of this in a way that we hope that they go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, I'm going to change completely,
Speaker 1: which is our artificial hope, we could share it and
Speaker 1: actually to see where they're coming from. We could actually
Speaker 1: try and understand what their blocks are. We're actually try
Speaker 1: and comprehend what their challenges are because guess what, that's
Speaker 1: going to give us a lot more information, a lot
Speaker 1: more ability to grow, a lot more insight into what
Speaker 1: can be solved. Now, this is going back to the
Speaker 1: simplicity of tell them method. Let's look at that example.
Speaker 1: If you don't want to go on a date with
Speaker 1: someone and you go out just because you feel guilty,
Speaker 1: Now they think there's a chance they're being strong along.
Speaker 1: Now you're feeling worse on day four that you keep
Speaker 1: stringing them along. And now on day eight you've got
Speaker 1: to tell them anyway, right, you're not going to let
Speaker 1: it go all the way to them expecting you're going
Speaker 1: to propose to them, and well maybe you might. And
Speaker 1: then now you've got to do even the harder job,
Speaker 1: because if you just told them in the first place,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have all that later on pain. Some of
Speaker 1: you wait till the last minute to tell someone you're
Speaker 1: not coming to the party. Guess what, that lets them
Speaker 1: down more than if you told them a month in
Speaker 1: advance and gave a good explanation. Tell them, tell them,
Speaker 1: tell them, because guess what, you don't then have to spiral.
Speaker 1: You don't have to think about that emotion that exchange
Speaker 1: for the next three weeks. You can actually create space
Speaker 1: for the life that you want to build. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for listening. This helps you. I hope you
Speaker 1: pass it on to a friend and remember I'm forever
Speaker 1: in your corner and always rooting for you. And next
Speaker 1: time you're struggling to express how you feel, just tell them.
Speaker 1: I promise you it will make a huge difference and
Speaker 1: save you so much mental space, so much mental time,
Speaker 1: and so much mental energy. Thank you. Hey everyone, If
Speaker 1: you love that conversation, go and check out my episode
Speaker 1: with the world's leading therapist Lourie Gottlieb, where she answers
Speaker 1: the biggest questions that people ask in therapy when it
Speaker 1: comes to love, relationships, heartbreak, and dating. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out that space right now, you won't want
Speaker 1: to miss this conversation.
Speaker 2: If it's a romantic relationship, hold hands. It's really hard
Speaker 2: to argue. It actually calms your nervous systems. Just hold
Speaker 2: hands as you're having the conversation. It's so lovely.