00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I'm already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. I'm so happy you're here. What's going on with my life today? At day? Well, look, I decided I would finally throw out some leftovers in the fridge that I had kind of been saying I would eat, promising myself I would eat, and never did. So I just took a bag and threw all of those away. And so I'm feeling in control of my life, maybe for the first time in months. And you've probably already noticed that confidence in my voice, and hopefully that'll carry through the episode and maybe bleed into your own life. We all need to feel that little bit of control. And with all that said, who cares? I want to get to our guest. I think our guest is so funny, she's so wonderful. Please welcome io a deboririe Io. Welcome to. 00:01:44 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts, Butridgard, thank you for having me on your podcast. 00:01:48 Speaker 4: I said, no gifts. 00:01:49 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have you here. You know you and I. 00:01:53 Speaker 4: There was it needs to be said. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: There's a good chunk of our lives. When we were running into each other on in our neighborhood, constantly, constantly, NonStop to I was saying you. I mean, technically, I mean my boyfriend was on tour at the time, but I was seeing you more than my boyfriend. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: You are the one. 00:02:14 Speaker 2: Person in my life that I was seeing on maybe a weekly basis by purely happens. 00:02:20 Speaker 4: It happened, fleet accidents, dance, happenstance. 00:02:23 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, happen chance, which could be every thing. 00:02:26 Speaker 3: Which could be the name of our rom com. That's sort of like more about a m about friendship. 00:02:33 Speaker 2: Right, happened chance? You know, two people who are just running into each other on occasion, and then the movie is just nice little chats here and there. It's a kind of an after what is that show or that movie? After Midnight, after Sunset? 00:02:49 Speaker 4: Before three? 00:02:51 Speaker 2: The three movies? Which what's the first one? 00:02:54 Speaker 1: Is it? 00:02:54 Speaker 4: Before sun Sunrise? 00:02:57 Speaker 2: That's our movie, except for you know, we won't really get into any deep topics like the two leads of that film. We'll just have neighborly chats. I haven't. I'm finally going to just come out on this podcast. This is the one where I say, look, I've never seen a movie, and hopefully people can just accept that. 00:03:22 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's good. 00:03:23 Speaker 3: In your first movie will be our movie. 00:03:27 Speaker 2: It'll be the premiere of our movie. 00:03:29 Speaker 4: I think that's beautiful, and. 00:03:31 Speaker 2: I feel like it's My reaction is going to be like, you know when the early movie with the train coming towards the theater goers and everyone kind of freaked out. My reaction will be similar. I feel like I'm going to have a complete breakdown in the theater and you will have to carry the film franchise on your own. I'll be recast. 00:03:54 Speaker 4: I'm willing to take on that burden. 00:03:57 Speaker 3: But you will be like a real, real strong creative presence during the process. You know, in the following movies, which my hope is they end up becoming something monstrous on a Marvel level. 00:04:13 Speaker 2: It's a universe. It's a universe a DC level, you know, where everything's kind of taken very seriously, kind of grim. It'll get more and more grim as it goes on. 00:04:23 Speaker 3: The movies are so darkly color corrected, you can't even see what's going on. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: Zack Snyder will step in and just do his thing. 00:04:33 Speaker 4: He's going to step in. Somebody will be fired and he will step in. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: Well, I'll be fired, and you know I'm got I kind of fancy myself as Zack Snyder type. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: And that's how I fancy you as well. 00:04:43 Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it. So for him to step in, why not? Yeah, I owe my earbudget fell out of my ear and it feels good. 00:04:55 Speaker 4: Very luxurious. I will say, can I get something off my I want to hear it. Well. I I ordered food. 00:05:04 Speaker 3: I thought it would come before the podcast recorded, and so at some point there might be like a knock on the door or so. 00:05:12 Speaker 4: I just wanted to get that all right, chest because I really tried. That's okay, and I did it well. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: And I think people can hear the confidence in your voice and the shocking amount. 00:05:24 Speaker 2: Of doubt in line, just kind of the nervousness and the fear of approaching. 00:05:29 Speaker 3: I could not believe that my life has gotten to this point where I try to time out an order and it. 00:05:35 Speaker 4: Goes so poorly as to at some point check check offs, checkofs, door desk. 00:05:42 Speaker 2: If you introduced the door the first three minutes of the podcast. 00:05:47 Speaker 3: Delivered, the door will be knocked and the food will be delivered exactly. 00:05:50 Speaker 2: Well, let's hear about this food you've ordered. What did you order? 00:05:53 Speaker 4: Okay, well I ordered a salad? 00:05:55 Speaker 2: Oh nicely? 00:05:56 Speaker 4: Did I even say the business say it? 00:05:58 Speaker 2: I don't care. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: Well, I gotta do you give me something because I said your business? 00:06:04 Speaker 4: And I know there's people who work there who listen to podcasts. 00:06:06 Speaker 3: Wait, so that is it's up and they look the type. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: Oh, we'll get into that. 00:06:13 Speaker 4: Who is it. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: Who's the salad coming from? 00:06:15 Speaker 4: The salad's coming from Kismet? 00:06:17 Speaker 2: Oh, Kismet better give us both free chicken and salad for the rest of our lives. 00:06:23 Speaker 4: Here we go. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: If nothing else is twenty percent off coupon. I mean they make a good chicken, they make a good salad, they make a fried potato. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, the potatoes are really good. 00:06:35 Speaker 2: Kismet Rotissary. Uh, send us some free food. 00:06:39 Speaker 3: Well, and you notice, And I think there is something to be said. And I'm not saying that. We're saying it because we are very pro Kismet rotissory and the deals and steals that they'll be giving us in the future. But I think there is something to be said that we're specifying Kismet rotissary. 00:06:53 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, this is not Kismet original. This is Kismet rotisseriy. Just see a little rotisserie shack in Los Angeles. So if you're ever here and you want to, you know, splurge on some chicken, that's a place to go. Are you getting chicken on your salad? Are your vegetarian? What's your situation? 00:07:12 Speaker 4: I am getting chicken on my salad. 00:07:14 Speaker 3: I used to be a vegetarian and then I started eating meat again. 00:07:18 Speaker 2: What turned you. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: Well, the official. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: Answer is I was acting in this show called Dickinson where we wore corsets and on set we would be in corsets and you would get laced up before lunch and then you'd have to eat lunch. 00:07:37 Speaker 4: Loosely. So I would. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: I was just like, I can't be a vegetarian. I can't be eating vegetables while I wings up in of course it all day. 00:07:43 Speaker 4: I need like bone marrow. 00:07:45 Speaker 3: You're going to pass away if I don't have a ribbi steak in the middle of the day. 00:07:51 Speaker 4: So that's kind of the official answer. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: So you're just that's recent, then that is a bit recent. Okay, what's the unofficial answer is. 00:07:59 Speaker 4: That one day I was like, I think I want to have fried chicken again. 00:08:03 Speaker 2: I don't blame you. 00:08:04 Speaker 4: I was like, I thought to miss how this tastes and smell and me eating like. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: A king oyster mushroomed about it's not hitting the same right right. 00:08:13 Speaker 2: I mean, I could say plenty of great things about a mushroom, but sometimes I just need a little chicken. I need a little you know, carne asada, this sort of thing. I wonder. I've never been vegetarian. I don't know that i'll ever be. Most of the food I eat I feel like as good vegetarian options, but I'm very lazy, and I feel like being a vegetarian, at least getting into it requires some level of you know, sicktuitiveness that I don't have. 00:08:42 Speaker 3: Well, the first time I was a vegetarian, I was in vegetarian high school, and I did it. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: For ethical sort of reasons. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: I was like, well, the corporations aren't going to stop corporating, so I'll just stop. I'll just eat less meat. But Both of my parents are immigrants from meat heavy cultures, right, Caribbean food, African food. Oh delicious, incredible, incredible, And we've got meat at the heart of we got meat in the stock, we got we got fish, we got all that stuff. And so I just was like, I can't, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop. And then during every holiday my family would be like and so you're not eating meat? 00:09:24 Speaker 4: Every cute like mocking me. 00:09:27 Speaker 3: And then at my graduation party there was and it's really sad, but there were hot dogs being cooked, and I was like, this is actually what I'm gonna If I'm gonna break, I'm gonna go on a meat break. It has to be the worst possible meat. So I eat a hot dog. 00:09:39 Speaker 4: You went for a hot dog, liver hot dog. 00:09:43 Speaker 2: I feel like, as a parent, that's a really hard situation if your kid decides to become a vegetarian, because it's just like, now, what we have to make you. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: A special eight Well, I was seventeen and so my mom was like, oh, you can cook your own dinner, and I was like. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: How what we her? 00:10:01 Speaker 4: She's over it making it? 00:10:04 Speaker 2: Did you just start making yourself oatmeal? 00:10:06 Speaker 4: I know, I actually don't like eating. 00:10:13 Speaker 2: This is in the next three hours. This podcast is going to be three hours and I'm going to just have a full dive into your food history. 00:10:20 Speaker 4: Well, I've got the name of the episode for you. I actually don't like oatmeal. 00:10:24 Speaker 3: What, Yeah, I really don't like Is it a texture thing? It's texture smell smell. 00:10:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:10:32 Speaker 3: I find it really like something is very off putting about it. 00:10:37 Speaker 2: What oatmeal barely has a smell. It's like, wait, is the food here? Yeah, go get your food? Is rudely interrupting to get her chicken salad. We're going with her. I'm going to describe what's happening. We're going through her what appears to be a fifty bedroom mansion. 00:10:56 Speaker 4: Thank you, Hi, I'd have a good day. 00:10:59 Speaker 2: The food has arrived. Oh and the door dash person has left. They were wearing a pink sweatshirt and they were on their way to a next their next delivery. So hopefully the next delivery is not someone who's committed to a podcast like our io. Fortunately, a salad, I think is a good option when you're on a podcast because you don't have to worry about it getting cold. If she had ordered a you know, a curry or a hot soup. We would just have to shut down the podcast or listen to Io slurp for the next hour. And I'm not going to do that today. I don't have the patience or the time. I'm getting a very spinny view of Io's apartment. I'm extremely dizzy. I looks like she's in a music video. 00:11:45 Speaker 4: Is that I chose to be silent? 00:11:47 Speaker 2: That you deserved narration for that, and I was happy to give it to you, your partner in film, right, partner in walking, partner in film. I no longer live in your neighborhood, so we don't run into each other anymore. 00:12:01 Speaker 3: I know when you told me you were moving the most recent time we saw each other, it did sort of, and you know your boyfriend was there. 00:12:11 Speaker 4: It did? It did? I felt like something was still in from me. 00:12:14 Speaker 2: I will well you did? You left in tears? I have to say. Jim did say to me it's either Io or me. Make the choice, and it wasn't easy, but I finally just said, look, I've been in this relationship this long. I'm not I can't leave Jim for seeing Io around the neighborhood. That might change in the future. 00:12:37 Speaker 4: This is interesting. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: It was my boyfriend said, it's either Bridge or me. I said, well, Hostelavista, Hostel. 00:12:44 Speaker 4: A Pasta, you are more committed seeing you around. I don't know, I don't know how to make that any more clear. 00:12:55 Speaker 2: Iowe just in general, how have you been? I want to know. 00:12:59 Speaker 4: I think I've been okay to good, which I think that works for me. That's pretty good for right now. Yeah. 00:13:05 Speaker 3: I did talk about this with a friend recently or I was like, huh that there's just been a year of trauma and we're all still kind of chugging along. 00:13:16 Speaker 2: Well, I think that it's kind of just a you know, Wiley coyote off the cliff moment where he still thinks he's on the ground, or you know, at some point we're all just going to have a complete mental collapse. 00:13:28 Speaker 4: I think, uh huh. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: I don't see any possibility of a future where this last year of trauma doesn't have an effect on me long term. 00:13:40 Speaker 4: Well, my solution was we introduced siesta. 00:13:43 Speaker 2: Oh, not a bad idea. 00:13:46 Speaker 3: I just feel like the idea of policy change or any sort of structural or like, you know, any sort of change like that. I think it simply won't work, right, And I think something like siesta or every town has like a town. 00:14:02 Speaker 4: Square yoga session. I think something like that it will help a little. 00:14:09 Speaker 2: Plenty of countries have proven that a siesta works. You know, people, nobody has to complain about a siesta, A nice little relaxing time. Let's just throw it in there. 00:14:18 Speaker 4: Why not? 00:14:18 Speaker 2: I mean, the last year has just been total chaos. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: Well, I think people are tired, so let's give them naps in the middle of the day. 00:14:27 Speaker 2: Are you a big napper? 00:14:29 Speaker 4: I am really good at napping, and I think I can't. 00:14:32 Speaker 3: Do it too often because I'm too good at it, if that makes sense. 00:14:38 Speaker 2: You don't want to show off. 00:14:40 Speaker 4: I don't want to. 00:14:40 Speaker 3: Show off, and I don't want to lose myself to lose myself to naps. 00:14:45 Speaker 2: Right, But you know. 00:14:49 Speaker 4: Sort of that. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: What time are you napping? When you do nap? 00:14:54 Speaker 4: Okay? 00:14:55 Speaker 3: I think maybe this is also a thing because I haven't been in like an office in a while. 00:14:59 Speaker 4: But you know, like normally when you're when. 00:15:01 Speaker 3: You have like a job, and you get that sort of like tiredness like around like one two, right, and then you're like, I'll have a coffee and I'll be uplifted by my coworkers, but I don't have any. 00:15:12 Speaker 4: Coworkers step lift me. I just have myself and my couch, which is very good for dabbs. So I sit on the couch and I dap on the couch. 00:15:20 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:15:20 Speaker 2: I love a couch nap. I love falling asleep on the couch. I mean, I don't think the sleep quality is as good, but it feels way better. 00:15:27 Speaker 3: It feels a thalsand times better. There is also something where I feel like I'm an adult and like this is my house and I could sleep on the couch like in my mother's home. I'm called a dang slob. I'm slovenly for sleeping on. 00:15:41 Speaker 2: The cop I didn't realize this podcast was just going to turn into a full on attack on your mom. 00:15:47 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have some things to say to her, don't I. 00:15:50 Speaker 2: Yes, she's a big fan of the show, so she's going to be disappointed. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: But she might mean. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: I think that's why I'm acting out. 00:15:59 Speaker 2: There's a chance she skips your episode. I feel like she's had enough of you. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: We got some things to work out for her. 00:16:07 Speaker 2: What else are you doing with your time besides snapping on the couch like a slob. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, my mother is the angel investor in this podcast. 00:16:16 Speaker 2: I see she is dumping money into this podcast. She's paying for my wardrobe. 00:16:23 Speaker 3: My mother is doing the ads for the podcast. 00:16:27 Speaker 2: Oh that's my goal now is to get Io's mom to record one ad on this podcast, and. 00:16:32 Speaker 4: We'll be right back after this break. 00:16:34 Speaker 2: Hi. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: So I wanted to say, how is everybody doing? 00:16:39 Speaker 2: Hey? 00:16:40 Speaker 4: Did you have anything to eat? And make sure you're taking a vitamin. 00:16:44 Speaker 2: Oh God, bless I'm in love with her already, but just feels like you're avoiding again. The real important question is day. Yeah, I need, I need its accountable. 00:17:00 Speaker 4: I wake up. 00:17:01 Speaker 3: I still try to keep my planner, you know, even though my days aren't as full as they used to be. I just will try to keep my planner and I write things. 00:17:09 Speaker 4: I look at my planner and it says things like work out clean. 00:17:13 Speaker 3: It says things like this is my planner and I can show you for example, we like this. 00:17:18 Speaker 4: It says work out. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and did you do it? Did you work out? 00:17:23 Speaker 5: No? 00:17:24 Speaker 3: I leave my bed and I watched tiktoks for two hours, and then I said, what do I need to clean. Okay, I need to clean my bedroom. And then I scrubbed my sink. 00:17:37 Speaker 4: Not bad while listening to my podcast. Not bad, but not the assignment. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: Not the assignment. But shoot for the moon sort of situation. 00:17:46 Speaker 3: And you will sort of and you will sort of you will shoot for the moon and then we'll have a gun hole in it. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: Shoot for the moon, and you will scrub your sink, discover your sink. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: Discover your sink will real bright and shiny. Then maybe I then maybe I do. I try to do some writing. I try to do some reading. Forgot how to read, so learning how to. 00:18:11 Speaker 4: Do that again. 00:18:11 Speaker 2: Reading has gotten harder and harder for me in the last like six months. Every day seems harder. 00:18:17 Speaker 3: I found one book that I like that I really like. It is a book by George Saunders. 00:18:23 Speaker 2: Oh, an excellent author. Which one are you reading. 00:18:26 Speaker 4: It's called A Swim in the Pond in the Rain? Oh? 00:18:29 Speaker 2: Wait, is this about? It's kind of writing advice. 00:18:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's like he takes you through these Russian short stories and then he talks about the short stories and he does these sort of exercises. And I've always had real trouble with Russian literature, Like I, even when I loved to read, like in high school, I've always just had I just. 00:18:55 Speaker 4: Found Russian literature so hard and so boring. 00:18:58 Speaker 3: And would always feel like kind of stupid because I was like, I like, this is too many words, right, it's dense, this is just just simply too dnse and it's thank you. And kind of breaking them down into short stories has been nice, and he does. He just makes them kind of engaging and sometimes will be like, actually the story is boring, and if you had a hard time reading it, you might be right, So why do we think it's boring? 00:19:30 Speaker 4: And like that is like is fun? 00:19:32 Speaker 3: Like it feels like sure, like the English teacher, like the English student teacher, who's like, all right, the teacher's. 00:19:39 Speaker 4: Gone, let's talk about it. I'm closer in age to you, even though you still think of me as an adult. I'm actually three years older than you. Let's chat. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Will you tell say the title of it again? Because I feel like listeners, this happens anytime a book gets mentioned on this there's a million questions. What's the title. Let's make it very clear. It's George Saunders and the title is what again. 00:20:01 Speaker 3: A swim in a pond in the rain? All right, swim in a pond in the rain. I'll say this. This is the first time that I've gotten it right. And you know the reason I got it right. 00:20:13 Speaker 4: It's right in front of me. Every time I try to remember the name of this book. 00:20:18 Speaker 3: Oh it's on, I want to walk in the dark and the funnel, I jump a leap in the woods over a lake, and always get it wrong. 00:20:28 Speaker 4: It's a swim in a pond in the rain. 00:20:31 Speaker 2: That's a beautiful title. 00:20:32 Speaker 3: I know, it's almost too beautiful. And listen, that's my note. I'm not I'm just freaking bought the book. 00:20:37 Speaker 4: I'm reading it. That's not my problem. It is. 00:20:40 Speaker 3: I wonder if there is a review where somebody's like, I mean, the title's crazy. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: I've gone really bad at remembering not only titles of books I'm reading, but authors. But I think it's because I read them on kindles and so kindles. I don't have multiple kindles. 00:20:55 Speaker 4: My thousands of kindles. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: I have as many kindles as most people have books. No, but I don't you know, you have a kindle and you don't see the title or the author. Every time you open the book. Right, So it's all. 00:21:06 Speaker 4: Just kind of get that top right, top left, reminder, right. 00:21:09 Speaker 2: I need that. I need that back in my. 00:21:11 Speaker 4: Life, hardcover. It might be there was. 00:21:15 Speaker 2: A period where I was moving around, you know. No, I moved to New York and I moved back to LA and I was like, I can't have this many books in my life. Until I'm settled, I can't have books. So now that I'm in a house, maybe I maybe I start buying one book at a time and get back to that. 00:21:30 Speaker 3: I've got tens of books that are stuck in New York in a storage unit because they were too heavy to move across the country. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: Right. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: But then, you know, post my move, I've been meeting more people, more writers, more movers and shakers, more comedians who got a book, dal episode out of a book. 00:21:53 Speaker 2: And I have more. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: But they're my friends. 00:21:56 Speaker 3: But I have now more books in my house than I did before I moved. Even I was like, I'm like, I can't I can't move now. I guess I'm stuck in this apartment that I don't trunk. 00:22:07 Speaker 4: The void. 00:22:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've are in. 00:22:10 Speaker 4: Spinny Spinny Void. 00:22:12 Speaker 2: For the listener, I was in kind of just a white void right now. She's also wearing a white sweatshirt and a white hat. So it's like it's kind of like the Willy Wonka when they shrink everyone into tiny little people? Do you remember that? Have you seen Willy Wonka? 00:22:28 Speaker 4: I have seen Wily Wonka? I don't. 00:22:30 Speaker 2: There's a moment when they have like a like you've seen the seventies one? Yeah, don't you remember they have like a laser ray that shrinks everyone down into tiny little people. Huh yoh, yeah, I'm telling you this happens. 00:22:45 Speaker 4: This is crazy. 00:22:48 Speaker 2: It's crazy a laser It sounds like you haven't seen a movie. 00:22:53 Speaker 4: It sounds like I've seen a movie. 00:22:55 Speaker 2: I haven't seen this movie. 00:22:57 Speaker 4: I shrunk the kids? 00:22:58 Speaker 2: That does happened in that? Do they use a laser beam in that one as well to shrink the kid? Yeah? I feel like we have too many laser beams shrinking kids in movies. 00:23:08 Speaker 4: It's so true. It's so true, and it needs to be said. Do you think it's all the kids? 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Uh? 00:23:14 Speaker 4: In Willy Wonka? 00:23:14 Speaker 2: I think it's just Mike TV and maybe his mom. Well you said the kids, Well. 00:23:19 Speaker 3: Look okay, so wait a minute, No, let's talk about it. 00:23:26 Speaker 2: So you're turning it around on me. 00:23:27 Speaker 3: Now we almost gas lit, which is the scariest thing you could do to somebody on a podcast. 00:23:33 Speaker 2: Well, that's what this podcast is built on. I send the guest off just thinking, what is my view of the world? Is reality what I thought it was? That's my goal with you right now? Using Willy Wonka. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. 00:23:45 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Mike TV gets shrunken by a laser beam or something, or it's supposed to be the technology that sent Okay, now, I actually this is what happens. The laser beam, I think is supposed to send the chocolate it into a TV, and Mike TV gets sent into a TV, which by nature shrinks him into a tiny little person. 00:24:08 Speaker 4: Does that sound right? You? Really? I don't know. You take this one around the world. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: The Willy Wonka fans, and there are thousands of them listening to this podcast, are shrieking right now. They're furious at both of our ignorance. 00:24:24 Speaker 4: Turns into a blue bearry No, no, no, no, no. 00:24:27 Speaker 2: Not Ruka, Violet Beauregard. 00:24:30 Speaker 3: Pilot Bulregard turns into a blueberry. 00:24:33 Speaker 2: Yes, Baruka. What happens to Varuka. 00:24:37 Speaker 4: Goes down like a big hole. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Does she with the golden goose, She like falls down the shaft or whatever, shrieking. Augustu's glup falls into the river. 00:24:49 Speaker 4: Yes, my TV goes into the TV. 00:24:53 Speaker 2: Comes into the TV. 00:24:54 Speaker 4: I think you are right. I think you are right. 00:24:56 Speaker 2: It's nice to feel right about this sort of thing. 00:25:00 Speaker 4: What you started wrong. 00:25:01 Speaker 2: I will say, Well, that's how you know, that's how we learn. We start from a place of being totally incorrect, and then we go on a podcast and the guest kind of looks into it, and then we learn that's Augustus Loop. 00:25:15 Speaker 4: I think has the hardest song. He has a song like it goes the hardest. 00:25:19 Speaker 2: I don't remember it. 00:25:21 Speaker 3: Augustus Gloop, Augustus Gloop, great big greedy Minkham poop. 00:25:26 Speaker 4: Lyrics like that anymore, you know what I mean. No, that's hateful. 00:25:30 Speaker 3: It's it's just I think it's really good lyric writing. It's on the level of their they're creepy and their Kookie, the serious and. 00:25:39 Speaker 4: Spooky Adams family. They're all together. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: OOKI oh, I didn't realize that there was a third like, I think that's. 00:25:46 Speaker 3: What I think, that's what the lyric is there's something that's there's lyrics in that where I'm like, these are crazy lyrics. 00:25:55 Speaker 4: God, God bless them. 00:25:56 Speaker 2: That's a lyric you have to unpack. 00:25:58 Speaker 3: And and then and then their house is a museum where people come to see them. 00:26:03 Speaker 4: There really are a Scoreum you know what I mean. It's like you don't get lyrics like that anymore. 00:26:10 Speaker 2: You certainly don't. Those are you know, those are old folk songs. 00:26:13 Speaker 4: Let's bring them back. 00:26:14 Speaker 2: Let's bring them back in our movie, in our movie, our our musical friend, romantic comedy that. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: Is a little bit art house, but will ultimately dive, you know, evolve into a DC usual. 00:26:31 Speaker 2: The same way that whatever that thing was called evolved. It's not the Avengers, it's Batman and Superman. I don't know, I don't want, we can't. We cannot circle back to Zack Snyder. I have something more important to talk about with you. 00:26:47 Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me. 00:26:48 Speaker 2: Look, you agreed to be on this podcast a few weeks ago, and I was so excited. I thought, here's my chance to catch up with IOH. We haven't been able to run into these walks where neither of us knows if the other one is stalking the other This will be my chance to just have a nice chat with her, and I was looking forward to it. I was having, you know, just daydreaming about a little zoom with a friend. And then the other night I opened my front door and lo and behold, there's a mysterious black tube lying on my porch. So many thoughts race through my mind. You know, is it a pipe bomb? Is it a some sort of weapon? I don't know what's lying here, right, so I pick it up again. 00:27:36 Speaker 4: Never said a pipe bomb, Just like heads up your story. 00:27:40 Speaker 2: That remains to be seen, that remains to be seen. I'm just going to confront you right now. Is this a gift for me? I? Yeah, okay, so the podcast is called I said no gifts. And so now we're sitting here with a problem. 00:27:59 Speaker 4: Well, this is the thing that I was talking about, sort of about being gas lit. I was just saying earlier. I don't know if you remember that. I don't. 00:28:07 Speaker 2: I actually don't remember that, and I feel like you're making things up again. 00:28:11 Speaker 3: Okay, well, definitely you You did see something about your memory being bad, so I just will confirm that. 00:28:16 Speaker 4: Oh interesting, you also not remember that part. 00:28:19 Speaker 2: I don't remember, I don't have a single memory of that ever happening. 00:28:25 Speaker 4: What is a memory that you have? Because now I'm just concerned. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you what I'm currently looking at. I don't know. 00:28:31 Speaker 4: No, that's not a memory. That's something that you're seeing right now. That's not a memory. 00:28:35 Speaker 2: Everything up until this moment, I feel like I just keep I'm alive. I'm alive. 00:28:42 Speaker 4: Okay, I've decided not to be worried anymore. Actually, so I'm over it if you are well. 00:28:48 Speaker 2: All that aside, I mean, do you want me to open this mysterious black tube? 00:28:52 Speaker 3: I mean, I would like you to me that you're interested in it. 00:28:56 Speaker 2: You know, I'm happy to I've got I've got a few minutes, and I'm I could open this. It's as I said, it's about foot and a half long. I didn't say that, but now I'm saying it. 00:29:07 Speaker 4: People remember something you remember, not say my memory. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: Is coming back to me. This is a memento style. 00:29:12 Speaker 4: Thank God for that. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: It's good to be here in the safety of a friend. You know, I'm gonna this looks like it's hard to open. It's got tape. Let's open it near the mic. This this might be the hardest gift yet to open because you. 00:29:32 Speaker 4: Don't even have some sort of like utility. Yeah, I didn't. 00:29:37 Speaker 2: That's my failing as a host. This could take hours. Oh, got the end of the tape. 00:29:45 Speaker 4: Here you go. It's actually wrapped, so I did not. I did not expect it to be wrapped this way at all. Oh my god, I'm so anxious. 00:29:54 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a chance that snake pops out of here. 00:29:57 Speaker 3: Uh. 00:29:59 Speaker 2: There's no te telling what to do in this too. I actually have no idea how. 00:30:05 Speaker 4: To open this. You've sent me a puzzle. 00:30:10 Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep on wrapping this tape. I'm fine with that, I can. Oh, something smells the tape horrible. Is there some sort of dead you know, creature. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: It's alf that you were going to explain me. 00:30:32 Speaker 4: It's funny to me that it's stinky. It's so hard. 00:30:36 Speaker 2: This is absolutely I don't understand. There's like a book at the top. This is by far the longest unpacking of a gift on this show yet. 00:30:48 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh my god, pinched. 00:30:55 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. 00:30:56 Speaker 4: Now we're Oh, look at this, this. 00:30:58 Speaker 1: Is like what is. 00:31:01 Speaker 3: The black tube? Revealed that it's not like a tube of the cat. There's a tube inside the tube, and by lifting up what we thought was the cap, a whole tube came out from inside the tube. If that's not a good explanation. And the tube that came with it was ribbed. 00:31:18 Speaker 2: Also, yes, very odd. This is Indiana Jones style. Okay, so there's I've opened. There's like a an envelope in here. Yeah, okay, should I open this first? 00:31:29 Speaker 4: Yeah? I got There's something. 00:31:29 Speaker 2: Else in the bottom I haven't looked at I have heted. 00:31:32 Speaker 4: Get that yet? 00:31:32 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so I'm gonna open this envelope. Well, here it is from Iota Bridgers. What this says? And Alwa says, this is exactly what you wanted. I am glad it took us over a year to get here. Wishing you and your family all the warmth this holiday season has to offer. Have a wonderful Christmas and a new year filled with peace and joy made the true spirit of the season find you and fill your heart with joy. Wishing you and your loved ones a warm and one dus Christmas. What did you did? You hire a robot army to type this for. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: And the option to include a message and they gave a sample message, so I I will combined my message and the sample message, and I won't say which is which? 00:32:21 Speaker 2: Impossible to tell. Okay, now there's something else that I'm reaching for. This is almost Indiana Jones level, because now there's some sort of scroll here or something well that I'm gonna open. This is like on a fabric. I don't want to damage it. This is the most mysterious gift I've ever received. 00:32:41 Speaker 4: Well, that's an honor. This tape. 00:32:43 Speaker 2: This, I mean, whoever is running this company that you've sent this from has gone too far. 00:32:49 Speaker 4: They've made it and they must be stopped. 00:32:52 Speaker 2: They must be stopped. This podcast will be the end of them. Let's see here. The tape is too much for my poor little arms. Why didn't I bring a scissor to the podcast? I might have to go get one. Should I use my teeth? 00:33:06 Speaker 1: No? 00:33:07 Speaker 2: No, I just think. 00:33:08 Speaker 4: I've given them. Given the time we live in, Oh maybe I can. A year ago, I would have said, absolutely, use you to go for it. 00:33:16 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I mean, I mean the listeners. 00:33:20 Speaker 4: Nice you. 00:33:21 Speaker 2: I don't have anything. I'm in my office and. 00:33:23 Speaker 4: Oh I thought you were in the kitchen. 00:33:25 Speaker 2: No, I mean there's a little kitchenette, but there's I don't use it. 00:33:30 Speaker 4: I'm going to use my teeth. 00:33:31 Speaker 2: I don't care. 00:33:32 Speaker 4: That's fine. You can tell everybody use. 00:33:36 Speaker 2: Scissors, rodentsk Okay, here we go. I've gotten through the tape, I've. 00:33:40 Speaker 4: Gotten the so nervous, I've never been to whatever smelling. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: What is this? This is a painting on a scroll? 00:33:55 Speaker 2: What is who is this? 00:33:57 Speaker 4: It's me as a child? 00:33:59 Speaker 2: This is you? This is adorable. You're a little business one. This painting of you looks like you're about forty six. Yes, is true to life? 00:34:13 Speaker 3: And I could Yes, it is, And I can find the picture and send you the original picture. 00:34:19 Speaker 4: This is so sweet. It is an oil of me. 00:34:25 Speaker 2: How old are you in the picture? 00:34:27 Speaker 4: I'm about seven or eight? 00:34:29 Speaker 3: And we had a school assignment to dress up as a historical figure. 00:34:35 Speaker 4: You could pick any historical figure, and I picked Martin Luther King Junior. 00:34:39 Speaker 3: Oh, and so I wore glasses in a suit. 00:34:45 Speaker 2: The suit looks I mean, obviously this is a painting, so it may not be as true to life as I know, but the suit looks like it's about eight times your size. 00:34:52 Speaker 3: It is my father's suit jacket, and I will say I was an underweight child and he was an overweight man. 00:35:02 Speaker 2: Did you wear his pants? 00:35:04 Speaker 4: I wore my. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: Own pants, but it's his suit jacket, his shirt and his tie. 00:35:09 Speaker 2: Wait, tell me again, how old you were in this? 00:35:11 Speaker 4: Seven or eight? 00:35:13 Speaker 3: I do look as I think the direct quote is almost forty seven? 00:35:17 Speaker 4: Is that the quote? 00:35:18 Speaker 2: You look like a forty seven year old who's running like a company that's probably going to go out of business. 00:35:23 Speaker 4: I was very tired. 00:35:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look very tired, and just like, why am I here? 00:35:27 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:35:28 Speaker 2: Now, wait, who took the original photo? Did they have you? Like? 00:35:31 Speaker 4: Maybe my teacher at the time, And so that's how we got here. I guess. Can I tell you the journey? 00:35:40 Speaker 2: I want to know it. 00:35:41 Speaker 3: So my desktop is very messy, and I'm talking about like hundreds of screenshots just in various moments of my life and files and pictures, and not all of them. I haven't renamed all of them. And so I had a picture of you, a picture of me, a picture of you that I screenshot from your Instagram. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: Okay, and I guess it just got lost in the in the fracas. Is that what that's called? Well? There was a fractice that it got lost in it. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: And I realized by the time that I had submitted this photo that I had submitted a picture of myself as a young child instead of this picture of you holding a gift from your from your podcast as an oil painting. And then by the time that I basically was able to make an edit, I thought, no, actually. 00:36:45 Speaker 4: This is really funny. 00:36:46 Speaker 2: This was divine intervention. 00:36:48 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:36:49 Speaker 3: Yes, there is a god and he's given you your your memory back, and he's also made this happen. 00:36:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need any more pictures of myself, but a picture of eight year old I, oh, I'm in her deance suit. It's a very casual MLK because your tie is kind of a loose. 00:37:08 Speaker 4: It's very loose. 00:37:08 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean no element of this, uh, it just I would not say historical figure in any way. 00:37:17 Speaker 4: No. 00:37:18 Speaker 3: Also, like wearing glasses, which again Harley jun I don't think, yeah, famously. 00:37:26 Speaker 4: Is not where glasses. 00:37:28 Speaker 2: Also, the glasses in this picture, I don't know, they look like they don't have Uh what is this part of the arm of the glass. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you get to make edits to the photo. And when the artists first drew them. The glasses were even crazier. Really, yeah, they even they like one was square and one was round, And I was like, I can both of these please maybe be. 00:37:52 Speaker 4: The same shape even, And so we got closer. 00:37:55 Speaker 2: Wait, so the company that you used, like you send them a picture and then the artist you kind of and they match. 00:38:01 Speaker 4: You with an artist who makes an oil painting. 00:38:03 Speaker 2: And then you give notes. 00:38:04 Speaker 4: You can give notes, that's incredible. You can pick background color, you can you can do a lot of stuff. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: How long is the process? 00:38:13 Speaker 4: Like three weeks? 00:38:14 Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. It's odd to me because it feels like whoever painted it like is obviously a decent painter, I mean, at least better than someone who would paint glasses of one circle one square. Well, it feels like a real rudimentary mistake. 00:38:30 Speaker 3: In my initial note, I did think I said something also that was like, you know, like have fun something. 00:38:39 Speaker 4: And I did. Also I asked for more. 00:38:41 Speaker 3: I was like, if you want to make the background like the city where you're from, like I really invite you to do that, And that wasn't That offer wasn't taken up obviously. 00:38:50 Speaker 2: Well for privacy reasons, I'm sure. 00:38:52 Speaker 4: Oh, Okay, here's the picture also, that was the reference image I found it. 00:38:56 Speaker 2: Oh, are you going to send it to me? 00:38:57 Speaker 4: I'm going to send it to you in the chat. 00:39:00 Speaker 2: Can we when this, eventually, this episode comes out, can we put it on the Instagram? 00:39:05 Speaker 4: As absolutely? 00:39:06 Speaker 2: People, this photo's Oh so this is sort of this is a far different thing than what the painting ended up in. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: He really is crazy and I wanted the hands, you know, I wanted, but you know, he made his own artistic choices, right, it is what it is. 00:39:29 Speaker 2: But he well, he may not be able to paint. You know. One of these photos, your arms are kind of at an angle, and maybe he hasn't mastered that part of painting yet as well. 00:39:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a very specific pose. 00:39:41 Speaker 2: But in these photos, you do not look like a middle aged woman. You look like a cute little girl child. Yeah, and your your even your suit coat looks kind of appropriately sized in the painting. It it's clear that it's your father's jacket. So that's an interesting the artist had that insight kind of exaggerate the suit and give you some nice broad shoulders. 00:40:04 Speaker 3: Uh huh, I mean my neck really small and sort of Yeah, but anyway, that's what I got you. 00:40:11 Speaker 2: No, in this other photo, I'm seeing like a white wig somebody's wearing. Who do you recall who? That was? 00:40:16 Speaker 3: My friend whose name is liamn. She was my best friend at the time. Then the next year she moved to the Cape. Oh, her family and he would play video games online with each other. Oh, and then that sort of and then that sort of stopped. 00:40:32 Speaker 2: And what was she dressed? 00:40:33 Speaker 4: As she was dressed, I think as Albert Einstein. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: Albert Einstein. Okay, these miss Jefferson. When you get a white wig on, you can be about sixty percent of people from a history book. 00:40:44 Speaker 3: You can be Albert Einstein, or you can be Tomas Jefferson. I don't make the rules. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: You can be any sort of wizard whatever you like. Well, have you ordered a painting like this before for yourself? 00:40:55 Speaker 3: This was my first time, and I felt sort of moved to have that be, you know, lost to you. 00:41:04 Speaker 2: I guess I would say toe in the water for you. I feel like now you're going to become addicted to it. 00:41:10 Speaker 4: It is a really funny present. 00:41:12 Speaker 2: It's an extremely funny present. 00:41:15 Speaker 4: Cattivating oil painting of you. 00:41:18 Speaker 2: As a child. I've got to get this frame. It's wonderful. 00:41:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had options to get a frame, but it would have taken longer. 00:41:25 Speaker 2: Right, the same artists would have had to build the frame, and then you would have had to know. 00:41:30 Speaker 3: Notes giving process, and we all know how well he responds to notes. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: So you two are no longer on speaking terms creative differences. 00:41:39 Speaker 4: He was my best friend after you. This is incredible. 00:41:44 Speaker 2: What should I do with it? Should I put it in my office? Should I hang in my home? 00:41:49 Speaker 3: I think, however you feel comfortable, you know, whatever comfortable with Well, look I think it's put it in your bedroom or whatever. 00:41:58 Speaker 4: That's fine with me. That's why with me. So wherever you want to. 00:42:03 Speaker 2: Put it, Yeah, I need when someone gives you a photo of themselves, I feel like you need their permission where to hang in your home? Because you know, you come over for one of my outrageous parties that I'm so famous for holding, and then suddenly you know your painting is hanging in the bathroom. Things get just a little uncomfortable. 00:42:20 Speaker 3: People have questions, for sure, I think, don't put it in the bathroom, okay, unless then your bathroom becomes a space where you hang jokes. And I've been in the bathroom like that before. I have, and it was a fun and nice bathroom. But you know, I think, as long as it isn't like rolled up in a closet, because I will be coming over to. 00:42:43 Speaker 2: Your house, I'm going to get it framed. I've gotten I've finally gained the strength in the last like literally a week to put things in frames and hang them. It was a big step for me. 00:42:54 Speaker 4: It is a huge step. 00:42:55 Speaker 3: And then you you're like, well, now my house is officially a home. And I also can't move because it took so much effort saying this after framing it, and I mean including the effort that I took to frame it. 00:43:07 Speaker 2: Right, So once that's hung up, I'm just I guess I'm here permanently, and what can you say about that? 00:43:15 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, if you have other you know, gag gifts, the jobs or friends in the office above the fireplace, if you have a door, a door, a closet door for coach, you can put it inside the closet door for codes. 00:43:39 Speaker 2: To hang a picture in a closet that that feels like a real insult. 00:43:45 Speaker 3: I actually had a poster that I hung in the closet but it was it wasn't it was like. 00:43:49 Speaker 4: It gave me joy. It was almost the poster. 00:43:51 Speaker 3: The poster was a gift my friend gave me for my birthday. That was a poster that she made that was a photo of Michael Painia and it said the hardest working man in shopis. 00:44:06 Speaker 2: That's great height he might. 00:44:07 Speaker 3: Be because we really were like, wait to see the hardest working man in shopiz. And that was a gift that she gave me one for my birthday. And I was like, this is so touching. Every time I open my closet, I'll remember. 00:44:19 Speaker 2: Are you a big gift giving person? 00:44:22 Speaker 4: I do like the gift gifts? Yeah? 00:44:24 Speaker 2: Do you have any memorable gifts you can think of that you've given? 00:44:27 Speaker 4: Hm. 00:44:29 Speaker 3: I got my mom was recently somebody to come and clean the house. 00:44:37 Speaker 2: Oh that's an incredible gift because I like. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: You hate cleaning the house, and so I got you, said buddy to do this for you. 00:44:46 Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. I mean I think even for someone who doesn't mind cleaning the house, it's just a nice Yeah. 00:44:52 Speaker 3: And I got an hour of that time be to help organize stuff. 00:44:58 Speaker 2: Beautiful. That's very thoughtful considering how cruel. Your mother's been to you. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so all the pieces are on the table. 00:45:10 Speaker 4: Let's play chess. All the pieces are out. 00:45:14 Speaker 2: Oh that's a great I need to put that in my repertoire put sending somebody to clean someone's house. Also, when somebody is hired to clean a house, they just do a better job. 00:45:24 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they will always do a better job than you ever could. 00:45:28 Speaker 2: Right, Look, we got to play a game, Richard. 00:45:33 Speaker 4: I told you that the pieces are out. The pieces are out. 00:45:37 Speaker 2: It's time to put I think today we haven't played this game in a while. It's called gift or a curse or actually I want to give you. I feel like I should give the guests the option. That's nice, only nice enough. We can play a game called gift or a Curse or a game called gift Master. 00:45:52 Speaker 3: I obviously give Master has such a evocative title. 00:45:58 Speaker 4: Right but as you said, we and yeah, I'm including myself, haven't played for a person a while. 00:46:06 Speaker 2: So let's like, okay, gift he a curse. I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:46:10 Speaker 4: Seven. 00:46:11 Speaker 2: Okay. While I'm doing this, I have to do some calculating to get deep pieces for the game. You can promote something, you can recommend something. You can you know, smear an anime, you can apologize to your mom, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. Okay, Hi, it's Bridger. I'm sorry to interrupt the podcast right now. This is a little unusual, but look, this is the time of the show. When the guest gets to promote something, recommend something. I try to give them as much free reign as possible. And I did that with Io. And what Io chose to do was sing the entire Adams Family theme song, which was beautiful. Her voice sounded wonderful. That said, it's a copyright issue. It's a legal issue. If we release the podcast with her singing the Adams Family, people are gonna sue me into oblivion. I can't deal with that streng us right now. So we're cutting it out. And you know, it's just lost a history, big deal. 00:47:05 Speaker 3: Uh. 00:47:06 Speaker 2: And while you're here, you know, why don't I tell you to go review this podcast. I can promote something, I'll recommend something. I said, no gifts, there you go, I go buy some merch on the internet. You can do that. These are all things that I'm doing now. I'm in control of this little segment and it's very exciting. It's exhilarating to be the recommender, the promoter here. All that said, it's time to get back to the podcast. And here we go. I'm cutting, I've powered through. What do you mean, I've got the game pieces. 00:47:38 Speaker 4: I mean it's the best lyric yet. 00:47:42 Speaker 2: This is going to be a rights clearance issue. 00:47:45 Speaker 3: I don't even know if you can post that's fine. 00:47:50 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't be sued by the Adams estate. My trouble. 00:47:57 Speaker 4: They love all their money to lawyers. 00:48:03 Speaker 2: This is how gift you a curse works. I'm going to name three things you're gonna tell me if there are a gift to a curse and why. Now, the one thing you have to be very careful with here is that there are correct answers. You know, so you can lose this game most of but I mean not most people lose. Let's just play the game. I don't want to scare you too much. 00:48:26 Speaker 3: You interrupted me in song, and I'm most emotionally open, frankly to. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: Then tell me the opportunity for me to lose as just. 00:48:36 Speaker 2: Well, dry your tears and get ready to play. First up, gift you a curse and you have to tell me why. This is from a listener named Nella. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: Really quickly. Do you get half points? 00:48:51 Speaker 2: You don't get half points? What are you talking about? 00:48:53 Speaker 4: If you get? 00:48:54 Speaker 3: If you get, maybe you get the answer if it is a gift a curse? 00:48:58 Speaker 4: Right when you get the reason wrong? 00:49:01 Speaker 2: No, I'll support you emotionally, but I'm not giving you the points. 00:49:04 Speaker 3: Oh my god, don't sound my emotional support. Let's listen to Nella. 00:49:09 Speaker 2: Nella wants to know gift or a curse? Quotes in email signatures gift a curse. 00:49:16 Speaker 4: That's a curse. 00:49:17 Speaker 2: Why that's a curse? 00:49:18 Speaker 3: Because I the email is already such an emotional labor, so rarely is an email a gift. I want to keep the email short. I want to keep the email sweet. You're telling me I have to read a line of poetry. There's thought and I clicked more as it's a dang line. 00:49:36 Speaker 4: From the poem. Curse alright, inside joke, even worse. 00:49:42 Speaker 2: Curse, I owe, you're off to a horrible start. Quote in email signatures I think are absolutely a gift. Look would I ever in a million years use one? 00:49:57 Speaker 4: No? 00:49:58 Speaker 2: But I love to see a little quote in some horrible font, a song, lyric, a poem. You know, I think it's very sweet and a very earnest thing that most people in my life do not do. But when I see that, I think somebody is not has not It's it's almost old fashioned at this point. Yes, and so to me and to the world. The objective truth here is they are a gift. Okay, so you've you know, you've started by just totally falling on your face. That's okay, Let's go to number two. This is another listener suggestion. Someone named Graham has suggested real estate apps gift or a curse. You know your Zillow's, your red Fins, your I don't have another to name. 00:50:53 Speaker 4: This is tricky because I can see both sides of the coin. Right. 00:50:57 Speaker 3: There's the ease and streamlined nature of the real estate app that can make real estate easy for those who are not well versed in either the state or the reality of how the estate is doing. 00:51:14 Speaker 2: Right. 00:51:15 Speaker 3: However, there is such a charm right to walking by a house and seeing a sign with a person's face on it, smiling, arms folded, saying here, I am safe, secure, here's my number. 00:51:30 Speaker 4: Call me. Let's go over this with each other. 00:51:35 Speaker 3: And because of that, that intimacy, I am going to say, the apps are a cursed Tell me I'm wrong. 00:51:45 Speaker 4: I owe. 00:51:46 Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you you're wrong. I can't believe what's happening here. You are just as shameful shameful performance. 00:51:55 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 00:51:57 Speaker 5: As a gift. This is the They're very fun to scroll. Last night I was scrolling. I'm not looking to buy a house, but I was looking just around. I found a forty million dollar house somewhere in Silver. There's no take backs. You can you can chat, you can learn, but you're not getting the point this. 00:52:16 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's brutal. 00:52:19 Speaker 2: I love to look at a real estate app. 00:52:21 Speaker 4: Yes, it's fun though. 00:52:24 Speaker 2: Okay, well then it's a gift. Learn your lesson. You're still zero zero. I mean, here's the next one. Let's just give it a shot. I don't. I mean, I don't have high hopes for you. But this is not a listener's suggestion. This is from my own little brain. Gift your a curse, eg, gift your a curse. Eros the food eros are you familiar? 00:52:48 Speaker 4: I'm familiar. 00:52:49 Speaker 3: I lived in New York when I was in school. I would get one when I was done with my classes late at night on the rush. Get a little white sauce, brown sauce. It'd be a hint of red and they'd be like, are you sure, and I'd be like yeah, and I'd be like, too hot. But I'm happy lettuce tomato a sort of meats. As a former vegetarian, I must say again, I ow, we. 00:53:18 Speaker 2: Are coming together on this one. I'm so happy to hear. 00:53:23 Speaker 4: I think Euros are one. 00:53:25 Speaker 2: Of our best sandwiches. The Greeks really knocked it out of the park with the ero. I mean, the curse s element for me is that they're very hard to find in Los Angeles. A good ero. But as a food maybe in my top I'm going to just go and go ahead and say top five favorite things to eat. I love a pita, I love the white sauce. Everything about it is delicious. And I don't I mean, I don't know anyone that doesn't like a hero. That's all I have to say. You've got one out of three, and thank god it was Euros, because if you had said curse, I. 00:54:01 Speaker 3: Mean, then I just would have. I just you wouldn't be we wouldn't be well, it'd be good that you moved. 00:54:06 Speaker 2: It would have been because every time we ran into each other would have been a giant confrontation, screaming match, really really nasty in that sleepy little neighborhood. Two people just screaming their heads off at each other. It would not have been good. Well, you got one out of three. 00:54:20 Speaker 4: I know both you and I can. 00:54:23 Speaker 2: We've got diaphragms, we have got lungs to just belt our anger at each other. 00:54:30 Speaker 4: So let's give me. It's one out. 00:54:32 Speaker 2: I had a listener right in to chastise me because I've apparently several episodes, I've said that no one has ever gotten three out of three on this game, and apparently somebody has, and this does go to my memory not working. Apparently Naomi ek Paragon did get three out of three, and I want to apologize to everyone and to Naomi. I'm gonna just do this publicly right now. She got three out of three, apparently, and she deserves that credit. 00:54:57 Speaker 4: So I don't want to speak for her. But it's too late. 00:54:59 Speaker 2: I feel well, it's too late for me certainly. 00:55:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like you've done some damage, I've done a lot of damage, I would say to whom, but I just don't say that you've done some really serious damage. 00:55:09 Speaker 4: And that's not my dog. 00:55:10 Speaker 2: If you heard that dog, Oh do you have a dog. 00:55:13 Speaker 4: I do have a dog. 00:55:14 Speaker 2: Your dog is making noises. 00:55:16 Speaker 4: That was not It was not your dog. It was the neighbor's dog. 00:55:20 Speaker 2: A neighbor dog. 00:55:21 Speaker 4: This is I'm this is what I mean. 00:55:24 Speaker 3: I feel fine, but there might be some people who who remember. 00:55:30 Speaker 2: Okay, right right, we have to answer some listener questions. This is called I said no emails. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com with various issues. Will you just help me for a few more minutes and we'll move on with our lives. 00:55:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, would love to move on. 00:55:47 Speaker 2: All right. That makes two of us. I, oh, this. 00:55:52 Speaker 4: Is hello, bridge to have a good time, So. 00:55:56 Speaker 2: Did I and I will. I'm walking away broken hearted. It makes me sick to my This. 00:56:01 Speaker 4: Isn't this isn't us, this isn't who we are. It's them, boyfriend. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: I don't know what to say to anyone the listeners getting dragged through our dirty laundry. And this look, this one says this was an urgent email this person wrote to me. I guess at the beginning of the pandemic. I never got around to it. She's reached out again. She says, Hello, Bridger, a helpful guest, referring to you. IOH, I may disagree. My brother is an adult. My brother is an adult child and will be turning forty one this month. He literally just moved out of my dad's house now over a year ago. Quote end quote, she says for the last time. So I'm told he does whatever he wants and purchases all kinds of ridiculous things, things like five hundred dollars cologne, cars, bikes, legal firearms, a hot tub. Okay, I know a good gift would be real life advice for this kid. By the way, I'm four years younger. Okay, but confrontation is not his thing. What do I get him? And that's from Stephanie. Now, Stephanie has his brother who's buying guns and cologne and sounds, I mean from this little email like an extremely dangerous person. 00:57:14 Speaker 4: My brother is an adult child, as the scariest open into a femail. 00:57:19 Speaker 2: Or an excellent title for a TLC show. 00:57:21 Speaker 3: And honestly, this is an email that could have been couched in a quote to help sort of sue the drama. 00:57:29 Speaker 4: Right. 00:57:29 Speaker 2: If I hadn't gotten a nice little quote at the end there, I would have calmed both of us down. But we're dealing with Stephanie and her horrible brother. What does she get this person? I mean, I feel like Stephanie has made her choice. She wants, Look, you got a horrible adult child brother. Real advice. Confrontation's not the thing. What do I get him? Sounds like Stephanie hates this person? 00:57:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds like don't get him anything. 00:57:55 Speaker 2: I think that by not getting him anything, you're giving him a message that he needs to turn it around. 00:58:01 Speaker 4: I mean, or a bullet blender. 00:58:06 Speaker 2: That makes a nice little gift. That's kind of like, I don't really care about you and you, but you can use this item. 00:58:14 Speaker 3: Right, good luck making smoothies and pestos right, figure out. 00:58:20 Speaker 2: To make a pesto. I'd love to make a pesto at home, Stephanie. I think that that is your one and only answer. Is the bullet blender. I think splurge for a used version, give him a splendor, and if. 00:58:35 Speaker 4: He wants to replace the blades, you can do that himself. 00:58:38 Speaker 2: That's yeah, I mean, this person, I am really gonna say this guy's out there in his hot tub holding his rifle or whatever, doesn't need a gift. So he seems like he's kind of living this bizarre fantasy. And I say, just avoid, avoid, avoid, That's all I'm. 00:58:58 Speaker 5: Going to say. 00:58:59 Speaker 4: I fine to agree. 00:59:01 Speaker 2: We're going to answer one more question. I don't care what you say. This says, Hello, Bridger and guest. My husband of five years is turning twenty nine this June. His birthday is always a big deal for him. Unfortunately for him, I have decided to end our relationship and he is living elsewhere. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: What. 00:59:20 Speaker 2: We have a four year old son who lives with me, so he's still He's still around quite a bit. We are good friends. So I would like to get him a gift that says I care about you as a person, but I no longer want you're genitals in contact with mine. This has taken a wild turn. He's into working out of the gym, running, watching action movies and his car. Now, wait, is this person that other Stephanie's brother. This is starting to sad. 00:59:45 Speaker 4: He works. 00:59:46 Speaker 2: He works quite a bit as well. Please help. That's from Jay. Okay, So this. 00:59:51 Speaker 4: People on very different stages of their lives. 00:59:55 Speaker 2: What do you get for your ex husband who you still like? And uh, you know, the father of your child. He's working out, he's watching action movies. Boy, look, do we get him the Fast and the Furious franchise on? 01:00:12 Speaker 4: I was just thinking, get get him a box set? Right, you get the box ray box set? Absolutely? Yeah, I think a Blu ray box set is nice. 01:00:21 Speaker 2: You maybe you match that up with a remote control car so he can kind of live out the Fast fantasy. 01:00:28 Speaker 3: What are the so mini Roku minis right adorable and a small one as well, so it's like not the full. 01:00:34 Speaker 2: Thing, right, you don't want to go full Roku for this guy. 01:00:38 Speaker 4: You got to stay under forty. 01:00:40 Speaker 2: Let's imagine there's a forty dollars budget. 01:00:43 Speaker 3: Because it's like fifty you know, the father of your child, you spend money. But I think we got to keep it under forty for platonics. 01:00:52 Speaker 4: Right. 01:00:52 Speaker 2: If you go over forty, suddenly you're sending new signals where you know, I watched Kramer Versus Kramer for the first time last night and it became very complicate. 01:01:00 Speaker 4: Hated, May do you get him crab Graver? 01:01:03 Speaker 1: Right? 01:01:03 Speaker 2: Do we imagine this Jay is kind of a Meryl Streep type yes, and she is reaching out to Dustin Hoffman and saying, look, still care about you. I'm sorry I dragged you through court and tried to take the sun. Here's Fast five or whatever these things are called Fast and the Furious saga. Here's your remote control car, here's your Roku that maybe over forty dollars, pick one, find a coupon. Maybe I don't know. 01:01:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think don't get him anything for working out, because then he'll say, oh, my body. 01:01:38 Speaker 4: That's that's the that's what that's what she wants. 01:01:42 Speaker 2: Right right. She wants me to get in even better shape I was, and. 01:01:45 Speaker 3: That's how I'll win her heart back as I'm in the best possible shit And you don't. 01:01:49 Speaker 2: Want that, right Suddenly you've got this muscly ex husband who just you know, it's getting out of control and you're not attracted to him anymore. 01:01:59 Speaker 4: I have one more idea, let's hear it. 01:02:01 Speaker 3: You get something that isn't even really a gift for him. It's a gift for the kid. 01:02:06 Speaker 4: Oh brilliant. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: And that's like we're in the parenthood. 01:02:11 Speaker 2: Right something what like some coloring books? Is this something? Do they make it Fast and the Furious coloring Book. 01:02:22 Speaker 4: Like you can. 01:02:23 Speaker 3: Oh, here's two tickets redeemable whenever for the zoo, so you can take our son to the zoo because he's a little zoo boy. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: Look, you get the Zoo Family Pass season pass, and then you can go to the zoo whenever never. Kids love to go to the they'll go to the zoo every single day. 01:02:40 Speaker 4: Got the under forty right, you're telling me that's not under forty. 01:02:45 Speaker 2: This is the prescribed amount is forty dollars. And if the zoo is charging more than forty dollars for a season pass, then that's a nice zoo. 01:02:52 Speaker 3: That's a honey, that's one of the country's best zoo. 01:02:57 Speaker 2: We're talking San Diego. This is no rinky dink zou. 01:03:06 Speaker 4: No, no, no. 01:03:08 Speaker 2: We've answered those questions perfectly. 01:03:10 Speaker 4: I know I feel good about us as well. But I'm gonna be honest. 01:03:14 Speaker 2: I know I feel like this was what we needed after kind of the I've taken my ear butt out again. I don't know why, but you know, we got into that giant fight a few minutes ago, and now I feel like I could see you in person again and we'd probably be cool towards each other, but we wouldn't be angry. 01:03:33 Speaker 4: Definitely, it would be cordial, kind. 01:03:34 Speaker 2: Of a Kramer versus Kramer situation if we can, and one. 01:03:38 Speaker 3: Of us as the child, right, And I basically got you Fast five, which is an oil. 01:03:43 Speaker 4: Picture of myself. 01:03:45 Speaker 2: This picture of you is kind of the Fast five of oil paintings. Yes, and I appreciate that. 01:03:54 Speaker 4: Yes, and I appreciate that you were open to receiving it. I'm open. 01:04:00 Speaker 2: I'm a very open person. I'm trying to just receive and that's my journey. And yeah, so look, I'm just going to say it. Thank you for being here, thank you for educating me on Willy Wonka. Thank you for the gift. I've had a wonderful time. 01:04:18 Speaker 4: Thank you. 01:04:19 Speaker 2: It's time for you to eat your salad. I feel like that's where you need to be right now, with the chicken and the salad. Kis reach out with your offers to us. Wow, our are open, our dms are open. We've earned it, the very least a rabbit feast. 01:04:36 Speaker 4: Please give me some pita. 01:04:39 Speaker 2: Give me some of that beautiful homemade peta listener, Look, it's time for you to move on. I hope you have a wonderful time today. You go out and do whatever you want. I support you in any legal action and we'll talk again soon. Take care of yourself, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com slash ads. 01:05:34 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you hear fun a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to Ma, you gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dad to survey me