1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 2: You know. 3 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk about does a repair shop have 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: the right to turn down work? Because I think it does. 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor. Is it worse at slow speeds? In 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: other words, if you break at forty it doesn't do it. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: But if you break it eleven miles an hour or slower, 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: it does. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lower. 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: What you've got going on is a false abs event. 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 4: the phone and call in. The garage doors. 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your call 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: at eighty five five five six ninety nine hundred and 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: now pee running. Hey, welcome another week of voting, repair 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: and march down the road together. I'm glad to be 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: here with each and every one of you and help 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: solve your problems, because that's what the Card Doctor radio 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: show is all about. Eight five five five six zero 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zeros the phone number. A couple of 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: things I want to talk about, but first I want 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: to give away two tickets for the Pokeno four hundred 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: coming up July twenty third. Is that three weeks out now? Yeah, 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: the tricky triangle out there Pocono Raceway. We're given away 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of race tickets, the VIP race Experience as 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: we call it, a two hundred level race ticket, all 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: sorts of things, the paddock pass plus and access to 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: autograph alley and all sorts of good things. So we're 32 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: doing it this hour next hour for all our listeners. 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: And you can, you know, if you can't give us 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: a call, you can do what Christina did. She sent 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: me an email. Hey, Ron, Recently, I was told my 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: car needs two rear tires or two new tires, and 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: was advised to put the new tires on the rear 38 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: of the car. Why would I put brand new tires 39 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: on the rear and not on the front of a 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: front wheel drive vehicle. Looking forward to hearing your answer 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and reasoning for it. And PS, I'm a NASCAR fan, Christina. Yeah, 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: the industry says new tires on the rear, and I 43 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: understand the logic. They're saying new tires on the rear 44 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: because they're worried about a rear tire failure, causing the 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: car to fish turlet, fish tail and swerve, and you 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: can't steer the rear of the car like in theory 47 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: you could steer the front of the vehicle if you 48 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: suffered a front tire failure. So that makes sense, And 49 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: there's also some other reasons that the industry will go 50 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: on and explain the technical side of, you know, because 51 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: it's a front wheel drive and you can you can 52 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: accelerate through and all sorts of conversations. This is a 53 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: great question because this is kind of like the chicken 54 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: or the egg, which came first? Right, you know, which 55 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: which way do you want to go? My personal answer 56 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: and how I believe the question is how bad are 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: the other two tires? 58 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: All? 59 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: Right? Are the other two tires? 60 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: You know? 61 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Is it that the front tires have two thirty seconds 62 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: of tread depth on them and the two good tires 63 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that, you know, with a smirk on 64 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: my face, the two good tires have four to thirty 65 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: seconds of tread depth on them. That you know, they're 66 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: they're okay, but they're not as good as a new 67 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: tire which has ten thirty seconds of tread depth on it. 68 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, what would you do. I would I'd put 69 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: them on the back and I'd be I'd do with 70 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: the end, she says, But I would also plan that 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: is somewhere in the next three to four months, three 72 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: to five months, depending upon how much you drive, put 73 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: two new tires on the front. I'm a firm believer 74 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: in you can't put enough tire on a car, all right, 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: because the contact patch. And here's what everybody misses. I 76 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: think the contact patch is it's often referred to, is 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: just that area of the road that you know, take 78 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: your hand and put it on a desktop and you know, 79 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: raise it up on the fingertips and the palm and 80 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: there's just very little contact area of your hand actually 81 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: touching the desktop of your of your desk. Well, same 82 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: thing with the tire. It's just that bottom patch. You know, 83 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the tire's only got a contact patch of you know, 84 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: the width and the length of that patch area that's 85 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: hitting the road. That's all that's holding you down there. 86 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: So you know, to have marginal tread if we're concerned 87 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: about it, put four tires on it if the budget allows, 88 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: and I get it. That's that's part of this, okay, 89 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: that you know, cars are becoming so expensive. Somebody asked 90 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: me the other day, they don'tant told me the other 91 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: day theyn' want to spend that much money on their car, 92 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: what should they do? And I said, start walking because 93 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of choices. It's it's you know, 94 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: you've got to expect expense with a car. And that's 95 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: my point there back of the car, Christina, put the 96 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: tires on the rear of the car. Keep an eye 97 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: on the fronts, and you know, start the budget for 98 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: two new tires up front. And when you purchase those 99 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: two rear tires, just be aware that you know you're 100 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: buying a brand that will be available in five or 101 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: six months. You know you don't want to you don't 102 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: want to buy two tires on a closeout, you know, 103 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: or a closeout special that you know, well, I'm saving 104 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: money because they're cheaper, because then six months from now, 105 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: when you need the two for the front, you're not 106 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: going to be able to find them because they were 107 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: on a close out from the manufacturers. They upgrade and 108 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: move on to a later model. And one thing to 109 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: keep in mind, and I say this for everybody, is 110 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: when you're purchasing tires, just be double sure if you're 111 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: buying an older model tire, even a newer model tire, 112 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: read the date code. The date code on the tire 113 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: is stamped right into the side casing. I'm not going 114 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: to go through the drama of trying to explain it. 115 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: You can Google search, you know, read my tire's date code, 116 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and you can decide, hey, did they sell you a 117 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: tire that's a year old, two years old, and so on, 118 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: because I've seen it. We've had cars come into the 119 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: shop somebody says, hey, I just put tires on it, 120 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: check the brakes, and we'll look at the date code 121 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: on the tire, and the tire is eighteen months old, 122 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: so it's an older tire, and you know it's there. Though, 123 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: a better shop will always mount the date code unless 124 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it is a positional or a rotational tire will always 125 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: mount the date code to the outside so it can 126 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: be read easily by both the technician and the vehicle owner. 127 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: But it is a small oval shaped patch of information 128 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: on the side of the tire that sort of blends in. 129 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: You won't really see it, you know, unless you're you know, 130 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: specifically looking for it, and you can actually check your 131 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: date so tires on the rear, Christina. And by the way, 132 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: we're going to be sending you out two tickets. You've 133 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: included your address. I appreciate that. That makes it easier 134 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: for research. Kathy, she doesn't know what yet, she's going 135 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: to the post office on Monday, but we'll be sending 136 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: out two tickets to you for the Pokeno four hundred 137 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: coming up July twenty third. Out of the Pokeno four 138 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: hundred Raceway or Pocono race Way, the Tricky Triangle as 139 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: they call it, viewing deck, victory Lane, driver appearances, autograph family, 140 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the whole nine yards and uh, you know, we'll probably 141 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: see you out there because the Card Doctor and crew 142 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: will be out there as well, so you know, something 143 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: to look forward to. And thanks for the question. I 144 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I want to talk about you know, 145 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I was on Facebook this morning, the Card Doctor Facebook 146 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: page this morning, and you know, I love the comments. 147 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: I enjoy reading what everybody thinks of the show, good 148 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: or bad. I enjoy, you know, hearing and seeing what 149 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: you guys are thinking. And you know, some of your 150 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: some of your questions and comments. And I can't think 151 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: of the gentleman's name was it Dave or Dana. Somebody 152 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: wrote down that, Hey, I've got my oil change crew 153 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: tuned into the show on Saturdays because I want my 154 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: oil change kids to learn from the card Doctor. And 155 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, I really do. And I said, gee, 156 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: what you know, I never really thought about it that 157 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: there's you know, another generation possibly listening to this show. 158 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: And I'm honored to have that. You know, I guess 159 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: as you get to be an older guy, you know, 160 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: there's what can you teach the next generation? And I 161 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: think if I was talking directly to the kids that 162 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: are in the oil change lanes, the kids that are 163 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: up and coming, the kids that want to be mechanic 164 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: but they haven't earned that, you know, they haven't earned 165 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: that stripe on their sleeve yet, I think it would 166 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: be It's obviously it's about knowledge, right, It's a skill set. 167 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: It's knowledge. It's it's understanding systems. It's looking at how 168 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the vehicle works and then being able to take it 169 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: apart in your head systematically and looking at the individual 170 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: components as well as looking at the whole system as 171 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: well as looking at how that system fits into the 172 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: whole vehicle. But I think if I was going to, 173 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, teach somebody to walk, I'd have to teach 174 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: them to tie their shoes first. And so when it 175 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: comes to an oil change, I think it's about procedure 176 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: because it's so much more than just put the car 177 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: up in the air, drain the oil and change the filter. 178 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: I think it's the steps and the order in which 179 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: that is done that if you can do that consistently. 180 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: It's like bowling, right, if you want to bowl a 181 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: three hundred game, you have to practice and learn your 182 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: move on on what foot to start with, which way too, 183 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: At what point do you start to position the ball 184 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: back and come forward? When do you release the ball 185 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: on which part of your foot and which foot is 186 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: forward at the time, and how much energy it takes 187 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: to throw the ball. And if you can learn how 188 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: to do that, you'll you'll bowl a three hundred game. 189 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I've never learned to do that. I don't claim that 190 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I that I can. But my point is, when you're 191 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: doing an oil change, you know, what do you do? 192 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: What's your procedure, what's your process to be as efficient 193 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: as you can at at doing an oil change? You know, 194 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: is it get the car up in the air, table 195 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what mine is, right. It's obviously it's 196 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: get the keys, and we have a very strict procedure 197 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: at the shop for a lot of things, and it 198 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: just it just saves us time and moves the day along. 199 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: And it's about being efficient. It's obviously, get the keys, 200 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: get the work order, the work orders in the rack. 201 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: The car goes around the block. We row test every 202 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: oil change. I realize not every shop can do that 203 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: or may not want to do that. We do that. 204 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: We it's three rights. We make three rights. We go 205 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: down Smith, Bonnard, Zazzetti and back to whe Prospect and 206 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: you know that's our loop. And we're listening. We're listening 207 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: for rattles, We're looking at dashboard warning lights. We're you know, 208 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: getting a feel for how the brakes operate, you know, 209 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: overall vehicle health. In that two minute, right, two and 210 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: a half minute ride inside the shop up in the air, 211 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: all right, while it's going up in the air, you're 212 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: getting ready to do the rest of it. You you 213 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: pull the rench, you pull the drain plug, pop the 214 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: filter and let it drain. It's tire pressure while it's draining. 215 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: And most of you are probably doing that once tire 216 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: pressure is done, then we can start the look, because 217 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: we also do a look when we do an oil change. 218 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: We'll inspect breaks as best we can with tires on 219 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle. We'll look at tires. We'll wiggle the front end, right, front, left, front, 220 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: work our way to the back of the vehicle, look 221 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: at the back tires, look at the back suspension specifically 222 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: of late and your process and your procedure changes over 223 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: time as vehicles change. We're looking a lot lately, it 224 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: seems in the last couple of years for broken springs. 225 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: We seem to be a country of our manufacturers of 226 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: broken coil springs. A lot of broken coils rings come 227 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: up again depending upon what part of the country you're in, 228 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: what part of the rust belt you're operating in, with 229 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: snow and you know everything else that they throw down 230 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to kill at the chemicals, you know, and then it's 231 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: down on the ground, down on the ground. The dream 232 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: plugs back in. Obviously we've changed the gasket because you 233 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: want to change the gasket, and you know, filters out. 234 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: We've washed it down, and it's down on the ground 235 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: and oil goes in, oil goes in, wash, your fluid 236 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: goes in we check what fluids we can and then 237 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: it's a visual around as far as you know, what 238 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: does the rest of the engine compartment look like. If 239 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: your shop allows us, and your shop wants you to 240 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: do this, all right, And then the last thing we 241 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: do is part of that process is for us, because 242 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: we have the oil change sticker right next to the 243 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: service writer's desk in the office, is turn in your ticket, 244 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: get the oil change sticker, and then take the car 245 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: out of the bay. But before we take the car 246 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: out of the bay, and this is something I've learned, 247 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: and a lot of shops don't do this. They don't 248 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: stop to think about it. And I'm not saying I invented it. 249 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's an observation I've made. Is I 250 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: will grab the key for the next vehicle. So when 251 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm walking out with that car number one, I've got 252 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: the car keys for car number two in my hand. 253 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't come back into the shop and get the 254 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: keys and then walk back out. I'm out in the 255 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: lot bringing in the next car. Actually I'm going around 256 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: the block making the same three rights and begin the 257 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: process all over again. Yes, I still do oil changes 258 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: to this day. There are days. That's all I'm doing. 259 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: And I tell you this, and maybe your situation's a 260 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: little different. But if you can learn that procedure and 261 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: you can master that something as simple as that, and 262 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: be efficient at that, then you can be efficient at 263 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the next thing. Because it's physically impossible and mentally impossible 264 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: to learn everything about an automobile and maintain it in 265 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: your head. But watch where that applies. This is going 266 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: to be like a wax on wax off moment, all right, 267 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: And I'll be quick because I know we've got phone calls. 268 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: If you could learn the procedure in the process of 269 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: an oil change and simplify that and break it down 270 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: into whatever seven or eight or nine or ten easy 271 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: steps for you, you can then expand on that and take 272 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: that into diagnostics, road test the car verify the check 273 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: engine light pull codes, sit down and spend thirty minutes 274 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: researching the problem and having your set places that you're 275 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: gonna look all that of mitchell I atn you identifix, 276 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: all the places where you're gonna try and find information Google, YouTube, however, 277 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: You're gonna do it whatever works for you. But if 278 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: you can master the steps of an oil change, you 279 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: can master the steps of a diagnostic and if you 280 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: can master those, there's nothing you can't do when it 281 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: comes to an automobile, because you're always gonna learn and 282 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: you're always gonna educate yourself. And that's the best thing 283 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I can tell the oil change kids out there, and 284 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm happy to have you, and I hope you learned 285 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: something from the show. Eight five five five six zero 286 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. The Car Doctor's cruising back right 287 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: after this. 288 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 5: Don't go away, good time. 289 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Write it on the wall so you don't forget to 290 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: call for car advice. 291 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: Done right? 292 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 293 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: Now back to raw. Hey, let's get over to Robert 294 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: in Nevada with a sixty nine getticks GTX to you 295 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: non muscle car people, and they are four forty that's 296 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: running hot, Robert. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How 297 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: can I help? 298 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done everything to this car that my I 299 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: have a four forty in it. I can't get it 300 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: to run cool. It's running up two ten, two fifteen 301 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: and that's way too hot. 302 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: Right right, So you know, tell me, is this a 303 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: stock for forty? What's been done to it? What sort 304 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: of power plant. 305 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Does this have Okay, it's at four forty. I've got 306 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: looming the heads on it. I got a comp cam 307 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: in it, and I've got a Holly sniper if I 308 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: on it. Okay, And that's pretty much it. 309 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: Is it bored? 310 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: I've changed the water pump? Is it? 311 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: Is it bored? 312 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 6: Robert? 313 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: No, it's god. 314 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: No, No, is it bored? Is the motor board is it? 315 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 6: No? 316 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: Is it no? 317 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: No? 318 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: It's not. 319 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's stock bored. So it's stock mechanically as 320 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: far as block structure, born stroker, the same as factory okay, 321 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: all right? 322 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? 323 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: And is it the original engine that came with the car? 324 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Just that you put heads in a fuel system on it? 325 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 326 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: All right? Has it always overheated? 327 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: Yes? Pretty much? 328 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: All right? 329 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: And you know how long have you owned the vehicle? 330 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: Twenty plus years? 331 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: All right? 332 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: It has it? So it's overheated for twenty plus years. 333 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Was there a time when it didn't overheat? In other words? 334 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Are the heads in the fuel systems something that you've 335 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: just done recently? 336 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't drive it a whole bunch at when 337 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: I first got it, and then I started doing work 338 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: go to it and taking it to car shows, okay, 339 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: and then you know, going to the car shows and 340 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: stuff that just heat, overheating and stuff, and I go, 341 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: that's gotta change. And I did put a great big 342 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: four four radio on it with the electric. 343 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Fans, all right, you know, but believe it or not, 344 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: sometimes that's the cause, or sometimes that hurts more than 345 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: it helps. Is it an automatic or a stick? 346 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: It's an automatic, all right, all right? 347 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And where's the trans cooler in the bottom of the radiator. 348 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: It's in front of the radiator. 349 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's in front of the radiator. 350 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: Oh, actually, no, it's not. It's the radiator, all right. 351 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: So you know, let's talk about the problem here is 352 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: it where it's fifty years or sixty years since the 353 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: day it was new, and we you know, we've got 354 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: to look at there's a there's a there's a reason 355 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: why it's overheating, obviously, And that's not my point. My 356 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: point becomes that there's a lot of different scenarios you 357 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: got to look at. All right, I get a car 358 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: that's overheating, I want to go back to was there 359 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: a time when it didn't overheat before I made the modifications, 360 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: When you first got this car. Was it more stock 361 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: than it is now? 362 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah? So yeah, and it was still running up 363 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: at two hundred or a little over two hundred or even. 364 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So you know number one, I'm gonna I'm just 365 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna point out. I'm just gonna jiggle your brain with 366 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: my thought thoughts. As you know, is it possible any 367 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: of the mechanical work that you've done has created a 368 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: mechanical problem. By that, I mean, could we have a 369 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: leaking head gasket? Could we have an incorrect head gasket 370 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: in that it's got a restriction in the way it's 371 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: flowing cooling from the block to the heads and back. 372 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Just something to think about, Not something I expect you 373 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: to be able to answer, but you know, you start 374 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: to think about those things, right, you know, because you know, 375 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: I've seen things where if a head gasket is reversible 376 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: but it's not and it's laid on the wrong way, 377 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: it'll cause a ten percent increase in temperature, and all 378 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I've got an overheating engine that I'm 379 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: chasing my tail for a while trying to figure it out. 380 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: So I want to get that out there first, all right. 381 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: And obviously the same applies to the intake manifold and 382 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: gaskets and so on. So let's just eliminate for the 383 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: sake of our conversation. We're going to assume, which is dangerous, 384 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: that there's nothing mechanically wrong with the way the engine 385 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: has been assembled. Gaskets and manifolds and heads. Okay, but 386 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you can you can think about that after the call. 387 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: So what size water pump pulleys does it have on it? 388 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Are they the stock pulleys? 389 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 390 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: Okay, and that's important, all right. You know, sometimes people 391 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: will put smaller diameter pulleys in. They'll speed up the 392 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: cool and flow so fast they go along the thought 393 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: of well I got the hot water in and out faster. 394 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't give a chance to cool off. 395 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: So we want stock pulleys. A four row radiator is great, 396 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily better the hot rod. My black 397 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: fifty five, all right, and you can imagine what it's 398 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: like trying to cool a black hot rod. I don't 399 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: know what color of your cars, but black seems to 400 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: be a bigger nightmare. You know, I've done a four row, 401 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I've done a three row. The car runs cooler with 402 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: a three row because sometimes that extra capacity. In my experience, 403 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm asking the cooling system to work harder, trying to 404 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: cool that extra amount that it can't really cool in 405 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: the length of time it takes for the cool and 406 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: to come ind the radiator and get out of the 407 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: radiator by it means a water pump flow. Is it 408 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a stock water. 409 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Pump that's on this You have to well you have well, no, 410 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: the sock water something. I had the old radiator and 411 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: roded and thinged out. Okay, I came with the car. 412 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Robert, stay, Robert, stay right where 413 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: you are. Let's finish this up on the other side 414 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: of the break. I don't want to lose you. You 415 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: stay put. I'm running an in the car. 416 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: Doctor. 417 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: We'll come back to finish up with Robert and move 418 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: along right after this. 419 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: Don't go away. 420 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: We're back running the car doctor. Eighty five five five 421 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Robert, you're still there 422 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: out in Nevana. Yes, I am, so you know I 423 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: should ask too, When does this overheat cruising down the 424 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: road or at idol at a traffic light? 425 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: Well, uh, when you were cruising down the road. So 426 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: it's okay, It's just it's it's starts building up. 427 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: It's okay, sitting in traffic. 428 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: Well, no, hit a heat up in the traffic too, Yeah, 429 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: for a long period of time. 430 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So it'll run too, It'll run two ten cruising 431 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: down the road at fifty five miles an hour. 432 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not what it does in the act. 433 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: And that's a seventy five and eighty down the highway 434 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: and it's uh, it just keeps. It just starts climbing, okay. 435 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Any any modifications to the grille or the front area 436 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: of the car. 437 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: No, it's all original, all. 438 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Original, all right. And from when you got this vehicle, 439 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: when it was new to you, it was in stock form. 440 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes, completely all right, and. 441 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: It ran same temperature or less. 442 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: Right around the same temperature. I never did drive it 443 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: very far at one time until I start going to 444 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: the car shows. Now I'm driving it to the car shows, 445 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: and that's when it's heating up. 446 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay. So now what. 447 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: Should the timing be on that? I've got it set 448 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: at twelve twelve twelve degrees? 449 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know the I remember the speck off the 450 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: top of my head, but i'd probably cut it back. 451 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be afraid to cut it back. Look, you've 452 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: got to tune it for today's fuel, and you know 453 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: you're chasing, you're chasing an overheat. There's two things that 454 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: come to mind that nobody thinks about. One is what 455 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: you just said, timing, all right, I would find the 456 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: spec and work from that. I don't think it was 457 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: twelve degrees. I don't believe it was that high. I 458 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: want to say a stock GTX was somewhere around the 459 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: four to six to eight degree mark. I don't believe 460 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: it was twelve. Nothing I remember from that age was 461 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: twelve degrees before top as an initial timing speck. So 462 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: timing comes into this. And then what range, what heat range, 463 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: spark plug are you running? Is it the stock rash? 464 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Your stock I'm not I can't remember which one 465 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: we put in there, but we put in the right 466 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: ones for that. We went through the parks house and 467 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: they gave us right ones for that. 468 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Well, and believe it or not, there is no right 469 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: one anymore because you've got aftermarket heads on and I'm 470 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: assuming right, I would I would tell you to drop 471 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: down a heat range just to see what it does 472 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: on black one. My first my first hot rod I'll 473 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: never forget. I was shocked to see roughly a twelve 474 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: almost fourteen degree temperature difference in one heat range of 475 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: plug cooler. Really, yeah, I had that experience. You know, 476 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: you've got to look at this as forget the rules 477 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: of it should and it must. You're going to tune 478 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: the cooling system just like you tune the car. It's 479 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: the same thing. You've to fight something, something's not something 480 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: isn't working in conjunction with something else, and you've got 481 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: to stop and think about the process. Obviously, the easy 482 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: questions are you know what temp ranche thermostat are you 483 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: running in this. 484 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 3: Well? 485 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: Okay? I started off it calls for a one ninety. 486 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: I put a one ninety in it, and it still 487 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: heated up. Okay, I check the thermostat plumb out. It's 488 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: still heated up. So I put a one sixty in it. 489 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: Now okay, So first of all, there has to be 490 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: some sort of restriction, a thermostat or a restrictor plate 491 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: in the cooling system, all right. Why The easy answer 492 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: is because we've got to hold coolant in the radiator 493 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: long enough for it to be able to dissipate its 494 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: heat before it goes back into the engine. All right, 495 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: So so let's tune it. Okay, let's just take a 496 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: let's just take an old thermostat and cut the center 497 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: button out. Do you ever drive this car when it's 498 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: really cold? 499 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: No? 500 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: What's what's what's what's the coldest environment this car is in? 501 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: Well it it gets the little zero here. 502 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: All right, But you don't drive it in that weather? 503 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: Right? 504 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: No? I don't. 505 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So just just for the sake of conversation, as 506 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: an experiment, let's cut the center button. Let's cut the 507 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: pellet out of the thermostat and just make a restrict plate. 508 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: What does that do? Right? 509 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: I haven't tried that. 510 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Let's try. Let's let's get it the flow a little 511 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: more cool it all right? Uh, let's do that. Let's 512 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: change heat range on the plug. Let's let's back down 513 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: on the timing. I might even tell you to consider 514 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: putting a shroud with a good fan on that, all right, 515 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: to see does that affect it? And and just for 516 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: conversation's sake, and I'm going to ask the stupid questions. 517 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: All right, you have the cooling fans turning in the 518 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: right direction, correct, yes, all right? You put a rag 519 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: in front of the radiator in the fan will pull 520 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: the rag towards the radiator and not blow it away. Right, Okay, 521 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: you know I've run into that people, don't You know? 522 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: You got to realize you want airflow to go that way. 523 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Last comment, All right, least bitter homework. I'm gonna give 524 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: you to do the trans coolers in the bottom of 525 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: the radiator. 526 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: Correct. 527 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: What if you take the trans cooler out of the 528 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: radiator mount it externally? 529 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 2: Well I could, yeah, I could probably do that. 530 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And you may want to consider mounting it 531 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: horizontally so it's laying flat instead of straight up. All right, 532 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: and that'll cut down. That'll cut down on heat from 533 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: the trans passing through into the radiator and creating it. 534 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: You know, now it's overheating. You understand what I'm saying. 535 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: You want to dissipate the heat you wanted to get 536 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: back into the radiator. Now, obviously, before we do any 537 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: of this, the first thing I want you to do 538 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: is do you have a mechanical gauge in the car 539 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: or an electric gauge in the car? It's electri Yeah, 540 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: it would be It would be nice to have a 541 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: mechanical engine temperature gauge and to put some sort of 542 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: an with some sort of a temperature gauge in the 543 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: transmission before you make any modifications, so you can be 544 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: scientific about it and see what your real you know, 545 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: trial and error test results become. Because we've we've we've 546 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: touched on everything that this could be. I don't think 547 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: we've missed anything. And obviously, you know, radiator cap and 548 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: basic cooling system principles and technology have to be applied 549 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: here because short of something we're mentioning here, you've either 550 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: got an add on to the car that I can't 551 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: see from my seat here, or there's something mechanically wrong 552 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: with this engine that's causing it to overheat. 553 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I've got at two thousand RPMs. I've got 554 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: it set to where it's running at thirty two degrees 555 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: at why two thousand rpm? 556 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: Okay? 557 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: And it was thirty eight. I cut it down to 558 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: thirty two. 559 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 1: You're running the stock distributor or an MSD or what 560 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: it's an MSD? All right? So does MSD Is that 561 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: one of the msds where the electronic ignition module is 562 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: built into the distributor itself or do you have a 563 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: box on the firewall. 564 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a a box on the firewall, and 565 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: then it's also built in the end to the distributor. Okay, 566 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: it's that one kit from that Holly Sniper. Right, it's 567 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: one kit covers everything. 568 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to close out with this thought. All Right, 569 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: you're not the only guy that's driving a four to 570 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: forty GTX in today's environment with that system. Is what 571 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: is somebody else in a similar situation doing? What heat range, 572 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: spark plug are they running? What advance are they running? 573 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: And where does it come in? And the only way 574 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: you're going to find that is to start looking at 575 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: the forums. I will tell you this, mild goes wild. 576 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: I remember when Billy, my first buss, told me that 577 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: sixty years ago, and it still applies to this day. 578 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Mild goes wild. I would consider maybe putting a if 579 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: I didn't need it. If if if Holly and who 580 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: ever makes the aluminum heads and everybody else concurs that 581 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: you don't need such a wild ignition system. I'm not 582 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: saying it is, I've seen wilder. But if there's a 583 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: simpler way to do it, simple is better because simpler 584 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: creates less problems. If you understand what I'm saying. Until 585 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: you sort out the difficult that you're having. All right, 586 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: So do those things, do your homework. You call me back, 587 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: You let me know how things are, and we appreciate 588 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: you out there listening to us Nevada Way, and we 589 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: hope your GTX feels better in the long run. Be well, Robert, 590 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm running Adian. You're very welcome, sir. I'm running any 591 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. We are back right after this. 592 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Running in the Car Doctor. The phone number 593 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: here is eight five five five six zero nine nine 594 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: zero zero. Give us a call, leave us a message. 595 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: If we're not on the air, we're on the air 596 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: Saturdays two to four East Coast time. We'll get you 597 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: on the air and talk to you during the live 598 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: broadcast hours. Keep in mind we're giving Way two tickets 599 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: to the Pokeno four hundred yet this hour, the Tricky 600 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: Triangle January no July January. We're gonna run NASCAR race 601 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania in January. That'll work July twenty third, coming 602 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks, the Pokeno four hundred. 603 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: So if you're up for NASCAR tickets, give us a 604 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: call eight five, five, five six zero nine nine zero zero. 605 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: We'll be glad to send you to the races. Let's 606 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Frank and Delaware twenty sixteen 607 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: Silverado and some questions. Frank, welcome to the car doctor, sir, 608 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: thanks for waiting. 609 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 6: Good afternoon. 610 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: Ron. 611 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, I've got a question about that that engine. 612 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 6: It's a full point three, it's an e eighty five Okay, 613 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 6: I've used the regular standard gasoline. But what are the 614 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 6: options for prevented a maintenance for the cleaning out? The 615 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 6: engine is a high test? I guess it's ninety three 616 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 6: around here on pane or what would you recommend the 617 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 6: options to just add to the fuel? 618 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: So what are you running? So let's let's explain it 619 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: like this. This is an this vehicle is approved for 620 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: e eighty five fuel, all right for everybody out there listening. 621 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: So this will run on an ethanol base of up 622 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: up to an e eighty five rating. So what what 623 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: what are you running as far as in this vehicle 624 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: every day? 625 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 6: Eighty seven octane? 626 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but but what blend of ethanol are you running? 627 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Because there's ten there's fifteen years, all right, so you're 628 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: running ten percent ethanol, So you're not so you're not 629 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: sure you're not running eighty five percent ethanol in this vehicle? No, 630 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: not at all, And it's probably hard to find, you know. 631 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I got to tell you. The only place in New 632 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Jersey that I've seen e eighty five on a regular basis, 633 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's out there and in some of 634 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: the corners, but is Newark Airport? 635 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: Uh? You know? 636 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: And And the reason why I want to know what 637 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: fuel is where in the in the state is because 638 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: if I'm diagnosing a performance issue and it's an e 639 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: eighty five vehicle or it's not an e eighty five vehicle, 640 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: and I find out it's got eighty five and it 641 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: and the guy says, yeah, I just came back from 642 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: Newark Airport. I was picking up my wife and kids 643 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: from vacation, you know. And I've had that happen where 644 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I'll pull a fuel sample and do the simple there's 645 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: a simple alcohol test you can do with a graduated cylinder. 646 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden you find out you 647 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: got a non e eighty five vehicle running e eighty five. 648 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: It creates all sorts of problems. So let's treat this 649 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: question then if I can as it's it's an eighty 650 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: five vehicle, but you're running everyday fuel through it, fair statement, Yes, okay, 651 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: So then your question becomes, you know, what's the best 652 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: way to take care of the fuel system? 653 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 6: Yes, the the injectors and so forth, the internal parts 654 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: of the engine, because I think it says on the 655 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 6: cap no additives. 656 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: Right, Well, they right, it'll say no additives, all right, 657 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: And I've noticed that on e eighty five vehicles because 658 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: this vehicle has a yellow fuel cap. Correct, that's great, right, 659 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: And their concern becomes that the additive is too caustic 660 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: or abusive to the rest of the fuel system. Now 661 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, truth be told, we put fuel additive INNY 662 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: eighty five vehicles all day long. Never had a problem, 663 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: all right. Part of that message, and I've never really 664 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: gotten a good answer for that message. But part of 665 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: that message I believe is centering around manufacturer warranty, and 666 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a concern, all right. Uh, the fuel 667 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: additive we put in the majority of vehicles rolling out 668 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: of the shop is barreman with hest all right. Their 669 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: their their fuel tank additive, all right, and you'll find 670 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: more information about that at their website Barmanproducts dot com. Okay, 671 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: as far as fuel system cleaning, you know, then we'll 672 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: use UH a lot of times. We'll use the Berryman 673 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: four part kit, all right, which will allow us to 674 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: do an inductive cleaning through the through a vacuum hose 675 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: or through the intake manifold itself, either fogging the intake 676 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: or in some cases it will allow us to go 677 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: into a fuel rail and clean injectors. But I think 678 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: you're finding injector cleaning is going away as a school 679 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: of thought in the industry because many manufacturers have come 680 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: up with quote unquote clog free injectors. So you know, 681 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: on that note, the tank additive solves the injector cleaning 682 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: problem because obviously the fuel runs through the injector and 683 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: helps keep the injectors clean and free from varnish and deposits. 684 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: And then the fogging through the intake cleans the backs 685 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: of the valves and the tops of the pistons, so 686 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: you're getting a two step process that way. Bottom line, 687 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: most modern vehicles need a tank additive on a regular basis, 688 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: and they need a fuel system cleaning on at least 689 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: an annual basis, depending upon how much they drive you 690 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: know how many miles and so forth. I'll tell you what, Frank, 691 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: stay right where you are. I know you've got another question. 692 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: Let me pull over, take this pause, and we'll finish 693 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: up on the back side. I'm ron an any in 694 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Be back right after this. Welcome back 695 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: running the car doctor here. Frank, you're there, sir, Yes, 696 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, real quick. Let me point out too, the 697 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: reason that says that on that fuel cap about no 698 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: additives is because they're assuming you're using e eighty five, 699 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: all right, But if you're pouring regular fuel in the system, 700 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: then it's okay to use a regular fuel additive. That's 701 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: the other side of that equation too, e eighty five. 702 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: If you were running really e eighty five and only 703 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: e eighty five, that takes a different type of additive, 704 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, because then they're also they're also you know, 705 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: talking about in terms of octane boosters and things like that. 706 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: So real quick, I got about a minute left. 707 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: Okay, is. 708 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 6: Does that have the ability to clean a little bit too? 709 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Yes? All right. 710 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: The property I've I've always found and everything I've read, 711 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: all right, in my experience, a higher octane fuel generally 712 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: has better cleaners and more cleaners in it. Why because 713 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: look at the vehicles that they're placing it, and they're 714 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: usually requiring a higher octane fuel into a performance vehicle, 715 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: the high line European vehicles, the high line American made vehicles, 716 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Corvettes and things like that, and they're 717 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: always worried about performance falling off from carbon deposits. And 718 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: you will find most fuel manufacturers place higher amounts of 719 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: a fuel system cleaner not as good as a separate 720 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: tank editor of like a Burriment all right or some 721 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: of the other things on the market. So you always 722 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: want to use a separate tank edit if I believe 723 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: in that as far as maintenance. But you'll find that yeah, 724 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: high test fuel generally gives a better, better grade of 725 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: fuel tank editor. Hey, Frank, before the clock grabs me, 726 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: can I send you to the races. We'd like to 727 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: go to Focano four hundred this year. 728 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 6: I'd love you, but I'm not a fan in that car, 729 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 6: but I really appreciate that big author. 730 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh, you're very welcome, sir. Listen, you'd be well, and 731 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: if you have any other questions, you give us a 732 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: call back. When we appreciate you being with us this afternoon, 733 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: I'm runing any in the car Doctor, reminding you good 734 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you