1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. It's pretty hard as a 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: hunter to have a conversation about hunting and not talk 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: about gear. It's because gear is such an integral part 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: of what we do and can really make or break 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: a trip. Having the right gear might mean the difference 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: between being successful consistently or just looking into something. There's 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: so much new and awesome gear out there, but there's 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: also some really great, tried and true pieces. The trouble 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: is what do you take? What don't you take? You're 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: always balanced seeing this carrying the weight of something or 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: lightning your load a little bit. So this week on 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: the podcast, what I want to do is a pack dump. 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about my kit and what I 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: carry for both a day hunt and a backcountry trip. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Then I also want to give you some tips on 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: refining a kit for yourself. But before we go into that, 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I want to share a story of a hunt I 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: took with my dad in Montana, and let's just say 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: one of us had way too much stuff. This story 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: takes place during the general rifle season in Montana. Now 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: I just got done guiding some hunters for the week, 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and of course it's the weekend. So what do I do? 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I go hunting. I like to get out and stay out. Now, 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: maybe most people would reset and recuperate for the next 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: group of guys coming in, but me, it's like, all right, 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: I've got a few days off, just like anybody else 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: that works Monday through Friday. It's the weekend. Now I 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: can get out and do some hunting myself. My dad 33 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: happened to be up for that time, and so I figured, Hey, 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I'll just ask Dad, you want to go elk hunting 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: with me today. He's like, yeah, that sounds great. So 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: the next morning, we load up the truck and just 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: head out way before daylight, get to a spot and 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: start hiking in. You know, sun starts coming up and 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: we're looking and we spot some milk up higher on 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the mountain and decide, all right, let's go make a move. 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: It's just some cows and spikes, but we could tell 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ilk, and we weren't really sure 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: if there was any bulls in there, So if let's 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: go get in there close and see if we can't 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: pick out a bowl. So we started walking up the 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: mountain and it's a ways away. We get in there, 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: and by this point it was one of those deals 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: where they're kind of in the open, but if you're 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: there right then you could probably see into that timber. 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: But who knows where they disperse you once they get 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: into that timber. Most of the time they go a 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: couple of canyons back and bed in some thick timber. 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: So we get up there, but by the time we 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: get there, the elk had really disappeared. We spotted a 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: few cows, and now we just kind of gotta keep 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: hunting around the rest of the day. So we keep 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: working our way up the mountain and not really seeing much, 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: and my dad's doing pretty good. But I noticed we 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: kind of stopped it about that time in the morning, 60 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: about ten thirty eleven or so. It's not quite lunchtime, 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: but we're sitting down having a snack, drink some water, talking, 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: just having a good time, really enjoying the day. And 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: I kind of noticed that my dad seemed like he 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: was a little more tired than normal, but also he 65 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: hadn't been out a lot, because it's kind of the 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: first couple of times he'd been out for a few weeks. 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: So now that yeah, you know, sometimes just he's a 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: little bit slower some days. So he's sitting down, He's like, yeah, man, 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I was just kind of tired today. It just seems 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: like I'm dragging a little bit. I was like, yeah, 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: and you know, that just happens. And we decided to 72 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: get up and maybe go check over the next ridge, 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: keep going, and I pick up his pack to hand 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: to him, and I'm like, this thing is just way 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: too heavy, and we just kind of have this kind 76 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: of between us back and forth where I'm always trying 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: to get him to light in his pack. But he's 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the type of guy. There's there's two types of guys. 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: There's always the guy that takes way too much stuff, 80 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: and then there's the guy that doesn't take enough stuff, 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: and then you try to find that happy middle. So 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: my dad always takes too much stuff, and I always 83 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: try to lighten his load, but inevitably when I do, 84 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: a scenario will happen. It just happens every time, a 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: scenario will happen where there was something that I happened 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: to take out that now he needs. Maybe he didn't 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: use it for years, but as soon as I take 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: it out, then he needs it. I can remember a 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: few years before this particular instance, we were hunting sheep 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: and you know, he had all this water, just tons 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: of water bottles, and I was like, you don't need 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: this much water, dad, So he took some of the 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: waters out of his pack, and sure enough, we ended 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: up way further than we thought. The water source that 95 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be there was dry, and we 96 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: were severely dehydrated, hiking all the way through the night 97 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: back and it's just one of those that you know, 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: he keeps bringing it up, like, yeah, I remember when 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: you took all my water. So I'm giving him a 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: hard time saying like, what do you have in this pack? Is? 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I was like, I guarantee I can go through this 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: pack and light in your load. There's just things you 103 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: don't need, and he's like, no, it's just all all 104 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: stuff I need. I'm like, okay, well let me look. No, 105 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: no, no no, And I'm like what this is? So I'm like, 106 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: come on, let me look, what's I guarantee you've got 107 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: stuff in here that you don't need. And he looks 108 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: at me. He's like no, He's like, everything in there 109 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I need, don't mess with my pack. I'm like, okay, 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: So before I give him his pack, I just have 111 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: to say, I mean this thing, I'm picked it up 112 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: and we're day hunting, and it feels like he's got 113 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: stuff for ten days worth of hunting in here. And 114 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: I opened up the pack and I just have to 115 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: laugh because in the pack is a bunch of just 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: random stuff. I'm not talking hunting stuff, I'm talking random stuff. 117 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: There is a full ratchet set with all the bits. 118 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: There is a dualt saws all, and there is five 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Mokita batteries, none which go to the saws. All the 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: it's in there. There is a cordless drill, a packet 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: of ratchet straps, and there are five to six full 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: like hardcover books. And I'm like laughing, Okay, do you 123 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: really need this ratchet set you And obviously these are 124 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: not hunting items. I couldn't figure it out, and we 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: just started laughing because what had happened. My dad a 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: week earlier was flying to the airport and he had 127 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: his hunting pack in the back of a truck, but 128 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: he also had some tools and stuff sitting in there. 129 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: So he threw all the stuff from inside of his 130 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: truck and the tools into the backpack, thinking he was 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna clean it out, and then completely forgot that he 132 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: put it in there before he left. Then in the morning, 133 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: he just grabbed his pack and he realized he hadn't 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: even looked in the main compartment until I opened it 135 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: up and we got on the top of the mountain. 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: So he had all this construction stuff, like work stuff, 137 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: some just random stuff that was sitting in his truck 138 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: because he was playing on putting it in his backpack 139 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: and then moving vehicles and cleaning it all up. Yet 140 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: we're here at the top of an elk com out 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day, and he's got not 142 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: only a saws all, but no battery for it. But 143 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: he has a pile of other batteries for different drills 144 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: and different things. So he's got this big pack full 145 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: of non essential stuff huffing up the mountain chasing after elk. 146 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: While the story of my dad having way too much 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: stuff is just on the extreme side, I think we're 148 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: all guilty of it. In some ways where we've got 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things in our pack that we haven't 150 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: really scrutinized, and we're carrying a lot of extra weight 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: or extra things that we probably don't use, probably won't use, 152 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: or have completely forgotten that we've got in there. So 153 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I want to just talk about some of the g 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: that I take and kind of my basic kit and 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: what my KID is. I refer to my kit as 156 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: just the basic things that I take pretty much on 157 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: every hunt, and then I kind of adjust from there 158 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: depending on the hunt. So if I'm hunting elk, it 159 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: my kit will just slightly adjust for elk, or if 160 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm hunting meal deer, antelope, it kind of adjusts from there. 161 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Whether I'm doing a day hunt or a backcountry hunt, 162 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: a few things will change. But overall, I figured out 163 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: a system to help refine my kit to make sure 164 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: that the things I have are very useful. I know 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: what's in there, so I I use what I have, 166 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and it kind of cuts the weight of just some 167 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: of the extra stuff that you can accumulate. There's so 168 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: many times where you'll be on a day hunt or 169 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: whatever and you just kind of you're lugging up the 170 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: mount and chasing after something like why is my pack 171 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: so heavy? I haven't even started the pack out yet, 172 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: and I've got way too much stuff. So just refining 173 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: your kit really helps you streamlined the process and use 174 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: what you have. So let's start out with a day hunt. 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: What I want to do is I want to kind 176 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: of do what I would call it pack them. So 177 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna essentially grab my pack, dump it out, 178 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: and let you know what's in it, and then how 179 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I modify it from there. It's taken me years to 180 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: decide what I need to carry in what I don't 181 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: need to carry, And how I've done that is I'll 182 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: go out on a hunt and there will be things 183 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: in my backpack that I've kind of always taken, and 184 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I'll take it on a trip. And after a couple 185 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: of times, I realized, Man, this thing that's sitting in here, 186 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is, this extra water bottle, I've never really 187 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: used it, Or this, you know, this survival type kit 188 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: with a bunch of extra heavy, redundant things that I 189 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: already have two of, Or this old flashlight where I've 190 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: got my two good flashlights, but I've got this other 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: one that I just never use and somehow it sat 192 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: in the bottom of my pack for years. So what 193 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: I do as I go on trips and I really 194 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: scrutinize the things that I use a lot and prioritize 195 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: those and the things that maybe have multiple uses for 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: other things, and just kind of refine it that way. 197 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: So let's get into the pack dump and this is 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna be for a day hunt. So what a day 199 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: hunt is, I'm just gonna just so everybody's on the 200 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: same page, same terms. A day hunt essentially where you're 201 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: going out from a base camp. Could be vehicle based, 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: could be it could even be from the back country 203 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: or whatever. But you're just you're going back to some 204 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: form of camp at night and you're hiking out from 205 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: the day from there. So it's normally you're maybe you've 206 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: parked your vehicles and you're camping, or maybe you're hunting 207 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: from your house or a cabin somewhere, and then you 208 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: go out and come back to that spot and you're 209 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: hunting for the day. Actually, I would say on day hunts, 210 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: you're probably covering a lot more ground than many back 211 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: country hunts. So they can be physical, they can be hard, 212 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: you can get a long ways away from roads in 213 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: a day, and honestly, day hunting is probably the way 214 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: that the majority of Western hunts go. There are the 215 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: back country, you know, week long type trips into one area, 216 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: but if there's nothing in that area, day hunting is 217 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: a great way to be flexible, to move around and 218 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: then kind of centralize in one spot and go out 219 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: different places each day, hiking into new areas or checking 220 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: different spots. So it's highly mobile. You're moving a lot um. 221 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Your pack is going to be lighter because you don't 222 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: have certain items that you need to carry for overnight 223 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: type trips, but you also want to be ready to 224 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: pack something out in the case that you get something 225 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: while you're out there, because you're probably gonna be a 226 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: long ways away from a road. You can travel a 227 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: lot of distance even before the sun comes up. You 228 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: want to have everything you need for the day, maybe 229 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: some ability to carry out some meat if you are successful, 230 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: and not have too much weight that slows you down, 231 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: so you can cover the most amount of ground the 232 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: most efficiently. Now, if I'm going to talk about gear, 233 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: I first just want to you know, obviously mentioned that 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I am sponsored by a lot of companies and so 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: most of the gear is companies that I am sponsored with, 236 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: not all of it. However, the companies that I do 237 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: work with, I only work with companies that I really 238 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: like their gears. So for me, I'm always just want 239 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: to clarify that that there are some companies that I 240 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: work with very closely, but it's mostly because it's gear 241 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: that I really like. So I just think that that's 242 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: a caveat to talking about any kind of gear knowing 243 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: where I'm coming from, and it is good because I've 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I've got to sample of a lot of gear within 245 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: certain companies product lines, so I've had experience with from 246 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: top their top end stuff to a little bit of everything. 247 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: It would be hard pressed to find too many individuals 248 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: that have tried as much of different stuff from different 249 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: companies in different places and than I have. So I 250 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: I really have a lot of opinions on gear, but 251 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: for the most part, I just like to tell you 252 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: about the type of things that you need, and then 253 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: I can even suggest some of my favorites as well. 254 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that work, but I 255 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: just figure I throw that out there before we get 256 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: too deep into this when I'm talking about gear, when 257 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: I think about what gear I like. You know, there's 258 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: certain gear that specialized for a task at hand, but 259 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I like to balance lightweight, durable, and practical. So if 260 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about what's in my pack, what am I taking, 261 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: it generally checks one of those boxes or all three. 262 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, if if it's debating between certain things, it's 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: going to try to check all three boxes for me. 264 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: So here's a rundown of a typical day hunt pack. 265 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna just pick a hunt and then we'll talk 266 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: about this the gear that I would take for that hunt, 267 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and then kind of how to tweak it and how 268 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: you can adjust the kit for the things that you 269 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: think you might need. So my typical day hunt, I'm 270 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: grabbing my my pack, and I tend to like a 271 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: little bit larger cubic inch pack. I have a stone glacier. 272 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Either use the solo or the Sky. So we'll just 273 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: use the Sky for this because it does work really 274 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: good for backcountry and more day hunt. Use a little 275 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: bit of everything, a little bit bigger bag. So that's 276 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: the pack that I'm choosing. When it comes to packs, 277 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: whatever pack it is, here's the three things that you 278 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: must have. You you need A belt, you need the 279 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: pack to be adjustable to your torso and you need 280 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: a sturdy frame. It could be an external frame, which 281 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: would be like an old school backpacking pack. Some really 282 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: good ones for external frames, or like Barney's pack of 283 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: Alaska Keelty Freighter Pack Outdoorsman Pack those are all external frames, 284 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: and then internal frame pack would be like Stone Glacier. 285 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Um there's a lot of other ones kafar Rou. I 286 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: mean there's some even that I've used that maybe necessarily 287 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: don't like, but I see a lot of other guys used. 288 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't have to mention them, but like, just the 289 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: frame is inside the bag, and so there's pros and 290 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: cons to both types of packs. But you have to 291 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: have that frame, you need that adjustable belt, and you're 292 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna want some adjustability in sizing the pack. Not everybody's 293 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: the same, so pack fit and being comfortable is key. 294 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: I really like the Stone Glacier because it's super durable, 295 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: but it's also really light and I can carry a 296 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: lot of weight out in it and that's key to me. 297 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: And it's also very customizable to my size and torso 298 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: and body, so it fits good, especially when I loaded 299 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: down with lot of weight. You know, I think that 300 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: some of the gear items that most people struggle with 301 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: are gonna be packs and boots, and the reason is 302 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: because those are the things that are the most like 303 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: put the most uncomfort on someone because you're walking a lot, 304 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: so that goes into boots and then packs. You're carrying 305 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of weight. It's already an uncomfortable task, so 306 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: you need to recognize that it's something that's uncomfortable and 307 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: you want a piece of gear that makes it more comfortable. 308 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: I've really landed with the Stone Glacier packs. I really 309 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: really enjoy it. So that's the pack that I'm just 310 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about. So now inside that pack, you know, 311 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: really I'm pretty bare bones when it comes to what 312 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: I consider my essentials. It's gonna be a water bottle. 313 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Some guys use bladders. You know. There's so much of 314 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: this gear stuff that's always say you could take two 315 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: hunters that do this a lot. There's gonna be some 316 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: things that line up. Me and my guide friends or 317 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: other outfitters that I know, when we get together and talk, 318 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: we pretty much just talk about gear and the things 319 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: we love and the things we hate, and we can 320 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: do that for hours. Because we've spent so much time 321 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: with gear and everybody's got their own little nuances of 322 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: the things they like and or bad experience with something, 323 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: and and you just kind of learn and and see 324 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: everybody's things that they like. So for me, I'm a 325 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: water bottle guy. There's guys that are bladder use the 326 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: bladder tubes and hoses. I don't like those because I've 327 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: had trouble with them in the past. When it's cold, 328 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: they freeze. I've seen him pop, or you sit on 329 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: the hose and it starts to leak, or if you're 330 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: out for a long time, the hose gets dirty and 331 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: then you get bacteria and I feel like they're in 332 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: his clean so I don't really like it. It's not 333 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: as easy to fill up in water sources. My dad, 334 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: on the other hand, he's the kind of guy that 335 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: wants water easily accessible, so he uses the bladder, and 336 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: no matter how many times I try to convince him, 337 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: he tries to convince me the other way. So that's 338 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: just one of those things. But I'm I'm a bottle guy. Now. 339 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: After that, we've got our knife, and then I always 340 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: have a knife sharpener. I just used one of those 341 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: I think they're called Smith's knife sharpeners. It's these yellow ones. 342 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: You can buy it pretty much every gas station or 343 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: grocery store in America. It's a pull through kind. It's 344 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: got a ceramic on one side and a steel on 345 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: the other. There's plenty of great knife sharpeners out there. 346 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: This just happens to be one that I think is simple, 347 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: easy to use, fairly light fast, does what it needs 348 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: to do, and you can get on working or cutting 349 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. For knife, you know, there's a lot of 350 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: options out there. You can do the replaceable blade I got, 351 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: like the replaceable blade gerber Um Vital series. I don't 352 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: really I wouldn't really use bring the knife sharpener. If 353 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: I choose that knife for a hunt or just like 354 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: a stout, you know, standard pocket folding blade, pocket knife, 355 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: fixed blade or whatever. Then in your daypack you're gonna 356 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: have your lunch. You know, this will consist of pretty 357 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: much snacks throughout the day, breakfasts, even something for if 358 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: you get in late. I throw in a lot of 359 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: extra food on my day hunts and eat as much 360 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: as I can, because when you're day hunting, you're burning 361 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: probably as many if not more calories than you might 362 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: in the backcountry, you're covering a lot more ground. You're 363 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: you've got a lighter load, so you can move a 364 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: little bit more agile and cover a lot you can 365 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: get into some places that's a little bit harder with 366 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: a heavy pack. So having just that high energy level, 367 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: bringing extra food because you know that at night you're 368 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: going back to your base camp, you can resupply and 369 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: keep going the next day. Then I've got in here. 370 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: I've got some firestarter. There's so many different kinds out there, 371 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: you know. I use like these different cubes or it's 372 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: kind of like this cotton wax, cotton stuff just depends. 373 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: I've got different kinds, but I put the fire starter. 374 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: I've always got it in my backpack, something that always 375 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: stays in there. And then game bags I generally carry 376 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: about four. It adds a little bit of weight. I 377 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: like the reusable kind. I use the Caribou gear ones. 378 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: Alan also makes some very similar I just like something 379 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: that's durable. They're more like a pillow, like a calm 380 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: pillow case style with the draw cord, and I'll use 381 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: those for not only game bags, but also just other 382 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: things as well, Like kind of you can separate out 383 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: your gear are in these bags. You can do whatever 384 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: you want, you know in the back country, which we'll 385 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: talk about later. You can use them for a bunch 386 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: of different purposes. Game bags. I always have some cordage, 387 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: whether it's like pcord something that I've used a lot, 388 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: as mule tape. It's like a little bit more tensile strength, 389 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: not round, a little bit more grip, the not slip 390 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: a little bit easier in it. That's really good stuff. Actually, 391 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: on a Christmas special talked about some of that. I 392 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if it was around anymore, and it actually is. 393 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: I saw it on a shark tank. Is the rapid rope. 394 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: It's like rope that comes out of a can. So 395 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: that stuff works pretty good. Just pull out some good 396 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: length of that because I'll use that cordage for so 397 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: many different things, but especially on a day hunt. You're 398 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: going out, You're gonna pack some of the back of 399 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: your elk hunting or whatever, but you might need to 400 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: hang quarters and stuff in a tree, so it works 401 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: great for that as well. Then I've got what I 402 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: think the most underrated piece of year in my kit. 403 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: Have talked about it all my social media a lot 404 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: and written many articles upon this topic. But the black 405 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: contractor garbage bag, if it's not in your pack, it 406 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: needs to be. It works great as a pack liner, 407 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: especially when you're packing stuff out. Keeps the blood and 408 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: everything out of your pack, but also has so many 409 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: other uses. I generally keep two of them in my 410 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: bag because I've used them as makeshift waiters to cross 411 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: a river, you know, use them as emergency shelters, or 412 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: making sleeping pads, and all all different kinds of things. 413 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Gathering water if there's no water where you go and 414 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: you can put some snow on it, melt some snow 415 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: into water. Outside of that, a couple of the other 416 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: what I would consider small items or just stuff that's 417 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: always in my bag, would be a small first aid kit. 418 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: I kind of specialize it. There's, um, you know, one 419 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: of those small made for backpacking type first aid kits, 420 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: and I put some extra ad vill or things that 421 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: I might need in it. And then I always have 422 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: some duct tape, and I generally wrapped that duct tape 423 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: around my water bottle so it's easy to find. I 424 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: know exactly where it is. And honestly, that duct tape 425 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: is mostly for first aid type stuff. If you cut 426 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: yourself or whatever, you can just use that duck tape, 427 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: or if you start to get blisters on your feet, 428 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: it's just right there on your bottle. You don't have 429 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: to dig around, and you always know you've got it. 430 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Then another item that I always have in my pack 431 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: is I have a small flashlight. I always have my headlamp, 432 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: but I also carry this small other flashlight that's a 433 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: lot brighter. I don't use it as like constant on, 434 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: but when I'm navigating night, maybe in some more treacherous 435 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: country or whatever, it helps really identify, okay, you see 436 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: a little bit further than where my head lamp goes. 437 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: And it's nice to have a backup light because I 438 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: have been in scenarios where my light batteries have died, 439 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: haven't had extra batteries, or something's gone wrong, and it's 440 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: just nice to have that that flashlight for navigation and 441 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: just light things up a little bit brighter. Now, let's 442 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: talk about optics. We've talked about using optics, and we've 443 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: talked about the types of different optics and past podcasts, 444 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: but I think optics are one of the key pieces 445 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: of gear that you're gonna have with you, and each 446 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: hunt is a little bit different. So this is where 447 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: we start to get into the type of year that 448 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: starts to shift based on how we're hunting, what we're hunting, 449 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: what our goals are, and what we're gonna need. I 450 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: always have my binoculars on me. My two top suggestions 451 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: for binoculars for Western hunting are gonna be a little 452 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: bit higher magnification, So I I either go my standard 453 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: ten power or I also really like the twelve power, 454 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: and I'm going to do for me personally like a 455 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: by fifth, So ten by fifties or ten by fifty 456 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: two s or twelve by fifty twelve by fifty two 457 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Uh. That bigger objective lens is nice 458 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: because it lets in a little bit more like gives 459 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: you bigger field of view. So when I'm looking at binoculars, 460 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at something with a good magnification and a 461 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: good field of view. There's guys that hunt with eight powers. 462 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: I think they're fine for a lot of things, but 463 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, most of the hunting I do us in 464 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: big open country, and as well, is the twelve power 465 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: too much for when you get in the timber. But 466 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: you can still use it. I just like having that 467 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: extra bit of kick out at some range. So tens 468 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: or twelve power binoculars are my go to, and this 469 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: would be something that I'm always wearing anyways, and then 470 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: I've got my range finder there. Range Finders just another 471 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: thing that just makes you that much more successful. I 472 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: remember hunting without a range finder, not knowing how far 473 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: to shoot, and just judging range and mountains is really hard. 474 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: I think the skill that you need to have to 475 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: be able to judge distance, especially as a bow hunter, 476 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: but it's nice to have that verification. And I think 477 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: as really accessible as range finders are, I don't even 478 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: know if I need to mention having that, but if 479 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: you're new to it, those are things that you should 480 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: have because you're gonna need them. Now. One of the 481 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: pieces that could be the variable piece is going to 482 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: be the spotting scope. You know, there's all this gear 483 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: and you kind of got to decide, well, what kind 484 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: of hunting do I do? What kind of pieces are 485 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: going to be essential. Here's how I decide, like what 486 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: spotting scope I'm gonna take, or if I'm taking a 487 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: spotting scope, it's going to depend on the type of 488 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: country i'm hunting, how big and vast is it? How 489 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: far am I going to be looking most the hunting 490 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: I do, I'm looking pretty far, So it's nice to 491 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: have a spotting scope for verification. Then you're also going 492 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: to have to decide, well, what type of hunt is it? 493 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: Is it a type of hunt where you're really scrutinizing 494 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: what you're hunting, so you know it might be a mule, 495 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: your tag in a really good unit, and you're looking 496 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: for a certain sized buck. That means you're going to 497 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: really scrutinize the deer. So you're gonna want that big magnification, 498 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: a really high quality scope to be able to really 499 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: scrutinize what you're looking at. Maybe you're in Alaska and 500 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: you're hunting doll sheep and you need to make sure 501 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: that it's a full curl ram, really scrutinizing. Maybe you're 502 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: on a bow hunt and you're just like, hey, any 503 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: buck is fine. You just need to know if what 504 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: you're looking at is a buck or a bull or 505 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: maybe a brow time bowl. And if you're hunting general 506 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: area Montana and you're just you're looking for the bare minimums, 507 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: you aren't really scrutinizing, then you can kind of go 508 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: a little bit less on the spotting scope, say, less magnification, 509 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: less clarity, and as you go less magnification, less subjective lens, 510 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: everything it gets lighter. So the type of hunting and 511 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: the type of optic you're gonna buy for spotting scope 512 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: is really can depend on the type of hunting you 513 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: do the most. Honestly, I think that something in the 514 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: middle is probably the best for everything you know you've got. 515 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: I would say the best type of optic spotting scope 516 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: for long range really scrutinizing would be a large objective lens, 517 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: high magnification, So I'll probably be, you know, a up 518 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: to sixty power spotting scope with a large objective lens 519 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: and the eight to nine millimeter range. A mid range 520 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: optic would be something like a sixty five millimeter that's 521 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: the objective the out of the furthest lens away from 522 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: your eye, and then something in the say fifteen to 523 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: forty power is generally with that type of objective lens. 524 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: So what happens is you get a larger objective lens, 525 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: you can get a little bit more magnification out of it, 526 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 1: and a lot more clarity and light gathering. But if 527 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: you know that, hey, you're you're mostly the hunting your 528 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: due is kind of truck based. You're doing a lot 529 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: of long range glassing, and then you aren't hiking as 530 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: far and you're going to be scrutinizing trophy quality or legality. 531 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: That bigger, heavier spotting scope is great, and maybe that's 532 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: the one you invest in because that's the type of 533 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: hunting you're doing the most. Uh, if you're doing a 534 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: lot more backcountry hunting, man, just look at not as 535 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: much magnification, lighter, but still able to just verify what 536 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: you're looking at. That might be your go to. You know, 537 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: if I'm doing a back country hunt, I've got like 538 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: a small Vortex razor goes small objective lens thirty three 539 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: power max. But it's super light and I can verify 540 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: what I'm looking at legal or what I'm going to 541 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: chase super lightweight. That's a great scope to have, but 542 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: something in the middle is the best for kind of 543 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: every scenario, balancing lightweight but also varying from being able 544 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: to judge quality to not being so big and cumbersome. Now, 545 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: one piece of gear that I also find essential in 546 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: just having used so many things, I like to be 547 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: able to put my binoculars onto my tripod, so I 548 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: use a binocular adapter. I use the Outdoorsman Adapter. I 549 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: think it's kind of the gold standard for binocular adapters. 550 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: It's got a nice post, you put your base plate 551 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: on it, and then just it's super easy. You don't 552 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: have to you don't have the post on all the time. 553 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: You just slide that on your tripod, click your binoculars in, 554 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: good to go. Adding that really adds some stability and 555 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: now you can kind of decide, well, what kind of 556 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: hunting do you do? And having that extra stability and 557 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: the binocular helps you kind of see what you're looking 558 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: at in a clearer picture. It could also mean maybe 559 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: just carrying like a higher magnification binocular. Maybe you just 560 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: go twelve power binocular and you won't really need the 561 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: spotting skille possibly. Um. So that's just something to think 562 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: about as well when you're refining the type of hunting 563 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: you're doing and what you're gonna need now. In my 564 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: day pack or any pack, I also always kind of 565 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: have a dry bag, and in that dry bag i'll 566 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: stuff my puffer or insulation layer maybe my extra jacket, 567 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: whatever I'm You know, as you're hiking, you're gonna have 568 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: to have room for your clothes because you're gonna hike 569 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: with your jacket off, so you're gonna stop and maybe 570 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: need some extra ins elation. I'd like to keep stuff 571 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: in that dry bag because then I can put anything 572 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: in there that I might need later on. That bag 573 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: also helps me kind of keep things organized, and then 574 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: depending on the hunt, I'll have some rain gear, whether 575 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: it's just a jacket or pants or the whole set 576 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: that day. Hunting is nice because you can kind of 577 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: decide each day whether you're going to take it. Most 578 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: of the time I end up just carrying it because 579 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt, and if I do carry it, then 580 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: I know it probably won't rain. Just a strange, superstitious thing. 581 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: But most of the time I've got it. Now, if 582 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm an early season archery Nevada hunt, probably not going 583 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: to get it. Keep it in there, or I'll just 584 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: do a jacket because if it does rain, it's pretty 585 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: fast and furious and then let's up pretty quick. So 586 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: that's what's in my daypack. Then there's a couple other 587 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: pieces that vary, but if I'm bow hunting, I've got 588 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: my extra socks for stalking. You might remember the old 589 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: shoes off situation early in the podcast if you've listened 590 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: to them all my extra stocking socks. And then one 591 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: other thing that I really like is a small water 592 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: bottle for my drink mix. So I I've talked about 593 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: it before. It's like my hydrate recover drink mixed stuff. 594 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily always like to put it in my 595 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: water bottle because I like to keep that for water 596 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: and then I'll fill up just like a you know, 597 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: you just get like a plastic single use that I 598 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: end up using for the whole season, like the sawny 599 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: water bottle where you can scrunch it down, put the 600 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: cap on, and then when you want drink mix, you 601 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: can pour your water in it, mix it up and 602 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: you can kind of keep the two separate. That's just 603 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: that's personal preference for me. And then you've got your electronics. 604 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: So one thing that I've found handy I use the 605 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: inn Reach Garment makes it. There's also the other one 606 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: spot um satellite messenger thing or there's different kinds of 607 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: eprubs out there. And now that we have this technology. 608 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: I used to not carry something like that, but man 609 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: to just have that peace of mind of knowing you 610 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: can reach someone if you need to in an emergency, 611 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: especially because I hunt alone a lot, it's great to have. 612 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: And then I take my phone and I use my 613 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: phone for my mapping apps on x whatever. I always 614 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: download the maps and then put it into airplane mode. 615 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: And this might turn you off from my podcast, or 616 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: it might just reinfigure you for your podcast. But I 617 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: have a Samsung type phone and there's actually a sweet 618 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: battery saving mode when I put it in that it 619 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: lasts like seven days, so I don't have to worry 620 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: about it, and then I can just jump into the 621 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: app whenever I need. For me, I carry my camera 622 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: and batteries, but I'm also doing like a lot of 623 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: extra filming stuff. So my pack is generally heavier than 624 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: most because I've got all my camera stuff, but something 625 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: that probably most people will take as well as maybe 626 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: an extra better camera or you just use your phone. 627 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: And then the last thing that you cannot forget toilet paper. 628 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: I almost forgot it in my little packing list right here. 629 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: That would be in the always in my pack bag. 630 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, you look at that and you think, okay, 631 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: that's probably pretty similar to what you're carrying. But I know, 632 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, just having been a guide for so long, 633 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: you look in people's packs and there's just I don't 634 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: even know, like there's full I've seen full size saws 635 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: and all this other stuff, and just you know, it 636 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: just depends on the hunt. The only reason that I 637 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: take a saw if I know I want to take 638 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: like the loin with the rib attached, then I cut 639 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: the ribs off halfway through, and I just use a 640 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: small I've got like this Exo mod that has a 641 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: fixed blade knife and it's got this like little safts 642 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: about four inches long. I'll use that little soft for that. 643 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: I can break down an entire elk with two inch 644 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: razor blade or even just like a regular you know, 645 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: razor blade fairly easy. So you don't need a saw 646 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: for any cut on a deer except for maybe cutting 647 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: the skull plate off, and if you wanted to make 648 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: that rib roast thing. So I will carry that on 649 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: certain hunts if I know I'm going to take the 650 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: ribs bone in like that or not just the whole 651 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: rack but haven't attached to the loin outside of that 652 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. And then one thing I always 653 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: have is I kind of have like my pocket gear, 654 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: where it's stuff that's in my pants pockets or jacket pockets. 655 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: I always keep a head lamp in my pocket and 656 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: just make sure to hit the button so it doesn't 657 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: go off while crawling around or whatever. I always have 658 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: a lighter in my pocket. I generally the of the 659 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: thing that I do take that's redundant, I take a 660 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: multitool because I like having the pliers and the other 661 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: tools if necessary. And it also has a knife as 662 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: a backup. I know a lot of guys take way 663 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: too many knife into the back country you're out hunting, 664 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: but it's nice to just have that in my pocket 665 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: for just things that I need to cut or whatever 666 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: without having to get my processing knife out of my pack. 667 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes I won't take that, though, I'll just have my 668 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: pocket knife in my pocket and that will be my 669 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: knife for everything. So that just depends. And then I'll 670 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: take a wind checker if I'm bow hunting. I just 671 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: recently started adding that back in. For a long time, 672 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: I just use dirt and sticks and leaves and feathers 673 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: that I found. But I've just decided that sometimes having 674 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: just one of those puff bottle wind checkers is nice 675 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: to have depending on where you're at tripod. So I 676 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: do always have my tripod, which will be used for 677 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: my spotting scope, my camera, and my binoculars. That's my 678 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: kit in a nutshell, and that works for day hunts. 679 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: But you know, my backcountry pack is very similar. It's 680 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: just adding more food, cooking, a shelter, in a sleep system. 681 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: And so let's talk about a little bit of the 682 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: things you're gonna need for the back country, and then 683 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: you should be able to kind of understand, Okay, this 684 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: is what I need. Really anything outside of that could 685 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: be redundant or unneeded. But one thing that I'm going 686 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: to suggest is as you start hunting, as you start 687 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: doing more of this, or maybe you've done this your 688 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: whole life, but you look at your pack and what 689 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: are you taking. There's something that you haven't used for years. 690 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Honest to god, I've had things in my back I 691 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: can't remember what they are right now, but I know 692 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: like when I started out, there was just things that 693 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: I'd have in my pack for years and I realized 694 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: I never touched them. Okay, let's talk about the back 695 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: country kit. Now, a lot of people I get question 696 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: asked like, how much does your gonna, say, five day hunt? 697 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: How much does your packway? You know, at the low end, 698 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: probably thirty pounds, At the high end about forty two pounds. 699 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: Were probably probably averaging about thirty five pounds. I have 700 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: a lot of really specialized lightweight gear. Lightweight gear. As 701 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: you get lighter, the cost gets greater. So it's one 702 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: of those things you're like, when I started out, I 703 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: was just the heck of a lot tougher and most 704 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: of my gear was super bulky, super heavy, and I 705 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: just didn't really care. Um, I didn't need to shave 706 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: off the ounces. But as time has gone on, I've 707 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: invested in better gear, more lightweight, durable, and you know, 708 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: things things change. My kids constantly changing with what kind 709 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: of gears in it, but the basics are always there. 710 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: The weight really depends on whether you're solo or not. 711 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: So if you're doing a five day trip, I think 712 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: most people probably go with a friend or something. I 713 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: do a lot of hunting by myself, so I kind 714 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: of tailored my kit toward being lightweight, but also trying 715 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: to not be so bulky and knowing that I'm going 716 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: to be by myself. There's certain items if you are 717 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: traveling with someone else that is going to be awesome 718 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: to split because you can split the tent weight, and 719 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: you can split the cooking type stuff, so you can 720 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: split your fuel and your stove. You can pull out 721 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: some some guy can carry the polls, another guy can 722 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: carry the tent. When I'm hunting with my brother, that's 723 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: what we do. We take one stove. We one guy 724 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: will carry the stove and the fuel. The other guy 725 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: might carry the tent. We just kind of split the 726 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: weight up that way, and that'll shave off a few 727 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: pounds off of some major items. Let's start with our shelter. 728 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the one that that's your tent or 729 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: whatever you're sleeping in. There's three options that I use, 730 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: so I use You've got I mean, there's a lot options, 731 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: but these are the basics. So what I would consider 732 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: a bivy camp that's just literally like a bag that 733 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: goes over your sleeping bag. I have baby hunted a lot, 734 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: and it's probably one that I use mostly up through September, 735 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: especially because when I'm by myself, there's a lot of lightweight. 736 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: Now The second option would be like a lightweight, one 737 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: man type tent, and then you've got your two man 738 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: later like three or four season tent. So the three 739 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: or four season tent is gonna be the heaviest, but 740 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: it can fit more people, has more room. If you're 741 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: going with a couple of people, that's probably your best option. 742 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: You can share to the space and split the weight. 743 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: The baby is just like a bagliner often gore text 744 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: or whatever, and you can combine that as well with 745 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: either a ground tarp or just like a lightweight tarp. 746 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: You can either hang over, put on the ground, do 747 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: whatever with um if it's raining, and kind of keep 748 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: the rain off your face and everything else. I've used 749 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: the baby sack a lot in the past, but there's 750 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: also what I call biby hunting. So that's where instead 751 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: of setting up a base camp, you just kind of 752 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: every day you have everything on your back and you 753 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: keep moving. So you might be on like a five 754 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: day hunt. Wherever you happen to stop that night is 755 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: where you camp. The bavy sacks great for that. Recently, 756 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 1: I just got I've been using some of the stone 757 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: glacier tents. So the um was it the sky Air 758 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: is just a small, lightweight tent that uses checking polls 759 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: and then you stake it out and it's just nice 760 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: to actually have that little bit of extra room and 761 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: someplace to maybe stash gear if you want. You can 762 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: also you cut sticks or tie it off. I've done 763 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: multiple different setups with it. You know, in the past, 764 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of baby hunting, but now I'm 765 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: kind of transitioning to kind of setting up a base 766 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: camp and then spiking out from there. I do that 767 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: a lot as well, so it just depends on the 768 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: style of hunting you're gonna do. And then for like 769 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: a later season, I've just used the same Stone Glacier, 770 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: but the Skyscraper two person tent. It's probably the best 771 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: tent I've ever used. And I'm not just saying that 772 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: because I work with them. That's it's honestly the best 773 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: tent I've ever used. It's super durable, it's got the room, 774 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: but it's super light for what you get out of it. 775 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: And that's been the hardest thing to find, is like 776 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: a really good tent that has the durability the lightweight factor. 777 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: You always sacrifice something that seems to be the best 778 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: balance of everything. Now inside that tent, you're gonna need 779 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: a sleeping pad, you know. It's one of those things. 780 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: The pad is not only good for comfort, but also 781 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: really great for just insulation. If you're gonna get cold, 782 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be from the ground up, so having that 783 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: that air acts as an insulator between you and the ground. 784 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: So some form of sleeping pad is super key to 785 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: being comfortable and keeping you warm. There's so many different 786 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: kinds out there. I've used all of them, you know. 787 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: Now I've actually got a therm arrest, the thermal Light Pro, 788 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: super expensive and really lightweight. I've just bought it last year. 789 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I like it, but I also think that there's other 790 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: options out there that are cheaper and probably just as good. 791 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: And like, there's a bunch of different kinds. There's I 792 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: used to really run the kind that had some form 793 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: of padding in it that you didn't really have to 794 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: blow up, so you're just you always know it's good. 795 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: And then I kind of opted switched fully over to 796 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: the more like air mattress inflatable style. There's one that 797 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: I used for a long time, still really like. It's Alps. 798 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: It was fairly cheap. I gotta Sierra trading post just 799 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: fills up with air, easy to blow up. Yeah, if 800 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: you pop it, it's gonna suck. But you know, I 801 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: think back and I'm honestly never popped a sleeping pad. 802 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: And you can keep a little patch kit with you too, 803 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: so that's not a problem. I will say this though, 804 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: I did land a sleeping pad to a friend two 805 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: years ago, and then I grabbed my sleeping pad. Went 806 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: out in the back country on a Nevada hunt last 807 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: year and I didn't have my other, my regular sleeping pag. 808 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why I grabbed this one, and I 809 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: go to blow up my air mattress and there's just 810 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: the thousand holes in it. The thing was shredded and 811 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: did not pump up. But I'm like, how does somebody 812 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: shred a sleeping pad like that? And I think is 813 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: because he had it strapped to the bottom, probably kept 814 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: sitting down doing all that. I always keep my sleeping 815 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: pad rolled up inside my pack bag when I'm hiking, 816 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: and honestly, I've never had any major issues with them. 817 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: So the air style or just more lightweight, and that's 818 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: great option to go with sleeping bags. That's another thing 819 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: that a ton of people ask about. For me, I 820 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 1: used to be a synthetic guy, thinking down gets wet, 821 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: then it loses loft and it's not as good. That 822 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: is true, synthetic will keep you warm if it does 823 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: get wet. However, synthetic is heavier. There are some lightweight 824 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: synthetic bags. But I honestly think down has come so far. 825 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: And I realized over the years I was another one 826 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: of those things. I looked at the way I used it. 827 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: I looked at what's happened knock on wood. I've never 828 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: really got my sleeping bag wet, so I just switched 829 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: it down because it's stuffs up, smaller, it's lighter weight, 830 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: and it's super warm and comfortable, and there's coatings on 831 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: the down. Now, I will say, if they were to 832 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: get really wet, I don't think you should fully commit 833 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: to that waterproof. I mean it's like the downs waterproof, yes, 834 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it works like synthetic in 835 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: my opinion, So I take a fifteen degree bag on 836 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: almost all my hunts. A zero degree bag is just 837 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: for like late season hunts, And honestly it depends how 838 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: you sleep too. So some people are colder, some people 839 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: are warmer. But if you want some more late season 840 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: camping tips, go back to I think it was episode 841 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: nin nineteen, ton of ton of gear suggestions in there 842 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: for for late season. But my standard bag is a 843 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: fifteen degree bag. I think it works really good for 844 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: kind of a combination of everything and I go down. 845 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: I also have, like I have the stuff sacked. But then, 846 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: like I said in the day pack, that same waterproof 847 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: bag that I sometimes keep extra closing or whatever. When 848 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm hiking around, I keep my sleeping bag in that 849 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: just in case I did cross the river and dump 850 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: and at least like it'll keep the bag dry and 851 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it. Now. Camp kitchen stuff, 852 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: We've got our stove, our fuel couple that I really 853 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: like for some reason. I don't know. It's I've been 854 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: looking at my list here. It's like MSR. They're mostly 855 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: MSR products, but there's a lot of other brands out there. 856 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm just the MSR guy. So if I'm by myself, 857 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: the pocket Rocket's just like a little stove that goes 858 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: onto a bottle. Otherwise, I generally take my reactor, which 859 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: is just super fast. It's kind of like a jet 860 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: boiled jet boils are great too. This one I just 861 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: like it's a little bit faster and seems a little 862 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: more durable. I've had some jet boils failing cold weather, 863 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: so I just started using the reactor. Contraveling by air, 864 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: what have you. You might want to look at something 865 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: like the Optimists. They've got like mixed fuel ones or 866 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: the Whisper Light MSR Whisper Light. You can mix fuel canisters. 867 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: You pump them yourself, so you're traveling, you can just 868 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: fill it up with diesel or whatever you can find, 869 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: depending on where you're going, pump it up and go. 870 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: I kind of like just having the regular canisters if 871 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: I can, so even if I travel, I just make 872 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: sure there's somewhere I can buy one of those canisters 873 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: and not have to work with the mixed fuel. It 874 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: can be kind of a little bit leaky and messy sometimes, 875 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: but that's the route I go. One thing you want 876 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,479 Speaker 1: to think about two is you can and I don't 877 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: know how many people know this. I think most of 878 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: the little fuel canisters have it, like a jet boil 879 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: canister or regular fuel canisters. You can set those in 880 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: water and see how full they are, because you might 881 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: use one on a trip, and then I've had that 882 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: problem where I've got ten canisters that are like varying 883 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: from maybe a quarter empty to three quarters empty. You 884 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: just don't know. So you can drop it in water 885 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: and see where it floats. If it floats halfway, then 886 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 1: it's like halfway full. There's normally most of the cans 887 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: have some kind of indicator on it, and those indicators 888 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,399 Speaker 1: are to show you how full it is once it's 889 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: sitting in water. So that's a good thing to remember 890 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: before you go out, check and see how much fuel 891 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: you got. Now for back country, another item that I 892 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: take is a dromedary. It's just like a collapsible water 893 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: bag or whatever, something lightweight where you can put a 894 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: lot of water in for camp water, so in case 895 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: the water sources of ways away, you can have it 896 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: there for cooking and filling up your bottles and whatever 897 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: water purification. I've been using a starry pen lately. Actually, 898 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: the guys, the meat eater guys turned me onto it 899 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: when we're in a fog neck because I'm just kind 900 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: of a little loosey goosey when it comes to water, 901 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: and they just seeing how easy it was, they kind 902 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: of kept them in their pockets the whole time. Um, 903 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: it's nice even on day hunts to have that because 904 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,479 Speaker 1: you don't have to carry as much water. I hate 905 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: carrying water. It's just a lot of weight. But I 906 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 1: like drinking water. So if I have something where every 907 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: time I cross the creek, I can just fill up, 908 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: drink and if I know I'm going up this creek bottom, 909 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: I'll almost just walk around with an empty water bottle, 910 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: fill up, drink, pour out whatever, keep going. And then 911 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: when I'm going to get away from the water source, 912 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: I fill up sanitized and then head out for the day. 913 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: Then you can constantly drink water and constantly have some 914 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: more santit a water. This podcast kind of bringing together 915 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot of ones I recently did about water purification. 916 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: It was episode thirty for water purification. So overnight, you've 917 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: got my toilet trees, which would be a toothbrush, travel toothpaste, 918 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: and I take some antibacterial wipes. Since the pandemic, those 919 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: are pretty hard to find, but I think they're coming 920 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: back online now. I had a bunch because I just 921 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: use them for like what I call wipe e bath 922 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: day three or whatever. You just wipe them down kill 923 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: some bacteria, try to smell a little better, clean up 924 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: a little bit. And then as far as clothing or 925 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 1: extra clothes, I don't really bring a lot. I bring 926 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: a couple of extra socks. It's mostly what I'm wearing. 927 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: What I have is my bass layer, so some kind 928 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: of thermal. I have an outer layer, which would be 929 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 1: like my soft shell or my pants whatever saftra jacket, 930 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: and then I have an insulation layer. Normally, I just 931 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 1: bring an upper insulation layer, which would be like a 932 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: down puffer, and then beanie and gloves and that kind 933 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. But as far as extra stuff, I don't 934 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: bring any extra shirts or anything like that. I just 935 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: bring if I'm like a five day hunt, maybe two 936 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: extra pairs of socks. It's nice to change. I generally 937 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: where my if I'm going to wear the socks multiple times, 938 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: I've kind of just sleep in them something most of 939 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: the time. Let him dry out. You should let your 940 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: feet breathe a little bit sometimes too, But and then 941 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: maybe an extra change of underwear or whatever, and then 942 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: I've got my rain gear overnight, like multi day trip, 943 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: I'll definitely keep my ring gear with me, and then 944 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 1: outside of that, your electronics would be the same. But 945 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, now I've started carrying one of those phone 946 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: battery backup chargers just because I use my phone for 947 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: navigation and so many other things. And then a large 948 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: dry bag to keep everything in. I kind of mentioned 949 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: it before. Um, using your game bags is a great 950 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: like if you're in barer country, you can use your 951 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: game bag to hoist food up or store food. Also 952 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 1: use the game bag to just separate out some gear 953 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: and food and other stuff. And then one last tip 954 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: is you want to sleep comfortable pillow. What I do 955 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: is I take my down puffer and I just stuff 956 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: it in my stuff sacked for the sleeping bag. Then 957 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: I put that in the hood of the sleeping bag, 958 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: and I generally just wear a beanie when I'm leaping 959 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: and that's super comfortable. Great use of something multiple different ways. 960 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: And that really is just the basics of my day 961 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: hunt kit and the gear that I take into the 962 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 1: back country. I mean, there might be a few things 963 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: that I'm forgetting that you know, when I'm actually packing 964 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: up for it, I see it and bring, But for 965 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: the most part, that's what you need, and you know, 966 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: the thing that's going to vary on your your day 967 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,479 Speaker 1: hunt in your backpacking is going to be the food 968 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: that you're taking. There's a past episode that I did 969 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: already on food, and there's just I mean, like I'm 970 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: looking at this just talking about two different types of gear, 971 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: and I'm at way longer than I normally go. So 972 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: I hope that that helped. There's a lot of different 973 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: gear options out there, but that's just the basics of 974 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: what I do. Gives you kind of a rough outline 975 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: of what you're gonna need for a multi day trip 976 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 1: or a day hunt, and then, like I said, make 977 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: the kit to something where you're comfortable. You've got what 978 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: you think you need, and if you've got something that 979 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: you never use, you know, start thinning it out and 980 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: just getting down to the basics of the things that 981 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: you need to be comfortable. Everybody's kids going to be 982 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: slightly different. Some guys take more than other guys, some 983 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: guys take less than me. I found the happy medium 984 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: for myself, and I think that just kind of tweaking 985 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: and adjusting your gear and the things that you take, 986 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: you can do the same. If you haven't realized that 987 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: by now, I could probably talk gear for days. Honestly, 988 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: It's just an integral part of what we do, and 989 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: I do enjoy talking about Gear. I also enjoy, you know, 990 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: answering specific questions about Gear because I've had a lot 991 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: of experience with different stuff, so I don't mind it. 992 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: I get I get a lot of questions about it, 993 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: and I enjoy sharing some of my thoughts on some 994 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: of that. Talking about sharing thoughts, next week, we're gonna 995 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: be doing a Q and A, So share your thoughts, 996 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: send me your questions. You can do that either through 997 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: Instagram at Remy Warren or through Remy at the meat 998 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: Eater dot com, and I'll try to get to as 999 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: many as possible. I love the Q and A portions 1000 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: that we do. It's your chance to reach out and 1001 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: kind of make this podcast two ways, and a lot 1002 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: of the topics that I talked about or because of 1003 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: the things that you guys write in about. So if 1004 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: there's a topic that isn't being covered, be the guy 1005 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: that jumps on and says, hey, let's talk about this. 1006 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll answer it in that podcast, or maybe I'll 1007 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: just answer it in the future one. And then before 1008 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: we close, if you liked this and what more I 1009 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: mentioned him throughout the podcast, but episode thirty two is 1010 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: about backcountry food, Episode thirty was about water. Episode nineteen 1011 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: late season camping. Combining all this knowledge together, you can 1012 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: go back and relsten to some of those I think 1013 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: it's going to paint a really good picture of kind 1014 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: of what your kids gonna look like as you go 1015 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: out for different hunts, and you'll be more prepared. So 1016 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: until next time, carry just the right amount of stuff 1017 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: and don't weigh yourself down.