WEBVTT - The Trade Deadline Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.239 On this episode of This League, it is the Trade 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.360 Deadline Show. We discuss all the trades as well as 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.879 the winners and losers from the NBA deadline. What is 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.000 going on with Golden State and with Steve Kerr? The 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.920 best potential names from listeners for potential NBA teams expansion 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.000 teams in Vegas and Nashville. Why Mark Cuban is like 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.720 most fans when it comes to evaluating players, and like 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.880 most investors, I would say loaded show. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.320 So we're saving the dms until Monday. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.839 Today is the day. Yesterday was the day. Actually at 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.680 three pm everything was going down. It was I think 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.680 quieter that most of us wanted it to be what 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.239 most of us imagined it to be. And I was 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.720 waiting for the bombs to drop THEO and I always 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.519 like to find out who's. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:47.120 The better Scooper. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.400 You know, everybody calls it the WOJ bomb, but like 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.720 Shams wants to do his thing too. So today the 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.800 real battle on trade deadline day was their super Bowl. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.440 Today was their day. It's that and then free agency 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:00.120 right and. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.800 Draft Knight and Draft Knight. I think WOJ dominates. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:04.160 Draft Knight, That's true. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.319 Yeah, I love how he's found. Woj has found unique 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.520 ways to say that this draft, this draft pick was 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.520 coming right and still because the NBA had told Woj, listen, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.600 we need people to listen and watch the NBA Draft. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.960 If all they need to do is follow on Twitter, 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.920 then what are they doing watching us? So he's like, 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.200 Miami Heat are keeping their eyes on that's just a 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:38.320 Julia Portland Trailblazers have been intently focused on Gary Trent Junior. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.839 So so here's what it was, right, the Woge versus 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:47.640 Sham battle Royale. WOJ broke the Delawn deal, the lawn right. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.440 Sham's broke the McGee deal to the Nuggets. Then WOJ 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.880 breaks Voucevich deal that puts him up to Then WOJ 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.920 breaks Fournier to the Celtics. Obviously he's a magic in. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.760 Plus three, woje Aaron Gordon to Denver. Plus four WOJ 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:10.239 Brown Wagner to the Bulls. Plus five wog Beagillica. Do 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.160 you pronounce it Beagillica. It's be Alitza, be a Leicha, Yeah, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.760 be Alicha, Okay cool. That's how I've heard it said 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.360 to Miami. I don't hear his name A lot be 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.280 Alicha to Miami plus six. Then Shams comes in with 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.680 George Head to the Sixers plus two. Woj Norman Powell 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.320 to the Blazers, then Shams with Rondo. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.639 So Woje dominated Shams eleven to five. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.800 He got the big ones too. He didn't just dominate 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.119 in quantity, dominated in quality as well. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.200 Yeah, he got the ones that we care about. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.760 So what deals did you find to be the most interesting? 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.240 Didn't see Aaron Gordon go into Denver, and I kind 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.840 of hate it as well as I would say pretty 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.280 much every other Western Conference contender, because the West just 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.560 seems to never get worse at the deadline. It always 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.400 gets better. So that was one I didn't see coming. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.160 Vouch to the Bulls obviously, big one. I kind of 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.120 like their core now, although they may never be serious contenders, 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.520 just to like it. And Evan Fournier thought it would 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.480 take a little more to get him. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.960 Evan Fournier is going to be the pick that the 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.160 Celtics get that they will regret. I think Fournier is 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.160 not nearly as good as he looks like he is 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.240 when he plays for the Magic, So that's just the 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.720 way that it is. I like Vushvich. He can't guard 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.040 at all, he can't defend whatsoever, but he can get 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.320 you twenty five mostly all in the last five minutes 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:37.840 of the fourth quarter when it doesn't matter and you're 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.000 down ten. So but that makes the Bulls very fun, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.960 makes the Bulls fun. And also you've got another bucket 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.440 getter with Zach Lavine. They're one of the best teams 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.440 against the spread in the NBA. I think that this 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.520 now means you bet against the magic every single game, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:04:00.640 every single game. Also, I loved Norman Powell to the Blazers. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.640 Really, I was curious what you thought about that. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.560 So one, we know that we're not going to be 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.680 able to probably keep Gary Trent Junior. I like him 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.680 a lot, But it was all of the tea leaves said, 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.400 Gary Trent Junior was going to sign elsewhere for more 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.159 money than we were going to pay him, Because really, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.600 are you going to pay a backup shooting guard, combo 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.080 guard who can't facilitate playmake but is really just a 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.080 guy that can get mid range shots and shoot deep 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.360 for eighteen million a year. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.200 I don't think we're gonna do that. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.159 So now you've got Norman Powell, who can do a 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.000 lot of the same things that Gary Trent can do, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.560 but you also can defend a little bit better. And 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.160 I think you can play them at the three, which 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.719 you can't play Gary Trent Junior at the three. I 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.320 don't know if they're going to extend them, but I 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.800 think everyone's just trying to get better for the playoffs. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.320 Who does it make better? I think that the Nuggets got, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.360 like you said better, I said, like, the problem with 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.200 the Nuggets is they don't have that third option. If 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.440 Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokich have to go off for. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:01.880 Thirty in order for you to. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.640 Be in the game, Yeah, that's a big time problem. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.600 And you still lose and you go what I think 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.720 they went three and six during that time or four 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.960 and six. Now you have a guy that's sort of 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.960 like what you had in Jeremy Grant, where you've got 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.719 a guy that can shoot. You got a guy that 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.880 is big and can defend multiple positions, and someone else 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.440 over Michael Porter Junior that's going to be able to 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.320 get some buckets. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.799 Yeah, and you don't have to play Paul millsap twenty 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.560 five minutes game or whatever he's get. I think he's 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.280 getting like twenty four minutes a game. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.920 And he's a liability. Let's be honest. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.599 Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, law Tech Bulldog. But 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.800 it's the end of the road for Roll Paul miss 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:37.600 Up there. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.920 There was a time where the Blazers were eyeing Paul 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.320 Millsap Hard I think for like six years in a 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.839 Row was like Paul Matt Millsap and trade rumors to 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.000 the Blazers. So I liked. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:48.799 What we got. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.640 I couldn't believe, like sorry, in Row, I couldn't believe 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.159 how little it took to get Aaron Gordon, like he 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.440 was that available, Gary Harris, RJ. Hampton in a first 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.479 round pick. That seems like a fleece to me. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.240 You know who got fleeced the most out of that, 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:03.000 in my opinion? 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:03.799 Who? 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:04.640 I think Boston? 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:10.560 Because Boston wanted Aaron Gordon bad and the front office 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.680 in Orlando said, in order to get Aaron Gordon, it's 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.760 gonna take a Drew Holiday type trade. I would not 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.800 say that R. J. Hampton and Gary Harrison a first 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.120 round pick is anything close to the kind of deal 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.120 that it took to get Drew Holiday to the Bucks. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.200 Yeah. No, even if it's even if it's unprotected because 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:29.960 it's still the nugget, Like that's not a good pick, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.200 like that was. I guess my biggest takeaway of today 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.800 is how available a lot of these guys are. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:36.400 Vusovich too. They said the same thing about Vusovich. I 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.400 really think that Orlando was like just telling Boston that 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.240 to see if they could get someone big, like a 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.880 Marcus smartin three first round picks or something, and once 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.440 they couldn't, they were like, you know what, fuck Boston, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.240 I don't care well some of the West, some of 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.720 the bulls, who cares. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:53.720 What do you think about Rondo? 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.320 Rondo goes to the Clippers for Sweet Lou Williams with 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.280 two second round picks and cash. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.080 I think it's pretty pointless trade. I mean, Rondo's bad, 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.320 he just di is okay. But playoff Rondo exists because 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.640 regular season Rondo exists and he's bad. I don't think 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.760 we're just gonna keep singing a resurgence in the playoffs, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.080 like like that's really what he lives on, is Like 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.119 he he plays good in some TV games, and people 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.000 remember what he used to do for the Celtics. Like, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.960 I think it's fairly a menial trade. I mean Lou Williams. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.040 I mean everyone made their like Magic City jokes. I 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.760 guess he could help them a little bit. I mean 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.600 he's he won't be any worse than Rondo. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.560 So it was it was funny that somebody said, hey, uh, Lou, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.080 I bet you're gonna get traded. This is like about 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.520 a month ago, and Lou goes, this is my last stop. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.760 It's not your last stop. It's not your last stop. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.960 Another trade that came in last minute past the deadline, 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:54.280 Victor Oladipo to Miami for Avery Bradley, Kelly Olynnok and 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:59.200 a twenty twenty two pick swap. I was being told 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.960 that Myami did not really want Victor Oladipo and that 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.360 Victor o Ladipo really really wanted to go to Miami. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.280 But because I mean his mental part of his game, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:14.200 his mental part of his we'll call it spirit, right 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.000 is I don't really know how to describe it other 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.600 than it's not good. Right. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.600 He doesn't seem to handle like losing well or adversity. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.560 He's mentioned multiple times about teams giving up on him 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.640 on national TV during interviews, like, hey, this is my 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.760 fourth team. Da da da da da. I just want 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.280 to prove myself like it's unfair and everybody's counted me out. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.360 He's basically plays the victim role quite easily, and I 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.040 get it. He's been injured and he's been bounced around 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.040 the league, and he was good in college and everybody 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.800 thought he was going to be really good when he 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:47.960 went to Indiana before. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.280 He got hurt. But boy does he struggle emotionally. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.800 So that was an interesting trade, and I think the 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.240 only reason that trade got done was because the biggest 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.160 trade that did not happen was Kyle Lowry. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:01.719 Everyone said Kyle. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.520 Lowry would either go to the Sixers or to the 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.840 Miami Heat, or to the Lakers. And Kyle Lowry stays put, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.800 why why he's on an expiring Marty? 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.280 What do you think is that play there? 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.800 I mean, it just seems like the package wasn't there, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 The interest wasn't high enough for guys to give up 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.840 on for gms to give up on their young players. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.920 I mean what was reported was the Lakers didn't want 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.480 to give up Horton Tucker and Miami didn't want to 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.920 give up Tyler Harrow. So I mean, I think it 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.000 just comes down to that they don't see the value 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.200 in trading for a thirty five year old point guard 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.480 in Kyle Lowry and giving up their young guys to 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:36.720 do it. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.280 And on top of that, Kyle Lowry wherever he goes, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.000 wants to be extended. He said. Anywhere I get traded to, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.240 I expect is going to give me at least a 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.840 two year deal twenty five million dollars per year. So 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.800 now you've got to pay Kyle Lowry fifty million dollars 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.240 and you give up Tyler Hero in the process. I'm sorry, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.199 I don't know if that gets me to contention enough 0:09:58.679 --> 0:09:59.880 for me to make that mo. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.440 Yeah. I just feel like the twenty twenty three version 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.240 of Kyle Lowry is certainly going to be worth less 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:06.600 than twenty five million dollars. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:07.400 Yeah. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.600 Heat looking to also be the front runner for LaMarcus Aldridge, 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.320 who is being bought out by the San Antonio Spurs. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.880 Does that move the needle. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:16.480 A little bit? 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:17.240 A little bit? 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:17.560 Yeah? 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.080 The Heat seemed to have moved the needle a little bit, right. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:26.400 They got LaMarcus Aldridge, they got not Kyle Lowry but 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.920 Victor Oladipo, and they got one other person a week 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.720 ago who was that It was Arisa. They got Trevor 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.800 Trevor Ariza. I think the reason that people are not 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.680 saying anything about Trevor reason and we forgot about it, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.520 is because Trevor Arisa has been going through a custody 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.760 battle for the last like eighteen months, and I don't 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.080 think he's been playing basketball, So I don't know if 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.840 he will play basketball, but he's making twelve million dollars now. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.320 I will always be thankful for Trevor Ariza because he 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.040 was such a bitch on the Suns that we had 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.360 to trade him and we got Kelly Ubray and we 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.920 used Kelly Ubray to get Chris Paul. So thank you 0:10:58.960 --> 0:10:59.600 Trevor Resa. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:00.840 Thank you Trevor Ariza. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.440 So a Resa did play the other night. So in 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:10.280 my book, the winners of this are Nuggets, Bulls, and Blazers, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.000 and also Orlando. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.480 Orlando gets Gary Harris, RJ. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.440 Hampton, Wendell Carter Junior, and two first rounders from Chicago, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.560 one first rounder from Denver, and two second rounders from Boston. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.520 You're a trash team. You need to rebuild. These guys 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.280 don't want to re sign with you. They're miserable. So 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.120 not a bad day, I think losers in my opinion, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:41.160 Celtics big time losers, Rockets, oh my god, Oh my god, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.600 and Sixers, and I think, probably to a degree, Lakers 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.439 and Clippers. But really, Rockets and Celtics are my biggest losers. 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.120 What do you think I would say that. I would 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.480 also maybe throw Phoenix in there. And I may not 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.600 have been saying that if we hadn't lost Orlando last night. 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.160 But it just seems like this team was at least 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.240 a piece away. And I mean, I'm sure they were 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.120 in the mix trying to get moves done, but they. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.040 Just could you have wanted though that you didn't get. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.160 I was really into the idea of Larry Nance. He 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.839 may not have been available, but that was a name 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.160 that was floated out there. John Collins would have been cool. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.760 I know that's sort of a pipe dream, But just 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.199 for us to stand pat the first trade deadline where okay, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.360 we have a chance to make a serious run feels 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:21.920 a little weird. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.240 Yeah, I mean, I don't know that anyone was available 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:27.120 that you would have wanted. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:28.880 I mean, yeah, that probably is. It just seems a 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:29.360 little weird. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.960 Then notable people who have not moved. I thought it 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.920 was very interesting that Lonzo Ball is staying put in 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.880 New Orleans. New Orleans is not. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:38.960 Going to resign him. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.000 Doesn't seem that way. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.160 They will not be able to afford him. 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.760 They tried to offer Lonzo Ball an extension over the 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:49.239 summer that Lonzo Ball, in my opinion, sort of stupidly declined. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.880 I think it was fifty six million over four years. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.000 I think fourteen million a year. I don't know that 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.600 Lonzo Ball's market value is that much higher than that. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.319 I think someone's going to overpay. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.959 You think so, either I can't shooting this well, yeah, See, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:04.840 here's the question. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.400 Do you think that gms know what they're doing? 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.120 No? I mean no, neither do I I can I 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.040 can never pick it out. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.520 No, because Lonzo Ball is shooting the way that Lonzo 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.440 Ball is shooting, because he's being set up in that way. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.800 Then if you use him in another way that he's 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.480 not being used in right now, then the shooting numbers 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.559 are going to go down. So who is going to 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.520 be facilitating for Lonzo and playmaking for Lonzo Ball in 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.160 the Knicks? Is that? Is that going to be a 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.480 manual quickly? Is that going to be Derek Rose? 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:34.160 I don't know. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.600 No, twenty million a year to Lonzo Ball to probably 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.800 be a thirty four percent three point shooter instead of 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.840 a forty percent free throw shooter. And then you're going 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.040 to put the ball in Lonzo Ball's hands, who turns 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.320 the ball over quite a bit, quite a bit. I 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.240 like his playmaking, but as like a secondary playmaker. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.440 Oh hey, before we keep going, I have another loser. Yes, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.160 Austin Rivers just getting thrown in that deal going to 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.240 OKC from New York. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:04.720 Yeah, that that was like kind of snuck under the surface. Yeah, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:05.800 it was a three team deal. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.800 What would it was the George Hill Sixers, So it 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:14.320 was Sixers thunder Nicks. I think Terrence Ferguson got sent 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.320 to the Knicks and then Rivers to Oka See as 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.840 part of that deal. And it's just, yeah, that was 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.600 one that just got thrown in, and I feel a 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:20.160 little bad for. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.200 Him, you know. But what I would say is that 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.720 two things. One shout out to Austin Rivers just had 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.000 a baby. Now he and his baby's mom or his 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.040 fiance girlfriend. Now they have to move to Oka See 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:37.960 where it's a quieter, where it's safer and has less 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.640 homeless people laying out on the street instead of near 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.920 Penn Station in Madison Square Gardens. So and I think 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.520 also Austin Rivers was miserable playing for Tom Thibodeau. As 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:52.400 soon as they got Derrick Rose, Austin Rivers was nowhere. Yeah, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.040 Tom Thibodeau was like, he's out of the rotation all together. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.120 And I was listening to something like The Knicks Wall, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.680 the blog site that talks about the Knicks a lot, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.720 and they've basically said that Austin Rivers has disappeared completely 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.920 off the face of the earth since the Knicks got 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:14.520 Derrick Rose. So his change of scenery was necessary. Otherwise 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.720 he was gonna just become I think, more and more disgruntle. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.880 But yeah, you're right. It was like kind of a 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.520 weird scenario. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.040 Other big names that did not get moved that I 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.520 thought might get moved, Wayne Ellington in Detroit, his name 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.600 was circulating, Kelly Ubray. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.160 I don't know what's going on that with that. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.680 We can tell we're gonna talk about the Warriors later, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:34.960 but what are they doing? 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:36.720 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there was a major 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.680 push towards the end of the deadline. That's when you 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.640 started hearing a lot of the Ubray stuff. I mean, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.800 I think teams are just scared of him because he's 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.840 been he's played on three different teams, and he's been 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.520 three different players on each of those teams. So he's 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.360 kind of a hard player to trade for it because 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.520 you have no idea where you're gonna. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.880 Go en amazing first of all, uh huh, could be 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.160 three different type of people. That means you've got some 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.840 stuff in your bag where you can change depending on 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:05.520 what the team wants from you. Or you're so inconsistent 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.840 or unpredictable that we don't even know what we're buying. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.920 And you're on an expiring so Oubra, I think it 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.680 might get underpaid next year. He's looking for a big contract. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.480 He's gonna fall off of a cliff. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:15.880 Yeah. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.280 Spencer Dinwittie did not get traded, which I was surprised about. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.160 I know, coming off of an ACL with the player option. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.920 Is it a player option or. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.800 There's an option on that Lori Markinen didn't get traded, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.080 and I know that they want to trade him because 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.800 now they have Lusevich and it's just just an awkward 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.600 combo on the roster. So he'll probably get moved what. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.160 He's got a couple of years left on his contract, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.640 so he'll probably be moved in the off season. John 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:48.560 Collins sticking put heard Trey Young's name a little bit 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:53.280 in trade talks, in trade talks, which was very surprising. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.200 So I don't know if that's smoke, if that's fire 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.200 or what, but I heard that bubbling around in terms 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.400 of what the Boston Celtics wanted. They I think Boston 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:09.439 Celtics wanted Trey Young and maybe Cam Reddish uh for 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:10.560 Jalen Brown. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.200 I would hate that for Boston. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.879 Boston's in such a bad such a bad spot. Bogdan Bogdanovich, 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.520 another Atlanta Hawk, did not get moved, Ricky Rubio did 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.440 not get moved, and Kristaps Porzingis did not get moved. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.160 So yeah. A few days ago, Mark Cuban was reported 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:34.040 to not be interested in trading Kristaps Porzingis again, which 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.119 I just don't understand it all. I don't understand it 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:42.320 because you wanted to move him. That was what the 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.240 news was from the beginning of the season. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:44.600 Correct. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.720 Uh, yeah, yeah, Kristaps needs to go blah blah blah, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.600 we're gonna get rid of And then Kristaps starts to 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.760 play well, he starts to up his game, and at 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.399 that point Mark Cuban says, no, now we're content to 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.560 keep him. But unfortunately, that's just not the best way 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.520 to run a team. You don't start talking about selling 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.399 or trading a player when they're playing the worst in 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.480 their career and then decide to keep them when they're 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.760 playing the best. That's just not how proper investment works, right. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.879 This is why investors consistently lose money because they think 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.120 that when the stock is at all time highs, that's 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.800 going to continue to climb up. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.639 It's going to continue to get more expensive. That's just 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:24.320 not facts. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.840 That's just not true. Christaps is not going to get better. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.440 If you were going to trade Christaps now, it would 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.600 be the time to trade Christaps, not two and a 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.840 half months ago when he was trash and broken. So 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.639 you have the whole buy low, sell high philosophy and 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.720 investing is completely lost on NBA owners and NBA gms. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.360 In my opinion, it's just insane. This is why investors 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:53.560 lose money. Irrational behavior and recency bias keeping you from 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.640 doing the thing that you should be doing. Irrational pessimism, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.320 and irrational confidence. There's a whole term called the national 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.800 exuberance about investors thinking that stocks are going to do 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.520 well when they are at all time highs because we 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.399 are greedy and fearful all at the same time. And 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.200 that is Mark Cuban in a nutshell. Take that from 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.359 a former broker, which I am. Mark Cuban is a 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.160