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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a Break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>With Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 6>It is Wednesday, October sixteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 6>episode number fifty. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 6>We're live nest WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, you

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<v Speaker 6>turn too quick. Nick should have stayed looking at the

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<v Speaker 6>other camera. I don't know, turn too quick.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like it's three seconds in the lane, like

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<v Speaker 7>you again, and you gotta get out. Yeah, I get going.

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<v Speaker 4>I said an extra second just to make sure.

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<v Speaker 7>So thank you, Thank you Tommy setting the ample love Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the show. We got our mix up shows

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<v Speaker 5>still happening today.

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<v Speaker 6>It's our final show of the week before, we'll get

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice time to have a bye right now.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a good time for us take a little break.

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<v Speaker 5>Its good time for everybody to take a break.

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<v Speaker 6>Go to your corners and uh and let's just see

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<v Speaker 6>where we where we land come one day getting ready

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<v Speaker 6>for San Francisco. There was a lot of news around

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<v Speaker 6>the NFL yesterday. There was a bevy of of moves

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<v Speaker 6>that were happening, big moves, teams trading wide receivers Davante

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<v Speaker 6>Adams Mari Cooper both being traded to to other teams.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Jerry made it clear earlier this week. And and I

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<v Speaker 6>know Nick, you've you've seen this report, but uh, he

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<v Speaker 6>made it clear earlier this week that they're not going

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<v Speaker 6>to be expecting to be players in this you know,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever is going to happen before.

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<v Speaker 5>The trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's the question I have for you guys, because as

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<v Speaker 6>I started thinking about this, I think there are kind

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<v Speaker 6>of two ways you can look at this.

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<v Speaker 5>What's more valuable to this.

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<v Speaker 6>Team draft capital or a big time player that they

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<v Speaker 6>could possibly go out and trade for that they think

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<v Speaker 6>would change the trajectory of where they are this season

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<v Speaker 6>and where they can go.

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<v Speaker 9>I think a big player just because for for draft pick,

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<v Speaker 9>it's because you still have to develop the player. If

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<v Speaker 9>we want impact right now and be able to go

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<v Speaker 9>somewhere with this team, I think it's now is the time,

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<v Speaker 9>which means getting a big player off season I.

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<v Speaker 7>Would say I would say draft capital because if you

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<v Speaker 7>get the player, it's and I've said this, if you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to draft for a player, it's got to be

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<v Speaker 7>somebody that'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be here longer than a year.

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<v Speaker 7>So if you're going to just rent the player for

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<v Speaker 7>this year, I don't know, especially receiver receiver stuff. They

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<v Speaker 7>don't they don't always come in right and understand what

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the terminology and all this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 7>So how much how long are you getting the player

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<v Speaker 7>for it? Like you know, I think what made it

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<v Speaker 7>work for the Jets. I don't know about Mark Cooper,

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<v Speaker 7>but words for the Jets is that that terminology that

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<v Speaker 7>Aaron Rodgers uses and in the connection he's got with

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<v Speaker 7>the Van Adams. I think that they can maybe speed

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<v Speaker 7>up that process. But for me, knowing what they're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>have next year is gonna be you know, they just

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<v Speaker 7>don't have a lot of players that are going to

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<v Speaker 7>be here on the for the on the solider cap.

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<v Speaker 7>They need as Mets draft picks as they can get.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you, Nick.

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<v Speaker 10>I think my philosophy in general is just you build

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<v Speaker 10>through the draft, right, it doesn't matter where you are

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<v Speaker 10>as an organization. That capital is so important because you

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<v Speaker 10>can build guys in through your system from start to

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<v Speaker 10>finish not have to make that adjustment that you were

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<v Speaker 10>talking about. I mean, it's nice to get a veteran,

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<v Speaker 10>experienced guy who's played it.

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<v Speaker 2>Know y'all never agree with me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're pretty across the board.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, exactly, just.

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<v Speaker 10>To wrap that up, like having the younger guys building,

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<v Speaker 10>you think about the young guys that are already playing

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<v Speaker 10>for the Cowboys. If you get those guys experience, you

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<v Speaker 10>get those guys snaps, you keep building through the draft,

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<v Speaker 10>you're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking at a really solid veteran group.

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<v Speaker 2>But how long do we have to wait for that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>And that's that's that's that's always the problem, And that's

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<v Speaker 7>the thing. Like, and I think there are some teams, like,

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<v Speaker 7>for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Buffalo's four and two, they look like a

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<v Speaker 7>different four and two than the Cowboys three and three.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, and I think that where they are right now,

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<v Speaker 7>if they were to get Amari Cooper, that seems like

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<v Speaker 7>that he's a He's a piece that they've been missing.

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<v Speaker 7>The Cowboys, I think have more than one piece right

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<v Speaker 7>now that they would need. True And that's where that's

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<v Speaker 7>why I think for the Cowboys, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 7>it makes as much.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And that's and that's I guess where I want

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<v Speaker 6>to go with this is when you look at this team,

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<v Speaker 6>if they're if they're as you evaluate it right now,

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<v Speaker 6>where are the areas that you would say they need

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<v Speaker 6>to upgrade this if they want to have any success

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<v Speaker 6>this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what are those positions right now?

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<v Speaker 10>Probably defensive tackle would be one for me, yeap and

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<v Speaker 10>that's you know, not to take a shot at anybody

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<v Speaker 10>in that room already, but they're they're just not getting

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<v Speaker 10>any sort of push up front in the run.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, actually moving backwards exactly.

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<v Speaker 10>They are getting pushed and that can't happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>you need an anchor in the middle of that defensive line.

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<v Speaker 10>I think os has had some really good games this year.

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<v Speaker 10>Mazzi had one of his better games a couple of

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<v Speaker 10>weeks ago against New York and but you need that consistency, right,

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<v Speaker 10>you need an anchor there in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 10>defensive line. I think if you look ahead to this draft,

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<v Speaker 10>it's a really good class for defensive tackles.

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<v Speaker 4>So this might be a good year for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 10>Maybe use that one of those early round picks on

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<v Speaker 10>a defensive tackle to bolster that line. But I think

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<v Speaker 10>that's where it starts, because if you stopped earlier, early round.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, so that's that's where the Cowboys are picking. Huh,

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<v Speaker 7>early round, you've already got it.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, eround, I'm trying to get me in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>It was his first or second round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm with you. I was with you. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>top fifteen, were they going to Pike?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I wonder, you know, we don't see

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<v Speaker 7>this in practice? Because you said they don't get any push.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't get any push. I could I make the

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<v Speaker 7>same argument about the offensive line. So my question is

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<v Speaker 7>who wins out in practice?

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<v Speaker 5>What did you see a training camp?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean they well, they don't really, It's not like

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. It's not like really going at it

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<v Speaker 7>like live practice. But I'm like, the offensive line is

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<v Speaker 7>not pushing, you know, and creating a lot of run opportunities,

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<v Speaker 7>and the defensive line is getting pushed back. So in practice,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I want to know, is that like a

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<v Speaker 7>good back, good like battle out there, good matchup. It's

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<v Speaker 7>not good for the games because they're both struggling, but

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<v Speaker 7>in practice, I bet they're like a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a good day.

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<v Speaker 7>It was back and forth, it was really good competitive,

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<v Speaker 7>but neither one of them seem to be at the

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<v Speaker 7>standard of what they need.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm with both of y'all, both the defensive line

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<v Speaker 9>and offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>There's pieces that we need.

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<v Speaker 7>I said that on this last show to the storyline,

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<v Speaker 7>since you had me do a double dip, I'll say

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<v Speaker 7>that if you're big and you're strong, and you you

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<v Speaker 7>can push people around, that's that's what they need. Offense defense,

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<v Speaker 7>that's fine, you know, Yeah, but here's here's there Travis

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<v Speaker 7>Hunter of Alignment that can do both.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that guy, but yeah, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 6>But here's also the thing, like they I know, right,

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<v Speaker 6>are they? I don't think that because I don't even

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<v Speaker 6>put wide. I mean, I'm sorry, I don't put offensive

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<v Speaker 6>line in that same category because I don't know that

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<v Speaker 6>right now the Cowboys would even if that player was

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<v Speaker 6>somehow available to them where they could go and get him,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure they would want to take out one

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<v Speaker 6>of the starting five to put that guy in, because,

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<v Speaker 6>as we talked about yesterday, I think we all at

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<v Speaker 6>least agree, the best five offensive lineman may not be

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<v Speaker 6>the starting five and for value valid reasons. Right If

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<v Speaker 6>that's the case, do you think they're really going to

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<v Speaker 6>go out and get somebody and replace one of these guys,

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<v Speaker 6>because I think they have a vision for ch these guys.

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<v Speaker 6>They've paid one guy steal that they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep in there.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they're moving him out of there, but

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's been an area where they've had some inconsistencies.

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<v Speaker 6>Zach Martin ain't going anywhere for this year, but there's

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<v Speaker 6>in a place where they've had some inconsistencies. The rookie

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<v Speaker 6>center and the rookie left tackle. You put him out

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<v Speaker 6>there and you know that there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 6>going pain. So they're not going to change those. You're

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<v Speaker 6>developing them. And obviously the left guard's the best offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 6>You got so off the line. I throw out when

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<v Speaker 6>I say, if you were going to look at a position,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even look at that because that wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 6>one that you would change out talk about defensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 6>Is running back in that mix, is wide receiver in

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<v Speaker 6>that mix? But the question becomes, is there a single

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<v Speaker 6>player that you go out and spin draft capital on

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<v Speaker 6>that all of a sudden, Now your team goes from

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<v Speaker 6>where they are right now, where they're three and three,

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<v Speaker 6>and everybody's kind of like, I don't know, the wills

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<v Speaker 6>seem a little wobbly, to oh wow, this team can

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<v Speaker 6>really compete in the NFC against the better teams in MC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>To me that that position is usually a defensive end,

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<v Speaker 7>a position a player that can just come in a

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<v Speaker 7>wreck a game, and I don't know if they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to do that. That's a lot of draft capital and

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<v Speaker 7>to go get certain guys that are.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that though.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that would be great, and Michael Park would love

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<v Speaker 7>that too, because they keep losing. You keep losing, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>pass rushers, but I just don't there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of positions you could say that guy changes a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>It's usually you know, maybe a great cornerback would or.

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<v Speaker 5>A great receiver would.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think that's also the thing, like you give

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<v Speaker 6>up all give up all that draft capital to get

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<v Speaker 6>what would effectively be a second wide receiver. Like that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's where it gets a little bit challenging. You give

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<v Speaker 6>up some draft pick, you give up a draft pick

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<v Speaker 6>or multiple draft picks. You've probably got to pay that guy.

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<v Speaker 6>So now you've added to the amount on a cap

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<v Speaker 6>that already is struggling a bit. You know what, does

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<v Speaker 6>that Does that really make sense? Does that really help

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<v Speaker 6>you in the long term?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think in one position.

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<v Speaker 9>I think definitely not as running back, because we know

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<v Speaker 9>we can get a free agent running back to so

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<v Speaker 9>many running backs now they don't. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 9>have like a first round or second round running back anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the league is kind of shown that now

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<v Speaker 9>you can get a free agent, you can get someone

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<v Speaker 9>that's not even you know.

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<v Speaker 5>In the draft that's high.

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<v Speaker 9>That makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 7>I wish they would have gotten somebody though in the

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<v Speaker 7>draft this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't and even the free agent that they pick

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<v Speaker 7>up was like not even a starter at his school

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<v Speaker 7>in Missouri. So like they really didn't didn't address that position.

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<v Speaker 7>They tried to, or at least they said they tried to.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, with all those picks, I thought somebody

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<v Speaker 7>they would have they would have picked up there, And

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<v Speaker 7>that's what I'm looking at. I'd look at the practice

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<v Speaker 7>squad right now. If I was the guy was other

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<v Speaker 7>teams practice squads, there's young running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably out there. I would do that.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're not going to use your own guy who's

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<v Speaker 7>for whatever, whatever the reason, Dalvin Cook is there. But

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think it's time to kind of look

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<v Speaker 7>at something. But I still think it's the guys up front.

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<v Speaker 7>If you don't get him blocked, it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's not going to matter who you throw out

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<v Speaker 10>there if the offensive line isn't getting any push.

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<v Speaker 4>So I agree with Derek.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think you look at offensive line as a

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<v Speaker 10>position where hey.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to draft a guy, or hey we need

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<v Speaker 4>to go pick somebody up.

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<v Speaker 10>Because the five that they've got out there has been

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<v Speaker 10>clear with everything that's been said this week, they're going

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<v Speaker 10>to ride with those five guys and just wait till

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<v Speaker 10>they put it together, right, Just get some continuity out

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<v Speaker 10>there and so once that happens, maybe the run game

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<v Speaker 10>starts to open up, and maybe the guys they do

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<v Speaker 10>have start to show you what they showed you in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 10>Right and Nico Daddle gets twenty touches and gets eighty

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<v Speaker 10>seven yards, maybe you start to see that stack. But

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<v Speaker 10>right now it's just they're not putting it together. There's

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<v Speaker 10>no continuity the last two games. So yeah, the consistency

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<v Speaker 10>it gets, it gets difficult.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're going to take our first break a little

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<v Speaker 6>early here, but when we come back, I actually want

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<v Speaker 6>to dive into that topic a little bit more and

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<v Speaker 6>talk about the running backs and ask you guys the question,

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<v Speaker 6>which of the running backs Hunter Lipkey, Rico Dwell or

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<v Speaker 6>Dalvin Cook do you think the Cowboy should commit to

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<v Speaker 6>and be willing to really ride and give an opportunity

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<v Speaker 6>about the running back position on the break. We've been

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<v Speaker 6>talking a lot about the running back position more from

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<v Speaker 6>the standpoint, and this goes back to training camp. Brian

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<v Speaker 6>and I both have a theory. Brian brought us and

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<v Speaker 6>I both have the theory that if Dallas would just

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<v Speaker 6>commit to Rico Dowbell, he could be successful in this

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<v Speaker 6>offense as the lead running back.

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<v Speaker 5>The running game may not be great.

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<v Speaker 6>But it certainly would be serviceable. My question for you

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<v Speaker 6>guys is, do you guys agree with that premise and

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<v Speaker 6>is he the guy that you would do that with

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<v Speaker 6>or would it be someone like a hunter O Libkey

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<v Speaker 6>or would it be someone like a Dalvin Cook. So

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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of a two part question. Do you agree

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<v Speaker 6>with the premise and to who should be that guy?

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<v Speaker 7>I do not agree with that at premise. I think

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<v Speaker 7>that most teams in the league have two backs, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think the Cowboys are using two backs with Rico

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<v Speaker 7>and Zeke. I don't think either one of them are

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<v Speaker 7>good enough to be the lead guy. I don't think

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<v Speaker 7>Rico is. I think he's solid. I think Rico would

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<v Speaker 7>be a solid number two, But I don't think you

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<v Speaker 7>have that lead back right now. So I mean, even

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<v Speaker 7>in the game he had against Pittsburgh, I mean eighty

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<v Speaker 7>seventy yards, I mean that's not something that you would

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<v Speaker 7>be too excited about.

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<v Speaker 6>I just unless you're the starving man who just got

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<v Speaker 6>assaulting Cracker exactly and you're like, oh gosh, that so good.

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<v Speaker 12>It was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just right really really great and that's and

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<v Speaker 7>that's fine, but he's not going to get fat on that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. He's just it's just like

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<v Speaker 7>you need another one and you need to put some

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<v Speaker 7>mone in. Well I'm just saying like that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 7>he's he's not going to go into sumo wrestling just

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<v Speaker 7>because he had a couple of assaulting crackers, like doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>help the problem.

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<v Speaker 9>But he seems to be the guy that we have

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<v Speaker 9>right now.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we have to that's what we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to work with.

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<v Speaker 9>He's not in every down back, but that's what we got.

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<v Speaker 9>But at the same time, like I love Hunter Lipkey,

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<v Speaker 9>I think he's just a versatile back. You know, you

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<v Speaker 9>can play the f the wide age backfield, slot, everything,

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<v Speaker 9>and then you could see that Dak has a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of confidence him in third down situations. So I love him.

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<v Speaker 9>I know that he wouldn't be the solution to the problems.

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<v Speaker 9>And then Dalvin Cook doesn't seemed to even be in

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<v Speaker 9>the equation, right, so I think we just have to

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<v Speaker 9>go with Rico.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I agree with that. I think Rico's your guy,

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<v Speaker 10>not an every down guy obviously. I think in those

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<v Speaker 10>short yard situations, you look at Zekie, look at Hunter Lipkey.

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<v Speaker 10>He probably lucky over Zekera, I think, I'll being honest.

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<v Speaker 10>But when you look at Rico, I mean, he's averaging

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<v Speaker 10>north the four yards to carry every time he touches

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<v Speaker 10>the ball every game that he's played. You're keeping the

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<v Speaker 10>offense on schedule doing that. It's what I've said before,

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<v Speaker 10>he's just not getting touches. And when he did get touches,

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<v Speaker 10>you saw what he did. Sure, eighty seven yards doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>blow you out of the water, but when you went

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<v Speaker 10>back and watched the second half of that Pittsburgh game,

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<v Speaker 10>he was moving around. He's establishing the run for this

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<v Speaker 10>team like we hadn't seen all season before.

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<v Speaker 7>What's impressive of the four yards to carry is that

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<v Speaker 7>there's no thirty nine yard or that's like messing up.

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<v Speaker 7>There's nothing longer than a thirteen yard run exactly by

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<v Speaker 7>the entire team this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And.

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<v Speaker 6>That tells you even more about how productive he's being

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<v Speaker 6>just in those steady production four or five yards.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, exactly. It's all about keeping your offense on

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<v Speaker 10>schedule right. One of the things that michaemccarthy said he

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<v Speaker 10>was so happy about in that Pittsburgh game was setting

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<v Speaker 10>themselves up is that it was the best they played

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<v Speaker 10>on first and second down. They're setting themselves up in

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<v Speaker 10>third and short, third and manageable situations. Whereas you look

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<v Speaker 10>at some of the other games this year, you've got

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<v Speaker 10>third nine, ten, eleven constantly just because guys are getting

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<v Speaker 10>pushed back, tackles for lost things like that. So if

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<v Speaker 10>you're setting up the run well with Rico, watch run

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<v Speaker 10>away from it. Just give him touches.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I'll be clear, I wasn't saying he should

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<v Speaker 6>be the every down back because I think it's clear

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<v Speaker 6>Hunter Lipki has I don't think done a good job

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<v Speaker 6>as a third down back. I think they should actually

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<v Speaker 6>find ways to give him more opportunities to get the

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<v Speaker 6>ball in his hand because I think he's I think

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<v Speaker 6>he's he's the kind of guy that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>liken him to somebody like Uscheck in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not just a blocking fullback.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a guy that you can give the ball and

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<v Speaker 6>trust him with the ball, and throw passes to him

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<v Speaker 6>and do things that can kind of create mismatch issues

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<v Speaker 6>for the defense. But that being said, I do think

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<v Speaker 6>Rico is the guy that if you committed to him

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<v Speaker 6>as being the guy that was going to get the

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<v Speaker 6>majority of the touches, and you use the other backs

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<v Speaker 6>to spell him when he needs to be spelled, rather

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<v Speaker 6>than I'm gonna take this series and run somebody else

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<v Speaker 6>out there, or whatever the case might be.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you did that, I think you'd.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably get more out of your running game than what

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<v Speaker 6>you're getting right now. Again, may not be great, but

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<v Speaker 6>it certainly I think will be serviceable for this offense

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<v Speaker 6>and right now what they need and they need right now,

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<v Speaker 6>they need just a respectable running game where defenses are like,

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<v Speaker 6>we have to.

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<v Speaker 5>At least respect it right now? They don't, right all right.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think many defenses are, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>part of what you're seeing in the passing game and

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<v Speaker 6>the struggles there. I don't think defenses think about the

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<v Speaker 6>running game is something that can hurt them. You said,

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<v Speaker 6>A thirteen yards the most you've gotten on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, there's no juice there, Yeah, right, all right.

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<v Speaker 6>Next question I have for you, guys, jal and Toba

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<v Speaker 6>continue to be the wide receiver to when Cooks returns?

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<v Speaker 7>No, yeah, I said no, I say no to that

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<v Speaker 7>but this is okay because you're second and your third receiver,

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<v Speaker 7>like they play a lot, and I'm fine with with that.

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<v Speaker 7>There's not like it's the the third guy now is

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<v Speaker 7>creeping into like to change all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, would it be Brooks I mean or

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<v Speaker 2>or yeah, Brooks Turpin.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, Turpin's kind of a unique player, so he's

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<v Speaker 7>doing yeah, and he's still gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Do all that, right, So it doesn't that's not gonna change.

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<v Speaker 7>So no, I mean, receiver two receiver three, that's not

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<v Speaker 7>a huge difference for me. So I would probably put

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<v Speaker 7>Cooks back into the into the same role. But I

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<v Speaker 7>think they got to use Cooks differently.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's the question.

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<v Speaker 6>Have you seen an appreciable difference in the offense without

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<v Speaker 6>cooks versus with.

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<v Speaker 9>Cooks have four red zone targets? I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 9>obviously cooks have been yeah, hurt, but doesn't.

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<v Speaker 7>He I Again, I think the point I'm making is

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<v Speaker 7>Jalen Brooks. I don't need Jalen Brooks to take any

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<v Speaker 7>of the theirs away. So it's fine if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be Cooks. It's too Tolbvert is too. That doesn't really

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<v Speaker 7>matter because I think three guys still play a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>So those are the three, doesn't It doesn't matter to me.

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.880
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of like cornerback, where if it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 7>who's the start, second, third, they're all gonna play. So

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<v Speaker 7>I that's fine, it's not it's not the fourth guy

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<v Speaker 7>though that I don't think Cooks goes to the fourth spot.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he's the.

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<v Speaker 7>Three, that's fine. You still need them. You still need

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<v Speaker 7>to get him down the field more though. Don't run

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<v Speaker 7>the routes they've been running with him. Get him a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit more vertical, which is what we're seeing with

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<v Speaker 7>Tolbert too, to make a place when he can see

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<v Speaker 7>the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, messy man, so messy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's on one today?

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<v Speaker 5>Is today his whole life? Yea, his whole life.

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<v Speaker 9>But it's no emotion, just looked especially.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of miss it, but I don't like.

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<v Speaker 14>You got to.

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<v Speaker 10>Like that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that the gap between two and three is

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<v Speaker 10>not as large as maybe some folks think it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Brandon Cooks.

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<v Speaker 10>Obviously brings you that veteran experience, and he's been in

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<v Speaker 10>the offense for quite some time now. But Jalen Tolbert

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<v Speaker 10>shown you that he can give you wide receiver to production. Right,

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<v Speaker 10>it's not consistent, but he should you that he can

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<v Speaker 10>do it. And so if that means, you know, you

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<v Speaker 10>you lessen your targets to him, but he makes them

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<v Speaker 10>count and that third wide receiver spot and you're getting

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<v Speaker 10>Brandon involved. Your offense is going to be fine. This

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<v Speaker 10>is an offense we know it is going to throw

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<v Speaker 10>the ball around a lot. So the more options you've

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<v Speaker 10>got to throw it to that are reliable and that

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<v Speaker 10>you've seen play reliable for you this year.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the better the irony there of the you know,

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<v Speaker 7>because everyone saw it and that Brandon Cooks has really

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<v Speaker 7>been one of the big reasons that Jalen Tolbert has

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<v Speaker 7>matured as a player and maybe even as a as

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<v Speaker 7>a person. I mean, he's a he's a great leader

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<v Speaker 7>for that locker room, and he took Tolbert under his

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<v Speaker 7>wing from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of I right.

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<v Speaker 7>Because like he gets hurt, he comes back, he's like,

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<v Speaker 7>do they even need coox? You know you got Tolvert now,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, he was a young you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the Jedi night. You know, I got him. I

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<v Speaker 2>got him up here. Now all of a sudden, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just like a you're good.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the thing about it is for me, but the

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<v Speaker 6>thing about it for Cooks is I think Cooks is

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<v Speaker 6>better than what the Cowboys, than how they use him.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think you should be able to if you look at

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<v Speaker 6>his career, what he's been able to produce at every stop.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't think Dallas is getting that out of him.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't think that's about his skill level at

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<v Speaker 6>this point. I think for whatever reason, he's just not

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<v Speaker 6>getting the same kinds of opportunities that he once did.

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<v Speaker 6>And maybe Dallas just isn't using him in the way

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<v Speaker 6>that he can do more things than just kind of

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<v Speaker 6>be your guy. That this stretches the field. I think

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<v Speaker 6>Cavante Turpin can do that for you. I think Brandon

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<v Speaker 6>Cooks has a deeper skill level than that, and I

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<v Speaker 6>just don't know that they're using it in that way.

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<v Speaker 9>You know what's funny, Derek, that you say over and

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<v Speaker 9>over again I've heard is that the usage like Rico Cooks,

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<v Speaker 9>like we're not using our players to the best situation

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<v Speaker 9>setting them up to succeed, right. Well, that's that's which

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 9>is so funny because I've heard that now it's the

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<v Speaker 9>same thing over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>That sets up my next question.

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<v Speaker 6>How much of the ineffectiveness of the offense do you

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<v Speaker 6>guys attribute to the play caller? How much credit or

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<v Speaker 6>how much of that does does Mike McCarthy have.

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<v Speaker 2>To wear a lot? I mean, that's the preparation.

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<v Speaker 7>We talked about it yesterday of the slow starts and

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<v Speaker 7>to begin in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they're preparing for.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know what, if you're gonna call Schottenheimer is

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<v Speaker 7>the offensive coordinator. He's the offensive coordinator, and he helps

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<v Speaker 7>to share with the game plan. He's part of it

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<v Speaker 7>as well, because because they give him that title and

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<v Speaker 7>it's supposed to be setting up your game plan, setting

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<v Speaker 7>up the structure of it, and it hasn't been good

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<v Speaker 7>enough either.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean he.

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<v Speaker 7>Goes up there every every week with the coordinators and

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<v Speaker 7>he talks. He should be part of it too, play caller, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>but also the structure of the offense just doesn't doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>seem like it's working right now.

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<v Speaker 9>And it seems like it's inability to adjust the defensive schemes.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel like I notice that a lot, But I

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<v Speaker 9>don't think it's just McCarthy. I think there's also position

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 9>coaches and O see. I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>responsibility that they need to evaluate across the board.

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<v Speaker 10>The whole staff has to wear right and it falls

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<v Speaker 10>on Mike McCarthy because he is a play caller. And

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<v Speaker 10>there are some decisions like I completely disagreed with going

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<v Speaker 10>away from the run in the first half, like we

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<v Speaker 10>talked about yesterday, after that the board had touchdown, they

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<v Speaker 10>ran the ball one time for no game. You can't

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<v Speaker 10>do that if you're wanting to win a football game.

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<v Speaker 10>I understand you're in a two score hole, but it's

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<v Speaker 10>two score you still got two and a half quarters

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<v Speaker 10>of football left to play.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to try.

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<v Speaker 10>And I understand mixing things up that you need to

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<v Speaker 10>establish the run because otherwise teams are just gonna drop

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<v Speaker 10>seven eight defensive backs back into coverage and that's what's

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<v Speaker 10>gonna happen. The turnovers five turnovers. First of all, you're

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 10>not gonna win a game turn the ball over five times.

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 10>But it's extremely hard to move the ball down Fiel

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<v Speaker 10>and you've got to throw against eight guys. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I would say play calling is a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 10>But there's more issues than that too.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you think they're well, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's obviously at the end of the day, the head

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<v Speaker 6>coach has to be accountable, the offensive play caller has

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<v Speaker 6>to be accountable, the defensive caller play caller has to

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<v Speaker 6>be accountable.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's just a part of it.

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 6>Like that's you can't be in a position of leadership

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<v Speaker 6>and then not be accountable for whatever happens. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>work because ultimately you have some say in it, regardless

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 6>how much say, you have some say in whatever's being done.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I think they certainly have to I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>saying anything. I don't think they would say. I think

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<v Speaker 6>they all would agree they have to be accountable to

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<v Speaker 6>this as well, and they to figure out answers. And

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's why Mike said I'll be here all

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<v Speaker 6>this break because he's got to figure it out.

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 5>Like that's a part of the job that comes with

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<v Speaker 5>the dinner.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're going to be the head coach, you're going

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 6>to be the offensive guy, and offensive unitism isn't playing well.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to figure it out. And so I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's certainly false to him. I think it's a little

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<v Speaker 6>grayer though, and this is my next question. I think

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 6>it's a little more of a gray area when we

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<v Speaker 6>start talking about the defense, primarily because I think last

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<v Speaker 6>year the problem that we saw coming into the offseason

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 6>last year was Dallas is having a hard time consistently

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 6>stopping the run against really really physical teams. Teams have

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 6>physical running games, they have a hard time doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>We're seeing the same thing this year. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>how much I can attribute that to Yes, he has

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<v Speaker 6>to take some accountability. I don't know how much I

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 6>give Mike Zimmer versus the personnel, because it starts with

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<v Speaker 6>I think, as we talked about a little earlier, are

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 6>they being able to hold up at the point of attack?

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Are they not getting pushed back?

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<v Speaker 6>Are they protect linebackers so the linebackers can flow to

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 6>the ball and pursue. If you're not getting that from

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 6>your players, I'm not sure what a coordinator can necessarily

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 6>do to change that. Do you how much of the

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<v Speaker 6>blame do you put on Mike Zimmer for the challenges

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<v Speaker 6>of the defense.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's split between personnel and coaching, and I

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 10>say that because when you look at last week against

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 10>the Lions and what's Mike Zimmers talked about this week,

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 10>Cowboys are really struggling to tackle. They can't bring guys down,

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 10>and you know you'll be You can't have one guy

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 10>tackling every play, right. You need to get guys to

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 10>the ball. You need to get more caps to the ball.

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 10>Detroit had over one hundred yards rushing after contact alone.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 4>Last week.

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<v Speaker 10>You can't do that. You have to bring guys to

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 10>the ground. Doesn't matter what kind of running game you're playing,

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 10>how physical the opposing team is playing. If you can't tackle,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 10>the guys are going to run all over you and

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 10>throw all over you. So I think that's problem number

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 10>one with this defense because that's the run game, that's

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 10>the pass game. They had over one hundred yards after

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 10>the catch too against Detroit, or Detroit did against the Cowboys,

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 10>excuse me. So it really starts with tackling, I think

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 10>for me, amongst other things like stopping the run. But

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 10>if you can't get guys down, they're just gonna keep running,

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 10>They're gonna keep scoring.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 4>This is the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I hate to throw out all the excuses, but

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 7>with the defense with the injuries like that, it's not

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 7>even an excuse anymore.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just reality.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 7>And you know, in that game against the Lions, I mean,

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 7>I think I said it to you, Derek. I would

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 7>argue their two best pass rushers and their two best

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 7>run stoppers are both out of the game, and their

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 7>their best playmaker in the secondary and Deron Blant. Your

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 7>two best pass rushers I thought were Micah and Tank,

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 7>and your best run stoppers are Tank and Eric Hendricks.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 7>You lose that stuff in one game. It is It

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 7>is tough, I mean, and that that that's the snowballs everything.

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 7>So I have a hard time just putting it all

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 7>on Zimmer when Zimmers got here to do this job.

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 7>And I mean, you just can't lose your top four

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 7>defensive ends and that's what how and the top four

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 7>ends are all out, and I mean, it just wipes

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 7>your your your depth chart and you're playing with guys

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 7>that wouldn't even be in the league. There's a there

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 7>was a picture I saw this on Twitter. Y'all might

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 7>have seen this or that showed the front seven. None

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 7>of these players were on this team like in the

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 7>playoff game or you know last year. None of the

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<v Speaker 7>seven out there, and then the secondary only hooker was

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<v Speaker 7>the only one that was there from last year. Just

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<v Speaker 7>look at overshown and look at the you know, look

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<v Speaker 7>at Tyrus Wheat and I mean like it goes on

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<v Speaker 7>and on with Lynvald Joseph. A lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 7>weren't even here at camp.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's what do you expect?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, Zimmer's it's a tough job and it's his

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<v Speaker 7>job to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 5>But man, it's a tough situation asked for him, definitely.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and the continuity, like you said at both y'all's points,

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<v Speaker 9>the miss tackles, getting off the blocks, I mean all

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<v Speaker 9>those different things. I think the personnel and the coaches

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<v Speaker 9>and what the new defensive coordinator. I think it's everyone's

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<v Speaker 9>trying to get in a rhythm. So if you've got

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<v Speaker 9>new players and you got a new defense, I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>everything has to kind of settle in. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 9>we're in October, but still I think that's part of

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<v Speaker 9>the injuries.

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<v Speaker 4>Very depth.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, right, we're gonna take our final break. We

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<v Speaker 6>will come back. Interesting question I have for you guys,

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<v Speaker 6>who do you think the Cowboys have missed more. If

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<v Speaker 6>you could get one of these guys back, Michael Parsons,

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<v Speaker 6>DeMarcus Lawrence to Ron Bland or Eric Kendricks. Who's been

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<v Speaker 6>missed more and who they need us. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna lie scared at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick a bet or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't bet here in the NFL friendly.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no betting allowed in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll do them for money, right, for money. Danny

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<v Speaker 2>mccra and I have.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you're talking about something, just like something you have

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<v Speaker 5>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>We could probably come up with something fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We could come up with some fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm down with that. I feel pretty confident about

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<v Speaker 6>what we got going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see how all.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, let's let's finish the show off, right. Here's my

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<v Speaker 6>question for you guys, who's been missed more? Michael Parsons

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<v Speaker 6>to Marcus Lawrence, Deron Bland, Eric Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll start Micah Parsons. Let me think about it, Michael Parsons,

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<v Speaker 7>you need more time. No, I think he I think

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<v Speaker 7>he just say he wrecks the game when he when

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<v Speaker 7>he's when he's on his game. Now, it's not always perfect.

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<v Speaker 7>With him in as far as you know when they're

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<v Speaker 7>running the ball. But I think I think for the

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<v Speaker 7>most part he is a just a dynamic, catalytic player

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<v Speaker 7>that they they've missed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go with Michael Parsons there.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna be the odd man out because Mike is

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<v Speaker 10>the easy answer, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's it's the correct right.

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<v Speaker 10>All four of those players you mentioned are correct answers,

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<v Speaker 10>But I think Eric Kendricks is the guy that you

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<v Speaker 10>miss the most because he's your tackling machine, right Like,

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<v Speaker 10>he just sits in the middle of that defense and

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<v Speaker 10>he just eats guys up, makes all the tackles you need.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think that is one of, if not the

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<v Speaker 10>most glaring issue with this Cowboys defense. If you get

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<v Speaker 10>your leading tackler back, if you get the guy who's

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<v Speaker 10>gonna fly around and get guys to the ground, things

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<v Speaker 10>are gonna slowly but surely get easier.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. So I'm going with Eric Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I had Eric Kendricks as well, obviously all of them,

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<v Speaker 9>but Kendricks Green Dot. He you know, he really knows

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<v Speaker 9>Zim's defense, so he really is great leadership as well.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think he was really missed and the tackling

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<v Speaker 9>of course. Micah, Yes, but I've talked about just this

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<v Speaker 9>Lions game. I know it's a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendricks out well, and they're both should be coming back.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if Michael be back for this forty

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<v Speaker 7>nine er game, but like, like, if you seriously though,

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<v Speaker 7>if you're if you're like, hey, it just came out

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<v Speaker 7>that he's out for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who? Right?

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<v Speaker 7>The question was if that was the question, he's out

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<v Speaker 7>for the season, it was like, Kendricks or Micah, you really?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, of course, Mike, here's what I know, Here's

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<v Speaker 6>what I know last year.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd rather take my chances with Mike and being here

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<v Speaker 7>and figure out middle linebacker.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna be good. It's not gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, But I just I look at last year and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, the hell they were in when it came

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<v Speaker 6>to linebackers last year, we saw what that looked like.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think you want to go back to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Quite frankly, I would even say, if you could give

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<v Speaker 6>me Kendricks and DeMarcus, I'd be okay with that. If

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't get Michael back. Now again, Mike is one

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<v Speaker 6>of the best players in the National Football League On

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<v Speaker 6>the defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>He makes plays. I love that. I'm also thinking, like.

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<v Speaker 6>How can I keep from getting embarrassed like a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of this was like in this game against Detroit. Can

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 6>I get a defense out there that can just hold it?

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 6>I don't even be special. I don't need him to

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<v Speaker 6>be the eighty five Bears. I need him to be

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<v Speaker 6>able to play solid defense. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 6>give me Kendricks, you give me DeMarcus, I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>more going to give me a solid defense. Michael will

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<v Speaker 6>have the ability to make those splash plays, but I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if the defense will be as solid if

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<v Speaker 6>I just have him and I don't have a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 6>say to be able to replace Eric Kndrick.

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<v Speaker 7>If you've lost Kendricks, you probably lose them both because

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<v Speaker 7>as much as he would hate it, they might have

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 7>to move Micah to linebacker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't hate it.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's what makes Michael special is that you can

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<v Speaker 6>put him up there on the on the line where.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be playing.

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<v Speaker 7>I think in any scheme in the NFL, he should

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<v Speaker 7>be playing three four outside linebackers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, three four.

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<v Speaker 14>Second.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, ok, yeah, right, right, be all right, he wouldn't

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 7>be the worst. But yes, but he's not than Clark.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, but he's not gonna be He's not.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think he will give you the same level

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 6>of dynamic plays he makes from the defensive ambasition.

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<v Speaker 7>No, but I'll say this that forty nine Ers middle

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 7>linebacker seems to make a lot of plays he does.

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 7>Fred Warner, you know everything. I think he's one of

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<v Speaker 7>the best players in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree.

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean he is an outstanding player Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 9>I think, yeah, he stays on track. Tommy, you mentioned

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 9>some before we came on. You said, even before Micah

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 9>was out in tank, how was the defense doing. You

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 9>made a great point with that, Yeah, struggling.

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I get it.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 10>You like, you know, it's early in the season. You're

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 10>learning a new system with Mike Zimmer. That's why Eric Kendrick,

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 10>I think you made a good point biding Jill is

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 10>saying that he's been in zimmer system when he was

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 10>in Minnesota, and that's going to translate to right. But

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 10>that also doesn't take away from the fact that you

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 10>don't want one of the best players in the league,

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 10>one of the best playmakers for your defense and one

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 10>of the more veteran guys on your defensive line pack, right, Like,

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 10>it doesn't change that fact at all.

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 6>That New Orleans game, they had everybody except for Deron Blay.

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe there's an argument to be made that not having.

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 6>Deron Bland makes a difference for this defense, makes a

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 6>big difference for this team, absolutely, you know.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I also think that the safety position has not

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 7>been as good as it has been in the past,

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 7>and that could be a trickle down effect for all

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 7>of the past rush and all that. It's a lot

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 7>easier to play safety when it's just one to throw,

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 7>you know. But but we've seen them that for that

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 7>Saints game you're talking about. I remember, this is the

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 7>deep ball right down the middle domin Wilson and and

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 7>and Malik Hooker and all that. I don't think this

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 7>has been a good year for for Hooker. I don't

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 7>think he's he's played that that great this season. And

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 7>you know, I know there's Marquis Bell and Janie Thomas

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 7>there as the backup. I don't know if they'll make

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 7>a change there, but the safety position has struggled, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think it is a product of of you know,

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<v Speaker 7>not having not having.

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<v Speaker 2>The pass rush like it's like it's been.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I mean they could also be a part of

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<v Speaker 6>not having Bland too. The safeties have a little different responsibilities.

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 6>When you've got a rookie over there, you got to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of take care of it, and there are things

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<v Speaker 6>you got to be aware of there. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of factors. And to be quite honest

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<v Speaker 6>with you, I would be very interested in seeing what

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Zimmer can do if he had a full contingent

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 6>of players, if he didn't have, like he's working without

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 6>some of some of the most important players at some

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 6>of the most important positions, and and it just it

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<v Speaker 6>just makes me wonder, like how much better could this

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<v Speaker 6>defense be if he had all of them out there

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<v Speaker 6>and we got to see that.

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<v Speaker 7>You're probably just getting Bland back this week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't. I don't know, Mike, I'm you don't think

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<v Speaker 7>I We'll see. He's tough to read. Body language is

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<v Speaker 7>really hard with him.

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<v Speaker 6>Gas where he gets up from whatever happened and you're

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<v Speaker 6>like is he okay? And then he's like fine, or

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 6>they come out to get him. He's hurt, he goes

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<v Speaker 6>up his siland we're like, oh wow, it's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 6>and then two plays later back in there and making

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<v Speaker 6>a sack.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever know, I was surprised when he was even out,

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<v Speaker 2>like cool, he'll be back. He's not going to miss

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<v Speaker 2>up a chance to get sacks.

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<v Speaker 9>Help, he's back for the fortys.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'd want to be too.

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<v Speaker 3>They need him, Yes.

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 4>They want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm with you. And he was on the chords

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<v Speaker 2>last week at practice, so.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't think he looked great on the chords.

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 7>But then again, it's hard to figure out. You know,

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 7>he's got that one speed and that's when he's rushing

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<v Speaker 7>in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>Just so people know when you say on the cords,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 6>he's working with the trainer Britt Brown, right, we're doing

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 6>cord work.

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<v Speaker 5>Typically, yes, go ahead.

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 7>Typically that that's a sign of it's the return is

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<v Speaker 7>sooner than later. So I'm not sure what happened. Then again,

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, sometimes he's guys do have a little bit

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 7>of setback. We saw it with dron Bland. You know,

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 7>it looked like he was trending to come back and

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<v Speaker 7>then it just didn't work. So hopefully there's no setbacks

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 7>and this is a good week for the Buy to

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 7>get get these guys back.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, let's wrap up this conversation with this final

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 6>big picture question. What do you need to see most

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 6>from this team coming out of the bye.

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Wins?

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 5>That's a loaded question. What gets them to the wins?

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 5>What characteristic?

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 6>What thing do they need to improve on the most

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 6>in order coming.

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Out of the buy for them to have getting healthy

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 5>as the season goes.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 2>They had to take away the ball. They they're not

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>getting the.

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<v Speaker 6>Foot well, Zimmer told us when he came in that

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<v Speaker 6>was probably going to be less in this defense. But

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<v Speaker 6>you also wouldn't be giving up big plays.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 7>Okay, well all right, and they're they're doing that. They're

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 7>giving up big, big plays, big plays. So they need

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 7>the ball. You know, the ball matters. As Jason Garrett

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 7>you still always say, so take care.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 10>You did say that they've got to play better at

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 10>the line of scribbage both sides. Offensive lines got to

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 10>play better, Defensive lines got to play better, because that

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 10>is what sets up everything else. Talked about it yesterday,

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 10>every level of football. If you can't win in the trenches,

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 10>you're not going to win a lot of football games.

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 4>That's the case.

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 9>There's true touchdowns. I'm tired of field goals and Aubrey

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 9>being m v P so getting in the end zone,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 9>red zone problems all that.

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 3>What's the biggest challenge with the red zone offense.

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 7>I think it's what Tommy just said about pushing people back.

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, you say it all the time.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 7>When it's the balls on the seven, eight nine yard line,

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 7>you just don't feel like they can run the ball

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 7>in and it has to and then that's where it

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 7>gets tough.

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and you're throwing interceptions.

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 7>All yeah, I mean like like it's it's got to

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 7>be you know, it's you just like to have a

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 7>little bit more balance. But running the ball there and

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 7>and also you know Jake Ferguson, that's where a tight

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 7>end usually kind of in the play, and he hasn't

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 7>done that, uh, to the to the level that I

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 7>thought he would maybe take that that leap he did

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 7>get hurt.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 11>Uh.

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 7>He's had a couple of good games, I think, though,

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 7>to take it to the next level, he's got to

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 7>be dominant there in the red zone.

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 9>I'd love to see him more in the Niners game.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 9>For Yeah, I think I'll make a big difference. Yeah,

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 9>I really you mentioned that yesterday too.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I really think the run game is the piece

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 6>that that has been missing that makes the red zone

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.439
<v Speaker 6>so much harder. Is if you got guys that don't

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.400
<v Speaker 6>aren't respecting the running game, Uh, then it makes a

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 6>lot easier for them all that guy in the zone

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 6>and make it very very tough this warterback to find

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 6>an open spot.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 7>And I'll say this, this has nothing to do with

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 7>the with the Lions and this I know a lot

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 7>of what the Lions were doing was I feel like

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 7>it was jabs at the Cowboys with the tackle eligible.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 7>But that's what they do. That's the type of football

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 7>that that they they play. Why not do that for

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 7>the Cowboys?

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Why not?

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 7>Why not have awesome richards earlier in the game reporting eligible,

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 7>have a little bit more, you have some defensive linement.

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 7>It takes, big strong guys up front. They know you're running.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 7>But that's okay. I'm okay with that. I just think

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 7>they need a little bit bigger bodies in there.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, We appreciate you guys. Has been a fun,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 5>fun mixed week.

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<v Speaker 6>We make sure real quick, everybody, you're you're over at

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 6>gross stock boys stock, Nick, you're at storyline.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I wasn't doing that. I was just like, what's

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the storyline. I wasn't doing the hooks.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, get a storyline. Care about that? You

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 5>can't do that.

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I got three longhorns. That's not what it was. Nothing

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 2>to do with the longhard. No, it's not.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 5>All right, get yourself in order, okay.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 6>And Tommy's gonna be floating around. He's gonna we're gonna

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 6>put him on some different stuff. You might ever come

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 6>over to the break a little bit. I keep fighting

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 6>with Nick. I'm trying to pull him over there, and

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 6>Nick's like he's got things to do.

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 5>So maybe I'll win at some point and I can

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 5>get you over the break a little bit more frequently.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:27.879
<v Speaker 5>All Right, We appreciate you, guys, Jones.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll be back next week in our normal shows, normal

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 6>times to then for Nick Eating, Tommy Yarsh and Bonnie

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<v Speaker 6>Jill Laughlin. Thank you guys for joining us in the

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<v Speaker 6>breakun on Dallas Cowboys dot comray.

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