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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, October sixteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 6: episode number fifty. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 5: So it's a good time for us take a little break.

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Speaker 5: Its good time for everybody to take a break.

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Speaker 6: Go to your corners and uh and let's just see

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Speaker 6: where we where we land come one day getting ready

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Speaker 6: for San Francisco. There was a lot of news around

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Speaker 6: the NFL yesterday. There was a bevy of of moves

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Speaker 6: that were happening, big moves, teams trading wide receivers Davante

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Speaker 6: Adams Mari Cooper both being traded to to other teams.

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Speaker 6: Jerry made it clear earlier this week. And and I

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Speaker 6: know Nick, you've you've seen this report, but uh, he

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Speaker 6: made it clear earlier this week that they're not going

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Speaker 6: to be expecting to be players in this you know,

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Speaker 6: whatever is going to happen before.

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Speaker 5: The trade deadline.

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Speaker 6: Here's the question I have for you guys, because as

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Speaker 6: I started thinking about this, I think there are kind

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Speaker 6: of two ways you can look at this.

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Speaker 5: What's more valuable to this.

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Speaker 6: Team draft capital or a big time player that they

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Speaker 6: could possibly go out and trade for that they think

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Speaker 6: would change the trajectory of where they are this season

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Speaker 6: and where they can go.

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Speaker 9: I think a big player just because for for draft pick,

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Speaker 9: it's because you still have to develop the player. If

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Speaker 9: we want impact right now and be able to go

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Speaker 9: somewhere with this team, I think it's now is the time,

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Speaker 9: which means getting a big player off season I.

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Speaker 7: Would say I would say draft capital because if you

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Speaker 7: get the player, it's and I've said this, if you're

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Speaker 2: Be here longer than a year.

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Speaker 7: So if you're going to just rent the player for

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Speaker 7: this year, I don't know, especially receiver receiver stuff. They

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Speaker 7: don't they don't always come in right and understand what

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Speaker 7: you know, the terminology and all this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 7: So how much how long are you getting the player

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Speaker 7: for it? Like you know, I think what made it

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Speaker 7: work for the Jets. I don't know about Mark Cooper,

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Speaker 7: but words for the Jets is that that terminology that

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Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers uses and in the connection he's got with

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Speaker 7: the Van Adams. I think that they can maybe speed

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Speaker 7: up that process. But for me, knowing what they're gonna

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Speaker 7: have next year is gonna be you know, they just

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Speaker 7: They need as Mets draft picks as they can get.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, Nick.

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Speaker 10: I think my philosophy in general is just you build

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Speaker 10: through the draft, right, it doesn't matter where you are

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Speaker 10: as an organization. That capital is so important because you

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Speaker 2: Know y'all never agree with me.

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Speaker 4: I think we're pretty across the board.

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Speaker 10: To wrap that up, like having the younger guys building,

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Speaker 10: you think about the young guys that are already playing

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Speaker 4: Looking at a really solid veteran group.

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Speaker 2: But how long do we have to wait for that?

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Speaker 7: And that's that's that's that's always the problem, And that's

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Speaker 7: the thing. Like, and I think there are some teams, like,

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Speaker 7: I think Buffalo's four and two, they look like a

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Speaker 7: I mean, and I think that where they are right now,

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys, I think have more than one piece right

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Speaker 7: now that they would need. True And that's where that's

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Speaker 7: why I think for the Cowboys, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's and that's I guess where I want

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Speaker 6: to go with this is when you look at this team,

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Speaker 6: where are the areas that you would say they need

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Speaker 3: Like, what are those positions right now?

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Speaker 10: that's you know, not to take a shot at anybody

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Speaker 3: Game, actually moving backwards exactly.

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Speaker 10: They are getting pushed and that can't happen. You know,

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Speaker 10: you need an anchor in the middle of that defensive line.

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Speaker 10: I think os has had some really good games this year.

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Speaker 10: Maybe use that one of those early round picks on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so that's that's where the Cowboys are picking. Huh,

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Speaker 7: early round, you've already got it.

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Speaker 10: Okay, eround, I'm trying to get me in trouble.

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Speaker 4: It was his first or second round pick.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm with you. I was with you. I was like,

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Speaker 7: You know what I wonder, you know, we don't see

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Speaker 7: this in practice? Because you said they don't get any push.

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Speaker 7: They don't get any push. I could I make the

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Speaker 7: same argument about the offensive line. So my question is

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Speaker 7: who wins out in practice?

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Speaker 5: What did you see a training camp?

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Speaker 7: I mean they well, they don't really, It's not like

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Speaker 7: and the defensive line is getting pushed back. So in practice,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I want to know, is that like a

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Speaker 7: good back, good like battle out there, good matchup. It's

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Speaker 7: in practice, I bet they're like a good day.

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Speaker 2: We had a good day.

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Speaker 7: It was back and forth, it was really good competitive,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm with both of y'all, both the defensive line

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Speaker 2: There's pieces that we need.

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Speaker 7: I said that on this last show to the storyline,

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Speaker 7: since you had me do a double dip, I'll say

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Speaker 7: that's fine, you know, Yeah, but here's here's there Travis

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that guy, but yeah, that'd be great.

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Speaker 6: But here's also the thing, like they I know, right,

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Speaker 6: are they? I don't think that because I don't even

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Speaker 6: They've paid one guy steal that they're going.

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Speaker 2: To keep in there.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're moving him out of there, but

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Speaker 6: that's that's been an area where they've had some inconsistencies.

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Speaker 6: Zach Martin ain't going anywhere for this year, but there's

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Speaker 6: developing them. And obviously the left guard's the best offensive lineman.

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Speaker 6: I say, if you were going to look at a position,

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Speaker 6: Is running back in that mix, is wide receiver in

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Speaker 6: that mix? But the question becomes, is there a single

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Speaker 6: player that you go out and spin draft capital on

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Speaker 6: that all of a sudden, Now your team goes from

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Speaker 6: where they are right now, where they're three and three,

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Speaker 6: and everybody's kind of like, I don't know, the wills

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Speaker 6: really compete in the NFC against the better teams in MC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: To me that that position is usually a defensive end,

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Speaker 7: a position a player that can just come in a

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Speaker 7: wreck a game, and I don't know if they're going

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Speaker 7: to do that. That's a lot of draft capital and

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Speaker 7: to go get certain guys that are.

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Speaker 2: I would love that though.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be great, and Michael Park would love

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Speaker 7: that too, because they keep losing. You keep losing, you know,

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Speaker 7: pass rushers, but I just don't there's not a lot

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Speaker 7: of positions you could say that guy changes a lot.

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Speaker 7: It's usually you know, maybe a great cornerback would or.

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Speaker 5: A great receiver would.

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Speaker 6: But I think that's also the thing, like you give

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Speaker 5: The running game may not be great.

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Speaker 7: I do not agree with that at premise. I think

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Speaker 6: I just unless you're the starving man who just got

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Speaker 7: What's impressive of the four yards to carry is that

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Speaker 6: for the defense. But that being said, I do think

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Speaker 6: Rico is the guy that if you committed to him

443
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Speaker 6: as being the guy that was going to get the

444
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Speaker 6: majority of the touches, and you use the other backs

445
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Speaker 6: to spell him when he needs to be spelled, rather

446
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Speaker 6: than I'm gonna take this series and run somebody else

447
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Speaker 6: out there, or whatever the case might be.

448
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Speaker 5: I think if you did that, I think you'd.

449
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Speaker 6: Probably get more out of your running game than what

450
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Speaker 6: you're getting right now. Again, may not be great, but

451
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Speaker 6: it certainly I think will be serviceable for this offense

452
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Speaker 6: and right now what they need and they need right now,

453
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Speaker 6: they need just a respectable running game where defenses are like,

454
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Speaker 6: we have to.

455
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Speaker 5: At least respect it right now? They don't, right all right.

456
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Speaker 6: I don't think many defenses are, and I think that's

457
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Speaker 6: part of what you're seeing in the passing game and

458
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Speaker 6: the struggles there. I don't think defenses think about the

459
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Speaker 6: running game is something that can hurt them. You said,

460
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Speaker 6: A thirteen yards the most you've gotten on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's no juice there, Yeah, right, all right.

462
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Speaker 6: Next question I have for you, guys, jal and Toba

463
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Speaker 6: continue to be the wide receiver to when Cooks returns?

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Speaker 7: No, yeah, I said no, I say no to that

465
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Speaker 7: but this is okay because you're second and your third receiver,

466
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Speaker 7: like they play a lot, and I'm fine with with that.

467
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Speaker 7: There's not like it's the the third guy now is

468
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Speaker 7: creeping into like to change all that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, would it be Brooks I mean or

470
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Speaker 2: or yeah, Brooks Turpin.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Turpin's kind of a unique player, so he's

472
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Speaker 7: doing yeah, and he's still gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do all that, right, So it doesn't that's not gonna change.

474
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Speaker 7: So no, I mean, receiver two receiver three, that's not

475
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Speaker 7: a huge difference for me. So I would probably put

476
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Speaker 7: Cooks back into the into the same role. But I

477
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Speaker 7: think they got to use Cooks differently.

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Speaker 5: But that's the question.

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Speaker 6: Have you seen an appreciable difference in the offense without

480
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Speaker 6: cooks versus with.

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Speaker 9: Cooks have four red zone targets? I mean, I know

482
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Speaker 9: obviously cooks have been yeah, hurt, but doesn't.

483
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Speaker 7: He I Again, I think the point I'm making is

484
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Speaker 7: Jalen Brooks. I don't need Jalen Brooks to take any

485
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Speaker 7: of the theirs away. So it's fine if it's gonna

486
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Speaker 7: be Cooks. It's too Tolbvert is too. That doesn't really

487
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Speaker 7: matter because I think three guys still play a lot.

488
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Speaker 7: So those are the three, doesn't It doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of like cornerback, where if it doesn't matter

490
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Speaker 7: who's the start, second, third, they're all gonna play. So

491
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Speaker 7: I that's fine, it's not it's not the fourth guy

492
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Speaker 7: though that I don't think Cooks goes to the fourth spot.

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Speaker 2: So if he's the.

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Speaker 7: Three, that's fine. You still need them. You still need

495
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Speaker 7: to get him down the field more though. Don't run

496
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Speaker 7: the routes they've been running with him. Get him a

497
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Speaker 7: little bit more vertical, which is what we're seeing with

498
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Speaker 7: Tolbert too, to make a place when he can see

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Speaker 7: the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, messy man, so messy.

502
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Speaker 4: He's on one today?

503
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Speaker 5: Is today his whole life? Yea, his whole life.

504
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Speaker 9: But it's no emotion, just looked especially.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.

506
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Speaker 5: I kind of miss it, but I don't like.

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Speaker 14: You got to.

508
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Speaker 10: Like that.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm with you.

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Speaker 10: I think that the gap between two and three is

511
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Speaker 10: not as large as maybe some folks think it is.

512
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Speaker 4: I think Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 10: Obviously brings you that veteran experience, and he's been in

514
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Speaker 10: the offense for quite some time now. But Jalen Tolbert

515
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Speaker 10: shown you that he can give you wide receiver to production. Right,

516
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Speaker 10: it's not consistent, but he should you that he can

517
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Speaker 10: do it. And so if that means, you know, you

518
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Speaker 10: you lessen your targets to him, but he makes them

519
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Speaker 10: count and that third wide receiver spot and you're getting

520
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Speaker 10: Brandon involved. Your offense is going to be fine. This

521
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Speaker 10: is an offense we know it is going to throw

522
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Speaker 10: the ball around a lot. So the more options you've

523
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Speaker 10: got to throw it to that are reliable and that

524
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Speaker 10: you've seen play reliable for you this year.

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Speaker 7: I think the better the irony there of the you know,

526
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Speaker 7: because everyone saw it and that Brandon Cooks has really

527
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Speaker 7: been one of the big reasons that Jalen Tolbert has

528
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Speaker 7: matured as a player and maybe even as a as

529
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Speaker 7: a person. I mean, he's a he's a great leader

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Speaker 7: for that locker room, and he took Tolbert under his

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Speaker 7: wing from the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of I right.

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Speaker 7: Because like he gets hurt, he comes back, he's like,

534
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Speaker 7: do they even need coox? You know you got Tolvert now,

535
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Speaker 7: you know, it's like.

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, he was a young you know, I'm

537
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Speaker 2: I'm the Jedi night. You know, I got him. I

538
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Speaker 2: got him up here. Now all of a sudden, you're

539
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Speaker 2: just like a you're good.

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Speaker 6: Well, the thing about it is for me, but the

541
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Speaker 6: thing about it for Cooks is I think Cooks is

542
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Speaker 6: better than what the Cowboys, than how they use him.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I.

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Speaker 6: Think you should be able to if you look at

545
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Speaker 6: his career, what he's been able to produce at every stop.

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Speaker 6: I just don't think Dallas is getting that out of him.

547
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Speaker 6: And I don't think that's about his skill level at

548
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Speaker 6: this point. I think for whatever reason, he's just not

549
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Speaker 6: getting the same kinds of opportunities that he once did.

550
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Speaker 6: And maybe Dallas just isn't using him in the way

551
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Speaker 6: that he can do more things than just kind of

552
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Speaker 6: be your guy. That this stretches the field. I think

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Speaker 6: Cavante Turpin can do that for you. I think Brandon

554
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Speaker 6: Cooks has a deeper skill level than that, and I

555
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Speaker 6: just don't know that they're using it in that way.

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Speaker 9: You know what's funny, Derek, that you say over and

557
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Speaker 9: over again I've heard is that the usage like Rico Cooks,

558
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Speaker 9: like we're not using our players to the best situation

559
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Speaker 9: setting them up to succeed, right. Well, that's that's which

560
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Speaker 9: is so funny because I've heard that now it's the

561
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Speaker 9: same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 3: That sets up my next question.

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Speaker 6: How much of the ineffectiveness of the offense do you

564
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Speaker 6: guys attribute to the play caller? How much credit or

565
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Speaker 6: how much of that does does Mike McCarthy have.

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Speaker 2: To wear a lot? I mean, that's the preparation.

567
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Speaker 7: We talked about it yesterday of the slow starts and

568
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Speaker 7: to begin in the game.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're preparing for.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, if you're gonna call Schottenheimer is

571
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Speaker 7: the offensive coordinator. He's the offensive coordinator, and he helps

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Speaker 7: to share with the game plan. He's part of it

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Speaker 7: as well, because because they give him that title and

574
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Speaker 7: it's supposed to be setting up your game plan, setting

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Speaker 7: up the structure of it, and it hasn't been good

576
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Speaker 7: enough either.

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Speaker 2: So I mean he.

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Speaker 7: Goes up there every every week with the coordinators and

579
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Speaker 7: he talks. He should be part of it too, play caller, yes,

580
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Speaker 7: but also the structure of the offense just doesn't doesn't

581
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Speaker 7: seem like it's working right now.

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Speaker 9: And it seems like it's inability to adjust the defensive schemes.

583
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Speaker 9: I feel like I notice that a lot, But I

584
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Speaker 9: don't think it's just McCarthy. I think there's also position

585
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Speaker 9: coaches and O see. I think there's a lot of

586
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Speaker 9: responsibility that they need to evaluate across the board.

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Speaker 10: The whole staff has to wear right and it falls

588
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Speaker 10: on Mike McCarthy because he is a play caller. And

589
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Speaker 10: there are some decisions like I completely disagreed with going

590
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Speaker 10: away from the run in the first half, like we

591
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Speaker 10: talked about yesterday, after that the board had touchdown, they

592
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Speaker 10: ran the ball one time for no game. You can't

593
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Speaker 10: do that if you're wanting to win a football game.

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Speaker 10: I understand you're in a two score hole, but it's

595
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Speaker 10: two score you still got two and a half quarters

596
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Speaker 10: of football left to play.

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Speaker 4: You got to try.

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Speaker 10: And I understand mixing things up that you need to

599
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Speaker 10: establish the run because otherwise teams are just gonna drop

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Speaker 10: seven eight defensive backs back into coverage and that's what's

601
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Speaker 10: gonna happen. The turnovers five turnovers. First of all, you're

602
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Speaker 10: not gonna win a game turn the ball over five times.

603
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Speaker 10: But it's extremely hard to move the ball down Fiel

604
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Speaker 10: and you've got to throw against eight guys. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I would say play calling is a big part of it.

606
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Speaker 10: But there's more issues than that too.

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Speaker 6: What do you think they're well, I mean, I think

608
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Speaker 6: it's obviously at the end of the day, the head

609
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Speaker 6: coach has to be accountable, the offensive play caller has

610
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Speaker 6: to be accountable, the defensive caller play caller has to

611
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Speaker 6: be accountable.

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Speaker 5: Like that's just a part of it.

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Speaker 6: Like that's you can't be in a position of leadership

614
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Speaker 6: and then not be accountable for whatever happens. That doesn't

615
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Speaker 6: work because ultimately you have some say in it, regardless

616
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Speaker 6: how much say, you have some say in whatever's being done.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think they certainly have to I'm not

618
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Speaker 6: saying anything. I don't think they would say. I think

619
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Speaker 6: they all would agree they have to be accountable to

620
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Speaker 6: this as well, and they to figure out answers. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's why Mike said I'll be here all

622
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Speaker 6: this break because he's got to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Like that's a part of the job that comes with

624
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Speaker 5: the dinner.

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Speaker 6: If you're going to be the head coach, you're going

626
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Speaker 6: to be the offensive guy, and offensive unitism isn't playing well.

627
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Speaker 6: You got to figure it out. And so I think

628
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Speaker 6: it's certainly false to him. I think it's a little

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Speaker 6: grayer though, and this is my next question. I think

630
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Speaker 6: it's a little more of a gray area when we

631
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Speaker 6: start talking about the defense, primarily because I think last

632
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Speaker 6: year the problem that we saw coming into the offseason

633
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Speaker 6: last year was Dallas is having a hard time consistently

634
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Speaker 6: stopping the run against really really physical teams. Teams have

635
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Speaker 6: physical running games, they have a hard time doing it.

636
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Speaker 6: We're seeing the same thing this year. I don't know

637
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Speaker 6: how much I can attribute that to Yes, he has

638
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Speaker 6: to take some accountability. I don't know how much I

639
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Speaker 6: give Mike Zimmer versus the personnel, because it starts with

640
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Speaker 6: I think, as we talked about a little earlier, are

641
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Speaker 6: they being able to hold up at the point of attack?

642
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Speaker 3: Are they not getting pushed back?

643
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Speaker 6: Are they protect linebackers so the linebackers can flow to

644
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Speaker 6: the ball and pursue. If you're not getting that from

645
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Speaker 6: your players, I'm not sure what a coordinator can necessarily

646
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Speaker 6: do to change that. Do you how much of the

647
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Speaker 6: blame do you put on Mike Zimmer for the challenges

648
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Speaker 6: of the defense.

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Speaker 10: I think it's split between personnel and coaching, and I

650
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Speaker 10: say that because when you look at last week against

651
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Speaker 10: the Lions and what's Mike Zimmers talked about this week,

652
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Speaker 10: Cowboys are really struggling to tackle. They can't bring guys down,

653
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Speaker 10: and you know you'll be You can't have one guy

654
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Speaker 10: tackling every play, right. You need to get guys to

655
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 10: the ball. You need to get more caps to the ball.

656
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 10: Detroit had over one hundred yards rushing after contact alone.

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Speaker 4: Last week.

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Speaker 10: You can't do that. You have to bring guys to

659
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Speaker 10: the ground. Doesn't matter what kind of running game you're playing,

660
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Speaker 10: how physical the opposing team is playing. If you can't tackle,

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Speaker 10: the guys are going to run all over you and

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Speaker 10: throw all over you. So I think that's problem number

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Speaker 10: one with this defense because that's the run game, that's

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Speaker 10: the pass game. They had over one hundred yards after

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Speaker 10: the catch too against Detroit, or Detroit did against the Cowboys,

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Speaker 10: excuse me. So it really starts with tackling, I think

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Speaker 10: for me, amongst other things like stopping the run. But

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Speaker 10: if you can't get guys down, they're just gonna keep running,

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Speaker 10: They're gonna keep scoring.

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Speaker 4: This is the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I hate to throw out all the excuses, but

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Speaker 7: with the defense with the injuries like that, it's not

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Speaker 7: even an excuse anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's just reality.

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Speaker 7: And you know, in that game against the Lions, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think I said it to you, Derek. I would

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Speaker 7: argue their two best pass rushers and their two best

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Speaker 7: run stoppers are both out of the game, and their

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Speaker 7: their best playmaker in the secondary and Deron Blant. Your

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Speaker 7: two best pass rushers I thought were Micah and Tank,

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Speaker 7: and your best run stoppers are Tank and Eric Hendricks.

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Speaker 7: You lose that stuff in one game. It is It

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Speaker 7: is tough, I mean, and that that that's the snowballs everything.

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Speaker 7: So I have a hard time just putting it all

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Speaker 7: on Zimmer when Zimmers got here to do this job.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, you just can't lose your top four

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Speaker 7: defensive ends and that's what how and the top four

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Speaker 7: ends are all out, and I mean, it just wipes

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Speaker 7: your your your depth chart and you're playing with guys

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Speaker 7: that wouldn't even be in the league. There's a there

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Speaker 7: was a picture I saw this on Twitter. Y'all might

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Speaker 7: have seen this or that showed the front seven. None

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Speaker 7: of these players were on this team like in the

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Speaker 7: playoff game or you know last year. None of the

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Speaker 7: seven out there, and then the secondary only hooker was

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Speaker 7: the only one that was there from last year. Just

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Speaker 7: look at overshown and look at the you know, look

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Speaker 7: at Tyrus Wheat and I mean like it goes on

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Speaker 7: and on with Lynvald Joseph. A lot of these guys

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Speaker 7: weren't even here at camp.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's what do you expect?

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Speaker 7: I mean, Zimmer's it's a tough job and it's his

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Speaker 7: job to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: But man, it's a tough situation asked for him, definitely.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and the continuity, like you said at both y'all's points,

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Speaker 9: the miss tackles, getting off the blocks, I mean all

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Speaker 9: those different things. I think the personnel and the coaches

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Speaker 9: and what the new defensive coordinator. I think it's everyone's

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Speaker 9: trying to get in a rhythm. So if you've got

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Speaker 9: everything has to kind of settle in. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 9: we're in October, but still I think that's part of

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Speaker 9: the injuries.

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Speaker 4: Very depth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right, we're gonna take our final break. We

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Speaker 6: you could get one of these guys back, Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence to Ron Bland or Eric Kendricks. Who's been

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Speaker 3: Get Texas speak in.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little scared.

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Speaker 3: We could come up with some fun.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm down with that. I feel pretty confident about

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Speaker 3: So we'll see how all.

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Speaker 6: Right, let's let's finish the show off, right. Here's my

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Speaker 6: question for you guys, who's been missed more? Michael Parsons

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Speaker 6: to Marcus Lawrence, Deron Bland, Eric Kendricks.

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Speaker 7: I'll start Micah Parsons. Let me think about it, Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 7: you need more time. No, I think he I think

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Speaker 7: he just say he wrecks the game when he when

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Speaker 7: he's when he's on his game. Now, it's not always perfect.

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Speaker 7: With him in as far as you know when they're

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Speaker 7: running the ball. But I think I think for the

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Speaker 7: most part he is a just a dynamic, catalytic player

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Speaker 7: that they they've missed.

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Speaker 2: So I go with Michael Parsons there.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna be the odd man out because Mike is

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Speaker 10: the easy answer, and.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's it's the correct right.

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Speaker 10: All four of those players you mentioned are correct answers,

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Speaker 10: But I think Eric Kendricks is the guy that you

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Speaker 10: miss the most because he's your tackling machine, right Like,

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Speaker 10: he just sits in the middle of that defense and

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Speaker 10: he just eats guys up, makes all the tackles you need.

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Speaker 10: And I think that is one of, if not the

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Speaker 10: most glaring issue with this Cowboys defense. If you get

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Speaker 10: your leading tackler back, if you get the guy who's

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Speaker 10: gonna fly around and get guys to the ground, things

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Speaker 10: are gonna slowly but surely get easier.

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Speaker 4: Right. So I'm going with Eric Kendricks.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I had Eric Kendricks as well, obviously all of them,

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Speaker 9: but Kendricks Green Dot. He you know, he really knows

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Speaker 9: Zim's defense, so he really is great leadership as well.

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Speaker 9: So I think he was really missed and the tackling

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Speaker 9: of course. Micah, Yes, but I've talked about just this

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Speaker 9: Lions game. I know it's a huge difference.

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Speaker 2: Kendricks out well, and they're both should be coming back.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if Michael be back for this forty

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Speaker 7: nine er game, but like, like, if you seriously though,

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Speaker 7: if you're if you're like, hey, it just came out

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Speaker 7: that he's out for the season.

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Speaker 2: You know who? Right?

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Speaker 7: The question was if that was the question, he's out

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Speaker 7: for the season, it was like, Kendricks or Micah, you really?

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Speaker 6: I mean, of course, Mike, here's what I know, Here's

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Speaker 6: what I know last year.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather take my chances with Mike and being here

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Speaker 7: and figure out middle linebacker.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be good. It's not gonna be good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But I just I look at last year and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, the hell they were in when it came

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Speaker 6: to linebackers last year, we saw what that looked like.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you want to go back to that.

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Speaker 6: Quite frankly, I would even say, if you could give

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Speaker 6: me Kendricks and DeMarcus, I'd be okay with that. If

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Speaker 6: I didn't get Michael back. Now again, Mike is one

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Speaker 6: of the best players in the National Football League On

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Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: He makes plays. I love that. I'm also thinking, like.

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Speaker 6: How can I keep from getting embarrassed like a lot

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Speaker 6: of this was like in this game against Detroit. Can

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Speaker 6: I get a defense out there that can just hold it?

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Speaker 6: I don't even be special. I don't need him to

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Speaker 6: be the eighty five Bears. I need him to be

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Speaker 6: able to play solid defense. And I think if you

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Speaker 6: give me Kendricks, you give me DeMarcus, I think that's

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Speaker 6: more going to give me a solid defense. Michael will

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Speaker 6: have the ability to make those splash plays, but I

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Speaker 6: don't know if the defense will be as solid if

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Speaker 6: I just have him and I don't have a linebacker,

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Speaker 6: say to be able to replace Eric Kndrick.

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Speaker 7: If you've lost Kendricks, you probably lose them both because

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Speaker 7: as much as he would hate it, they might have

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Speaker 7: to move Micah to linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate it.

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Speaker 6: But that's what makes Michael special is that you can

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Speaker 6: put him up there on the on the line where.

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Speaker 2: You should be playing.

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Speaker 7: I think in any scheme in the NFL, he should

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Speaker 7: be playing three four outside linebackers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, three four.

881
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 14: Second.

882
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, ok, yeah, right, right, be all right, he wouldn't

883
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 7: be the worst. But yes, but he's not than Clark.

884
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean, but he's not gonna be He's not.

885
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: I don't think he will give you the same level

886
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 6: of dynamic plays he makes from the defensive ambasition.

887
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 7: No, but I'll say this that forty nine Ers middle

888
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 7: linebacker seems to make a lot of plays he does.

889
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: Fred Warner, you know everything. I think he's one of

890
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 7: the best players in the NFL.

891
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 5: I agree.

892
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: I mean he is an outstanding player Hall of Famer.

893
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 9: I think, yeah, he stays on track. Tommy, you mentioned

894
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 9: some before we came on. You said, even before Micah

895
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 9: was out in tank, how was the defense doing. You

896
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 9: made a great point with that, Yeah, struggling.

897
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I get it.

898
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 10: You like, you know, it's early in the season. You're

899
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 10: learning a new system with Mike Zimmer. That's why Eric Kendrick,

900
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 10: I think you made a good point biding Jill is

901
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 10: saying that he's been in zimmer system when he was

902
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 10: in Minnesota, and that's going to translate to right. But

903
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 10: that also doesn't take away from the fact that you

904
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 10: don't want one of the best players in the league,

905
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 10: one of the best playmakers for your defense and one

906
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 10: of the more veteran guys on your defensive line pack, right, Like,

907
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 10: it doesn't change that fact at all.

908
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 6: That New Orleans game, they had everybody except for Deron Blay.

909
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe there's an argument to be made that not having.

910
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 6: Deron Bland makes a difference for this defense, makes a

911
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 6: big difference for this team, absolutely, you know.

912
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I also think that the safety position has not

913
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 7: been as good as it has been in the past,

914
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 7: and that could be a trickle down effect for all

915
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 7: of the past rush and all that. It's a lot

916
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 7: easier to play safety when it's just one to throw,

917
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 7: you know. But but we've seen them that for that

918
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 7: Saints game you're talking about. I remember, this is the

919
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 7: deep ball right down the middle domin Wilson and and

920
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 7: and Malik Hooker and all that. I don't think this

921
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 7: has been a good year for for Hooker. I don't

922
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 7: think he's he's played that that great this season. And

923
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 7: you know, I know there's Marquis Bell and Janie Thomas

924
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 7: there as the backup. I don't know if they'll make

925
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 7: a change there, but the safety position has struggled, and

926
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 7: I think it is a product of of you know,

927
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 7: not having not having.

928
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: The pass rush like it's like it's been.

929
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean they could also be a part of

930
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 6: not having Bland too. The safeties have a little different responsibilities.

931
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: When you've got a rookie over there, you got to

932
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 6: kind of take care of it, and there are things

933
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 6: you got to be aware of there. So I think

934
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 6: there's a lot of factors. And to be quite honest

935
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 6: with you, I would be very interested in seeing what

936
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 6: Mike Zimmer can do if he had a full contingent

937
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 6: of players, if he didn't have, like he's working without

938
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 6: some of some of the most important players at some

939
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 6: of the most important positions, and and it just it

940
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 6: just makes me wonder, like how much better could this

941
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 6: defense be if he had all of them out there

942
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 6: and we got to see that.

943
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 7: You're probably just getting Bland back this week. I mean,

944
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 7: I wouldn't. I don't know, Mike, I'm you don't think

945
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 7: I We'll see. He's tough to read. Body language is

946
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 7: really hard with him.

947
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 6: Gas where he gets up from whatever happened and you're

948
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 6: like is he okay? And then he's like fine, or

949
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 6: they come out to get him. He's hurt, he goes

950
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 6: up his siland we're like, oh wow, it's going to happen,

951
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 6: and then two plays later back in there and making

952
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: a sack.

953
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Ever know, I was surprised when he was even out,

954
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: like cool, he'll be back. He's not going to miss

955
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: up a chance to get sacks.

956
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 9: Help, he's back for the fortys.

957
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: I think you'd want to be too.

958
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: They need him, Yes.

959
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: They want to.

960
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm with you. And he was on the chords

961
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: last week at practice, so.

962
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 5: He was a good thing.

963
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 7: But I don't think he looked great on the chords.

964
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 7: But then again, it's hard to figure out. You know,

965
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 7: he's got that one speed and that's when he's rushing

966
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 7: in the past.

967
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 6: Just so people know when you say on the cords,

968
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 6: he's working with the trainer Britt Brown, right, we're doing

969
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 6: cord work.

970
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 5: Typically, yes, go ahead.

971
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 7: Typically that that's a sign of it's the return is

972
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 7: sooner than later. So I'm not sure what happened. Then again,

973
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: you know, sometimes he's guys do have a little bit

974
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 7: of setback. We saw it with dron Bland. You know,

975
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 7: it looked like he was trending to come back and

976
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 7: then it just didn't work. So hopefully there's no setbacks

977
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 7: and this is a good week for the Buy to

978
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 7: get get these guys back.

979
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 6: All right, let's wrap up this conversation with this final

980
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 6: big picture question. What do you need to see most

981
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 6: from this team coming out of the bye.

982
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: Wins?

983
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: That's a loaded question. What gets them to the wins?

984
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 5: What characteristic?

985
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: What?

986
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: What thing do they need to improve on the most

987
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 6: in order coming.

988
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: Out of the buy for them to have getting healthy

989
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: as the season goes.

990
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: They had to take away the ball. They they're not

991
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: getting the.

992
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 6: Foot well, Zimmer told us when he came in that

993
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 6: was probably going to be less in this defense. But

994
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 6: you also wouldn't be giving up big plays.

995
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 7: Okay, well all right, and they're they're doing that. They're

996
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 7: giving up big, big plays, big plays. So they need

997
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 7: the ball. You know, the ball matters. As Jason Garrett

998
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 7: you still always say, so take care.

999
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 10: You did say that they've got to play better at

1000
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 10: the line of scribbage both sides. Offensive lines got to

1001
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 10: play better, Defensive lines got to play better, because that

1002
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 10: is what sets up everything else. Talked about it yesterday,

1003
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 10: every level of football. If you can't win in the trenches,

1004
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 10: you're not going to win a lot of football games.

1005
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 4: That's the case.

1006
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 9: There's true touchdowns. I'm tired of field goals and Aubrey

1007
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 9: being m v P so getting in the end zone,

1008
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 9: red zone problems all that.

1009
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: What's the biggest challenge with the red zone offense.

1010
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 7: I think it's what Tommy just said about pushing people back.

1011
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 7: I think, you know, you say it all the time.

1012
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 7: When it's the balls on the seven, eight nine yard line,

1013
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 7: you just don't feel like they can run the ball

1014
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 7: in and it has to and then that's where it

1015
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 7: gets tough.

1016
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you're throwing interceptions.

1017
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 6: You know.

1018
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 7: All yeah, I mean like like it's it's got to

1019
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 7: be you know, it's you just like to have a

1020
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 7: little bit more balance. But running the ball there and

1021
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 7: and also you know Jake Ferguson, that's where a tight

1022
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 7: end usually kind of in the play, and he hasn't

1023
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 7: done that, uh, to the to the level that I

1024
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 7: thought he would maybe take that that leap he did

1025
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 7: get hurt.

1026
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 11: Uh.

1027
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 7: He's had a couple of good games, I think, though,

1028
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 7: to take it to the next level, he's got to

1029
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 7: be dominant there in the red zone.

1030
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 9: I'd love to see him more in the Niners game.

1031
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 9: For Yeah, I think I'll make a big difference. Yeah,

1032
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 9: I really you mentioned that yesterday too.

1033
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I really think the run game is the piece

1034
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: that that has been missing that makes the red zone

1035
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 6: so much harder. Is if you got guys that don't

1036
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 6: aren't respecting the running game, Uh, then it makes a

1037
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: lot easier for them all that guy in the zone

1038
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 6: and make it very very tough this warterback to find

1039
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 6: an open spot.

1040
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1041
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 7: And I'll say this, this has nothing to do with

1042
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 7: the with the Lions and this I know a lot

1043
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 7: of what the Lions were doing was I feel like

1044
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 7: it was jabs at the Cowboys with the tackle eligible.

1045
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 7: But that's what they do. That's the type of football

1046
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: that that they they play. Why not do that for

1047
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 7: the Cowboys?

1048
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: Why not?

1049
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 7: Why not have awesome richards earlier in the game reporting eligible,

1050
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 7: have a little bit more, you have some defensive linement.

1051
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1052
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 7: It takes, big strong guys up front. They know you're running.

1053
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 7: But that's okay. I'm okay with that. I just think

1054
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 7: they need a little bit bigger bodies in there.

1055
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.

1056
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 5: All right, We appreciate you guys. Has been a fun,

1057
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 5: fun mixed week.

1058
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 6: We make sure real quick, everybody, you're you're over at

1059
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 6: gross stock boys stock, Nick, you're at storyline.

1060
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: Sorry, I wasn't doing that. I was just like, what's

1061
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: the storyline. I wasn't doing the hooks.

1062
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 5: Oh my god, get a storyline. Care about that? You

1063
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 5: can't do that.

1064
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: I got three longhorns. That's not what it was. Nothing

1065
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: to do with the longhard. No, it's not.

1066
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: All right, get yourself in order, okay.

1067
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 6: And Tommy's gonna be floating around. He's gonna we're gonna

1068
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 6: put him on some different stuff. You might ever come

1069
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 6: over to the break a little bit. I keep fighting

1070
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 6: with Nick. I'm trying to pull him over there, and

1071
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 6: Nick's like he's got things to do.

1072
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 5: So maybe I'll win at some point and I can

1073
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 5: get you over the break a little bit more frequently.

1074
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 5: All Right, We appreciate you, guys, Jones.

1075
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 6: We'll be back next week in our normal shows, normal

1076
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: times to then for Nick Eating, Tommy Yarsh and Bonnie

1077
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: Jill Laughlin. Thank you guys for joining us in the

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Speaker 6: breakun on Dallas Cowboys dot comray.

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