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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace available now only on Fox Nation.

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Speaker 1: The body of this little boy, his remains a little

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Speaker 1: eleven year old child, Gannon Stock, have been found far

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Speaker 1: far from home in Florida. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: It was a road construction worker who found the remains Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Investigators aren't releasing any details about how the boy died.

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Speaker 1: They say he was killed in Colorado and then taken

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Speaker 1: to Florida. I asked how finding a body can help

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Speaker 1: with an investigation. Senior District Deputy District Attorney Michael Allen

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Speaker 1: said there's really evidence on a body. He wouldn't go

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Speaker 1: into specifics about the case, but did say Gannon's family

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Speaker 1: is taking things very hard. Obviously, they're distraught with this information.

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Speaker 1: They were still holding out hope that Gannon would come

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Speaker 1: home alife, despite the original charges that we followed in

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Speaker 1: this case. And they're struggling, and they rightfully would be,

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Speaker 1: considering the circumstances of this case. It's tragic and we

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said at the beginning, our hearts

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Speaker 1: go out to them. I mean, see Grace, this is

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. You were

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Speaker 1: just hearing our friend Lance Hernandez at ABC seven News, Denver.

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Speaker 1: But joining me right now an a list panel to

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Speaker 1: break it down and put it back together again. Wendy Patrick,

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Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author red Flags at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com.

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Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger thirty six years, SATTLPD, twenty two years homicide

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Speaker 1: author Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer. You can find him. Cloyd

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Speaker 1: Steiger dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of

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Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Face on Amazon. Joseph Scott Morgan Psychologists

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Speaker 1: joining us from Manhattan. Karen Stark at Karen Stark dot com,

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Speaker 1: Crime Online dot com. Investigative reporter Lee Egan with inside information,

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Speaker 1: but right now to our special guests, joining us from

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Speaker 1: Fox thirty one, Denver. Or This is Nicole Fierro. Nicole,

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Speaker 1: let me start with a very narrow question. Explain to

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Speaker 1: was found. We have all been searching for Gannon and

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Speaker 1: now the result not what we had hoped for at all,

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Speaker 1: not the outcome we had wished and prayed for. This

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Speaker 1: understand a row construction worker found his body. Nicole. What

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Speaker 1: happened absolutely and as he said, not what anyone was

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Speaker 1: we did the math. We were calculating how far away

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Speaker 1: they found what they believe is a Gannon's body. Our

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Speaker 1: describing the intense search throughout Gannon's home state of Colorado

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Speaker 1: straight out to Joseph Scott Morgan. It's so important when

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Speaker 1: handle that crime scene, Joe Scott, why so important? Because

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Speaker 1: You have to be on target with everything that you do.

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Speaker 1: Let me remind you I told you the story once before.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Gannon wasn't murdered in Florida. Gannon had to

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Speaker 1: it's Nicole Fierro, Reporter Fox thirty one, Denver. The timeline

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Speaker 1: day it just he just didn't seem right. He just

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Speaker 1: seemed like something was bothering him or hurting him. He

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Speaker 1: just didn't seem the same kid from Sunday. So according

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Speaker 1: to the neighbor, he gotta take into account this. The

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Speaker 1: defense will bring this up. I'm sure that the neighbor

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Speaker 1: didn't know the Stock family, but he was comparing the

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Speaker 1: little boy playing and jumping around and having fun to

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Speaker 1: the way he saw them on the last day, who

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Speaker 1: was seen alive. Something was wrong that he looked like

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Speaker 1: he was drugged, you know. To Joseph Scott Morgan, death investigator,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you look at somebody, you go they're stoned.

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Speaker 1: Nobody has to tell you the person's stoned. They look stoned.

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Speaker 1: I can't really describe it. There's a blank stare in

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Speaker 1: their face. I just I can't describe it. Or when

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Speaker 1: somebody's high on crack, you, I mean, all the years

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Speaker 1: I prosecuted, I knew when somebody's high on crack. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's very obvious. When somebody's high on methamphetamine, it's wow.

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Speaker 1: You can look at somebody until if they have been

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Speaker 1: on meth for a long time, their appearance gives it away.

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Speaker 1: I can't describe it, Joe Scott, but I know it

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Speaker 1: to be true. This neighbor says, the little boy looked

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Speaker 1: like he was drugged. What does that tell you, Joe Scott, Well,

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Speaker 1: it tells me that he's observing this child, and he's

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Speaker 1: paid so much attention. He can see that the behavior

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Speaker 1: has changed, Nancy, and this behavior that this child is

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Speaker 1: exhibiting is not compatible with his norm of the child.

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Speaker 1: The child is probably normally vibrant. He sees the child

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Speaker 1: moving about, but for some reason, the child looks disoriented.

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Speaker 1: He's just not hisself. And so yeah, it stands out.

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Speaker 1: It stands out to us in the field, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: You know when we like you mentioned, when we're questioning people,

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Speaker 1: but you know, in everyday terms, and you don't expect

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Speaker 1: a child to behaving this way. If you're out and

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Speaker 1: you're interviewing people on the street, they're involved in a

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Speaker 1: negative lifestyle, it's not so surprising. But for a child

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Speaker 1: out in the yard, yeah, it's shocking and it's something

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Speaker 1: you would remember. For those of you just joining us,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us here at crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Part of being a prosecutor, an investigator, a reporter shrink,

465
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Speaker 1: a forensic shrink is taking the blow when a case

466
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Speaker 1: doesn't turn out the way you hoped. That is what

467
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Speaker 1: has happened in our search for this little boy, Gannon

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Speaker 1: Stock Take a listen now to Denver Fox thirty one.

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Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, this is our friend,

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Speaker 1: Nicole Fierro. Deputies in Florida reported that a construction crew

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Speaker 1: found a juvenile's remains while working near the Escambia River

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Speaker 1: Bridge in Santa Rosa County, Florida. Calculating the distance from

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Speaker 1: Gannon and Latitia Stout's home, that's nearly fourteen hundred miles

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Speaker 1: a twenty plus hour drive. Something leads them to believe

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Speaker 1: the body was in this area of Florida on February

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Speaker 1: third through the fifth. She wasn't arrested until March second

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Speaker 1: in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. That's nearly seven hundred miles

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Speaker 1: from this Florida location where Gannon was tentatively found. That's

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Speaker 1: a ten hour drive or a three hour flight. Wh

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Speaker 1: Queen February third and her arrest March second, she spoke

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Speaker 1: one on one with me. She never did say where

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Speaker 1: she was, but called several times and sent a number

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Speaker 1: of emails. From February eleventh to the last one. On

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Speaker 1: February twenty fourth, Letitia Stout tells me she feels the

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Speaker 1: need to fill in some gaps in the investigation. On

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Speaker 1: the twelfth, we release this statement she sent me talking

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Speaker 1: about Gamon's disappearance and the impact it yet again had

488
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Speaker 1: on her crime stories with Nancy Grace. Ever since news

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Speaker 1: broke that Gannon's body was found in Florida, we've been

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Speaker 1: inundated with inquiries from the press and the public. This

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Speaker 1: will address only what has taken place as a result

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Speaker 1: of that development. In this case, as I've said in

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Speaker 1: the past we will not try this case in the media.

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Speaker 1: Today I filed new formal charge is in the case

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Speaker 1: against Letitia Stout. Those charges are murdering the first degree

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Speaker 1: after deliberation, a class one felony that carries a potential

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Speaker 1: prison sentence of life in prison without parole. In addition

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Speaker 1: to that, I've filed eight counts of crime of violence

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Speaker 1: for the alleged use of a firearm, a blunt instrument,

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Speaker 1: a knife or other sharp object, and for causing the

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Speaker 1: death of Gannon Stout. These new charges are added to

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Speaker 1: the original four charges that we originally filed in this case.

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Speaker 1: You are hearing our friend, the District Attorney in El Paso,

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Speaker 1: the Senior DA, Michael Allen. Formal charges now handed down

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Speaker 1: against Letitia Stout, first degree murder, potential life without parole,

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Speaker 1: eight other charges for firearm, blunt instrument, knife, and the

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Speaker 1: death of little Gannon. Joining me right now, let's go

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Speaker 1: out to Denver. Nicole fee Year A report A fought

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Speaker 1: thirty one? Do we know the cause of death? The

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Speaker 1: cod I mean, I'm guessing it's got to do with

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Speaker 1: a firearm, a blunt object, or a knife. What what

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Speaker 1: are you hearing Nicole. Well, since there is a gag

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00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: order in this case, we are hearing very little right now,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that. But we did hear through

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Speaker 1: that press conference that he believes that Gannon was killed

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Speaker 1: in Colorado. Otherwise they couldn't have put any charges there.

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Speaker 1: They upped charges. They added eight charges of crimes of

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Speaker 1: violence that would be including a firearm or shop a

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00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: sharp object or a blunt object to kill Gannon. And

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Speaker 1: they also added after deliberation murder charge. So they won't

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Speaker 1: say why at all. They say they don't want to

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00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: put this through on the press. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: because it's such a sensitive case. Right now. Everything matters

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Speaker 1: when you're forming the case. They're still asking people for

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: more information. But we do know these charges are huge,

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Speaker 1: and they're added to an additional four charges that we

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Speaker 1: started with. For those of you just joining us, the

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Speaker 1: remains of eleven year old Gannon Stock from Colorado have

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Speaker 1: been found near a bridge Scambia River Bridge Interstate ninety

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Speaker 1: near Pace, Florida. The little boy was found by a

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Speaker 1: Florida Department of Transportation construction crew. Pace is about fifteen

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Speaker 1: miles north of Pensacola. There on the Florida, Panhandle. The family,

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Speaker 1: his father, mother, and little sister are distraught. They had

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Speaker 1: held out hope for another ending right now. The stepmother,

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Speaker 1: Letitia Stock, in custody, straight out to J. Scott Morgan,

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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University. What do the charges tell you? Well, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. Since I started reading these charges,

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Speaker 1: I've really been scratching my head over this. What it

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00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: tells me is that, first off, either this child has

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Speaker 1: multiple injuries that could have been generated by sharp object,

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Speaker 1: a blunt object or firearm, or his body was in

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Speaker 1: such a condition I hate to say this, that they

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Speaker 1: couldn't make a specific determination or they're not willing to

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Speaker 1: release that information. My thought is, and this is this

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Speaker 1: is one other thing I was thinking, was Gannon? Was

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Speaker 1: Gannon tortured? I think is one of the things that

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking as well. Was he subjected to a beating

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Speaker 1: in life, a cutting and then he was shot? And

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00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be very important because where the timeline

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Speaker 1: is concerned, did his injuries, some of the injury that

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Speaker 1: he incurred, did they occur before death, okay, like in

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Speaker 1: a torture scenario, or did some of these things occur

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00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: post mortem after death when he was thrown into this

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00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: estuary that literally flows into the Gulf of Mexico. So

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00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: it's multi layered. Just as the reporter had mentioned, this

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00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: is a very very complicated case. You're dealing with multiple jurisdictions. Yeah,

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00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: as we all know, all you legal legals, a murder

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: can be prosecuted either where the person is killed, As

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Speaker 1: Nicole Fierro from Fox thirty one Denver accurately pointed out,

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Speaker 1: the charges have been brought in Colorado, which tells me.

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Speaker 1: As she also pointed out that they believe the murder

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Speaker 1: occurred on this little boy in Colorado, or charges can

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Speaker 1: be filed where the body is discovered, which would have

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Speaker 1: been in Florida. Colorado has taken the lead, and that

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Speaker 1: tells me a lot. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author red Flags.

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Speaker 1: What do the charges themselves tell you? Yeah, the charges

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: themselves tell me that they have a lot more evidence

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00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: than their sharing with the public, which justifiably is appropriate

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Speaker 1: in a case like this where they're still investigating, and

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Speaker 1: obviously they don't want to compromise the integrity of that investigation.

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Speaker 1: But when you listen to all of the different types

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Speaker 1: of let's call them weapons. You've got guns, knives, sharp objects.

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Speaker 1: It makes you wonder the duration of the unfortunate I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what you want to call it that

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Speaker 1: led to the death, whether it was a beating, whether

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Speaker 1: it was some sort of a prolonged type of an

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Speaker 1: incident that that eventually led to death. It all also

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Speaker 1: leads to why move the body? You know? One of

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Speaker 1: the things that's going to be a good tie in

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00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: is to the folks that found that body. What did

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Speaker 1: they notice first? And how then do we tie that

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Speaker 1: into the charges in terms of what happened where. That's

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Speaker 1: going to be important. And we can only keep it,

584
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Speaker 1: you know, sort of behind the scenes for so long,

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Speaker 1: because as soon as it gets into a courtroom, we

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Speaker 1: will have the benefit of having all these answers, all

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Speaker 1: these questions answered in terms of what exactly happened. Cloyd

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Speaker 1: Steiger thirty six years, Seattle PD twenty two years, homicide

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Speaker 1: author Seattle's Forgotten serial killer, Gary Jane Grant, Cloyd, the

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Speaker 1: charges tell me so much? What about it? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: agree with Joe. That must it must show the time

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Speaker 1: difference and the injuries leading up to the fatal injury.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling they probably may have found the

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Speaker 1: spot it happened forensically to be so sure that it

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Speaker 1: happened in Colorado, or they have some other information. It's

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Speaker 1: just this is exactly, you know, a very complex case,

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Speaker 1: is Wendy said, So they just have to play it

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Speaker 1: close and what about it? Karen Stark, Yeah, I definitely

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Speaker 1: agree with what everybody is saying. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: they are talking about not Florida but Colorado makes you wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, about the whole story that this woman came

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Speaker 1: up with. The stepmother well, I mean it saw clearly alive,

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Speaker 1: because even her own statements are inconsistent. But here's my question.

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Speaker 1: Lee Egan, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, where did

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Speaker 1: the murder occur? If you look at the if you

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Speaker 1: look at the charges, you've got a gun, you've got

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Speaker 1: a knife, if you've got a blunt object mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the formal charges that's not just grabbed out of thin air.

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Speaker 1: They're basing that on what they have learned from the body.

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Speaker 1: So where does a crime like that occur? Where's the

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Speaker 1: blood evidence? Lee Egan? You may have the answer, didn't

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Speaker 1: the stepmother? Letitia Stalk tell you some cockamamee story about

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Speaker 1: taking the quote back roads and she left her cell

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Speaker 1: phone behind on this long journey to go buy a bike,

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Speaker 1: which she never even went in a bike store. She

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Speaker 1: had Gannon with her, but she forgot to take off

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Speaker 1: her Apple Watch. You want to find the crime scene

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Speaker 1: track that Apple watch? Tell me what she told you, Yes, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: she said that there had been some kind of wreck

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Speaker 1: that morning on the twenty seventh, so she decided to

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Speaker 1: take back roads to get I'm not sure Wench played

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Speaker 1: against sports she went to, but she did say she

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Speaker 1: went to a play against sports, but ultimately ended up

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Speaker 1: in Castle Rock, where she planned to buy a bicycle

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Speaker 1: for her husband. The bicycle was never purchased, but that

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Speaker 1: was why she said it took so long that day

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Speaker 1: to get back, because this was some kind of special

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Speaker 1: bike that she had been searching around for online. She

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Speaker 1: said she lived on Craigslist and other places in this

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Speaker 1: particular place in Castle Rock had the special bicycle when

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Speaker 1: she ended up not buying. Did she even go in

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Speaker 1: the story? I don't think so. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: So right there, Number one, get her computer records, cell

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Speaker 1: phone records, tablet records to find out if she ever

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Speaker 1: did those bike searches and get the surveillance video from

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Speaker 1: played against Sam's a the bike store in Castle Rock.

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Speaker 1: She claims she was going to track that Apple Watch

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Speaker 1: all the way through her trek. She intentionally left her

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Speaker 1: cell phone at home so she would not be tracked.

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Speaker 1: That tells me she was either planning to kill him

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Speaker 1: that day in that trip or dispose of his body somehow,

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Speaker 1: but she didn't. The body was disposed of in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Track the Apple Watch people, if you want to find

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Speaker 1: a crime scene. To Nicole Fierro, reporter Fox thirty one, Denver,

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Speaker 1: what happens next? I know she's already attacked. This is

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Speaker 1: the stepmother has already attacked a deputy on the way

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Speaker 1: to the Colorado courtroom to face the murder charges. The

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Speaker 1: deputy had to go to the hospital. So tell me

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Speaker 1: what happens now? What's next? Nicole? Well, now we have

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Speaker 1: another court appearance in April believe it's April fourteenth. Then

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Speaker 1: with the whole coronavirus outbreak, we asked, is this going

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Speaker 1: to have an impact? End? The DA says at this

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Speaker 1: point he does napoly So it's going to continue and

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Speaker 1: we're waiting for that day in court right now. All

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Speaker 1: of the documents are sealed. Our station and another a

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Speaker 1: number of others have tried to find that. We put

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Speaker 1: an appeal to try to get the arrest after David

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Speaker 1: to get anything for the public's knowledge. We are still

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Speaker 1: waiting to hear back on that. But I do want

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Speaker 1: to point out something very interesting. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about that video earlier with the neighbor. In the

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Speaker 1: statement to me, she addresses it and she basically shares

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Speaker 1: what could be an excuse to why we don't see him.

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Speaker 1: She says that he had a side gate key to

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Speaker 1: the side door. She says that what else she said,

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Speaker 1: She said Saturday night he cut his foot. She said

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Speaker 1: that there's plenty of proof on her phone that she

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Speaker 1: had taken a selfie in the truck, that if anyone

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Speaker 1: had any skills, that they could look through the video

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Speaker 1: and show he got out on the other side. Now

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Speaker 1: also sheriffs often about this and they would not give

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Speaker 1: us any information on that. We wait as justice unfalls.

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Speaker 1: And I guarantee you I know one person, Nicole Fierro

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Speaker 1: Fox thirty one, Denver, who will be in that Colorado

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Speaker 1: Springs courtroom April fourteen, as will we Nancy Grace Crime

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Speaker 1: Story signing off goodbye friend,