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Speaker 1: The New York Giants defeat the LA Chargers twenty one

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Speaker 1: to eighteen. Jackson Dart, in his first ever NFL start,

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Speaker 1: walks away with the victory. I am John Schmelt, Tiki

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Speaker 1: Barbra withs in just a moment, Bob Papa still with me.

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Speaker 2: Up here in the booth of MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 1: We are waiting Brian Dable and of course the rest

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Speaker 1: of the Giant players downstairs for all the postgame reaction

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Speaker 1: in Bob All the talk was about Jackson dark getting

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Speaker 1: the start today, and understandably so. But you should never

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Speaker 1: look to one player as being your savior, especially your rookie.

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Speaker 1: And we talked extensively on the pregame show how he

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Speaker 1: was gonna need some help and in this game, Bob

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Speaker 1: he got it. Giants running backs ran for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seven yards in this game. The defense provided two

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Speaker 1: takeaways to return the ball inside the red zone inside

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Speaker 1: the ten yard line in fact of the LA Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So Jackson Dart then added his own little twist with

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Speaker 1: his running ability, some creative passes on the move, and

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Speaker 1: you put all that together, that's the Giants walk away

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Speaker 1: with the upset victory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going against the team that's three and zero.

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Speaker 4: As I said during the broadcast, this is a team

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Speaker 4: that since the start of last year when Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 4: took over leading the NFL, allowing just seventeen points six

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Speaker 4: points per game. They allowed less than twenty points in

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Speaker 4: twelve games over this timeframe. The Giants get twenty one

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Speaker 4: against him red zone. The Giants got a red zone

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Speaker 4: touchdown and two red zone touchdowns in this game. This

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Speaker 4: team was good on third downs since I mean, you

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Speaker 4: went against a really good team with a top flight

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Speaker 4: Abdual Carter jumped off side and then Deontay Banks, I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure what he was doing on that to allow

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Speaker 4: they gave up the fifty four yard touchdown, and you

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Speaker 4: don't dismiss it. But they're gonna make plays. This is

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Speaker 4: a really good team. They're undefeated for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Wando dropping the end zone where he could

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Speaker 4: But that's why the Giants are one and three, right,

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Speaker 4: They're not three and one. However, Jackson Dart used his legs.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, just like any rookie making his first start.

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Speaker 4: He took a couple of sacks in this game that

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Speaker 4: years down the road he's not gonna take. It was

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Speaker 4: Minter's defense. It's the Chargers, and you gotta just love

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Speaker 4: Even at the end of the game, the way Cordell fly,

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Speaker 4: he didn't try to defend that pass to Johnston. He

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Speaker 4: Gillan with that sixty nine yard punt was big for

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Speaker 1: You did what you needed to do. I know they

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Speaker 4: I thought Dexter Lawrence this was his best game, and

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Speaker 4: I mean Brian Burns, you know, with a marquee game

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Speaker 4: to go in there, You're fighting in your weight class. Hey,

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Speaker 4: Cowboys game. You theoretically could be two and two right now,

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Speaker 6: Let's go downstairs now, have some turnovers on defense, but

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Speaker 6: I think young man played well within himself, made a

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Speaker 7: Guys to turn to the rookie, for you to make

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Speaker 8: With the victory at he said, against this team, and

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Speaker 6: Want to know, you know, we closed it out this game.

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Speaker 3: How's it feel for you to get this one?

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Speaker 6: I'm happy, I'm happy. I'm I'm happy to I'm happy

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Speaker 8: Take it all the way?

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Speaker 7: So Jackson's toughness, was there any conversation with the hands

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Speaker 8: Of the game. That was huge?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, huge. Guys played tough, all the guys, not just

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Speaker 15: Big was the game on the ground? From how big

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Speaker 6: The run game was important, control the game, and you

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Speaker 2: Keep getting better.

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Speaker 1: We'll take time out, we'll come back and react. Jackson

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Speaker 16: Touch down Giants.

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Speaker 17: Jackson Guard got a quarterback draft from fifteen yards out

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Speaker 1: The Giants, who have been unfortunately a team that has

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Speaker 2: The stuff that got him.

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Speaker 18: If they are going to whoever they is are going

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Speaker 18: And ultimately, it just feels different. It is different. I

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Speaker 18: because of the season that Jackson Dart is going to have.

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Speaker 18: Think how different the play calling was in the red

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Speaker 18: Who knows? At the right time they got to win today.

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Speaker 1: You know, Bob, he's gonna figure out the you know,

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Speaker 1: he first named Dart the starter, he mentioned it. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we had it in our game open that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: make loose plays.

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Speaker 2: That's how Brian Dabel talked about him.

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Speaker 1: And this game was full of loose plays from Jackson Darts,

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Speaker 1: whether it was scrambles and runs for first downs or scrambles,

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Speaker 1: and then on the way up in the pocket, he's

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Speaker 1: completing passes over the middle. Those loose plays made a big,

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Speaker 1: big difference in this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that we saw more balls thrown

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Speaker 4: in intermediate middle than we did the first three games

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Speaker 4: of the season.

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Speaker 3: He uses his legs to avoid pressure.

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Speaker 4: He could see over the defense and look, you're right,

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Speaker 4: some of these sacks he took. He's gonna look back

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Speaker 4: on it at the end of the year or five

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Speaker 4: weeks from now. He's gonna be like, I can't believe

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Speaker 4: I took those sacks, Like, what was I looking at

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Speaker 4: six of them today?

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Speaker 3: It's just a learning.

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Speaker 4: He walked into three of them, yep, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: didn't move, just stood there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, took them right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And one time he didn't see the hot coming off

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Speaker 4: the edge he got wallat.

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Speaker 3: But all in all, he brought the team life.

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Speaker 4: Even on the fourth and goal, he made a play

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Speaker 4: and Wandell Robinson. I know the safety came in and

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Speaker 4: knocked the ball out, got a catch, but you expect

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Speaker 4: an NFL receiver with two hands on the ball to

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Speaker 4: secure that thing and talk it away and protect it

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Speaker 4: and make sure you don't let that safety nine.

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Speaker 3: So even on that.

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Speaker 4: Play, and that's one of those loose plays, right, That's

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Speaker 4: one of those loose plays.

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Speaker 2: So he had a decision. He could have run that play.

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Speaker 18: He took the better option, which is throwing at the

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Speaker 18: wandel Robinson who had both hands on it, and he

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Speaker 18: dropped it correct. Even though it was technically a pass breakup.

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Speaker 18: You got to catch that in the NFL, you got

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Speaker 18: to secure that. But I think he brings an energy

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Speaker 18: of life. You know, Charlie, Charlie White Senior was on

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Speaker 18: my podcast earlier this week, and you know, his son

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Speaker 18: was the is the oc at Old Miss And you

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Speaker 18: know when we had him on the show, you know,

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Speaker 18: like we were talking about this and he said, I

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Speaker 18: guarantee you Jim Harbaugh is not happy with this quarterback change.

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Speaker 18: They wanted to play the Giants with Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 18: my brother in law, who's a big Chargers fan, he

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Speaker 18: said the same thing. He's like, I'm really nervous now

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Speaker 18: with Darden there because Wilson kind of is in one

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Speaker 18: spot and Jackson dark gave the Giants' abilities to make

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Speaker 18: those loose plays. And look at the Giants on third down, John,

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Speaker 18: the Giants are awful this year on third down.

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Speaker 3: They were seven of fifteen in the game, right almost.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, two or five in the red

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Speaker 1: zone is actually a market improvement of where they were

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Speaker 1: before this.

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Speaker 18: Right, Look, the red zone will improve. They've got to

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Speaker 18: get their operation good down there, better down there. Their decisions,

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Speaker 18: because this was the last one, was an ego decision.

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Speaker 18: It was we are going to run the ball in

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Speaker 18: and Dave's even said it in this press conference press availability.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to run the ball into the end zone.

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Speaker 18: He probably had a there were better options to get

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Speaker 18: a touchdown down there.

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Speaker 3: It just didn't didn't pan itself out.

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Speaker 18: But the fact that they opening drive red zone easy

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Speaker 18: play called touchdown was awesome.

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Speaker 2: They had Darthun's just a playmaker.

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Speaker 1: He makes plays, even if it's maybe not what the

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Speaker 1: play told him it's supposed to be. He'll figure out

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Speaker 1: a way to turn something into a positive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean on that third and ten where I think

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Speaker 4: is where he heard his hamshion because he made like.

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Speaker 3: An awkward move and he stumbled a little bit of

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Speaker 3: his way.

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Speaker 4: But the other thing, you know we talked about is,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Giants, they gave up two big runs,

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Speaker 4: but they were able to force the Chargers, who were

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Speaker 4: a good third down team, to four of twelve in

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Speaker 4: this game. And listen, Brian Burns, Kevon Thibodeau, and Abdul

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Speaker 4: Carter combined for twelve hits on Herbert A statue.

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Speaker 2: Only two sacks does not tell the story.

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Speaker 4: No, because they forced him to check it down, they

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Speaker 4: forced him to throw it early. Some of those incompletions

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Speaker 4: were because he had to get rid of the ball. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and we felt the Giants pass rush have a presence

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Speaker 4: in this game as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: They they get on the field, all three of them together,

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Speaker 18: and it's obvious what Shane Bowen wants to do. Force

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Speaker 18: the opponent's offensive line to block man on man across

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Speaker 18: the board.

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Speaker 2: So Abdul Carter usually is on the on.

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Speaker 18: The center, so he forces the center to have to

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Speaker 18: take him and not double team Decks or whoever, and

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Speaker 18: one of those guys is going to win.

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Speaker 4: And how many how many stunts did they run? One

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Speaker 4: two with Carter and Burns.

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Speaker 1: That's how Burns got his sack on the next to

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Speaker 1: last Chargers drive.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's not fair for an offensive. Now,

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Speaker 4: those guys stunt.

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Speaker 18: Right, you got Decks stunting out and you got a

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Speaker 18: t a t te coming with the inside uh you

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Speaker 18: know loop by Brian Burns and just tracking down justin

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Speaker 18: Herbert who had zero chance on that big third down

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Speaker 18: to make a play.

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Speaker 1: Final one on Dart and Brian Dables asked about this.

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Speaker 1: You have that final third and five, the Giants could

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Speaker 1: have run the ball, forced the Chargers take their last

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Speaker 1: time out. Instead, they decided to throw it, and Davill

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Speaker 1: told us that at some point after the game, Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dort had told him and THEO Johnson had talked about

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Speaker 1: that specific play. I'm guessing against that specific coverage and

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Speaker 1: instead of THEO Johnson continues right across the field, he

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Speaker 1: had him sit down to find that hole in the zone.

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Speaker 1: And that's what he did. An tiki that does show

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Speaker 1: a level of work and commitment to some of the

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Speaker 1: details that you want to see from a.

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Speaker 18: Interesting I've seen that play a lot in the NFL,

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Speaker 18: but it takes a really aware tight end to do this.

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Speaker 18: In fact, the Jacksonville Jaguars with Evan Ingram over the

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Speaker 18: last couple of years, he's no longer there, but it's an.

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Speaker 3: Option route basically.

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Speaker 18: So the tight end just reads whatever the coverage is

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Speaker 18: and so if it's man, he runs across the field,

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Speaker 18: he tries to run away from the linebacker who he

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Speaker 18: has an advantage in coverage on. If it's zone, just

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Speaker 18: find a hole and sit down. And then it's on

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Speaker 18: the quarterback to kind of interpret and read what's happening there.

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Speaker 18: And that's exactly what occurred there. They dropped back into

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Speaker 18: this little shill, this same kind of defense you saw

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Speaker 18: with Darius Slayton catch those two in the curl, You

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Speaker 18: drop back into a shell, You find the void, buy

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Speaker 18: some time to your guys set.

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Speaker 3: And then you and you hit him.

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Speaker 18: Belly made a great catch there and and got it

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Speaker 18: down for the big for huge first down to allow

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Speaker 18: them to ice this game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and the other thing I want to bring up

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Speaker 1: here to guys, we haven't mentioned he yet in the

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Speaker 1: post game, we should and I joked with with the

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Speaker 1: Tiki Bob in the category of the Giants can of

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Speaker 1: nice things, there was bad news in this game. Uh

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Speaker 1: on a free play, Yeah, probably the best offensive player.

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Speaker 1: Not probably, Well, he is the best offense, their best

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Speaker 1: offensive He's one of the best offensive.

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Speaker 3: Players in the league.

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Speaker 18: So it's not even like he might talk about how

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Speaker 18: bad this is for the Giants top five wide receiver.

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Speaker 18: It gives other guys an opportunity. Bo Collins now has

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Speaker 18: got to become more important than Jalen. Hyatt has to

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Speaker 18: find a role that that's meaningful on this team.

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Speaker 3: But losing the league Neighbors, there's no sugar coating it.

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Speaker 18: He is He's a dominant player in this game, and

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Speaker 18: without him, their offense suffers. It loses a massive big playability.

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Speaker 18: And the first thing I thought was, I hate this turf, man.

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Speaker 18: This turf is just it injures so many people over

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Speaker 18: the years, and that look like that, I know, but

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Speaker 18: it just it still feels like it's this turf.

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Speaker 2: And usually it's like a change of direction thing with

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Speaker 2: that right not usually, but.

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Speaker 18: He stopped, he stopped the plant to jump off his

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Speaker 18: right leg. You could see it in the replays. It

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Speaker 18: is buckled. It's just like when you tear your achilles.

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Speaker 18: You see a buckle happen in the musculature, and you

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Speaker 18: just he didn't even try to catch the ball.

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Speaker 2: He just reached immediately for his knee.

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Speaker 3: How you knew what that was?

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Speaker 1: Quick time out. We'll come back here from Jackson Dart again.

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Speaker 1: The Giants with their first victory of this season. They

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Speaker 1: proved the record to one and three defeat the Chargers

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Speaker 1: twenty one to eighteen. We're from Jackson Dart and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the players downstairs. When we return right after this.

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Speaker 19: This is Jackson Dart and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back here on Giants Extra Point. The

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Speaker 1: Giants defeat the Los Angeles Chargers twenty one to.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen for their first victory of the year.

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Speaker 1: Or awaiting Jackson Dart down on the podium to address

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Speaker 1: the media and guys again. Now, the Giants had two

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Speaker 1: New Orleans next week to take on the Saints. They

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Speaker 1: much needed to win. Here against a very very good

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Speaker 1: Chargers team, a team victory for the New York Football

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Speaker 1: Giants and Tiki. We didn't have here for the first segment,

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Speaker 1: and that was kind of the point I was making.

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Speaker 1: We talked about not allowing or forcing Jackson Dart to

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Speaker 1: be a savior as a rookie quarterback, and he got

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Speaker 1: a lot of help from his boys, whether it was

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Speaker 1: the running game, the defenders, the takeaways, take your pack.

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Speaker 18: I gotta tell you, the biggest thing was the offensive line.

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Speaker 18: We didn't mention them. That's a great point. They did

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Speaker 18: not present a problem for the first time and forever.

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Speaker 18: It feels like with this Giants team, Andrew Thomas Healthy

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Speaker 18: is just a difference maker up front. It obviously helped

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Speaker 18: in the run game. You saw him controlling those edges.

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Speaker 18: Camp Scattabho had a couple of big runs out that way.

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Speaker 3: Also in a.

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Speaker 18: Past game, you never really felt that with a four

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Speaker 18: man rush that Jackson Dart was in trouble. Now, as

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Speaker 18: Bob mentioned earlier, he did get caught on one of

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Speaker 18: those those blitzes. That's probably his own blitz That's why

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Speaker 18: he didn't see it coming from the backside. He thought

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Speaker 18: the guy dropping was giving him time and he got crushed.

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Speaker 18: But I like what this offensive line has done. They

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Speaker 18: weren't a conversation point. And it's the first time you

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Speaker 18: can say that in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Because you see the six sack number in you're probably like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, the offense line of the rough day.

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Speaker 2: But they but they didn't. They really didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean there was a couple of them, right, But

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Speaker 4: some of it was coverage, yeah, and some of it

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Speaker 4: I think was not seeing things.

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Speaker 3: And there was one or two of them where he's

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Speaker 3: got to throw it away.

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Speaker 4: And even you know, Russell Wilson came in and took

664
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Speaker 4: one of those sacks and he just looked completely overwhelmed

665
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Speaker 4: right as the pressure was coming up front. But you know,

666
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Speaker 4: how about the fact that the Giants ran it as

667
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 4: well as they did. This is listen, this is a

668
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: defense since the start of twenty twenty four that's giving

669
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Speaker 4: up the fewest points per game, third best third down

670
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Speaker 4: since Jesse Mencher came as the defensive coordinator unto Harbor.

671
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Speaker 4: So a team that had only had twelve games where

672
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Speaker 4: they allowed less than twenty points, right in twelve of

673
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Speaker 4: those games, right, you went in and you scored twenty

674
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Speaker 4: one against him. They only gave up ninety five yards

675
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Speaker 4: rushing a game. Yeah, so like you did it against

676
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Speaker 4: a legit team, you know. And you could tell me

677
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Speaker 4: that Alt went out and Beckton wasn't playing and all

678
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Speaker 4: that others, but I'll tell you the league neighbors got hurt.

679
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

680
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Speaker 3: So you know, right, you did a good job against

681
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Speaker 3: your defense.

682
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Speaker 1: And Bob tip your cap because it was the Giants

683
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: defense that put them in position for ten of those points, right.

684
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Speaker 1: Ten of those points came off of the Drew Phillips

685
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Speaker 1: interception that was a touchdown, and then three points came

686
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Speaker 1: off to Dexter.

687
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Speaker 2: By the way exception.

688
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Speaker 18: That's the important thing to also mention is that the

689
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Speaker 18: Giants have just not been good at turning the ball

690
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Speaker 18: over in the last three years or two years really,

691
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Speaker 18: and to get two turnovers DEXes, which people have been

692
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 18: complaining about his slow start to the season, well he

693
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 18: showed himself today. They had five oh year last year exactly,

694
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 18: he had two today, almost took it into the end zone. Obviously,

695
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 18: it only resulted in three points, which is, you know,

696
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Speaker 18: disappointing when you're on the two yard line or four

697
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 18: yard line after Dex's interception, but the interception was also enormous.

698
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: Drew Phillips hugely aware of what.

699
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Speaker 18: Was happening as that play, that pick play was being diagnosed.

700
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Speaker 18: He got back Justin Herbert just threw it blindly offensive

701
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 18: pass interference and he returns it down into the tight Rhditorio.

702
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: And Bob mccrawl said this during the broadcast. They were

703
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: pressing the wide receivers at the line of scrimmage. When

704
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: you press, see what happens you guy. Guys run into

705
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Speaker 1: each other. In fact, I think a Conkie trip because

706
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: he ran into his tight end who was trying to

707
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Speaker 1: set the pick on the plats.

708
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Speaker 18: That's right, and so you give him credit for understanding

709
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Speaker 18: what was happening. I think also Shane Bowen did things

710
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 18: a little bit differently here.

711
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: He conceded some things.

712
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 18: Justin Herbert was very content to run that bench route,

713
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 18: that little, you know, six to eight yard out route.

714
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 18: They were given it to a conceiving it to him

715
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Speaker 18: and if you're gonna throw it, we're gonna tackle you.

716
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Speaker 18: I think the other big thing, as a put in

717
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 18: addition to with the offensive line that we brought up

718
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 18: this Giants defense tackled better than they have in previous games,

719
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Speaker 18: and they made the stops in front of him. Hell,

720
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Speaker 18: the last play of the game where Cordell Flott gets

721
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 18: in position to tackle Quintin Jefferson right after the catch,

722
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Speaker 18: I think it's Quentin Deffson, maybe Johnson. Quintin Johnson right

723
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Speaker 18: right after the catch. Clock runs out. Game's over. Otherwise

724
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Speaker 18: he gets out of mountains. They have a chance for

725
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 18: hail Mary.

726
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Speaker 4: You know when we look at these games, right, you know,

727
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: you look at it. You want perfect, right, nothing is perfect.

728
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: You know you think about Banks taking a bad angle

729
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: on a third and nineteen and allowing Herbert to run

730
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Speaker 4: for twenty four. Obviously they really, you know, the interior

731
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: did a good job. You can't let Hampton go fifty

732
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Speaker 4: four yards for a touchdown.

733
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Speaker 3: That's a that's a breakdown.

734
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Speaker 4: But you won a game where your longest play from

735
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: scrimmage on offense was eighteen yards, right, right, Yeah, their

736
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: longest play from scrimmage was eighteen yards today.

737
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 3: But you ran the ball. You're stuck with the run.

738
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Speaker 4: Even when scattab who only got two and he's unbelievable

739
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Speaker 4: at getting yards.

740
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Speaker 3: When it looks like there's nothing.

741
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: But the running backs were only a three yards per carry,

742
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: but it didn't matter.

743
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Speaker 8: Didn't matter.

744
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: They had twenty thirty two totes.

745
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: That's what.

746
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: There's thirty two carries for one hundred and seven yards, right,

747
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: that's by the running backs.

748
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: How often do you get to do that? And scagory

749
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Speaker 3: in the game.

750
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of time in this game where Herbert

751
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: wasn't on the field because the Giants were on these

752
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: fourteen play grinding drives.

753
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: The penalty, you get a first down and.

754
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: You could need that now with Neighbor's not playing.

755
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: If the injury turns out to be what the reports are,

756
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna need that running game the rest of the

757
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: year to play that one.

758
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Speaker 18: To your point, to Bob's point there, the Los Angeles

759
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 18: Chargers ran fifty six plays.

760
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Speaker 3: Think about that.

761
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Speaker 2: That's today's NFL fifty six plays.

762
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Speaker 3: The Giants ran.

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Speaker 1: Sixty nine TV the example, I think believe the Cowboys

764
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Speaker 1: ran ninety plays against the Giants in Week two if

765
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Speaker 1: I remember correctly.

766
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Speaker 3: Big difference.

767
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was overtime too, that was overtime as well.

768
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Speaker 2: That's a fair Poe.

769
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Speaker 4: But you know, Peky made a really good point though,

770
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: we know Slayton is a good player. We've seen Wan

771
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: Dell play well. Should have caught that touchdown pass. But

772
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Speaker 4: now there's gonna be a real opportunity here as Dark

773
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: gets more and more familiar with reading coverages and defenses

774
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: and everything else. It's put up or shut up time

775
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: for Jalen Hyatt because he's gonna be asked now to

776
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 4: do some more things and we're gonna find out if

777
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: he can play or not in the National Football League.

778
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Speaker 20: Right.

779
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he needs to replace the leak neighbors,

780
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 4: but they need the collective now to step up in production.

781
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: You're gonna use the tight ends a.

782
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Speaker 3: Little bit more. Speaking of how about the play by

783
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: man hurts on the punt.

784
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Speaker 18: Great play at the end of the great play trips

785
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 18: him up, just barely trips him up and prevents him

786
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Speaker 18: from picking up another twelve.

787
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Speaker 3: To fifteen yards or so.

788
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Speaker 18: Great play by I'm coverage by your backup tight end

789
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 18: and you bring in on short yardage and tight red

790
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 18: zone situations.

791
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Speaker 4: So you know the Giants are gonna need Hyatt to

792
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: finally step up. We're gonna find out. It's put up

793
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: or shut up time for him, and uh everybody's gonna

794
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: have to do a little bit more with no mo

795
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: leaku neighbors, because it's gonna be hard to win games

796
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: on this profile when your longest play from scrimmage's eighteen yards,

797
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: because you're not gonna get two turnovers every game. You're

798
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: not gonna start inside the five yard line twice in

799
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: a game often, so they're gonna have to figure out

800
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: a way using the tight ends and however they readjust

801
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: their passing game. But people are gonna have to step

802
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: up and help because losing neighbors is catastrophic.

803
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, Dabill brought this up to

804
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: you talk about the run game of leaning into that

805
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: you talk about a few times. Jackson Dart's gonna be

806
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: sore this week. Jackson Dort's gonna be sore this week.

807
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was him taking hits to

808
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: the hamstring. I'm not sure which one of those days

809
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: ever referring to. I think it probably is everything. But

810
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: you do wonder now how big of a role at

811
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: least next week Jackson Dark can play in the designed

812
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: run game.

813
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: He can still scramble a little bit.

814
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 21: We saw it.

815
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: He still ran a little bit in the second half, Tiki,

816
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: But you're wonder in that design, we didn't see one

817
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: read option in the entire second half of this game.

818
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 18: True, and they probably could have utilized it, especially on

819
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 18: that drive where they're trying to run out the clock

820
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 18: in the four minute offense and Jim Harball is using

821
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 18: his timeouts. They were they were designing these run dogs

822
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 18: off the edges time after time after time. If you

823
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 18: do one zone read and force them to either sit

824
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 18: back in that or keep it and go around the edge,

825
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 18: then Jackson Dart probably picks up a huge gainer and

826
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 18: ends the game way before they had to.

827
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: And Chicky, you know, from being a young player in

828
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: the league to an older player in the league, young

829
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: guys bounce back a lot quicker.

830
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 18: You feel so much better when you're young than when

831
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 18: you're thirty eight years years old.

832
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: Here, if you think he's gonna give any opportunity now

833
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: to have Russell Wilson come back in and start.

834
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, he's gonna play. I'm

835
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: not saying he's not gonna play. I'm not sectually how

836
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: much he's gonna be able to run. That's all I'm saying.

837
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: All Right, we are with Jackson start at the podium.

838
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: But we do have some players sound from the locker room. Uh, Connor,

839
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: why don't we get Abdul carterp He had a great game.

840
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: He was credited for five quarterback hicks even though we

841
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: did not have a sack. He was certainly disrupted throughout

842
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: the entire game. That's your abdual quarter to talk to

843
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: the media.

844
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: In the locker.

845
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 8: You gotta lock in, you gotta focus.

846
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 11: We gotta see all the things that we did we're

847
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 11: not so good this week, to improve on it and

848
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 11: you better next week's.

849
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: Effect.

850
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 11: Like I'm happy, all I do, all I care about

851
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 11: is winning, So I'm happy about this. But like I said,

852
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 11: just one game. We gotta continue to stack stack and

853
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 11: winning stack days. They've been ready for the next week.

854
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 10: You've had a tight bond with Jackson since you guys

855
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 10: got here the day after your draft. Just curious what

856
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 10: kind of advice you've given them. Heard you've been talking

857
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 10: to them a lot. You guys both go back and forth.

858
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 11: I'll always tell him to stay ready because you never

859
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 11: know what your time that's going off.

860
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: This time that's called and came up for us.

861
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 11: But that's our conversations, making sure we both stay on

862
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 11: top of our game, doing our jobs at the best

863
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 11: of the best.

864
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Speaker 10: Withe somebody had said that you guys were the future,

865
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 10: and you kind of corrected them and said, you guys

866
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 10: are part of the present.

867
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Speaker 3: Future is now.

868
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 20: This is the first time I'm giving up the first

869
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 20: time I'll effect you.

870
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Speaker 12: I'm sure effective, but I feel like we be even

871
00:37:59,640 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 12: more of that.

872
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 8: I feel like we're still missing opportunities out there. But

873
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 8: like I said, we're gonna watch.

874
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 6: The coming out to see what we did wrong.

875
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 9: Did you feel like you were around harder to get

876
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 9: the show?

877
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: Do you think the same?

878
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 22: Think the stage?

879
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 6: Why why are you having such success with.

880
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 23: The like stunts inside coming off yet start?

881
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 8: I get a credit to my teammates.

882
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 11: If somebody does their job at a high level, which

883
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 11: opens it up for me, and if I do my

884
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 11: job opens it up for them.

885
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: So it's like I said, it's a team game.

886
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: It's the best team on.

887
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 24: Any advice, any advice to duckson the next time we

888
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 24: gets an interception.

889
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 11: I feel like did a great job. He was moving

890
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 11: out there and stumbing towards end. But that was a

891
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 11: big time player, you know.

892
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: He psykes me, how many times have we gotten on

893
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: these post game shows to get this to your first year?

894
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: But Bob could attest to this. You know, the Giants

895
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: were banged up on the offensive line. The other team

896
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: ran all these twisting stunts, and the tackles couldn't block anybody,

897
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: and the quarterback was running for the lives of the

898
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: whole game.

899
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: And that's why they only scored eighteen points.

900
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: The shoes on the other foot today the way you're

901
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: hearing Carter talk about how they got after Justin Herbert again.

902
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 18: And then they took advantage of Joe a going down

903
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 18: early in this game with an ankle injury.

904
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: I believe contecting uh being.

905
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 18: Out for this game obviously Rashaun Slater because they's done

906
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 18: for the year early in this game, Uh declus. They

907
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 18: took advantage of it at left tackle and Joe Alt's plays.

908
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 18: In fact, one of those pressures, you know, Abdul Carter

909
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 18: just ran right around him, so speed rushing and have

910
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 18: just speed dip speed rushing and and see you later.

911
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 18: And so you give them credit for taking advantage. Again,

912
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 18: the sack totals aren't there. There was only two of them,

913
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 18: but it doesn't show the impact that they had on

914
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 18: this on this Chargers offense, who up until you know today,

915
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 18: have been one of the most explosive and dominant offenses

916
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 18: in the in the league.

917
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: And so you give them credit because.

918
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: They they they they took, they took what was.

919
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 18: In front of them and forced the Chargers to earn

920
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 18: every little thing. Say for those couple of big plays,

921
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 18: the Chargers had to earn everything that they put out

922
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 18: on this field today.

923
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, I didn't hear anybody I and

924
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: hear anybody qualifying things when Andrew Thomas got hurt. During

925
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 4: the course of seasons, the Giants offensive line got run

926
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: over and they had you know, josh A Zudu or

927
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: other people, ty Phillips or whatever playing left tackle. So

928
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 4: the heck with it man tough against the Giants for years.

929
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, you know how many times in the past, Bot,

930
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: But we sat here going into a game. Oh you know,

931
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: there's starting left tackles out, this guy's banged up, and

932
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: then the Giants get one sacked to the quarterback.

933
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: Those were billion yards.

934
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: And this is the other thing.

935
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: You know, after the Giants drafted Abdul Carter, there were

936
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: people out there that were saying, you know, well, the

937
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: Giant should probably trade cave On Thibodeau.

938
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: Not smart people.

939
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 8: No.

940
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 4: In fact, with the Giants there was they picked up

941
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: his fifth year option because he is a bargain.

942
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 3: Now next year under contract. You know what you do.

943
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: You worry about that two years from now, right but

944
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 4: right now you have the formation of between Dexter, Lawrence Abduall, Carter,

945
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: Brian Burns and cave On Thibodeau.

946
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: If they can all stay healthy. Now you have a

947
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: disruptive group.

948
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: With they two schools or Lee.

949
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: That's the other part of this, right you can use

950
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: those guys because you're up to scores in the fourth quarter,

951
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: which one's last time the Giants.

952
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: Are up two scores the fourth quarter.

953
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 18: DJ Davidson played well too, a couple of pressures, just

954
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 18: quick pressures up beat in the center, and so their

955
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 18: defensive front has been better, I think better today than

956
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 18: they were in the first couple of weeks.

957
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Davis had a good play in that one run play,

958
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: forced Hampton inside on that one round.

959
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 18: But in order for this Giants team to beat some

960
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 18: of the better teams in the league, and again the

961
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 18: Chargers are a good team. But to beat the Eagles

962
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 18: coming in in the upcoming weeks, they're gonna have to

963
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 18: be dominant, uh in that first and second level defensively,

964
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 18: otherwise the team are gonna take advantage.

965
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh hear from Andrew Thomas downstairs. The

966
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: Giants offensive line did.

967
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: Not have Andrew Thomas for a huge fumble recovery.

968
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: That was a huge fumble, absolutely right, So let's hear

969
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: about that and a whole lot more from Andrew Thomas

970
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: after the game.

971
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 11: Why do you think you guys finished this when they've

972
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 11: been so many times where you guys have played in

973
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 11: the game and not finished.

974
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: It made it different today?

975
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 23: And it's just we made those plays today and you

976
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 23: know the previous games we didn't.

977
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 8: That's that's important.

978
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: How do you feel coming out of them? Good?

979
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 8: It was?

980
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 23: It was a tough one fall through. Glad to be

981
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 23: out there with my teammates and continue to improve and

982
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 23: get better so I can help us out.

983
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: What do you think the way Scataboo ran the ball.

984
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 23: Tough as usual? That's just how he is. He brings

985
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 23: that juice star offense and continue to do that.

986
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: There is a blueprint for the Giants to win.

987
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 11: I imagine it to play with the lead and let Burns,

988
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 11: Carter Thibodeau decks key off they had I think they

989
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 11: had twenty quarterback pressures today.

990
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: Is that kind of what you saw today? Is that

991
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: the blueprint?

992
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 23: Yeah, we know our front is dominant, but again selfishly

993
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 23: as office line and I want to be dominant as well.

994
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 8: Like I want us to be out to run the fall.

995
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 23: We want to protect and allow Jackson to get the

996
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 23: ball to the receivers and who knows where our teams

997
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 23: will go from there if we can do that.

998
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 25: How different was the style of offense obviously with him

999
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 25: pe more running quarterbacks? But was it like kind of

1000
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 25: learning that this week and doing it today?

1001
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 23: It was a little different. We've had some Pep runs

1002
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 23: in before. I don't want to work some stuff in

1003
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 23: the offices, and so it wasn't having too much in

1004
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 23: a bdjusin I would say on the adjustment PRIs.

1005
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 8: More. We definitely pick on some front.

1006
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 23: Just morning and Thomas, but obviously was working so I

1007
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 23: would continue to do that.

1008
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: That's Andrew Thomas. So let me set the stage for

1009
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: you here, Johnny. It's thirteen to ten giants, right, We're

1010
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: in the third quarter. There's six twelve to go on

1011
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: the third quarter, and there's an aborted snap, and Andrew

1012
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: Thomas recovers the ball at the Giants one yard.

1013
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: And it was bouncing around a little bit too.

1014
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: By the way, it doesn't show up in the stat sheet, right,

1015
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: But here's what happens. They fail on third and thirteen.

1016
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: Now Jamie Gillen hits a booming, lining sixty nine yard

1017
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: pot drives it. They got eleven yards on the return.

1018
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 4: Of course you're gonna get eleven yards on the return

1019
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: on a sixty nine yard pot.

1020
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: It was a terrible return by still by the way

1021
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: took We took way too long to run all.

1022
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 2: It comes down and makes a big play tackle.

1023
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: So so you go from potentially them having the ball

1024
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: to one yard line and taking the lead in the

1025
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: game to you punting it, covering it, changing the field position.

1026
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: And then on third and six, Phillips gets the interception,

1027
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: returns it to the three, and dart with the shovel

1028
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: pass to THEO Johnson and now you're up. You get

1029
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: the two points, you're up twenty one to ten. If

1030
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: Andrew Domas doesn't recover that fumble, you could be losing

1031
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: in this game seventeen to thirteen. Instead, you play good

1032
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 4: special teams, you make a play on defense, you scoring

1033
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: goal to goal Andrew Thomas, that play might have saved

1034
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 4: this game.

1035
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: We don't have the feature anymore, but that's a good

1036
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: argument for making that the turning point of the game

1037
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: if we had that feature in.

1038
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 18: Oh, I'll tell you it is the turning point at

1039
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 18: the game because that the Chargers kind of took back

1040
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 18: some of the momentum right before half, right the huge

1041
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 18: play to Quinton Johnson, the touchdown that made it a

1042
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 18: one possession game coming into the second half. The Giants,

1043
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 18: you know, they punted, you know twice until that, until

1044
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 18: that situation that Bob's talking about, didn't they get a

1045
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 18: touchdown and all of a sudden they are now back

1046
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 18: in control.

1047
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: So Thomas recovers the fumble, you get a really good

1048
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: punt by Gallon, good coverage, defense, gets a pick, wreturns

1049
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: it inside the five. You score a touchdown. That is

1050
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: the three phases of football. We're helping you win a

1051
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: football game. And Andrew Thomas may have saved the game.

1052
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: We're covering that ball at the one yard all.

1053
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Right, quick time out we're still awaiting Jackson Dart.

1054
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure the trainers and Ronnie Barnes are all over

1055
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: that dude after this game. I was probably taking him

1056
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: so long to get to the podium. Quick time out,

1057
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: we'll be back. Giants defeat the Chargers at twenty one

1058
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: to eighteen.

1059
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan Giants

1060
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: Radio network.

1061
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: We're back Jackson Dart at the podium.

1062
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 8: Jacks, were you surprised that.

1063
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 20: All of that, They've put the ball up and they

1064
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 20: put the trust in you to throw in that situation?

1065
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 19: No, I wasn't, because you know, I wanted the ball

1066
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 19: in my hand, you know, No, I think back on

1067
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 19: the game. Obviously I haven't watched the tape, but you

1068
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 19: know there's mistakes that I made that I want back

1069
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 19: in the passing game and I want to be cleaner.

1070
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 8: So I was. I was grateful.

1071
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 19: You know, they did have the confidence of me to

1072
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 19: you know, give me the ball there, and I just

1073
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 19: knew that situation, you know, the guys out there with

1074
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 19: me that we were going to make a play.

1075
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 8: Your move.

1076
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 26: Nobody else got you out of some tough situations today.

1077
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 8: Would you say that the way you play today is

1078
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 8: kind of a the way you like to balance it

1079
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 8: out in terms of using your legs.

1080
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 19: And also, yeah, I mean I would like to be

1081
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 19: a little bit you know, more efficient in the passing game,

1082
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 19: you know, creating a little bit you know, a few

1083
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 19: more expulsive plays. But you know, they had a really

1084
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 19: good plan for us, so you got to give them

1085
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 19: a ton of credit. And they've played, you know, really

1086
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 19: good defense these past three weeks and we knew that

1087
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 19: coming into this game. And you know, you know, the

1088
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 19: vertical passing game down the field just really just wasn't

1089
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 19: there because of how they played. And you know, they're

1090
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 19: very disciplined, so you know, we were able to take

1091
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 19: some things underneath and you know, things like a little

1092
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 19: sticky in coverage, you know, just try to make some

1093
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 19: players and all that.

1094
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 12: So how will does offense change for you?

1095
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: And overall, if Malak's injury is long term.

1096
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 27: Is heared?

1097
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 19: Obviously prayers to him, you know, I don't we don't.

1098
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 19: I don't think that we know exactly what happened. So

1099
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 19: you know, he's gonna be one of my first phone

1100
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 19: calls to check on him. But Malik is I've said

1101
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 19: it like Malik's one on one. So when you have

1102
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 19: a guy like that on the field, you have all

1103
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 19: the confidence in the world that he can just be

1104
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 19: a dominant game changer. But I thought, you know, you know,

1105
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 19: from that moment, you know, obviously it's really hard scene.

1106
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 19: You know, one of your best friends go down, but

1107
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 19: we were able to to rally and I thought guys

1108
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 19: made some good plays. But you know, obviously, just prayers

1109
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 19: to him and yeah.

1110
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 15: What's kind of the one through your mind and that

1111
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 15: as you watched it. So I'm just on Malik still,

1112
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 15: what was going through your mind in that situation?

1113
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 19: You know, obviously it just hurts, you know, because you

1114
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 19: know it's the worst part of this game is the injuries.

1115
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 19: So you know, you hate to see you know, your teammate,

1116
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 19: your brother go down and look in pain like that.

1117
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 19: But you know, I'm just gonna be praying for him,

1118
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 19: and you know, I got us back through it all.

1119
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 28: You know what it's like, you know what it's like

1120
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 28: to gut and type, Well, what was going through your

1121
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 28: head as you're standing on the sidelines as the clock

1122
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 28: expires and you realize you're getting pad the first time

1123
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 28: holding me.

1124
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 19: I was waiting for the hit zero because you know

1125
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 19: obviously that Dallas game. You know, I in my mind,

1126
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 19: I thought we were gonna have that one. So I

1127
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 19: was just staring at the clock, you know, I was

1128
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 19: waiting for it to countdown. But you know, John running

1129
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 19: was right next to me, and that was a cool

1130
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 19: moment to have with him. And yeah, it was just

1131
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 19: you know, special to get the first one and let's

1132
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 19: just start.

1133
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 9: You know what it's like to as a quarterback to

1134
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 9: get him did and get hit.

1135
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: But could you tell it all from.

1136
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 9: What your guys on defense were doing to justin and

1137
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 9: you know how important was that and getting resulting.

1138
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, I thought our defense, you know, carried us through

1139
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 19: this game. Thought our defense offensive line you know, played

1140
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 19: at you know, a really elite level. And you know

1141
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 19: there's a quarterback when when there's pressure like that and

1142
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 19: there's guys always in the backfield, no matter who you are,

1143
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 19: the game just speeds up. And you know, they have

1144
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 19: a really good team up there and have played really good.

1145
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 19: So you know, our d line knew that they had

1146
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 19: to be play at a dominant level for us to win.

1147
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 19: And just you know, really credit to those guys for

1148
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 19: stepping up and making a lot of plays.

1149
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: With Dable after the games?

1150
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 8: Could you very emotionally?

1151
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 7: You have to know this was a made decision for

1152
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 7: him to go to you, So did that?

1153
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 8: Don you feel how much this meant to him? You

1154
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 8: get this this way?

1155
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1156
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 19: You know, like I said that, we've been really close

1157
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 19: in these past weeks, and it's hard, you know when

1158
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 19: when you feel like you should win, you have plenty

1159
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 19: of opportunities to win, and there's just plays where you know,

1160
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 19: we just didn't make and uh, you know, I think

1161
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 19: everybody just in the locker room feel that way too,

1162
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 19: Like we know that we have really good players on

1163
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 19: our team, so I think it was just, you know,

1164
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 19: this is just a big like confidence builder for us

1165
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 19: as a team to you know, have a win like

1166
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 19: this where it wasn't easy, it wasn't clean, and we

1167
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 19: had to fight, you know, just like the other weeks,

1168
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 19: but this time we finished. So you know, I thought

1169
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 19: our coaches did a really good job. And you know,

1170
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 19: obviously Dave was just excited to get a win.

1171
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 8: Like what was that a race? Like? And what do

1172
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 8: you what do you say to the like would you

1173
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 8: take him?

1174
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 28: Yeah?

1175
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 19: I mean me and Daves just have a special relationship,

1176
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 19: you know, he's he's the guy that believed in me

1177
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 19: from day one, and you know, I think it does

1178
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 19: say a lot. You know that he he made the

1179
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 19: decision and have the confidence in me, and you know,

1180
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 19: even just giving me the ball and those situations on

1181
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 19: that third down to make a play. So, you know,

1182
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 19: I think that when I know that, when you have

1183
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 19: a coach who you know, you know has your back,

1184
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 19: you know, I'm gonna go out there and do everything

1185
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 19: that I can for him to to win.

1186
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 11: What us coming into your your first NFL win, first

1187
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 11: NFL start, coming into the stadium, there were a lot

1188
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 11: of young kids.

1189
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: Andrew Jersey Camp going backwards.

1190
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 8: And Anakin Sky. What does it mean for you.

1191
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 11: To see young kids now emulating you so early in

1192
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 11: your life.

1193
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 19: It's it's really cool because you know, I was one

1194
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 19: of those kids, you know, you know, like Russell Wilson was,

1195
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 19: you know, a guy who you know I had, you know,

1196
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 19: one of his first pairs of cleats when they came out,

1197
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 19: you know, and you know, when you grow up and

1198
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 19: there's guys that you look up to, you you try

1199
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 19: to emulate things. You know, in the backyard when you're

1200
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 19: just playing around, you know, with your friends. So, uh,

1201
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 19: it's cool to see that. You know, it definitely gives

1202
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 19: me a feeling of you know, you just want to

1203
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 19: play really good to make people happy. And and obviously

1204
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 19: when because you know there's a lot of people who

1205
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 19: you know, take time out of their day and and

1206
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 19: take the sacrifice. You know, the tickets are not always

1207
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 19: the cheapest, and you know they're here to support us,

1208
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 19: and I think it just means a lot. You know,

1209
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 19: it definitely means a lot to me to see that support,

1210
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 19: and you know, it makes you definitely go harder.

1211
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 29: Forced off the field for the concussion examining.

1212
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 19: I mean I was pissed. I mean, I don't want

1213
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 19: to see anybody try to sprint seventy yards as hard

1214
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 19: as you can and then you gotta run back and

1215
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 19: get ready for the next play like you're gonna be tired.

1216
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 8: So that's all it was.

1217
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 19: I was just tired, and obviously you just I never

1218
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 19: want to come out.

1219
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 8: Of the game.

1220
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: Yes, Scot's a baller, you know.

1221
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 19: I just think that we play very similar like mentality wise.

1222
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 19: I may be smarter in the open field, are taking

1223
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 19: some hits and whatnot, But uh, when you have a

1224
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 19: guy like that who you know, just kind of brings

1225
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 19: the juice every single day and gives it his all

1226
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 19: the guys around him want to play harder, so and

1227
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 19: then off the field, you know, we just have a

1228
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 19: really cool connection.

1229
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 8: The hamstring.

1230
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 6: How much did you have to fight through pain or

1231
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 6: adjust your game like mid game playing through it?

1232
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 19: And in fact, I really had to adjust my game.

1233
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 19: It's just kind of football like, you know, you're gonna

1234
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 19: take a little bit of a step or you know something,

1235
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 19: You're not gonna feel perfect throughout a game, and you know,

1236
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 19: I'll be just I'll take this week and recover and

1237
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 19: I'll be ready to go.

1238
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: Jackson Dar at the podium after the game. The Giants

1239
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: defeat the Chargers twenty one to eighteen. Player press conferences

1240
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,680
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1241
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. And Bobby talked about that

1242
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: long run where he was tired. They took him off

1243
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: with the concussion. I was thought someone's gonna ask him

1244
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: about the almost stiff arm punch to the side of

1245
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: the helmet hut his way down. Obviously he was healthy

1246
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: after that, thankfully, but and he did say he had

1247
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: to take fewer hits in the open field. Obviously he

1248
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: was getting hit by defenders way too much of this game.

1249
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.

1250
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: I mean, stiff armer is one thing like swiping at

1251
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: a guy's helmet because especially with your throwing hand, I mean,

1252
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 4: you could get your hand caught in the face mask.

1253
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: Anything can happen, right.

1254
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: Tiki, we were talking about early in the second quarter,

1255
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: Giants were on a drive and it looked like on

1256
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 4: it looked like on second and goal at the seven,

1257
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: Scataboo was gonna go in for a touchdown. Yes, and

1258
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: Cam Hart a heck of a play, great tackle by him.

1259
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: To stop him.

1260
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: He went really low as someone who scored the most

1261
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: second most rushing touchdowns and Giants history, I guess Brandon Jacob.

1262
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: He would come pill for those from me.

1263
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 4: But my question to you is what's the teaching point

1264
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 4: here for Cam Scataboo that Tiki Barber learned as the

1265
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: Giants all time leaving rushing.

1266
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Speaker 18: So first of all, he leaves his feet a lot,

1267
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 18: and some of it helps him because he'll jump through

1268
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 18: cuts and you know it's it's a lot of traffic

1269
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 18: in the middle of the field and he'll squeeze his

1270
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 18: way through land on his feet and then be able

1271
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 18: to leverage himself back down into a power position and

1272
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 18: get yards. So it's not always bad, but when you're

1273
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 18: in a one on one situation, you should never ever

1274
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 18: try to leave your feet, unless it's one of those

1275
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 18: hurtling over our guys that we see these wide receivers

1276
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 18: and running backs do. And the reason is because when

1277
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 18: you're on an angle like that, the minute you leave

1278
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 18: your feet, you've lost control and all it takes is

1279
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 18: a tiny swipe and you're on the ground. What he

1280
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 18: should have done is realize that this defender who's trailing

1281
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 18: him slightly is going to go low, so he himself

1282
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 18: should get really low. Let that defender hit his shoulder, like,

1283
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 18: lean into him instead of trying to run away from him.

1284
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 18: Lean back into him. Take the contact, which you're he's

1285
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 18: gonna run through. He runs through contact from two hundred

1286
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 18: and eighty pounds defensive line. He's so sure he's a

1287
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 18: low center gravity, but it doesn't even matter. He's gonna

1288
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 18: run through that contact. So initiate the contact yourself, stunt

1289
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 18: that that that tackle attempt, and then walk into the

1290
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 18: end zone. He'll look at it and he'll he'll say,

1291
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 18: jumping is what what cost him that touchdown?

1292
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: Right, because then and then he you know, and he

1293
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: also was trying to stiff farm there right at that point.

1294
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: But you're saying you're out of control. You know he's trailing,

1295
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 4: he's coming in. He you know, he's not gonna come

1296
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: high because he knows he's gonna lose. Right in that situation,

1297
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: you just get low and almost lean into him. Take

1298
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 4: the contact, and you're gonna bounce off him. He ain't

1299
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: wrapping you, right. It was one of the things it

1300
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 4: took me a while to learn that.

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Speaker 18: Probably didn't figure that out toil my six or so

1302
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 18: year in the league, but I realized that initiating contact

1303
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 18: would often free me up because you're you're shocking the defender.

1304
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 18: You know he thinks I'm trying to run away. You

1305
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 18: just bang into him and just keep you know you're

1306
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 18: gonna keep running after it. Just bang into him, stop him,

1307
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 18: and then run away from him. They're gonna fall down

1308
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 18: around your ankles. But he's so strong with his if

1309
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 18: his feet are on the ground, there is no dB

1310
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 18: in the league. It's gonna tackle him one on one.

1311
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Speaker 18: Giants football, I'm sorry taking you more, finish, No, No,

1312
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Speaker 18: that's it.

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Speaker 1: Giants Football is brought to you by Ryan Verizon, the

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Speaker 1: Time out, we'll get Bob Popa's final thoughts, that and

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Speaker 1: a whole lot more when we come back. Giants again

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Speaker 1: defeat the Chargers for the first one of the year

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Speaker 1: twenty one eighteen.

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Speaker 5: You are listening to Giants Extra point on the w

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Speaker 5: f AN Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 29: This is THEO Johnson and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 29: on the fan w f A N and w f

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Speaker 29: AN FM, New York.

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Speaker 4: Your receivers right dark and a shotgun, shot shack and

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Speaker 4: a goal at the three dark call signals.

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Speaker 3: Takes the snap, little shovel.

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Speaker 2: Pass for THEO. Johnson makes the catch head of the

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Speaker 2: end zone. Touchdown Giants.

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Speaker 1: That was today's play of the game, brought to you

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Speaker 1: locally by Board one Performance to capability at every turn.

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Speaker 2: Get behind the wheel of a new Ford.

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Speaker 1: Truck or SUV Ford Official Truck and SUV of the

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Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. Jackson Dark's first touchdown pass as

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Speaker 1: a member of the Giants and for the fans that

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Speaker 1: did not watch the game, imagine the old Mahomes Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelcey shovel pass inside.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much what that was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that came out of the Mike Cafta

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Speaker 1: playbook coming over from Kansas City.

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Speaker 18: Did they set that play up the entire game? They

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Speaker 18: had one play early in the game, same formation, they

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Speaker 18: tossed it out to Camps Gataboo, same side toss. They

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Speaker 18: faked the pitch right well, no, no, the same side

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Speaker 18: toss to camps Gataboo.

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Speaker 3: He picked up on a five or six yards or so.

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Speaker 18: They did another one later in the game where they

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Speaker 18: faked the toss and threw a lant route and then

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Speaker 18: ultimately they brought it back one more time, fake the

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Speaker 18: toss and then threw the shovel pass. So Kafka is

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Speaker 18: able to layer the play calling with Jackson Dart because

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Speaker 18: there's so many different things that he can do. You're

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Speaker 18: not doing that in the first three games of the

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Speaker 18: year because Russell is not that that that sixth skill

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Speaker 18: position player threat that Jackson Dart is.

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Speaker 1: Bob, But give me your final thoughts here on this

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Speaker 1: game and your brief look ahead to h New Orleans

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: When we can you can go get some nice gumbo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: Look, they played Buffalo tough for a while today, but

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Speaker 4: they have a quarterback who has never won a game

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, Spencer Raler. They're challenged a little offensively.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna make a switch to

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Speaker 4: Tyler's shot, but just keep this pass rush going, run

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Speaker 4: the football. Jackson Dart's gonna learn a lot from this,

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Speaker 4: and look, just enjoy it. Man, enjoy it, like the

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Speaker 4: Giant fans have been through so much agony, and you know,

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Speaker 4: you had the loss of the Cowboys, the stinker last son,

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Speaker 4: the stinking offensive performance against Washington, and today every facet

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Speaker 4: of the team chipped in.

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Speaker 3: Was it perfect? No, we know they're a flawed team,

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Speaker 3: but man, enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was talking to a bunch of people

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Speaker 4: on the sideline before the game, you know, with ownership

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Speaker 4: and other people, and you know, you just you were hoping,

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Speaker 4: like give hope to the fan base, and you moved

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Speaker 4: up into the first round, you drafted Jackson Dart and

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Speaker 4: today was the start of what is hopefully optimism because

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Speaker 4: it's been so down in Dour for the last two years,

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Speaker 4: and now you got something to sink your teeth into

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Speaker 4: It wasn't perfect by any stretch, and Jackson Dart's gonna

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Speaker 4: learn from this experience. But today you've got a complete

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Speaker 4: team effort against an undefeated football team. And you know what,

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Speaker 4: Enjoy your dinner tonight, Enjoy rasing your friends at work

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Speaker 4: tomorrow that your Giants beat the Chargers and everything else.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, for the first time in a

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Speaker 4: long time, Giant fans can be proud of their.

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Speaker 3: Football team with the effort they got.

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Speaker 4: And I'm excited about what I saw, and I'm excited

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Speaker 4: about what could be next for them.

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Speaker 2: Bob, we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's all said, well said indeed, and Bob,

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Speaker 1: of course, off the call in the game next week

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Speaker 1: down in New Orleans. That is a noon start local

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Speaker 1: time down there, with a one o'clock start here in

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Speaker 1: New York. Our pregam coverage, of course, will begin at

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Speaker 1: noon across our radio network Eastern Time. Please stick with

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Speaker 1: us if you are listening on our local FLAGSNIP station WFAN.

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Speaker 1: But it is time to say goodbye to the affiliates

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Speaker 1: across the country on the Giants Radio network. Our next broadcast,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, will be next Sunday, when the Giants

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Speaker 1: travel to New Orleans to take on the Saints, with

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Speaker 1: our pregame show beginning on our network at noon Eastern.

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Speaker 1: The Giants again defeat the Sandy almost what the whole

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Speaker 1: broadcast without calling them the San Diego Chargers, the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, twenty one to eighteen.

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Speaker 13: I almost got there, Meadow Meadow, you head met. The

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Speaker 13: Giants beat the Chargers twenty one to eighteen, and they

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Speaker 13: improved their record to one ad three. For our crew,

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Speaker 13: I have John Duck Tex for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on the Wfan Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 1: But we are not done right here on WFN in

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 2: We got another.

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Speaker 1: Forty five minutes of so to play with Tiki Barbera

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Speaker 1: and I will take your calls. Paul Patino will join

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Speaker 1: us as well. Eight eight eight eight oh eight one

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Speaker 1: zero one nine. I got Dexter Lawrence audio from downstairs.

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Speaker 1: I got Brian Burns audio from downstairs. That and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more. Stick with us right here on the fan.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 16: This is dex one is the second and you're listening

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Speaker 16: to Giants football Underfan WFA N and w FA n FM,

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Speaker 16: New York.

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Speaker 1: Back here on Giants extra point right here on the

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Speaker 1: fan again. Giants defeat the Charges for the first win

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Speaker 1: twenty one to eighteen. You just heard from Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have audio from him downstairs in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Brian Burns. Paul Deatino joins us as well,

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Speaker 1: and of course get on the line. We will take

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Speaker 1: your calls at eight eight eight, eight oh eight, one zero,

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Speaker 1: one to nine as the Giants again get their first

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Speaker 1: win of the season. As Jackson dar gets a win

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Speaker 1: in his first game starting for the New York Football Giants.

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Speaker 1: Let's go downstairs. Dexter Lawrence addressed the media after the game.

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Speaker 16: I got my hand on the ball earlier in the game,

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Speaker 16: but it got called back, and this one he just

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Speaker 16: threw it right over my head. I put my hands up, Dallas,

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Speaker 16: I missed it, and this and this week I got

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Speaker 16: it and tried to go score.

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Speaker 20: Oftentimes, when defensive linemen get a deflection like that, the

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Speaker 20: lands in their hands, teammates and screaming for the ball.

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Speaker 2: Was there anyway he would go to give that thing up.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was close to me.

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Speaker 16: I'll tell everybody, I'm the fastest.

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Speaker 20: How close did you think you were gonna get to

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Speaker 20: the goal line?

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Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna score.

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Speaker 16: I knew he was gonna go low, but I couldn't

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Speaker 16: catch my feet quick enough. But yeah, and then then

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Speaker 16: I just went down.

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Speaker 20: About the other defensive line where they kind of give

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Speaker 20: you a real nice Griben whinning when you got caught

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Speaker 20: up the three.

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Speaker 16: Nah, I need I needed to catch some win.

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Speaker 3: For the defense to close this game out. What does

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Speaker 3: that mean?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 21: After being in this position before and not being able to.

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Speaker 16: Do Uh, that's that's everything. You know, we we asks

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Speaker 16: for that. You know, we actually be on the field

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Speaker 16: when it matters most. And you know, and this week

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Speaker 16: we just took advantage. You know, the whole game, we

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Speaker 16: was on each other about speaking through the game about

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Speaker 16: situational awareness and understanding what plays need to be made

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Speaker 16: right here and giving the offense short fields to play on,

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Speaker 16: and the whole the whole game we was speaking and

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Speaker 16: and and and when you speak on stuff like that, things,

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Speaker 16: that's what happens.

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Speaker 3: Is it actually important because it was darker, it's not

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Speaker 3: mean you're.

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Speaker 6: Playing with it.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think I think regardless. I think that's regardless.

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Speaker 12: Of the fact.

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Speaker 16: You know, you wanna that's how you wanna play.

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Speaker 3: As with defense, when you get opportunities and they.

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Speaker 16: Inside their five, their team, you wanna hold them there.

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Speaker 8: So the offense can get short. No matter who's that quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Did you think it doctor?

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Speaker 8: I think it's tough.

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Speaker 3: He's tough.

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Speaker 2: He too. He took some hits and but he got

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Speaker 2: back up and.

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Speaker 12: Made the players we needed to let us whood.

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Speaker 8: That's what matter most.

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Speaker 3: Is this the vision?

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Speaker 25: You know, like you guys just pass rush stift guys

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Speaker 25: up front.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, you got a lot, you got a lot of

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Speaker 16: ballers up front. You got a lot of guys that's

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Speaker 16: that's getting paid to do this, to go to go

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Speaker 16: out here and dominate every game. And you know we

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Speaker 16: put that, We put that pressure on ourselves. We wanted

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Speaker 16: and we encourage, we embrace it. We we don't shy

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Speaker 16: away from it. And I know we just gotta continue

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Speaker 16: to be consistent and show up every week and prepare

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Speaker 16: the right way. And that's what we did this week,

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Speaker 16: and we came out.

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Speaker 12: With a w how much more baseball?

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Speaker 3: How much more baseball? Get next?

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Speaker 19: When you'll lead for fifty minutes of the game for

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Speaker 19: the past press to be off like he played from

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Speaker 19: the hat.

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Speaker 3: The Johnston usually do that ship. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: we're just playing ball, man.

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Speaker 16: You know, we we gotta I think we gotta do

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Speaker 16: better of holding the momentum. You know, when when things

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Speaker 16: happen like that big room, I can't let that happen.

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Speaker 3: Little things like that.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you as a defense.

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Speaker 16: You want to be dominant, and no matter what the

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Speaker 16: ball is spotted, no matter how it's spotted, no matter where,

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Speaker 16: did like you want to go out there dominant.

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Speaker 1: Of course is first start to have a three yard

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Speaker 1: field than seventy eight eighty years down.

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Speaker 3: Even if you want an interception ever.

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Speaker 1: Game, do you take some pride in the fact that

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Speaker 1: you were able to make it easier on Jackson and

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Speaker 1: the offense.

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Speaker 3: No, for sure.

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Speaker 16: And I mean, like I was saying, like the message

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Speaker 16: through the whole game was if they here, keep them here.

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Speaker 16: Let's let's get an offensive short field, because we know

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Speaker 16: how important that is for anybody, any quarterback, to have.

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Speaker 3: A short field.

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Speaker 16: So I mean that was so we talked through the

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Speaker 16: whole game. Whenever they was in their team. It's side

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Speaker 16: their five, like, let's hold them here, let's keep them here,

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Speaker 16: get an offense a short field.

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Speaker 25: Imagine you mentioned just this week wanted to be consistent

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Speaker 25: of coming out today and doing it.

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Speaker 3: I think consistent.

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01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 16: I was speaking consistent throughout the year, right, like with

1535
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 16: a dominant, dominant performance.

1536
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 25: Did anything click?

1537
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 24: Maybe since that Dallas game is you know, the last

1538
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 24: couple of weeks eating up to today.

1539
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 8: I can't.

1540
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 16: I can't say. I think we just continue to prepare

1541
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 16: the right way. And that's the most important thing. We

1542
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 16: were communicating better and we learning each other more, and

1543
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 16: I think that's the biggest thing. We just gotta understand

1544
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 16: the importance of situational defense and offense. And that's and

1545
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 16: we're gonna outcomes gonna happen like this.

1546
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 9: That is not a perfect game.

1547
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 7: You guys from the league.

1548
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 27: Here touring a c L.

1549
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 6: What did you think about you guys responded to that?

1550
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 11: Respond to it?

1551
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, prayers up to him for sure.

1552
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1553
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 16: It hurts to see a socier go down, but you know,

1554
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 16: we gotta I think your injuries happened in this game.

1555
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 16: You know, we play a dangerous game and it's unfortunate,

1556
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 16: but I think you know, we got we got guys

1557
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 16: that got to step up.

1558
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: That's Dexter Lawrence. After the game, Paul, you're the chance

1559
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: to talk to him. The defense, I imagine had to have

1560
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: been and we're here from Brian Burnes a little bit

1561
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: in the postgame show as well. I gotta imagine the defense,

1562
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: especially that front, and we heard from a duel Carter

1563
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: previously had to be feeling pretty good about themselves with

1564
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: the way.

1565
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: They helped close this game out. They really were.

1566
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 20: You talk about the nine quarterback hits, the twenty total

1567
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 20: pressures that next Gen Stats registered the Giants, four uh

1568
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 20: and six sacks as well. I mean the guys downstairs

1569
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 20: were basically saying that the only.

1570
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: Only two sacks the six sacks were for the Chargers.

1571
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm looking I'm looking at the wrong numbers.

1572
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay.

1573
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm getting excited about it because it was so good.

1574
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: They had a ton of pressures it. Yeah, correct, they did.

1575
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 20: And and really what it came down to is they

1576
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 20: were talking about how each other worked together so well

1577
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 20: that it was a unified effort and everybody knew what

1578
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 20: the other guy was doing.

1579
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: They were on the same page.

1580
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 20: Yes, that correct, and we talked about this on Big

1581
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 20: Blue Kickoff Live, heard every weekday from twelve thirty to

1582
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 20: one thirty on Giants dot Com. We talked about this

1583
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 20: on the show that the Giants defense might take three

1584
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 20: or four games before they hit their stride.

1585
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: They hit their stride today.

1586
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: Well, it also helps that you're missing Joe Walton, you're

1587
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: missing Rashaun Slater, and you're missing.

1588
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 20: Understri So yes, but they made they made enough of

1589
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 20: big plays that they had to make right and.

1590
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: They gave it into me and Tek. You were talking

1591
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: about this, Bob earlier.

1592
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: They gave the chipal to the Giants offense twice inside

1593
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: the five yard That's what you need from of your

1594
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: defense if they're.

1595
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 3: Gonna carry feld.

1596
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 18: Position and turnovers are such an important part of winning

1597
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 18: in the NFL, and the Giants won that battle today.

1598
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 18: You know, Bob mentioned it earlier, and it was such

1599
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 18: a great point about the change of fortune from the

1600
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 18: fumble down backed up on the one yard line that

1601
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 18: Andrew Thomas recovered, then the enormous punt from from Gillam

1602
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 18: who got the ball sixty seven yards down the field.

1603
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 18: Ultimately it is only eleven yard return, then you get

1604
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 18: the turnover, and then you score, and so like that

1605
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 18: moment though, that that little two or two and a

1606
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 18: half possession change for the Giants is what won them

1607
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 18: this game.

1608
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: All right, eight won zero one nine will get more

1609
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: audio from the locker room, but we are going to

1610
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: take your calls for the next forty minutes or so

1611
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: right here on Giants extra point again. Giants defeat the

1612
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: LA Chargers twenty one to eighteen. Harvey and Dixon's will

1613
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: lead us off today, Hovey.

1614
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 14: By, how are you long?

1615
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 30: You know?

1616
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 14: Eddie? Hello? Coach Robinson one seven Grambling. Either get a

1617
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 14: better player or get a player better, and I've always

1618
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 14: robbed coach, and the Giants are doing both and I

1619
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 14: love it.

1620
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 26: Man.

1621
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 14: That's why I leave Shane and Dabel alone for next year. Please,

1622
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 14: I don't want to hear any more of that. Secondly,

1623
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 14: I said, put Jackson Darden when the line is stabilized.

1624
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what they've stabilized the last two weeks

1625
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 14: and everybody Thomas sam said, Thomas was the key if

1626
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 14: he stayed. You know. John Jacob Schmidt's you know, is

1627
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 14: basically getting better because he was pushed around early in

1628
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 14: the Omega. Sorry, yeah, Schmid's was pushed around a lot.

1629
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 14: And then you may I like to throw these outs.

1630
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 14: You can discuss it. And you guys mentioned about the turf.

1631
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 14: Carl alluded to it. You you alluded to it. This

1632
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 14: teff is not an old turf. This is a new

1633
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 14: turf two years ago.

1634
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: Of course two years ago. It's new turf.

1635
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: But it's just turf. I mean, grass is what.

1636
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 18: Yeah, I would love to see grass, and I think

1637
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 18: ownership would love to sea grass too.

1638
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: It's just with all the events and the two teams playing,

1639
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: but it was very hot played on those Well, the

1640
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: trades are terrible. I'm not talking about the trades. The

1641
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: trades were fine until they weren't.

1642
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 14: Remember remember the Super Bowl between the Eagles and the Chiefs.

1643
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 14: They did hyber turf field and I was slipping all

1644
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 14: over the place. So yeah, that's right.

1645
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 18: Yeah, they do have to figure something out. I know

1646
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 18: this is a new turf, it's not the same one

1647
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 18: that everybody was complaining. The guard here and they were

1648
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 18: mad about it and everybody they had two guys heard

1649
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 18: or whatever it was. But you can't help but think

1650
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 18: that when a guy plants hard as Malik neighbors did

1651
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 18: to jump and his in his A C. L gives

1652
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 18: that it's it's turf related that doesn't doesn't necessarily happen

1653
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 18: on grass fields. But to his other points, the reason

1654
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 18: the Giants offensive line was stabilized is because Andrew Thomas

1655
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 18: is healthy and they have veterans on that front from

1656
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 18: John Runyon and obviously h Van Roten and then the

1657
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 18: Jermaine and Luminor. There's guys who have been together now

1658
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 18: for a year plus and you're starting.

1659
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: To see some continuity.

1660
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 18: And you saw it mostly in the run game, the

1661
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 18: drive and the push on some of those inside zones.

1662
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 18: I mean, you're just trying to get three yards in

1663
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 18: a cloud of dust, that old cliche, and Campskataboo gets

1664
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 18: behind his pads and pushes it for another two yards,

1665
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 18: and so first down you're get in six yards.

1666
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: It makes it so much.

1667
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 18: Easier for Mike Kafka to call plays on second and

1668
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 18: short and third and short as opposed to second to

1669
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 18: third and long.

1670
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I thought I thought the offensive line did

1671
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: a nice job. You had the John Michael Schmid's hold

1672
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: on that one dart scramble which I did not get

1673
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: a good angle on a replay, but it did look

1674
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: like he tried the defensive boy tried to disengage and

1675
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: he kind of had the little I.

1676
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 18: Mean, you're always gonna get that when the correct defender

1677
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 18: tries to pull away and there's holding on every play,

1678
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 18: by the way, let's just let's just let's just acknowledge that.

1679
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 18: But when a defender smartly pulls away and and you're

1680
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 18: obstructing him from pulling away, then you're gonna get called

1681
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 18: for it.

1682
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: Accord again Pro Football Focus as their early things out.

1683
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas no pressures in this game again last week,

1684
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: no pressures in the twenty snaps he played, and he

1685
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: did play the whole game this week, by the way.

1686
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: That was a question we had whether or not he'd

1687
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: be able to go to the whole game. Andrew Thomas

1688
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: did go the entire game. Unless I don't think he

1689
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: came out and and he plays that. I don't remember

1690
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: boving and I they had three pressures each for alumin

1691
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: Or and Van rot In, one pressure for for JJ

1692
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: for JMS. So Giants offensive line did a really nice

1693
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: job in this game.

1694
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1695
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: One of the point Harvey that he was going to

1696
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: talk about, I forget that he that he said.

1697
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 18: All is Andrew Thomas and John Michael Schmidt. Uh and

1698
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 18: then and then obviously the turf that we were alluding to.

1699
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we hit everything.

1700
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get back to the phones and go

1701
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: to Robbie and Lennox.

1702
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 22: He's up next, Robbie, Robby, Hey, guys, well, it's nice

1703
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 22: to but followed Dot Harvey and lax So who called

1704
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 22: a touch Harvey in Long Island, who called me the

1705
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 22: most dogs by NHL guy on the stand the last

1706
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 22: thirty eight years to bank you harm anyway.

1707
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 26: You know, guy, I was jumping up and down today

1708
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 26: like a little I'm sixteen years old. My first game

1709
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 26: behind the Poles in nineteen seventy two. We had to

1710
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 26: look high to the Yankee stadium. But anyway, listen, you

1711
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 26: know they played a really really like very inspired game.

1712
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 26: There's things that I want to ask you about, specifically, Okay,

1713
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 26: Dabel's decision not to kick the field goal I thought

1714
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 26: was just really ridiculous to go for it, especially their

1715
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 26: failures in the red toe, and that's specifically a problem

1716
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 26: for me. But I'll ask you guys at falling guy.

1717
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Robbie, real quick, the way the way I

1718
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 1: look at that, and I think that's a very hard conversion.

1719
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: They were with a three and a half yard line

1720
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: something like.

1721
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: That, yeast and I lean field goal there, But I

1722
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: think the thinking was six points doesn't give you enough

1723
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: of an advantage. You're still losing on a touchdown. Yes,

1724
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: previously a field goal would tie it, but it wouldn't

1725
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: win the game for the for the Chargers, I just

1726
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: don't think they believe the difference Tiki and then Robbie,

1727
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: you can finish between six points and three points wasn't

1728
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: enough not I think that's right. But they also thinking

1729
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: how well, a say for the two big plays Robbie,

1730
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, the.

1731
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 3: Big touchdown to the and in the run.

1732
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh dude, he's going to be a stud for years.

1733
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: He's dude. He's a big dude the way he with

1734
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: that speed right right.

1735
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 18: But anyways, other than those two big plays, rob the

1736
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 18: defense played phenomenal, right.

1737
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: And so trusting defense, Yeah, so you I.

1738
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 18: Think you're trusting the defense to make big stops, uh

1739
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 18: coming down the line, and.

1740
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 3: Ultimately they did.

1741
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 18: They gave up that big run to the balls at

1742
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 18: the forty yard line, forty five yard on whatever it is,

1743
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 18: but then on third down you get the Brian Burns sack,

1744
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 18: which gets the ball back to the Giants and ultimately

1745
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 18: wins in the game.

1746
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: All Robbie finished.

1747
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 26: Yeah, I've been listening to Bob right. I couldn't believe

1748
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 26: it up here in CBS and Albany. He didn't even

1749
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 26: show the game, so I gave it to CBS stition already.

1750
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 26: I could not believe I'm going to find out why

1751
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 26: the Giants weren't for in television. So I usually think

1752
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 26: the game, but I just want to tell you. I'll tell

1753
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 26: you something. My friends listen to radio today for the

1754
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 26: first time, and I've been listening to radio forever. I'm

1755
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 26: a radio guy. You do a radio show up here, right,

1756
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 26: and it's amazing to me. Listening to Crow and Bob

1757
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 26: is sweet and special and I was so great to

1758
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 26: hear them. And thank you guys for all the years.

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01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 26: Thank you to wf AN for all the years I've

1760
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 26: spoken on the station. And it's beautiful. Thanks Smoky. I

1761
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 26: feel like an old man. You and Lose are hilarious.

1762
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 26: It's like two generations. It's hilarious.

1763
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: I love it.

1764
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 26: Thank you, I love it, Thank thank you.

1765
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Speaker 18: I appreciated. So isn't it nice to get callers they're happy?

1766
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 18: I feel nice, so nicety to complain blame whoever they

1767
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 18: get by.

1768
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: By the way, these are some of the most ridiculous

1769
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: pro football focused pressure SATs I've ever seen.

1770
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 2: And again these are preliminary. These will change.

1771
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: They have the Giants with a fifty eight percent win

1772
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: rate in this game. Wow, fifty eight percent forty three

1773
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: percent pressure. And the reason, hey, people might well, why

1774
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: is the win rate higher than the pressure? Well, you

1775
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: could win, but Herbert gets the ball out before the

1776
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: pressure gets there.

1777
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: Does an impact the play?

1778
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: Some individual numbers Abdual Carter five quarterback hits, nine pressures,

1779
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: Burns six pressures, three quarterback hits, Keevon Thibodeau five pressures,

1780
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: two quarterback acts, and then two pressures for Dexter Lawrence.

1781
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: And he's actually lucky he didn't get called for a

1782
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: blow to the head on a quarterback's not a player

1783
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: eler in this game, so I guess they didn't give

1784
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: the QB.

1785
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: Hit for that one, right, But just that's what you envision. Yeah,

1786
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: you could feel like you could feel.

1787
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 18: This Chargers offense has been one of the best in

1788
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 18: the NFL. We talk about their trio of wide receivers

1789
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 18: who have been dominant. Keenan Allen coming out of nowhere

1790
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 18: at thirty three with three touchdowns in each game, didn't

1791
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 18: feel like they ever had a chance to be explosive.

1792
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 18: Now they had the one big play, but other than that,

1793
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 18: there wasn't a lot of we are in control from

1794
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 18: the Chargers offense, and you give credit to the Giants defense.

1795
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 18: They forced the Chargers have to operate in five to

1796
01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 18: eight yard yard frames and they were to control it.

1797
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 18: So Shane Bowen's taking a lot of flak this year

1798
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 18: for how I don't know, expose the defense has been

1799
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,839
Speaker 18: at times, you gotta give him credit for the defense

1800
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 18: he designed against one of these one of the top

1801
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 18: offenses in the league this weekend. The Giants had a

1802
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 18: few mistackles, we know that, but for the most part

1803
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 18: they made the but they made more than they missed,

1804
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 18: and there were some that were one on one hits,

1805
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,839
Speaker 18: flat out hits. For example, even Drew Phillips on Johnston

1806
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 18: on the last pass play, he nailed him right in

1807
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 18: his tracks.

1808
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: He wasn't getting away.

1809
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 18: And that's a big that's a huge, big play because

1810
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 18: if they if he gets out of bounds, they're on

1811
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 18: the whatever it was for that was flat, that was

1812
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 18: flawed on that flat making that tackle. If it's flawed,

1813
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 18: if whatever it is, whoever, doesn't matter, the fact that

1814
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 18: he gets them down and bounds ends the game. If

1815
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 18: they get out of bounds, they have a Hail Mary from.

1816
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 3: The fifty yard.

1817
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 20: What I really want to say is that Robbie was

1818
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 20: talking about the fourth down play where the Giants wound

1819
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 20: up going for it. Yeah, one thing to keep in mind,

1820
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 20: and I know it's it's a second guest kind of thing,

1821
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 20: but you know, if you're mad about them going for it,

1822
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 20: remember the ball hit Wandell Robinson right in both hands.

1823
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 20: That's a good point too, Okay, good point to hit

1824
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 20: him in both hands, and on my chart, it goes

1825
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 20: down as a drop.

1826
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to make that catch.

1827
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 18: I'm interested to rewatch it because you could see the

1828
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 18: calculation happening in Jackson Dart's mind, because he scrambled a

1829
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 18: little bit in the pocket. He was he was heeing

1830
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 18: and halling back and forth, and I stay in the pocket.

1831
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 18: He finally escaped the pocket and he's moving right and

1832
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 18: he could have run. I mean it would have he

1833
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 18: would have taken a hit, but he could have tried

1834
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 18: to run it in. Instead, he made the smart play

1835
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 18: and threw it to one of two guys that were there.

1836
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 18: THEO Johnson was right behind Wandell Robinson, and he put

1837
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 18: it up high so that it'd be away from the defender.

1838
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 18: Wandell just dropped it.

1839
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to look at it again. I don't

1840
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he did not have to put quite as much air.

1841
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 18: On well, no, he The problem is there was no velocity,

1842
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 18: so the balls in their it just took so long

1843
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 18: to get there. It's but it's hard to know how

1844
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 18: to throw that ball until you've done it multiple times.

1845
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 18: You have to not not zip it, but put it

1846
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 18: firm enough so that it sticks to your hands as

1847
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 18: opposed to having to snatch it out of the The

1848
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 18: last thing.

1849
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: You want to do, too, is whoever his momentum is

1850
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: going forward, you don't want him to airmail it over

1851
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: the guy's head either, so he's trying to take something

1852
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: off of it.

1853
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,799
Speaker 18: It's just a throw you don't practice. You never practice

1854
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 18: that throw, so it's hard to make it in real time.

1855
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Justin and Dobbs Ferry, he's

1856
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: up next, hide justin.

1857
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Speaker 27: Hey, what's going on?

1858
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 30: Guys?

1859
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 27: An amazing win, will take a win, but that red

1860
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 27: zone off It's like we're just saying you can't go

1861
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 27: down twice with Dexter Lawrence into the two three yard line,

1862
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 27: come away with three points and two red zones. It

1863
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 27: almost cost was a game. I don't know where we

1864
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 27: go with receivers now. Is there somebody available or are

1865
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 27: we bringing back Odell? What's the playing here?

1866
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1867
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Speaker 18: Look, I don't think that they're gonna go search the wire,

1868
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:50,440
Speaker 18: but I do think that this is a humongous opportunity

1869
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 18: for Jalen Hyatt. Jalen Hyatt has been this enigma for

1870
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 18: his entire career. Three years here, and he's gonna get

1871
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 18: an opportunity now. I think Bo Collins, who made this

1872
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 18: team surprisingly as an undrafted free agent out of you know,

1873
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 18: North Carolina, uh Notre Dame, He's gonna get a chance

1874
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 18: to step into it now. Neither one of those guys

1875
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 18: or a league neighbors. Right, They're not the elite ball snatcher.

1876
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 18: They're not gonna be the one on one, you know,

1877
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 18: go get this pass, but they are gonna get the

1878
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 18: opportunity because who else can you turn to right now?

1879
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 18: I think Darius Slayton will pick up some of the slack.

1880
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 18: Wando Robinson didn't have a ton of targets in this game.

1881
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 18: But to me, it's got to be one of those

1882
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 18: guys Jalen Hyatt or the rookie Bo Collins who are

1883
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 18: gonna step into a much bigger role.

1884
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: I could see a few Johnson, especially in the middle

1885
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: of the field with the like, but of course he's

1886
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 1: not gonna be a downfield right He's.

1887
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 18: Gonna he's gonna replace the catches in the targets of course,

1888
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 18: because steel Johnson is turning into after a tough first game,

1889
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 18: you know, his anaugural game, he's turning into a pretty reliable,

1890
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 18: you know target for this for this offense. But when

1891
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 18: we think about what Molikue neighbors was, that is the

1892
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 18: one of the elite deep threats in the league, and

1893
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 18: that's underneath threat deep threat, you know, mid range threat.

1894
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 18: The Giants don't have that right now, and they need

1895
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 18: someone to step in and fill that void.

1896
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,320
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1897
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1898
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1899
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1905
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Speaker 1: keep taking your calls with it from Brian Burns and

1906
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: a couple others as well. In the locker room after

1907
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: the Giants twenty one eighteen win against Los Angeles Charges

1908
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: will be right back. This is Cameron Scataboo and you're

1909
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,760
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Speaker 1: Giants defeat the Los Angeles Chargers twenty one to eighteen

1915
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: here at MetLife Stadium, We're taking your calls at eight

1916
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: eight eight eight to oh eight one zero one nine.

1917
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and say what's up

1918
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: to Richard in Manhattan. Richard, what's going on? Richard going once?

1919
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: Richard going twice? All right, we'll go back to Richard

1920
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,839
Speaker 1: in a second. In the meantime, Connor, let's go downstairs.

1921
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of other audio from downstairs. We

1922
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: talked about Theo Johnson making some big blazer, perhaps stepping

1923
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: in to take some of that target load with Malik

1924
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: Neighbors absence. He had that big touchdown catcher on the

1925
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: shovel pass from Jackson dar in this game. He also

1926
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: had the big catch on that third and five on

1927
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: the next to last Giant series their final drive to

1928
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: take a lot of time off the clock to prevent

1929
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: eight Chargers come back.

1930
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: Here's Theo Johnson talking to the media after the game.

1931
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 8: Just take me through a huge win for you guys.

1932
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 8: How's a team feeling right now?

1933
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: How are you feeling right now? The big victory this year?

1934
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 31: Yeah, I mean phil great. You know, it's great to

1935
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 31: see the energy in that stadium. We just got to

1936
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 31: keep building, keep doing what we did today.

1937
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 32: Take me through your touchdown and and you know, being

1938
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 32: the electricity between you and Jackson. Dart explained to me

1939
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 32: how that felt in his home crowd.

1940
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 31: Yeah, it was great. We called the play two times

1941
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 31: in a row. Uh we alerted on the first one,

1942
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 31: so I was kind of pissed. I'm like Dann, we

1943
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 31: we missed out on that one. Wanted to wanted to

1944
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 31: try it again, and uh, you know, just great execution

1945
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 31: on on everyone's part.

1946
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 32: What you know between you between Cam, it's young, young

1947
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 32: offensive crew. But explain to me what you guys do

1948
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 32: that are creating so many opportunities for you on the

1949
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 32: offense to get in the goal.

1950
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 8: Get Cam.

1951
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Uh just got it.

1952
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 31: Oh yeah, I mean we got a young offense. But

1953
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 31: you know we have the right people. Everyone's just wired

1954
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 31: the way the right way, wants to win. Works really hard,

1955
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 31: you know, our practices are tough, and and then everyone

1956
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 31: cares and invests himself. So it's just a matter of time.

1957
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 31: And it just happened to be today, And it just

1958
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 31: takes one win to you know, get rolling.

1959
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,799
Speaker 3: And finally just you know, getting this momentum.

1960
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 32: Now I'm getting one win under your belt going off

1961
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 32: to New.

1962
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 3: Orleans, Like, take me through what this week is gonna

1963
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:16,560
Speaker 3: feel like?

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Speaker 32: For you guys, because they're gonna be an extra energy,

1965
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 32: both burst of energy for you guys.

1966
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that.

1967
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 31: Like I said, it just takes one win to kind

1968
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 31: of propell you forward. So you know, one can easily

1969
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 31: turn to the two, two can turn the three. So

1970
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 31: you know, we just gotta do keep our process, keep

1971
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,759
Speaker 31: doing what we've been doing, and just use this momentum

1972
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 31: to our advantage.

1973
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: All right, he scored the touchdown in the red zone.

1974
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: We've talked about the play, that one that Robinson could

1975
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: not come up with the catch in the end zone. Well,

1976
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: the Robinson talked to the media after the game. I'm

1977
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: sure he talked about that and a whole lot more

1978
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: along one.

1979
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 3: That got called back.

1980
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 7: Like you see the end of those rounds that what

1981
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 7: do you think as a team?

1982
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,839
Speaker 24: Partially, I'm like, he's gonna be hard because he's a quarterback.

1983
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 24: But at the end of the day, I'm like, you know,

1984
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 24: he's that's a dog right there. He's gonna lay his

1985
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 24: body on the line for at the end of the day,

1986
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 24: he just wants to win.

1987
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 3: To be fair, all winds probably aren't created equal, Right,

1988
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: You're zero and three here, Like, what.

1989
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 8: Did this meant? What does this mean to this group?

1990
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: Like how important was that for you guys?

1991
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 24: I think it was really good just to you know,

1992
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 24: lift us back up a little bit, get that confidence

1993
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 24: back and at the.

1994
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: End of the day, see what this feels like.

1995
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 23: So we continue on going.

1996
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 9: When there was you guys feel like, I don't know

1997
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 9: how much were able to see, but could you tell

1998
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 9: how much younger defensive front was falling justin you know,

1999
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 9: you guys put points in one.

2000
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely could tell.

2001
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 24: I say, especially that was kind of like a method

2002
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 24: this whole week, and they talking to the beyond there

2003
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 24: like you know, you're ready for this one and it's

2004
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 24: gonna be.

2005
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: Probably guess a good matchup for us and.

2006
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 23: You going out there to show.

2007
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 7: I could see how emotional Table was, like he's like baar,

2008
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 7: hugging Jackson everything, Like what was his emotions like with

2009
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 7: you guys after the game?

2010
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 3: Was the message after.

2011
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 24: This should just keep going? I say, we gotta taste

2012
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 24: this first take three, so now we got to continue

2013
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 24: to build.

2014
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 7: Could you tell how much it's meant to him?

2015
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Was a lot swirling this way?

2016
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean I think anybody that's been gone through

2017
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 24: that and a lot of people are talking about about you.

2018
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 24: I think it definitely been good once you got that win,

2019
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 24: and it's kind of a little bit of waylifted often

2020
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 24: and now we're just gonna make him look you more.

2021
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: Right, all right, there's one the Robins and the Theo Johnson.

2022
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: After the game, Paul, you have a little red zone

2023
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: breakdown you want to do for us.

2024
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 20: Well, the deep red zone is the coaches like to

2025
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 20: call it is when you get down to the ten

2026
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 20: yard line. And the Giants had three opportunities from the

2027
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 20: ten yard line are in and of the snaps that

2028
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 20: they were able to execute, they had eight running plays,

2029
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 20: three passing plays plus the shovel, which is a passing place.

2030
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: So make that number four. Almost it's almost like a

2031
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 2: run designed it is. Yeah, correct, it is not your

2032
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: typical drop back and throw it from the pocket. No,

2033
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you splitting it out.

2034
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 8: He is.

2035
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: I do think it's different.

2036
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 20: But clearly we knew that the Chargers defense, and we

2037
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 20: had talked to our guests from Los Angeles who told

2038
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 20: us that they were stout in the interior of that

2039
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 20: defensive line. And quite honestly, it's not like the Giants

2040
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 20: ran for one hundred and fifty yards today.

2041
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: I know the running backs were twenty two I'm sorry, right,

2042
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: thirty two carries for one hundred and seven yards.

2043
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 15: Now.

2044
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 20: They did what they had to do to keep the

2045
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 20: Chargers defense. Honest, I say Tiki all the time. It's

2046
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 20: about knowing that you can run the ball in certain

2047
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 20: spots when you need to just to keep the chains moving.

2048
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 18: Situation credit fishing right, you don't need You're not running

2049
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 18: to create big plays. You're just running to keep your

2050
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 18: offense balanced and then go and making the defense think

2051
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 18: about we might have to bring some extra pressure, which

2052
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 18: the Chargers did a lot of from the slot. They

2053
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 18: would bring uh you know, the corner or or the

2054
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 18: will linebacker off the slot just to stop the Giants run.

2055
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 18: And that was created because the Giants kept running the

2056
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 18: ball effectively.

2057
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 20: And then what we saw when the quarters got tight

2058
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 20: down near the goal line, the Chargers interior d which

2059
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 20: is incredibly stout.

2060
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 18: They were stout enough to say, Giants, you're not running

2061
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 18: the ball. It look they're very much of ben don't

2062
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 18: break defense. That's why they've given up the least amount

2063
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 18: of points of the last year and a half in

2064
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 18: the NFL. I think it is eighteen or whatever whatever

2065
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 18: the number is the best red zone defense in the league.

2066
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 18: And it's because they been They don't break and then

2067
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 18: when they get down tight, they make plays. And so

2068
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 18: it was a challenge for the Giants the first you know,

2069
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 18: score the QB draw. If you're scouting the Giants, you're

2070
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 18: not You're not even practicing against that. And so it

2071
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 18: was a It was a weapon that Mike Kaffick was

2072
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 18: able to deploy because of who was under center. It

2073
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 18: was also from fifteen yards out right, exactly right, So

2074
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 18: it's not even the tight red zone it was. It

2075
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 18: was an out, way out red zone.

2076
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, you have to.

2077
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: Look at some of the red zone issues in the

2078
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: second half when that running part of Jackson Dart's game

2079
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily in the equation as much either because the

2080
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: hamstring injuries.

2081
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,839
Speaker 18: Right right, The offense came because the defense got stops

2082
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 18: and turnovers and got them in point brick, point blank range.

2083
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 18: For the THEO Johnson shovel that we were just alluding to.

2084
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 2: All Right, Richard in Manhattan's back, Richard, what's going on?

2085
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: It's up, Richard.

2086
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 30: Gets the game ball. He had total control of this game.

2087
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 30: This reminded me of pascells. Pawcells used to control sims,

2088
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 30: control the check quarterbacks. He knew how to control the

2089
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 30: game now. The only call I didn't like. I didn't

2090
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 30: mind him going fourth down and is skewing the field

2091
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 30: goals there. But on third down? Why was he so

2092
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 30: conservative running it up the middle? If you're I agree

2093
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 30: that was fair. That was a bad call down.

2094
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 18: Well, if you're right, I think if you're Richard, if

2095
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 18: you're running it up the middle, Candada, cam'scatabi right, don't

2096
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 18: don't dive it. You know, a QB lead, Uh? You know,

2097
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 18: have Cam lead and then and Jackson Dark come behind him.

2098
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 18: It just made no sense because everybody knew it was

2099
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 18: likely heading there. You might as well have hand it

2100
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 18: to the kid who can probably break a few tackles.

2101
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 18: I would have loved to have seen them get on

2102
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 18: the edges. The challenge with running to the edges down

2103
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 18: in the really tight red area is that the quarters

2104
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,480
Speaker 18: shrink really quickly, and so sometimes the handoff gets complicated.

2105
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 3: So I get it.

2106
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 2: Inside zone is what you're on. But QB inside zone

2107
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 2: I didn't love. Can I speak to your parcels?

2108
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 3: Comment?

2109
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 20: When Phil's when Phil Simms, thank you. Richard started for

2110
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 20: the Giants. Joe Zarchik had gotten hurt. It was a

2111
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 20: month into the season and Bizarchik was badly being beaten

2112
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 20: up because the offensive line was terrible. Phil was supposed

2113
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,879
Speaker 20: to red shirt his first year. He was not supposed

2114
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 20: to play, and he knew that, but they decided they

2115
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 20: had to go with him because Pizarchik was basically being

2116
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 20: put together scout Scotch Dape. So he starts against Tampa,

2117
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 20: wins four games in a row to start his Giants career,

2118
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 20: and five out of his first six.

2119
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 2: How about that.

2120
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 20: But here's the thing, Ticky, his numbers were more pedestrian

2121
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 20: than you can imagine, because here it was Ray Perkins.

2122
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 3: In those days.

2123
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 20: It wasn't Parcels, but of course Parcels, it comes from

2124
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 20: the Perkins tree. They took that offense and they took

2125
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 20: it down into the mud and said, Phil, you're not

2126
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 20: gonna do anything to lose the game. We're just gonna

2127
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 20: rely on a really good defense and we're gonna try

2128
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 20: to methodically move the ball.

2129
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: And that was the philosophy its giants used today.

2130
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're at a point that second quarter, I think

2131
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Jackson Darted one more pass attempt than he had rushing

2132
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: ataps exactly. I think it was seven passes and six runs.

2133
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: At one point in the second quarter it was maybe

2134
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: with six passes of five rushers. I don't remember exactly right,

2135
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: but they ran a lot and Look, Dart only finished

2136
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: thirteen of twenty for one hundred and eleven yards.

2137
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Now, he didn't put the ball in the danger.

2138
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 18: To his credit sixty five percent, he took sacks instead

2139
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 18: of throwing the ball.

2140
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 2: He took five. Wilson took one as well, and then

2141
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 2: he had ten carries for fifty four yards.

2142
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 3: Right, those ten carries were meaningful.

2143
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: He didn't lose the game.

2144
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: He got the ball a couple of those short passes

2145
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: in that Corol area to Slaton where had a.

2146
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: Couple run after the catch. He didn't make any big mistakes.

2147
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 2: You'd rather have him.

2148
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Look, you don't want to take five sacks, but better

2149
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: taking five sacks than throwing the ball up in the

2150
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: coverage a few times.

2151
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 18: Yes, the beauty of this is that it gives you

2152
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 18: something really positive, a victory to build off of. Yes,

2153
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 18: obviously it wasn't perfect, it wasn't ideal. You're never gonna

2154
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 18: play the perfect games has been said multiple times already,

2155
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 18: but for a team that needed a lift in an

2156
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 18: energy injection, Jackson Dart provided. Even though he's twenty two

2157
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 18: or three years old whatever.

2158
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: That yea, he is in this style with the way

2159
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: he played right the running a lot of as Brian

2160
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Dave will call them loose plays, I'll call them out

2161
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 1: of structure plays.

2162
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win consistently every week playing that way.

2163
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Only to do is win today.

2164
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,839
Speaker 2: And this is what they had to do to win today.

2165
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 1: And as he gets more experienced, Tikie, he's gonna get

2166
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: better at the reading out the defense, getting his foot

2167
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: on the back of the drop and getting the ball

2168
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: out quickly. He's gonna get better at that stuff. But

2169
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: until that happens, and that could take some time for quarterbacks.

2170
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: These types of games where he can run, he can scramble,

2171
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: he can throw on the move, do those type of things.

2172
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: How about broke he brook like three tackles on that

2173
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: one play where he bounced outside.

2174
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:41,560
Speaker 2: Crazy stuff like that.

2175
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: That's gonna help you make one or two plays where

2176
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't make those plays in the Dallas game,

2177
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: But you won't make the plays because darn has those

2178
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: types of special plays.

2179
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: Where you can squeak out a couple of wins. Talked

2180
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 2: about during the pregame show about don't force it. Right,

2181
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 2: he didn't force it.

2182
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 20: He forced a couple of runs and he did go forward.

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Speaker 20: He never slip feet first. Right, he didn't do that yet. Right,

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Speaker 20: he still hasn't learned. He will, he will, he will,

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Speaker 20: at least he had.

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Speaker 3: That one player.

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Speaker 1: We dove forward, and it is Illosh Allen doesn't get it.

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01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't slide feet first either. But again, he's

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Speaker 1: also two hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, he's spilt like a big running back as

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01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 18: opposed to you know, sometimes a quarterback.

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Speaker 20: But you know what, I don't think he threw what

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Speaker 20: your analytics people John will call an interceptible.

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Speaker 2: Ball, turnover worthy playing. No, I don't think he had

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Speaker 2: any of those in this game.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think, well, I don't know who you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: the fumbled snap credit to, but yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's his fault of Schmid's whatever. But again, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, he never put the ball into Harm's way

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Speaker 1: in the air. I think that's absolutely right. Eight one

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Speaker 1: zero one nine. Let's go back to the phones and

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Speaker 1: say what's up to Dan in Huntington, Dan, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 21: Hey guys, I'm my way home from the game. Great

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Speaker 21: to get at w Finally, I want to pick the

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Speaker 21: beautiful day. Yeah, yeah, you know, yes, third down call

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01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 21: with Jackson Dart running up the middle. You know when

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Speaker 21: they went when they went for I love them going

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Speaker 21: for a fourth. I questioned the third down call, but

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Speaker 21: what about the first two runs? The scotted who up

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01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 21: the middle? I mean, at that point, everyone knows scouted

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01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 21: who's getting the ball. The Chargers are sitting on that

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01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 21: run up the middle. Why not a play action pass

2215
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 21: on first down there? I just feel like, you know,

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01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 21: the whole second half, everyone knew scouted who was getting

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Speaker 21: the ball. You know, I think they could have gotten

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01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 21: that would be conservatives Dart, but they could have been

2219
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 21: a little more creative than, you know, than just running the.

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01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: Ball up the middle.

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Speaker 18: I agree, I agree, But I think what Dave's was

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01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 18: trying to do there, and and Mike Kofka, because he's

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01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 18: calling the plays, is create a precedent, thanks and an attitude.

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01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 18: He said it after the game and in the press conference,

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01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 18: he wanted to run the ball in the en zone.

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01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 18: He wanted to score the hard way, the old school way.

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01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 18: And again it's kind of lookheaded. It's like, you know,

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01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 18: he played football. You play football. We get our big

2229
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 18: guys and we smash each other. That is Paulatino football,

2230
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 18: by the way.

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Speaker 3: It feels like that. But that's I think that's what

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01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 3: he was going for.

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Speaker 18: I mean, the identity of this of this game for

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01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 18: Theons was we're gonna smash mouth football. On offense, Camp

2235
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 18: Scattabuo got twenty five carries on the day. You don't

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01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 18: see that in the NFL very often. We're gonna play

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01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 18: great defense and you force you as a as a

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01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 18: as an offense to to deal with our pass rushers

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01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 18: and our and our stoutness up front. And that was

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Speaker 18: just an example that he wanted to drill in and

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01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 18: I think he gave me to drop j.

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01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: I think it's also trying to avoid the negative play right,

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01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Dark took five sacks. You run a play action, he

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01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: takes sack all of a sudden. The running games off

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01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: the take.

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01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,879
Speaker 18: Because you know pressures coming, you know that the Chargers

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01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 18: are putting, you know five or six guys, probably six

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01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 18: or more in the into a pressure type situation. They're

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01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 18: coming on the negative side of the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 18: and that's going to force your quarterback to make a

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01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 18: quick decision that he might not be prepared to do.

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01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: And it gets cloudy in there. There is not a

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01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: lot of space and there are a lot of bodies.

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01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: You know, Daniel Jeremiah talk to us in the pregame show.

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Speaker 1: He says, there's a forest. They want to build a forest.

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01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: And when the quarterback throws at the Chargers defense where

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01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: you can hit a lot of branches, Yeah, when you

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01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: throw the football and there's when you're in that you

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01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: know height red zone. There are a lot of branches

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01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: and a lot of bodies and not of theader room

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Speaker 1: to operate.

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01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 2: And I think they're trying to avoid Paul some of

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01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: those negative plays.

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Speaker 20: Let me throw a bouquet of flowers to the Kafka

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01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 20: for a second, because we talked about the secondary of

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01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 20: the Chargers being very complex, very multiple, and we know

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01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 20: they're gonna play deep and they're gonna take away the

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01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 20: big play, which they did and they did.

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01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 20: After a couple of early throws which Dart did not

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01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,839
Speaker 20: put in harm's way. The guys were not open.

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01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: And he threw them away and Neighbors did draw passing

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Speaker 1: thetheins on one of the yes.

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Speaker 8: Yes.

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01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 20: After that, everything was short to medium range the Giants

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01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 20: on the day.

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Speaker 1: No, again, that doesn't mean they were warrant deep options

2278
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: on those plays, but they but they knew to go

2279
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: to the short stuff, right, and I think by going

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01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: to a couple early long throws which Dart did not

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01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: put in Harm's way at least I told the Chargers,

2282
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 1: you know what, we got to think about it.

2283
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 2: We can't just cheat up and press up on the.

2284
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 20: Line and decide that we're just gonna sell out and

2285
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 20: start wheezing you with the line of scrimmage. I thought

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01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 20: that was actually a significant part of Kafka's game play.

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01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, it was, and you could tell it was instructed right.

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01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 18: Only take the shot if it's there and you feel

2289
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,560
Speaker 18: like you have an advantage. There were a couple I

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01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 18: thought he could have thrown downfield, but it would have

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01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 18: taken a very accurate fifty or sixty yard throw, and

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01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 18: it's almost better that he didn't take those shots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a quick time out.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back from Brian Burns, who had not the

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01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: game clinching sack, but certainly a huge sack at the

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Speaker 1: end of this game to get the Chargers off the field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll squeeze in one more call and we'll wrap

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01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: things up. The Giants defeat the Los Angeles Chargers twenty

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01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: one to eighteen. We'll be right back with more on

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Speaker 1: the fan.

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Speaker 33: This is Brian Burns and you're listening Toans Football on

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Speaker 1: Burns a huge sack at the end of this game

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01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: to bring Justin Herbert down on a third and long

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01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: got the Giants defense off the field helped the Giants

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Speaker 1: secure this victory. Brian Burns addressed the media after the

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Speaker 1: game in the locker room. Let's hear what he had

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01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 20: Brian, the passwush today was a very, very potent. I'm

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01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 20: sure this is kind of what you would expected from

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01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 20: the very get go in the.

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Speaker 8: Season, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was good. Everybody ate

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01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 8: respectfully and it was a good, good day.

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Speaker 20: The sack that you had the third down with about

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01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 20: two and a half minutes to go, that forced down

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Speaker 20: to pluck the football incredibly important play. Look like you

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Speaker 20: extra extra emphasis.

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01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 8: From here and now and up.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, I thanks for that one. We had that play

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 33: called earlier and they kind of hit us for a

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01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 33: big game.

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01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 8: But I told coach to running back and he trusted me.

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01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 8: I trusted him.

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Speaker 20: Could you contrast the feelings of holding this one and

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01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 20: walking it down on the final seconds with a three

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01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 20: point lead as opposed to what happened to Dallas?

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01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 8: He said, how's it feel different?

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01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 33: You know the plays that that we we we lacked

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01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 33: baking in Dallas we made today. So you know that

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01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 33: that's ultimately w why we got this dub. You know

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01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 33: that sacks you know, it was some crucial run stops

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01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 33: that we had, and then you know the way Scatt

2345
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 33: was running the ball.

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Speaker 8: It's just these plays is what we needed in Dallas.

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01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 8: But we you know, corrected it and we got in

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01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 8: the day.

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01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 20: So talking to scattered go on the field, he said

2350
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 20: he knew it was gonna be blinded out.

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Speaker 8: Can tread.

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01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 20: She's probably figured to be a little scoring defensively. You

2353
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 20: you guys know that going there. Do you have to

2354
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 20: pick it up an extra couple of notches to know

2355
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 20: you have to hold down Justin Hubbard.

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Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, that's in the back of your mind.

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Speaker 33: But at the same time, it's like, uh, that always

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Speaker 33: be on our mind, whether we have that situation or not.

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Speaker 8: You understand, Y're always always be on on our mind.

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Speaker 33: As a defense to take the ball away, making these

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01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 33: the ball offense in you know, just out play the

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01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 33: other defense. So the emphasis on on taking the ball

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01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 33: away and making the game easy and starting fast should

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Speaker 33: always be there.

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Speaker 8: But it was definitely the other day.

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Speaker 12: Probably think you couldn't tell like that Justin looked a

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01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 12: little after you hit him.

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Speaker 8: He would a pretty frustrated slam cum.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, I mean yeah, every quarterback gonna feel that way.

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Speaker 33: So we got a lot of hits on him. Honestly,

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Speaker 33: you know, he is gre He's a great quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 33: you have to affect a guy like that, especially with

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01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 33: the weapons that he has. You gotta affect a guy

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01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 33: like that and try to keep him in a box.

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Speaker 33: So I feel like we did that for the most part.

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Speaker 33: You know, we changed it up a little bit. Uh

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Speaker 33: At Duel got a lot a lot more rushers on

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Speaker 33: the edge. I was inside a lot more, you know, uh,

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01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 33: roaming around, So it was a different look, but it

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Speaker 33: was uh successful.

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Speaker 20: Is there anything better where when you scoop the quarterback

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Speaker 20: get frustrated?

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Speaker 8: Huh?

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Speaker 9: Is there anything better as a defensive rusher, you your

2385
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Speaker 9: quarterback get frustrated?

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Speaker 33: At I thought I gonna answer that, But frustration is good, yes, Chris.

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Speaker 20: How was the athletic system up dexta lawrence on the

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Speaker 20: tip bowl?

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Speaker 8: The interstruption that and then you didn't know he got

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Speaker 8: it the race to the end zone. You didn't realize. Nah,

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Speaker 8: I didn't realize during the player. I've seen it on

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Speaker 8: the the screen afterwards. I was in there fighting, so

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Speaker 8: I didn't know what happened.

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Speaker 33: But I mean Dex is amazing, bro Like, so you

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01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 33: know what I'm saying, I credit a lot of uh

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Speaker 33: success me at duing KT also today because you know,

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Speaker 33: just from him being a leader, just from him you know,

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Speaker 33: showing us and crafting us in certain ways in certain

2399
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 33: aspects of our Russius and also just the attention that

2400
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:27,959
Speaker 33: he demands.

2401
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, He's freeing us up a lot.

2402
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 8: I just wanna free him up, you know what I mean.

2403
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 8: That's wanna get as.

2404
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 3: A d I think it directs me probably our quarterbacking

2405
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 3: is first start.

2406
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 15: Getting pople on receptions to the defense, Yes, multiple receptions

2407
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 15: to the defense, to bring it down to your life,

2408
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 15: to give them a short deel.

2409
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 32: But how did it feels the defense to be able.

2410
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 8: To help them out out so great?

2411
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 33: You know that was the plan coming in, you know,

2412
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 33: like I said, I plan should always be taking them

2413
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 33: all the way, but you know, especially in his first start,

2414
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 33: to wanna make.

2415
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 8: It as easy as possible and keep the momentum on outside.

2416
01:41:58,479 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 8: And I feel like we did that, so it feels

2417
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 8: great or you know, helping in that way. All right.

2418
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 25: You mentioned you mentioned making the plays at the end

2419
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:05,720
Speaker 25: of this game that you guys weren't able to two

2420
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 25: weeks ago. Just what did you guys do in the

2421
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 25: time between now and then to be able to make

2422
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 25: those plays?

2423
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 8: And it's really just a game of interest though, Like

2424
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 8: it just come down to making the play.

2425
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 33: It's not really something that I mean, you can tighten

2426
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,560
Speaker 33: up on the details, but as far as when it

2427
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 33: comes to making that play, you just gotta make it,

2428
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 33: you know what I'm saying.

2429
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 8: Like that could have easily been a sack.

2430
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 33: I'm not gonna say easily, but that could have been

2431
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 33: a sack I could have missed, you know what I'm saying.

2432
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 33: It could have been a completion and I should have

2433
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 33: had that. But I made the play, you know what

2434
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 33: I mean. So it just come down the game of interest. Man,

2435
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 33: it's just every e every given Sunday, it's different run

2436
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 33: to see you forget some of.

2437
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 3: Winning the game.

2438
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 5: Like that's a pretty good team that carried over, Like

2439
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 5: you guys always said, we're a good team.

2440
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna get done, flack Shade, it's.

2441
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 8: What you need to see it, right, So like, yeah,

2442
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 8: I enjoyed the game. I enjoy I enjoyed the win.

2443
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 33: Uh I still have enough uh understanding you know just

2444
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,560
Speaker 33: throughout my years that that game was still sloppy in

2445
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 33: a lot of ways.

2446
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 8: And it's okay though, but cause that end of the day,

2447
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 8: we got to go. You know what I'm saying, I

2448
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 8: understand that.

2449
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 33: So we still need to get back to the drawing

2450
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 33: board and fix up those things because it may not

2451
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 33: be like that Nick times.

2452
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 3: Christis Jackson's physicality when he is running.

2453
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 8: That scares me.

2454
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 33: Actually, I love it. It gets us hype, you know

2455
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 33: what I'm saying. I love when he dropped his shoulder

2456
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 33: and everything like that, but I sometimes like him to

2457
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 33: just take the slab.

2458
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: That's Brian Burns. After the game, I'm gonna show some

2459
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: love to the defense here. This is in reverse order.

2460
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with that Brian Burns sack and then

2461
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: two other big defensive plays by the Giants defense today.

2462
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 4: Shotgun set third and nine for the Chargers, forty six

2463
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 4: bunch formation right, Herbert back to throw Chase by Burns.

2464
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:45,480
Speaker 17: Sucked by Burns at the thirty yard line, loss of sixteen.

2465
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 3: Spider Man does it again. Herbert called signal.

2466
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 4: Shotgun set three receivers bunched right, takes the snap back

2467
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 4: to throw fires one right, intercepted.

2468
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 3: By Drew Felps, but they're gonna get called for interference.

2469
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 4: Phillips across the forty thirty five down the left sideline

2470
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 4: fifteen and tripped up at the three yard line.

2471
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 3: Hervert from the shotgun looks right, fires at white battle.

2472
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 17: The flock intercepted by Dexter Lawrence. He's running down the

2473
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 17: left side to the fifteen.

2474
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 30: Ten five and he is duck down at the one

2475
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 30: by Herbert.

2476
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 17: Sexy dexty Lawrence for his first career interception and the

2477
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 17: Giants will have it first and a A one.

2478
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 2: Three huge game changing plays by the defense.

2479
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: I should note on that Phillips interception there was an

2480
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: interference penalty, but it was on the offense, so the

2481
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: interception held and a pressure Brian Burns on that play

2482
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:41,640
Speaker 1: forced Herbert to get rid of that ball maybe a

2483
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 1: little bit sooner than he wanted to.

2484
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 2: He had a quarterback hit on the play.

2485
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: And look, Tiki, the Giant's only had two hundred and

2486
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: fifty yards of offense in this game.

2487
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 22: I know it.

2488
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 2: They got out game by seventy five.

2489
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 18: Yard true, but they ran sixty nine plays, as we

2490
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 18: talked about earlier, compared to what the Chargers ran, and

2491
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 18: while they were, they weren't fully efficient, but they were

2492
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 18: and keeping an explosive offense off the field. And sometimes

2493
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 18: you have to game plan in unique ways. It's not

2494
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 18: we're just gonna outscore them, it's let's frustrate them to

2495
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 18: the point where they they can't operate as efficiently as

2496
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 18: they have been.

2497
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: And that only works if your defense plays well. It's

2498
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 1: the point if your defense is not getting off the field,

2499
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 1: you can't play.

2500
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 2: That way right.

2501
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 18: And you got to give the defense credit because they

2502
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 18: made impactful plays the three or four that you just played,

2503
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 18: but they also didn't bend and really give up the

2504
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,879
Speaker 18: huge plays that the Chargers have been relying upon.

2505
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 3: These first three weeks of the season. Remember during the pregame.

2506
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 20: Show we talked about Dexter Lawrence and said, when is

2507
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 20: he going to be impactful and be really dexter a

2508
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 20: this year?

2509
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: Well guess what he was now this week.

2510
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 20: That is the first Giants defensive tackle interception since twenty seventeen,

2511
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 20: when Snacks Harrison picked off picked off Alex Smith who

2512
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 20: did a shovel to Kelsey. He bobbled it, popped it

2513
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 20: up in the air and Snacks caught it, and that

2514
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 20: is the first Giants defensive lineman interception since twenty twenty

2515
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 20: when Nico Lallos, who was an.

2516
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 2: Edge rusher, had an interception.

2517
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 18: If you can believe that, don't even know remember that

2518
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 18: one Dex also was that was a pressure for Decks.

2519
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 18: He probably didn't get it because of the interception, but

2520
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 18: he got through clean too. The into the backfield and

2521
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 18: forced Justin Herbert to make a tough throw and he

2522
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 18: tipped it up to himself and took it down into the.

2523
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 3: Tight red area.

2524
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again those are the types of the game

2525
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: changing defensive plays. The Giants need that defensive front to

2526
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 1: make if they want to win football games. Moving forward,

2527
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 1: eight it oh eight one zero one nine eight eight

2528
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: ita eight one zero one nine.

2529
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Vincent, New Jersey. He's on next.

2530
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 26: Great game today. Let's go happy to get a win.

2531
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 14: We're just we were there.

2532
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 29: It was so exciting to watch.

2533
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 14: Star is definitely the truth, and we're happy with that.

2534
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 14: I just have a quick question for you guys.

2535
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 26: I'm just curious from a strategic standpoint this, especially for

2536
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 26: U Tiki, why do they keep going to the shotgun

2537
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 26: within the ten, within the five yard line instead of

2538
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 26: just going under center and pounded it in with skataboat.

2539
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 18: Honestly, I think it's because quarterbacks these days aren't used

2540
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 18: to being under centers. They thought when they were backed

2541
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 18: up coming out, you know the sequence that we talked

2542
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 18: about where they you save the fumble, Andrew Thomas recovers

2543
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 18: the fumble and then they punted sixty seven yards and

2544
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 18: ultimately it led to an interception that didn't led to

2545
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 18: their final touchdown. Quarterbacks just aren't used to it. It

2546
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 18: never did it, adn't. He never did it at ole

2547
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 18: Miss and it's it's different. It seems simple.

2548
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 3: It really does.

2549
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 18: Like you cause you and your head, you can like

2550
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 18: remember yourself as a kid doing it, you know, with

2551
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 18: your friends, like a snap it to me. And but

2552
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 18: the mechanism is so hard for in the NFL because

2553
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 18: these centers get low because they're looking up, their butts

2554
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 18: are coming down trying to identify schemes. It forces the

2555
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 18: quarterback to sometimes go down low and then he's back

2556
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 18: up high. And so it's just easier to do it

2557
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 18: out of shotgun. But in certain situations it's you need

2558
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 18: the ball quickly to the back. Therefore you go under

2559
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 18: center shotgun, it just takes longer to get the ball

2560
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 18: to the running back.

2561
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 20: Taking the deep red zone has been a problem. They

2562
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 20: haven't been able to get that push in the running

2563
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 20: game to punch it in. How much do they miss

2564
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 20: not having a real full back.

2565
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the full back. I think

2566
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:14,639
Speaker 3: some of it is scheme.

2567
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 18: The Giants have really for the last couple of years

2568
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 18: been heavily dependent on duo running. So what's duo running.

2569
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,799
Speaker 18: Duo running is basically a power run without a puller.

2570
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 18: So you get two interior offensive linemen blocking the three technique,

2571
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 18: yet the other two on the other side blocking you know,

2572
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 18: the nose tackle, and you just want to get pushed.

2573
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 18: The easier way is to run inside zone. Inside zone

2574
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 18: is when the offensive line moves, you know, slants right

2575
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 18: or left, and you sometimes you bring a puller to

2576
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 18: kick out the backside. The challenge with inside zone, though,

2577
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 18: when you're in the tight red area is that defensive

2578
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 18: linemen are geared up to just create chaos and so

2579
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 18: you're gonna get leakage. It just gets really difficult. It's why,

2580
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 18: you know, you know, twenty years ago, when I was

2581
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 18: playing Brandon Jacobs and I we would do these tight

2582
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 18: red zone and short yarded situations out of bunches because

2583
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,839
Speaker 18: it would force you to declare, you know, a coverage

2584
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 18: like you'd have to put someone over top of one

2585
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 18: of these wide receivers and then you'd run power right.

2586
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 18: So a bunch of left and you run a power

2587
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 18: to the right side with some motion. It's just harder

2588
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 18: to scheme all that stuff in today's NFL. I'm just

2589
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 18: glad Greg Cormela and Jim Finn are not listening to

2590
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 18: you right now. Well, I mean the position has gone

2591
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 18: away because the offense has become spread, right, it's useful

2592
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 18: in certain situations. You know, Scott Matt what's his name,

2593
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 18: Matt Matlock, Matt Locke for for the Chargers. He's a

2594
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 18: three hundred and three hundred pounds full back. He basically

2595
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 18: was a former D lineman, but they they bring him

2596
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 18: in for those situations. But trying to be their version

2597
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 18: of Patrick Carter. But he's a D lineman, you know

2598
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 18: what I mean, just kind of playing full back. All right,

2599
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 18: I want to squeeze in one more call before we go.

2600
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 18: Let's go to John and has the new jersey. John,

2601
01:49:58,960 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 18: what's going on.

2602
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 12: Man, Hey, guys, So I watched this game on a flight,

2603
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 12: entertaining and annoying everyone around me as I'm trying to

2604
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 12: stifle my reactions.

2605
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 26: Was kind of funny.

2606
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 3: I love it.

2607
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 26: So I love the game.

2608
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 12: Dart was what I expected, you know, today as a rookie.

2609
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 12: The the Twitter trolls are just it's amazing. They're already

2610
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 12: know people are already out there. Oh, he shouldn't be

2611
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 12: making these mistakes. He you know, he's trash. I'm like

2612
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 12: he looked back at first year stat Yes they are.

2613
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 12: It's it's it's sickening. But look back at Eli's first

2614
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 12: year stacked and talking about pedestrian like Simms, this guy.

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01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: Went choose pedestrians actually friendly? Yeah, I would say, John

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 1: I was. I would say pedestrian would be a nice

2617
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 1: way to put in his first year.

2618
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: The only good, the only thing that matters is winning

2619
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 2: though yeah doesn't matter.

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01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 18: I thank you, John, appreciate it. John Jackson Dark completed

2621
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 18: sixty five percent of his passes. He only threw for

2622
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 18: one hundred and eleven yards. He didn't make any mistakes.

2623
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 18: He took sacks, which is which is.

2624
01:50:59,200 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2625
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 18: It gets frustrating. And discouraging, et cetera, because it sometimes

2626
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 18: puts you behind the chains. But you felt like he

2627
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 18: was always in control. There was never a moment in

2628
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 18: this game with Jackson Darted quarterback where you felt like, man,

2629
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 18: he's swimming.

2630
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 2: He has no idea, he's just trying to tread water.

2631
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 3: He looks lost. I never felt that, and that's encouraging.

2632
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,599
Speaker 3: He's a rookie and this is his first start.

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01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 18: Granted it's at home, but it was also against a

2634
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 18: very good Chargers defense.

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01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why in the pregame I think I used

2636
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: the phrase three or four times, do not think your

2637
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback's gonna come in here and save you.

2638
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 3: That's not what this is going to be.

2639
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: The Chargers are awesome defensively.

2640
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: You could tell, and again I want to keep this

2641
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 1: positive here, but you could tell when Jackson Dard had

2642
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 1: to drop back and read the defense down the field.

2643
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he knew what he was looking at, right,

2644
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,600
Speaker 1: And but that's okay. You don't expect that in a

2645
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: rookie's first game.

2646
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 2: It's okay because he didn't panic.

2647
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: Correct he didn't and as sometimes he held the ball

2648
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 1: a little bit because he wasn't sure where to go

2649
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: within him. By the way, we all have to rewatch

2650
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 1: the game that no one was open, I don't know,

2651
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: we have to relook at It was one play early

2652
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: where neighbors was open. I think on a sale round.

2653
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: He didn't see him. Whatever, But that's fine. That should

2654
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 1: be expected for a rookie quarterbacks first game. The fact

2655
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: that he didn't panic. He had pretty good pocket presence.

2656
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: A couple of times, maybe he ran out of a

2657
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: clean pocket here or there, but for the most part,

2658
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 1: he didn't panic when there was guys in his face.

2659
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 2: That's what you want.

2660
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: And now, does the other stuff have to get better

2661
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 1: if you want long term sustained success.

2662
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but it should be. He's a hard worker, he cares,

2663
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 2: and he's smart. So be patient.

2664
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 1: Give the kids some time they get better at that stuff.

2665
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let the stuff he can do carry

2666
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: you to some of these things. I agreed, And that's

2667
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: what That's what this giant game plan is going to

2668
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: be going forward. You know, Day's made it clear right

2669
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 1: this is this is an opportunity for this kid, and

2670
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: it's one that they desperately feel like they needed.

2671
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 18: The play calling is just different with Jackson Dart. We

2672
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 18: said it when we first started the post game. It

2673
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 18: feels different. He's a dog in so many different ways,

2674
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 18: and he encourages and and I think motivates his team

2675
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 18: in ways that, regardless about Russell Wilson was he couldn't do.

2676
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 18: Jackson dartt is starting the future of his career with

2677
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 18: here at the New York Giants, and I think it's

2678
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 18: off to a good start, if for nothing else, and

2679
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 18: the fact that he won a football game, which is

2680
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 18: something that Giants had trouble doing for the last three years.

2681
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 3: Yep, Paul.

2682
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:18,719
Speaker 1: Final thoughts as we head into the game next weeks,

2683
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: since well, there's.

2684
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 20: No doubt it is a gut punch to see what

2685
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 20: league neighbors get hurt in this game. And we know

2686
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 20: that as happy as we are for Jackson Dart, he

2687
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 20: now has to navigate an extra hurdle as a rookie quarterback,

2688
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 20: knowing that his most explosive player is not going to

2689
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 20: be available for quite a while and the rest of

2690
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 20: that wide receiver room, and we talk about this all

2691
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 20: the time, guy's got to step up and make plays

2692
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 20: above the ex's and the o's. Well, Dart is not

2693
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 20: gonna be in a position as he's moved forward to

2694
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,719
Speaker 20: say I'm gonna throw it up in that area because

2695
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 20: I think that Neighbors can make a play. Because I

2696
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 20: don't know that there's another receiver on this team that

2697
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 20: you can do that with.

2698
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 2: Right, who's the other fifty to fifty ball guy. There

2699
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 2: isn't one really.

2700
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 18: I mean, maybe Bo Collins can develop into that because

2701
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 18: he's a bigger guy, but there isn't a proven one yet.

2702
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 18: And that's been a big part of what Daves wants,

2703
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 18: especially when you get man looks on the outside taking

2704
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 18: your loss down heading into next week. I mean, it's

2705
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 18: you got one win, you gotta start trying to stack them.

2706
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 18: You know, not that the Saints are, you know, one

2707
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 18: of the premier teams in the league, but it's it's

2708
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 18: a game that the Giants should feel like they're supposed

2709
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 18: to win.

2710
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 2: It's on the road. It's always tough to win down there. Historically,

2711
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 2: it's been tough.

2712
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 18: And I hate, you know, using history to judge anything,

2713
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 18: but it's been tough for the Giants down there. This

2714
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 18: is a get take what you learned and you grew

2715
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 18: from in Week four here and a big win against

2716
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 18: the Chargers.

2717
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 3: And take it on the road with you.

2718
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, the Giants had their big spark

2719
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: at home starring the rookie quarterback. This week, we'll see

2720
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 1: if the Saints try to do the same thing with

2721
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Shook. This week, we'll see if Spencer Ratler goes

2722
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: back behind center for them. In week number five, they

2723
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: lost thirty one nineteen to the Bills. Rattler through for

2724
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 1: about one hundred and thirty or forty yards. They hung

2725
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 1: around for a minute. But the Bills are just a

2726
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 1: superior team. Yeah, probably the best team in football right now.

2727
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 18: Yes, And given the Chargers loss to the Giants here,

2728
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 18: but they hung around, so they didn't they're not quitting.

2729
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 1: And they certainly played better than did the previous week

2730
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 1: when they were absolutely obliterated in that game by the Vikings.

2731
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Right the Vikings hold two weeks ago. All right, folks,

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Speaker 1: Giants defeat the Los Angeles Chargers twenty one to eighteen.

2754
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 1: I only call them the San Diego Chargers once I

2755
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: wanted to be zero. I didn't call him John Harbor,

2756
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 1: though I did call him Jim Harper every time, which

2757
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: was a good one. So I was one out of

2758
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 1: two on my little ticks that I thought I would

2759
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 1: screw up today, So everybody, for our entire crew, from

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2761
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Speaker 1: and our entire crew behind the scenes. Excellent work as always.

2762
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Gordon Damer, coming your way next right here on the Fan.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Giants defeat the Chargers twenty one eighteen on the Wfan

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