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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast uses beer products. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Jansas, coming to you from a stadium filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Secler, Chris Wesley, and Greg rose Ball.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? It is that time every year without fail,

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Speaker 1: late February, the scientists go into the lab and they

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Speaker 1: the toll of the battle as they fought to make

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Speaker 1: a list together, not as combatants, but as allies. And

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Speaker 1: when they were done, they held it up high the top,

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Speaker 1: one on one free agents of so stupid. They did it.

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Speaker 1: They did it. Boys. How was the exercise this year?

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Speaker 1: All of that just to put Graham Glass call at

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Speaker 1: number forty four? It was better because West insisted this

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Speaker 1: year while we were down in the in the lab

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Speaker 1: to play that Jaws theme on repeat four months. As

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Speaker 1: you saw, I think you mean brain fart there for

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Speaker 1: two trying to be human there in the backfired. We've

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Speaker 1: been in Indianapolis too long already. I uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: this conversation actually will be the first I think that

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Speaker 1: we had about this stuff. What we never spoke about it.

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Speaker 1: Are you at there? Are you at the Beatles late period?

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Speaker 1: Like let it be era where you're going into the

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Speaker 1: studio and laying down your individual parts and then it's

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Speaker 1: I would say that's an apt in allogy well that

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Speaker 1: I would say that was always it we All it

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Speaker 1: is is we make a top one hundred list and

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Speaker 1: then our editors, um, you know, combined the who lists

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Speaker 1: we did used to kind of talk through once they

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Speaker 1: now it's like we're that much closer to death, and

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Speaker 1: do we need to use that time to uh move

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Speaker 1: take care of it for us. So does this mean

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Speaker 1: that Ali buon Puri is your phil specter? Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he lets us know if we missed anyone and and

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Speaker 1: uh so he's he's he truly deserves the credit. Break

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Speaker 1: we break ties, please, I mean please, So if if

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard um the show before the special and

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Speaker 1: we've done it a couple of years down, and if

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Speaker 1: you haven't more importantly read the top one on one

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Speaker 1: free Agents of You could check it out at NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com slash top one of one free Agents, Top

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Speaker 1: one on one free Agents Top one on one feels

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Speaker 1: don't make these decisions. Phil Specter does. Phil Specter makes

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Speaker 1: bad decisions times, as we've learned. Um, So check that out.

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Speaker 1: And it's a great list. And and Mark and I

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on are going to reveal our

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Speaker 1: top one oh one. Uh, it will be the six

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. That's where the Jaws music comes in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I said, So it's something of a

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Speaker 1: And gentlemen, um your list, which for the record, begins

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Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. But right off the top, you weren't

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones Number one I did. I approached it a

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Speaker 1: little bit differently this year. There's always that question when

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Speaker 1: you do it by who's the straight out better player.

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Speaker 1: And to me, Chris Jones was the best player available

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Speaker 1: putting them second on on my individual list than I

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Speaker 1: was four years ago. Five years ago. You can't get

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Speaker 1: away with the statue in the pocket a stone Age pony,

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Speaker 1: as Mark likes to say. I By the way, Greg,

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Speaker 1: the old zeuser took Tom Brady out of the Superstar Club.

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Speaker 1: That's how they played it as well. Brady moves units

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what Chris Sims says a

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Speaker 1: better list. It just doesn't mean. But you like it though,

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Speaker 1: Here's the top ten on the list. Okay, it's Dak

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Speaker 1: I love is a beautiful blurb, very enjoyable read overall.

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Speaker 1: I I love this article because uh, I get half

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Speaker 1: anyone that reads both of you a lot will also

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Speaker 1: back on track, Mark, what what's something that jumped out

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Speaker 1: crazy to me, and I know he seems like he is.

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00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: But this guy was arguably the best wide receiver in football.

428
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: He's still should be in his prime. He's about thirty

429
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: thirty one now and he's completely out of football. And

430
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not, you know, um, like I said,

431
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: on an exempt list. He's just a guy that's been

432
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: deemed poison. Yeah, but think correct. Yeah. The question is

433
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: what does a you know, a forward thinking front office

434
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Speaker 1: decide to pay him. How do you actually you know,

435
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: prepare for next season around a personality like that, and

436
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: is it in the best interest of Antonio Brown? To

437
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: even be part of a football team where there seemed

438
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: to be, you know, multiple black clouds of other issues

439
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: happening in his actual life. And do all the women

440
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: in your city you have to leave town when he

441
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: gets there. I've I've got all fair questions. I've would

442
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: be a logistical issue. I've got one point I do

443
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Speaker 1: want to make on Gino Smith, which you brought up. Wow, okay,

444
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: circling back. I'm circling back. So um to two quarterbacks

445
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: have made it to the division around of the playoffs

446
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: in the last two years total total. Okay too. You

447
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: want to know who they were? Pat Patrick Mahomes and

448
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: Gino freaking Smith. You bring Gno in, You're gonna have

449
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: a winner. You're gonna win a playoff game. Who does

450
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Philip Rivers look to for guidance? Gino

451
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: on the sidelines? Hey, what are you seeing? Gino? Yeah?

452
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: I mean Gino Smith's job at this point is to

453
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Speaker 1: like turn on the VCR in the tape room. And

454
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: around two straight years. Eric Ebron at sixty three, he

455
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: was an interesting guy to me. He's a couple of

456
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Speaker 1: years removed, um from what about fifteen touchdowns with Andrew

457
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Luck disappeared a little bit last year. Uh, maybe in

458
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Speaker 1: the right situation he could return to being a big

459
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: time red zone threat. He's a guy that's still very

460
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Speaker 1: young or young. Your analysis on this list has been

461
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: on point, man, and I agree with you everything you said.

462
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: He is a guy in the right situation who could

463
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Speaker 1: make you look really good. But what are the odds

464
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Speaker 1: that he lands in the right situation and his hands

465
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Speaker 1: don't fail him and he comes up big like he

466
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Speaker 1: did for that like three months stretch with the Colts

467
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Speaker 1: when he was on fire. But that three months stretches

468
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: an outlier for his right That's that's the thing. A

469
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: six year career and a lot of mental airs. Even

470
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Speaker 1: in that year, the Colts never quite fully embraced him

471
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Speaker 1: as a guy they'd play every snap because they didn't

472
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Speaker 1: think he was reliable, so he'd be He's an interesting

473
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Speaker 1: pick up. Though you got you got Greg the leg

474
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Speaker 1: Zer line. On this list, he is in the eighties

475
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Speaker 1: six spot. We have any other kickers? I just need

476
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: to be plugged in on Well, Mason Crosby just resigned

477
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: or else he might have made it, So that's not

478
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Speaker 1: I think that Crosby was on my he was in

479
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Speaker 1: my top ninety I think. But someone's leg up. Yeah,

480
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: you get you get the nickname West. I have a

481
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: question for you, what you said you knew this was coming.

482
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Speaker 1: One player that we disagreed on I don't think it

483
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Speaker 1: was Jpp. No, there was only one that I was

484
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: really like, come on, Greg, and we talked about him

485
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: in December, and it was Nick Kwatkowski, the Bears linebacker

486
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Speaker 1: who I had in the top fifty and Greig must

487
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Speaker 1: have had like ninety eight or something. A guy who

488
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: when Danny Trevathan went down, quiet Kowski went in the

489
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: lineup and just made play after play after play every week.

490
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: He sandwiched in between Sue and McCoy. I put him

491
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Speaker 1: on my list. That's just a little love to you.

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00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: Eight one. You know, he's a fine, fine backup middle

493
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: linebacker that came in and and made some plays. I'm

494
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: not gonna go crazy. You like these slow middle linebackers.

495
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: You put Dave David Mayo on your Listide, where do

496
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Speaker 1: you get You're right, Dan, I have a quick quiz

497
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: for you on the who wrote this blurb? Now? I

498
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: know that when you get to number eighty and Marcus

499
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: Mariota sitting there. Yeah, we hear about the Japanese Garden

500
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: of Quarterbacking, the art of quarterbacking and Mariotta sphinx like

501
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: regression already, footwork, arm strength, and pocket prisons. I know

502
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: West wrote that, but then let me hit this one.

503
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: Linebacker Devandre Campbell quick blurbs, so that kind of threw

504
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: me off. Is this West is a Greg? The Falcons

505
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: once held high hopes for Campbell as an athletic three

506
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: down sidekick to Dion Jones. But Robin never stepped out

507
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: of the shadows to thwart potent offenses with cruel intentions

508
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: when bats wasn't around, because Greg would never make a

509
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: Batman and Robin analogy. It's have you ever? Have you ever?

510
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: Have you seen any Batman film? Or ever watched any

511
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: vehicle cartoon or television wise about back yes, back in

512
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: the day. You know I would see the original Batman, certainly,

513
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: But Batman begins the one with Christian Bale I believe

514
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: is actually the last superhero movie I've seen in the theater.

515
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of a slog I haven't seen the first

516
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: one that brought about Katie Holmes not bringing a lot

517
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: to the table. The blurbs are so distinct that there

518
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Speaker 1: really are you this bet your life thing, like when

519
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: we go back to the Batman thing, the second thing

520
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: those are Those aren't just comic those are Christopher Nolan movies. Yeah,

521
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: that's why I went to see it. And I'm such

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Speaker 1: a Christen Bale fan that Dark Knight is one of

523
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: the classics. I've never seen any of the two thousand's.

524
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: The Dark Knight Rises was good, not as good. I

525
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: don't vouch for any of the Marvel stuff, But I mean,

526
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: you're coming on Nolan's corner. I'm not saying it's back.

527
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: You're trying to like lump him in with Iron Man seven.

528
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, this will come as no surprise

529
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: to you. But when I was thinking of this blurb,

530
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: it was like he was award I watched. I watched

531
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: a little of that. How about the fact that here

532
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: in Marcus Mariota's biggest fan over the years buries him.

533
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: That's Chris Wesley, by the way, buries him at one

534
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: oh eight on his list. I actually put Mariota at

535
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Speaker 1: in my top sixty just because I thought, you don't

536
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: know Mariota in a new spot, he'd be a top

537
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: shelf back up at the very worst, and to me

538
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: that that has a lot of value. I disagree on

539
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: the value of a top shelf back up. I mean

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00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: that we hear too. We heard this week that you

541
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: know the Browns are excited to bring in Chase Daniel

542
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: Give me a break at backup quarterbacks have value of

543
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Chase Daniels value. Marcus Mariota has more. Jimmy Smith, who

544
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: was four four spots below Marcus Mariota, came back about

545
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: halfway through last year and played really well down the stretch.

546
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: I'd much rather have Jimmy Smith on my team than

547
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. He was someone I buried just because his

548
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: injuries seem at the point where he misses three or

549
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: four games every year. The name another player you guys

550
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: disagreed on, you know significantly in terms of the placement.

551
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Is there another player that jumps out well? If I

552
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: rated quarterbacks higher, I think West put some of the

553
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: path rushers who I like, like the aging pass rushers

554
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: who are more like one or two year guys higher.

555
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: He had Robert Quinn quite high top thirty. I thought

556
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: that was one of the best years of Robert Quinn's career.

557
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: It was downright explosive last year he was. I just

558
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: that he's some unwe are you're looking at the last

559
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: four years and has like ebro as he put together

560
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: long stretches where he's great. I put him fifty one.

561
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: But man, there's a lot of those guys. If you

562
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: need someone for a year or two that can sack

563
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback, there are a lot of players available. What

564
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: are you guys doing taking my man Mario Addison, who

565
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: I went to Italy and Germany with and sticking him

566
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: down at number a hundred just disrespect well. I will

567
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: say this though he it's not like he vanished for

568
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: the past three years. He's been productive last year. We

569
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: might be a little underrated on this list. I think

570
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: you're right is that's a fair quibble. And I think

571
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: one of the tricky things with pass rushers how do

572
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: you rank the guys who gets sex but not hits

573
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: or hurries. And it seems like every time Mario Mario

574
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Addison gets to a quarterback, he takes him down, but

575
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: he's not causing a lot of disruption on the other downs.

576
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: All right, So that's cool. We're having a great talk

577
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna you know, get back to in a second.

578
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: But Mark, I think I think it's only fair that

579
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: we get the Jaws treatment as well. It us to

580
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: the stormy waters. Because while while the scientists were in

581
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: the lab, Mark and I were up in the kitchen

582
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: and we weren't making eggs. I seen Mark was a

583
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: mcanny Mark called krem rule before we started today, burnt

584
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: looking cheese. It's a very standard dessert that's beside the park.

585
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: As we have long teethed, we have put together our

586
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: version of the Top one on one, Yeah, Flames, you

587
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: heard it, heads and Mr fancy Pants our Top one

588
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: on one of two thousand twenty free Agency start take

589
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: it away. Well, it does not arrive without controversy. I

590
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: think that's very fair, because you know, I spent half

591
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: the morning reading through your list and and and looking

592
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: at your work, and then I went back and cross checked.

593
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: I cross checked your list with the list that Dan

594
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: and I made up in the kitchen. And this, to

595
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: me is either the most stunning thing that's ever happened

596
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: in the history of list making in sports, or or

597
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't or something very dark has occurred. But our

598
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: list was from head to toe identical save four on

599
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: one spot. You guys have uh Bills turned Eagles quarterback

600
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby at number seventy three and Carlos Hide at

601
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: number seventy four. Dan and I on our list, the

602
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: only discernible difference that I could detect had Carlos Hide

603
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: at seventy three and Ronald Darby. That's ridiculous, though, that's

604
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: really ridiculous, Dan, what conclusion did we come Carlos Hide

605
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: had a really nice season, not a superstar season, But

606
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: I just think with Darby and his injury issues with

607
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: the knee, um, Hide was just the guy he was

608
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: seventy three and it just makes it a better list.

609
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: And we believe you and I had a nice conversation

610
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: about that before we flipped it. But you won me

611
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: over with your you know, Hide sort of comeback story,

612
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: and I thought, yes, you're right. It's time for me

613
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: and Greg to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

614
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: And we're not saying the same you had DJA. Everything

615
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: else was. There was a period where Dan and I

616
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: were not at thee for a couple of days and

617
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: I missed this. I should not have done this. This

618
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: is on me. But I printed out our list, UM

619
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: and I put it on Dan's list to look at

620
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: when he came in, and then he had a family

621
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: issue and couldn't be in there for a day or two.

622
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: And then suddenly bang alibon party. Which is your guys

623
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: list that looks just like ours and ours it's not

624
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: even put on the website, so I don't want to connect,

625
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, a billions phil spect. So you know, I

626
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: am just saying that, I I let's just leave it

627
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: there and let the lawyers take the baton. Surprising you

628
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: guys both you had How are you? That was a

629
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: no brainer that I mean, that's actually where we started

630
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: our list, and then we worked our way in each direction.

631
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: Um last game mark for the who wrote the blurb,

632
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: it's a tough one number thirty six my boy Robby Anderson.

633
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Deep speed gets paid, and Anderson has plenty of it.

634
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: He often disappointed his Jets coaches, however, and it's too

635
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: talented to have fewer than eight hundred yards in each

636
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: of the last two seasons. Well, and this is Greg.

637
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Greg has a lot of specialties. One of them is

638
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: he is very when it comes to these players, you know,

639
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Speaker 1: focused on the money they'll make and the in coming

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Speaker 1: the earnings in the year over years. So the minute

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Speaker 1: I heard gets paid, I went, Greg, I could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but it's also a nice brief clip blurb. If you

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Speaker 1: if you deep, did you die of? A little deeper

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Speaker 1: into the subtext here could be a little risky. It's

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I think I don't where you're going, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, definitely more pithy than I am. I'm you're saying.

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Speaker 1: You're saying, Oh, the guy with the last name Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: That's that's where you're going with it. You are you have?

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Speaker 1: When about Mark is wearing a star lace right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean I When it comes to player contracts, West

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Speaker 1: says he doesn't understand time management scenarios. I also do not,

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Speaker 1: but I also do not do much when it comes

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Speaker 1: to smart I'm right, of course he's right. Robbie uh

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Speaker 1: Anderson could be well, he's not as highly ranked as

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Speaker 1: Lady and Bell a year ago, but we we might

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Speaker 1: have vote he he'll he's a boom er bust guy.

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Speaker 1: Either he'll be like a terrific pick up or he'll

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Speaker 1: be a total disaster. You think he's the land in

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Speaker 1: the right place. He's on the knucklehead list and he's

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Speaker 1: he's he kept his nose clean last year. But if

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Speaker 1: you do some research on his past, give him a

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Speaker 1: lot of money, how is he can handle it? You

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Speaker 1: don't know these guys. You gotta worry about certain guys

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Speaker 1: that have the history. Like if it was my team

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Speaker 1: and you have a choice between Emmanuel Sanders and Robbie Anderson,

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Speaker 1: obviously they've provide two very different skill sets. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just taking Emmanuel Sanders and not worrying about the risk

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Speaker 1: of Robbie Anderson. I think that's fair. Alright. Final thoughts,

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Speaker 1: final takeaways on the free agency top one on one

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Speaker 1: list of well I now my number one takeaway is

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Speaker 1: that we need to put a franchise tag symbol by

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Speaker 1: these guys like we suggested. But um, I do think

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Speaker 1: if you look at this list, the original list before

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Speaker 1: the tags come in, you look at front seven on

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Speaker 1: defense and say it's pretty loaded. That's where you can

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Speaker 1: get help this year, even after the tags come in.

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Speaker 1: I think you're you're right because those guys that we

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Speaker 1: mentioned j PP, Quinn Everson, Griffin, Dante Fowler, the guy

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Speaker 1: guys that aren't the top shelf guys, there's like depth

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Speaker 1: there where those are above average quality starters, and like

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Speaker 1: we just went through tight ends and it takes like

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Speaker 1: one name until you get to at tackle, it's like

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Speaker 1: a couple of names. It's Brian Bulaga maybe. Whereas pass

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Speaker 1: rushers defensive lineman like Hargrave and DJ Reader, who I

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Speaker 1: like a lot, you can you can find some of those.

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Speaker 1: And my last, my last takeaway, just taking one war

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Speaker 1: glance at it is jadeveon Clowney. He has a chance

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Speaker 1: to be paid as much as anyone on this list.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you guess, we'll see and we know

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Speaker 1: the the analysis, and I see you guys went with

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Speaker 1: this angle. A lot of people do. Like what he

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Speaker 1: does doesn't always show up in the box score. But

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Speaker 1: I if Seattle Seahawks aren't going after him aggressively, a

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Speaker 1: team that desperately desperately needs a pass rush and they

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Speaker 1: decide we're gonna just buy two guys instead of paying

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Speaker 1: for Clowney, I mean I would just be a little worried.

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Speaker 1: Like the Giant has been connected with clown AGAs some

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Speaker 1: people see that given that guy all that money, when

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Speaker 1: statistically health wise it hasn't. He hasn't always put it together. Well.

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Speaker 1: I had a three sacks season, three sacks, but he

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Speaker 1: could be the highest paid player, and he might make

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Speaker 1: more than Aaron Donald. It's possible Saddle wants him back.

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Speaker 1: They said they did what right if you? If you

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Speaker 1: believe him, he falls under that parcels planet theory. There's

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Speaker 1: only so many people on the planet that have this

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Speaker 1: guy's athleticism and body back to back. Clowney at four

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Speaker 1: and he's the biggest risk on this list to me,

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a broken record, but Shack

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Speaker 1: Barrett at five. They're gonna pay him. He's probably let it.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably stay right in Tampa Bay. But does it

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Speaker 1: ever concern you? No, no, no no, does it ever concern

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Speaker 1: you when a player has like one huge breakout season

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Speaker 1: and then do you just you just say, we assume

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Speaker 1: that's the way the future is gonna happen. I hope

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Speaker 1: it is. I think he found a great landing spot

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Speaker 1: and it works. There was like a eight week window

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Speaker 1: where he had about three sacks, I believe, and then

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Speaker 1: he just went nuts in the beginning. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. It was his real first big breakout years.

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Speaker 1: So I get, I get what you're saying, but you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of tauld work factor of factoring a

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Speaker 1: lot of things with these guys, and that's one thing

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Speaker 1: you factor in. But then you also offset that a

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Speaker 1: little bit by saying when he was in Denver, he

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Speaker 1: was behind von Miller and DeMarcus Ware or von Miller

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Speaker 1: and Bradley Chubb, and he was still getting pressure when

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Speaker 1: he was coming off the bench. So he was a

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Speaker 1: guy who was disruptive even when he was a rotational

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Speaker 1: guy there. And one, one last one is just man.

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has a chance to just sweep sweep out

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Speaker 1: this whole era. Not just Tom Brady, which would be

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Speaker 1: the way to really do it, but Van Noy, Devin mccordy,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Collins, Stephen Gostkowski. I think could get cut and

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Speaker 1: end up at the back end of this list, or

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Speaker 1: maybe not even but I guess he would make it,

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Speaker 1: but he could get cut. There's just a lot of

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Speaker 1: chances here, a lot of big names that Kyle Annoy,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what about your other team, Scarneckia, he's

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Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. He'll be back on that coaching staff

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Speaker 1: in six weeks. Can't wait for you can't wait for

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Speaker 1: one of these Belichick disciples to sign Kyle van Noy

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Speaker 1: and then he has like two sacks and thirteen tackles

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Speaker 1: next year. Thank you. And I do like the Patriots

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Speaker 1: saying let's sweep out the entire team after we went

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Speaker 1: twelve and four. You know, it's untenable that we lost.

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Speaker 1: Just it's natural. They're they're kind of time to reboot

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Speaker 1: a little bit. All right, great job boys. You did

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Speaker 1: it Mark and I did it as well. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think we initially did it and then you know,

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Speaker 1: here comes the bells and whistles for these guys. But

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Speaker 1: that's that's fine. I really thought we were so high

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Speaker 1: on Shelby Harris. That was a unique take from both

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Speaker 1: of us. But you guys had the exact same out.

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Speaker 1: What what was it you liked about Shelby Harrison? You

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Speaker 1: were pouring orange juice when you mentioned that tremendous motor um.

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Speaker 1: All right, check it out NFL dot com, slash top

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Speaker 1: one oh one free agents and good work, guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday. We'll be back in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles as well with uh full week of three shows,

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Speaker 1: three shows every week through the draft. Um, so we

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Speaker 1: continue that new trend. And thank you to everybody for listening,

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Speaker 1: and we are now getting on an airplane smelling later.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna work that in. It's gonna be like the

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Speaker 1: news sign off. Do you think that has Legs Dan

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