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Speaker 1: Early one chilly morning in March of nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: of Circleville, Ohio. Most windows were still dark, the suburban

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Speaker 1: Gillespie was wide awake. She was used to getting up

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Speaker 1: before dawn. She'd been doing it for years, ever since

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Speaker 1: one single envelope and addressed to Mary. Curious, she picked

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Speaker 1: it up and briskly tore it open, finding a single

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Speaker 1: unfolded it and immediately felt unnerved. It was a note

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Speaker 1: written to her in large menacing block capitals, the letters

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Speaker 1: so tall and narrow they looked distorted. It read stay

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Speaker 1: away from Gordon Massey, don't lie when questioned about meeting him.

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Speaker 1: I know where you live. Mary stared down at the letter,

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Speaker 1: the blocky writing swimming before her eyes. Gordon had been

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Speaker 1: her colleague for years. He was the superintendent at the

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Speaker 1: school whose she drove, and just like her to the

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Speaker 1: outside world, at least, he was happily married. And yet

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Speaker 1: whoever had written this letter was clearly accusing Mary of adultery.

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Speaker 1: And it didn't stop there. The letter went on, I've

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Speaker 1: been observing your house and I know you have children.

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Speaker 1: This is no joke. Please take it serious. Everyone concerned

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Speaker 1: has been notified. It will be over soon. Mary felt

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Speaker 1: She blinked, half expecting the scene to fade away like

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Speaker 1: Mary read the letter back one more time, then she

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Speaker 1: on to her car. You're listening to Unexplained, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Richard mclin smith. Circleville is the definition of an all

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Speaker 1: American small town. It's in the heart of the Midwest,

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Speaker 1: a safe place to raise a family. Mary and Ron

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Speaker 1: Gillespie were high school sweethearts, and after getting married and

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Speaker 1: having two children, they settled in Circleville. For years, they

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Speaker 1: with many of the local kids. They had no enemies,

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Speaker 1: or so they thought, But the arrival of that shocking

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Speaker 1: grudge against Mary, and that letter was just the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Over the next few months, the letters kept coming, the

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Speaker 1: subject never changed. The writer seemingly fixated on a supposed

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Speaker 1: and with each letter the tone grew ever more menacing. Lady,

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Speaker 1: They wrote, this is your last chance to report him.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a pig and will prove it and

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Speaker 1: to Mary's husband Ron as well, mister Gillespie, your wife

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Speaker 1: is seeing Gordon Massey read one especially vicious letter. You

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Speaker 1: deserve to live. Then one morning, as she drove her

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Speaker 1: When she told Ron about it, he got straight into

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Speaker 1: Ron hadn't told anybody about the letters. They were too

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Speaker 1: Sue suggested they'd take a road trip to Florida. She didn't.

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Speaker 1: Despite the hurtful accusation, Ron stood by his wife and

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Speaker 1: Doctor Ray Carroll was no stranger to grisly sights. He'd

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Speaker 1: it had all been too much for him. To Ron's

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Speaker 1: In the aftermath of Ron's death, Mary leaned on her

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Speaker 1: He certainly didn't buy the idea that he'd been murdered.

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Speaker 1: As far as they were concerned, Mary was an adulterer

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Speaker 1: Local school superintendent Gordon Massey. Although Gordon hadn't received any

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Speaker 1: Up to that point, both Mary and Gordon always denied

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Speaker 1: Gordon did then start to see each other. Unsurprisingly, this

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Speaker 1: to Mary's children. It's your daughter's turn to pay for

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Speaker 1: The police investigation into the letters had petered out by

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Speaker 1: it all, she'd somehow managed to remain sane now. Whenever

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