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Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from

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Speaker 1: people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even

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Speaker 1: an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're

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Speaker 1: about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show

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Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was

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Speaker 1: twenty four out of twenty six years was solely dedicated

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Speaker 1: working on the cover. I walk in, I'm in the bar.

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Speaker 1: How there's a bar made? Dare good looking young lady

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Speaker 1: see serving me? Joey, Hey, what would you like? I

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Speaker 1: usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini,

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Speaker 1: three olives, class of water on the side. I finished

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Speaker 1: the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go

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Speaker 1: in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am,

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Speaker 1: I give her one hundred hours. If you're with the mob,

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Speaker 1: I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That

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Speaker 1: means we protect you. Nobody could shake you down. We

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Speaker 1: could shake you down. Oh, you're on record with us.

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Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the

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Speaker 1: highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode three

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Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger show. This is a

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show. I love a good crime story, and

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Speaker 1: you do too. It's part of our I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is it a fallen nature thing. Is it a admiration

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Speaker 1: for their courage thing? Probably a little bit of that.

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Speaker 1: The sense of doom that comes of with reading about criminals,

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Speaker 1: even how you know their story ends, has always that

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Speaker 1: part is always fascinated me. And this is this is

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Speaker 1: and one bad decisions in my life, but I can't

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Speaker 1: with a conscious decision to be a criminal. And when

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Speaker 1: I say conscious decision, I mean to be a criminal

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Speaker 1: repeatedly with big crimes. I don't mean a murder, a

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Speaker 1: crime of passion, all right, got mad killed, somebody going

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Speaker 1: going to be a career criminal. Don't you find that fascinating? Wait? What?

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Speaker 1: Why even with the money and stuff that comes with it?

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Speaker 1: why do it? Why do it? And why do it?

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Speaker 1: If you're our guy today who seem to have certainly

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Speaker 1: talking about a man named John Dillinger. Obviously you've heard

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Speaker 1: the day is over today. John Dillon, he was not

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Speaker 1: Raycon e earbuds make my day better. I now that

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Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous to say about wireless earbuds, even high quality

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Speaker 1: Raycon dot com slash jesse. That's by Raycon dot com

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Speaker 1: slash Jesse. That gets you fifteen percent off. John Dillinger's

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Speaker 1: Jesse James was very kind to most innocent people, held

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Speaker 1: state prison. Only the problem is John is now in jail,

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Speaker 1: not for long though. Is he smarter than everyone he knows?

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00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: Does he think so? Yeah? The Jesse Kelly Show. How

426
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: exposed is your information online? How much of your information

427
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: is out there? Now? Don't get me wrong. I don't

428
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: think you're naive. I don't think you have a public

429
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: profile with your home address, your online dating profile information,

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00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: your gun records, all your previous addresses, things like that.

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00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd knowingly put all that information out

432
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: there for everyone. But something like that may be happening

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00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: with your information online. What I mean is there maybe

434
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: public records posted about you. You wouldn't paint your private

435
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: information on your garage door, but you could be leaving

436
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: a footprint everywhere you go online. A lot of things

437
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: you do maybe records you didn't even set up yourself.

438
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Those records might just be hanging out there. They could

439
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: be out there and others could be able to see them.

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00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: It's more important than ever to find out what could

441
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: be posted online about you. Go look up your name

442
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: or anyone else's right now, go to get the Truth

443
00:33:42,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: now dot com. That's get the Truth now dot com.

444
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: John puts together the plan to bust a bunch of

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00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: hardened career criminals out of prison. Then he gets arrested himself,

446
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: but the plan is in place. They bust out of prison. Wow,

447
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: we can't go on our robbing spree without John. They

448
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: now decide they're going to go bust Dillinger out of jail,

449
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: and they do. They show up, stick up, hold up,

450
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, hold up the sheriff

451
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: whose jail he's in, end up shooting and killing the guy,

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00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: and bust Dillinger out of jail. Remember, as we romanticize

453
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: this stuff and as we laugh about it all, I'm

454
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: not trying to make it heavier than it has to be.

455
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: It's not. But these were real people. It sounds like

456
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: a movie. All this stuff sounds like a movie that

457
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: was a real sheriff family and everything else and down.

458
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: As you can imagine, law enforcement not too happy about it,

459
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: and they're about to get angrier because this hardened group

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00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: of criminals they go on a bank robbing spree like

461
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: we've never seen before. And the reason they're so good

462
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: is they're incredibly disciplined, unlike Dellinger's later gang, which we'll

463
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: get to in a minute. But these were the guys

464
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: who did this for a living. They are scouting banks out.

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00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: They're the guys like you see in the movies, the

466
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: criminals who are timing to drive from the bank to

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00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: the cop shop. They know how long they have. They

468
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: have escape routes out of town planned. They have vehicles

469
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: really really really fast ones, and they soup them up.

470
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: Remember that mechanics training to make them even faster. In fact,

471
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: believe it or not, they have vehicles faster than the

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00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: cops vehicles at this time. You want to talk about brazen.

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00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: They needed weapons. They decided they wanted a lot of weapons.

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00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: Tommy guns. Those are forty five caliber submachine guns, big

475
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: heavy browning fully automatics, handguns, everything. Where do they get

476
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: those weapons. They raid police armories at gunpoint. I'm not exaggerating.

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00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: They stick up police departments and steal their weapons. They

478
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: then start knocking off banks for gigantic paydays. Remember we're

479
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: talking nineteen twenties nineteen thirties currency here. They're knocking off

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00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: banks for thirty grand, forty grand fifty grand Do you

481
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: have any idea how much money that is? And remember,

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Speaker 1: these are people who consciously made the decision to do

483
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: the things they're doing. These are not accidental gangsters. They

484
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: decide they want to look good doing it. They decide

485
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: to start buying the fanciest suits, those hats you know

486
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: from all the old school gangster movies, the cool looking

487
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: hat cocked off to the side. That's not just from

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00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: the movies. They did it. Remember, they're knocking off banks.

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Speaker 1: How hard do you think you'd have to look if

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Speaker 1: you're a gangster and you want to look good doing it,

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00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: and you want to be famous for being a gangster

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: or a bank robber, whatever you want to call it,

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00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: a thug, however you want to view them, how hard

494
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: do you think you'd have to look to find a

495
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: sympathetic journalist out there who wanted to sell a couple

496
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: extra papers. They're doing interviews, secret interviews with journalists. They're

497
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: becoming stars. And no, they weren't a bunch of psychopathic

498
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: killers murdering everybody by they found. But these were killers.

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00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: But just like Dillinger always wanted this group especially polite

500
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: and professional when they robbed banks, nice to women and children.

501
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: Wait over here, please, did not walk in shooting most

502
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: of the time, did not fire a shot. They were famous.

503
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: And now we're in the j Edgar Hoover era where

504
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: this guy's going crazy. One because it looks terrible for

505
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: the new found Federal Bureau of Investigation that there's some

506
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: group of bank robbers and killers terrorizing the nation and

507
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: they were a bunch of them. Two. Hoover hates the

508
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: positive publicity. As you can imagine, how angry do you

509
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: get at media today. You've heard me blow a gasket

510
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: behind this microphone before at media today. Hoover can't stand this.

511
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: Hoover has these high standards for the FBI. As soon

512
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: as he got hired, he fired all the women. Could

513
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: you imagine doing that today, fired all the women, put

514
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: in personal grooming standards, put in standards for physical fitness.

515
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: Like he wanted the FBI to be these elite dudes.

516
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: He wanted the FBI to be the one everybody worshiped

517
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: and celebrated, and instead everyone loves John Dillinger and Dillager's

518
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: gang is going crazy. Finally there's a problem. Cops start dying.

519
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: Cops are trying to chase these people down doing the

520
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: best they can. Remember they were robbing armories. Most of

521
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: these guys grew up hunting and fishing or doing crimes.

522
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: They're doing okay with weapons, to the heat is simply

523
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: too much and they decide, okay, we have got a

524
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: lay low for a little while, or we're all going

525
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: to go to jail. Let's try to get into Mexico.

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00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: They try to escape into Mexico and all the border

527
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: crossings are being watched because they're worried about that, so

528
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: they keep pushing west, trying to get across, end up

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00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: in Tucson, and oh man, that they hit some bad

530
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: luck in Tucson. I don't think I need to elaborate

531
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: for any of you exactly what's happening right now with

532
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: the world's economy. You know, we still have over fifty

533
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: million people unemployed in this country. The FED they're printing

534
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: money like it's going out of style, devaluing the currency.

535
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: We are in the very definition of a bubble, a

536
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: big one, and I don't think I should elaborate for

537
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: you how ugly it's going to get when that bubble bursts.

538
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: And you notice I said when that bubble bursts, get

539
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: a gold Ira get a hold of gold Alliance. It's

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: the highest rated five star A plus better Business Bureau

541
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: gold company out there. You need Gold Alliance and if

542
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: you go to gold Alliance dot com slash Jesse now

543
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: you can get up to five grand in free gold

544
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: and silver coins for a purchase. That's gold Alliance dot

545
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Com slash Jesse. Dillinger and Dillinger's gang. They have boatloads

546
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: of cash because they've been robbing banks everywhere. They have

547
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: weapons galore, but they are on the run. And remember

548
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: this is not an era of digit old cash. And

549
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: if you're John Dillinger and the crew, you can't exactly

550
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: open up a savings account with USAA, so you're carrying

551
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: it with you or burying it somewhere. You have to

552
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: carry it with you. They need to lay low somewhere now. Personally,

553
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: this is where I think criminal mastermind John Dillinger and

554
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: his bank robbing friends went little sideways. But they decide

555
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: to post uff at the Hotel Congress in Tucson, a

556
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: significant hotel at the time. For a future reference, you

557
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: were aspiring bank robbers, maybe don't put up at the

558
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: ritziest hotel in town when you're trying to lay low

559
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: that's what the dirty hotels are for. But they're there,

560
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: They're at the Hotel Congress. They haven't been busted yet.

561
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: And in the all time run of bad luck, something

562
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: happens hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. This is the

563
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. Dylinger and the gang, staying at the

564
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: Hotel Congress in Tucson, Arizona, find themselves waking up in

565
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and they even else smells smoke.

566
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: The freaking hotel catches on fire. And I do not

567
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: mean a tiny little fire by the ashtray in the lobby.

568
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: I mean a blaze, the kind of blaze that involves

569
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Dillinger and his people being taken down out of the

570
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: hotel windows by firemen and ladders. What do you think

571
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: is still in the room as the Hotel Congress is burning,

572
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: suitcases full of money and weapons? And who knows. I'd

573
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: try to find the details, I couldn't find them. Who

574
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: knows if any of them were open for all I know,

575
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: when it's time to go. Maybe I'm assuming the gang

576
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: had the presence of mind, but for all I know,

577
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: they were just laying their weapons cash. I mean, if

578
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna live that life, you might as well sleep

579
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: on all the Chris. Now, one of the gang members

580
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: realizes they're in a bit of trouble and pays off

581
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: a few of the firemen to go get their suitcases

582
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: full of money. Doesn't necessarily work well. The firemen consider

583
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: this to be a bit suspicious, and these guys really

584
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: love their luggage. They report them. They're arrested again. I

585
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: know you're going to find this shocking, but John Dillinger

586
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: escapes from prison On my life, I just don't. I

587
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: have no idea how they continue to do this all

588
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: the time. John Dillinger escapes from prison. This time he

589
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: fashions a wooden gun and paints it with black shoe

590
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: polish to look like a real gun, and uses it

591
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: to stick up one of the prison guards and steal

592
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: his real and escape from prison and steals the sheriff's

593
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: car when he escapes from prison. On my life, I've

594
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: never seen anything like this. Now, remember when I told

595
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: you the FBI was all over him, Now, really really

596
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: angry cops are dead obviously, local police department's, local sheriff's

597
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: departments are all over him too. He has heat everywhere

598
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: and apparently apparently it took law enforcements some time in

599
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: this country to get their footing underneath him. Because you

600
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: know where John Dillinger goes after he escapes from prison

601
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: yet again and steals a sheriff's car his dad's house.

602
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: He goes to visit his dad. There's actually a picture

603
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: of it where Dillinger's there with the wooden gun in

604
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: his hand, just goes to visit dad. Nobody's watching dad's house.

605
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: Nobody thought he hey, maybe he'll go visit family. I

606
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: just that part of the story I had to read.

607
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: I think I read two different places just to make

608
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: sure on top of the first one, just to make

609
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: sure that was right. And it's true he would and

610
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: visited his dad, gets a picture with his dad, but

611
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: he does have a problem. Remember, John Dillinger has chosen

612
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: a life of crime. This is a man on the run,

613
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: This is a man in trouble. And now this is

614
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: a man indeed of some cash. Only that long established

615
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: group of career criminals, they're all either in prison or

616
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: on their way to the electric chair at this point

617
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: in time. They've all been broken up and busted. And

618
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: Dillinger falls in with a man who I'm not going

619
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: to dwell on because he is fascinating enough. I'm actually

620
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: going to do a whole show on him, maybe later

621
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: this week. Stay tuned for that, maybe next week. His

622
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: name is baby Face, baby Face Nelson. I believe his

623
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Speaker 1: first names. Our real name is Lester Gillis. If I remember,

624
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't have to look into that. I didn't read

625
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: into it. He is going to be a fascinating one.

626
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: You know, all the nice things we were saying about Dillinger,

627
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: we won't be saying any of those about baby Face

628
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: in Dillinger's about to find out why. There are people

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Speaker 1: I know this from watching eight trillion mob documentaries and

630
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: crime documentaries and crime books and crime articles and things

631
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: about bank robbers and gangsters and all these things. There

632
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: are various degrees in any world, in any business. What

633
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: business are you in? Are there people who take things

634
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: to the extreme in your business? Probably on both sides.

635
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: There are probably people who do it extremely accadasically, and

636
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: there are probably people who are extremely obsessed with it.

637
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: There are degrees of sanity and violence in the criminal

638
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: world too, And every once in a while you come

639
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: across one of these guys. You see him a lot

640
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: in the mob and organized crime stuff. And every once

641
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: in a while you come across these guys where even

642
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: the other criminals are pretty scared of them and don't

643
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: necessarily want to work with them. And that's baby Face Nelson.

644
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: This guy was a complete psychopath. In fact, he would

645
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: murder you if you even called him baby Face. Not

646
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: a big fan of that name. But when I say

647
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: would murder you, that's not like a big deal to

648
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: baby Face, would I say, not a big deal. It's

649
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: one of those things he would do just randomly. It

650
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: was almost undoubtedly if he wasn't a bank robber, would

651
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: have been a serial killer. Or I don't think it's

652
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: just one of those guys, a complete psychopath. And Dillinger

653
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: joins up with baby Face, and this gang is night

654
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: and day different than the first one. They're doing things faster,

655
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: they're doing things much less professionally, and because baby Faces along,

656
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: people are getting shot, lots of them, lots of the time.

657
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: Baby Face will do things like stand guard outside of

658
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: the prison and then randomly get angry at somebody and

659
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: starts spraying civilians with a Tommy gun on the sidewalk.

660
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: There's no playing at cool, there's no talking your way

661
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: out of things. He's shooting cops, he's shooting civilians. On

662
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: the times he'd walk into the bank, he'd starts shooting

663
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: at the roof. He could mow down spains at any time.

664
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: At one point in time, another member of the gang

665
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: had to tackle him to keep him from just massacring people.

666
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: The man is a complete psychopath. And now now we're

667
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: nearing towards the end, aren't we Isn't this always the story?

668
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Eventually the gang decides they need to really lay low

669
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: now because Dillinger just went to a tavern with his girlfriend.

670
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: She went in first, she gets busted because the cops

671
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: were in. They're waiting for him. Didlinger got sold out

672
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: by a buddy. Now he has his psycho baby face

673
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: with him, his girlfriend's been arrested. They don't know what

674
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: to do, so he goes and visits his dad again

675
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm not joking, and the cops still aren't there. And

676
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: then they know they need to lay low. They pick

677
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: a retreat destination. I was gonna say Minnesota, but it

678
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: was Wisconsin. I almost said Minnesota. They pick a little hotel.

679
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: She's a little hotel where they hang out and play cards.

680
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: The owner of the hotel catches them all wearing weapons,

681
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: freaks out, calls the FBI or calls law enforcement the FBI.

682
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: Now we have a gang of police killers on our hands.

683
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: They swarm down there. And when I say police killers,

684
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's a big deal in law enforcement world.

685
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: You need to keep that in mind. When one of

686
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: their own goes down, they will come for you enforce,

687
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: as they should. But the FBI is in its early stages.

688
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember how they weren't even watching Dad's house.

689
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: They didn't know anything about raids either. Now they have

690
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: newfound police powers. The FBI didn't really have much for

691
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: physical police powers, but FDR had signed a bill into

692
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: law by this point in time, and the FBI knows

693
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: how dangerous this can be. And let me clarify for

694
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: a brief moment. We'll probably do a show on Body

695
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: and Glide once too, But just do a quick image

696
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: search of Bonnie and Clyde car That's how seriously law

697
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: enforcement was taken taking these people. Now they're not taking

698
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: chances with cop killers, they're gunning them down. Should have

699
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: been a little more careful. Hang on the Jesse Kelly show,

700
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701
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: the same situation you're in. Life is busy. I have

702
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: the same stuff you do, family, life, kids, Life is busy,

703
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Speaker 1: got a million different things going on. I don't have

704
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Speaker 1: time to wrestle with my home security company. I don't

705
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Speaker 1: have time to read through fine print. I don't have

706
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Speaker 1: time for a four to eight hour window when the

707
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: technicians going to show up and install everything. I don't

708
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Speaker 1: have time for that at But I still need home security.

709
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710
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716
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: at this Wisconsin hotel. It's nighttime. They kind of surrounded

717
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I guess, kind of don't. I mean, clearly didn't do

718
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: the best job the world. Remember this is a public hotel.

719
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: There are other people here. Three dudes hop in a vehicle,

720
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: completely innocent civilian dudes. I should mention. Three completely innocent

721
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: dudes hop in a vehicle, crank up the tunes. They

722
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: had radios in the cars back then, let's jam out

723
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: who's it home from dinner? They're leaving the hotel where

724
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: the cops in the FBI are trying to flag them

725
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: down and tell them to stop, but the radio's too high.

726
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: The dudes don't hear. The cops open fire on the vehicle,

727
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: killing one of the three guys in wounding the other two.

728
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Not the golden days of the FBI, to put it mildly, obviously,

729
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Dillinger and the crew, here's this shootout. They manage to

730
00:55:52,480 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: escape all of this. Now the circle was closing around Inger,

731
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: and it's closing around Dillinger very quickly. Dillinger decides he's

732
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: going to get plastic surgery to alter his appearance. Where

733
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: would a criminal like this get plastic surgery? Come on, people,

734
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: doctors have bill payments too. I believe you found a

735
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: mob doctor who had lost his license who agreed to

736
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: come get all this stuff done for him. Either way,

737
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: he finds somebody does the plastic surgery, almost dies during

738
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: the plastic surgery, because again, when you're getting illegal surgeries done,

739
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: sometimes all the safety precautions aren't in place. They're screwing

740
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: up his anesthesia. He's waking up while they're operating on

741
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: his face. Would probably be a bit of an adjustment period,

742
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: waking up to find somebody giving you a new chin.

743
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: Dillinger wakes up, they get done. The doctor then charge

744
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: him and one of his other gang buddies for changing

745
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: their fingerprints. They would burn off their fingerprints with acid,

746
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: which is really creepy. That had to hurt really bad,

747
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: but that's still really cool. This is a man who

748
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: seems like he wants to disappear when I say, seems

749
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: like it. You go to all this trouble with plastic surgery,

750
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: but you're still going out all the time. You've heard

751
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: of the FBI's public enemies list, and there's always like

752
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: a top ten public enemy top ten, and who's public

753
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: enemy number one? They created the public enemies list during

754
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: this time, and guess who. Here's a little trivia question

755
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: for you. Guess who the first ever public Enemy number

756
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: one on the FBI's list was John Dillinger. Dillinger, however,

757
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: elastic surgery new fingerprints. Besides, he wants to go to

758
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: the theater and full disclosure. I don't know what kind

759
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: of theater this is, if this is a silent film,

760
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: if this is a play they went to. But he

761
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: shows up in town with his girlfriend and a madam

762
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: if you will, madam a lady running a house of

763
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: ill repute, Chris, I know you're going to find this shocking.

764
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: But the madam was on the wrong side of the

765
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: law too, and about to be deported back to Europe

766
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: because we used to deport people who came here, who

767
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: immigrated here in committed crimes back in America. That was

768
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: saying she does not want to be deported. She goes

769
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: to the cops says, I'll help you find Public Enemy

770
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: number one. I'll help you catch him. They say, okay,

771
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: we'll cut you a deal. She tells them where he's

772
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: going to be. He's going to the movies with his

773
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: girlfriend and I on this particular night, goes to the theater.

774
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: They are given orders by j Edgar Hoover himself to

775
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: not go into the theater after him, because these Dillinger

776
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: and his guys were always shooting it out with the

777
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: cops at all times. Didn't want to risk more innocent

778
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: people killed. Because again the FBI's coming up some real

779
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: bad press. When you murk some innocent dude at a

780
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: Wisconsin hotel, they wait for him to come outside. An

781
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: FBI agent is stationed at the door, and he's told

782
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: to give the signal of lighting a cigar when Dillinger

783
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: comes out. He lights the cigar. When he sees Dillinger,

784
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Dillinger hyper aware again. A highly intelligent individual picks up

785
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: on the dude lighting a cigar, grabs his weapon, and

786
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: takes off running. Cops run him down in an alleyway

787
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: and shoot him, I believe five times, but only one

788
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: of them was fatal. Shot him in the spinal cord. Dead,

789
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: came out his eyeball or underneath his eyes, somewhere in

790
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: his face. What do you mean how, Chris, I said,

791
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: shot him in the spinal cord. Chris, The spinal cord

792
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: is long, and Chris wanted to know how it came

793
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: out his eye. He's such a child. Bullets bounce around,

794
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: especially when they get inside a body, especially if you're

795
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: not using a very high caliber, and they can come

796
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: out anywhere. You shoot somebody with like a little twenty two.

797
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: You can shoot someone in the hip and it'll come

798
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: out his shoulder, it'll just bounce all over bones and

799
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: ribs and everything else. It's not good, probably not feeling

800
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: good as it makes its way through there either possibly

801
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: some internal damage right when I get that looked at,

802
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: and thus ends the criminal career of John Dillinger. I

803
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: don't do a ton of foreign policy on the show.

804
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: We do some. I care about it some, but it's always,

805
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, one of those top ten on my list

806
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: of things I care about type thing. And to be frank,

807
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: I've seen all these public policy polling things. It's always

808
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: about that for you too. You care about foreign policy

809
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: is kind of it's a nice distraction. We like to

810
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: chair cheer when some terrorists gets nuked. Even last week

811
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: we had a huge Israel UAE p S deal. It

812
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: wasn't that big of a story with the public. Lasted

813
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: a few hours. Everyone's all, oh, you did that nice,

814
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: where's the UAE. It's just something people can and I'm

815
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: not blaming you. I'm not judging you. I'm the exact

816
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: same way. It's not an ugly American thing. You care

817
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: about things in general, the closer they are to home,

818
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: you are probably never going to step foot in the UAE.

819
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Maybe not Israel. Either although I want to go there

820
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: one day, walking the footsteps of Jesus for Chris's people

821
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: killed him. I want to check it out. I'd probably

822
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: never go into the UAE. I mean, I don't know,

823
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: is it nice there, Chris? I can't imagine it's nice

824
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: either way. I don't do a ton of foreign policy,

825
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: but I saw this and the only reason it perked

826
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: my ears up is because the guy who sent me

827
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: the headline said to me, man, can you believe this?

828
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: And the headline is this from MSN dot com. Headline

829
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: says Iran paid bounty for targeting US troops. Intelligence reports

830
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: suggests essentially it's Iran's government offering cash to Taliban dudes

831
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: for going after US troops in Iran or in Afghanistan.

832
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and I've ought to myself, WHOA, Yeah, some

833
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: people choose to be bad. It's a choice. Yes, there

834
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: are people with bad upbringings and things like that and

835
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: fall into it. I'm not denying that there are people

836
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: who choose to be bad. John Dillinger he decided early on,

837
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a criminal. Iran has made their decision.

838
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: Iran once to be the bad guy they do. Let's

839
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: just accept that. How exposed is your information online? How

840
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: much of your information is out there? Don't get me wrong,

841
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you're naive. I don't think you have

842
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: a public profile with your home address, your online dating information,

843
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: your gun records, previous addresses. I don't think you'd knowingly

844
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: put that information out there, but it might be out

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Speaker 1: there online. What I mean is there may be public

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Speaker 1: records posted about you. You wouldn't paint your private info

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Speaker 1: in your garage door, but you could be leaving a

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Speaker 1: footprint everywhere you go online. A lot of things you

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Speaker 1: do online, or maybe records you didn't even set up.

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Speaker 1: Those records might just be hanging out there and others

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Speaker 1: might be able to see them. It's more important than

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Speaker 1: ever to find out what could be posted online about you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and look up your name or anyone else's

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Speaker 1: right now, go to get the Truth Now dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's Get the Truth Now dot com. Enter your own name.

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Speaker 1: You'll see instant results. Joining me now, Michael Malice, as

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Speaker 1: he does every single Monday. First of all, Michael, First

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Speaker 1: of all, Michael, what's on tap for your show this week?

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Speaker 1: I've got Stupor Jeron, Who's Glennbex co host, So I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited to talk to him. We're escaping later today too.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the smartest, driest humor dudes. I know.

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Speaker 1: All right, you know what we're gonna starts somewhere else

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Speaker 1: right now. Foreign policy stuff. Yeah, I feel like the

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Speaker 1: national press cares infinitely more about foreign policy things than

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Speaker 1: the everyday American. I will tell you it's on my

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Speaker 1: top ten of things I care about. It's not top five,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely not top three. Where does foreign policy stuff

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Speaker 1: land for you? Like last week Israel, you a signed

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Speaker 1: a big piece deal. I think I spent five minutes

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Speaker 1: on it, and I don't think anybody cared. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: very big on foreign policy because it also puts things

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Speaker 1: into perspective. It's very hard to make the case that

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Speaker 1: President Trump is some sort of authoritarian dictator when you

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Speaker 1: look at some of the people who are running some

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Speaker 1: of the countries around the world. Names that you know,

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Speaker 1: a Turkomenistan that's not a household name, and this all

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Speaker 1: sorts of horror shows everywhere you want to look. You

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Speaker 1: can't make the case that this is some kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, fascist figure. When we have countries Hungary, for example,

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Speaker 1: they're closing down on freedom the press in a sincere way,

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Speaker 1: like you know, criticized New York Times, which is being

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Speaker 1: called you know, toxic freedom for us here. So I think,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of progressivism, which guides much

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Speaker 1: of corporate media, is based on a domesticated imperialism. Meaning

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Speaker 1: you have this culture that wants to take over the

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Speaker 1: secondary American culture and reshape it in its image. And

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Speaker 1: when your focus is on that, you don't really care

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Speaker 1: about what's going on over sives. Does it show that

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Speaker 1: we're selfish or is that just human natured or really

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Speaker 1: only care about your city, your neighborhood, your country and

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Speaker 1: whatever else happens is someone else's problem is that Does

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Speaker 1: that show we're selfish or does it just show we're human? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's healthy and I think it's important when

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Speaker 1: we are, you know, basically at war. I think it

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Speaker 1: took conservatives a long time to understand that they're being

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Speaker 1: the targets of jihad from places like it the aforementioned

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Speaker 1: New York Times, CNN and other establishments. And when that's

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Speaker 1: the case, when there is a huge movement that is

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Speaker 1: trying to denigrate your way of life. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: hard to have a priority on what's going on, and

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Speaker 1: let's say, menmar domestic politics. I find it to be

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Speaker 1: a really sad state of affairs where we are right

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Speaker 1: now as far as the two party system goes. I

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Speaker 1: know you're an anarchist. We're not getting into that today. Sure,

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Speaker 1: is there anything in place that you could see where

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Speaker 1: a third and or fourth party rises? And I mean

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Speaker 1: in the short term, I'm talking in the next ten

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Speaker 1: twenty years. I understand all the structural powers in place,

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Speaker 1: could a third or fourth party rise if people get sick?

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Speaker 1: I've see the public changing their opinions on things. Well, No,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump was a third party figure who basically

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Speaker 1: sees the Republican apparatus like he went against the Republican establishment.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders has never been elected as a Democrat. He

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Speaker 1: almost sees the nomination and I think we all remember

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Speaker 1: some of us before Super Tuesday, he that had in

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Speaker 1: every single pole and it was a given that he

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Speaker 1: was going to be the nominee. So there's no real

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Speaker 1: role for a third party when it's been demonstrated pretty strongly,

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Speaker 1: at least since Perot in ninety two, that both of

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Speaker 1: our major parties are weak, and they are primed to

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Speaker 1: be seized by someone who is talented enough in whatever

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Speaker 1: capacity to eliminate the previous establishment. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: see it this week. You see if John Kasik, who

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Speaker 1: was one of the impeachment managers in the House and

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Speaker 1: putting in the nineties, and some other prominent Republican former

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Speaker 1: congressmen are going to endorse Biden, it looks like the

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Speaker 1: Bushes might be endorsing Biden. So there's room for new

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Speaker 1: blood in both parties. How do you see that playing out?

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Speaker 1: If the Bushes actually endorsed Biden. How much power do

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Speaker 1: the Bushes still have. I don't mean in their own

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Speaker 1: little circles. I don't mean here in Texas. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about swinging national elections. Is this significant? Is it anything? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think it'll encourage a lot of a Publicans to

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Speaker 1: go out and vote Trump because it'll demonstrate to them

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Speaker 1: much more than his record, which has been very free spending.

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Speaker 1: That Look, this is a different type of Republican and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of unprecedented in our lifetime other than Ed

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Speaker 1: Koch and Senator Zell Miller in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 1: Wood endorsed Bush, and I was post nine eleven to

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Speaker 1: have prominent members of one party got prominent certainly formed

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Speaker 1: president to be endorsing members of the other party. And

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Speaker 1: Trump does best when he presents himself as the victim

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Speaker 1: of a huge organized movement, and he's not entirely inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: What's that rift there between Trump and the Bushes? Is

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Speaker 1: it personal? Is it political? Is there something that? What

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Speaker 1: is it? I don't you think it's I think the

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Speaker 1: basis sincerely is two things. Class and he's very wealthy,

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Speaker 1: but he's kind of crass in his persona. They're blue bloods.

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Speaker 1: He's certainly not. He's new money in a sense. But

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Speaker 1: it's also I think international. When the Soviet Union was

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Speaker 1: falling apart, the first President Bush was right in the

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Speaker 1: Gorbachev telling him, no one wants to see the collapse

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Speaker 1: of the Soviet Union, whereas President Trump is very much

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Speaker 1: let's shut down the bases, bring him home. Why are

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Speaker 1: we in Syria? Why are we in Germany? Why are

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Speaker 1: we paying money to the WHO? And these are two

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Speaker 1: completely incompatible worldviews. Would you say yeah, I would say

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Speaker 1: I just I couldn't. I would say that, But I

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Speaker 1: have foreign policy difference with my differences with my friends

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Speaker 1: all the time. I've got a bunch of friends who

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Speaker 1: are I would consider more nia konish, and I just

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Speaker 1: want to get away from basically everywhere. It wouldn't create

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Speaker 1: this kind of animosity. There's animosity of we have a

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Speaker 1: disagreement on foreign policy, and then there's animosity of I'm

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Speaker 1: going to endorse Joe Biden just despite you. Well, it

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Speaker 1: also got extremely personal, of course, you know twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: He was the way he talked to Jeb Bush, who's

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Speaker 1: not particularly a bad guy, was very disrespectful and contemptuous,

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Speaker 1: and it ended up working for President Trump on a

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: certain level. That's got a sting. You know, when you're

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Speaker 1: you're standing there and telling Jeb your brother didn't keep

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Speaker 1: us safe during nine to eleven. That is that's tough,

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Speaker 1: tough till to swallow. Jeb Bush, the Bush family, these

974
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Speaker 1: political dynasties, they are inevitable on some level. They just

975
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Speaker 1: take place in every nation in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: Do you consider them to be only a bad thing?

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Speaker 1: Is it good to have some people who are used

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Speaker 1: to government? Is it only bad? What do you think

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Speaker 1: about something like that? I can't think of any type

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Speaker 1: of dynasty where like it gets better and better. It

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Speaker 1: just seems to me like a good brand name kind

982
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Speaker 1: of thing, like the Look at the Cuomos in New York.

983
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Speaker 1: I mean, my god, the assault Andrew Cuomo has been

984
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Speaker 1: more damage to New York City than Mohammadata and it's

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Speaker 1: sustained and continuous and horrific. So it's very hard for

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Speaker 1: me just looking at the data, and I'm sure you'd

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Speaker 1: probably agree to think of like, Okay, who is someone

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Speaker 1: who Taft? Governor Haft of Ohio had the lowest approval

989
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Speaker 1: ratings of any governor I think in histories, down to

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Speaker 1: thirteen percent. So it's hard for me to think of

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Speaker 1: any situation when you have someone who's part of a

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Speaker 1: dynasty who's gotten better. I'll tell you Megan McCain. I

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Speaker 1: think Megan is a lot better than John McCain, so

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Speaker 1: that that would be one example, but she's not been elected. Now.

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on term limits? I will tell

996
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Speaker 1: you I'm against them. That's one of those things I

997
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Speaker 1: have a huge disagreement with the majority of people I

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Speaker 1: talked to about. People are all about term limits. I'm

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Speaker 1: dead set against them. Where do you stand term limits

1000
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: seemed like a hopeful way to drain the swamp. But

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Speaker 1: New York City has had term limits for at least

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Speaker 1: twenty years in terms of the entire city Council and

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Speaker 1: in terms of the mayor, and it hasn't really done

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Speaker 1: much of a difference at the presidential level. Sure, it's

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Speaker 1: good then you get kind of fresh blood every eight years,

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Speaker 1: but in terms of the promises of what it was

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Speaker 1: going to deliver, what we're seeing is yet maybe the

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Speaker 1: face has change, but the party app ratus does not.

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Speaker 1: And that is, at the end of the day, what

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Speaker 1: is governing things? For better or for worse? Michael Malice,

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Speaker 1: do you have time to stay over for maybe one

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Speaker 1: or two more questions? Because I actually want to ask

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Speaker 1: you a kind of big one. Do you think we

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Speaker 1: won the Cold War or not? But we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to his answer on that on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the break. We will be right back with more. Michael Malice.

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Speaker 1: a few more minutes today a host of your Welcome

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Speaker 1: Michael Malice. Michael Alice. Did we win the Cold War?

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Speaker 1: So I'm writing my next book about But you know

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Speaker 1: the thing I have to point out to people, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of your listeners will agree with this.

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Speaker 1: At least the Communists and the KGB had the courtesy

1041
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Speaker 1: of knocking in the middle of the night when they

1042
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Speaker 1: came for you. The fact that we have no knock raids,

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Speaker 1: the fact that we have you know whatever Edward Snowden revealed,

1044
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: the way our phone are recording, and you have these

1045
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Speaker 1: warrants which are just kind of horrific and complete shredding

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Speaker 1: the constitution. There's a lot of things that the Silviat

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Speaker 1: Union did that we would have thought unimaginable during the

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Speaker 1: Cold War that we're doing. Now, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about no knock raids, law enforcement will

1050
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Speaker 1: tell you endlessly as an argument for them, well if

1051
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Speaker 1: you knock, you're never going to get anything. Ever, what

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Speaker 1: say you, Yeah, yeah, If the concern is that someone's

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Speaker 1: going to be splushing drugs down the toilet, but the

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Speaker 1: cost is that you terrorize the citizenry, I'm perfectly fine

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Speaker 1: with some cocaine being flushed down the toilet. And if

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Speaker 1: it's tough for them and they lose their evidence, well

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: that's too bad. That's the way our justice system and

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01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: our constitution is skewed. And they're just asking for citizens

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: to be terrified and start shooting in response. Thinking it's

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Speaker 1: the home invasion, which it is, even though it's a

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: legal one, and that's going to be unsafe for everybody,

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: and that just escalates violence and death, and it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: unacceptable on a broader level. Socialism, collectivism, communism, marks, and

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Speaker 1: whatever word you want to put on it. Is there

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Speaker 1: something we could have done to stop it? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean you look at where you look at where it

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean really began really starting to take hold early

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Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds and where we are now as it has

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: wormed its way through all of Western society and does

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01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: not appear to be slowing down. Could it have been

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: stopped or is it inevitable? Oh no, it's it's being stopped.

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Speaker 1: It's not inevitable. And the way it's being stopped is

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Speaker 1: having people not have the government raise your children, pick

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Speaker 1: them up in the morning, train them to be submissive

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Speaker 1: and obedient and dependent on authority for their self esteem

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Speaker 1: and approval, and then return them to mom and dad,

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: and then they have homework when they're done. So now

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Speaker 1: that that has kind of fallen away to some extent

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Speaker 1: with the pandemic, I'm very hopeful about the future generation

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Speaker 1: because all you need are a few kids who realize,

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is all a big lie, and

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01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: they're going to have a lot of ability to mess

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Speaker 1: things up for the masses, who are going to be

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Speaker 1: one mind distributed to several bodies. You view this as

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Speaker 1: a massive positive thing that's come out of what other

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: positive things have come out of this things? I agree,

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: having fewer kids in government schools is maybe the best

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Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened in this country, but it came

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Speaker 1: with a lot of pain. Is there something else we

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: should be looking at sunny wise? Oh? Absolutely. The fact

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Speaker 1: that we were told that we have to at all

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: costs stay in our homes, and then the next week

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01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: we're told we have to at all costs take to

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01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: the streets to protest police brutality has demonstrated to many

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01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: people more than you know, even things like Amy Rohrbach

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01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: and the Trump campaign, the duplicity and pravity of the

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: corporate press, and once you have people realizing, wait a minute,

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: these people are shameless and brazen in their orders, that

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Speaker 1: is a very healthy way towards healing this country. What's

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Speaker 1: your perfect set of laws look like? Your perfect constitution

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01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: look like? Because I know you don't like the one

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Speaker 1: we have. I know you're an anarchist is it nothing

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: because I say that won't work. It is absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 1: Anarchists do not believe in law whatsoever. We believe in rules.

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Speaker 1: So if I am a member of an organization, if

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01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: I go to Macy's, you know I follow their rules.

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01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 1: If I go to eBay, I follow their rules. But

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: to have a one size fits all for law makes

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01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: as much as having one size fits all for medicine.

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Speaker 1: What's the worst job you ever had in your life? Oh?

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: You know, probably I have. I've been pretty lucky. I've not.

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01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: My first job was writing for an aquarium magazine when

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,799
Speaker 1: I was in high school, So I've been pretty blessed.

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01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,440
Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, given today's economic conditions,

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm not in a position to be complaining about having

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01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: to be able to get a paycheck. So I can't

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01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: think of anything that was particularly terrible. How do we

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: avoid now? You you think you're thrilled about the current

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: situation of getting kids out of school, and I am.

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Speaker 1: How do we avoid more socialism collectivism? With this many

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Speaker 1: of the poorest people in the country unemployed. At the top,

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01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: everybody's doing just fine. The poorest people have been wiped

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01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: out that inevitably historically leads to more socialism. No matter

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Speaker 1: what I think, one mechanism is the only thing will

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Speaker 1: be that rising tide. And are we going to have

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Speaker 1: an economy that is going to be an assault on

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01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: business in this kind of Deblasio New York City mayor

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Speaker 1: kind of way, or are we going to have an

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Speaker 1: administration that is for better or worse? Hands off? Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden was really kind of a moderate in the sense

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01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: economically certainly, he's not one of these kind of radicals,

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Speaker 1: And in fact, the corporate Democrats put him in place

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Speaker 1: to defeat the standards campaign. So I'm very hopeful that

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01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: even if he gets in, things are going to pick

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Speaker 1: up in this country economically. Hopeful, but not delusional. Michael

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Speaker 1: ballas host of You're welcome. Thank you, buddy, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Ohays a plus A. Jesse, take care. What's the worst

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Speaker 1: job you ever had? Producer Chris Oh. I'm not going

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01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: to dime them out, but Chris worked at a major

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: phone slash satellite slash cable provider, country or company. I'm

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01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: not going to get any more specific than that. If

1142
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: you're like Jesse, that's a few different things. You're right,

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: it is a few different things is that I don't

1144
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: want to narrow it down for you, so you fill

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01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: up their inbox with hatred. I understand how you are.

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01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: I know how you are. You can, however, fill up

1147
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 1: our inbox with hatred. Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com.

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01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. In all seriousness,

1149
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: I do read every single email you send in. I

1150
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: probably will not reply, get way too many. But Chris,

1151
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: they come to Chris. So they go to Chris first.

1152
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: If you want to yell at Chris real quick, that's fine.

1153
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: Chris gets them, prints them all off for me, hands

1154
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: them to me. Feel free to fire away. You know

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01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: what's really weird to me, Chris, Well, hang on a type.

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01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: I need a good night's sleep every night. Maybe maybe

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01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: you're one of these people who don't. Maybe maybe you're

1158
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: just I'm I can sleep off a half hour a week.

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01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm not that I need seven eight hours of sleep

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01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: every night, and for a long long time I wasn't

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: getting it, and I wasn't getting it for the same

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01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: reason you don't. I lay down at night and I

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01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: can't turn my brain off. I'll lay down and I'm

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01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: thinking about the day. I just had. I'm thinking about

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: the day I'm going to have tomorrow. My mind is

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: just going a mile a minute. I can't stop it

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01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: until EBB Sleep. EBB Sleep actually targets the root cause

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01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: of why I can't sleep, those racing thoughts going through

1169
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: my brain. It applies precise, continuous cooling to my forehead

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: and calms it down. Go to try ebb dot com

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: slash Jesse. That's try ebb dot com slash Jesse. Don't

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01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: forget to use the promo code Jesse. While you're there,

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: get twenty five bucks off eight seven seven three seven

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01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: seven four three seven three eight seven seven three seven

1175
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: seven four three seven three. What is the worst job

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: you ever had? Or you can email me Jesse at

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show dot com Jesse at Jesse Kelly show

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01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: dot com. And I'm asking for this reason. I had

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01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: so many crappy jobs, And sometimes I talk to people

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: like Michael Malice and they never really had one. And

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: you know what I figured out, Chris, it's me. It's

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: my fault. I had some kind of an attitude problem

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: or something. What don't nod your head like you knew

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01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: I had an attitude problem. You don't know that Chris.

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01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: For all you know, I was great. Now, don't get

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01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 1: me wrong. I got good employee reviews. I I'm you know,

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01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: I've never been fired except for my dad. Told you

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01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: about that before. I have told you about that, right, Chris.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, all right, I'll tell you that story here

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Speaker 1: in just a second, and we'll get the Medal of

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01:25:22,000 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: honor Monday. Jesse Kelly returns next. This is a Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly show. I've had some really, really crappy jobs. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to, you know what. Let's do Medal of

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01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: Honor first, because we need to brighten this show up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. United States Army Medal of Honor today, Chris,

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01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Korean War. We're gonna do, as you know, we do

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Speaker 1: Medal of Honor Mondays. Every Monday on the show. We

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Speaker 1: pick a Medal of Honor winner and we read his

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Speaker 1: citation on the air. It's not more complicated than that.

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01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: Not about you, not about me. It just doesn't hurt

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01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: every now and then, especially on a Monday. Let's remember

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01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: there are wonderful people in this country. There were and

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01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: there are also to be honest. As bad of a

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01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: human being as I am, and I am, it is

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Speaker 1: important to me that these guys be remembered because what

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: else can we actually do for them? Right, And we

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01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. You and I were

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Speaker 1: both who honor their sacrifice. We did to honor there's

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01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: but you can't actually do anything, especially for the guys

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01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: who are dead. They're gone. But we can remember, we

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01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: can remember, we can read it on the air, and

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Speaker 1: that's why I will always do one. So today we're

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Speaker 1: doing mister Dan Schoonover. Dan Schoonover was actually born Boise, Idaho,

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Speaker 1: And here is this citation. Corporal Schoonover distinguished himself by

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Speaker 1: con spicuous gallantry and intrepidity. I'm sorry, by a conspicuous gallantry,

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Speaker 1: an outstanding courage above and beyond the call of duty,

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Speaker 1: an action against the enemy. This is Korean War, by

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Speaker 1: the way. He was in charge of an engineer demolition

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Speaker 1: squad attached to an infantry company, which was committed to

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Speaker 1: dislodge the enemy from a vital hill. Realizing that the

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Speaker 1: heavy fighting an intense enemy fire made it impossible to

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Speaker 1: carry out his mission, he voluntarily employed his unit as

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Speaker 1: a rifle squad, and, forging up the steep barren slope,

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Speaker 1: participated in the assault on hostile positions. When an artillery

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Speaker 1: round exploded on the roof of an enemy bunker, he

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Speaker 1: courageously ran forward and leaped into the position, killing one

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Speaker 1: hostile infantryman and taking another prisoner. Later in the action,

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Speaker 1: when friendly forces were pinned down by vicious fire from

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Speaker 1: another enemy bunker, he dashed through the hail of fire,

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Speaker 1: hurled grenades into the nearest aperture, then ran to the

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Speaker 1: doorway emptied his pistol, killing the remainder of the enemy

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Speaker 1: as good as it stood. His brave action neutralized the

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Speaker 1: position and enabled friendly troops to continue their advance to

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Speaker 1: the crest of the hill. When the enemy counterattacked, he

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Speaker 1: constantly exposed himself to the heavy bombardment to direct the

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Speaker 1: fire of his men and call in an effective artillery

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Speaker 1: barrage on hostile forces. Although the company was relieved the

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Speaker 1: following morning, he voluntarily remained in the area, manned a

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Speaker 1: machine gun for several hours, and subsequently joined another assault

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Speaker 1: on enemy emplacements. When last scene, he was operating an

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Speaker 1: automatic rifle with devastating effect until mortally wounded by artillery fire.

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Speaker 1: Corporal Schoonover's heroic leadership during the two days of heavy

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Speaker 1: fighting superb personal bravery and willing self sacrifice inspired his

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Speaker 1: comrades and saved many lives, reflecting lasting glory upon himself

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Speaker 1: and upholding the honored traditions of the military service. That

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Speaker 1: is something special, people. I mean, on top of everything

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Speaker 1: he did initially, trying to picture going through that, the noise,

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Speaker 1: the blood, the violence of killing everything else, and you

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Speaker 1: finally finish and you're getting relieved. Now, I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: having stood watch, having gone on patrol, having done all

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Speaker 1: these things, getting relieved is a wonderful feeling. It's a

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Speaker 1: wonderful feeling in peacetime, in peace time. The School of Infantry.

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Speaker 1: When you finish with boot camp, you go to the

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Speaker 1: School of Infantry. That's where they train you. If you're

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Speaker 1: an infantry marine. I forget how long it is. A

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Speaker 1: month or two they treat you. They train you all

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Speaker 1: the basics of infantry training. You don't really learn that

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Speaker 1: much except for some marksmanship in boot camp that's more

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Speaker 1: about just making you miserable. School of infantries where they're

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Speaker 1: teaching you fire and maneuver your phone grenades, setting off

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Speaker 1: clay mores. You're learning mortar fire. If you're a mortorman,

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Speaker 1: as I was. And part of being on any military establishment,

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01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: whether it be out in the field on a base,

1264
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: is standing watch. And it is so. And this is

1265
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 1: the pre cell phone era. Now cell phones existed, but

1266
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: there were no smartphones. And I'm sure they're not allowed

1267
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: to be on them, and they dang sure it shouldn't

1268
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: be today. There are no books allowed. I'm certain they

1269
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: don't allow phones on these guys. You stand at a

1270
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: door in the middle of a military base for two hours,

1271
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: three hours, four hours. I cannot stress this enough. You

1272
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: do not sit you do not lounge, You don't do

1273
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: not sit back and smoke cigarettes. You don't read a book,

1274
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: you don't browse Facebook on your phone. You stand there.

1275
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:11,520
Speaker 1: It sounds like nothing. There's no way I can appropriately

1276
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: describe it on the radio for how miserably boring and

1277
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: sometimes painful it is. Because sometimes you have to stand rigid,

1278
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: so your back will start seizing up after a while,

1279
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: your feet hurt. But whatever, that feeling during peacetime, that

1280
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: feeling when you are in the middle of the night

1281
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: standing yard and you see your relief walking towards you,

1282
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: is one of the best feelings in the world. I'm

1283
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: talking during peacetime in San Diego, well in the San

1284
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Diego area of California, where even though we had some

1285
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: ice cold nights, for the most part the weather isn't

1286
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: even but it's not like you're sitting out there roasting

1287
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 1: or freezing, although sometimes you are with perfect weather. After

1288
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: a two hour watch, when you're relief, if it's coming,

1289
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, oh gosh, yes, finally I can

1290
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:10,440
Speaker 1: get out of here. Try to wrap your mind around combat,

1291
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: throwing yourself in the midst of violence, misery, finally being

1292
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: relieved the next day and turning and telling everybody, actually,

1293
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm gonna stay. I feel like

1294
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: leading another assault. That was awesome. Let's do that again.

1295
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: I have more Koreans I need to kill. Although they

1296
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: were probably actually Chinese during this engagement. It's wild to me.

1297
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: So yes, Medal of Honor Monday is something we do

1298
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: on the show. Also, remember if you missed any part

1299
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: of the show, we opened up with John Dillinger today

1300
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: a little old school criminal stuff. Chris. If you missed

1301
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: any part of the show today, you can catch the

1302
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: entire thing. It's podcasted. Right after the show, Chris puts

1303
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: up the podcast. It's on iHeart. It's on Google, It's

1304
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: on Spotify, It's on iTunes. Subscribe on iTunes, leave me

1305
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: a five star review, and we have a few new

1306
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: comments Chris talking about how handsome I am. And that

1307
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: is the most important thing you can do for the

1308
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: future of the show is a comment about my handsomeness. Chris. Now,

1309
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: onto my quick getting fired story before we get back

1310
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: to the news of the day, such as it is.

1311
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe you don't remember this. I think I've

1312
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,879
Speaker 1: told this before on the air. I've never been fired

1313
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: except for one time, so I guess you can't really

1314
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: say you've never been fired, which I'm still a little

1315
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: salty about the fact. My dad, of all people, is

1316
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 1: the one who messed up my perfect streak. Now, remember

1317
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: I told you I had a bunch of crappy jobs

1318
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: just a little bit ago, and I'm pretty sure it

1319
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: was all my fault, because I'm sure I had a

1320
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: bad attitude. But I'm talking I washed cars, wash dishes,

1321
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: worked on a golf course, cleaning golf clubs for dudes,

1322
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: trying for tip money, that kind of stuff. My old

1323
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: man was, by this point in time, a superintendent of

1324
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: a construction company. Remember we left Ohio when I was ten,

1325
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: moved out to Montana. We are construction family. It's all

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01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: we ever did. And when your dad's a superintendent superintendents

1327
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: of construction companies, that hear me out her parents. They

1328
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: are always looking for teenage young men who are willing

1329
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: to work hard. Not necessarily a lot of skill is needed.

1330
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Hang on one second, we're going to get to that.

1331
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: Hang on, don't get wiped out financially. If you have

1332
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 1: a home title, I want you to understand this. Your

1333
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: home title is not a piece of paper anymore. It's

1334
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,440
Speaker 1: not one of the ease Your home title exists online.

1335
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: It is digital, and there is an entire new era

1336
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: of criminals out there. They are cyber criminals. They spend

1337
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: every waking moment, you know, while you work and worship

1338
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: and hang out, those guys spend every waking moment online

1339
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: prowling for somebody's information to steal. And there's nothing more

1340
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: valuable to these guys than your home title. If they

1341
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: get it, they will forge your signature on it, take

1342
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: a loan out against it, and they'll be sailing off

1343
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean while you are paying that loan back.

1344
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: Not your home insurance you go to hometitlelock dot com.

1345
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 1: That's home titlelock dot com. Don't forget to use the

1346
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: code Jesse. While you're there, get yourself thirty days for free.

1347
01:36:54,040 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. You're welcome. I

1348
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: had a string of jobs that were either bad or

1349
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: I was bad. I'm a full disclosure. When I tell

1350
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: you I'm a bad person, I mean it. And when

1351
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: I tell you I was an unfocused teenager to put

1352
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: it mildly, I mean it. Now, don't get me wrong.

1353
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I worked hard because well, my parents would murder me

1354
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: if I didn't. I was a good employee. I got

1355
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 1: the job done. But washing dishes garbage, absolute garbage. They

1356
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: stick you in a hole by yourself for eight nine

1357
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: hours a day. Washing dishes I started was so boring.

1358
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't the work I started. I was bored. Along

1359
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 1: comes the old man, thinking I need to get some

1360
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: construction experience. Maybe follow after him, go into that field

1361
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: and the money. Now we're talking back in an age,

1362
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,879
Speaker 1: and I'm I might mess this up briefly or briefly,

1363
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: that's not how do you say that I met shut up, Chris.

1364
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: I went to community college that I might mess this

1365
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 1: up a little, but I'm pretty sure the minimum wage

1366
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: was five twenty five, five fifty back then. I have

1367
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: no earthly idea what it is now. And all these

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01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: jobs i'd been working were minimum wage jobs. Fourteen fifteen,

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01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, old man says, come work for me.

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01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: I need day labors. I'm gonna work you to death.

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01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: But the pay even for the low low end on

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01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: the totem pole guy, which was me, thirteen fourteen, fifteen

1373
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: dollars an hour. That may not sound like a lot

1374
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: to you. Maybe it does, I don't know, but I

1375
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: will tell you at seven teen years old, when most

1376
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 1: of your buddies are making five six bucks an hour

1377
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: and you start making fourteen fifteen sixteen bucks an air,

1378
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: plus time and a half with overtime, which we always worked,

1379
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: I thought I was rich man. I thought I was rich.

1380
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 1: Of course, I wanted a car. Wasn't going to get

1381
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: one bot for me, so I had to save up

1382
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: for a car. I thought I was rich. Start working

1383
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: for the old man, and because he's my old man,

1384
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 1: it was not exactly a privileged position. Let's just say

1385
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: all the guys in charge on the job site knew

1386
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: they had pretty free reign to tell me to do

1387
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: whatever whenever. Yeah, I was the gopher. I was the

1388
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: one who got all the crappy jobs. But that's how

1389
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: it should be when you start out. And as I

1390
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: was saying before we went to break, it is healthy

1391
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 1: for young men to work a construction type job at

1392
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,480
Speaker 1: some point. I have two sons. They're very different individuals.

1393
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if either of them will ever go

1394
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: into construct auction. I think it's a great field to

1395
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: make a bunch of money. You have a dang nice life.

1396
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 1: But I'm going to make them both through construction at

1397
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: some point, some type of construction, whether it be underground,

1398
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:18,520
Speaker 1: water and sewer line like I did building houses, road construction,

1399
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: which sucks. I did a little of that in the summertime.

1400
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: Your feet melt off. It's terrible. But it's good for

1401
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: them to learn the basics of handling construction equipment, good

1402
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: for them to learn a hard day's work group, for

1403
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 1: them to figure out whether they like it or not,

1404
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people are better off working physically in

1405
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: the fresh air. It is undoubtedly a healthier way to live.

1406
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: You think you don't want to. You drive by the

1407
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: construction workers on your way to the office, and it's

1408
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees out and you look and think, man,

1409
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: that guy's life sucks. You want to compare body mass

1410
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:02,719
Speaker 1: index with that guy hard health. I'm just as guilty

1411
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: as you. I don't just as guilty as you. On

1412
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: my way to the studio in the mooding cruising by

1413
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: him out there on the highway, catch myself thinking, man,

1414
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't miss that. That guy's almost undoubtedly healthier than I.

1415
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 1: But I'm not getting sidetracked here. I work all okay,

1416
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: I got a little sidetrack, Chris, shut up. I get

1417
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:30,879
Speaker 1: distracted sometimes start working for the old man working construction.

1418
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 1: It's going fine now. On occasion, the old man would

1419
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: come home a little frustrated if things weren't going well

1420
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: on a particular job that day. Now, I did not

1421
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 1: have one of these violent dad to come home and

1422
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: beat me or something like that. I had a good dad,

1423
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: but would come home, you know, just like you do.

1424
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 1: I will tell you guiltiest charge. If it's a bad

1425
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: day of work. Sometimes I come home. I'm not in

1426
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: the best mood. I'm not just like him. I'm not

1427
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: screaming and yelling at everybody or something like that. Maybe

1428
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: just a little quiet. Why are you so quiet because

1429
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 1: you don't want me to talk. I don't have anything

1430
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: good to say, just gonna just gonna be to myself

1431
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: for a little while, that kind of quiet. Come home

1432
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: one day and it turns out the contex box there was.

1433
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 1: There's a big box on this particular job we were on,

1434
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 1: as there aren't any construction job where you keep all

1435
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: the basic small equipment so it doesn't walk off in

1436
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, as construction equipment tends to do.

1437
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 1: People out there they walk through construction sites to steal

1438
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: and vandalize things in the middle of the night. You

1439
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: can't imagine the amount of money you, the taxpayer, have

1440
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: to spend that contractors have to put in their bid

1441
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: to secure a job site at the end of every day.

1442
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Fencing locks, contex boxes, just people are horrible. I hate thieves,

1443
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: hate them unless you're John Dillinger's that stopped Chris that

1444
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: was at the beginning of this show walk by con xbox.

1445
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: Every day has to be secured, locked away, pad locked,

1446
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 1: the works. Turns out somebody on the job site lost

1447
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: the keys to that con xbox. The job site I

1448
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: was on, you have all the critical equipment in there,

1449
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: so it's not really a small deal. If you don't

1450
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 1: have lockcutters, which your lock cutters are probably in the conexbox,

1451
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 1: you either got to go buy some, you gotta get

1452
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,759
Speaker 1: a locksmith out there. You're losing money, you're losing time.

1453
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: Old man comes home that day con xbox keys are lost.

1454
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: He had a rough day. He accused me of being

1455
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: the one that lost them. Now as he found out,

1456
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a minute. I was absolutely

1457
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: not the one who lost them. In his defense, I

1458
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: could see me losing him. I'm not somebody who lose

1459
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: is a bunch of things. That's I'm not really forgetful

1460
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: in that type of way, but I mean I've lost

1461
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: something on occasion. It's not unreasonable to think the young

1462
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: teenage idiot on the job would be the one who

1463
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: lost the conex box keys. In his defense, he accuses

1464
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 1: me of losing them. I know I didn't lose them.

1465
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 1: It turns into an argument which I never had with

1466
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: my dad. I was too scared of him, but I

1467
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: knew I didn't lose them, So it was kind of

1468
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: that righteous indignation thing. I did not, Yes you did.

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Speaker 1: Boom fires me I cracked back, was so good. I

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01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't want that job anyway, or something like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a real petulant and really embarrassing thing on

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Speaker 1: my part. But he fires me next day. I think

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Speaker 1: it was the Thursday or Friday. I sleep in stob

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Speaker 1: a teenageer with no job. I'll wake up whenever I

1475
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 1: wake up, go try to find a new job. I

1476
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: need a job. Finally, the phone rings in the house.

1477
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: I go over and answer it. It's the old man,

1478
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: And you want to know what he had to say.

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01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: This is my old man's version of in a policy.

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01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Boy? I said, um, home, I

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01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: had to get some breakfast here. Well, why aren't you

1482
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 1: at work? Why am I not at You fired me

1483
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 1: like ten hours ago. We'll get back to work tomorrow,

1484
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 1: and he hangs up the phone. So did I go, Chris? Yes?

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01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: I went. Yes, I went, even if I didn't want

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01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 1: to go. I was terrified. You don't just say no

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Speaker 1: to my dad. Plus, honestly, it was a great job.

1488
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: It really was a great job. It was it could

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01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: be boring at times, like all construction was, but that

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01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: kind of money, man, oh you bet. I went right

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Speaker 1: back the next day. So does that. The question is, Chris,

1492
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Speaker 1: does that count on my tally as having been fired?

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01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 1: I was fired for twenty four hours, but I very

1494
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: much was fired. He said to my face, you're fired.

1495
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter that it wasn't my fault, doesn't matter that

1496
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: it didn't last very long. I think it messes up

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Speaker 1: my perfect record, doesn't it. That sucks. That sucks, all right,

1498
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Speaker 1: hang on, we got a lot more to get to.

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Speaker 1: Just the same. Ebb Sleep his well, they've changed my career.

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Speaker 1: That sounds ridiculous. It shouldn't. They have changed my career,

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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you they can change yours. Why well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sleeping every night, And what a difference that makes.

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Speaker 1: It's not once every two or three nights when I'm

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Speaker 1: so exhausted. I can't function anymore. When you sleep every

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Speaker 1: single night like I am. Sometimes I have to slow

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Speaker 1: myself down. Now. I have so much energy during the

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Speaker 1: day that I just want to do more, and I

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Speaker 1: want to do more, and I want to do more.

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Speaker 1: The days of sitting here at my job staring at

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Speaker 1: the clocks, oh man, I just want to go home

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Speaker 1: and sit down. Those days are gone, and I have

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Speaker 1: now the great Selena Zito. First of all, before we

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Speaker 1: even do anything else with Selena, what's that thing called tempano?

1519
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,480
Speaker 1: Selena producer Chris wants to know if you've ever made tempano.

1520
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. I don't know

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01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: what it is. She doesn't done either, Chris and the

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01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Italian if it's Italian. Sometimes different regions have different names

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01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: for things, so I might know what it is. I

1524
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,839
Speaker 1: just don't know it under that name. What's the difference

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01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:36,799
Speaker 1: between Northern Italy and Southern Italy. Don't Northern Italians consider

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01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: Southern it Tians to be kind of dirty and criminals?

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01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my grandmother you should who was from southern Italy?

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01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: You shall always say yeah. I think we were pretty

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01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: much the ghetto of Italy. Northern part was more educated,

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01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: more provincial, more French slash German, where the Italians were

1531
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: more connected their southern roots of Sicily and Calabria, and

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01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: but you know peasants. I mean, my grandparents were peasants.

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01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: So is this I'm very I should, very curious about

1534
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: this divide when it comes to nations, because everybody acts

1535
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: like being a regional you know, having regional divides is

1536
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 1: just an American thing because we're all caught up in

1537
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: our own little world. But other countries across the world

1538
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 1: go through these things all the time. Where did this begin?

1539
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Is this an ancient Rome thing? Yes, this is very ancient.

1540
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: We are very tribal by nature. And because America is

1541
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: the sort of a mounting pot of people from all

1542
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 1: over the world, our tribes aren't really always defined by

1543
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: our ethnic background, but more about our geography. So that's

1544
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: what that's sort of what makes our tribalism a little

1545
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 1: bit different. Although I will say during the beginning of

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01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: the twentieth century, when we had that great massive migration

1547
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: from Europe, people would set up footholds. Italians lived in

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01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: one neighborhood, Germans lived in one neighborhood. And it's because

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01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 1: not because they didn't like each other, but because they

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01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: wanted to be by what they knew. They wanted to

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01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: be by the traditions that they knew and while a

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01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 1: lot of people sort of, you know, want to break

1553
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: that all up. That was sort of a saying of

1554
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 1: the sixties. It's interesting to me that people want there's

1555
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: a nostalgia and that's why you see things like a

1556
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:39,520
Speaker 1: German festival or a prog festival or an itarily in festival,

1557
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: because those traditions actually meant something important. When did that

1558
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: cease becoming positive or was it was it? Was it

1559
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 1: always a negative thing, Selena, because I mean, you can

1560
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: say it wasn't because they didn't like each other, and

1561
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 1: sometimes that was true, but sometimes they very much did

1562
01:50:57,760 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 1: hate each other. I mean, Jews didn't walk through the

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01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: Italian neighborhoods in New York and vice versa for a

1564
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: long time, and the Irish and the Italians everybody knows

1565
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: about that. Was it always a negative or is it

1566
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 1: just simply human nature? And that's how it's always going

1567
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: to be? Um it is part of our nature and

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01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: it is part of you know, there's this sort of

1569
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: system and people start at the bottom and then they

1570
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 1: punched their way up and we have tried to sort

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01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 1: of neutralize society is trying to neutral neutralize that nature

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01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: within us. But it's you know, it's it's something we

1573
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: have to sort of our raids from our brains. But

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01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: it's not new, and you know, nothing is new. Everyone thinks,

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01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, this has never happened again, and it's

1576
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: kind of even news, and there's an exclamation point, oh

1577
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: my god, this is never has happened again, hash tank awful.

1578
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: And I think have you ever opened in history book?

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01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 1: Because this has been happening for hundreds and thousands of years, Selena.

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01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,719
Speaker 1: We don't have these anymore. I mean to some extent.

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01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 1: Obviously everybody has a or a lot of big cities

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01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: of a Chinatown and stuff like that, but to a

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01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,440
Speaker 1: large extent, we don't have these anymore. But we are divided.

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01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, what is our divide and what are

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01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: the differences between the groups? Well, I think our divide

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01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: right now is as the circles. Back to what I

1587
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: said in the beginning, it is starting, it's not starting.

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01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I've noticed this since about to ninety six, two thousand.

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01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: There is a geographic divide. There is the people that

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01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: are within the more cosmopolitan cities, and then there's people

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01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: that are fifteen minutes outside of it, and so The

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01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,600
Speaker 1: divide is between the cosmopolitans and or the elite, and

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01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: between people that live in more rural or ex urban

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01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: or subourbon. The suburban areas tend to sort of straddle

1595
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: both cultures, and they're tugged and pulled in different ways.

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01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: It sort of depends on where the educational density of

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01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 1: the suburbs. What is the reason people do it? Why

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01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 1: be a city person, Why be a suburb person? Why

1599
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 1: be a rural person? Is there a conscious decision that

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01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,759
Speaker 1: you've noticed as far as trends go. I know everybody

1601
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: has their own story, but I'm trying to figure out

1602
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: where this divide came. Well, I mean the Great one

1603
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 1: hundred it's like the great correction. Right one hundred years ago,

1604
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: people moved out of the of the country. They moved

1605
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: into the cities. They wanted to take advantage of all

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01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: the sort of to see that the easier way of

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01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: life that a city provided as opposed to a more

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01:53:55,840 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: rural life. Even today, you will find that people in

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01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: a rural areas don't have you know, have like a

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01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: two thirds of the ability of people live in a

1611
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 1: city just to have rod brands connection. But it's an

1612
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 1: individual thing. People like a certain way of life. People

1613
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 1: thrive up of living in a city. Other people thrive

1614
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: up a living in the countries. That problem becomes jested

1615
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: when one side looks down their nose at the other

1616
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 1: side and says, look at you, look at you? Why

1617
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: why are you there? Why don't you leave? Why don't

1618
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 1: you move? One really interesting and compelling thing, and I

1619
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: have a story coming up in the Wall Street Journal

1620
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: about this is the amount of people that are fleeing

1621
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: from cities. That's a really great piece coming up. Where

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01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: people are in small towns and in exerbs are selling

1623
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: their house in one to five hours to people from

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01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: the city. They're getting twenty three offers and on average,

1625
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: and the house is tending to sell between twenty to

1626
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 1: thirty thousand more than the person was asking for. People

1627
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: want out of the city. Is just like the opposite

1628
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: of what we've been doing for the past two decades.

1629
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out Salita's piece, by the way,

1630
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: everybody when it comes out in the Wall Street Journal.

1631
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 1: I know I will be reading that myself. Do you

1632
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: think that is healthy for the country to blow up?

1633
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Is not the right word to kind of break this

1634
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 1: trend of flocking to the cities and reverse it. You

1635
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: think this is healthy unhealthy? You just think this is

1636
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: change is normal? Is the change is normal? We are

1637
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: very cyclic. I think we all benefit, to be honest,

1638
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: to have more people that are different than us in

1639
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: our communities. One of my big problems with clerture corporations

1640
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: and larger media institutions is that they have very little

1641
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: representations of people that maybe went to a state school,

1642
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 1: or own a gun or know how to use a gun,

1643
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: or our per life or it's an appeal every Sunday.

1644
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: So I think that cross makes that people is healthy.

1645
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: It helps us respect each other and respect each other's

1646
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 1: a way of life. Selena, You're on the ground. Everybody's

1647
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: views the news. Everyone looks at social media, although you

1648
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: don't anymore, and they see this absolute It seems like

1649
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: society's burning down. If you spend too much time on

1650
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: social media, that's what it seems like. And watching the news.

1651
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: You are out there on the back roads talking to

1652
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: average everyday folks. What are they saying? Well, I encourage

1653
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Speaker 1: people to go to Selena Zia dot com or they

1654
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 1: can check out all my work and sign up for

1655
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Speaker 1: my emails. There are two completely different worlds out there,

1656
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 1: and the one I prefer to understand in terms of

1657
01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 1: telling the story of our country is the one that

1658
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: is based in reality, and that's outside social media. People

1659
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: are completely different than I mean, if you go on Twitter,

1660
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Speaker 1: it's hold on, hold on, Selena, do you I'm sorry

1661
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: to ask you at the last thing, do you think

1662
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 1: you can stay over and finish this thought? We're up

1663
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 1: against the break here? Absolutely all right, hang on just

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Speaker 1: Z I t O in case you can't guess, Yes,

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Speaker 1: she is Italian. All right, Selena, I see a lot

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Speaker 1: of the same things panning out in twenty twenty like

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Speaker 1: they did in twenty sixteen. And a lot of this

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Speaker 1: is I'm going off to Selena zero model of trying

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Speaker 1: to judge an enthusiasm gap. And this is what I mean,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like everyone else, who's going to

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Speaker 1: win the election. I see Trump boat parades and Trump

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Speaker 1: signs and Trump all this, and I don't see anything

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Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. Are you seeing this? You're the only

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Speaker 1: one who called twenty sixteen correctly in your great book,

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Speaker 1: The Great Revolt? What are you seeing? So I drove

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Speaker 1: around fifty of Pennsylvania's sixty seven counties. I have to

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Speaker 1: finish the other seventeen, similar to what I did in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. And you know, if I look and base

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Speaker 1: my reporting on what I see, I would say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Trump's gonna win the state. But then I

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Speaker 1: look at the data, and I look at social media,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know. So I would say,

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Speaker 1: right now, we're at a tie game. And I would

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Speaker 1: say that that is largely because independence and we're reluctant,

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Speaker 1: either Hillary or Trump. Voters haven't really been exposed to

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Speaker 1: what Joe Biden's message is, and we don't know what

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Speaker 1: We still don't know. I hope for everyone's benefit that

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Speaker 1: he lets us know who he is and what he's

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Speaker 1: working on in the convention this week, whatever a version

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Speaker 1: it ends up being. But I will tell you that

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Speaker 1: the energy jobs in places Pennsylvania, and I know this

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Speaker 1: impain am text places like Texas and Oklahoma, on Kansas

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Speaker 1: and Colorado placing someone on the ticket who vowed to

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Speaker 1: ban fracking on day one. Now, now, UM Senator Harris

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Speaker 1: is not running for president, but that influence cannot be

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Speaker 1: discarded and and that is a problem. See, people have

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Speaker 1: this vision energy workers like this Bloue callar die right.

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Speaker 1: But the truth is an energy worker is someone that's

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Speaker 1: in high tech. It is someone who is a chemist,

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Speaker 1: it's someone who's a geologist, it's someone the chemical engineer,

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Speaker 1: an electrical engineer. There's a variety of of of jobs

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Speaker 1: associated with energy uh and and and a variety of

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Speaker 1: voters who are not may not like Trump's comportment, are

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Speaker 1: not going to vote against their either their family's best

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Speaker 1: interest or their community's best interest. And the other thing

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Speaker 1: I think is really important to understand is in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: thirty four Trump voters in which Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: and Iowa said that they did not tell a family

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Speaker 1: member and or a friend or a poster how they

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Speaker 1: were going to vote. And so I think that there

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Speaker 1: is more of a reluctance to reveal their card because

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Speaker 1: of this rampant cancel culture that might impact their family's life,

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Speaker 1: their children's life. There where they are employed or if

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Speaker 1: they on the business. Selena Zito, once again, give them

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Speaker 1: your website. Where can they find your stuff. Oh Selena

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Speaker 1: zitos dot com. Sign up for the emails. They're free,

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Speaker 1: they're fun, and they're not that name. Thank you, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thanks for having me. Goes right into

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Speaker 1: my gladiator theory, Chris. That's what I've always said. You've

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Speaker 1: heard me say it a thousand times, and it's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent true. Gladiator theory is you threw on an

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Speaker 1: ancient Roman violent gladiatorial game pay per view in an

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Speaker 1: American football stadium. You would have endless press coverage about

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Speaker 1: what an outrage it is, how inhumane it was. It

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Speaker 1: a week. You would get to the point where you

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Speaker 1: would not be able to find a single person saying

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Speaker 1: they planned on watching it, and when the event kicked off,

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Speaker 1: it would shatter every pay per view record there ever was,

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Speaker 1: by a mile. This shame society we live in. You're

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Speaker 1: not changing anything. You're just driving the opinions you disagree

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Speaker 1: with underground. You're not changing their opinions. Thirty four percent

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Speaker 1: of Trump voters in swing states did not tell a

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Speaker 1: family member or friend who they were voting for. Thirty

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Speaker 1: four percent, and that was in twenty sixteen. Do the math.

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Speaker 1: Just think for a brief moment on the press coverage

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Speaker 1: we've had of Donald Trump between twenty sixteen and now.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that numbers going up? You bet. It

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Speaker 1: is this campaign by leftists to shame and scold people

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Speaker 1: media and run out of their jobs. There are consequences

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Speaker 1: to everything you do, and one of the consequences for

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Speaker 1: the leftists is this, you can't really pull things accurately

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Speaker 1: anymore if you're a leftist, because you've made being somebody

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Speaker 1: on the right such a shameful thing. The leftists have

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Speaker 1: taken over the education system, They've taken over Hollywood, they've

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Speaker 1: taken over media, they've taken over the corporate world. They've

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Speaker 1: That has only ever ended one way. Do you honestly

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Speaker 1: on this more tomorrow. I am huge on not burning

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Speaker 1: them for honesty goes to this shame society thing. If

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Speaker 1: gives me the truth, it's not going to be that

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Speaker 1: time I ask, I want him to know he's not

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