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Speaker 2: It's the final hour on this Tuesday Dan and the
Speaker 2: Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Greg Anthony, former NBA player, now
Speaker 2: an analyst for NBA TV. We'll look back on what
Speaker 2: happened last night and out of these teams, Golden State
Speaker 2: or the Celtics, who has the best chance to come back?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: You also have the Nuggets are ten point underdogs at
Speaker 2: the thunder Pacers at the Cabs. The Pacers are seven
Speaker 2: and a half point underdogs, but the Nicks beat the
Speaker 2: Celtics up three games to one. Still waiting word on
Speaker 2: an update on Jason Tatum's health, whether it's an ankle
Speaker 2: or an achilles.
Speaker 4: Either way doesn't look.
Speaker 2: Promising for him to be able to play Dallas Mavericks
Speaker 2: win the NBA Lottery and let the conspiracy theorists have
Speaker 2: their day. It's rigged a fresh gasoline on the it's
Speaker 2: rigged fire, generational talent going to a good franchise, and
Speaker 2: maybe it's seen was a little too perfect. But I
Speaker 2: always say, why would the NBA do this? Because since
Speaker 2: twenty ten, the NBA has done a really bad job.
Speaker 2: If they're going to fix their lotteries. The number one
Speaker 2: pick has landed in a true big market city four
Speaker 2: times so since twenty ten. Washington in twenty ten, Philly,
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Atlanta last year. The rest places
Speaker 2: like Minnesota and Cleveland, Orlando, New Orleans not exactly primetime destinations.
Speaker 2: But Zion Williamson, it's supposed to go to New York,
Speaker 2: he ends up in New Orleans. And I know some
Speaker 2: lottery results feel suspicious. You can go to Lebron going
Speaker 2: to Cleveland. You can also go Dereck Rose going to
Speaker 2: his hometown in Chicago. You know, somehow Tim Duncan ends
Speaker 2: up with the San Antonio Spurs instead of the Celtics.
Speaker 2: But then I always say, when't you want him with
Speaker 2: the Celtics not the San Antonio Spurs. But we have
Speaker 2: that feeling it, you know occasionally when there is that
Speaker 2: Marquee talent, when you go hmm, things that make you
Speaker 2: go hmmm, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5: But the thing with the Lebron draft going to the Cavaliers.
Speaker 5: The Kevlaries were awful that season. I think won maybe
Speaker 5: seventeen or eighteen games, so it wasn't like they won
Speaker 5: thirty nine games and got the number one pick.
Speaker 2: No, but he went to his They allowed the NBA
Speaker 2: allowed the Cavaliers to openly tank, and they've acknowledged that
Speaker 2: they were tanking. John Lucas was the head coach. I
Speaker 2: believe back then they tanked to get Lebron. I understand
Speaker 2: if you can do it, then I would do it.
Speaker 2: If I can tank, I know that everybody's like, well,
Speaker 2: what about the integrity of the game. The integrity of
Speaker 2: my franchise is what I care about, and if that's
Speaker 2: the case, then you can't complain about anybody else if
Speaker 2: they happened to tank as well. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there is a great solution that it's going to appease everybody.
Speaker 2: We've come up with different scenarios. I still like that
Speaker 2: the more games you win once you're eliminated from the playoffs,
Speaker 2: maybe that's how.
Speaker 4: We should do the draft lottery.
Speaker 2: Encourage teams to continue to play hard even if they're
Speaker 2: not that good. Or you could have a final four
Speaker 2: bottom four teams that they play for the number one pick.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see and PAULI brought this up. I
Speaker 2: didn't even think of it. If you're the NFL, wouldn't
Speaker 2: you love to have four teams and you're going to
Speaker 2: have one night to see who's going to have the
Speaker 2: number one pick in the NFL draft. I mean, imagine
Speaker 2: the programming. Here's another week that you'll own leading up
Speaker 2: to this. Four teams going to be there.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: The problem is it'll go from four to six to
Speaker 2: eight and then go to ten and twelve. But if
Speaker 2: you did it, I'm surprised the NFL, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: they've thought of that. Stat of the Day brought to
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Speaker 2: Game five, Nuggets Thunder game five as well, and watching
Speaker 2: last night Golden State trying to put up a good fight.
Speaker 2: They didn't steal either one of these games, and they'll
Speaker 2: be pretty much done, I think after the next game.
Speaker 2: Here's Steve Kerr, the Warriors head coach, on playing without
Speaker 2: Steph Curry.
Speaker 6: The series changed with Steph's injury so everybody's shots are
Speaker 6: going to be more difficult. There's just you know, Steph's
Speaker 6: the guy who breaks the defense down for us and
Speaker 6: creates that offensive flow. And I think the end result
Speaker 6: is that shots are more difficult for every single guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see it, you know, Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 2: You're you're hoping you're getting playoff Jimmy, and you didn't.
Speaker 2: I wonder is Jimmy on the team next year? Is
Speaker 2: Draymond Green on the team next year? How is Steph
Speaker 2: Curry's career going to end? This one felt like this
Speaker 2: is the last gasp because they have young talent. I
Speaker 2: just don't think they developed that young talent. Remember James Wiseman,
Speaker 2: they had the number two pick in the draft. I
Speaker 2: don't even know if he's on a roster anymore. And
Speaker 2: they really whiffed on that. That's where, you know, go
Speaker 2: back to the Celtics in the eighties. They had Len
Speaker 2: Bias and Reggie Lewis. They were ready for those guys
Speaker 2: to help an older roster with Bird McHale and Parish,
Speaker 2: Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson. They had done a great
Speaker 2: job well, both of those players die, but they were
Speaker 2: set up to carry that dynasty for another ten years.
Speaker 2: And therefore you could have Bird McHale and Parish an
Speaker 2: older roster, but you had these younger guys coming in.
Speaker 4: That's what you're.
Speaker 2: Trying to get, that mix that allows established stars younger
Speaker 2: players who eventually, you know, take the baton. It didn't
Speaker 2: happen with Golden State. All right, we'll get some phone
Speaker 2: calls in here. Eight seven seven three DP show Joe
Speaker 2: in Utah. Good morning, Joe, it's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Taking my call.
Speaker 8: I'm a one five and a sneaky five foot four,
Speaker 8: so long, long time jazz fan.
Speaker 7: I hate conspiracy theories and getting caught up in this one.
Speaker 7: You know, it would just be pointless. What's done is done.
Speaker 9: I'm just serious and sick.
Speaker 5: About the process.
Speaker 7: Because the Jazz rebuild story, it's painful.
Speaker 10: And now, because the NBA's cute little draft process, a
Speaker 10: hopeful paying fan base gets pushed back into the bottom
Speaker 10: dwelling eighty two game black hole.
Speaker 9: I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 4: I love you guys, love what you do. Thank you,
Speaker 4: Thank you. Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Utah's going all right? Come on, he'd
Speaker 2: love to have Cooper flag here. Putting with Laurie Markenen.
Speaker 2: All right, it's a start. Or if you're Washington, DC,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, we finally are going to get our guy.
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to be laughing at us now, Charlotte, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't need Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4: We're going to get Cooper Flag. We're going to keep
Speaker 4: him in Carolina.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marrin.
Speaker 5: The Wizards were already ready to make like a big
Speaker 5: poster of Cooper flag around all the American flags at
Speaker 5: the mall down in DC. They were already the American flag.
Speaker 4: He is the true American flag. He would have been.
Speaker 2: They could have changed their uniforms like Cooper flag would
Speaker 2: look like the flag pole, and then they would have
Speaker 2: the flag on the uniform the flag pole.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I just checked.
Speaker 11: Cooper Flag won't be nineteen until midway through the season,
Speaker 11: a month into the NB season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be Let's say he is a
Speaker 2: really good player. He's a really good all just really good,
Speaker 2: really good player, really good player. He is going to make.
Speaker 4: A billion dollars being really good, not great, but.
Speaker 2: Let's say he's great. Okay, just for argument's sake, he's great.
Speaker 2: My mind is still in parsing, you know, great.
Speaker 4: Good, really good, pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's on me. But you're nineteen, you
Speaker 2: get your rookie deal done, then what are you going
Speaker 2: to be? Twenty three, twenty two to twenty three, and
Speaker 2: then you get your next deal and that'll be you'll
Speaker 2: be twenty seven, twenty eight, and then you'll get your
Speaker 2: next deal, and then that'll be you'll be around thirty three,
Speaker 2: and then if you get another deal after that, gonna
Speaker 2: make a billion dollars, yeah, pulling.
Speaker 11: Front Office Sports has an article projecting the NBA salary
Speaker 11: cap max contracts, and in this second contract, at age
Speaker 11: twenty three, Cooper Flag could make five years, three hundred
Speaker 11: and ninety eight million dollars. Yeah, I can round up
Speaker 11: to four million.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you get two of those. Now we're knocking on
Speaker 2: the door at eight hundred million. Second one's gonna be bigger.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 2: We're not that far away from somebody getting one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars in a season. Marvin in La, Hi, Marvin,
Speaker 2: thanks for holding what's on your mind?
Speaker 12: What's hey, guys? How you doing?
Speaker 3: Marvin?
Speaker 12: Five to ten two o seven. So I have a
Speaker 12: suggestion that that will helped the integrity of the draft.
Speaker 12: So what I suggest is that the team that makes
Speaker 12: it to the NBA Conference Finals, the team the losing
Speaker 12: team with the best record gets the first pick. The
Speaker 12: other team gets a second pick, and then you go
Speaker 12: into order from the teams in the playoff, and then
Speaker 12: the team that won the championship, maybe we get the
Speaker 12: last pick, and then the losing team will get the
Speaker 12: second to last pick.
Speaker 11: Did you did you follow that he's rewarding the better
Speaker 11: bad teams, which kind of happened last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you want all the other teams in there
Speaker 2: because you want all that publicity in all of those
Speaker 2: cities of the chances of you know, winning the lottery.
Speaker 4: You don't want just three or four.
Speaker 2: I mean tuning in to watch Utah, Washington, DC or Charlotte.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not big numbers there. You got all
Speaker 2: these teams now that everybody has a chance. Who's representing
Speaker 2: this team there and having covered the lottery before hosting
Speaker 2: the lottery before, Man, there's a there's a lot of
Speaker 2: build up, a lot of fun, and that's what they want.
Speaker 2: They want the excitement of that. Zach and Knoxville, Hi, Zach,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind.
Speaker 7: Adp, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 8: Heat and yesterday said he wanted to be an NBA
Speaker 8: insider and who should have just chandled his inner gimme
Speaker 8: Jimmerson and said, I'm hearing because I'm hearing that Copper
Speaker 8: Flag might not have as much of an impression on
Speaker 8: the game as Stephen Curry, but Niko Harrison thinks he's
Speaker 8: a generational talent. I'm just that's just what I'm hearing.
Speaker 8: But to ask a question to you, how much of
Speaker 8: Steph's injury do you think is diminishing what Anthony Edwards
Speaker 8: is doing right now?
Speaker 9: Because he was.
Speaker 8: The he was the star killer knocking off KD, knocking
Speaker 8: off Lebron this year and he's playing really well and
Speaker 8: we don't seem to be talking about him enough.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he did this last year as well.
Speaker 2: I just said that he's got star power. He's on
Speaker 2: the short list. There's probably ten players in the NBA
Speaker 2: that have star power, and there's a difference in your
Speaker 2: your talent or you know what those numbers are, and
Speaker 2: people coming out to see you. Anthony Edwards wonderful player
Speaker 2: to watch. You know, we were talking about this. You
Speaker 2: can be a great actor that doesn't mean you're, you know,
Speaker 2: going to have a big box office number. Now, Paul
Speaker 2: Giamatti's a great actor, you're not putting his There's no
Speaker 2: movie poster on your wall with Paul Giamani whereas Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise not nearly the actor that Paul Giamoni is, but
Speaker 2: when it comes to the box office, nobody's bigger than him.
Speaker 2: You know, Denzel has both, Leonardo DiCaprio has both. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's only a couple of these actors. And that's what
Speaker 2: I was bringing up with Jason Tatum. He's a great player,
Speaker 2: first ballot, Hall of Famer. Hope he comes back in
Speaker 2: the series. I was rooting for Boston to be able
Speaker 2: to go to the finals again. I don't want the
Speaker 2: Celtics to look like the Atlanta Braves of the nineties,
Speaker 2: where you go, how many titles did they win? You know,
Speaker 2: fifteen years from now, we go, how many titles they
Speaker 2: win one? Because we look at the Braves, even though
Speaker 2: they won their division every year, they weren't. We looked
Speaker 2: at them as a disappointment, like they only won one.
Speaker 2: With three Hall of Fame pitchers and a Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame third baseman.
Speaker 4: That's hard to do.
Speaker 2: Hard to win that much, but then hard to not
Speaker 2: win at least a couple more World Series titles. And
Speaker 2: I love to see dynasties and I love to see
Speaker 2: a great team, you know, pay that off. Like I'm
Speaker 2: disappointed with the Cavs because of the injuries we're not
Speaker 2: able to see. And now it's easy to say, well,
Speaker 2: you know, as Chris Russo said last time, or eh,
Speaker 2: they're just built for the regular season. Well, they got
Speaker 2: all these injuries, like Boston has an injury with Jason Tatum,
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell's been banged up, Evan Mobley, Darius Garland. So
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be fair here. It's not pick and
Speaker 2: choose when it comes to these injuries. Golden State without
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, that's a headless horse right there. And they
Speaker 2: don't have a chance or very little chance here. And
Speaker 2: I thought the previous game, not last night, previous one,
Speaker 2: if they stole it, then maybe you could extend this
Speaker 2: to seven games. But that doesn't look like that's going
Speaker 2: to happen. Jimmy in Chicago, Hi, Jimmy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Good morning?
Speaker 13: Then my take on what debunks the NBA Draft conspiracy
Speaker 13: theory ninety three, Sea web going number one to Golden
Speaker 13: State instead of Orlando. Imagine if you know, if he
Speaker 13: team to a check, that'll be one of the best
Speaker 13: front course ever. And also twenty eighteen NBA Draft, the
Speaker 13: Bulls drafted Wendell Carter at seven. They passed on Shay
Speaker 13: Gilders at eleven as well as in twenty twenty this
Speaker 13: is and this is crazy they took Patrick Williams number
Speaker 13: four instead of Tyreese Halliburn at number twelve.
Speaker 7: Out of those two guys, who.
Speaker 3: Would you rather have?
Speaker 13: And also a quick bonus question, does Tom Cruise ever
Speaker 13: win Best Actor for Best Doctor?
Speaker 4: That's Oscar?
Speaker 7: That's a doctor for Oscar.
Speaker 4: No, he doesn't. And Chris Webber went to Orlando.
Speaker 2: They traded him, and then you know they picked up
Speaker 2: Penny Hardaway, so she Webb went was going to Orlando.
Speaker 2: But Pat Williams, the GM is like, you know, I
Speaker 2: want Penny Penny Hardaway and then see where I went
Speaker 2: to Golden Stick. All right, we'll take a break. See
Speaker 2: more phone calls coming up. Eight seven to seven three
Speaker 2: DPSIA still working on our celebrity family feud. Just make
Speaker 2: sure we have the lineup ready. We're going to have
Speaker 2: some practice sessions. I think we should get here really early.
Speaker 2: I think there should be some yoga. I think there's
Speaker 2: I think we should get in a right frame of mind.
Speaker 2: And then Thursday night, my birthday. I think we get
Speaker 2: after it a little bit in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Is that good?
Speaker 2: I think we need to find a restaurant and we celebrate,
Speaker 2: celebrate my birthday.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvel, kind of like the place we went to
Speaker 5: in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: What's the one we went to a New Orleans?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, no, you sure there was a lot going on
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 5: I know the brgs like Marvin, you turn your head
Speaker 5: that fast in my life.
Speaker 2: There there's a whole lot going on with the waitresses
Speaker 2: in that place.
Speaker 4: I think the food was good. I don't really remember.
Speaker 2: I just know Todd did is let me ask fifteen
Speaker 2: questions to this woman as she kept leaning down with
Speaker 2: cleavage spilling out over the table.
Speaker 5: I was very clumsy. I started dropping stuff left and right.
Speaker 5: I'm usually not that clumsy.
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Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 3: Good morning?
Speaker 15: Dan?
Speaker 3: How are you man? Happy birthday? I hear is coming out? Yeah,
Speaker 3: gonna be fifty five. What's going on?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know the game is limited now. I'm just a
Speaker 2: free throw in not not free throw extended anymore. But
Speaker 2: don't let me open. I'll hit a free throw. That's about.
Speaker 3: I love it, all right?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: So I had some things to say about Jason Tatum,
Speaker 2: and uh, we probably had ten minutes fifteen minutes on
Speaker 2: the show we were talking about him, and then you
Speaker 2: put out a tweet kind of asking me, how could
Speaker 2: I come up with this or come to this conclusion
Speaker 2: about Jason Tatum. I feel bad talking about him where
Speaker 2: his season could be over. So I just want to
Speaker 2: paraphrase something here. I think he's a first ballance Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. I think he's a great player. I just
Speaker 2: don't think he's a star. Is the point that I've
Speaker 2: been trying to make, Like Trey Young is a star,
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards a star, Luca is a star, Steph Curry's
Speaker 2: a star. I'm talking about I'm going to go out
Speaker 2: of my way to watch Gilgis is not a star.
Speaker 2: I think he's a great player and will be the MVP.
Speaker 2: You can make a case Joker is not a star
Speaker 2: that you tune in to watch him play. That was
Speaker 2: the point that I've tried to make with Jason Tatum.
Speaker 2: He's a first ballot Hall of Famer and a great,
Speaker 2: great player. I just I think you tune in or
Speaker 2: you would go out of your way to see the Celtics,
Speaker 2: not Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3: That's a fair attestment from your perspective, because I do
Speaker 3: think and ask that you're saying he's not box office.
Speaker 3: No there, and there have been a lot of the
Speaker 3: greatest players you've ever played who weren't box office. So
Speaker 3: I look at Tim Duncan was not box office. Yes,
Speaker 3: fair right, like, so we get that, and I don't
Speaker 3: have an issue with that, and sometimes that's the difficult part,
Speaker 3: often as with sound bites and tidbits, because I didn't
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to kind of listen to your context,
Speaker 3: and so from what I heard, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: Now I would push back a little because I actually
Speaker 3: do think Jason Tatum is a star. I do think
Speaker 3: he's somewhat under appreciate it, and I think part of
Speaker 3: it is just the dynamic of the culture we live
Speaker 3: in is that we've got to push the envelope on
Speaker 3: all these guys, and then we're having this conversation after
Speaker 3: what just transpired last night when he was having a
Speaker 3: monster game, although they were probably still going to lose
Speaker 3: that game based on how things are trending at the end,
Speaker 3: and you just hate to see it happen to him
Speaker 3: because I also think the irony of that is he's
Speaker 3: one of the highest character guys we have in our league.
Speaker 3: He's one of the most accountable guys we have in
Speaker 3: our league, and he's been one of the most successful.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you go look at perspective since he
Speaker 3: came into the league, he's played at more conference finals,
Speaker 3: he's won a championship. This will be his fourth consecutive
Speaker 3: first team all NBA. So I would tend to say
Speaker 3: I think Jokers a star. So that's just in a disagreement.
Speaker 3: That's more semantics, right, that's not necessarily saying they're not
Speaker 3: great players. But I again, as a basketball nut, I
Speaker 3: would pay to see both of them. Right, But then again,
Speaker 3: you know, i'd go pay the C two lottery teams
Speaker 3: play if I had to. I'm just a fan of
Speaker 3: the game, so I could definitely appreciate where you're coming.
Speaker 2: From speaking of the lottery, okay, with it the format.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know what, Dan, this is my philosophy
Speaker 3: on life. No matter what we have in place, what
Speaker 3: the system is, people are gonna complain because just like
Speaker 3: human beings, nobody's perfect. There is no such and we
Speaker 3: struggle with it all the time. So I try to
Speaker 3: focus more on the end result than just the minutia
Speaker 3: of the process, like too many people want to, because
Speaker 3: you can nitpick any process. And I'll give you a
Speaker 3: perfect example. Let's look at the national championship game we
Speaker 3: just had with the final four in basketball, and then
Speaker 3: with the championship in the NCAA for football. I was
Speaker 3: really happy with the end result. I thought the final four,
Speaker 3: you had the four best teams, right, you didn't have
Speaker 3: in the championship game, had no five star kids, you
Speaker 3: had no want and done kids. The ratings were through
Speaker 3: the roof, and we'll instead of us focusing on man,
Speaker 3: we got ultimately what we wanted. We want to get
Speaker 3: caught up in the drugs of the process. There is
Speaker 3: no perfect process. How many remember you're old enough to
Speaker 3: remember when there was thirty two teams in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3: You're old enough. We're old enough to remember when you
Speaker 3: didn't have a playoff for college football. And with each
Speaker 3: process that they changed it, the complaints never diminished. We
Speaker 3: still that's what we do in America. Man, we just
Speaker 3: want to complain. It doesn't matter what the system is,
Speaker 3: how well is functioning. So I look, I have no
Speaker 3: problem with it. It creates excitement. I was against the
Speaker 3: play in when they first introduced it. I think it
Speaker 3: was one of the best things ever happened to our
Speaker 3: league because it does it's helped to eliminate tanking. That's
Speaker 3: one of those words that's taboo in sports. Right. We
Speaker 3: don't talk about tanking that much anymore in the NBA.
Speaker 3: And there was a time, as you know, well, we
Speaker 3: discussed it that nauseam, so I'm fine with it. I mean,
Speaker 3: how about the irony with the Mavericks getting the pick?
Speaker 3: And I sent Nico a text last night congratulating him
Speaker 3: because he's caught a lot of hell. And listen, you
Speaker 3: had to assume you're going to catch a lot of
Speaker 3: hell when you trade a star of the magnitude of
Speaker 3: a Luca Dancis who took you to the finals a
Speaker 3: year prior. So yeah, I'm a fan of it. I
Speaker 3: think you want to try to make the game as
Speaker 3: healthy as possible and not turn your fan base collectively off.
Speaker 3: And this is one way that I think it's been
Speaker 3: a positive.
Speaker 2: Talking to Greg Anthony NBA on TNT an Let's spend
Speaker 2: eleven seasons in the NBA and won the title UNLV
Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4: Let me go back to Luca.
Speaker 2: I just don't know why Nico wouldn't leak it that
Speaker 2: there is the possibility Luca could be available, because it
Speaker 2: feels like you could have gotten a little bit more,
Speaker 2: maybe a lot more, like I would have insisted Austin
Speaker 2: Reeves was in the trade. Like I just I and
Speaker 2: I don't know why Dallas you know wouldn't ask for that,
Speaker 2: but you could have gotten other teams who probably would
Speaker 2: have come up with a lot better trade proposal, don't
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 3: Well, there's two things you got to consider. One, think
Speaker 3: about the backlash he's faced since the trade went down.
Speaker 3: If you leaked that and it gets out, I think
Speaker 3: you create more problems than solutions. That's just the reality,
Speaker 3: and that's my perspective. But I don't think you can
Speaker 3: leak that. And it's easy to Monday morning quarterback for
Speaker 3: all of us to say what they could or could
Speaker 3: not have got. I think what you got to focus
Speaker 3: in on, Okay, what is the objective because a case
Speaker 3: in point, you could have gotten four first or five
Speaker 3: first round picks, but they're objective was to win now.
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving's best basketball. Hopefully he's going to recover and
Speaker 3: he can still play at his heights, but he's not
Speaker 3: going to be better for the moving forward. Right, You've
Speaker 3: got a small window to win now. So he wanted
Speaker 3: to match the timeline when after the trade was made
Speaker 3: of his two best players, and so that's why I
Speaker 3: think he went the route he did well. Everybody can
Speaker 3: second guess it after the fact, but ultimately, listen, if
Speaker 3: they're healthy, that team would have been a better team
Speaker 3: than the Lakers just because of how they were built.
Speaker 3: Help plays a big role in it. It didn't materialize.
Speaker 3: Now you got the first pick, and now they're going
Speaker 3: to have more concerns and questions because I'm a huge
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag fan, But does he fit their timeline?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: You know, can you win like this? This is a
Speaker 3: better situation. But there's some similarity if you go back
Speaker 3: to when the Warriors drafted James Wiseman with the second pick,
Speaker 3: there was a lot of talk about, hey, should we
Speaker 3: move off the pick, and in that case probably would
Speaker 3: have made more sense because I think there was a
Speaker 3: lack of consensus on just how good James Wiseman was.
Speaker 3: You know, that was more of a Kwame Brown scenario
Speaker 3: from the standpoint that you know, you took him based
Speaker 3: on the potential, but he wasn't as certain. He wasn't
Speaker 3: a proven commodity that I think Cooper Flag is, and
Speaker 3: so there's gonna be some concern and or consideration. I
Speaker 3: would assume you're at least gonna listen to see ultimately
Speaker 3: what can transpire, because again, you want to have a
Speaker 3: chance to compete at the highest level now, and getting
Speaker 3: that first pick creates a lot more leverage for Nico
Speaker 3: Harrison and the MAVs than they had going into that littery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got a two year window with
Speaker 2: Kyrie and Ad It feels like in their prime. Hopefully
Speaker 2: both are going to be healthy or ish. Cooper Flag's
Speaker 2: not gonna be nineteen until in the season, and what
Speaker 2: can you expect from him. You got some big guys.
Speaker 2: Christie's good. You know, he's a good addition for them.
Speaker 5: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: You know the timeline there, uh, maybe not syncing up.
Speaker 2: But would you trade Anthony Davis and Cooper Flag for Luca?
Speaker 3: Would I trade Anthony David? That's a tough question. Luca
Speaker 3: for Luca. Well, I think a lot of it is
Speaker 3: relative to who I am, what I have when I
Speaker 3: make that deal.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm joking doubt but like and as this.
Speaker 3: You're saying, that's basically what happened. Yeah, Now, I would
Speaker 3: say that there's a lot of certainty with Luca. Listen,
Speaker 3: you know you're you got to build the right way
Speaker 3: around him. He's got to make a commitment to his body.
Speaker 3: You know, the different Nuggets were in a similar situation
Speaker 3: with with the Joker a few years ago. They went
Speaker 3: to him and said, look, we need you to commit
Speaker 3: to your body. That's how you commit to us. And
Speaker 3: he transformed his body. He's become became in much better shape.
Speaker 3: And I think there was maybe some conversations like that
Speaker 3: with Luca. Maybe it didn't go over well. I guarant
Speaker 3: to you the Lakers just had this conversation with him
Speaker 3: when they had their meeting with JJ and their their
Speaker 3: front office with de Linka, when they had that dinner
Speaker 3: the other night, you know, because I do think physically
Speaker 3: he's got to get in better shape. I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna behoove him too, and it is hard to do,
Speaker 3: but he's got to make that commitment to that organization
Speaker 3: if they want to have a chance to ultimately win
Speaker 3: a championship. There's a reason why Dallas like people can
Speaker 3: poopoor to get mad all at one of Deco. But
Speaker 3: the reality is physically, and we saw it defensively. He
Speaker 3: was a liability in that series and while they had
Speaker 3: other issues with the roster. As great as talent as
Speaker 3: he is, and I'm a huge look of doncis fan.
Speaker 3: I love the guy's skill set, you still need him
Speaker 3: to have to not at least be a liability. You
Speaker 3: don't have to be a plus defender, but you can't
Speaker 3: be a liability defensively, especially with his size. You know,
Speaker 3: it's one thing you got a small guard, but when
Speaker 3: you've got his size and physicality, he can have a
Speaker 3: much more packful place on the defense.
Speaker 2: For the Lakers, who let's say they win their series
Speaker 2: their respective series, who is more dangerous the pacers of
Speaker 2: the Knicks.
Speaker 3: As you get later in the playoffs, your best players
Speaker 3: ability to play against great teams, great defense becomes more relevant.
Speaker 3: So I would say, and let me say to preface
Speaker 3: if by saying this, DA, this is the first time
Speaker 3: since I've been in broadcasting, maybe even since I've been
Speaker 3: associated with the game, where I really felt like the
Speaker 3: final eight teams could all win it. I've never had
Speaker 3: that feel because generally, you know, you get an upset,
Speaker 3: you get a team or two in there, and look,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, they don't really have a chance. But
Speaker 3: I really felt like, all things being equal, everybody healthy,
Speaker 3: everybody playing their best, that they all had a chance.
Speaker 3: Having said that, I love Indiana's team, I think They're
Speaker 3: really hard to defend because what they do is the
Speaker 3: hardest thing to do, which is the in the past.
Speaker 3: They play fast, they put a lot of pressure on you,
Speaker 3: and they're much improved defensive team. They were a top
Speaker 3: four team in the league since the first of the year.
Speaker 3: Having said that, you want a guy who he sawed
Speaker 3: last night with Brunson. You need a guy that can
Speaker 3: score against great defense. When you play a seven game series,
Speaker 3: you can't trick anybody. You're not bringing in new concepts.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna recreate how you play. We know what
Speaker 3: you do, you know what we do. And as you
Speaker 3: get later in the series, you gotta have guys that
Speaker 3: can go beat their man. They can win matchups and
Speaker 3: compromise your defense. And Jalen Brunson has consistently in the
Speaker 3: postseason has shown you he can do that. And they
Speaker 3: built that team to play the Celtics. They've got great
Speaker 3: positional side on the wings. Those guys are great two
Speaker 3: way players with anonob and Bridges, and while they don't
Speaker 3: have the depths, it hasn't been an issue for them
Speaker 3: as of yet, and so I would if those two
Speaker 3: teams end up meeting and right now the odds are
Speaker 3: looking that way, that both up three to one. I
Speaker 3: would give a slight edge to the Knicks because of that. Now,
Speaker 3: having said that, this Pacers team, they are really good.
Speaker 3: I thought they were the most underrated team in the postseason.
Speaker 3: They've proven that to be the case. They've been dominant
Speaker 3: in this series. Now, missus injuries, this, that, and the other,
Speaker 3: but they have dominated a team that have been dominant
Speaker 3: over the entire regular season. So you got to tip
Speaker 3: your hat to Rick Carlisle and his group.
Speaker 4: How do you think NBC is going to use Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan with their NBA coverage?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, I was pumped to hear that, right. You know,
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, he became Michael Jordan at NBC. Right.
Speaker 3: They both really benefited from that. That's where the game
Speaker 3: had as greate as growth to the likes of which
Speaker 3: we've never seen it. I've been really impressed with what
Speaker 3: they've done thus far. If you've seen the promo they
Speaker 3: put out not too long ago where they incorporated all
Speaker 3: of their broadcast talent and people involved with the network
Speaker 3: of peacause, I thought that was brilliant. It'll be I
Speaker 3: gotta believe that he's gonna They're gonna have to be
Speaker 3: able to go back to who he was as a player.
Speaker 3: I hope they do that. I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 3: be in the studio show. I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 3: be doing games, but I would like to hear his
Speaker 3: perspective and how he looks at today's crop of stars
Speaker 3: and just opposed that to what he dealt with. So
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how they're gonna use him, but I'll
Speaker 3: be tuning in, you know, obviously, as we all are,
Speaker 3: because of what he's meant to our game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it's awesome that after all these years, he's at
Speaker 3: least going to let us the viewing public, have a
Speaker 3: little insight into his mindset and who he is. I
Speaker 3: think the last Dance helped with that, and I think
Speaker 3: this could be a further further in some of that.
Speaker 4: Has Reggie Miller ever admitted that he pushed off.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, multiple times he's admitted it, but yeah he did.
Speaker 3: But we we listen, we gave that gave away and
Speaker 3: and that was that game cost us. I think we
Speaker 3: lost that series. I mean, we beat them for the
Speaker 3: most part when we played against but yeah, that that one,
Speaker 3: that was haunting. I'm just glad I got to work
Speaker 3: the Bucks Pacers game when the Pacers did it to
Speaker 3: the Bucks. You know that that that kind of allowed
Speaker 3: me to purge some demons a little bit now because
Speaker 3: that was an amazing game, and I can It's funny
Speaker 3: in the moment, you know, you're such there's such shock
Speaker 3: when you actually go through it. You have no real
Speaker 3: perspective historically, right uh until well after So now on
Speaker 3: the outside looking in watching that materialize, Man, that is
Speaker 3: just it's still hard to imagine something like that could happen. Uh,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately happened to me. But but uh, Nick, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm glad that we now have something else to reference
Speaker 3: when it comes to historical comebacks. That's for sure.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, all right, Thank you, Dak, Greg
Speaker 2: Anthony part of the broadcast team Cavs Pacers Game five
Speaker 2: tonight that'll be on TNT, True TV and Max Take
Speaker 2: a break last call for phone calls what we learn
Speaker 2: once in store tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow, this day in sports history, all of that
Speaker 2: forthcoming each seven to seven, three DP Show Brent in Georgia.
Speaker 4: Hi Brent, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3: Hey? dB?
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Amen?
Speaker 7: Listen? I wanted to bring something to your attension, little
Speaker 7: food for thought. I feel like I've discovered a huge
Speaker 7: oversight in your strategy for celebrity family few that could
Speaker 7: be particularly detrimental to your team. Okay, so I know
Speaker 7: you guys were trying to figure out the lineup and
Speaker 7: elephant in the room is trying to hide Fritzy as
Speaker 7: best as possible, and that has been brought up that
Speaker 7: he needed to be on the end so that he
Speaker 7: wouldn't have to face the podium. But the caveat to
Speaker 7: that is, if by chance, you guys were tied at
Speaker 7: the very end, then Fritzy's going to go to a
Speaker 7: sudden death situation where he's the one and done. He
Speaker 7: has one answer, and it's all your whole game is
Speaker 7: relying on him. Do you want to put all your
Speaker 7: eggs in that one basket at that very moment? How
Speaker 7: would you manage my lineup. I think I would go
Speaker 7: you first, because you're you're the all Star. I think
Speaker 7: I'm going to go Marvin next, then Fritzy, then Scene,
Speaker 7: and then Pauli at the end.
Speaker 4: All right, well, thank you Brent.
Speaker 2: Once again, still shuffling the lineup. I got to look
Speaker 2: at the analytics here. Not quite sure you know what
Speaker 2: I'm going to do, but I could be comfortable with that.
Speaker 4: I could be.
Speaker 2: Maggie and Minneapolis him. Maggie, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 16: Well, what's going on?
Speaker 8: DP?
Speaker 16: Yeah, I just had to take on, you know, the
Speaker 16: Michael Jordan's bit about his role with NBC. I know
Speaker 16: Mad Dog kind of mentioned how he you know, they
Speaker 16: may have just signed him and figured it out later.
Speaker 16: I would just say, man, mj is so crafted with
Speaker 16: what he wants to do with his image and his
Speaker 16: public words, and so I would say he had to
Speaker 16: sign that deal knowing what his role was going to be,
Speaker 16: and I'm excited to find out and also love love aunt.
Speaker 16: He's a star and everybody in Minnesota loves them and
Speaker 16: go Wolf.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Maggie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what Jordan's role is, and I
Speaker 2: did reach out to people who may have made that
Speaker 2: decision and didn't get an answer. But I respect the
Speaker 2: time frame that you're announcing. He's part of it. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're kind of working out the details
Speaker 2: of that the fine fine print. Jason in Atlanta, Hi Jason,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3: Hey Jas?
Speaker 4: Thank you Jays. This day in sports history, Paul I.
Speaker 5: Got a few for you.
Speaker 11: Mickey Mantle in nineteen fifty five hit four consecutive home
Speaker 11: runs in a game. Reggie Jackson nineteen eighty three became
Speaker 11: the first MLB player to strike out two thousand times
Speaker 11: in a career. Wayne Gretzky nineteen eighty nine. He hosted
Speaker 11: Center in It Live and at Yankee Stadium in nineteen
Speaker 11: ninety one, Fans sang Madonna song Like a Virgin to
Speaker 11: Jose Canseco random.
Speaker 2: He was dating Geting Madge at the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah he was, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Madge took down a couple of Yankees Alex Rodriguez,
Speaker 2: oh and Josie Conseko.
Speaker 11: Jose Canseco I found more on this story. He was
Speaker 11: caught by a tablet photographer walking out of her apartment
Speaker 11: at two am.
Speaker 4: Who hasn't been caught doing them. I mean Ama.
Speaker 2: Central Park West, if memory serves me correctly, in the sixties,
Speaker 2: not nineteen sixties. All right, saying some of us don't
Speaker 2: kiss and tell. Let's see Curtis in Illinois. Hi, Curtis,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Well in DP, Thanks for squeezing me in.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just wanted to chime in on yesterday you
Speaker 9: were talking to how you'd take Cousins over Carr's career.
Speaker 9: I would disagree with that. My main reason behind it
Speaker 9: is Kirk Cousins has to would be in the luckiest
Speaker 9: quarterback in terms of the coaches Heath had. I feel
Speaker 9: like they squeezed every ounce of talent from being coached
Speaker 9: by the Shanahans to having McVeigh and then Matt Lafleur
Speaker 9: as his quarterback coach, and then even on the Minnesota
Speaker 9: Zimmer was a defensive guy, had Stefanski and then O'Connell
Speaker 9: with the kubi X.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, i've it's it's not going to come
Speaker 2: down to a decision anytime soon for anybody. But I
Speaker 2: don't know if any other show is doing the Derek
Speaker 2: Carr Kirk Cousins, who would you rather have? But we've
Speaker 2: kind of corner cornered the market on that strong though.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I like when a topic bleeds over
Speaker 2: the next day or the day after that, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I didn't get in on Monday.
Speaker 4: I just want to bring this up and.
Speaker 2: Be like, all right, it's still still thinking on this one, though.
Speaker 2: I getchy still bothers me. I guess some Braves fans
Speaker 2: are upset because I said, you you you don't if
Speaker 2: you're Boston the Celtics, you don't want to come away
Speaker 2: from this era with one title, because I would love
Speaker 2: to see them get another title, just so it is
Speaker 2: a dynasty of sorts, because they've certainly given the appearance
Speaker 2: of that being the best team in the NBA for
Speaker 2: a little while.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: The Rabes won one title, they were unbelievable in the nineties.
Speaker 2: But three Hall of Famers in your pitching staff, a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer at third base, and one World Series title.
Speaker 2: That'd be a disappointment, yes, Mark.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Marlins and the Braves had the same amount
Speaker 5: of titles in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, Yeah, but the Marlins won two titles.
Speaker 5: Oh oh three? You're right, yes, but I've just made
Speaker 5: during that entire run of the nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Marlin's like, Okay, I guess we'll won one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Marlins philosophy was every five years, you'd go, man,
Speaker 2: Marlin's pretty good, and then they would win, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden we wouldn't hear from them for
Speaker 2: the next four years.
Speaker 5: Yes, Mark, they have two World Series titles, and I'm
Speaker 5: almost certain they have no Division titles.
Speaker 4: Jeff, Jeff Conine and mister Marlin. Yeah, yes, Paul.
Speaker 11: The Florida Marlins now Miami Marlins have made the playoffs
Speaker 11: four times in thirty three years. Two of those times
Speaker 11: they won the World Series.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that.
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Speaker 2: go around the room. What we learn on the program.
Speaker 2: Back left, Fritzie.
Speaker 17: Chris Medo Russa doesn't think there's a conspiracy with the
Speaker 17: NBA lottery result, but it's a very bad look and
Speaker 17: raises eyebrows.
Speaker 2: Very bad look out of you, uh, Satan, Sure it's
Speaker 2: their daddy, A bad look out of that. Not really,
Speaker 2: he is a little bit of a conspiracy guy. He's
Speaker 2: dipping his toes in a little bit, Marvin, how about you.
Speaker 5: Greg Anthony says Reggie Miller admitted to pushing him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you watched that video, Reg knocks him down. Paulie,
Speaker 2: what did.
Speaker 4: You learn the Brays caught as straight today?
Speaker 2: Todd?
Speaker 4: What did I learn on today's program?
Speaker 17: Greg Anthony loves how the Pacers play fast and improve
Speaker 17: their d but he still gives us flight as to
Speaker 17: Brunson and the Knicks if they meet in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2: Finals, Oh, our play sure to serve you. Hope you
Speaker 2: have a great day, everybody. Thanks for allowing us into
Speaker 2: your live for Fritzie Seaton, Marv Pauli hears truly, We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow.